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= December 23 =

== Sanctium Band ==

hello,

can you please add brackets around the word 'band' in the title.
This is my bands wiki and i cant see how to edit the name title  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/61.8.3.160|61.8.3.160]] ([[User talk:61.8.3.160|talk]]) 01:17, 23 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:{{la|Sanctium band}}
:It's up for AFD.  <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 02:12, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

::And has now been speedily deleted per [[WP:CSD#A7|A7 of the criteria]].&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 15:42, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== many views one day ==

Why does an article usually have about 25-30 reads per day, then one day have 1,900, and then go back to normal, e.g. [http://stats.grok.se/en/201112/Philidor_position]? [[User:Bubba73|Bubba73]] <sup>[[User talk:Bubba73|You talkin' to me?]]</sup> 03:20, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:Such things can sometimes be tracked to the topic being relevant to a current news event, or the article getting a link from a high-traffic website. I don't know the answer in your example. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 03:31, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:: Followup: do those stats count the number of different users (IP addresses), or does it count each time the same user reads it?  [[User:Bubba73|Bubba73]] <sup>[[User talk:Bubba73|You talkin' to me?]]</sup> 03:36, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:::It counts each time the same user loads the page. See http://stats.grok.se/about and http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/ [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 03:54, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:::: Then someone could hold down the F5 key and it would register a large number of hits.  [[User:Bubba73|Bubba73]] <sup>[[User talk:Bubba73|You talkin' to me?]]</sup>

PS - I've seen bumps caused by something in the news.  They would spike for 2 or 3 days and then trail off for the next few days.  [[User:Bubba73|Bubba73]] <sup>[[User talk:Bubba73|You talkin' to me?]]</sup> 04:00, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:That specific spike might be because, on 11 December, an e-book entitled "The Chess Combination from Philidor to Karpov" by [[Raymond Keene]] was apparently made available on some websites. It might not be a legal copy, so I won't link to it.
:<small>Or, yes, someone held down F5. But why bother? We don't get paid by hit-count :-)</small> <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 15:25, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:: That is most likely the cause of this spike.  But I get paid twice as much if the number of hits goes over 1,000 per day.  [[User:Bubba73|Bubba73]] <sup>[[User talk:Bubba73|You talkin' to me?]]</sup> 18:00, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== Why does Wikipedia overly promote the use of "ANYONE" can edit, create on their site when in actuality that is not true? ==

The Administration at Wiki seems extremely biased possibly to save space on their servers. Giving resources and well known facts do not come into play because of 1 admins actions (1 perons opinion) which to me a viewer of Wikipedia definitely destroys the integrity of the page as a whole. 
Will Wikipedia please stop advertising the use of "ANYONE" or "EVERYONE" instead replace it with something like - Wikipedia decisions are based singularly on the decision of 1 person (admin) whom might be considerably biased to any information submitted?
Besides not "anyone" can understand even after reading the instructions every day until they die how to edit nor post any article on wiki.
There is no ease of use either.
It is poorly advertised the wrong way, the donations put forward to the site have all gone to the wrong places.
Will Wikipedia please change it's ways before people take notice and something bigger and better comes along?  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Botcrawl|Botcrawl]] ([[User talk:Botcrawl|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Botcrawl|contribs]]) 05:42, 23 December 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Although administrators are the ones who perform the actual deletions, it is the community who decides what is appropriate for inclusion on Wikipedia. The article of yours that was deleted did not meet the [[WP:ORG|notability guidelines for companies]], and had no [[WP:RS|reliable]], [[WP:3PARTY|third-party]] sources. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 05:46, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== Create a definition  ==

I think I may have coined a phrase and want to define and note it on Wikipedia.  Can I create a new "pop culture term?"  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:JDStarek|JDStarek]] ([[User talk:JDStarek|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/JDStarek|contribs]]) 06:36, 23 December 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:No, I'm sorry. A topic can only have a Wikipedia article once people have written about it in [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] such as newspaper articles, respected news websites, and such like. You can read more about this at [[WP:NOTNEO]]. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 06:44, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
::You could try submitting it over at [[Urban Dictionary]] - the website that is, not the wiki entry.  [[User:A man alone| a_man_alone]] ([[User talk:A man alone|talk]]) 14:35, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== File:Wiki-cumshot.png ==

bellow File:Wiki-cumshot.png, there was a message saying: "To prevent the use of this image for vandalism, it can only be used on pages for which it is specifically allowed.
To use this image legitimately, such as in an article about human anatomy or physiology, contact an administrator either directly or by posting a request on MediaWiki talk:Restricted-use image list." why can a vandal not simply download the image to there hard drive, then re-upload it? or get another image of the same act elsewhere? thanks for your time. [[User:Jake1993811|Jake1993811]] ([[User talk:Jake1993811|talk]]) 06:54, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:A vandal could do something like that with an [[WP:AUTOCONFIRM|autoconfirmed]] account (or right away at Commons) but most vandals don't spend that effort. If a file is identical to an existing byte for byte then upload may be rejected but I'm not sure about the details. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 13:31, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== Help with policy concerning custom signature? ==

I wasn't sure whether I should post this here or on [[Wikipedia talk:Signatures]]. I am considering making my displayed signature "Batfish" when my username is "MsBatfish". I couldn't find any relevant policy on whether or not this was acceptable. [[Wikipedia:Signatures]] says not to use a signature to "impersonate" another user and not to forge another user's signature. While I don't think this change would be considered "impersonation", I'm not sure how others understand the issue. There is no active user named "Batfish", and no user page or user talk page with that name, but there was an editor with that name who made a total of 2 edits 6 years ago. I only found this out by manually checking [[Special:Contributions/Batfish]]. I don't think anyone would confuse me with that person, but I wanted to err on the side of caution and check whether there is any rule or guideline about this before doing anything. Would using this custom signature be ok, provided it meets all the requirements of a custom signature and I perhaps put some kind of disclaimer on my user page? Thank you. -[[User:MsBatfish|MsBatfish]] ([[User talk:MsBatfish|talk]]) 09:15, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:It sounds OK to me when the name is linked to the right account. Others do it. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 13:34, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:It's not against any strict rule. However, best-practice is to include your user-name, in some form - simply because, it can cause confusion - for example, users might see your sig, and type in (at some point) [[User talk:Batfish]] and leave you messages there. Or similar. So I think it'd be better to live with something like <[[User:MsBatfish|{{colour|#556B2F|<small>Ms</small>}}]] [[User talk:MsBatfish|{{colour|darkgreen|Batfish}}]]>.
:But, as I say - it's not against any strict rule. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:39, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:::Thanks PrimeHunter and Chzz. I'm still not sure what I'll do. Plenty of people certainly have custom signatures with names that are different from their usernames, sometimes vastly different, but I agree it can be a bit confusing, especially to new users who may not realize this. I just would prefer to get rid of the "Ms". -[[User:MsBatfish|MsBatfish]] ([[User talk:MsBatfish|talk]]) 08:25, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

==Users essays on Civility==
I have an essay at [[User:Buster7/Incivility]] which I believe should be included on the list at [[:Category:Users essays on civility]]. I believe it is an administrator-generated list. Is there some protocal to be included? [[User: Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em>''']]<small>[[User talk:Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em>''']]</small> 12:47, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:The name is [[:Category:User essays on civility]] and it's not administrator-generated. Just add <code><nowiki>[[Category:User essays on civility]]</nowiki></code> to the essay. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 13:21, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
::{{done}} Thanks![[User: Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em>''']]<small>[[User talk:Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em>''']]</small> 13:42, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== Is there an easy way to move my wikipedia files to wikimedia? ==

The system for moving files seems quite complicated. Is there an easy way to move the pictures to wikimedia? [[User:Torqueing|Torqueing]] ([[User talk:Torqueing|talk]]) 14:11, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:Easy way is, ask someone else to do it for you :-) You could ask right here. Or ask me, if you like, on [[User talk:Chzz]].
:Otherwise, it's as shown in [[Wikipedia:Moving files to the Commons]] - and yes, it's not ''that'' simple, but not terribly hard once you've done it a couple times.
:A third option is to just put {{tn|Copy to Wikimedia Commons}} - and eventually, someone will deal with it; unfortunately, that's a long "eventually" - there are currently 270,252 images waiting for such a transfer. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:24, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:Agreed, once done a few times, the moving process is fairly simple.  The first few images I saw under your contributions though cannot be moved due to them being screenshots.  <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:25, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

::If someone could move the two pictures of the MBE (the medal) and the pyometra that would be very useful. Thankyou [[User:Torqueing|Torqueing]] ([[User talk:Torqueing|talk]]) 20:14, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

== Leaked magazine scans ==

[[User:Ryulong|Ryulong]] is insisting that because a magazine (the February 2012 issue of [[Televi-Kun]]) isn't due to be released for another four days, scans from it cannot be used as a source yet, but can when it's released. But surely if it's in the public domain, it can be cited? The article in question is [[Tokumei Sentai Gōbasutāzu]], and the [http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv31/alternate-zero/wwwdotuporg2409770.jpg scan] contains a logo which confirms that Gōbasutāzu should be romanized as Go-Busters. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 14:38, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
:I imagine that that scan is a copyright infringement, so no, we should not be linking to it. Also, the point of any reference is so that the ''reader'' can - if they want - verify the fact. If it has not been published yet, then readers can't verify it is true. I'm sure this is not the case here, but please understand - it's very easy for anyone to make a "fake" cover. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:42, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
:You also seem to badly misunderstand the meaning of the term [[:public domain]]. --[[User:Orangemike|<font color="darkorange">Orange Mike</font>]] &#x007C; [[User talk:Orangemike|<font color="orange">Talk</font>]] 15:36, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
::It isn't a cover, it's an interior spread. I'm not asking to upload the page to Wikipedia, that wouldn't fall under fair use, although it does contain other photos as well as the logo (said photos haven't appeared anywhere else yet either, so faking it is impossible). I only wanted to use it as a reference. The reader would be able to verify the information in that scan as long as they can read Japanese, and the magazine is out in three days (Dec 27) - I think this scan most likely came from a subscriber who got their copy early (and subscribers getting magazines before their shop release date isn't uncommon). [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 00:24, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
:::We don't reference sources in that way. Just use the {{tl|Cite journal}} template.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 05:10, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
:To the OP: See [[WP:NODEADLINE]].  Wait the four days for the magazine to hit the newstands.  There's no iminent rush to get it out NOW.  If trying to beat the rush causes conflict, wait a few days and any reason for the conflict evaporates.  Everyone wins!  --[[User:Jayron32|<font style="color:#000099">Jayron</font>]]'''''[[User talk:Jayron32|<font style="color:#009900">32</font>]]''''' 05:19, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

== Edit the biography of MK ==
  
hello, How can I correct the spelling of MK Nachman Shay's (- instead of "Nahman Shai")name in English Wikipedia.
secondly, although he completed his PhD it's written that he still studying for his PhD which is not up to date [[User:Ronenl10|Ronenl10]] ([[User talk:Ronenl10|talk]]) 15:31, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:The article is currently at [[Nahman Shai]] which appears to be the spelling used by the sources.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 15:40, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== Article Feedback request ==

How can I obtain feedback on my new article creation?  It is [[Charles L. Dufour]].  The [[request for feedback]] page appears to be inactive. Thank you.  [[User:Nolabob|Nolabob]] ([[User talk:Nolabob|talk]]) 15:49, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:Orangemike|<font color="darkorange">Orange Mike</font>]] &#x007C; [[User talk:Orangemike|<font color="orange">Talk</font>]] 18:01, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== Reddit appeals to Jimmy Wales.  ==

A plea from one like minded organisation to another. Can this please be shown to Mr. Wales?
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nntxp/godaddys_response_to_the_boycott_go_daddy_has/
http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/nnv9l/wikipediaorg_is_with_godaddy_jimmy_if_youre/  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/101.160.170.246|101.160.170.246]] ([[User talk:101.160.170.246|talk]]) 16:08, 23 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:This is being discussed [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Proposal:_Message_to_the_Foundation_r.e._GoDaddy|here]]. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 17:39, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== new article "Robert Fanning" ==

Hi,
I've added an article on Robert Fanning, but I need help getting the links to show up as hyperlinked. 

Thanks.

Denise Fanning (poet's wife)  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Seedthievery|Seedthievery]] ([[User talk:Seedthievery|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Seedthievery|contribs]]) 16:19, 23 December 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:See [[Help:Link]] and [[Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners]]. If you still have problems then come back with a more specific question. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:53, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== Facebook as reference link ==

Can we submit facebook page as a reference link/webpage ?  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Za zealot|Za zealot]] ([[User talk:Za zealot|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Za zealot|contribs]]) 17:07, 23 December 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Generally not. A Facebook page, like a blog entry, is rarely a [[:WP:RS|reliable source]]. --[[User:Orangemike|<font color="darkorange">Orange Mike</font>]] &#x007C; [[User talk:Orangemike|<font color="orange">Talk</font>]] 17:57, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== For X, see Y ==

Hi, how can I create the following layout using the proper templates?

:''For A, see B. For C see D.''

[[Special:Contributions/86.179.5.83|86.179.5.83]] ([[User talk:86.179.5.83|talk]]) 18:06, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
:We call those "hatnotes". See [[Wikipedia:Hatnote]]. --[[User:Orangemike|<font color="darkorange">Orange Mike</font>]] &#x007C; [[User talk:Orangemike|<font color="orange">Talk</font>]] 18:16, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks, I looked at that page before, but could not see any way of doing what I want. However, looking again I have now found that you can do it with "About", which previously I ignored, assuming it must be some variant of "for" that I needed. [[Special:Contributions/86.179.5.83|86.179.5.83]] ([[User talk:86.179.5.83|talk]]) 18:38, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
:::If all else fails, there is always the generic {{tl|Hatnote}}.
:::<code><nowiki>{{Hatnote|For A, see B. For C see D.}}</nowiki></code> produces:
{{Hatnote|For A, see B. For C see D.}}
:::[[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:43, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
::::{{tl|For}} works a little better.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 05:07, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

== Global account status "in migration" ==

I'm trying to unify my account, and there is an inactive user (no edits since account creation in 2008) on the Hebrew Wikipedia with the same username as mine. I've left a couple of posts on the Hebrew Wikipedia (one on a noticeboard and one on a steward's talk page) requesting usurpation of the Hebrew Miniapolis account. On my preferences page, my global-account status is "in migration". What does this mean? Thanks and all the best, [[User:Miniapolis|Miniapolis]] ([[User_talk:Miniapolis|talk]]) 18:33, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
:Hello. I think that they are waiting a confirmation [http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%99_%D7%A9%D7%9D_%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%A9#Please_rename_Miniapolis_to_Miniapolis]. Cordially, -- [[User:Quentinv57|Quentinv57]] ([[User talk:Quentinv57|talk]]) 22:13, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
::Status now "all in order". Thanks very much! All the best, [[User:Miniapolis|Miniapolis]] ([[User_talk:Miniapolis|talk]]) 02:16, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

== Invention InfoBox ==
<pre>
{{Infobox invention
| name              = No. 6,469 patent for<br /> "Buoying Vessels Over Shoals"
| color             = 
| bgcolor           = 
| Alternative names = 
| Creator(s)        = Abraham Lincoln
| Date invented     = May 22, 1849
| Place of origin   = Illinois
| Region or state   = United States of America
| other_topics      = 
}}
</pre>
[[File:Patent Model of Abraham Lincoln's Invention.jpg|thumb|100px|A. Lincoln's Patent Model ]]
I am having trouble with an invention Infobox for the article [[Abraham Lincoln's patent]]. How can I get the additional information to show up and this picture to show up in the InfoBox? Is this the correct InfoBox for a Patent?--[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 18:59, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
:There is no scope for an image in the code of the current [[Template:Infobox invention]]. And I'm sorry, I do not know of any appropriate infobox; articles like [[telephone]] or [[television]] just have an image, no infobox. Even Featured Articles [[Manchester Small-Scale Experimental Machine]], [[Atomic line filter]] and [[Autostereogram]] do.
:It's something I've looked for before - an infobox for a plain "thing". I think we could do with one; perhaps it's worth asking at [[Wikipedia:Requested templates]].
:Unless anyone else knows better? <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 20:05, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
::I've edited {{tp|Infobox invention}} to support an image. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 08:59, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

== Can Wiki change domains (from the pro-SOPA GoDaddy to something else) ==

Please see the request on reddit as well.

http://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/nny4z/wikipediaorg_is_with_godaddy_jimmy_if_youre/  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.231.42.218|64.231.42.218]] ([[User talk:64.231.42.218|talk]]) 19:07, 23 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Anything is possible, but I do not think the help desk is the best place to discuss it; I suggest you join the ongoing discussions on [[Wikipedia_talk:SOPA initiative]]. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 20:06, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== Sandbox deletion effect ==

I wrote an article in my sandbox and them "moved" the article so all could see it.  If I now delete my sandbox will the article now be deleted ?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.210.63.130|173.210.63.130]] ([[User talk:173.210.63.130|talk]]) 19:49, 23 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:When you move a page, it leaves behind a [[WP:REDIRECT|redirect]] on the old page - that is, a single line saying <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[pagename]]</nowiki>. That means when you go to the sandbox, it'll automatically take you to the article - but it'll say, just under the title, "(Redirected from {{colour|blue|User:Whoever/Whatever}})" - and you can click on ''that'' to see the sandbox, and can edit it, remove the redirect, change it, etc.
:This would be much easier to explain if I knew your user-name, but you are not logged in, so I don't know which page you are asking about. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 19:55, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
::To answer the question, deleting the sandbox will not result in the article being deleted too. [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 20:07, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
:::Plus, you can't delete your sandbox, although you can ask for it to be deleted.--<font style="font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light ">[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="color:#002868;padding:0 4px">SPhilbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;">(Talk)</span>]]</font> 20:35, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== making many changes to a published article ==

HI,  I created in my sandbox an article and "published" it for all to see.  I now want to make large scale changes to the article but it will take me a few weeks to do all the updates. How can I do this without the "published" article changing until I'm finished with all my edits?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.210.63.130|173.210.63.130]] ([[User talk:173.210.63.130|talk]]) 20:01, 23 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:If you [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|create a user account]], you can make as many [[WP:USERSPACEDRAFT|user-space drafts]] as you like, and nobody will bother with them much. Otherwise... if anyone does edit a page, you could always see the old versions in the [[WP:HISTORY|history]] and if you take note of one of those links, it will show the specific version of the page - for example, this helpdesk page is constantly changing, but at the time I wrote this, at 20:07, it looked like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&oldid=467388669 - and that is a permanent link.
:The exceptions to the above are, if a page is against policies and guidelines - such as, a copyright violation - in which case, it might be deleted. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 20:10, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== References not showing up or in order ==

I thought it to be the case that references automatically ordered themselves chronologically and that they are also automatically added at the bottom. On the second point I may well be mistaken. The page I am working on is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jason     -  I have added a sentence to the Personal Life section about him being a qualified helicopter pilot and also provided a citation, however the citation is showing up as Number 1 and so are some others, it is also not listed at the bottom of the page.  [[User:Thedaveformula|Thedaveformula]] ([[User talk:Thedaveformula|talk]]) 20:12, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
:You used a named ref <nowiki><ref name=DMail2074040></nowiki> so the url you added was ignored. I assume you do want the Telegraph ref, not the Daily Mail ref.--<font style="font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light ">[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="color:#002868;padding:0 4px">SPhilbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;">(Talk)</span>]]</font> 20:18, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
::I fixed it. Refs do not appear chronologically, unless, by that you mean the order they appear in the article.--<font style="font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light ">[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="color:#002868;padding:0 4px">SPhilbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;">(Talk)</span>]]</font> 20:22, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
:::I further improved it using a [[Wikipedia:Citation templates]] I personally find it very helpful to use the optional citation gadget. To install, go to "My preferences", select the rightmost tab "Gadgets", the check the box next to refTools (in the Editing gadgets section). Once installed, it will add a new button "Cite" to your editing toolbar. Click on it to add a citation. Makes it much easier.--<font style="font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light ">[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="color:#002868;padding:0 4px">SPhilbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;">(Talk)</span>]]</font> 20:28, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

::: Ok thank you very much for your help. [[User:Thedaveformula|Thedaveformula]] ([[User talk:Thedaveformula|talk]]) 21:52, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== Making many changes  to a published article...........related question ==

HI,  I am a registered user and the article was created in my "sandbox" in my user space and it was "published" for all to see.  If I edit one word in my sandb ox and save the edit its instantly published for all to see.  How do I make many edits over time and update the "published" article only when I want to show the world the new, updated version?        thanks for your help and patience with a newbe  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jina2|Jina2]] ([[User talk:Jina2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jina2|contribs]]) 20:21, 23 December 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:To save is to publish. You can preview each change as you make it; but if you've saved the edit, you've by definition already published it. If you think an article still needed work, you should have left it in your sandbox, where articles are polished before being published. --[[User:Orangemike|<font color="darkorange">Orange Mike</font>]] &#x007C; [[User talk:Orangemike|<font color="orange">Talk</font>]] 20:25, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
:::If you don't think it is yet ready, you can move it back to your userspace. If you don't know how, just ask and I'll do it for you.--<font style="font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light ">[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="color:#002868;padding:0 4px">SPhilbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;">(Talk)</span>]]</font> 20:31, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

::::The move to article space created a redirect from your sandbox to the article. I have removed the redirect so you can now edit [[User:Jina2/sandbox]] again. You can see how I did it at [[Help:Redirect#How it appears to the user]]. If you want to work on a sandbox version then you have to copy-paste the article to your sandbox. Note that anybody might edit the live article while you work on an old copy in your sandbox. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:35, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:::::Maybe it's just me but [[A Symposium of Six Perspectives on the Archaic Religious Period]] seems more to me like a thesis paper rather than an encyclopedic article.  <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:52, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:I'd agree regarding the title of this article. It is not how an article should be titled because no one in the world is ever going to, in the course of their research into this subject, type into Wikipedia: 'A Symposium of Six Perspectives on the Archaic Religious Period' - regardless of how well the article is written. I would therefore suggest that the article be incorporated into the page [[Evolutionary origin of religions]]. [[User:Thedaveformula|Thedaveformula]] ([[User talk:Thedaveformula|talk]]) 00:18, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

:: Or failing that, renaming it 'Archaic Religion'. [[User:Thedaveformula|Thedaveformula]] ([[User talk:Thedaveformula|talk]]) 00:21, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

: Sorry if this is a bit heretical, but I have created over 100 articles and have NEVER used my sandbox. It seems a waste of broadband. I just work on the articles in word until they reach Start(undeletable) class then paste them up. Does that make me a bad person? [[User:Tigerboy1966|Tigerboy1966]] ([[User talk:Tigerboy1966|talk]]) 01:01, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

== Finding why an image has been deleted ==

There used to be a picture "Fobos-grunt_processing.jpg" at the article [[Fobos-Grunt]]. It has now been deleted. How can I find out why and by whom? (I assume it was probably because of copyright infringement but I would like to check.) The link that used to be in place now just takes me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fobos-grunt_processing.jpg which has zero information. Shouldn't there be a log or something? [[Special:Contributions/86.179.5.83|86.179.5.83]] ([[User talk:86.179.5.83|talk]]) 20:29, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
:If you go to [[:File:Fobos-grunt processing.jpg]] and try to upload it, you [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=File:Fobos-grunt_processing.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1 see this log entry] - it was deleted on 20 December 2011 by {{user|Fastily}} under [[WP:CSD#F7]] "Violates [[WP:NFCC#1|non-free content criterion #1]]".
:Another way to find that is, look in [[Special:Log]] and, in the target, put "File:Fobos-grunt processing.jpg" to see [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=File%3AFobos-grunt+processing.jpg&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1&hide_review_log=1 this]. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 20:40, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== Table Alignment ==

This is a very silly question I know but any idea why the tables on my [[User:Mgumn|user page]] align centre in internet explorer but not in chrome? [[User:mgumn|Mike]] 20:33, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
:Which version of IE are you using? [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 00:27, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
::7.0.5730. I would like the tables to align centre in browsers other than IE. Do they align center for you? [[User:mgumn|Mike]] 03:22, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
:::Sorted now thank you [[User:mgumn|Mike]] 23:39, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

== several sandboxes ==

Hi,  I'm a registered user and have one sandbox in my userspace.  I'd like to work on several different articles at the same time.  Is it possible to have several sandboxes?  I tried creating another under edit using [[/newsandboxname]] but all it did was replace my existing sandbox.......thanks  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.210.63.130|173.210.63.130]] ([[User talk:173.210.63.130|talk]]) 20:45, 23 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I'm sorry, but I can't find your sandbox [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=173.210.63.130&namespace=2].  If you [[Special:UserLogin|log in]], you should be able to start a new sandbox at [[Special:MyPage/Sandbox 2]], for example.  --'''''<font color="red">[[User:NYKevin|N]]</font><font color="green">[[User talk:NYKevin|Y]]</font><font color="blue">[[Special:Contributions/NYKevin|Kevin]]</font>''''' @935, i.e. 21:26, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
::You can call user subpages whatever you like - it is common for people to work on an article under the title User:&lt;username>/&lt;eventual article name>. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 21:38, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

== wikipedia / wikileaks ==

is there any affiliation between wikileaks and wikipedia?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/12.49.215.253|12.49.215.253]] ([[User talk:12.49.215.253|talk]]) 21:31, 23 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:No, see [[WP:NOTLEAKS]]--[[User:Hallows AG|Hallows AG]] ([[User talk:Hallows AG|talk]]) 21:35, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

== outstanding money ==

I recently paid £28.00 to ask a legal question, but then decided i did not have to, so never used it. I recently got an email to remind me that i still have £28.00 in my account to spend on asking a question, but i dont need gto ask anything. I would therefore, really appreciate it if u could refund my money back into my account again, as i have no use for using it on a question. Could you please let me know if you can do this for me, as i would really appreciate it. Thanks jillian.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/109.158.111.73|109.158.111.73]] ([[User talk:109.158.111.73|talk]]) 23:04, 23 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at [[Wikipedia:About|Wikipedia]], the free online encyclopedia that [[Wikipedia:Introduction|anyone can edit]], and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a [[Wikipedia:Reference desk|reference desk]], divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.<!-- Template:Astray -->--[[User:Hallows AG|Hallows AG]] ([[User talk:Hallows AG|talk]]) 23:08, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

:Note however that [[Wikipedia:Legal disclaimer|Wikipedia does not give legal advice]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 23:08, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
::And Wikipedia does not answer questions for money. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 21:39, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

== What is the story of Chanukha? ==

What is the story of Chanukha?  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.189.117.151|76.189.117.151]] ([[User talk:76.189.117.151|talk]]) 23:07, 23 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:See [[Chanukha]].  <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:11, 23 December 2011 (UTC)