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==Re:How do I post edited Articles.==
I'm not exactly sure, but you have contributed to a few articles [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Nadirali as seen here]. Your edits are indeed being [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=YT-1300_Corellian_Transport&diff=prev&oldid=59142738 saved]. I'm guessing that perhaps instead of clicking the "save page" button below, you might have clicked the "show preview" button? Is there any special article on which your edits were not saved? Did you check the article's history (by clicking the history button on top)? Perhaps someone must have [[Help:reverting|reverted]] your edits. Please let me know. --[[User:Deepujoseph| thunderboltz]]<sup>a.k.a.D<font color="green">[[User:Deepujoseph/Esperanza|e]]</font>epu<font color="white">&nbsp;</font>Joseph&nbsp;|<font color="green">[[user_talk:Deepujoseph|TALK]]</font></sup>


== Welcome==
Hello, {{PAGENAME}}, and [[Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers|welcome]] to Wikipedia! I am [[User:Deepujoseph|Deepu Joseph]]. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

*[[Wikipedia:Five pillars|The five pillars of Wikipedia]]
* If you need [[Wikipedia:Help|help]], post a question at the [[Wikipedia:Help desk|Help Desk]] or ask me on [[User talk:Deepujoseph|my talk page]].
*[[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|Sign your posts on talk pages]] using four tildes (&#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;).
*Provide an [[Wikipedia:Edit summary|Edit summary]]
*Take a look at [[Wikipedia:Consensus|Consensus of standards]]. It is always wise to read the talk page of an existing article before making major changes on it. Even then, I typically ask if anyone minds that I make a change. Very often they do! ;-)
*Create a [[Wikipedia:User page|User page]]
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Again, welcome! And if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask - Just '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Deepujoseph&action=edit&section=new click here]''' to leave me a message. <br>[[User:Deepujoseph| thunderboltz]]<sup>a.k.a.D<font color="green">[[User:Deepujoseph/Esperanza|e]]</font>epu<font color="white">_</font>Joseph |<font color="green">[[user_talk:Deepujoseph|TALK]]</font></sup> </div>


== 1 week block ==

<div style="clear: both"></div>[[Image:Octagon-warning.svg|left|30px]]'''You have been {{#if:1 week||temporarily}} [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing Wikipedia {{#if:1 week|for a period of 1 week}} as a result of your {{#if:{{{2|}}}|disruptive edits to [[:{{{2}}}]]|disruptive edits}}.''' You are free to make constructive edits after the block has expired, but please note that [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]] (including page blanking or addition of [[Wikipedia:Patent nonsense|random text]]), [[Wikipedia:Spam|spam]], deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|personal attacks]]; and repeated, blatant violations of our [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view]] policy will not be tolerated.<!-- Template:Test5 --> 

While I would have been only too happy to discuss the issue with you, I saw your comments on [[user talk:Nobleeagle]] and find that you have made gross violations of [[WP:NPA]] and [[WP:CIVIL]] by making accusations and insulting remarks about other editors. Please use this block to cool off and come back a more civil editor. [[User:Rama's Arrow|<font color="orange">'''Rama's arrow'''</font>]] 20:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

== unblock request ==


Ramma's Arrow is a biased admin who has unjustly blocked 3 users and engaged in several edit wars.I wish to be unblocked so i can provide my evidence against Ramma's Arrow and his associates.User Fowler&fowler is already posting good evidence against this disruptive "administrator" and I wish to help provide him with more accuarate evidence.[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali]] 03:26, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
:You can paste the evidence right here while you are waiting for the unblock appeal to be heard. Also, you are blocked directly, please use {{tl|unblock}}. '''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]'''  ([[User talk:Blnguyen|bananabucket]]) 03:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Okay.This may take a while,but I'm now in the process of slowly posting the evidence here.[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali]] 03:44, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pakistan#Coverage_expansion_-_Media.2C_Education_and_Islamic_fundamentalism deliberately linking Pakistan to religious fanaticism,offending other users]][[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Unre4L#Blocking_admin.27s_response_.28from_user_talk:Fowler.26fowler.29 telling unjustly blocked user wikipedia is not a battle ground.]]while speaking of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fowler%26fowler#Re:blocks a need to retaliate]] on Folwer&fowler's talkpage.[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rama%27s_Arrow#Re:_Jinnah_and_Iqbal warned by close associate that unjustified block may be dangerous]].
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Muhammad_Iqbal&action=history edit wars with another user he unjustly blocked and continues to edit war,now against Fowler&fowler.]][[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:ANI#Anti-Hindu_remarks Fowler&fowler testifies]].[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fowler%26fowler#re:Blocks other admins disagree with length of blocks]].[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rama%27s_Arrow#Your_1-week_block_of_Users_Szhaider.2C_Nadirali.2C_and_Unre4L other admins agree the length is too long.]]RA's associates [[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:P%C4%81%E1%B9%87ini&diff=98810481&oldid=98803566 compare us to Nazis]]

:Note that you are not blocked by Rama's Arrow, you are blocked by Shanel.  --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 04:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I was REBLOCKED by Shanel.I was using my unblocked IP to provide Fowler&fowler with evidence which he is currently posting on [[WP:ANI]].I was then re-blocked for "evading my block".I am still not yet finished posting my evidence here.I request other admins do not post yet for the next 15-20 minitues.It only creates an edit conflict and I loss precious evidence.[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali]] 04:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Indus_Valley_Civilization&action=history offensive edit summeries by associate of RA.]]Note:the "Pakistani textbooks" are used by terrorists in Pakistan to recruit followers and are extremely offensive when the Indian users use the "Pakistani texbook" remarks.
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fowler%26fowler#let.27s_make_it_clear RA now accuses Fowler&fowler(or anyone who disagrees)of being "incivil":His same "reason" for blocking me and 2 other users.]]
Please check the top of this discussion page where Fowler&fowler left a message about Ramma's arrow.[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali]] 04:27, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
His denial of an Indian cabal can easily be proved wrong by checking the history dozens of articles such as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=P%C4%81%E1%B9%87ini&action=history this one.]]More offesnsive [[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:History_of_Pakistan&diff=93232236&oldid=93127419 "textbook comments"]].
Please ask [[User:Islescape]] for more evidence which he has on himself.[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali]] 04:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Rama's Arrow is also an offensive username.A Muslim or Christian equivelent would be "Muhammed's sword" or "Jesus's dagger".
The so-called "gross accusations" I made were of an Indian cabal that controls all(or most) Pakistani articles through '''tag-team''' edit wars and filling it with anti-Pakistan sentiments such as "Pakistani nationalists can celebrate the deaths...".They once wrote an(now deleted) article on Christians in Pakistan which claimed that "Pakistan blames the Jews and the Christians".They also plan on writing similar articles as seen [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bakasuprman#Hi here]].I call these people "associates" of RA because they seem to share the same dislike for Pakistan.Not only that,but their userpages also show they're all closely linked.The history of articles also show a clear sign of '''tag team''' edit wars.This disruptive "administrator" blocked me for pointing to a cabal of Indian tag-teams.I was blocked for this.However,[[user:Islescape]],administrator [[User:Fowler&fowler]] can testify to this as well as the evidence from the history of the articles.RA also proposed that religious fundamentalism  be placed in the Pakistani article as seen in the link I provided above.It clearly shows his motives and intentions.[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali]] 04:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

RA is now accusing Fowler&fowler of "POV pushing" the same thing he falsly accussed another user [[user:Unre4L]] and I of by giving him a similar week block.Infact any user who disagrees wih him or his associates is automatically being "incivil" or "POV pushing".[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali]] 05:29, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

== reason for unblock ==

I needed to post evidence to Fowler&fowler which I did from '''my own unblocked IP adress'''.Please discuss the blocks(including those of Unre4L and Szhaider) carefully with other admins as well as users Islescape and  Fowler&fowler(who is also now facing a similar threat).Please look [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:ANI#Anti-Hindu_remarks here]][[User:Nadirali|Nadirali]] 17:26, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fowler%26fowler"
I clearly provided evidence that RA's block is unjustified.
Can this please atleast be discussed properly among admins?Admins can't just block users for personal interest. I have not committed any violation.What was a violation is this unjust block.I also did not edit from another IP.My own IP adress was left unblocked.[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali]] 00:15, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

== Disputes ==

I have left a message on [[User talk:Siddiqui]] which I urge you to read. '''[[User:Nobleeagle|<font color="darkblue">Noble</font><font color="darkorange">eagle</font>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Nobleeagle|<font color="darkred" size="0.2" face="Arial Narrow"> <nowiki>[TALK]</nowiki></font>]][[Special:Contributions/Nobleeagle|<font color="darkred" size="0.2" face="Arial Narrow">&nbsp;<nowiki>[C]</nowiki></font>]]</sup> 06:16, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

== Your lucky day ==

I'm not going to edit anything controversial for the next nine months and "push my POV" since I'll be on a semi-Wikibreak. Just to let you know, there were users (anti-Urdu) who wanted to remove the Urdu script off Bollywood articles and on Indian cities, when I supported keeping Urdu because I believe Hindi and Urdu are the same langauge just written differently. <b><font color="teal">[[User:DaGizza|Gizza]]</font></b>''<sup><font color="teal">[[User_talk:DaGizza|Chat]]</font></sup>'' <sup><b><font color="teal">[[Special:Contributions/DaGizza|&#169;]]</font></b></sup> Regards 01:18, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

== thanks for your thanks ==

Thanks for your thanks, but someone else awarded you the barnstar, not me. [[User:Commodore Sloat|csloat]] 19:26, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

== Hi! ==

<small>I have also posted this message to Unre4L</small>

Regarding the [[Pakhub]] article, have you read [[WP:WEB]]? May you please give an argument based on [[WP:WEB]] on why it should stay. Please respond on my talk page and only answer these two questions. I am willing to discuss this since you are obviously disappointed that the forum you created can't have an article on Wikipedia. If I still disagree with you after the discussion, you can request the page to be re-created to another administrator who has no connections with India or Pakistan whatsoever. This is the list [[Wikipedia:List of administrators]]. I am sorry if I have insulted you and hope that we can set all of the disagreements we had in the past. Thank you and have a good day. <b><font color="teal">[[User:DaGizza|Gizza]]</font></b>''<sup><font color="teal">[[User_talk:DaGizza|Chat]]</font></sup>'' <sup><b><font color="teal">[[Special:Contributions/DaGizza|&#169;]]</font></b></sup> 08:40, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

:Okay, I'm going to refrain from India vs Pakistan thing for a while until neutral intervention arrives (American, British, European etc preferably non-Hindu/Muslim). I know that you guys won't listen to me so it'll be a waste of time. May I suggest bring [[User:Pepsidrinka]] into the debate since he is a Pakistani administrator on the English Wikipedia. He was the one along with [[User:Nichalp]] (who's Indian btw) who helped make Pakistan a Feature Article. Pepsidrinka has very pleasant relations with the Indian Wikipedians here so I think it will be worthwhile. Best wishes and I hope neutral admins find a remedy soon for everyone's sake. <b><font color="teal">[[User:DaGizza|Gizza]]</font></b>''<sup><font color="teal">[[User_talk:DaGizza|Chat]]</font></sup>'' <sup><b><font color="teal">[[Special:Contributions/DaGizza|&#169;]]</font></b></sup> 10:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

== Your posting to the Village Pump (proposals) page ==

Hi Nadirali,

Thanks for your posting about Star Trek and Star Wars to the Village Pump (porposals) page. Unfortunately the page you posted to is not an appropriate place for discussing the content of these articles. Please bring up your concerns on the articles' talk pages (i.e. [[Talk:Star Wars]] and [[Talk:Star Trek]]) instead. Also, when you add a message to any talk page, please sign your comment by putting <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> (that's four [[tilde]] characters) at the end; this automatically gets expanded to your signature and a timestamp. Thanks, [[User:Gwernol|Gwernol]] 15:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

==Regarding Balochistan Conflict==
You may have your opinion about the issue but thats what POV is. Wikipedia is not about representing POV of Balochistan people or Pakistani Govt. We need a NPOV approach for the article and what that user has done, isn't valid according to wikipedia rules. He/she may discuss changes, try to convert an article to NPOV but can't replace it with a POV essay. Wikipedia is not about essays.[[User:Voldemortuet|voldemortuet]] 22:08, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

'''Agreed that wikipedia should stay neutral on the issue.However the fact is that dozens have been killed at the hands of the army and that's what needs to be put on wikipedia''''[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali]] 01:15, 4 December 2006

== where did you lived during visit in hyderabad ==

Dear Nadir ,there are many sindhi communities in orkut ,u can join those but i do not know about other communities if you know any let me know for sure I will join it along with you.

Hope every thing is fine with you. Where did you lived in Hyderabad during your visit?

[[User:Khalidkhoso|Khalidkhoso]] 04:34, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Nadir ,i do not like MQM any shape, now these days there having flags in Larkana city  can you believe this? .You know why? because they have new Slogan "we are sindhi" but who does nothing for sindh.on other side they still planning to broke her to into parts making new state "Jinnah Pora".
Yeah it is offending for sure


[[User:Khalidkhoso|Khalidkhoso]] 04:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Cha Hal Ahin(how are you,sindhi).


Yeah Hyderabad Cantonment is beautiful, telling you one more thing .it is expensive area too because it is having Sadder Market inside it, if you visit sadder market ,i believe you will change idea that Hyderabad cantonment is beautiful.Yeah residence area of Army officer is beautiful, it is not in Hyderabad it is every where. I mean take example of Karachi, which is Most expensive area of Karachi?  "DHA" "Defense Housing Society" it is under control of army. they are also allot bangles in sadder Karachi.
Do you speak Sindhi?

Sadain Gud

[[User:Khalidkhoso|Khalidkhoso]] 05:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


Nadir why not create Wiki_Sindhi(sort of community working for sindhi pages and related topics) ,how this sounds like :P

[[User:Khalidkhoso|Khalidkhoso]] 05:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree with that sindhi are weak But why? . we should look for reasons it is beacuse they are un-educated,simple in nature,[[Sufi]] in religion,resources occupied by others,fighting with each other,killing in name of honour,lake of information .read history even Moen-jo-daro ppls did not made any weapon in there time how they make now? what i am trying to say is they are Much sufi in nature.They are divide as hindu sindhi,muslim sindhi(then Barouch(different tribes fighting for power [[Jatoi]],[[Magsi]],[[Bugti]],[[Khosa]],[[Laghari]],[[Mastoi]],[[Mirani]],etc inside them stil are they divided as take expample of [[Magsi]] [[Shambhani]],[[Bhutani]],[[Sakhani]]) etc...,jamot [[Tunio]],[[Sommro]],[[Sayyal]],[[Bhatti]],[[Thebo]],[[Dahar]]). How you expect to be in power with this? and read my profile i am Balouch oriented Sindhi we called as Barouch (Balouch but Sindhi)
[[User:Khalidkhoso|Khalidkhoso]] 06:04, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Nadir i have post my request on Sindhi_Wikipedian ,if they would not change that Flag i will do it ,have You seen Muhajir Wikipedian. it is same like sindhi_wikipedian no change between both tags,
I will put Ajruk On that flag that is Identity of Sindhi's

[[User:Khalidkhoso|Khalidkhoso]] 08:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello Bro ,i removed Flag from sindhi wikipedian and made some editing.i will make picture here of my ajruk and upload it.but these days it is little bit hard to do.i will do it after Eid,till then Happy Eid "Eid Mubark" ,Happy New Year.
[[User:Khalidkhoso|Khalidkhoso]] 04:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali نادرالی]]
:Perhaps admins who have no involvement with India or Pakistan should be brought in to review cases and actually issue blocks in the future.  That way, there will be no conflict of interest.  [[User:The Behnam|The Behnam]] 17:18, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou now there are 5 people who agree on the same thing about RA.I was going to remove the '''suspected''' sockpuppet tag just as RA blocked me.He tried to hide his bias by simply pretending to agree with Rumps block.



Can the block atleast be shortened?1 week seems like a long time,even for edit warring.Add to that Rumpeltskin223 edit wars with everyone on articles that don't fit his POV,so it wasnt just another editwar.Either way,I find 1 week quite lengthy.[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali نادرالی]]

:I believe Rumpel's been blocked too. '''[[User:Nobleeagle|<font color="darkblue">Noble</font><font color="darkorange">eagle</font>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Nobleeagle|<font color="darkred" size="0.2" face="Arial Narrow"> <nowiki>[TALK]</nowiki></font>]][[Special:Contributions/Nobleeagle|<font color="darkred" size="0.2" face="Arial Narrow">&nbsp;<nowiki>[C]</nowiki></font>]]</sup> 21:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I only provided a good reason that a week block is a bit long that's all.All I had requested was that the block be shortened and for a good reason.This is ridiculous.[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali نادرالی]]

== unblock request ==
I simply provided evidence of Rama's Arrow's dishonesty as an administrator(who has now blocked 4 users critsizing his dishonesty).If I had not provided evidence against RA,I wouldn't have been blocked.RA has also engaged in tag-team edit wars against Szhaider on the [[Iqbal]] article.Did he get blocked for it at all?If you look carefully I took the effort to resolve my dispute with Rumps who is without a doubt a sock/meatpuppet of Hkelkar for which I also provided evidence for.If the block must stay,it should atleast be shortened from 1 week.I find that a bit too long for someone who provides evidence against a dishonest admin.

== AGF ==

Please [[WP:AGF]] and see [[WP:RS]]. raise all the issues you want. Your record speaks for itself. [[User:Rumpelstiltskin223|Rumpelstiltskin223]] 21:17, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::I would advise you not to make threats. [[User:Rumpelstiltskin223|Rumpelstiltskin223]] 21:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)


:I suggest to you strongly to take Fowler's advice and keep calm - please do not make accusations against other editors or engage in revert wars. You must treat your return as a fresh starting point. [[User:Rama's Arrow|<font color="green">'''Rama's arrow'''</font>]] 21:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

== Reply ==

Thanks a lot for your message. You are free to edit any page, however, discussing major edits is always a good idea. As for your talk page, it is better to archive talk page contents. See [[WP:ARCHIVE]] to learn how to do that. After archiving talk page contents, you can remove old messages from your talk page. 

Welcome back, and I hope you will have a productive time in Wikipedia. Thanks. --[[User:Ragib|Ragib]] 01:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

== Re ==

Regarding [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ragib&diff=prev&oldid=91716897 this] message, I'm a bit confused. I haven't posted any message to you about this. If you were referring to [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kumarnator&diff=prev&oldid=91502868 this message], note that it wasn't on your talk page, and wasn't directed to you. Thanks. --[[User:Ragib|Ragib]] 05:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

:I'm too busy to go through the messages between Kumarnator and you, but a great way of stopping someone from messaging you is to *not respond to it*. Of course, if it is related to editing in an article, responding to it is recommended, but if you feel someone is sending you a message without any purpose, the best way is to refrain from responding to it. Thanks. --[[User:Ragib|Ragib]] 04:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

==Moving a conversation to this page==
Please stop editing your reply on my talk archive page.  Please don't post on my user talk archive page, as it doesn't become available for other users to read.

I don't know why you felt the need to come in and say anything to me about your ''warning'' against the ''corrupting forces'' on Wikipedia, or about how South Asians and Arabs are conflated in many Western minds, and portrayed negatively.  I really don't have any concern about your issue with ''corruption'' on Wikipedia, I just mentioned that your words and tone seem like you are on a crusade.  I referred to your rhetoric as ''nationalistic'' because you have said things about Indians and Bangladeshi editors' nationalities being an impedance to their seeing the ''truth'', or words to that effect.  I don't have a problem distinguishing South Asian culture or language from Arab culture or language, and I don't have any bigotry toward South Asians (two of my very good friends are from India - one is a Gujarati Shi'ite Muslim, one is a Bengali Hindu).

Before you correct me on my statements above, let me acknowledge that I probably got it all wrong on both counts.  Please grant me the right to be wrong, just this once.

If you want to continue conversing with me, please let's do it on your talk page.  I probably won't respond to any more talk about ''corruption'' or ''nationalism'' though, because I don't find them very interesting topics, and I definitely won't respond to anything you post on my talk pages.  Thanks, [[User:Erielhonan|Erielhonan]] 01:45, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I wont respond to this till maybe tommorrow.Got a history assignment to finish.Due Wednesday.[[User:74.98.241.189|74.98.241.189]] 02:22, 4 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

== you seem to be confused.... ==

It seems that you are basing your "facts" on only geographic techinicalities.....For example the Assyrians came form the Arab Penisiula, but they are not Arab.....Just because some of the Indus may have sretched over pakistani land( which is rightfully indian) it doesnt mean that the indus  is "home" to pakistan, it just means that the INDUS encompassed some land that many years later, in 1947, to be accurate shifted away and created some new country( pakistan). Secondally, you have mentioned that I used the word "pussy", to atleast 3 users. As usual, this was a Dr spin from you to try and make me look like some evil, stupid maniac!!! Though the people can see through you!!!Get a life, you're so pathetic!!!!  [[User:Kumarnator|Kumarnator]] 02:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

'''wow kumernator, I didn't know "the people" have [[X-ray vision]] like Superman-LOL'''.[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali نادرالی]]

== Re: Dont forget to add Saudi Arabia's flag ==

Thank you for contacting. I have been to Saudi Arabia. You are absolutely right about ‎their behavior with Pakistanis. Personally, I think all Islamic scripts should be removed ‎from all the flags like Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan. And OIC could ‎pressurize them. When someone desecrates these flags, Islamic scripts on them are also ‎desecrated.‎ [[User:Szhaider|Szhaider]] 16:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

== 48 hours block ==

You have been blocked for violating [[WP:3RR]] and [[WP:EW]] on [[Talk:Sindhi literature]]. [[User:Rama's Arrow|<font color="green">'''Rama's arrow'''</font>]] 15:04, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

{{unblock reviewed|1=original unblock reason|decline=If you have a problem with Indian vs. Pakistani users, read [[WP:DISPUTE]].  It is inappropriate for you to continue edit warring.  If you do not follow the [[WP:DISPUTE]] procedure, we can only conclude that you do not have a serious dispute.  Regardless, your request for unblock is ''not'' the right forum to discuss this matter.  Note that I am neither Indian nor Pakistani. -- [[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 16:18, 9 February 2007 (UTC)}}
I removed the tag ON the talkpage.I didn't edit war on a single article.I corrected.Rama's Arrow has been blocking Pakistani and other Muslim users for not allowing disagreeing with his POV.
They have also been repeaditly removing Pakistani tags on talkpages like Pinani for which none of them got blocked.They have repeatidly made racist remarks to Pakistani users,for which they have gotten away with every single time.
How is it fair that we keep getting blocked by Indian admins while Indian users repeatidly keep removing Pakistani tags from Pakistani talkpages.
Rama's Arrow has been edit warring with Szhaider and also removing sources I provide for articles.How long is this going to bias going to go on.
If removing an Indian tag from the talkpage of a Pakistani article is considered.
I have written 2 whole articles since I returned,which I spent hours writing on such as [[Kerwin Mathews]] and [[Jack the Giant Killer(film)]].I really don't deserve this.
'''I would like some neutral administraors(non-Indian prefferable) to make an observation of this dispute between Indian and Pakistanis users.They have been repeaditly removing Pakistani tags from Pakistani articles,removing relaible sources,removing all reffernces to Pakistan and these Indian admins are repeatidly blocking Pakistani users for not accepting Indian claims over Pakistani history.'''We have tried to discuss this so many times,but they simply refuse to listen'''.Rama's Arrow is exteremely biased and has blocked up to 5 users for not accepting his POV and has made some exteremely offensive racist comments which I can provide links to and for which he has not yet apologised for.How long is this injustice going to go on?I provided so many reasons for why indian tags shouldn't be on Pakistani articles.HOW LONG ARE PAKISTANI AND MUSLIM USERS GOING TO RECIEVE BLOCKS FOR?HOW LONG IS THIS ISSUE GOING TO BE IGNORED BY OUTSIDE AND NEUTRAL OBSERVERS????
IF WE ARE GOING TO GET BlOCKED FOR THIS ATLEAST WHY ARE THE INDIAN USERS NOT BEING BLOCKED FOR EDIT WARRING AND REPEATED PERSONAL ATTACKS?????????
THERE IS A SERIOUS BIAS HERE and SEVERAL users can see it.--[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali نادرالی]]

I would like administrator Dbachmann to observe my unblock request for the reasons provided above.--[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali نادرالی]]


{{unblock reviewed|1=NONE GIVEN|decline=You have been blocked for 48 hours, this is not indef. Please don't edit war. -- ~ [[User:Arjun01|<font color="#7b68ee">'''Arjun'''</font>]] 17:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)}}

== 1 week block  ==

Please see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Block_of_Nadirali_and_MinaretDk this ANI report]. [[User:Rama's Arrow|<font color="green">'''Rama's arrow'''</font>]] 05:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

==Acccusation of bias==
::Biased? Really[http://www.fas.org/irp/world/pakistan/threats/index.html][http://www.yespakistan.com/pakistanday/enhance_security.asp drugs->Gun culture->more drugs->terrorism]?[[User:Rumpelstiltskin223|Rumpelstiltskin223]] 21:30, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

::Please learn about [[WP:NOR]] and [[WP:RS]]. "Cooked-up" according to you. Wikipedia does not revolve around your personal opinion. Sorry. [[User:Rumpelstiltskin223|Rumpelstiltskin223]] 21:38, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

:::The sources are academic and satisfy [[WP:RS]]. Your opinions and experiences do not satisfy [[WP:RS]] and are, in fact, [[WP:NOR|original research]], completely tabooo on WP. If you find it uncomfortable that there is such hatred for Hindus in Pakistan then it is heartening that so many Pakistanis are reasonable good people. Perhaps it is good that this information is out there so that all concerned parties may read it and use it for introspection, no? [[User:Rumpelstiltskin223|Rumpelstiltskin223]] 21:48, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Accredited research is not personal opinion. Sorry, but this simply will not work on WP. And yes, of course you're right. Prejudice exists in every country. You wouldn't believe the crap I have heard from some people in India about Chinese people, baap re. the difference is that prejudice is not state sanctioned in India. [[User:Rumpelstiltskin223|Rumpelstiltskin223]] 21:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::No, not state sanctioned because that state has long since expired. Plus, Pakistan connection to terrorism in kashmir is a fact backed up by international orgs and non-Indian govts so India has nothing to do with it. Please don't make nonsense up. Use a blog for that. Also, accusing us of attacking Shri Harimandir Sahib Ji is a bit hypocritical given the brutal and rather pernicious treatment of Sikhs meted out to them in Pakistan, where madrassas and qutbas routinely lambast then as inhuman heretics and mobs throw feces on the toms of Ranjit Singh Ji. [[User:Rumpelstiltskin223|Rumpelstiltskin223]] 22:35, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Sources:[http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/engASA330082001][http://www.jammu-kashmir.com/insights/insight990525.html]. Plus, India has a Sikh Prime Minister, does Pakistan? Also, see "Muslim League attack on the Sikhs and Hindus in the punjab 1947 by Gurbachan Singh Talib" where it is clear that Sikhs have been rather brutally persecuted at the hands of Pakistan. [[User:Rumpelstiltskin223|Rumpelstiltskin223]] 22:40, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

==Sockpuppet Tag for Rumps==
Hey, I think you should keep the suspected sock puppet tag off his page until you have really really clear case against him.  It doesn't serve any purpose than to aggravate him otherwise, and this sort of aggravation plays into his arguments against you very well, so its also in your best interests to wait until the case is very clear.  I know he may have wronged you, but causing more trouble doesn't serve the overall content dispute, and may actually threaten you with a block if Rumps plays his cards right involving your edits.  Of course, it is OK to investigate the Hkelkar connection, but complete the investigation before posting a tag, in light of the sensitivity surrounding these incidents.  That's my advice, anyway.  Again, thanks for your work during the previous incident.  [[User:The Behnam|The Behnam]] 05:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

==Hi there==

Hi nadirali, Sorry to see you blocked again.  Well, when you come out of the block, my advice is to only focus on only ''one'' article and to not worry about what people are doing to other articles.  Work on a page that you ''like'' working on rather than a page that is controversial.  For example, I noticed that the [[Gun culture in Pakistan]] page didn't even have a description of what "gun culture" was, and yet there were active edit-wars going on.  Cursorily looking through some books I had lying around the house, I was able to add some material (all descriptive and noncontroversial).  The point I am making is that if you add enough interesting and descriptive material about the old traditional gun-culture, about the history of family rivalries, etc in NWFP, then the controversial part about terrorism becomes less important.  Even if someone adds some text about terrorism, it won't loom as large, and can be ignored.  The page obviously still needs a lot of work&mdash;I haven't even copy edited  it yet, but it is ready to be expanded in the directions I indicate with my edits.   [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</font>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#708090">«Talk»</font>]] 02:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
:PS I don't know what Rumpelstiltskin223 was trying to accomplish with his edits, but the point is that if you keep adding relevant material, other editors, who are editing because of an agenda and not because they have ''empathy'' for the topic (in this case the people of Swat, Peshawar, NWFP), will eventually tire and drop out. [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</font>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#708090">«Talk»</font>]] 02:20, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks FOwler.Sorry i lost my head.Trust me that Im very angry with myself.The block RA gave me was because I tried to prove a few links against him.I will deal with that later.When I get unblocked,I will definately write up a couple of articles I was planning.Again thanks alot for your support and empathy.Take care.[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali نادرالی]]

Folwer,I forgot to add [[undivided India]] where they state India existed and contained the rest of South Asia as a "united country".Please fix that if you can.Thanx.[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali نادرالی]]

:[[Undivided India]] is so poorly written that it's not worth bothering with.  [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</font>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#708090">«Talk»</font>]] 11:40, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

== PA ==

This is your final warning. Keep making personal attacks and your already long block log will get longer.

{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|With regards to your comments on [[:{{{1}}}]]:&#32;}}Please see Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|no personal attacks]] policy. Comment on ''content'', not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocks]] for disruption. Please [[Wikipedia:Staying cool when the editing gets hot|stay cool]] and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. <!-- Template:No personal attacks (npa2) --> [[User:Rumpelstiltskin223|Rumpelstiltskin223]] 23:32, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I posted multiple warnings to you on your talkpage,which you keep deleting.Please do not delete them next time.[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali نادرالی]]

== [[August 2006 ball tampering controversy]] ==
Hello. Here is the article. '''[[User:Blnguyen|Blnguyen]]'''  ([[User talk:Blnguyen|bananabucket]]) 23:44, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

== Comments at ANI ==

Hi. I have removed your comment from [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Misuse_of_Admin_Rights.2C_User:_Aksi_great|this section]]. That section was started by a user to bring to the attention of the community a block I had made. If you have anything to say on the matter then please do so. But if you want to complain about Rama's Arrow's admin actions then start a new section or file an admin action RfC. - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]]) 16:38, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

== warning ==

Nadirali, the behavior and editing you've gotten into within hours of returning to editing is not acceptable - you are making incivil accusations and engaging in revert wars. You are strongly advised to read [[WP:DE]], [[WP:CIVIL]], [[WP:NPA]] very, very carefully. I suggest you please do your best to make a fresh start with a cooler head. [[User:Rama's Arrow|<font color="green">'''Rama's arrow'''</font>]] 03:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

== Advice ==

I suggest that you stop responding to Kumarnator. The discussions lead to nowhere other than mud-slinging and personal attacks. Thank you. --[[User:Ragib|Ragib]] 08:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 
Just when I was having a good time with him.But I agree it leads to nowhere and never did.If he only stopped messaging me all the time,it would have stopped a long time ago.[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali]] 15:25, 6 December 2006

== Re: Pakistan project template ==

I am aware of it. This user is actually trying to improve the template with more complex wiki-sytax and has been unsuccessful so far. I will talk to him and see how can I help him. Thanks for writing! [[User:Szhaider|Szhaider]] 03:51, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay sure thing.Tell me if there's anything I can do to correct it.Regards.--[[User:Nadirali|Nadirali نادرالی]]

AA bhai it ws me ding all that.if you see this project i wanted a similar templ.like this one . Wikipedia:WikiProject Aircraft.so pl help with it. i have tried my templ on Dawn(newspaper) but it's not working well so pl help with it.WS.[[User talk:Yousaf465]]

aa I'm sorry that i leeft that userbox as it.although i'm not pilot want flying is one of my passions.And of fact is that except Mushak's or one helicopter in which sat at airshow i have never seen cockpit in reallife.Although my brother has 50+ hours on [http://www.vasim.org/bb.asp].He definetly going to become a pilot although my field will be differnet one.The temple. need to have assment so i edited it. ws. [[User talk:Yousaf465]]

On my visit to risalpur air base i did some inspection of the aircraft was told by the tech. that the engine and avaoincs were imported from U.S.A. and air frame was locally desigend and manf.[[User talk:Yousaf465]]

== My talk with Rama ==

[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Khalidkhoso/Archive_1#Re:Jinnah_and_Iqbal]] this might help you. [[User:Khalidkhoso|Khalidkhoso]] 22:28, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

==Rumpelstiltskin==
While I have first hand evidence of him enforcing biased views on the [[devadasi]] page, I don't really know what you are specifically talking about regarding Pakistani terrorism.  He did complain about Pakistani users at the [[Women in Pakistan]] article, but he didn't really point out what was wrong with their behavior.  He doesn't tend to back up his assertions; for example, he tried to write off perfectly legitimate sources by pointing out ''different'' sources that were somewhat anti-Hindu, and extrapolating this incorrect relationship to mean that my sources are about killing Hindus.  Anyway, link me up with a few examples of his biased terrorism edits, and if its appropriate, I'll warn him to avoid detrimental and contentious edits.  [[User:The Behnam|The Behnam]] 21:57, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

:Hi nadirali, as I mentioned above, please don't get involved in warring with rumpelstiltskin.  If you are worried about any page, please post the name of that page on my talk page and I'll take care of it.  [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</font>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#708090">«Talk»</font>]] 22:41, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::Well, if you suspect a meatpuppet for Hkelkar, I'm probably not the one to talk to, since I'm no admin or anything like that.  I'm definitely willing to take an impartial look at the conflicts and give recommendations.  [[User:The Behnam|The Behnam]] 23:46, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:::From now on, lets just keep the whole discussion on my talk page.  It is getting confusing switching back and forth all of the time.  Besides, Rumps is also posting there, so the conversation won't be separated.  [[User:The Behnam|The Behnam]] 23:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

==Welcome Back and Thanks!==
Hi nadirali,  Welcome back!  I am assuming you are now unblocked!  Thanks for the barnstar!  I will put it on my page right away!  A word of friendly and sympathetic advice.  Please be careful in your edits (and edit summaries) and even talk pages posts from now on (no matter how upset you might be).  My guess is that you will be watched carefully by various people for even the slightest slip.  So, you will have to be doubly careful.  Also, no matter how upset you are right now about your block, or how wronged you feel, I would recommend you to not worry about ''revenge'' or ''reprisal''.  Best to take it easy and just do noncontroversial edits.  Warm regards!  [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</font>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#708090">«Talk»</font>]] 20:30, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

:Hi nadirali, Please don't get involved in battles with user Rumpelstiltskin223, especially at this stage of the game.  If you are worried about Indian POV being asserted in Pakistan-related articles, just post the name of the article(s) on my talk page and I will deal with those pages.  But please for now don't get involved in POV issues with other people.  [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</font>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#708090">«Talk»</font>]] 22:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

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