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== CFS Responses ==
In case you weren't aware, several of the topics that you've responded to recently around the topic of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome are over a year old and, more importantly, in many cases you're responding to a banned user ({{User|Guido den Broeder}}) who can inherently never reply to the topic.  I haven't really gone over your posts in detail, so it's entirely possible that it makes sense to respond to these topics even given the above points, but I just wanted to make sure you were aware. —[[User:RobinHood70|RobinHood70]] <sup>([[User talk:RobinHood70|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RobinHood70|contribs]])</sup> 03:41, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! [[User:Justito|JustinReilly]] ([[User talk:Justito#top|talk]]) 03:44, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. I've moved your CCC comments at Clinical Descriptions to a more recent discussion. [[User:Sam Weller|Sam Weller]] ([[User talk:Sam Weller|talk]]) 16:23, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

== Welcome to the cesspool ==

Hi JustinReilly, welcome to the cesspool that is editing the CFS articles. It has been relatively peacefully lately but in the past there have been some major struggles. During an earlier comment I suspect you were referring to this: [[WP:IGNORE]] (Ignore all rules), "If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it." Here is an essay (ie someone's opinion) on how to interpret this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Use_common_sense - I can't offer much advice on that, the [[WP:RULES]] at Wikipedia are somewhat inconsistent when taken too literally. As there is room for selective interpretation, the rules are often applied arbitrarily, leading to arguments.

Wikipedia claims the rules are defined by what the "majority of editors" believe should be, and that Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy, but in practice it is usually most aggressive editors most familiar with the rules who get their own way in such situations. Some people in the past have come to Wikipedia and even proposed or implied that all mention of psychological factors in CFS should be removed completely. This simply isn't going to happen under the current scientific and political climate. Neither has been the reinstatement of a separate article for ME, but I believe one day this will change. Personally I have no issue with genuine well-conducted research into psychological and social aspects of illness that do not starve funding for more important biological research, but that's the catch, standards in research of the former in CFS appear to be disgracefully low and attached to ideological baggage and often riddled with flaws.

Yes, the claims about abnormal illness beliefs and neuroticism in CFS are indeed questionable, but I generally agree with what RobinHood70 said on the issue. In some ways I'm an "inclusionist", for example I would rather the issue of neuroticism be dealt with instead of being excluded. Without it the minds of readers, especially those sympathic to dubious psychosomatic hypotheses/interpretations, may remain uninformed and conclude this article fails to mention the "truth that patients don't want to hear". With the current text however (which could be improved), they are informed that a systematic review into the issue found that levels of neuroticism in CFS is similar to that found in patients of chronic (organic) diseases and can be explained by subset of patients with comorbid depression. In other words, despite the psychobabble, neuroticism isn't really specific to CFS nor a major factor in CFS. It was a major struggle for several editors to include such a caveat in the article!

Note that it is preferable to post new comments on the current talkpages rather than edit the archives. - [[User: Tekaphor|<span style="color:blue">Tekaphor</span>]] ([[User_talk: Tekaphor|<small>TALK</small>]]) 03:59, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your perspective, Tekaphor.  I and all pwME are indebted to you for your excellent work here!  [[User:Justito|JustinReilly]] ([[User talk:Justito#top|talk]]) 08:05, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

:Thanks for the compliments! - [[User: Tekaphor|<span style="color:blue">Tekaphor</span>]] ([[User_talk: Tekaphor|<small>TALK</small>]]) 04:08, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

== Jennifer Raab Page ==

Hi there - saw you made some nice improvements to the [[Jennifer Raab]] page a couple weeks ago. Another user has since added some contentious content as well as external links, including a blog link, which I don't believe belong in that section. Would you mind having a look? I value your opinion on this. Thanks. [[User:NinaSpezz|NinaSpezz]] ([[User talk:NinaSpezz|talk]]) 18:56, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

== Thank you for the 'polish' ==

CFS @Doctor Patient relations
You recently edited the CFS page to more closely reflect the spirit of the comment by Charles Shepherd.
Did you notice that audio file attached to eh BBC page in which Wesley himself said 'it was a tiny minority of patients'?  That omission has been annoying me for some time!  I may get around to that once I finish work on treatments.  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Leopardtail|Leopardtail]] ([[User talk:Leopardtail|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leopardtail|contribs]]) 09:02, 25 May 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Ebola dates ==

Hi Justito we keep that date as per latest official reports. The us case is not yet in a official global report. Please stick to the article line as per all previous edits.. regards Brian.[[User:BrianGroen|BrianGroen]] ([[User talk:BrianGroen|talk]]) 15:14, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

In fact the whole US section should come out here till it is an oficail global report i.e OCHA , CDC WHO or goverments with same dated report for all, but due to tremendous interest i left it on for now... Kind Regards Brian[[User:BrianGroen|BrianGroen]] ([[User talk:BrianGroen|talk]]) 15:18, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for posting so much but there was a dispute resolution an this and this is inline with DRN conclusion.[[User:BrianGroen|BrianGroen]] ([[User talk:BrianGroen|talk]]) 15:23, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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== January 2023 ==


[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hi Justito! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of [[:John Campbell (YouTuber)]] several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the [[WP:Edit warring|edit warring policy]] disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

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I have not reverted. I have changed wording. You reverted my edits without discussion on talk page.  [[User:Justito|JustinReilly]] ([[User talk:Justito#top|talk]]) 08:28, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
:Maybe try [[WP:BRD]]? And you have reverted. The onus is on <u>you</u> to get consensus for your desired changes. Oh, and they all look to me like [[WP:PROFRINGE]] bad ones. [[User:Bon courage|Bon courage]] ([[User talk:Bon courage|talk]]) 08:29, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Where specifically did I revert? [[User:Justito|JustinReilly]] ([[User talk:Justito#top|talk]]) 08:38, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
:For example changing, and then changing again to call Science-Based-Medicine just "a blog" (this is called [[poisoning the well]]). [[WP:REVERTING]] is continually changing to your preferred wording{{snd}}and don't think you can game your way around it by making slight wording changes in subsequent attempts. Remember [[WP:NOTDUMB]]. [[User:Bon courage|Bon courage]] ([[User talk:Bon courage|talk]]) 08:43, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:Shibbolethink|Shibbolethink]]. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, [[:epidemiology of autism]], but you didn't provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]]. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|include a citation]] and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at  [[Help:Referencing for beginners|referencing for beginners]]. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on [[User talk:Shibbolethink|my talk page]]. ''WHO news pages are not [[WP:MEDRS]], the level of citation required to revise incidence/prevalence numbers for diseases. See also [[WP:BMI]]''. <!-- Template:uw-unsourced1 --> —&nbsp;[[User:Shibbolethink|<span style="color: black">Shibboleth</span><span style="color: maroon">ink</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Shibbolethink|♔]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Shibbolethink|♕]])</sup> 14:53, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
:Please be more careful in how you use citation formatting. On [[Aducanumab]], you linked to a [[Wikipedia:Bare URLs|bare URL]] which was already cited on the page [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Aducanumab&diff=1133868203&oldid=1133864828]. I've fixed the error. But this is ''your responsibility'' as the person who adds the citation. Make sure it isn't already cited, and if it is, add the proper citation reference. Thanks. —&nbsp;[[User:Shibbolethink|<span style="color: black">Shibboleth</span><span style="color: maroon">ink</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Shibbolethink|♔]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Shibbolethink|♕]])</sup> 15:03, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

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== March 2023 ==


[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hi Justito! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of an article several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the [[WP:Edit warring|edit warring policy]] disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

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:@Bon courage, I don’t think Ive reverted an edit of mine twice, at least since I’ve become more active. If there is a policy against reverting once, I’d like to see it ‘cause then I would rarely be given the opportunity to revert if others didn’t revert my edits. As a rule I explain in detail my reasoning w my reversion (or before w my original edit) and not uncommonly am I then reverted or rereverted for no good faith reason and or de minimis or no explanation. So, I think your hall monitor attention should not be wasted on me. [[User:Justito|JustinReilly]] ([[User talk:Justito#top|talk]]) 07:00, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
:{{re|Bon courage}} It takes two to tango. [[User:Sennalen|Sennalen]] ([[User talk:Sennalen|talk]]) 14:14, 30 March 2023 (UTC)