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== Auto-archiving? ==

Is this page on?  There's a ton of dead threads here, would people be opposed to auto-archiving? [[User:Power~enwiki|Power~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Power~enwiki|talk]]) 15:16, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

== David J. Hickton  and  Roy C. Start category? ==

Why are [[David J. Hickton]] and [[Roy C. Start]] in ''Category:WikiProject Biography/Politics and government'' and not in the sub-category  ''importance=low''?--[[User:Dthomsen8|Dthomsen8]] ([[User talk:Dthomsen8|talk]]) 00:01, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

== [[Jake Zimmerman]] ==

Hi, anybody hanging around who might know if [[:File:Jake Zimmerman Stock Photo.jpg|this]] is Jake Zimmerman? Thank you for your time. :) [[User:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[User talk:Lotje|talk]]) 05:04, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

== RfC at [[Karl Marx]] ==

Should the categories Ashkenazi Jews, German people of Jewish descent, Jewish atheists, Jewish philosophers, Jewish socialists, Jewish sociologists be added to this article?[[Talk:Karl_Marx#RfC]] <span style="font-family: Papyrus">[[User:RolandR|RolandR]] ([[User talk:RolandR|talk]])</span> 11:35, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

==Discussion at [[Gillian Keegan#Photo under wrong licence at commons]]==
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==Additional input needed...==
...[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Benito_Mussolini#RfC:_Which_image_should_be_used_as_the_lede_image here]. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 17:25, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

== Andrew Jackson ==

I nominated [[Andrew Jackson]] for GAN, but it has been stuck there for approximately 4 months will no-one yet volunteering to review it. My plan was to take it to FAC after it became a good article. However, I'm starting to think that the article is in good enough condition that I might be able to take it straight to FAC without having to wait for somebody to do an FA review on it. I would appreciate it if someone took no more than a quick look through the article and gave me their opinion on whether or not it was ready. Thanks. [[User:Display name 99|Display name 99]] ([[User talk:Display name 99|talk]]) 01:29, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

== Succession boxes for people elected under STV-PR (and possibly other PR systems) ==

I noticed something odd about the succession box in the [[Trevor Clarke]] article; it says he continued to represent the South Antrim NIA constituency after his seat was abolished. After some investigation, I'm still confused about what is or should be standard practice for succession boxes covering representatives of multi-member constituencies like the South Antrim NIA constituency.

What should I do with Clarke's succession box? His seat was abolished in the sense that he has five simultaneous successors as MLA in South Antrim and he had been the 6th. However, the succession box refers to "MLA for Antrim South", not "6th MLA for Antrim South".

[[User:Tim Ivorson|Tim Ivorson]] 2018-03-09

:Hi Tim, I agree it's confusing to say SEAT ABOLISHED when it hasn't yet been explained that the seat was only one of six for the constituency. Probably the best way to fix this is to modify the infobox template to allow us to specify the seat number for multiple-member constituencies. I'll have a look! At the moment, the words "seat abolished" link to the STV page, which helps a bit; alternatively we could append the seat number to the end date value so it displays "day month 2007 - day month 2017 (seat 6)"... assuming he was elected in 6th place in Assemblies 3 and 4 as well as 5, which we should check!! -- [[User:samillar94|'''<span style="color:#080">sam</span>''']]<sup>[[User talk:samillar94|💬]]</sup> 18:40, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

::Further digging reveals that Clarke was elected 4th in 2007. That is to say he was joint 4th elected with two others, but had the highest STV total of the three at that stage. [http://www.eoni.org.uk/getmedia/ffc7688b-0ad6-4250-9901-da7bd29709c0/south_antrim] Then 3rd in 2011, and 6th in 2016. Paul Girvan was elected 1st in 2017. This is too much faff to account for in an infobox, so I'm going to state "multiple members" rather than "seat abolished". We can only name successors and predecessors when there's a co-option. You'll see how I've dealt with that on the page. -- [[User:samillar94|'''<span style="color:#080">sam</span>''']]<sup>[[User talk:samillar94|💬]]</sup> 22:54, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

:::Oh gourd lod, they're all like this. Every single MLA. I'll bet people have just been sticking in a random MLA from their party as the predecessor or successor at elections. Template text to use:

:::DESCRIBE CHANGES: Assembly successors and predecessors at elections amended to "multiple members"; circumstances stated for unique successors and predecessors; Assembly election links added.

:::[[Single Transferable Vote|multiple]] [[List of members of the nth Northern Ireland Assembly|members]]

:::multiple [[List of members of the nth Northern Ireland Assembly|members]]

:::-- [[User:samillar94|'''<span style="color:#080">sam</span>''']]<sup>[[User talk:samillar94|💬]]</sup> 00:02, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

== Request for assistance ==

There is a discussion on [[Talk:Margaret Sanger#I have reverted the edits of NightHeron, as I think they better be discussed first]] that failed to attract third-party comments. Your comments are welcome there! Request put down here, as it is listed s in the interest of this WikiProject. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 23:49, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

== Roseanne Barr GAR ==

I've started [[WP:Good article reassessment/Roseanne Barr/1]] and welcome input from others. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 22:17, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

== 3rd party eyes are necessary. ==

As the primary editor of [[Byron Brown]], I am too close to the article to assess the propriety of [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Byron_Brown&curid=2354242&diff=833519101&oldid=833067066 these edits].-[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]] / [[WP:FOUR]] / [[WP:CHICAGO]] / [[WP:WAWARD]])</small> 17:54, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

== [[:Aubrey Dunn Jr.]] ==

Just curious is this person would satisfy [[:WP:NPOL]]. He doesn't appear to meet [[:WP:BIO]], but maybe being the [[:New Mexico Commissioner of Public Lands]] is considered sufficient enough to establish notability? -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 04:51, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

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== Stylistic question about capitalization of "independent" in an infobox ==

One often sees "Independent" capitalized in Wikipedia articles, such as in the infobox at [[Bernie Sanders]], as if it were the name of a party, like Democrat or Republican. Because there is no party, it should never be capitalized except where other common nouns would normally be capitalized, e.g. at the beginning of a sentence. This is consistent with the usage of the word in [[Independent politician]]. If "independent" isn't capitalized in the infobox, should a person's party affiliation be abbreviated similarly, e.g. Bernie Sanders (i)?

I would appreciate receiving consensus on this matter, so that I and other editors will have a basis for capitalization or not. Perhaps we could start with whether [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Bernie_Sanders&diff=843176609&oldid=843101992 this edit] was an appropriate one. Cheers, [[User:HopsonRoad|HopsonRoad]] ([[User talk:HopsonRoad|talk]]) 18:03, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
*I think we have to go by what reliable sources do, and, frankly, I've never seen any news source use "(i)", it's always (I). [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 22:23, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
*What's in the infobox is sort of like a heading. Headings are always capitalized. The word "Independent" should therefore be capitalized as well. [[User:Display name 99|Display name 99]] ([[User talk:Display name 99|talk]]) 22:25, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
*There are more Independents than just US-Independents. In Ireland, it is common to capitalize. See for example in this news article: [https://www.newstalk.com/Enda-Kenny-Taoiseach-Cabinet-Dail-votes-Independents Enda Kenny is re-elected as Taoiseach in the Dáil]. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 22:32, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
**Thanks for this input, [[User:The Banner|The Banner]]. However, in this case there appears to be a party or association named, [[Independent Alliance (Ireland)|The Independent Alliance]], which properly should be capitalized, as should its short-hand mention as "Independents". Cheers, [[User:HopsonRoad|HopsonRoad]] ([[User talk:HopsonRoad|talk]]) 11:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
***There is indeed a political ''grouping'' (not being a party) but [[Michael Harty]] is truly an Independent politician. No party involved and the given link reflects that. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 13:19, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
****The article, [[Independent Alliance (Ireland)]], uses "independent politicians" (lc) to refer to those members identified. Note that the banner at the bottom of [[Michael Harty]] says, "This article about an ''independent politician'' in Ireland is a stub", also using lc. [[User:HopsonRoad|HopsonRoad]] ([[User talk:HopsonRoad|talk]]) 20:22, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
*'''Summary of discussion''' I wish to thank everyone, who has responded, so far. At this point, I concur with [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] that it's good practice to follow the lead of reliable sources in abbreviating "independent" with a "(I)". I concur with [[User:Display name 99|Display name 99]] that it makes sense to treat an entry in an infobox like a heading, which would confer an upper case to "Independent" in that setting. I don't concur with [[User:The Banner|The Banner]], if the suggestion is that it's generally appropriate to treat "independent" as a proper noun, when referring to Irish politicians, unless it's part of a phrase that refers to a named group like the [[Independent Alliance (Ireland)]] of Ireland. Cheers, [[User:HopsonRoad|HopsonRoad]] ([[User talk:HopsonRoad|talk]]) 20:44, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
**Your conclusion about my words is 100% opposite from what I have said. I have said that politicians like [[Michael Harty]] are always referred as "Independent", so with a capital. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 21:11, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
***I understood that you consider "independent" as a proper noun in reference to Irish politicians and advocate for capitalization. I simply said that I don't concur—nor does the article about [[Michael Harty]] in the banner at the bottom nor does the article on [[Independent Alliance (Ireland)]]. Sincerely, [[User:HopsonRoad|HopsonRoad]] ([[User talk:HopsonRoad|talk]]) 21:21, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
***A sampling of '''Category:Independent politician in Ireland stubs''' revealed no instances where "independent" was capitalized, except at the beginning of a sentence. [[User:HopsonRoad|HopsonRoad]] ([[User talk:HopsonRoad|talk]]) 20:27, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

== John R. Holmes ==

Users may be interested in this AfD [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/John_R._Holmes]]. '''''[[User:Polyamorph|Polyamorph]]''''' ([[User talk:Polyamorph#top|talk]]) 19:41, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

==RfC at Roseanne Barr==
There is an RfC at the [[Talk:Roseanne Barr|Roseanne Barr talk page]] found [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Roseanne_Barr#BRD_and_RfC_over_recent_edit here] that members of this project might be interested in taking part in. '''<span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">[[User:Winkelvi|-- ψλ]]</span>''' ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">[[User_talk:Winkelvi|✉]] [[Special:Contributions/Winkelvi|✓]]</span> 01:53, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

==Discussion at [[talk:Donald Trump#RfC: Should the immigration section include material about Trump's family separation policy?]]==
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== Winston Churchill - reference probems ==

There are a number of unresolved reference problems on [[Winston Churchill]]. Please see the thread at [[Talk:Winston Churchill#Sources]]. Your attention would be appreciated. [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 15:37, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

== [[Jim Jordan (American politician)|Jim Jordan]] ==

Hello! I am becoming concerned the [[Jim Jordan (American politician)|Jim Jordan]] article is becoming overburden with edits regarding an on-going sexual harassment investigation at Ohio State dating from 1980s and 1990s. I believe the a [[Jim Jordan (American politician)#Ohio State University sexual abuse scandal|section]] fails [[WP:NPOV]] and [[WP:TMI]]. The section of the article needs an expert with a neutral point of view that doesn't go overboard with too much information. [[User:FunksBrother|FunksBrother]] ([[User talk:FunksBrother|talk]]) 02:18, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

==RfC on Ron DeSantis "monkey" quote==

There is an RfC at the [[Ron DeSantis]] [[Talk:Ron DeSantis|talk page]] found [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ron_DeSantis#RfC_re:_wording_in_%22monkey%22_paragraph here] that members of this project might interested in taking part in.  '''<span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">[[User:Winkelvi|-- ψλ]]</span>''' ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">[[User_talk:Winkelvi|✉]] [[Special:Contributions/Winkelvi|✓]]</span> 16:12, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

== [[Sean Tevis]] ==

I recently came across the article [[Sean Tevis]], about a notable (unsuccessful) political candidate from Kansas a decade ago.  I updated a lot of it to the correct tense and to reflect a more encyclopedic, less newsy approach.  However, there was one detail I wasn't able to pin down: Tevis's campaign drew a huge number of small donations, and that led to a bill proposed in the KS legislature that would have required candidates with large numbers of donors to report their names and addresses.  The thing is, I can't figure out what happened to this bill: was it ever voted on?  did it pass?  is it law?  (See [[Talk:Sean_Tevis#Tevis_Bill_outcome?|here]] for what I did find.)  Can anyone help?  <small>(Cross-posted to [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Kansas]].)</small>  Thanks, [[User:Joel B. Lewis|JBL]] ([[User_talk:Joel_B._Lewis|talk]]) 13:05, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

== RFC: Successor-elects in the infobox ==
{{archive top|1='''No consensus''' -- [[User talk:DeltaQuad|<span style="color:white;background-color:#8A2DB8"><b>Amanda</b></span>]] <small>[[User:DeltaQuad|(aka DQ)]]</small> 03:57, 11 January 2019 (UTC)}}
Should we add the successors of incumbents like [[Special:Diff/868032094|this edit]]? [[User talk:Corkythehornetfan|<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS; color: #231f20">'''Corky'''</span>]] 16:26, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

=== Support ===
#We've been doing it this way for years. Why change now? [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 23:51, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
#{{sbb}} useful information to have in an infobox. [[User:Coretheapple|Coretheapple]] ([[User talk:Coretheapple|talk]]) 16:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
#The elected individual is highly likely to take office. Our readership, following an election and prior to stepping down (particularly in locales, such as the US, where there is a large gap between the two), would generally be interested in the designated successor. There's little harm to adding the successor-elect, and the (elect) parenthetical amply shows the succession hasn't taken place yet. [[User:Icewhiz|Icewhiz]] ([[User talk:Icewhiz|talk]]) 17:04, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
#{{sbb}} As per GoodDay and Icebox. The (elect) parenthetical makes status clear.[[User:HouseOfChange|HouseOfChange]] ([[User talk:HouseOfChange|talk]]) 12:41, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

=== Oppose ===
# per my discussion [[:Talk:Jeff Colyer#Putting successor in infobox]]. We have {{em|never}} listed a successor until they have officially taken office, just like Obama's infobox didn't list Trump until January 20, 2017. {{U|Samtondiaz}} has added the successors to a majority of the infoboxes for incumbents, yet, when reverted, they revert again despite there being no consensus. The purpose of this RFC is to obtain a consensus. [[User talk:Corkythehornetfan|<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS; color: #231f20">'''Corky'''</span>]] 16:26, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
#I think we don't list successors until they have taken office. Would prefer consistency about this across articles.[[User:Seraphim System|<span style="font-family:Helvetica; color:#503753; text-shadow:#b3b3cc 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">'''Seraphim System'''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Seraphim System|<span style="color:#009900">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:43, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
#I think this is a great idea in concept, however, it would introduce a factual inaccuracy as a successor is not a successor until they have succeeded and, as likely as it may seem a President-Elect would become President, we shouldn't [[WP:CRYSTALBALL]]. I also think this has the potential to become messy. In the US case, the POTUS is universally referred to in RS as "president elect" within a day or two of election day, but isn't "president elect" until the Electoral College elects him or her. To invoke a different example, [[Chuck Grassley]] is President Pro Tempore of the Senate and, if he dropped dead tomorrow, we already know under existing rules that [[Mitch McConnell]] would become the Pro Tempore. However, McConnell would lose his status as de facto successor having never succeeded if there is a party shift at some point in the future. This becomes very messy and will lead to future arguments as to when to activate the parameter. '''I would support, however,''' adding an "anticipated successor" (or similarly named) parameter to the infobox to ameliorate this dilemma. [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford|talk]]) 02:59, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

=== Discussion ===
Jumping to an RfC in response to a single edit is ridiculous -- there has not been any discussion on that article talk page yet, even!  --[[User:Joel B. Lewis|JBL]] ([[User_talk:Joel_B._Lewis|talk]]) 16:30, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
:It's not just that article... it's [[:Kevin Yoder]], [[:Heidi Heitkamp]], [[:Dennis Ross (politician)|Dennis Ross]], [[:Mike Capuano]], [[:Rod Blum]], [[:Jim Renacci]], [[:John Hickenlooper]], etc. Do I need to go on? I used Colyer as an example because he's the current governor of my state. [[User talk:Corkythehornetfan|<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS; color: #231f20">'''Corky'''</span>]] 17:35, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
:Never mind the fact that this is part of the same tired old post-election spam that's been dumped on the encyclopedia every two years for quite some time now.  As I've pointed out in one such discussion, we appear to have editors content to push the POV that getting elected is all that matters to our coverage of an individual and that their swearing-in is a mere formality.  It's quite possible to dig up a RS which explicitly states as much, but are those individual sources "minority viewpoints" as described in [[WP:UNDUE]]?  There's also a related issue, where numerous corners of the encyclopedia portray state legislators whose terms actually begin and end in January of odd-numbered years as having their terms begin or end in even-numbered years.  This appears to fall in line with the same POV and are often backed by the same type of news media sources.[[User:RadioKAOS|<span style="color:green;"> RadioKAOS </span>]]/[[User talk:RadioKAOS|<span style="color:green;"> Talk to me, Billy </span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/RadioKAOS|<span style="color:green;"> Transmissions </span>]] 02:56, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
:Also, I decided to click on one of the links provided by Corky, in this case the Hickenlooper article (No relation to [[Bourke Hickenlooper]]?  Damn.).  I noticed the successor-elect in the infobox.  I also noticed that everything else in the article pertaining to 2018 is already outdated.  This reveals another POV, namely the thought that we need only be concerned with the infobox because nobody really reads articles anymore.[[User:RadioKAOS|<span style="color:green;"> RadioKAOS </span>]]/[[User talk:RadioKAOS|<span style="color:green;"> Talk to me, Billy </span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/RadioKAOS|<span style="color:green;"> Transmissions </span>]] 07:47, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
===The more general problem of losing candidates' articles===
As mentioned above, articles of losing candidates may not be updated after an election. (Articles like  [[Kara Eastman]] that turn into redirects are not a problem; articles of losing incumbents are.) Perhaps it makes sense to create a small wikiproject for elections, to add one simple sentence and link, if needed, to articles of election losers if previous editors have now lost interest. [[User:HouseOfChange|HouseOfChange]] ([[User talk:HouseOfChange|talk]]) 15:05, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
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== RFC: Where to place 'Acting', 'Elect', 'Designate' etc in infoboxes ==
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Where should we place terms like 'Acting', 'Elect', 'Designate' etc inside infoboxes of political bios? [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 02:53, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Option 1: are the top 3 boxes <br>
Option 2: are the bottom 3 boxes

{{Infobox officeholder
|name= Brad Little
|office=[[Governor of Idaho]] <br> Elect
}}
{{Infobox officeholder
|name= Jane Swift
|office=[[Governor of Massachusetts]] <br> Acting
}}
{{Infobox officeholder
|name= Blaine Higgs
|office=[[Premier of New Brunswick]] <br> Designate
}}

{{Infobox officeholder
|name= Brad Little
|office=[[Governor of Idaho|Governor-elect of Idaho]] 
}}
{{Infobox officeholder
|name= Jane Swift
|office=Acting [[Governor of Massachusetts]] 
}}
{{Infobox officeholder
|name= Blaine Higgs
|office= [[Premier of New Brunswick|Premier-designate of New Brunswick]]
}}

{{Clear}}

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* '''Option 2 for all''' – Governor-elect is what you see in new sources (I’ll include them if requested), and “acting” goes before the title per news sources (I’ll include them if requested). Adding a break to the titles is just adding more (wasteful) space to the infobox/article. [[User talk:Corkythehornetfan|<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS; color: #231f20">'''Corky'''</span>]] 03:24, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
* '''Option 2 for all''' The correct phrasing is "Governor-elect", "Acting Governor", "Premier-designate". Nobody would say "Governor of Idaho Elect" in describing who Brad Little is, they would say "Governor-elect of Idaho". Also, it's unnecessary to add a line break in that parameter. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 03:42, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
* '''Option 1 for all''' or '''Option 2 for all''' - as my major concern is consistency across these infoboxes. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 03:44, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
* '''Option 2''' - the top-line is misleading if one misses the bottom line - e.g. if one were only to read the first line and miss the second, one may be confused to think that the -elect individual is actually holding office. [[User:Icewhiz|Icewhiz]] ([[User talk:Icewhiz|talk]]) 17:09, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
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:Gentlemen - {{ping|Icewhiz}}, {{ping|Muboshgu}}, {{ping|Corkythehornetfan}} - it's been over a year since the closure of the Rfc & the consensus reached here, hasn't been applied overall on the bio political article infoboxes. Some of yas haven't been showing much energy in getting it applied. I can't do it all myself & so I'm not going to try anymore. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 01:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
::I don’t edit much anymore, so I’m of no help. Sorry. [[User talk:Corkythehornetfan|<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS; color: #231f20">'''Corky'''</span>]] 05:23, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
:{{u|GoodDay}}, I do believe I change Option 1 to Option 2 whenever I come across it. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 17:34, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
::I'm very much done with it. PS - Just noticed that [[User:Icewhiz|Icewhiz]], is banned. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 17:37, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

== [[Talk:Catalina Cruz (politician)]] ==

Hello! If possible, I would like some input in the "Lead" thread. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 10:13, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

== [[Scott Smith (American politician)]] GAR ==

[[Scott Smith (American politician)]], an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Scott Smith (American politician)/1|reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. <span style="white-space:nowrap; font-family: Harlow Solid Italic;">[[User:Gonzo_fan2007|<span style="font-size: small; color: teal;"> « Gonzo fan2007</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Gonzo_fan2007#top|<span style="color:#2A2722;">(talk)</span>]] @ </small></span> 18:28, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

== Possible AfD and almost certain COI- [[Vincent Harris (political strategist)]] ==

This page certainly is a [[WP:PROMO]] for Harris, and given how its written and the unusual amount of photos for someone of his notability it could also be a case of [[WP:AUTOBIO]]. I should also note that the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Righty_2012 author of the page has only contributed to this single article] and that Harris himself has [http://america.aljazeera.com/blogs/scrutineer/2015/1/6/wikipedia-mcconnellpauldemocrat.html admitted to editing Wikipedia to boost the profile of his clients]. Wondering what other editors' opinion on this article is and whether or not it should be nominated for deletion. Best, [[User:GPL93|GPL93]] ([[User_talk:GPL93|talk]]) 16:44, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

== Consensus on the "series/sidebar" layout for politicians/officeholders ==
It seems that there's no consensus/guideline on the general layout/structure of biographical series/sidebar for politicians/officeholders yet. e.g. {{tl|Bernie Sanders series}}, {{tl|Margaret Thatcher sidebar}}. —[[User:Wei4Green|Wei4Green &#124; 唯绿远大]] ([[User talk:Wei4Green|talk]]) 02:14, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

==[[Ferdinand Marcos]]==
Editors with concern about the encyclopedic integrity of WP, and the credibility of our project as a historical resource should review [[Ferdinand Marcos]], and especially the first sentence of the lead section in regard the the word "Kleptocrat".  While I don't doubt his corruption, this seems like an odd term and POV, being pushed by narrow and local political agenda.  Cheers! --[[User:Kevin Murray|Kevin Murray]] ([[User talk:Kevin Murray|talk]]) 09:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

== [[:Azarias Ruberwa]] ==

Could someone from this WikiProject take a look at [[:Azarias Ruberwa]]? Someone claiming to be Ruberwa's social media manager has recently been editing the article, so it might be a good idea for some others to go over the edits and make sure they are in line with relevant policies and guidelines. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 08:29, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

== Nomination of [[:Portal:Donald Trump]] for deletion ==
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== Nomination of [[:Portal:Barack Obama]] for deletion ==
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== MP Brexit Position in Infobox ==

Hi All, first-time poster here. Just a quick suggestion. How do people feel about modifying the infoboxes of all (most) MP's to show their position on Brexit? A lot of the time when people want to know something about an MP, chances are, they want to know what their Brexit position is. At the moment, there is no clear way to tell what their views are on Brexit without scanning through parts of their bio. To me, at least, it just appears easier to have a simple field in their Infobox describing this. --[[User:Spacejunkjim|Spacejunkjim]] ([[User talk:Spacejunkjim|talk]]) 11:05, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

== RfC of possible interest ==

A [[Talk:Bill_Shorten#RfC:_Rape_allegation|request for comment]] regarding a rape allegation against Bill Shorten, an Australian politician, may be of interest to editors in this WikiProject. – [[User:Teratix|Tera]]'''[[User talk:Teratix|tix]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Teratix|₵]] 02:34, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

==Discussion at [[Talk:Adi Laufitu Malani#Requested move 3 October 2019]]==
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== Request for information on WP1.0 web tool ==

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the [[User:WP_1.0_bot|WP 1.0 Bot]]! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the [[:toolforge:enwp10/cgi-bin/pindex.fcgi|web tool]] that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

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== [[Benard Odoh]] ==

This article could use some attention from someone who's better acquainted with bios of politicians than I am. Thanks! --[[User:Randykitty|Randykitty]] ([[User talk:Randykitty|talk]]) 11:16, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

== Balance at ''[[Forced into Glory]]'' ==

{{FYI|pointer=y}}
Please see: {{section link|Talk:Forced into Glory#Balance: Conflict between Lincoln critics like Bennett, and critics of those critics}}.

The article (on a somewhat controversial biography of Abraham Lincoln) rarely has editors or even talk-page comments, so additional input is requested.  PoV issues with our article have been pointed out since 2009, and the off-site academic controversy involving the book's notable author, [[Lerone Bennett Jr.]], and his views about Lincoln and the Emancipation Proclamation goes back to the 1960s. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 23:01, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

== Judge Judy GAR ==

[[Judy Sheindlin]], an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Talk:Judy Sheindlin/GA1|reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. [[User:Nolelover|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nole</span>]] ''([[User talk:Nolelover|<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">chat</b>]]·[[Special:Contributions/Nolelover|<b style="font-family:courier; font-size:small">edits</b>]])'' 21:35, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

== RfC on political party of David Clarke (sheriff) ==

Please see here: [[Talk:David Clarke (sheriff)#RfC on political party]]. Your opinion is appreciated. <b>[[User:Jauerback|Jauerback]]</b><sup>[[User talk:Jauerback|dude?]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Jauerback|dude.]]</sub> 01:08, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

== [[Draft:Clay Jenkins]] ==

I am currently working on creating an article for the current [[Dallas County, Texas|Dallas County]] Judge, [[Draft:Clay Jenkins|Clay Jenkins]]. Feel free to help out! [[User:Bait30|<span style='color: #ffffff;background-color: #bf5700;'><b>&nbsp;Bait30&nbsp;</b></span>]]&nbsp;[[User Talk:Bait30|<sup><span style='color: #ffffff;background-color: #bf5700;'><b>''Talk 2 me pls''?</b></span></sup>]] 05:05, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

== Joe Biden ==

[[Joe Biden]], an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Joe Biden/1|reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. [[User:Aircorn|AIR<b style="color: green;">''corn''</b>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Aircorn|(talk)]] 23:40, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

==[[Kamala Harris]]==
I have serious problems with [[User:Bnguyen1114]]'s work on this and other article. They managed to increase the article size by 50%, and after I reverted part of their edits, they are now back at it, aiming maybe for 300k. Problems are laid out in edit summaries and on their talk page. In essence, it's excessive detail and the sourcing was problematic. Now they're adding secondary sourcing, but that was only part of the problem. Your assistance is appreciated. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 18:17, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

*What is the issue? The sourcing is quality. The information is accurate, and your claim that it is "excessive" is a judgment call. Senator Harris has had a long career with many career milestones. She's a historical figure in her own right in the state of California. The article is no less voluminous or detailed as the one that Governor Jerry Brown has, and abides by all rules. Please elaborate further on what your issue is. [[User:Bnguyen1114|Bnguyen1114]] ([[User talk:Bnguyen1114|talk]]) 18:55, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
**[[User:Bnguyen1114|Bnguyen1114]], please indent properly. Yes, it is a matter of judgment, and in none of your edits do I see that you have any editorial judgment at all. You insert just about every factoid you can, and you had to be told that we work by way of secondary sourcing here. In the meantime, you've gone right back to bloating up the article. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 14:43, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
***Before I began working on this article, the editors let stand four paragraphs devoted to a single campaign finance violation in 2003, still has the entirety of her tenure at the DA's office before she ran still up,  an entire paragraph detailing a single conversation with a protestor, complete with a quote about being embarrassed, and tons of misleading information about Steve Mnuchin. I followed the example of over-inclusion. If the concern is readability, I can pare it down and make it readable. It is unreasonable for people to expect me to know about standards they've made up for themselves and then reverting my hard work because they never told me about them. So, can I please get back to work, as an editor this time? [[User:Bnguyen1114|Bnguyen1114]] ([[User talk:Bnguyen1114|talk]]) 14:18, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
**Eh, Jerry Brown's article is 100k. This is 2,5 times the size. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 14:46, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
***All the bloat you speak of - settlement numbers, seizures, everything measurable? I can reduce whole paragraphs to a single sentence. No problem. [[User:Bnguyen1114|Bnguyen1114]] ([[User talk:Bnguyen1114|talk]]) 21:23, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
*It is worth mentioning that before I started working on this article (late April), you had entire articles, five paragraphs long, copy and pasted into her Campaign Finance violations in 2003. I pared it down and consolidated it with her 2003 campaigning. Why the sudden change in tact? There is so much misinformation ("She didn't prosecute Mnuchin!" was a section before I detailed the actual legal issues in that instance) out there about Senator Harris that she needs a thorough airing of her record. So what do you want to do about it? [[User:Bnguyen1114|Bnguyen1114]] ([[User talk:Bnguyen1114|talk]]) 18:59, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

== [[:O.P.S Bhadoria]] ==

Was wondering if someone from this task for could take a look at this article? The creator has been blocked per [[:WP:SOCK]] and the article has been tagged for speedy deletion per [[:WP:G5]]. The subject might meet [[:WP:NPOL]]; so, if someone feels the article should be kept，they will need to move quickly. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 00:48, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

== [[Talk:Jenny_Durkan#Deletion_of_controversies]] ==

Could someone look at the content issues there? Needs more discussion. --<b>[[User:Deepfriedokra|<span style="color:black">Deep</span><span style="color:red">fried</span><span style="color:DarkOrange">okra</span>]] [[User talk:Deepfriedokra|(<span style="color:black">talk</span>)]]</b> 09:20, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

== RE: Debate on creating a Chris Mullin disambiguation page (now it automatically leads to the basketball player) ==

Right now, the [[Chris Mullin]] page automatically leads to the basketball player - at the same time, there is a [[Chris Mullin (politician)]] - the one who led the fight to release the [[Birmingham Six]] and vote A Very British Coup (which was adapted to a TV series).

I've started a [[Talk:Chris Mullin#Requested move 22 August_2020|discussion]] on the talk page there, requesting to rename the basketball player page to [[Chris Mullin (basketball)]], and make the [[Chris Mullin]] page a disambiguation page with equal representation to both of them.

Arguments raised against my proposal:
* The basketball player has more views.

My main argument for the move:
* The basketball player gets most of his views from the US, while outside the US he's hardly known, and in Britain itself the politician-author Chris Mullin is much better known.

I invite you guys to take part in the discussion.

The link:
[[Talk:Chris Mullin#Requested move 22 August_2020]]. 

Thank you! [[User:Maxim.il89|Maxim.il89]] ([[User talk:Maxim.il89|talk]]) 19:44, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

== RFC about the ways to discuss Margot's gender identity ==

{{slink|Talk:Margot (activist)|RFC about the ways to discuss Margot's gender identity}} [[User:I dream of horses|I dream of horses]] [[Special:Contribs/I dream of horses|(Contribs)]] Please [[WP:NOTIFY|notify]] me after replying off my [[User talk:I dream of horses|talk page.]] Thank you. 20:19, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

== RfC about Nikolai Lukashenko ==

{{slink|Talk:Nikolai Lukashenko|Should content cited to social media posts and WP:OR be removed from this article?}} [[User:I dream of horses|I dream of horses]] [[Special:Contribs/I dream of horses|(Contribs)]] Please [[WP:NOTIFY|notify]] me after replying off my [[User talk:I dream of horses|talk page.]] Thank you. 23:47, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

== Style (Honorary Prefixes & Suffixes) ==

There have been multiple conflicting edits on the pages of many government officials, particularly United States judges, concerning the display of their honorary prefix (The Honorable). There seems to be a vague or split consensus on this issue, so here is the opportunity to state if you support displaying prefixes for American officials or not. Hopefully, a consensus can be reached, so please, discuss. ~ [[User:Fluffy89502|Fluffy89502]] ([[User talk:Fluffy89502|talk]]) 01:35, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

==Peer Review Request - [[Draft:Christopher Hollins]] ==

This individual has become a major political figure in Texas and around the Country, but the article is in need of additional peer reviews and revisions.  Please consider contributing and/or reviewing for approval. [[User:BostickLaw|BostickLaw]] ([[User talk:BostickLaw|talk]]) 15:16, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

== Question about handling "early life" and "personal life" sections ==

I am working on behalf of former U.S. Treasury Secretary [[Robert Rubin]] (my full disclosure is on the [[Talk:Robert_Rubin|talk page]] for his biographical article) and, due to my COI, I will not make any direct edits to the article. Recently I [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Robert_Rubin#Request_to_split_Family,_education,_and_early_career_into_separate_sections posted a request to split up the current ''Family, education, and early career'' section] to {{u|Graywalls|an editor}} who had made a handful of recent edits after I made my first suggestion on the talk page. However, they were uncertain on the best way to approach this particular subject matter, and besides which were ambivalent about taking my suggestions, given my COI. I am doubtful that there is specific guidance from WP:WPBIO about whether to consolidate or keep separate "early life" and "personal life" sections, but if I am wrong I figure this is a good place to ask, especially pertaining to biographies of former government officials. Anyone here reading this have any insight or perspective? I'll just close by adding that it's not my intention to insist on the exact words I have proposed, but to seek a resolution of the issues I've identified with the current structure. Thanks in advance, [[User:WWB_Too|WWB Too]] ([[User talk:WWB_Too|Talk]] · [[User:WWB_Too|COI]]) 18:35, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

{{re|WWB_Too}}
: Wikiprojects cities has structured guidelines for what section goes where, but biography seems to be rather open. I looked at [[George W. Romney]] (featured article) and good articles [[Charles Rangel]], and [[Bill Clinton]] to compare. I will sit back and wait for the comments on positioning as I am curious myself, but I think the extended details about the partner's career creds and children's partners and their heritage ought to be omitted. 

:From the Rangel article: 
<blockquote>Rangel met Alma Carter, a social worker, in the mid-late-1950s while on the dance floor of the Savoy Ballroom in Harlem. They married on July 26, 1964. They have two children, Steven and Alicia, and three grandsons.</blockquote>

:The version about children you're proposing for Robert Rubin and the strike-through is what I think should be omitted.: 
<blockquote>
Rubin is married to Judith Leah (Oxenberg) Rubin, who served as the New York City Commissioner of Protocol for four years<s> under Mayor David Dinkins and is the chairwoman of the board of trustees of Playwrights Horizons</s>. The Rubins have two grown sons, James ("Jamie") Rubin<s>, former Director of State Operations for New York Governor Andrew Cuomo,</s> and Philip Rubin.<s> Jamie is married to writer Gretchen Rubin.</s></blockquote>

[[User:Graywalls|Graywalls]] ([[User talk:Graywalls|talk]]) 19:45, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 November 11#File:Elbegdorj.JPG|Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 November 11 §&nbsp;File:Elbegdorj.JPG]]==
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== RfC on succession boxes on US presidential biographies (and the future of succession boxes) ==
<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg|48px|alt=|link=]]</div> An RfC is occurring at '''{{section link|Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)|Succession boxes for US Presidents}}''' that concerns the inclusion of succession boxes in articles about US presidents. The RfC's outcome may have implications for the future of succession boxes more generally. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the village pump. Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/207.161.86.162|207.161.86.162]] ([[User talk:207.161.86.162|talk]]) 07:57, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

==Adding the rest of the local politicians==
Can you guys add the rest of the local politicians. [[User:ArekSmith|ArekSmith]] ([[User talk:ArekSmith|talk]]) 02:02, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

== Infobox for Senator that never took office ==

I am looking for some help with [[Monroe Hayward]]. He died before taking the oath of office for the Senate, so I don't think it is accurate to say that he served a term in the infobox, or even to say that he was a Senator. At the same time, he indeed was the Senator-elect, so there should be something there. I am taking a look at the template used here, [[Template:Infobox officeholder]], and I can't see a parameter that would be very helpful. (There is a parameter for people like President-elect, but that seems to be for people that will take office in the future. He's dead, so no help there.) Maybe it shouldn't be changed. It's a low-traffic page and this is relatively minor, so it's not a big deal, but it does bug me. Any thoughts or direction? [[User:DoomLexus|DoomLexus]] ([[User talk:DoomLexus|talk]]) 00:20, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
*On a related note, is there a category that reflects people who were elected to office but died before their terms began, such as the aforementioned [[Monroe Hayward]]? I thought of this because [[Luke Letlow]], a Representative-elect from Louisiana, died this week. Another example would be astronaut [[Jack Swigert]], who was elected to Congress in 1982 but died before his term began. This is not the same as [[:Category:Politicians elected posthumously]], since these people were alive when elected but did not live to be sworn in. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User talk:Metropolitan90|(talk)]] 03:02, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
**I've just been informed of the creation of [[:Category:Elected officials who died without taking their seats]] within the last 24 hours. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User talk:Metropolitan90|(talk)]] 05:32, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

== Nomination for merging of [[Template:Infobox member of the Knesset]] ==
[[File:Information.svg|30px|alt=|link=]][[Template:Infobox member of the Knesset]] has been [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion|nominated for merging]] with [[Template:Infobox officeholder]]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 January 10#Template:Infobox member of the Knesset|'''the template's entry''' on the Templates for discussion page]]. Thank you.<!--Template:Tfmnotice--> [[User:Triggerhippie4|Triggerhippie4]] ([[User talk:Triggerhippie4|talk]]) 03:45, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

== Any input appreciated ==

I'm trying to get [[Huey Long]] up to FA status. It's been through GA, a peer review, and a FAN. Any general tips or advice on how I could improve it? Are any sections still too detailed or given undue weight? Don't worry about grammar - it's about to receive a ce from the guild. Thanks! ~ [[User:HAL333|<span style="background:red; color:white; padding:2px; border:1px solid red;">'''HAL'''</span>]][[User talk:HAL333|<span style="background:black; color:white; padding:2px; border:1px solid red;">'''333'''</span>]] 02:14, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

== RFC at WP:POLITICS, concerning succession boxes ==

See [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics#RFC: Succession boxes of US party nominees.|here]] for RFC concerning succession boxes in bios of US political bios. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 04:14, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

== Jamie Raskin section editwar ==

There's an [[Talk:Jamie Raskin#WP:OVERSECTION|ongoing discussion at Talk:Jamie Raskin]] about the title of his "Early life" section, the position of his "Publications" section, and ownership of the article in general. I think some outside voices might be helpful at this point. I don't have a strong opinion about it, I think "Publications" generally go at the end of articles, but mostly I would like the editwarring to stop. Raskin's article has seen a significant uptick in traffic this week due to his involvement in the impeachment.-- [[User:Patrickneil|Patrick]], [[User talk:Patrickneil|<sub>o</sub><small>Ѻ</small><sup>∞</sup>]] 00:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

== GA reassessment for [[Hugo Black]] ==

[[Hugo Black]], an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Hugo Black/1|reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. [[User:Extraordinary Writ|Extraordinary Writ]] ([[User talk:Extraordinary Writ|talk]]) 05:41, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

== Feedback requested at Augusto Pinochet ==

Hello, there's a discussion going on about removing an honorific from the Infobox at [[Augusto Pinochet]]. Your feedback would be appreciated at [[Talk:Augusto Pinochet#Honorific in Infobox]]. Thanks, [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 03:29, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

== Charles Edward Magoon at FAR ==

I have nominated [[Charles Edward Magoon]] for a [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/Charles Edward Magoon/archive1|featured article review here]]. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets [[Wikipedia:What is a featured article?|featured article criteria]]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are [[Wikipedia:Featured article review|here]].<!--Template:FARMessage--> [[User:RetiredDuke|RetiredDuke]] ([[User talk:RetiredDuke|talk]]) 13:41, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

==Jon Corzine Good Article Reassessment==
[[Jon Corzine]], an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Talk:Jon Corzine/GA2|reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. --[[User:Whiteguru|Whiteguru]] ([[User talk:Whiteguru|talk]]) 06:30, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2021 July 14#File:Jo Grimond.jpg|Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2021 July 14 §&nbsp;File:Jo Grimond.jpg]]==
[[File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg|25px|link=|alt=]]&nbsp;You are invited to join the discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2021 July 14#File:Jo Grimond.jpg|Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2021 July 14 §&nbsp;File:Jo Grimond.jpg]]. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 23:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)<!-- [[Template:Please see]] -->

==RfCs of interest==
{{FYI|pointer=y|1= RfCs are underway at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States Presidents]] concerning the removal or retention of US president series boxes at associated articles and the removal or retention of US vice-president series boxes at associated articles.}} 
*[[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States Presidents#Survey (Question 1 - president series boxes)]] with [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States Presidents#Discussion (Question 1 - president series boxes)|Discussion of president series boxes]], 
*[[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States Presidents#Survey (Question 2 - vice-president series boxes)]] with [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States Presidents#Discussion (Question 2 - vice-president series boxes)|Discussion of vice-president series boxes]]. [[User:Shearonink|Shearonink]] ([[User talk:Shearonink|talk]]) 22:45, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

==Notice of Featured Article Review==
I have nominated [[Malcolm X]] for a [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/Malcolm X/archive1|featured article review here]]. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets [[Wikipedia:What is a featured article?|featured article criteria]]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are [[Wikipedia:Featured article review|here]].<!--Template:FARMessage--> [[User:Z1720|Z1720]] ([[User talk:Z1720|talk]]) 16:13, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

== Political Party succession boxes. ==

The following succession boxes were removed from the page for [[Mike Pence]] a while back:

{{s-start}}
{{s-ppo}}
{{s-bef|before=[[Mitch Daniels]]}}
{{s-ttl|title=[[Republican Party (United States)|Republican]] nominee for Governor of Indiana|years=[[Indiana gubernatorial election, 2012|2012]], [[Indiana gubernatorial election, 2016|2016]] (withdrew)}}
{{s-aft|after=[[Eric Holcomb]]}}

{{s-bef|before=[[Paul Ryan]]}}
{{s-ttl|title=[[Republican Party (United States)|Republican]] [[List of United States Republican Party presidential tickets|nominee]] for Vice President of the United States|years=[[2016 United States presidential election|2016]], [[2020 United States presidential election|2020]]}}
{{s-inc|recent}}
{{s-end}}

Most other such officeholders have these types of party succession boxes. Should they be included?[[Special:Contributions/2601:241:300:B610:1D96:C3A3:A6E9:FDB4|2601:241:300:B610:1D96:C3A3:A6E9:FDB4]] ([[User talk:2601:241:300:B610:1D96:C3A3:A6E9:FDB4|talk]]) 04:53, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

==Notice of Featured Article Review==
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== I have proposed merging Media coverage of Bernie Sanders into Bernie Sanders ==

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bernie_Sanders#Merge_Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders_into_Bernie_Sanders [[User:Yleventa2|Yleventa2]] ([[User talk:Yleventa2|talk]]) 19:06, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

== FAR notice ==
I have nominated [[William Henry Harrison]] for a [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/William Henry Harrison/archive1|featured article review here]]. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets [[Wikipedia:What is a featured article?|featured article criteria]]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are [[Wikipedia:Featured article review|here]].<!--Template:FARMessage--> [[User:Sahaib3005|Sahaib3005]] ([[User talk:Sahaib3005|talk]]) 17:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

== MP for twenty years, but never spoke in Parliament: politician, yes or no ==

If [[Daniel Gooch|somebody]] is elected an MP, and held [[Cricklade (UK Parliament constituency)|the constituency]] for twenty years but never once addressed parliament, does that make them a politician? Does it warrant mention in the infobox and lead, or just in the body text? Please discuss at [[Talk:Daniel Gooch#MP]]. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 23:16, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

== Expelled status in infobox? ==

Is it appropriate to put "status=Expelled" in the Officeholder infobox of an elected official whose term is not yet over but they have been expelled from the body they were serving on? Please comment at [[Talk:Chaim Deutsch]]. [[User:GA-RT-22|GA-RT-22]] ([[User talk:GA-RT-22|talk]]) 15:27, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

== Good article reassessment of Alan Keyes ==
[[Alan Keyes]] has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Talk:Alan Keyes/GA1|reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. – [[User:Kavyansh.Singh|Kavyansh.Singh]] ([[User talk:Kavyansh.Singh|talk]]) 10:17, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

== Congressional slaveholder mini-project ==

I'll likely propose a project for a project on Congressional slaveholders as something to do for Black History Month based on data recently released by The Washington Post.  My early draft of the proposal is at The Signpost newsroom, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Black History Month]]

I'm also working on the format of a possible list article [[User:Smallbones/List of U.S. congressional slaveholders]]

If anybody wants to help or comment please contact me on my talk page or via email. [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]]<sub>([[User talk:Smallbones|<span style="color: #cc6600;">smalltalk</span>]])</sub> 17:06, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

== Two issues: RfC on use of sources and looking for a project on the Revolution/U.S. Founding ==

I have initiated an RfC on an editor's claim about a source he's using to declare 25+ individuals "Founding Fathers". So far, the RfC has generated input from just a couple editors - most of the comments are from me and the other editor. I would appreciate feedback from others. The relevance regarding WP Biographies is that the source in question is being used to add "Founding Father" to the biographies of the individuals in question with scant support from other sources.

On issue two, I am looking for a project that's focused on America's founding. Most of the biographies I mentioned above are in need of work, and while I'm perfectly willing to do substantial research and writing, collaboration is needed because of the size of this endeavor (upwards of 200 biographical articles) and then its importance to an understanding of the nation's beginnings.

Any and all feedback on the above would be most appreciated. [[User:Allreet|Allreet]] ([[User talk:Allreet|talk]]) 17:09, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

:The link to the RfC: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States#Request_for_comment_on_use_of_sources Request for comment on use of sources] [[User:Allreet|Allreet]] ([[User talk:Allreet|talk]]) 17:14, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

== FAR for [[Wesley Clark]] ==

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== RfC notification ==

A request for comment that may interest members of this project has been opened at {{slink|Talk:Donald Trump|RfC: Should the lead section have any citations?}}. ––[[User:FormalDude|<span style="color: #0151D2; font-family: Microsoft Sans Serif; letter-spacing: -.3px;">'''Formal'''{{color|black|'''Dude'''}}</span>]] <span style="border-radius:7em;padding:2.5px 3.5px;background:#005bed;font-size:76%">[[User talk:FormalDude|<span style="color:#FFF">'''talk'''</span>]]</span> 19:51, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

== WP:UNDUE and sourcing issues. ==

I'm notifying the wikiproject of an article in need of help here: {{slink|Talk:Charlotte Durante|The state of the article}}. [[User:I dream of horses|I dream of horses]] [[Special:Contribs/I dream of horses|(Contribs)]] [[User talk:I dream of horses|(Talk)]] 09:37, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

== Featured Article Review: Andrew Jackson ==

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==Move review for [[:Frank Mrvan]]==
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== Jefferson Davis FAR ==

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=== Featured Article Save Award for [[Jefferson Davis]] ===
There is a [[WP:FASA|Featured Article Save Award]] nomination at [[Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/Jefferson Davis/archive1]]. Please join the discussion to recognize and celebrate editors who helped assure this article would retain its featured status. [[User:SandyGeorgia|'''Sandy'''<span style="color: green;">Georgia</span>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]])  23:04, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

== Raymond A. Harris ==

A brief bio of a now dead politician still has a bio template on it. I [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ARaymond_A._Harris&type=revision&diff=1119643621&oldid=1111160290| opened a discussion], but someone here might want to be BOLD? [[User:LessHeard vanU|LessHeard vanU]] ([[User talk:LessHeard vanU|talk]]) 17:28, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

== Request for Comment about [[Kari Lake]] ==

There is a Request for Comment at {{slink|Talk:Kari Lake|Request for Comment: politician or political candidate?}} that may interest members of this WikiProject. Please participate at the talk page. ––[[User:FormalDude|<span style="color: #0151D2; font-family: Microsoft Sans Serif; letter-spacing: -.3px;">'''Formal'''{{color|black|'''Dude'''}}</span>]] [[User talk:FormalDude|<span style="color:#0151D2;font-family: Microsoft Sans Serif;font-size:90%;">'''(talk)'''</span>]] 07:50, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

== House of Councillors NSTV ==

Just wondering about creating infoboxes for members of the house of councillors. some are members of multi member districts but not STV. Im wondering what to put as the predecessors and successors for that politician [[User:TheHaloVeteran2|TheHaloVeteran2]] ([[User talk:TheHaloVeteran2|talk]]) 16:20, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

==[[Andry Rajoelina]]==
I have nominated [[Andry Rajoelina]] for GA Reassessment '''[[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Andry Rajoelina/1|here]]''' if you want to participate then please do. [[User:Onegreatjoke|Onegreatjoke]] ([[User talk:Onegreatjoke|talk]]) 18:29, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

==GAR notice==
[[Zachary Taylor]] has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Zachary Taylor/1|reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. [[User:Onegreatjoke|Onegreatjoke]] ([[User talk:Onegreatjoke|talk]]) 20:04, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

== Good article reassessment of Mauricio Macri ==

[[Mauricio Macri]] has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Talk:Mauricio Macri/GA3|reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. [[User:SeeAlsoPolice|SeeAlsoPolice]] ([[User talk:SeeAlsoPolice|talk]]) 22:32, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

== GAR of Eva Perón ==

{{Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Eva Perón/1}}

== [[:Category:Lists of heads of state]] ==

At [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lists#Category:Lists of heads of state]] I raised some issues about many "lists of heads of state / rulers / leaders of country X". Because [[:Category:Heads of state]] is within the scope of the Politics and government work group, some of you here might have valuable imput about how to solve these issues. Cheers, [[User:Nederlandse Leeuw|Nederlandse Leeuw]] ([[User talk:Nederlandse Leeuw|talk]]) 10:49, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

:PS: After some further reading and thinking, I came to the conclusion to nominate the [[:Category:Rulers]] as a whole for deletion: [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 February 4#Category:Rulers]]. I think this will be an important step towards solving many of the issues I have outlined. Your participation in the discussion would be appreciated. Cheers, [[User:Nederlandse Leeuw|Nederlandse Leeuw]] ([[User talk:Nederlandse Leeuw|talk]]) 16:18, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

== Sherman Minton Featured article review ==

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== Does [[Draft:Sam Lawrence (Ohio Politician)]] meet notability criteria ==

Is there a more specific page about notability criteria for this than [[WP:Notability (people)]] - draft written by [[User:AlreadyYeti|AlreadyYeti]] - does it meet notability criteria? - (I am a new draft reviewer and this is not my strong topic area) Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]], [[Special:EmailUser/Gryllida|e-mail]]) 23:25, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

== Is there a standardised way of showing donors to politicians in their articles? ==

Hi all

I'm interested in showing the donors to UK MPs and wondering if there is a standardised way of doing this beyond having a section called funders or something? Is there a recognised way to include this in the infoboxes?

Thanks

[[User:John Cummings|John Cummings]] ([[User talk:John Cummings|talk]]) 11:18, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

==Discussion of interest==
A discussion which may be of interest to the members of this group can be found [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Baldur_von_Schirach#WP:WEIGHT here]. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 22:50, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

== Question re listing of publications ==

Hi everyone - I'm wondering if publications on biographical pages of living individuals should be listed in a reverse chronological or chronological order? Thanks! [[User:W9793|W9793]] ([[User talk:W9793|talk]]) 00:54, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

== Featured article review ==

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== Why do British politicians have such long short descriptions? ==

The other day I was on the page for [[Ash Regan]] and noticed her short desc was "Alba Party politician", which struck me as oddly specific, so I changed that to simply "Scottish politician" — following what I'd come to expect. But as I looked around more British politican pages, this doesn't seem to be the template at all.

Looking at the [[Template:SNP MSPs|other SNP MSPs]] and clicking at random, backbenchers have "Scottish National Party politician", and cabinet ministers give their specific portfolio (eg: [[Angela Constance]]). It's not limited to the SNP and Scotland, either: [[Gavin Williamson]] is a "British Conservative poltician", [[Penny Mordaunt]] is "Leader of the UK House of Commons since 2022", [[David Lammy]] is "Shadow Foreign Secretary", and so on. (There ''are'' some who are just "British politician" — [[Michael Gove]] — but they are the rare exception.)

The thing is, I don't see this level of specificity elsewhere. I edit in the Canadian politics realm a lot, and Canadian politicians are always "Canadian politician", aside from heads of state — no partisan affiliation, no portfolio. I'm less familiar with Australia or New Zealand, but clicking through members of the [[Albanese ministry]] or [[Sixth Labour Government of New Zealand]], I only ever see "Australian politician" or "New Zealand politician" (with the single exception of [[Penny Wong]], for some reason…). So why are the UK short descs like this? Is there a consensus to do it this way?

A simple "[country] politician" description would certainly seem preferable, since it requires less maintenance (not having to edit it when someone changes parties, or gets shuffled to a new portfolio, etc). So should the UK bios be changed accordingly? I don't mean to suggest this is the most pressing issue and that we all need to chip in to fix it, or even that I'm about to go on a crusade changing them all, but I still think it'd be good to see where the community stands on this. — [[User:Kawnhr|Kawnhr]] ([[User_talk:Kawnhr|talk]]) 23:27, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

== Good article reassessment for [[Early life of Jan Smuts]] ==
[[Early life of Jan Smuts]] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Early life of Jan Smuts/1 |reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. [[User:Spinixster|<span style="color: #b22e3e; font-family: Elephant; ">Spinixster</span>]] [[User talk:Spinixster|<span style="font-family: Franklin Gothic Medium Cond; color: #b22e3e; font-size: 10pt;">''(chat!)''</span>]] 08:51, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

== [[René Lévesque]] RfC about lede ==

There is [[Talk:René_Lévesque#RFC:_How_should_René_Lévesque_be_described_in_the_lead?|an RfC occurring concerning the lede]] and whether Lévesque should be refered to as "Canadian politician" or a Québécois politician.-- [[User:Darryl Kerrigan|Darryl Kerrigan]] ([[User talk:Darryl Kerrigan|talk]]) 22:27, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

== [[John Wardlaw-Milne]] ==

Hi all. Just over from the Cricket Project. The above Conservative MP, who once tried to get a vote of no confidence against Churchill during WWII, also briefly played first-class cricket in India. I have recently expanded his article, but wouldn't mind trying to get him up toward GA (think FA might be a stretch). I've probably exhausted his cricket endeavours, and largely the same for his pre-politics career in India, but wondered if anyone would have a look at his political career and possibly be able to expand it? [[User:StickeyWicket|StickyWicket aka AA]] ([[User talk:StickeyWicket|talk]]) 17:02, 5 January 2024 (UTC)