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==Live Action Movie, Mitchell Paige==

The live action movie section is becoming a mess. It's coming off a little too POV. And what's this contract between Hasbro and Mitchell Paige? Any citation besides the opinion editorial that doesn't cite it either?  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/65.213.220.62|65.213.220.62]] ([[User talk:65.213.220.62|talk]]) 21:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Well, I ended up taking the Mitchell Paige part out since there seems to be no reliable source on the claim.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/65.213.220.62|65.213.220.62]] ([[User talk:65.213.220.62|talk]]) 19:20, 1 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

The misleading source could be the video "Guns of Valor" (A&E Home Video, American Rifleman Video Collection, 2001.) This has an interview where Mitchell Paige (then 80) makes this claim.  [[Mitchell_Paige]] leads to [[http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3656/is_199812/ai_n8818698]] stating that Hasbro honored Mr. Paige with a GI Joe likeness in a 1998 depiction of [[Medal of Honor]] winners.  The video also depicts Mr. Paige single-handedly counterattacking a large force of enemy soldiers.  That heroic act took place after reinforcements arrived.  Nothing honors Mr. Paige more than the facts.  [[User:Jimgettman|Jimgettman]] ([[User talk:Jimgettman|talk]]) 08:10, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

==Reorganization needed==
This article is good, but needs some major reorganization since it leads off with G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero which is only a later permutation of the action figure. It should lead off with the 12-inch war figures, then move on to the Adventure Team, then the 3 1/2 inch toys/comic book/cartoon, and end with the revival of both  and War-themed G.I. Joes in recent years. I plan to do the revision myself when time permits, but I thought I'd give those more closely involved with the creation of the article a chance to tackle it first. Cheers! [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 17:19, 7 August 2005 (UTC)


Check the header again; this article is only to do with the initial 12" release & 40th repros; The header says "GI Joe; Americas movable man of action", not "Real American Hero", which was introduced much later in the hasbro toy line.  It should not be merged with the main G I Joe page, as if you check the index there, there are separate categories for each variation/permutation of the GI Joe line.[[User:Hholland|Hholland]] 12:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

== The "Characters" section ==

There was a VFD debate about one of the characters, [[Fred VII]] ([[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Fred VII]]). I have tried adhering to the consensus there by merging an abbreviated version of that article with this article, but that has left a slightly awkward "Characters" section in the article. Hope somebody can do a better job of this than I can. [[User:Sjakkalle|Sjakkalle]] [[User talk:Sjakkalle|<small>(Check!)</small>]] 08:39, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

== Action Force merger ==

The Action Force article is in effect a subset of the [[Action Man]] line more than GI Joe.[[User:GraemeLeggett|GraemeLeggett]] 09:45, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

Essentially these articles (Action Force and G.I. Joe) should be merged just to show the evolution of G.I.Joe outside the United States, but a G.I is an american soldier, so it wouldnt go out of the US. Lol american hero dont think so [[User:Maya Levy|Maya Levy]]

== Fixed some ==

Well, I took the time to organize the Overview section. Renamed it Incarnations, just tell me if it's a bad idea or not. Did some editing, fixed some spellings and grammars. I have to say the first part looks better now but, yes, still needs lots of work.

Yes, I think this article needs to cover the G.I. Joe line as a whole from the 12" series to ARAH to Sigma 6. We can always add an article for each line of Joe that gives more information, just like Transformers.

== Fenslerfilm ==
Shouldn't there be some mention of the infamous fenslerfilm PSA's?  You know, Porkchop sandwiches and all that?
==Skip it ==
Looking at the history of the fig, shouldn't his "almost" incarnations be mentioned? As I heard it, he nearly came out as Skip the Frogman & Rocky the Marine Paratrooper. Also, give due cred to [[Gene Roddenberry]] (he rules!), writer on "The Lieutenant"...  [[User:Trekphiler|Trekphiler]] 23:59, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

The problem here is that whatever site they were hosted on would quickly fall.

== colin powel ==

when was colin powel in gi joe?

see Classic Collection: Historical Generals

== Can someone help me? ==

I'm not sure, but recently i saw my first G I Joe Cartoon/movie, i think it was called spy troops. Can someone correct me?

It had a new Gi Joe Character named "Faces", who was a master of disguise, and the plot featured around this technological helmet when inserted, the robots acted like the one who wore it, do you understand?

[[User:Pece Kocovski|Pece Kocovski]] 03:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

==Added a link to the comics section and added a character list page==
July 18th 2006 is when I'm writing this.
Network television stations in America were required to show so many hours of educational things per week.  So, GiJoe added a brief message at the end of each episode, so they could count the entire half hour as educational.

I edited "barded" to "bearded" because someone had a typo, but didn't bother the artical otherwise.

The first GiJoe cartoons were just a few specials they did, it later becoming a regular series.  Years after the first series ended, they had a new one with fewer characters and the theme song "Got to get tough".  It was nothing like the original series.

Someone really should create a link to all the characters, the episodes, and other things.  There is a lot of interesting information which isn't presented.  In fact, I'll go start that now.  edit... found they have a comics page already, and added a link to it from this artical.  Also added a new page for character list.

Since they weren't allowed to have beer in their shows, the gang member bad guys such as the Dreadnots, were obsessed with drinking grape soda in the comic book.
[[User:Dream Focus|Dream Focus]]

== Tuskegee Airmen ==


The [[Tuskegee Airmen]] article says there are Tuskegee Airmen GI Joes. Details? --[[User:Gbleem|Gbleem]] 12:18, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

== Classic Collection ==

I added images of Classic Collection boxes in my possession, but this was deleted? I'm new at this so the format of the page may not have met someone's standards, but a notice or suggestions would have been polite...

EDIT: My apologies. I didn't realize I had created just an image page, which is not allowed. I have rectified this.

==Masterpiece Edition==

I've added this to "incarnations", and created a page that illustrates this line.

also added Timeless Collection kaybee, target exclusives links to images, until a separate page just for TC is created.

[[User:Hholland|Hholland]] 01:20, 5 November 2006 (UTC) Removed store exclusive links, created separate TC page. Please add any details I've missed.

== G.I. stands for what? ==

I can't ever get a solid answer and the page doesn't mention. So far G can ether stand for General or Government and I can be ether Issue or Infantry. Anyone? [[User:Toxic Ninja|Toxic Ninja]] 00:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

:According to Wiktionary, [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/G.I. this] is what it stands for.  [[User:Sextiliana|Joe Webster]] 06:08, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

== Improved links ==

First of all, great article. Could links be improved ''within'' the text to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_man Action Man] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Man:_1993-2006 Action Man:1993-2006] pages? --[[User:Timetrial|Timetrial]] 14:18, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

== Definition of "G.I." and "G.I. Joe" ==

The origin of the term "G.I." is defined differently at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GI_%28military%29 

...as compared with its origin shown in the article for "G.I. Joe" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Joe

[[User:Sparky SunDevil|Sparky SunDevil]] 17:34, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

== Sheppard Lusk ==
Who is this Sheppard Lusk? [[User:Jeffrywith1e|Jeffrywith1e]] 23:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== The 60s ==
"Reinforced perhaps by the television series 'The Lieutenant'" -- sounds like a subjective opinion unless we have a reference to back it up. The popular WW2 action oriented "Combat!" series premiered a full year before "The Lieutenant", which only ran one season, was set in the modern era, and dealt more with personal issues of the main character than action.  If a television series was an influence on the GI Joe dolls, "Combat!" would seem more likely.  I was 12 when both shows were on and I never watched "The Lieutenant". [[User:MDonfield|MDonfield]] 16:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

==Article should not be flagged as "advertisement"==
It is inherently difficult to write about a toy line (and particularly new product releases, such as the 25th Anniversary line) in a manner that can't be construed as promotional, unless one goes out of one's way to emphasize criticism, which would itself be incorrect.  If no one can identify what exactly about the article makes it read like an advertisement, it should be unflagged.
[[User:Davismaximus|Davismaximus]] 19:53, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

== Kung Fu "Package...?" ==

In the '70s section of this article, there is a photo of a Joe's molded blue briefs that is labeled "Kung Fu package...?!"  What is up with that?  --[[User:Sextiliana|Joe Webster]] ([[User talk:Sextiliana|talk]]) 07:59, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

== Deleted Pop Culture ==

GI Joe, the figure and the show, are obviously extremely well-known and imbedded in American culture. To list everytime it was mentioned in a show or film is downright ridiculous. If a one-liner on Cheers meets the standard for inclusion then this list could be 5 times the size of the rest of the article. [[Special:Contributions/68.166.64.134|68.166.64.134]] ([[User talk:68.166.64.134|talk]]) 08:50, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


== Disambig and credit where it's due ==

I think there should be a disambig page or at least a link at the top of the page to the cartoon. I'd imagine most people who search for GI Joe aren't looking up the generic action figure from my great grandaddy's youth, they're looking up the profoundly culturally relevant and popular cartoon. Honestly, I find a "GI Joe" search coming directly to this page is laughable. At this point in time, the phrase "Cobra Commander" is alot more recognizable than "Kung-Fu Grip". A google search confirms that (420,000 to 520,000). This article is one spot ahead of the cartoon's article on a GI Joe google search. Considering a search of "GI Joe" links directly to this page and the highly unlikely possiblilty of users initially searching "GI JOE: A Real American Hero", I think it's obvious the vast majority of GI Joe searchers start here and end up on the cartoon's page, where they were trying to get to all along. [[Special:Contributions/68.166.64.134|68.166.64.134]] ([[User talk:68.166.64.134|talk]]) 09:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)