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=June 21=

== Signature ==

How do you make your signature all colorful? Because I want mine to be like red and be linked to my page than like blue and linked to my Talk Page. If anyone can help me out with that, please tell me.

--[[User talk:Piazzajordan2|Piazzajordan2]] 00:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:It needs to be customized with HTML style, but since you want to be all red/blue, just copy this:
::<tt><nowiki>&mdash;<font color="red">[[User:Piazzajordan2|Piazzajordan2]]</font> (<font color="blue">[[User talk:Piazzajordan2#top|Talk]]</font>)</nowiki></tt>

which produces:


&mdash;<font color="red">[[User:Piazzajordan2|Piazzajordan2]]</font> (<font color="blue">[[User talk:Piazzajordan2#top|Talk]]</font>)

[[Special:Contributions/Blow of Light|BoL]] ([[User talk:Blow of Light#top|Talk]]) 00:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

--—<font color="red">[[User:Piazzajordan2|Piazzajordan2]]</font> (<font color="blue">[[User talk:Piazzajordan2#top|Talk]]</font>) 00:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Watchlist ==
{{resolved}}<small>&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 03:31, 21 June 2008 (UTC)</small>
Hello.  Seemingly whenever I edit a page, that page gets added to my watchlist.  I figured this must be an optional setting somewhere, so I looked around and found something that appears to be that under My Preferences-Watchlist.  I set all of the boxes there to be not-selected and saved it, but any pages I edit still get added to my watchlist, so I'm not sure that that's the right place after all.  Is there another place I need to change the settings at?  Thanks in advance. [[User:Rnb|Rnb]] ([[User talk:Rnb|talk]]) 00:32, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:Well after saving your preferences you'll need to bypass your cache, in firefox: ctrl + clicking refresh button, internet explorer: ctrl + F5. Hope it helps. [[User:Sunderland06|<font color="red">'''Sunderland06'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Sunderland06|talk]]) 00:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:I see from your monobook.js that you are using [[WP:TW|Twinkle]]. I think the default setting in Twinkle is to mark every page that you edit using Twinkle as watched. The default setting can be changed -- see the Twinkle pages for details.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 00:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, it was Twinkle!  Thanks so much for your help. [[User:Rnb|Rnb]] ([[User talk:Rnb|talk]]) 00:56, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::No problem.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 03:31, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Odd topics appearing in my Watchlist ==

Every few months or so, I find some weird topics in my watchlist that I did not place there.  I have changed my password, and yet they have still appeared.  Are these being added because of my interest in a certain topic, or is this some sort of random vandalism?  And how do I stop it from happening? [[User:FMPhoenixHawk|FMPhoenixHawk]] ([[User talk:FMPhoenixHawk|talk]]) 01:31, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

:If a page is moved, whether it's because of vandalism or otherwise, it will show up in your watchlist, even after the vandalism has been undone. In other words, if you are watching [[George Washington]], and someone moves it to [[SuperDork]], SuperDork will still show up in your watchlist even after the page is moved back. I don't think there is really a way to "stop" this, you just have to manually remove the unwanted pages from your watchlist from time to time. [[User:AlexiusHoratius|AlexiusHoratius]] ([[User talk:AlexiusHoratius|talk]]) 01:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

==My Userboxes==
Last thing can somebody make it so they are not scrollable. I want them just straight, no curve. Thank you. :)

--—<font color="red">[[User:Piazzajordan2|Piazzajordan2]]</font> (<font color="blue">[[User talk:Piazzajordan2#top|straight chillin]]</font>) 02:01, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:Your userbox section had this odd bit of code: <code><nowiki><div style="height: 1000px; overflow: auto;"></nowiki></code>  which 1) wasn't closed, 2)added the scrollbars you didn't want, 3) isn't doing anything constructive.   If you get rid of this line, I believe it will work as you expect.   <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- [[User:Shinmawa|ShinmaWa]]<sup>([[User_talk:Shinmawa|talk]])</sup></font> 02:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, it worked.

--—<font color="red">[[User:Piazzajordan2|Piazzajordan2]]</font> (<font color="blue">[[User talk:Piazzajordan2#top|straight chillin]]</font>) 02:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Surnames ==

Where can I find some guidelines on how these kinds of pages should be set up? I've been treating them like dab pages, but now I'm not so sure that that's the right way to go. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 05:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:I think that disambig pages is the way to go here, from other examples that I've found such as [[Smith]] and [[Jones]]. For unusual surnames, a ''List of...'' article might be an idea, but I think that in the main disambig pages work as a startpoint for a valid search term. Hope this helps, '''''<font color="green">[[User:Gazimoff|Gazimoff]]</font>''''' <sup><font color="blue">[[User talk:Gazimoff|Write]]</font></sup><sub><font color="black">[[Special:Contributions/Gazimoff|Read]]</font></sub> 05:10, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

::Personally I would prefer to see actual articles on surnames rather than just dabs, especially for those that are very common. Surely their derivation, popularity etc would make enough content for at least a brief article.

::Actually, I see that this is the case for some such as [[Smith (surname)]]. It looks like [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Anthroponymy]] is the best place to go for guidance or discussion. [[User:Richard001|Richard001]] ([[User talk:Richard001|talk]]) 11:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Copyright question - sketches of copyrighted images ==

I'd like to get a quick answer to a copyright question: is it okay for people to make their own renditions of copyrighted images and upload them under a free license of their choice (or public domain)? I ask because, though it seems absurd to me that such work could be a copyright infringement, I'm aware that the status of [[fan art]] is controversial and that we don't allow it for copyrighted work, even though the renditions of e.g. characters are original themselves. Having people make free images in this way from copyrighted ones would allow us to use free use where it would otherwise be impossible in some cases, though I suspect that it will be difficult to find people to make such images (we don't have people making even requests for simple graphs and such, let alone making e.g. a hand sketch of someone. [[User:Richard001|Richard001]] ([[User talk:Richard001|talk]]) 11:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:You appear to be describing [[derivative work]]s -- one cannot acquire the rights to a work by simply reproducing or modifying it. Just as a screenshot of [[Terminator 2]] could not exist without the movie to base it on, no sketch of [[Pikachu]] could exist without the original character. While it is true that many pieces of fan art are protected by [[fair use]], it's important to note that fair use is not [[free use]]. &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">[[User:Luna Santin|<font color="#1E90FF">'''Luna Santin'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]])</span> 12:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:Quick answer is NO.  To avoid creating a [[derivative work]], you must create some transformative change.  In wikipedia, this would be allowed as per [[Wikipedia:No original research]].  So the long answer to the long question is also no.  --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 12:21, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::If it's a ''character'' like Pikachu, then no, but what about a photograph of a person? What if the drawing isn't exactly like the photograph, but just used to get an idea of what they look like? A ''person'' certainly isn't copyrighted, hence it being okay to upload a photograph of them that you have taken. What if it is based on multiple images? You can see that there is a continuum here between a derivative work involving some artistic skill but little creativity and one involving much more creativity. [[User:Richard001|Richard001]] ([[User talk:Richard001|talk]]) 23:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Infobox capitalisation ==

In infoboxen, should the the first letter of the line you type in a given field be capitalized? e.g. should a caption in {{tl|Infobox Book}} begin "cover of the first edition" or "Cover of the first edition"; '''genre:''' [[Fiction]], nonfiction, ''foo'' or '''genre:''' [[fiction]], nonfiction, ''foo''? <font color="404040">[[User talk:Skomorokh|<font face="Garamond" color="black">Skomorokh</font>]]</font> 13:19, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

:Image captions should start with a capitalized word; see [[Wikipedia:Captions]].  In general capitalize the first word in a field.  There may be other guidelines in the infobox documentation.  --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup></font></b> - </i> 13:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)   --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup></font></b> - </i> 13:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

::Danke. <font color="404040">[[User talk:Skomorokh|<font face="Garamond" color="black">Skomorokh</font>]]</font> 19:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Claim the anonymous contributions ==

Is that possible to claim back the anonymous (IP address referred) contributions that a user made before using a registered username? --[[User:Phlyming|Phlyming]] ([[User talk:Phlyming|talk]]) 13:55, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:Not in any very formal or technical way. You can certainly put a note on your userpage or something like that. [[User talk:Algebraist|Algebraist]] 13:57, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::How will the anonymous contributions be counted then? --[[User:Phlyming|Phlyming]] ([[User talk:Phlyming|talk]]) 15:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::There's no way to "count" them with any sort of tool.  <font face="jokerman">[[User:Corvus cornix|<span style="color:green">Corvus cornix</span>]]<sub>''[[User talk:Corvus cornix|<span style="color:Green">talk</span>]]''</sub></font> 23:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:This actually ''used'' to be done, but not nowadays.  You can read up on the history at [[Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit]], if you like.  --<font color="#0000ff">[[User talk:Grey Knight|<sub>tiny plastic</sub> Grey Knight]]</font> <font color="#777777">[[User:tiny plastic Grey Knight|&#x2296;]]</font> 16:55, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Removing unencyclopedic image. ==

On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_System_divestiture 
there is a "humerous" cartoon that doesn't add anything to the article and i want to remove it or at least change the caption. I know "Be Bold" but i still like to get a second opinion on decisions. What Tag should i add to the page to get someone else to look at it? Maybe someone can make a case for keeping that comic. 
[[User:HawkShark|HawkShark]] ([[User talk:HawkShark|talk]]) 13:59, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

:Discuss this on the article talk page so that involved editors are included.  --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup></font></b> - </i> 15:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::I hope the cartoon can be kept, but the {{tl|PD-self}} tag is doubtful. —[[User:TEB728|teb728]] [[User talk:TEB728|t]] [[Special:Contributions/TEB728|c]] 00:04, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

==Personal attacks==

Hi, could you point me in the right direction, please, to read up on what constitutes a 'personal attack' and perhaps report someone. Thankyou.--'''[[User:seahamlass|<font color="black">seahamlass</font>]]''' 14:31, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:Personal attacks are defined at [[WP:NPA]]. If someone is chronically attacking you, [[WP:AN/I|the administrator's incident noticeboard]] is probably the place to go. [[User:Paragon12321|Paragon12321]] ([[User talk:Paragon12321|talk]]) 14:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:After a quick look at your contribution list, I'm going to assume this is about [[User talk:81.156.126.17‎]]. Both of you are getting close to crossing the line. I would suggest dispute resolution. As this is a content dispute, how about the [[WP:Mediation Cabal|Mediation Cabal]]? [[User:Paragon12321|Paragon12321]] ([[User talk:Paragon12321|talk]]) 14:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yes, [[WP:Mediation Cabal|Mediation Cabal]] might be helpful. Thankyou. Not yet though, I'm hoping that it might just fizzle out as is a anon IP.--'''[[User:seahamlass|<font color="black">seahamlass</font>]]''' 14:58, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== WP fair usage licensing authentication for properly licensed flickr images placed on commons. ==

On June 13th at [[Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2008_June_13#Licensing_review]] I askeda about a wikipedia analogue to the commons {{tl|flickrreview}} template. Apparently, my original posting was confusing because I did not explain that the template is used on commons to signify that an image is in need of licensing authentication.  I posted the notice when I was requested to move [[:Image:Paintings below zero'.jpg]], [[:Image:Paintings below zero from front'.jpg]], and [[:Image:Boeing North Gallery'.jpg]] from Commons to WP because they are fair use art.  The purpose is of my request is to get some authentication tha the images where properly licensed at the time of WP upload so that if in the future their tag gets changed at Flickr, we are not forced to delete them.  There is currently debate at ''[[Cloud Gate]]'' about the propriety of images being used from commons.  Yesterday, someone removed many images and I replaced them saying I was willing to move them to WP and add fair usage rationales if necessary.  However, any image that is moved over is at risk of being lost unless WP has some sort of licensing authentication system.  Please advise.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 16:00, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Can't find an article ==

What's it called when somebody makes a facial on themselves? I've heard it been described as a self facial, self bukkake, and even diy bukkake but i cant find an article for any of these. Perhaps it's under another name?  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/79.77.227.18|79.77.227.18]] ([[User talk:79.77.227.18|talk]]) 17:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:[[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] '''This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the [[Wikipedia:Reference desk]]'''.  They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try {{Google wikipedia||searching Wikipedia}} for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps.  I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'makes a facial on themselves', though.  Please '''[[WP:SIG|sign your post]]''' by typing four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: [[Image:Signature_icon.png]].  '''Do NOT sign in [[WP:WIAA|articles]].'''<span style="cursor: crosshair">......[[User: Dendodge|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#008000"> Dendodge</em>''']] .. <small>[[User talk:Dendodge|Talk]]</small><sup>[[User:Dendodge/Help|Help]]</sup></span> 17:17, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::Based on the reference to bukkake, I think this user was just trolling.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 19:22, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== New user ==

Hi there! I'm a new users. I've made some edits. Can anyone explain me about Wikipedia? Cheers! [[User:The gen-X|The gen-X]] ([[User talk:The gen-X|talk]]) 17:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

:Hello there and welcome! I've replied on your [[User talk:The gen-X|talk page]] with links to a stack of information to get you started, including how Wikipedia works and some tutorials to help get you started. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. Hope this helps!'''''<font color="green">[[User:Gazimoff|Gazimoff]]</font>''''' <sup><font color="blue">[[User talk:Gazimoff|Write]]</font></sup><sub><font color="black">[[Special:Contributions/Gazimoff|Read]]</font></sub> 17:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Submission offering ==

I have spent over an hour attempting to create an account so I can offer a nice 1924 photograph for your page <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_aerial_circumnavigation#Aircraft_and_crew> but gave up after typing in over a dozen of the deformed characters that pop up.  In trying to read how to submit and the rules, FAQ's, Help, etc. I cannot spend any more time.  If you would like this picture, tell me where I can send the picture for you to use or not.

Thanks,
[[Special:Contributions/71.123.31.13|71.123.31.13]] ([[User talk:71.123.31.13|talk]]) 17:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
: Hey, if you need help with making an account, that's what [[Wikipedia:Request an account]] is for! But even afterward, you must stay for 4 days and make 10 edits in order to be able to upload pictures (this is to prevent [[WP:VAND|vandalism]], which happens here way more often that most think). I would suggest doing that and uploading the image yourself, but beware of all the various image and copyright policies... if you don't want to, create an account (or have it created for you), and [[WP:EMAIL|email]] the image to another, more experienced user to upload it for you. [[User:Calvin 1998|Calvin 1998]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:Calvin 1998|t]]-[[Special:Contributions/Calvin 1998|c]])</sup> 17:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Nbsp inside template parameter ==

I've been trying to modify a select group of templates (namely [[wp:redirect templates|redirect templates]]) so that, by default, they have a bunch of text that includes a non-breaking space and horizontal rule, like this:
&nbsp;
----
but when a certain argument is given, I want the presented template to simply give the text after a bullet,
*like this.
So far, I've found that, even if the argument is given, only the "argument-free" version appears.
Here's a simple example: I want it so that if I enter <code><nowiki>{{R from London bus|embed=yes}}</nowiki></code>, the result is the part of {{tl|R from London bus}} that says "'''[[Template:R from London bus|London bus]]:''' The target article is about one or more London bus routes." Instead, I always get the part that says "This is a [[wp:redirect|redirect]] to an article about one or more [[London bus|bus routes in London]]. It is therefore sorted into [[:Category:Redirects from London bus routes]]."

I figure the problem has something to do with either the nbsp or some other line break in the template's somewhat complicated structure. Any ideas? <math>\sim</math> [[User:Lenoxus|Lenoxus]] [[User talk:Lenoxus|" * "]] 18:16, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:Try <nowiki>{{redirect|London Bus}}</nowiki>. If that doesn't work I'll see what I can do. --<font face="Lucida Console">[[User:G2.0 USA|G2.0]] [[User talk:G2.0 USA|USA]] <sup> [[Special:Contributions/G2.0 USA|contributions]] </sup></font> 20:56, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

:I changed the template, using ifeq.--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] ([[User talk:Patrick|talk]]) 00:28, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== Wood carving patterns ==
I want to design wood carving patterns for chip carving18:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)~  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.105.190.50|71.105.190.50]] ([[User talk:71.105.190.50|talk]]) </small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:We have articles on [[wood carving]] and [[chip carving]]. --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup></font></b> - </i> 19:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== blood types ==
<small>Comment moved to [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science#Blood types]]</small>

== Cannot use IRC ==
I can not use '''any''' IRC channels inside or  outside of Wikipedia because I use [[Safari]] web browser for Mac OS X. It wil not support the irc:// protocol.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Frogger3140|Frogger3140]] ([[User talk:Frogger3140|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Frogger3140|contribs]]) 20:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)--[[User:Frogger3140|Ωfrogger3140Ω2 omega]] ([[User talk:Frogger3140|talk]]) 20:21, 21 June 2008 (UTC)</small>
:Sorry I fail to see the question. Are you asking why it won't work? Or how to fix it? Thanks, [[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 20:22, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::How to fix it? --[[User:Frogger3140|Ωfrogger3140Ω2 omega]] ([[User talk:Frogger3140|talk]]) 20:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't know if it works on Safari, but try [[Chatzilla]]<span style="cursor: crosshair">......[[User: Dendodge|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#008000"> Dendodge</em>''']] .. <small>[[User talk:Dendodge|Talk]]</small><sup>[[User:Dendodge/Help|Help]]</sup></span> 20:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::Or [http://mibbit.com Mibbit]. --<font face="Lucida Console">[[User:G2.0 USA|G2.0]] [[User talk:G2.0 USA|USA]] <sup> [[Special:Contributions/G2.0 USA|contributions]] </sup></font> 20:58, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:I didn't know any internet browsers supported IRC? For Mac OS X, the two best chat clients are [[XChat|X-Chat Aqua]], and [[Colloquy (IRC client)]]. I prefer XChat, since it always works for me. In XChat, if you want to join wikipedia's IRC channels, type /server irc.freenode.net/wikipedia and then /join #wikipedia, or whichever channel you want to join. Also, this might have been a good question to ask at the [[WP:Reference desk/Computer|Computing Reference Desk]]. [[User:Mac Davis|Mac Davis]] ([[User talk:Mac Davis|talk]]) 01:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== Forcing the first section to not begin until TOC ends ==

This is a pretty straight forward template, but I can't find it after a while of searching. Sorry for such an obvious question. [[User:Lethesl|<font face="arial" color="#C71585">''Leth''</font>]][[User talk:Lethesl|<font face="arial" color="#DA70D6">''esl''</font>]] 22:07, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:It ''should'' do that by default<span style="cursor: crosshair">......[[User: Dendodge|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#008000"> Dendodge</em>''']] .. <small>[[User talk:Dendodge|Talk]]</small><sup>[[User:Dendodge/Help|Help]]</sup></span> 22:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::Do you mean {{tl|clear}}? [[User:Matthewedwards|Matthewedwards]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Matthewedwards|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Matthewedwards|contribs]]&nbsp;<small>•</small> [[Special:Emailuser/Matthewedwards|email]]) 22:10, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:The problem is with this article: [[List of cathedrals in the United Kingdom]] - the contents box is interrupting the table in a really ugly way, but it only has a right allignment set - or is that what is causing the problem? [[User:Lethesl|<font face="arial" color="#C71585">''Leth''</font>]][[User talk:Lethesl|<font face="arial" color="#DA70D6">''esl''</font>]] 22:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::Did a preview edit, clear worked! Thank you! [[User:Lethesl|<font face="arial" color="#C71585">''Leth''</font>]][[User talk:Lethesl|<font face="arial" color="#DA70D6">''esl''</font>]] 22:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== showing "bytes changed" in [[Special:Contributions]] ==

Is there a user script, user style, or user preferences that will show the number of bytes changed (as seen in My Watchlist) in My Contributions? Can I also see this information in the Page History (if I'm too lazy to do the subtraction between diffs myself)? - [[User:SigmaEpsilon|SigmaEpsilon]] → [[User_talk:SigmaEpsilon|Σ]]<span class="plainlinks">[http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=SigmaEpsilon&amp;site=en.wikipedia.org Ε]</span> 23:05, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:If each character is the same number of bits, why do you ask? There can be no difference unless you want the script to calculate how many bytes image thumbnails and audio add. If a character is 8 bytes, then just multiply the number of characters by 8. [[User:Mac Davis|Mac Davis]] ([[User talk:Mac Davis|talk]]) 01:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::Huh? Page History shows the total size of each revision. My Contributions shows no size info at all. I'm interested in the change in size (bytes or chars, it doesn't matter) between revisions. I'm not sure what you mean by "bits". File size is never measured in individual bits (and chars are almost always one byte, or sometimes two bytes). The size of images and audio files  is irrelevant to me. I only care about change in size from one revision to the next. History and Contribs do not indicate this. - [[User:SigmaEpsilon|SigmaEpsilon]] → [[User_talk:SigmaEpsilon|Σ]]<span class="plainlinks">[http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=SigmaEpsilon&amp;site=en.wikipedia.org Ε]</span> 03:18, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== Account Age ==

How can I find out how old my account is?  Thanks, [[User:Zrs_12|Ζρς ι'β']] <sup><u>[[User_talk:Zrs_12|¡hábleme!]]</u></sup> 23:38, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

:User creation log [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Zrs_12 here], which indicates your account is about six months old. Best, [[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 23:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::Your first edit was on [[January 28]], [[2008]]. [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=2000&target=Zrs+12&month=&year=] [[User:Matthewedwards|Matthewedwards]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Matthewedwards|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Matthewedwards|contribs]]&nbsp;<small>•</small> [[Special:Emailuser/Matthewedwards|email]]) 23:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Good, thank you both.  That's what I needed. :) [[User:Zrs_12|Ζρς ι'β']] <sup><u>[[User_talk:Zrs_12|¡hábleme!]]</u></sup> 23:43, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


= June 22 =

==iTunes question==
MY question is this. I would like too know how do i move my itune music to my media player on my computer. I have a MP3 player that I would like to put my music from my Itunes library on my MP3 player which is not an ipod product. Please help figure this out for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.69.57.154|69.69.57.154]] ([[User talk:69.69.57.154|talk]]) 00:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:[[Image:P computing.svg|20px]] '''This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing|Computing reference desk]]'''.  They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try {{Google wikipedia||searching Wikipedia}} for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps. [[User talk:Xenon54|Xenon]][[User:Xenon54|54]] 00:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::You'd have to go to my computer, open the file for the MP3 up then place the files into your iTunes library, but you can't just drag and drop the file into the iTunes interface.  Then drag the files into the iTunes interface from your iTunes library. [[User:Yamakiri|<font color="Green">Yamakiri</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Yamakiri|T]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Yamakiri|C]]</sub>   <span title="You are here: Yamakiri"><font color="#000000"><span class="plainlinks" id="purgelink">[{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}} §]</span></font></span>  '''06-22-2008 • 00:43:29'''
:If you can't find the audio files on your MP3 player, they are probably [[hidden files]]. [[User:Mac Davis|Mac Davis]] ([[User talk:Mac Davis|talk]]) 01:41, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== flight ==

how do planes create the flight required  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/117.195.130.68|117.195.130.68]] ([[User talk:117.195.130.68|talk]]) 02:27, 22 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I think the article [[Lift (force)]] should be able to get you started. Hope this helps, '''''<font color="green">[[User:Gazimoff|Gazimoff]]</font>''''' <sup><font color="blue">[[User talk:Gazimoff|Write]]</font></sup><sub><font color="black">[[Special:Contributions/Gazimoff|Read]]</font></sub> 02:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== Trying to fix a page transclusion error ==

I've been tweaking [[Portal:Weather/Featured content]] for a few weeks now trying to get it to work but I can't.  The box looks fine when you go to [[Portal:Weather/Featured content|the page directly]] in all browsers.  In the context of [[Portal:Weather]] on which it is transcluded, it looks fine in Mozilla Firefox, but when I use Internet Explorer, the "show" and "hide" boxes get all out of alignment when you click them.  Does anyone know what might be causing it/how it might be fixed?-<b><font color="black">[[User:Runningonbrains|Running]]</font><font color="blue">[[WP:METEO|On]]</font><font color="green">[[User talk: Runningonbrains|Brains]]</font></b> 05:15, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

:Not sure what the problem is.  You are reinventing the wheel here— {{tl|navbox with columns}} would work well for this application. --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup></font></b> - </i> 12:16, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:Here is an example.  With border=child, the navbox will automatically fit inside another template:

{{Navbox with columns
|name  = Help desk
|title = [[WP:Featured articles|Featured articles]]
|colwidth=22.5%
|border=child
|state=collapsed

|col1width=width:8%
|col1=[[Image:Featured article star.svg|60px]]

|col2= 
*[[1933 Atlantic hurricane season]]
*[[1995 Pacific hurricane season]]
*[[1999 Sydney hailstorm]]
*[[2005 Atlantic hurricane season]]
*[[Climate of India]]
*[[Climate of Minnesota]]

|col3= 
*[[Cyclone Elita]]
*[[Extratropical cyclone]]
*[[Eye (cyclone)]]
*[[Global warming]]
*[[Hurricane Iniki]]
*[[Hurricane John (1994)]]

|col4= 
*[[Hurricane Katrina]]
*[[Hurricane Mitch]]
*[[Meteorological history of Hurricane Wilma]]
*[[Surface weather analysis]]
*[[Tornado]]

|col5= 
*[[Tropical cyclone]]
*[[Typhoon Paka]]
*[[Winter service vehicle]]
*[[Yellowstone fires of 1988]]
*'''[[:Category:FA-Class meteorology articles|More weather-related Featured Articles...]]'''
}}
:::Ok, that doesnt look too bad, but when I changed [[Portal:Weather/Featured content]] to include {{tl|Navbox with columns}}, it appeared outside of the box it was supposed to appear in at [[Portal:Weather]] (I don't have access to firefox right now so I'm not sure if this is still just an IE7 problem). I think I may just abandon the "hide" option and just choose shorter lists.-<b><font color="black">[[User:Runningonbrains|Running]]</font><font color="blue">[[WP:METEO|On]]</font><font color="green">[[User talk: Runningonbrains|Brains]]</font></b> 06:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== <nowiki><span id="43_—_George_Walh"/></nowiki> ==

What does <nowiki><span id="43_—_George_Walh"/></nowiki> do?[[Special:Contributions/68.148.164.166|68.148.164.166]] ([[User talk:68.148.164.166|talk]]) 09:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:It creates a span, gives it the id 43_—_George_Walh, and immediately closes it. See [[Help:HTML in wikitext#Span]]. Presumably that id is referred to by something else. [[User talk:Algebraist|Algebraist]] 11:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::And see [[WP:EIW#Naviga]] and [[Help:Anchors]]. You could [[Help:Link|link]] to the location of that span tag with the [[wikitext]]: <code><nowiki>[[#43_-_George_Walh]]</nowiki></code> on the same page, or by appending <code><nowiki>#43_-_George_Walh</nowiki></code> to the page [[URL]]. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 16:17, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

==ITALIAN==

I'm italian; Can I translate the texts? When I can translate this? --[[User:Paperone94|Paperone94]] ([[User talk:Paperone94|talk]]) 12:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:If you mean translate articles from Italian to English, you are certainly welcome to do that. You can translate articles from the Italian Wikipedia, or, there are articles [[WP:Articles needing translation|here]] that may need translation from Italian. If you would like to translate articles from English to Italian, you're welcome to do that as well, but please review the [[GDFL]] first. Cheers! <b><font color="darkorange">[[User:Tnxman307|TN]]</font>‑<font color="darkblue">[[User talk:Tnxman307|X]]</font>-<font color="red">[[Special:Contributions/Tnxman307|Man]]</font></b> 13:22, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::See the links under [[WP:EIW#Translate]] for additional information about translation work between the various [[Wikimedia Foundation]] [[wiki]]s. Check out the [[Italian Wikipedia]]. In many cases when an [[WP:WIAA|article]] appears in the [[English Wikipedia]], the topic would be suitable for an article in the [[Italian Wikipedia]], and vice versa. If articles already exist in both languages, you could check to see that they link to each other (see: [[Help:Interlanguage links]] for instructions), and that information present in one is present in the other. If an article exists in one language and not the other, you could create the missing article and translate it from the existing one. See {{Tl|Google translation}} for a [[machine translation]] tool that can create a rough translation which you would then improve with your human language skills. Starting with a machine translation can save work. Sometimes translating an article also requires you (or someone else) to copy and translate [[Help:Template|templates]] that the article [[WP:TRANSCLUDE|transcludes]]. Sometimes that job is technically demanding, and you might need help from other Wikipedia users. It would be easier to start by comparing pairs of articles that already exist in both languages, and then you could translate the material in one that is missing in the other. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 16:28, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== FORECLOSURE ==

WHAT HAPPENS IF MY HOUSE GOT FORCLOSED AND I DID NOT TELL MY RENTERS AND WHEN THEY MOVE OUT THEY TOOK MY APPLIANCES  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/135.214.154.104|135.214.154.104]] ([[User talk:135.214.154.104|talk]]) 15:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:This page is for questions about using Wikipedia only, please go to the [[WP:REFDESK|reference desk]] for real life questions although I am not sure if the people over there would be able to help you much either; as due too liability we are prohibited from giving legal or medical advice (see [[Wikipedia:Legal disclaimer]]). [[User:Icewedge|— Icewedge]] ([[User talk:Icewedge|talk]]) 15:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::Also, please do not capitalize all the letters in your messages because it is considered yelling which is frowned upon here at [[Wikipedia:About|Wikipedia]]. Thanks, [[User:RyRy5|<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy5</font>]] ('''''[[User talk:RyRy5|<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk</font>]]''''') 06:15, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Contributing material ==

Not so much a question as a comment: I have several photos taken of Palazzo Venezia (and many other places mentioned in Wiki) that I'd be happy to contribute, but it is so difficult, I've given up. I registered, then was asked to upload to Wiki Commons that required a new log in with new user name, password. It's simply not worth the time and trouble it takes to contribute images to Wiki. Sorry I couldn't help.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Kwildgen|Kwildgen]] ([[User talk:Kwildgen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kwildgen|contribs]]) 17:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Hi Kwilogen. You can now use [[Special:MergeAccount]] which unifies your login on all Wikimedia projects. That saves having to create an account for each project. Best, [[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 17:28, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== Where do I find all the food articles? ==

Is there a directory somewhere to find and list all the food articles or articles related to food? My area of expertise and interest is food, so a directory would be helpful. That way, I can see which articles need work and which articles don't.[[User:Coffsneeze|Coffsneeze]] ([[User talk:Coffsneeze|talk]]) 18:43, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

:Categories tie related articles together: see [[:Category:Foods]].  --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup></font></b> - </i> 18:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

::That was fast.[[User:Coffsneeze|Coffsneeze]] ([[User talk:Coffsneeze|talk]]) 18:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

:::[[:Category:WikiProject Food and drink]] may also be of interest to you. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== italian football shirts ==

why are italy in white strips tonight?  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.39.56.240|82.39.56.240]] ([[User talk:82.39.56.240|talk]]) 19:00, 22 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia — Please consider asking at [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment]]. Regards, —[[user:aitias|αἰτίας]] ''•''[[User talk:Aitias|''discussion'']]''•'' 19:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== Showing up in a wiki search? ==
I just created a page for Scott Wilson (bodybuilder). Normally when I do a search for a relatively common name, I notice that the search brings up a list like..

John Smith (baseball player)
John Smith (actor)
John Smith (Singer)
etc.

However, when I search on 'Scott Wilson', it brings up a list of Scott Wilson's, but 'Scott Wilson (bodybuilder)' isn't appearing there.  I'm not seeing how to get this page listed there...or does this automatically happen, and it just takes awhile for the new page to get archived?  Thanks.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.131.8.110|71.131.8.110]] ([[User talk:71.131.8.110|talk]]) 19:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:You have to edit it manually, [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Scott_Wilson&diff=221029836&oldid=215542008 like so].  Also, please [[WP:Talk page guidelines|add new discussions]] to the bottom of the page and [[WP:Signatures|sign your posts]] with "<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" without the quotation marks.  –'''[[User:thedemonhog|<span style="color:#B22222">thedemonhog</span>]]''' <small>''[[User talk:thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">edits</span>]]''</small> 19:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== How do I add a picture to Wikipedia? ==

How do I add a picture to a Wikipedia article when the picture comes from a search engine on the web? Furthermore, do I have to cite the picture in the caption or the reference area? How do I change my username?[[User:Coffsneeze|Coffsneeze]] ([[User talk:Coffsneeze|talk]]) 19:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

:You must [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|cite the source]]; however, the [[Wikipedia:Images|picture]] that you have found may not be suitable for [[Wikipedia:Uploading images|uploading]] as it may violate the [[Wikipedia:Non-free content|non-free content]] guideline.  See the [[Wikipedia:Username policy|username]] changing [[Wikipedia:Changing username|request page]].  –'''[[User:thedemonhog|<span style="color:#B22222">thedemonhog</span>]]''' <small>''[[User talk:thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">edits</span>]]''</small> 19:17, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

==Consensus==
Am I right in thinking that consensus obtained on the talk page of page A, concerning changes to be made on page B, is still perfectly valid provided a note was left on the talk page of page B informing users about the discussion? I know this is what is usually done but could somebody please cite a policy that states as much? Thanks, --[[User:Cameron|Cameron]][[User Talk:Cameron|*]] 19:36, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

:See [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#Good practice]]: Centralized discussion and throw in some common sense.  --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup></font></b> - </i> 20:58, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::The latter tends to be rather difficult for me! = ) Thanks so much, --[[User:Cameron|Cameron]][[User Talk:Cameron|*]] 07:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

==Grawp -- How'd he get past it?==
Hey, I look at the block log a lot...and the other day, I noticed a lot of Grawp sock puppets, and they were using terms like "Willy on Wheels" and "Grawp" (here's one: "Willy on Wheels's anus is stretched by Grawp's massive cock.") How did he get past the Username blacklist? --[[User:IceSickleSHAKE|IceSickleSHAKE]] ([[User talk:IceSickleSHAKE|talk]]) 19:40, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:By stuffing [[WP:BEANS]] up your nose.  <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- [[User:Shinmawa|ShinmaWa]]<sup>([[User_talk:Shinmawa|talk]])</sup></font> 00:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::I still don't get it. --[[User:IceSickleSHAKE|IceSickleSHAKE]] ([[User talk:IceSickleSHAKE|talk]]) 00:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm with IceSickleSHAKE, I have no idea what BEANS has to do with the question.  <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 00:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:::(e/c) When a [[zero day exploit]] in software is found it's considered the polite thing to inform the software developer, and give them a chance to build a patch, before you tell all and sundry how to spread a virus to everyone who uses the program. When an exploit exists in Mediawiki that allows vandals like Grawp to get away with this stuff, and for which a fix is unlikely to come any time soon (because it's too hard, or because it would cause too much collateral damage), it's better to not spell it out, especially on a high-traffic page like this, so the [[script kiddies]] don't all go out and copy it. In other words, we don't tell people to stuff beans up their nose because if we did they'd probably try it. (Note: I don't know for sure how he does it myself, although I suspect it's the same trick he used for page moves, for those that know that.) [[User:ConMan|Confusing Manifestation]]<small>([[User talk:ConMan|Say hi!]])</small> 00:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::I'm sorry, I should have been a little less flippant.  The bottom line of [[WP:BEANS]] is that we don't discuss openly how to disrupt Wikipedia (such as how to squeeze around the blacklist) because it <s>might</s> <b>will</b> tempt people to try it.  Since this is primarily a technical issue with the devs, there's no legitimate reason to discuss the particulars of how abuse occurs in public forums and would be inappropriate to do so.  In other words, the help desk isn't here to assist people in disrupting Wikipedia.  (I'm not suggesting that IceSickleSHAKE would ever do such a thing, but many eyes watch this page.)  <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- [[User:Shinmawa|ShinmaWa]]<sup>([[User_talk:Shinmawa|talk]])</sup></font> 03:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Log in ==

I have repeatedly tried to get a log in.  I tried to create one.  Did not work.  There is wrong information concerning my self and the school.  Would like to correct it so we will not be misrepresented. None of our staff put that on this site as it is in error. Do not mind being mentioned but do want factual information.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.7.225.203|24.7.225.203]] ([[User talk:24.7.225.203|talk]]) 20:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:"Did not work" does not really help— give us some details on the problem.  You can edit without logging in and you can discuss this on the talk page.  Remember that changes muse meet [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verifiability]].  --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup></font></b> - </i> 21:01, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== If a possible page title leads to a different page and I think it should have its own page ==

I apologize if I should have found the answer to this question elsewhere.

I think that Oscar Wilde's wife Constance ought to have her own Wikipedia page, so I got an account here to make her one. However, if I type in "Constance Lloyd" (her maiden name) it goes to the Oscar Wilde page, and I can't figure out how to make a different page for her. (There is no page for her under any name she ever had in her life.) Oscar Wilde's parents, children, and grandson all have their own pages, so I think it's only fair his wife should have her own.

[[User:Marauder The Slash Nymph|Marauder The Slash Nymph]] ([[User talk:Marauder The Slash Nymph|talk]]) 20:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)Marauder The Slash Nymph

:You may edit the page ''Constance Lloyd'' by clicking to [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Constance_Lloyd&action=edit this link]. Hope this helps you. :) —[[user:aitias|αἰτίας]] ''•''[[User talk:Aitias|''discussion'']]''•'' 21:04, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

{{ec}}
:That is a redirect: see [[Wikipedia:Redirect]].  When you click on [[Constance Lloyd]], it redirects you.  Under the article title you will see "(Redirected from Constance Lloyd)"; clicking on that link will open the Constance Lloyd page without redirecting.  --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup></font></b> - </i> 21:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


= June 23 =

== Printing From a Server ==

How do you print from home from your work server {{unsigned|67.186.73.212}}

:Have you tried the [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing|Computing section]] of Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Reference desk|Reference Desk]]? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia.  For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Computing&action=edit&section=new&editintro=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/How_to_ask click here]. I hope this helps. -- [[User:Natalya|Nataly<font color="green">a</font>]] 00:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== find a Wikipedian with an account on a subscription-only website ==

Is there a way to find a Wikipedian with an account on a subscription-only website who might be willing to look up a particular source? I would like to see a document that is on the website ancestry.ca. Searching Wikipedia for that domain turned up nothing useful (ie I don't think there is anyone who has "I do ancestry.ca searches" on their userpage). Is there a place to ask for this particular kind of research help? I wasn't sure it would be right for the Reference Desk. Thanks [[User:WikiJedits|WikiJedits]] ([[User talk:WikiJedits|talk]]) 01:25, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:You can ask at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange]], but I'm not sure how active that is. You might check the backlinks for  {{tlu|User:Scepia/family history}} and see who is active.  --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup></font></b> - </i> 02:25, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::And see [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Fact and Reference Check]] ([[WP:FACT]]) and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Genealogy]] (you might ask on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Genealogy]]). I wouldn't see any problem with asking on the [[WP:RD|Reference desk]], if you don't get an answer elsewhere. How did you search for ancestry.ca on Wikipedia? [[Special:Linksearch]] seems to find one instance [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALinksearch&target=*.ancestry.ca with this search], pointing to the article [[The Generations Network]]. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 03:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== High school sports and CSD A7 ==

Is being a champion cross country runner for high school a large enough assertion on notability to bypass CSD A7? The article that that got me thinking was [[Matt Rand]]. [[User:Icewedge|-Icewedge]] ([[User talk:Icewedge|talk]]) 01:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:Looking at [[WP:BIO]], specifically the section on athletes, I'd say no. Hope this helps, '''''<font color="green">[[User:Gazimoff|Gazimoff]]</font>''''' <sup><font color="blue">[[User talk:Gazimoff|Write]]</font></sup><sub><font color="black">[[Special:Contributions/Gazimoff|Read]]</font></sub> 01:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Unified userpage ==

It will be convenient if we have a unified userpage since we have a unified login now; or at least there will be a simple function to redirect other userpages to a certian URL. Will it happen? --[[User:Phlyming|Phlyming]] ([[User talk:Phlyming|talk]]) 01:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:There's been [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metapub#Global_userpage a short discussion of this over at Meta] that might interest you. -- [[User:Natalya|Nataly<font color="green">a</font>]] 02:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== New article re a superhero in children's book series ==

I recently submitted an article in regards to a superhero in a children's book named Sending You Sammy.  From my experience with Wikipedia I felt that they were pretty open to all types of articles but received the reply today to say that mine isn't relevant.  I'm not sure how to make this any more relevant than I feel it already is.  The article is found under BananaBoy and I would love to have your opinion on how to make it acceptable to Wikipedia.  Thanks  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Samarbu|Samarbu]] ([[User talk:Samarbu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Samarbu|contribs]]) 01:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:It is hard to show notability or to put a character into context when there is no article on the book, the series or the author.  Before you create an article on [[BananaBoy]], you should have an article on [[Sending You Sammy]], before that an article on [[Adventures Of Sammy]], before that an article on [[Sarah Butland]].  I left you a welcome page- review the policies a bit, then check out [[Wikipedia:Your first article]].  --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup></font></b> - </i> 02:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

::The article is at [[Bananaboy]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 12:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== 10th mark sheet lost ==

hi ,myself anil kumar sharma, i hav lost my 10 mark sheet, could u please tell me from where i can get it again?????  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/59.180.148.192|59.180.148.192]] ([[User talk:59.180.148.192|talk]]) 04:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Have you tried Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Reference desk|Reference Desk]]? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. [[User:Calvin 1998|Calvin 1998]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:Calvin 1998|t]]-[[Special:Contributions/Calvin 1998|c]])</sup> 05:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::You may be {{Tl|astray}} - Wikipedia has lots of articles about lots of organizations, but Wikipedia is not affiliated with most of them. What article were you reading when you had this question? --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 05:16, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I Googled and found [http://wiki.answers.com/Q/You_lost_your_sslc_state_board_of_tamilnadu_mark_sheet_how_can_you_get_duplicate_mark_sheet] which may or may not be relevant to you. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 12:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

==Sockpuppetting==
If you use your IP Address and Your Account sometimes at different times, does that count as Sockpuppetting?

--—<font color="red">[[User:Piazzajordan2|Piazzajordan2]]</font> (<font color="blue">[[User talk:Piazzajordan2#top|straight chillin]]</font>) 05:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:No, so long as you are not using them deceptively, e.g. supporting yourself in a debate.  See [[Wikipedia:Sock puppetry]].  –'''[[User:thedemonhog|<span style="color:#B22222">thedemonhog</span>]]''' <small>''[[User talk:thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">edits</span>]]''</small> 05:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh no, just sometimes I accidently forget to log in. And I don't want to get blocked, but thank you.

--—<font color="red">[[User:Piazzajordan2|Piazzajordan2]]</font> (<font color="blue">[[User talk:Piazzajordan2#top|straight chillin]]</font>) 05:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:It's also worth noting the difference between sock puppetry and ''abusive'' sock puppetry. Having two accounts is sock puppetry, but in many cases is allowed (for example, you use one account for normal editing, and the other to fight vandalism, and both user pages note this fact). When you use two accounts (or an account and an IP) to get around Wikipedia policy - like trying to fake consensus, to evade a block or ban, or to avoid scrutiny of some of your edits - that's abusive sock puppetry (because you're abusing the rules, and community trust), and that's when you get into trouble. Forgetting to log in once in a while is no problem. [[User:ConMan|Confusing Manifestation]]<small>([[User talk:ConMan|Say hi!]])</small> 06:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah it kinda happens to me like once every 2 weeks and I'll sign comments and get confused, lol. But thanks for showing me that. 

--<font color="red">[[User:Piazzajordan2|Piazzajordan2]]</font> (<font color="blue"><small>[[User talk:Piazzajordan2#top|straight chillin]]</small></font>) 07:03, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Altering Edit Summaries After Submitted ==

I accidentally committed changes to an article before I was done editing.  Nothing really bad happened, except I don't know how how to fill in an edit summary for those changes now.  Is there any way to add an annotation of some sort in regards to the previous change?  Thanks.  [[Special:Contributions/155.47.130.62|155.47.130.62]] ([[User talk:155.47.130.62|talk]]) 07:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:No, you cannot change edit summaries after they are submitted.  I recommend referencing the edit in the edit summary of your next edit to that article.  See [[Help:Edit summary]] for further information.  –'''[[User:thedemonhog|<span style="color:#B22222">thedemonhog</span>]]''' <small>''[[User talk:thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">edits</span>]]''</small> 07:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

::But there's nothing else I want to change; and trying to add a note while making no changes didn't work. [[Special:Contributions/155.47.130.62|155.47.130.62]] ([[User talk:155.47.130.62|talk]])  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 08:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:::A change to the article is needed for an edit (and its summary) to be saved in the history.  Edit summaries are helpful, but not necessary, so don't worry about it.  –'''[[User:thedemonhog|<span style="color:#B22222">thedemonhog</span>]]''' <small>''[[User talk:thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">edits</span>]]''</small> 08:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:If it's very important, you could clarify with a note on the article's [[WP:TALK|talk page]], or make a [[WP:NULL|null edit]] to save a second summary. &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">[[User:Luna Santin|<font color="#1E90FF">'''Luna Santin'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]])</span> 08:17, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::To be precise, it would have to be a [[Help:Dummy edit#Dummy edit|dummy edit]] since null edits are not recorded and their edit summary is discarded. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 12:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Differecnes ==

How is <nowiki>[[Category:Blue Ensigns|British Indian Ocean Territory]]</nowiki> different from <nowiki>[[Category:Blue Ensigns|A]]</nowiki>?[[Special:Contributions/68.148.164.166|68.148.164.166]] ([[User talk:68.148.164.166|talk]]) 07:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:In most cases, the text after a pipe is the "show text." <code><nowiki>[[The weather in London|Timmy]]</nowiki></code> produces [[The weather in London|Timmy]]. With categories, the text after a pipe is the "sortkey" -- when looking at pages in a category, they'll be sorted alphabetically (using the sortkey if one is provided, or the page name if not). Among other uses, this is helpful for biographies, since we want to alphabetize those by last name, rather than first name. [[WP:SORTKEY]] has some more information. &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">[[User:Luna Santin|<font color="#1E90FF">'''Luna Santin'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]])</span> 08:20, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Including / listing company names in your website ==

Sir or madam
I had written 6 weeks ago about listing of SAFT and Marathon as suppliers of aircraft batteries in below link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel-cadmium_battery_vented_cell_type
I had asked that our company name could also be included as we are manufacturer and export of batteries just like SAFT / Marathon.

I was informed that it is against your policy to include company names and same have been removed. However, I found now that again these company names are listed?

Can this issue be resolved.

Thank you,

Prabhaker Nittla
Global Account Manager
'''''[redacted]'''''

:I'm unaware of your previous request.  However, I believe you misunderstand the 'policy'.  There is no policy against including company names in articles if they are pertinent to the subject at hand and follow our true policies of [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]], [[WP:V|verifiability]], and [[WP:RS|reliable sources]].   Although mentions of SAFT and Marathon do exist in the article just as you say, the context of those mentions appear to be because their operations manuals were used as sources in the creation of the article (albeit in a way that doesn't quite meet our [[WP:CITE|citation standards]]).  However, it appears at first glance that your interest in this article is for [[WP:ADVERT|advertising your business]], which Wikipedia has no interest in furthering.   <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- [[User:Shinmawa|ShinmaWa]]<sup>([[User_talk:Shinmawa|talk]])</sup></font> 09:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

::(Update) I've also removed the two external links to SAFT and Marathon as they don't meet [[WP:ELNO]].  I did keep the direct link to the OMM PDF though.  However, the companies are still listed as references in the article as noted above. <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- [[User:Shinmawa|ShinmaWa]]<sup>([[User_talk:Shinmawa|talk]])</sup></font> 10:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Viewing user subpages ==

Is there any tool by which I can view all my user subpages? '''[[User:Otolemur crassicaudatus|<font color="002bb8">Otolemur crassicaudatus</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Otolemur crassicaudatus|talk]]) 08:17, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:[[Special:Prefixindex]] is useful, there. In your case, [[Special:Prefixindex/User:Otolemur crassicaudatus]] (you can add a trailing slash, if you really want ONLY subpages). &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">[[User:Luna Santin|<font color="#1E90FF">'''Luna Santin'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]])</span> 08:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::And you can see the talk pages with [[Special:Prefixindex/User talk:Otolemur crassicaudatus]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 12:17, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Get rid of an account ==
Before you start, I know that you can't simply ''delete'' a Wikipedia account. But, I want to get 'rid' of it. My solution: Change the IP address, email and name details of my account, then leave my password details on my User Page. How do I change all my details, stop my IP address being tracked to my computer etc? Leave a message '''on my talk page'''!!![[User:Tentimesone|Tentimesone]] ([[User talk:Tentimesone|talk]]) 08:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)Tentimesone
:Answered on user's Talk page as requested (and have advised against leaving password).--[[Special:Contributions/92.40.56.199|92.40.56.199]] ([[User talk:92.40.56.199|talk]]) 08:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== blacklist ==

Some spiteful person has blacklisted my web site from your 'Animal Rights' page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_rights). How can I un-blacklist it?

[[User:Gluecat|Gluecat]] ([[User talk:Gluecat|talk]]) 09:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:Take a look at [[Wikipedia:Spam blacklist]].  This page explains the background of the Spam Blacklist.  In addition, there is a link there that'll take you to the page where you can request your site to be [[MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed_removals|removed]].  Be sure to explain why you feel your site would improve the article in your request.  In addition, I would refrain from using terms like "spiteful person" as that will unlikely leave a favorable impression on the administrators reviewing your request.  (Your history of link spamming[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gluecat&oldid=218141443] is also unlikely to leave a favorable impression -- be prepared to give an '''ironclad''' reason why your web site should be included) <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- [[User:Shinmawa|ShinmaWa]]<sup>([[User_talk:Shinmawa|talk]])</sup></font> 09:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== where to enter a new person on Wikipedia ==

I want to start an entry on Wikipedia for a democracy and women's rights campaigner, an Englishman named Raymond Lloyd.  He is based in the UK but his monthly newsletter Parity Democrat goes worldwide.  He is one of the few men in the world who have spent the last 35 years of his life campaigning for women's equality full-time, unpaid, and he has exceptionally interesting and usweful things to say.  Originally, for many years he worked for the United Nations Food & Agricultural agency based in Rome, before leaving and creating the Parity Democrat and commencing his campaigns.

What heading would he come under, or can we create a new one for 'Women's parity democracy campaigners'?

Tim Symonds  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tim symonds|Tim symonds]] ([[User talk:Tim symonds|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tim symonds|contribs]]) 10:06, 23 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:What to call the article you mean? Just [[Raymond Lloyd]] would be sufficient. The second part of the query ("women's parity democracy campaigners") sound like [[WP:CAT|categorisation]], which will happen after the article is written. Hope that helps. Best, [[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 10:16, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

::'''(e/c)''' Welcome to Wikipedia!  It certainly sounds like [[Raymond Lloyd]] would make a valuable addition to Wikipedia, based on your description.  According to our [[WP:MOS|Manual of Style]], the article name would be "[[Raymond Lloyd]]".   However, before you get started, you might want to read up on how to create '''[[WP:YFA|your first article]]'''.  Once you have your article going, then you might want to look at [[Help:Categories|categories]] to put your article in.  I believe this is what you were referring to in the second part of your message.   One possible category might be [[:Category:British women's rights activists]], but you might find others as well.  Good luck!  (And I just KNEW PeterSymonds was going to jump on this one first!) <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- [[User:Shinmawa|ShinmaWa]]<sup>([[User_talk:Shinmawa|talk]])</sup></font> 10:19, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:::How could I resist? :) [[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 12:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

::::(tangent) Okay, next time someone from the Wa clan writes in, I call it! :) :)  <font style="font-variant: small-caps;">-- [[User:Shinmawa|ShinmaWa]]<sup>([[User_talk:Shinmawa|talk]])</sup></font> 14:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:::[[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] Please '''see [[Wikipedia:Your first article|Your first article]].'''
#Ensure that you have an account and you are [[Special:Userlogin|logged in]].  If you don't have an account, create one
#[[WP:N|Make sure the subject is notable enough to have their own article]].
#Find [[WP:REF|references]]
#Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box to the left (←) and clicking 'Search'
#Type the page name in the search box to the left (←) and click 'Go'
#Click 'Create this page'
#Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the [[WP:MOS|Manual of Style]] and our [[WP:LAYOUT|article layout guidelines]]
#Be aware that Wikipedia [[WP:WWMPD|deletes thousands of new articles]] for failing to adhere to our [[WP:POLICY|policies and guidelines]]. New articles by new users are at extra risk of deletion, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by [[Wikipedia:Cleanup|editing existing articles]] before attempting to create new ones.......[[User: Densock|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#008000"> Densock</em>''']] .. <small>[[User talk:Dendodge|Talk]]</small><sup>([[User:Dendodge|Dendodge]] on a public network)</sup> 11:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== How to Edit "Semi-Protected" Article ==

Hello!

The article on rock guitarist Slash (aka Saul Hudson, of Guns N' Roses) has been marked as "semi-protected," which appears to mean it can only be edited by registered users.

Well, I am a registered user, and it will not let me edit the article.  When I read the FAQ on this issue, it said I would be allowed to edit the article as a registered user "after a while."

What does "after a while" mean?  When will I be allowed to edit this article?

Thanks a lot!

[[User:GregB777|GregB777]] ([[User talk:GregB777|talk]]) 11:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:See [[WP:SEMI|semi-protected articles]] and [[WP:Autoconfirmed|autoconfirmed users]]. Your account has to be four days old and have ten edits before you enter the "autoconfirmed" category (automatically). Best, [[User:PeterSymonds|PeterSymonds]] [[User talk:PeterSymonds|<small>(talk)</small>]] 12:04, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Linking to Wikipedia ==
Hello thre I am Rav,
I have been using Wiki since a very Long time and now i am willing to use it as a LINK in my wesite .... I just wanted to know if i can use any links that i find suitable to My site as a Link taking my customers to Your site...

Ie, Can i use your link in my site ?  If there are any Policy issues i am not adhering to please do reply with information related to this issue .... 

To my knowledge Wiki is very Popular and adding it to any ones site is just another added advantage as the user is coming to Wiki Ultimatly ....

Awaiting Reply
Rav--[[User:Registerindiancompany|Registerindiancompany]] ([[User talk:Registerindiancompany|talk]]) 12:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:You are welcome to put a link to any Wikipedia page on your website. Wikipedia does not use link exchange and [[Wikipedia:External links#Advertising and conflicts of interest]] says webmasters are not allowed to add links to their own site to an external links section in Wikipedia. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 12:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Why is all the text displaying as Thai or something?  ==

I can see this message normally as I type it -- and page titles, such as the "The help desk is for questions about USING Wikipedia" message above -- but all content looks like Thai script or something similar. I have tried adjusting my browser default font (from Verdana to Arial) and font size but with no success. This is only happening on Wikipedia. 

The irony here is that if you reply to this message, I will not be able to read it without cutting and pasting into a text editor (where everything converts back to English). I'm on Firefox 3 using Mac OS X, if that helps. I'm not sure how I will know if anyone has replied to this question, though. I guess I'll just revisit this page throughout the day and try cutting and pasting the bottom few questions and answers into a text editor. Thanks! --[[User:MattShepherd|MattShepherd]] ([[User talk:MattShepherd|talk]]) 15:18, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:Hmmm, have you tried quitting your browser and trying again? If that fails, I know it sounds basic but try restarting your computer. I'm also using firefox 3 in Mac OS X and everything's fine. Have you tried using safari instead?( Hope you can read this somehow!) [[User:Harland1|<span style="color:DarkRed">Harland1]] (<sup>[[User talk:Harland1|t]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Harland1|c]]</sub>)</span> 15:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::Oh, weird, it's happening in Safari, too. But I stress: only Wikipedia! No other sites at all, and that includes, well, Gmail, Metafilter, BoingBoing, and a bunch'a other stuff. At least I've figured out that since I can read the Courier-type font that is used for editing, I can read this page in Edit mode. This wasn't a problem before the FF3 upgrade... but if it's happening in Safari too, maybe that's just a coincidence. What a weird problem. I'll try a reboot. --[[Special:Contributions/66.129.135.114|66.129.135.114]] ([[User talk:66.129.135.114|talk]]) 16:30, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Rebooting, it does nothing! This is super bizarre. --[[Special:Contributions/66.129.135.114|66.129.135.114]] ([[User talk:66.129.135.114|talk]]) 16:36, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Can you take a [[screenshot]]?  We might be able to figure out the problem based on that. --<font color="#0000ff">[[User talk:Grey Knight|<sub>tiny plastic</sub> Grey Knight]]</font> <font color="#777777">[[User:tiny plastic Grey Knight|&#x2296;]]</font> 16:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure. Here's a screenshot that I blogged up. http://www.shep.ca/?p=220 --[[Special:Contributions/66.129.135.114|66.129.135.114]] ([[User talk:66.129.135.114|talk]]) 17:03, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Resolved: I deactivated "allow Web pages to choose their own font" in my Firefox prefs after lots of digging. I still have no idea why Wikipedia's chosen font defaults to Thai on this browser. --[[Special:Contributions/66.129.135.114|66.129.135.114]] ([[User talk:66.129.135.114|talk]]) 19:20, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

==Uploading images from other WP versions==
I'm working on an article, translating it from Greek into English.  The Greek article has uploaded images etc.  May I copy the images from another WP version (e.g. the Greek WP) to the English WP?   Otherwise the article looks so dull...  Sorry if this question has been asked many times before! I'm relatively new to WP... Please answer on my talk page if possible. [[User:Pel thal|Pel thal]] ([[User talk:Pel thal|talk]]) 15:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:You might want to see if the images exist at [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page Commons], when they can be used in any language or project under the same name. Which article did you have in mind? <strong>[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#006400">Spencer</span>]]</strong><sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:Coral">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:Coral">C</span>]]</sup> 15:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::I see which article. For example, [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D_Solomos.JPG this] can be used here, as it is on commons. <strong>[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#006400">Spencer</span>]]</strong><sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:Coral">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:Coral">C</span>]]</sup> 15:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== WYSIWYG edits ==

How to make "What you see is what you get" edits, like I using web editor such Dreamweaver or Front page. I no want to tolerant of boring of seeing a lot of source wikicode, especially making of tables. [[User:SignIDlike|Zoomed10^10]] ([[User talk:SignIDlike|talk]]) 16:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:See [[WP:EIW#WYSIWYG]] for what's available. The last time I looked, I wasn't too impressed by the editing tools I saw. What don't you like about [[wikitext]]? --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 17:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Helicopter Airlines ==

The page "Helicopter Airlines" should include Evergreen Helicopters International, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Evergreen International Aviation.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/204.203.50.2|204.203.50.2]] ([[User talk:204.203.50.2|talk]]) 16:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I cannot find an article called Helicopter Airlines - is that the correct title?&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 16:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::{{Google wikipedia|helicopter airlines}} - that finds no [[WP:WIAA|article]] with that title, but it does find a [[Help:Category|category]] page: [[:Category:Helicopter airlines]]. Categories aren't the same as articles. See: [[Wikipedia:What is an article?]] and [[Help:Category]]. If "Evergreen Helicopters International" does not appear on the category page, that means nobody has categorized that article (if it exists) into that category. Categories can be pretty confusing to new users, so read [[Help:Category]] over and over until my reply makes sense. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 17:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:::{{Google wikipedia|Evergreen Helicopters International}} - that finds these articles:
:::*[[Evergreen International Airlines]]
:::*[[Evergreen International Aviation]]
:::but I don't see a separate article for the helicopters subsidiary. In any case, you could probably categorize one or both of those articles into [[:Category:Helicopter airlines]] if you like, by placing the [[wikitext]]:
 <nowiki>[[Category:Helicopter airlines]]</nowiki>
:::at the bottom of the article(s) along with their other category links. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 17:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Note: the question contains a bit of a [[red herring]] in that the word "page" might seem to mean "article," but apparently it means a category page. Articles are but one type of page on Wikipedia; we often read the word "page" as a synonym for "article", and that can be confusing. When answering Help desk questions, one must try to keep one's mind open to all possibilities, rather than focusing on one specific interpretation. Unfortunately, there is an issue of psychology, in which virtually all people process language by subconsciously interpreting it, and then once we get one particular interpretation into our thinking, sometimes it becomes almost impossible to realize other interpretations are possible. Answering questions on the Help desk can be an exercise in learning to consciously override this tendency. See also [[Hasty generalization]], [[Blind men and an elephant]], [[Hypothesis]], and [[Scientific method]]. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 17:24, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Still no reply ==

The Spanish site I contacted about having translated the Wikipedia article [[World Bodypainting Festival]] to Spanish without citing a source still hasn't replied to my e-mail about violation of the GFDL. I do not want compensation or the site to be taken down. All I want is them to acknowledge they're citing GFDL material, so the Spanish Wikipedia can use their translation. How should I proceed? [[User:JIP|<font color="#CC0000">J</font><font color="#00CC00">I</font><font color="#0000CC">P</font>]] | [[User talk:JIP|Talk]] 17:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

IMHO,you should try contacting them again,but if that fails,I'm not surewhat we can do.Are there any other means to contact them (telephone,etc.)?--[[User:Fireaxe888|Fireaxe888]] ([[User talk:Fireaxe888|talk]]) 18:25, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Weird user inserting weird info, busy for months ==

Since I think December last year, someone is adding weird voice actor information to actor articles and Pokémon lists, using dynamic addresses from the 90.202.89.1/255 range. The things he or she adds are often dubious, and sometimes cleary false. Typical edits are claims about an actor voicing a Pokémon in a show which doesn't exist, or adding voice acting information to a Pokémon list, which is not only inappropriate, the information itself might also be incorrect. Some addresses used:

*[[Special:Contributions/90.202.89.1|90.202.89.1]]
*[[Special:Contributions/90.202.89.2|90.202.89.2]]
*[[Special:Contributions/90.202.89.4|90.202.89.6]]
*[[Special:Contributions/90.202.89.9|90.202.89.9]]
*...and so on.

I wonder what to do about this. [[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské Couriano]] suggested semi-protection of the pages he/she targets. But that's quite a lot, and propably wouldn't be practical. Hard-blocking the entire range might be an option. I've looked at the first 85 addresses, and the only person who seems to be using them is the person in question. But then again, the whole thing might not be serious enough to warrant such a block.

Advice is appreciated. Please see [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pokémon#Voice acting information]] for the discussion and more details.

Cheers, [[User:Face|Face]] 18:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

==External links - blogs==
On [[Wikipedia:External links]] under the "Links normally to be avoided" section it lists blogs except those written by a recognised authority. However, it also states, "Except for a link to a page that is the subject of the article or an official page of the article subject—and not prohibited by restrictions on linking". I have always presumed that "fan blogs" of notable people are links that should be avoided. Am I correct or not? This refers to the [[Rachel Tucker]] article on which a "fanblog" has been added to the External links section. Thank you. [[User:Tangerines|<font color="darkorange">'''''♦Tangerines♦'''''</font>]]·<small>[[User_talk:Tangerines|Talk]]</small> 18:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:In my opinion, the perfect article would have no See also or External links sections- all would be in the article as wikilinks or references; at worst, these should normally be kept to a minimum.  External links should give content that is not included in the article for some reason and should reliably enhance the article.    --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup></font></b> - </i> 18:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)