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== Candidate entries ==
===Articles created/expanded on November 21===
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*... that a tenth-century local legend in '''''[[Lajjun]]''''', a district center in [[Palestine]] under the [[Abbasid]]s, held that the spring which served as the town's primary water source sprang from a stone after [[Abraham]] struck it with his staff? (joint nom) [[User:Huldra|Huldra]], [[User:Tiamut|Tiamut]] and [[User:Al Ameer son|Al Ameer son]] ([[User talk:Al Ameer son|talk]]) 18:59, 21 November 2008 (UTC) 

*... that, according to the answers [[Friedrich Engels]] gave in a Victorian '''[[Confession album]]''', his idea of happiness was [[Château Margaux]] 1848?  new article, self nom. (There is a picture, but it would need a different hook, as it's not of Engels' answers) [[User:N p holmes|N p holmes]] ([[User talk:N p holmes|talk]]) 17:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:By Dawn's Early Light 1912.png|right|100x100px]]
*...that '''[[John Stuart Skinner]]''' was a prisoner-of-war agent with [[Francis Scott Key]] on a mercy mission to get back a particular prisoner from the British, when Key was inspired ''(painting)'' to write a work that became "[[The Star Spangled Banner]]?" new article, self nominated by --[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 15:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:GandhiBoer.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that [[Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi|Mahatma Gandhi]] ''(circled)'' participated in the recovery and '''[[Treatment of the wounded in the Second Boer War]]''' at the [[Battle of Colenso]] and [[Battle of Spion Kop]]?  --new article, self-nom by [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">'''''Count Blofeld'''''</font>]]</span> 14:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
: Your "oval" needs bolding. Can't see it!  Might as well crop it. --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.18.119|74.14.18.119]] ([[User talk:74.14.18.119|talk]]) 18:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Waterstone's]], [[W H Smith]], and [[Amazon.com|Amazon.co.uk]] stopped selling '''''[[The Complex: An Insider Exposes the Covert World of the Church of Scientology]]''''' after receiving [[Scientology and the legal system|legal letters]] from [[Scientology]]? -- new article, self-nom by '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 14:08, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the book '''''[[The Complex: How the Military Invades Our Everyday Lives]]''''' explores [[United States military|U.S. military]] expenditures on items including Southern [[catfish]] restaurants and [[Dunkin' Donuts]]? -- new article, self-nom by '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 14:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that ''' [[Swadeshabhimani Ramakrishna Pillai]] ''' wrote the [[Malayalam]] biography on [[Karl Marx]], which is the first Marx biography in any [[India]]n language ?  - new-article, self-nom by -- [[User:Tinucherian|'''<em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu</em>''']] [[User talk:Tinucherian|'''<em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian </em>''']] - 06:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the '''[[cohort model]]''' in [[psycholinguistics]] attempts to describe the retrieval of words from the [[Lexicon|mental lexicon]] in terms of how speech stimulates [[neuron]]s?  (new article by self. Will continue to think of some more interesting but accessible hooks.) &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 05:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that in 1905, '''[[Fred Odwell]]''' led the [[National League]] in [[home run]]s with nine, but hit only one home run in the other three seasons he played in [[Major League Baseball]]? -- five-fold expansion (from prose of 285 characters), self-nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 04:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Council House, Perth.jpg|right|100x100px|Council House]]
*... that '''[[Council House, Perth|Council House]]''' ''(pictured)'' in [[Perth, Western Australia|Perth]], [[Western Australia]], was built to coincide with that city's hosting of the [[1962 British Empire and Commonwealth Games]]? -- self-nom, de-stubbed (5x) - [[User:Mark|Mark]] 09:34, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

===Articles created/expanded on November 20===
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*...that '''[[Rosetta Reitz]]''', whose Rosetta Records focused on the women of Jazz, was behind the 1980 [[Newport Jazz Festival]] tribute called "Blues is a Woman", featuring [[Adelaide Hall]] and [[Big Mama Thornton]]? -- five-fold expansion, self-nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 17:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
**OR in a completely different approach (alt hook)*...that '''[[Rosetta Reitz]]''' wrote the 1977 book ''Menopause: A Positive Approach'', one of the first to focus on [[menopause]] from the perspective of women, not doctors? -- five-fold expansion, self-nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 17:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''''[[Quanta Computer, Inc. v. LG Electronics, Inc.]]''''' is a 2008 [[U.S. Supreme Court]] decision in which the Court reaffirmed the validity of the [[patent]] [[exhaustion doctrine]]? - created by {{user|PraeceptorIP}}, nom by [[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 15:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:*ALT:... that the validity of the [[patent]] [[exhaustion doctrine]] was reaffirmed in the 2008 [[Supreme Court of the United States|U.S. Supreme Court]] [[Legal case|decision]] '''''[[Quanta Computer, Inc. v. LG Electronics, Inc.]]'''''? --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.18.119|74.14.18.119]] ([[User talk:74.14.18.119|talk]]) 18:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that there are four types of '''[[Spinning (polymers)|spinning]]''', a manufacturing process for creating [[polymer]] fibers&mdash;wet, dry, melt, and gel? - created by {{user|Wizard191}}, nom by [[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 14:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the Dunderberg Spiral Railway would have pulled train cars to the top of '''[[Dunderberg Mountain]]''' and returned by coasting back down the 12-mile-long track at speeds approaching 50 miles per hour? -- new article by [[User:Kafziel]], nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 04:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Wil Venable 01.jpg|right|100x100px|Will Venable]]
*... that '''[[Will Venable]]''' (pictured), son of former [[Major League Baseball]] player [[Max Venable]], was the 2nd athlete (after current teammate [[Chris Young (pitcher)|Chris Young]]) to be named first-team All-[[Ivy League]] in both [[basketball]] and [[baseball]]?--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 03:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] Hook is 213 characters. —<font face="georgia">[[User:97198|<b>97198</b>]] <small>([[User talk:97198|talk]])</small></font> 06:38, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the '''[[Lava River Cave]]''' in [[Newberry National Volcanic Monument]] near [[Bend, Oregon]], is the longest known uncollapsed [[lava tube]] in [[Oregon]]?  Self-nom.--[[User:Orygun|Orygun]] ([[User talk:Orygun|talk]]) 02:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Áed Ua Crimthainn]]''', [[abbot]] of [[Terryglass]] in [[Ireland]], was the compiler and principal scribe of the ''[[Book of Leinster]]'', a [[Middle Irish]] [[illuminated manuscript]]? -- new article by [[User:Strawless]]. [[User:Angusmclellan|Angus McLellan]]  [[User talk:Angusmclellan|(Talk)]] 00:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that Dr. '''[[Jay Katz]]''', who escaped from [[Nazi Germany]] to the US in the 1930s, opposed use of data from [[Nazi human experimentation]], noting that "we cannot separate the data from the way they were obtained"? -- new article, self nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 23:41, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:KnightFoundry SuttersCreekCA.jpg|right|100x100px|Knight Foundry]]
*... that the '''[[Knight Foundry]]''' ''(pictured)'' in [[Sutter Creek, California]], is the last water-powered [[foundry]] in the United States? (self-nom, 5x expansion 445&rarr;4981 characters) {{User|Howcheng}} 18:24, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:<s>[[Image:Pictogram voting keep.svg|18px]] Length expansion, date verified.  Offline hook reference accepted in good faith. --[[User:Rosiestep|Rosiestep]] ([[User talk:Rosiestep|talk]]) 20:52, 20 November 2008 (UTC)</s>
::Ack! My bad, it's not offline; I just forgot the URL. I have now added that to the link for full verification. <span style="font-family:Verdana; ">'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 21:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Alrighty; good to go! --[[User:Rosiestep|Rosiestep]] ([[User talk:Rosiestep|talk]]) 04:34, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that at least one song written by '''[[Sonny Throckmorton]]''' was on the country music charts for almost every week between 1976 and 1980? - Self nom [[User:TenPoundHammer|<span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>]] and his otters • <sup>([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Broken clamshells]] • [[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otter chirps]] • [[:User:TenPoundHammer/Country|HELP]])</sup> 18:05, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Nabi Shu'ayb]]''', [[Arabic language|Arabic]] for "the Prophet [[Jethro]]", is used in English to refer to the site where [[Druze]] tradition holds he was buried? (creator:[[User:Al Ameer son]]), nominated by [[User:Tiamut|<b><font color="#B93B8F">T</font><font color="#800000">i</font><font color="#B93B8F">a</font><font color="#800000">m</font><font color="#B93B8F">u</font><font color="#800000">t</font></b>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Tiamut|talk]]</sup> 17:56, 20 November 2008 (UTC) 

*... that the initial [[ransom]] demand by [[Piracy in Somalia|Somali pirates]] to release the '''[[MT Stolt Valor|MT ''Stolt Valor'']]''', [[hijack]]ed September 15, 2008, was [[USD|US$]]6 million? (new; self nom) --[[User:Rosiestep|Rosiestep]] ([[User talk:Rosiestep|talk]]) 17:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that when property fund [[Nation Life Insurance]] collapsed in 1973, its owner '''[[William Stern (businessman)|William Stern]]''' became Britain’s biggest [[bankrupt]] with debts of £118&nbsp;million? 
::Although this is unflattering info about a living person, I think it's more than adequately cited and doesn't give it undue weight (it seems to be the source of his greatest notoriety), so meets DYK's standards for inclusion. Nevertheless, I can also put forward this alternative:
:*... that the [[bankruptcy]] of property fund owner '''[[William Stern (businessman)|William Stern]]''' with debts of £118&nbsp;million led directly to the creation of Britain's first [[List of Acts of Parliament of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1960-1979#1975|Policyholders' Protection Act]] in 1975? -- new article self-nom(s) by ''--[[User:DeLarge|DeLarge]] ([[User talk:DeLarge|talk]]) 12:56, 20 November 2008 (UTC)''

[[Image:RobbJohnson.jpg|right|100x100px|[[Robb Johnson]] playing live]] 
*... that singer [[Robb Johnson]] ''(pictured)'' based the album '''[[Gentle Men (album)|Gentle Men]]''' on the experiences of his two grandfathers during the [[First World War]]? -- new article, self nom by [[User:ChrisTheDude|ChrisTheDude]] ([[User talk:ChrisTheDude|talk]]) 10:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that during the '''[[Great Bombay Textile Strike]]''' of 1982, nearly 250,000 workers and more than 50 textile mills went on strike in [[Mumbai]], [[India]]? --- new article, self nom by [[User:Kensplanet|<font color = "red">'''Kensplanet'''</font>]][[User talk:Kensplanet|<font color="black"><b><sup>Talk</sup></b></font>]][[Special:Contributions/Kensplanet|<font color="green"><b><sub>Contributions</sub></b></font>]] 09:23, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Chuck Churn]]''' won only three games in his Major League Baseball career, one of them handing [[Elroy Face]] his only loss in 1959 when he finished with an 18-1 record? -- fivefold expansion, self nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 04:37, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

* ... that the French [[transmission system operator]] '''[[Réseau de Transport d'Électricité]]''' manages a 100,000&nbsp;km network of [[high voltage|high-voltage]] [[electric power transmission|power lines]], making it Europe's largest? New article, self-nom. &mdash; [[User:BillC|BillC]]  <sup>[[User talk:BillC|talk]]</sup> 01:34, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:For those who don't speak French, the hook is cited in the ''La Dépêche du Midi'' reference: ''"le plus grand réseau de transport d'Europe"'', "the biggest transmission network in Europe". The 100,000km part is in references #1 and #5. &mdash; [[User:BillC|BillC]]  <sup>[[User talk:BillC|talk]]</sup> 03:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Order of the Builders of People's Poland]]''' was the highest civilian decoration in the [[People's Republic of Poland]]? --self nom by <sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </font>]]</span></sub> 00:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*...that according to [[Hindu]] legend, the [[yogi]] '''[[Visoba Khechara]]''' taught his disciple poet-saint [[Namdev]] the omnipresence of God by magically filling a whole temple with [[linga]]s - the symbols of god [[Shiva]]? self nom. new article--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 05:30, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

===Articles created/expanded on November 19===
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[[Image:Caspar David Friedrich 013.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*...that in '''''[[The Stages of Life]]''''' (pictured) [[Caspar David Friedrich]] depicted his son Gustav holding a Swedish flag because he considered himself half-Swedish? (self-nom, expanded by [[User:Ceoil]]) -- [[User:Lithoderm|Lithoderm]] ([[User talk:Lithoderm|talk]]) 19:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Jerry Ziesmer]]''', who spoke the line "[[Terminate with extreme prejudice]]" in the film ''[[Apocalypse Now]]'', was given the role unexpectedly by [[Francis Ford Coppola]] because the original actor had a cough? ~ New article by [[User:Wikidemon|Wikidemon]]; nominated by <font face="Helvetica">[[User:Hassocks5489|<font color="#00BFFF"><b>Hassocks</b></font>]][[User talk:Hassocks5489|<font color="#228B22">5489<small> (tickets please!)</small></font>]]</font> 13:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC).
: Suggest: "spoke" --> "delivered". --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.18.119|74.14.18.119]] ([[User talk:74.14.18.119|talk]]) 18:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Cavelier de la salle.jpg|right|100x100px|Robert de LaSalle]]
*... that French explorer [[René-Robert Cavelier, Sieur de La Salle|Robert de LaSalle]] ''(pictured)'' was murdered by a member of his own expedition while trying to '''[[La Salle Expeditions|locate the Mississippi River]]''' in 1687? -- new article by [[User:Charles Edward]]; nom by [[User:Bruce1ee|Bruce1ee]]<sup>[[User talk:Bruce1ee|talk]]</sup> 08:58, 21 November 2008 (UTC) 

[[Image:Uskmouth power station.jpg|right|100x100px|Uskmouth Power Station]]
*... that '''[[Uskmouth Power Station]]''' ''(pictured)'' is one of the cleanest [[Fossil fuel power plant|coal-fired power stations]] in the [[United Kingdom]]? -- new article by [[User:Fintan264]]; nom by [[User:Bruce1ee|Bruce1ee]]<sup>[[User talk:Bruce1ee|talk]]</sup> 07:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC) 
:*[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] Length, date and hook verified; however "has been described as one of the cleanest" may be more appropriate in the hook, since these statements are open to considerable debate, and the sources appear to be (loosely) linking back to the Uskmouth-B owners themselves. &mdash; [[User:BillC|BillC]]  <sup>[[User talk:BillC|talk]]</sup> 18:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Chester Beach.jpg|right|100x100px|Chester Beach]]
*... that when American [[sculptor]] '''[[Chester Beach]]''' ''(pictured)'' was selected to the [[National Academy of Design]], he was its youngest member? (self-nom) {{User|Howcheng}} 22:13, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that in 13th century [[Old Norse]] '''''[[Bartholomeus saga postola]]''''', a "[[devil]]" says that [[Jesus]] "made war on [[Hel (being)|Hel]] our queen"? [[User:Bloodofox|:bloodofox:]] ([[User talk:Bloodofox|talk]]) 21:36, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the '''[[Sharp Nemesis]]''' has been called the most successful air racing plane in aviation history? New, self-nom. '''[[User:Akradecki|<font style="color:#62BB32;">AK<font style="color:#006400;">Radecki</font></font>]]'''<sup>[[User_talk:Akradecki|<font style="color:#62BB32;">Speaketh</font>]]</sup> 03:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
**I changed "is considered" to "has been called."  It's just better that way. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 03:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

* ... that the 350 acre '''[[Mar Y Cel]]''' estate, built in the early 1900s in the foothills of [[California]]'s [[Santa Ynez Mountains]], included an [[aqueduct]], water works, arches, and statues? (new; self nom) --[[User:Rosiestep|Rosiestep]] ([[User talk:Rosiestep|talk]]) 23:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Mieczysław Jagielski]]''' negotiated the agreement which recognized [[Solidarity]] as the first independent trade union within the [[Eastern Bloc]]?  Article expanded fivefold by [[User:Piotrus]] and [[User:Terrakyte|Terrakyte]] ([[User talk:Terrakyte|talk]]) 23:20, 19 November 2008 (UTC).

[[Image:Royal Cortissoz.jpg|right|100x100px|Royal Cortissoz]]
*... that traditionalist American [[art critic]] '''[[Royal Cortissoz]]''' ''(pictured)'' denigrated the work of modern masters such as [[Vincent van Gogh]] as being the product of "[[egotism|egotists]]"? (self-nom) NOTE: the sentence in the article is not directly cited because it summarizes about 6 pages' worth of commentary in the source. Footnote 7 (Morgan, 84) is for the direct quote, but he calls Van Gogh egotistical on page 81 of the source. {{User|Howcheng}} 21:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that in his first game pitching in the major leagues, '''[[Pat Underwood]]''' of the [[Detroit Tigers]] won the game 1-0, defeating his brother, [[Tom Underwood|Tom]], the starting pitcher for the [[Toronto Blue Jays]]? -- fivefold expansion, self nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 21:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Jane Brody]]''' had majored in [[biochemistry]] in college but became a journalist to "help people lead better lives", and her Personal Health column has been syndicated to more than 100 papers nationwide? -- new article, self nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 20:36, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[college football]]'s top prospective [[linebacker]] recruit for 2009, Jelani Jenkins, has narrowed his potential choices to a field of fifteen, including the '''[[2009 Maryland Terrapins football team|2009 Maryland Terrapins]]'''? -- new article self-nom by [[User:Strikehold|Strikehold]] [[User:Strikehold|Strikehold]] ([[User talk:Strikehold|talk]]) 17:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
: Jelani Jenkins? Who? You're not going to ''connect'' with too many readers on the main page. --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.18.119|74.14.18.119]] ([[User talk:74.14.18.119|talk]]) 18:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the '''''[[Old English Gospel of Nicodemus]]''''' features a female figure named ''Seo hell'' who tells [[Satan]] to leave her dwelling and has been compared to the female being [[Hel (being)|Hel]] of [[Norse mythology]]? <small>New article, self-nomination. Important to note that [[Hel (being)]] is a "being" as there is also [[Hel (location)]] from Norse mythology, and Hel is never explicitly referred to as a goddess in surviving sources.</small> [[User:Bloodofox|:bloodofox:]] ([[User talk:Bloodofox|talk]]) 15:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that in 1967, Dr. '''[[Adrian Kantrowitz]]''' performed the world's second human [[heart transplant]], in a procedure on a 19-day-old infant at [[Maimonides Medical Center]] in [[Brooklyn]], [[New York]]? -- five-fold expansion, self-nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 14:15, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[United States|American]] [[illustrator]], [[Painting|painter]] and [[printmaker]] '''[[Ella Sophonisba Hergesheimer]]''' (1873&ndash;1943) was the great-great granddaughter of Philadelphia artist [[Charles Willson Peale]]? -- new article self-nom by [[User:Alphageekpa|Alphageekpa]] ([[User talk:Alphageekpa|talk]]) 10:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

* ... that spores from species of the mushroom genus '''''[[Calostoma]]''''' been examined with both [[scanning probe microscopy |scanning probe]] and [[atomic force microscopy]]?-- new article self-nom by [[User:Sasata|Sasata]] ([[User talk:Sasata|talk]]) 08:58, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

* ... that when [[American Broadcasting Company|ABC]]'s [[Birmingham, Alabama]], affiliate [[WBMA-LP]] refused to air the ''[[Ellen (TV series)|Ellen]]'' coming out '''"[[The Puppy Episode]]"''', a local LGBT group sold out a 5000-seat theatre so people could watch it via satellite? OR
:* ... that the name of the ''[[Ellen (TV series)|Ellen]]'' coming out episode '''"[[The Puppy Episode]]"''' was drawn from a producer's suggestion that since character Ellen Morgan showed little interest in dating she should get a puppy? new aticle, self-nom. [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] ([[User talk:Otto4711|talk]]) 06:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the [[World Wrestling Entertainment|World Wrestling Federation]]'s first [[Professional wrestling match types#Container-based variations|coffin match]] took place at '''[[Survivor Series (1992)|Survivor Series 1992]]''' between [[The Undertaker]] and [[Kamala (wrestler)|Kamala]]? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by [[User:GaryColemanFan|GaryColemanFan]] ([[User talk:GaryColemanFan|talk]]) 04:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
:* or ... that [[The Undertaker]] defeated [[Kamala (wrestler)|Kamala]] in the [[World Wrestling Entertainment|World Wrestling Federation]]'s first [[Professional wrestling match types#Container-based variations|coffin match]] at '''[[Survivor Series (1992)|Survivor Series 1992]]'''? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by [[User:GaryColemanFan|GaryColemanFan]] ([[User talk:GaryColemanFan|talk]]) 04:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that while '''[[George Hysteron-Proteron]]''' was still in the [[wikt:cot|cot]], he shot his [[nanny]] in the backside with a [[Pea shooter (toy)|pea-shooter]]? - self-nom by [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 03:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the '''[[1996 Orange Bowl (December)|1996 Orange Bowl]]''' had the least attendance of any [[Orange Bowl (game)|Orange Bowl]] since 1947? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by [[User:JKBrooks85|JKBrooks85]] ([[User talk:JKBrooks85|talk]]) 01:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that during the [[War of 1812]], '''[[Grenadier Island (Saint Lawrence River)|Grenadier Island]]''', [[Canada]], served as a military outpost? new article, self nom. [[User:Bsimmons666|'''Bsimmons<font color="#990000">666</font>''']] ([[User_talk:Bsimmons666|talk]]) <sup><small>[[User:Bsimmons666/Friends|Friend?]]</small></sup> 01:06, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Charles Dinsmoor]]''' invented the endless chain tractor in 1886, forerunner of the [[continuous track]] vehicle? new article, self nom by --[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 01:04, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Association football|footballer]] '''[[Tommy Magee]]''' is the only [[West Bromwich Albion F.C.|West Bromwich Albion]] player to have won both a [[English football champions|League Championship]] medal and an [[FA Cup]] winners' medal with the club? -- new article self-nom by [[User:Jameboy|Jameboy]] ([[User talk:Jameboy|talk]]) 01:00, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the [[bell tower]] of the '''[[Bărboi Church]]''' in [[Iaşi]], [[Romania]] is over a century older than the present church, and once contained a private library? -- self-nom by [[User:Biruitorul|Biruitorul]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Biruitorul|Talk]]</sup></small> 23:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Mackaystatue.jpg|100x100px|right|statue of George Mackay in Tamsui today]]
*... that in the [[Sino-French War]], [[Presbyterianism|Presbyterian]] [[missionary]] [[George Leslie Mackay|George Mackay]] ''(bust pictured)'' refused to leave during the '''[[Battle of Tamsui|French bombardment of Tamsui]]''' in October 1884 because he could not take his [[Taiwanese people|Formosan]] [[Religious conversion|converts]] with him? -- new article by {{user|Djwilms}}, nom. by [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 04:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Uncial 0212]]''' could be the only surviving manuscript of the [[Greek]] [[Diatessaron]], a [[Gospel harmony]] ? -- new article by [[User:Leszek Jańczuk]]; Nom by [[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 14:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
:*'''Alt''': ... that '''[[Uncial 0212]]''' is the first manuscript of [[Greek]] [[Diatessaron]], a [[Gospel harmony]], to be discovered in modern time ? --[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 06:16, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

===Articles created/expanded on November 18===
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*... that [[lifeboat]] builder '''[[Henry Greathead]]''' was awarded £1,200 by the [[House of Commons]] for his work? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by [[User:Derek Andrews|Derek Andrews]] ([[User talk:Derek Andrews|talk]]) 16:21, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
**I bolded it and removed "pioneering" from "pioneering lifeboat builder." &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 16:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the '''[[Minatogawa Man]]''' is among the oldest complete skeletons of modern humans recovered in [[East Asia]]? - created by {{user|Jorge Stolfi}}, nom by [[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 13:07, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the 1890 novel '''[[Tom Playfair]]''', telling of the adventures of a 10-year-old at an all-boys [[Jesuit]] [[boarding school]], has been compared to [[Harry Potter]]? new article by {{user|Daubmir}}, nom. by {{user|cbl62}} [[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 08:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::The hook needs better support at this time.  I'm going to work on it.[[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 08:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:President Rutherford Hayes 1870 - 1880.jpg|right|100x100px|Rutherford B. Hayes]]
*... that U.S. President [[Rutherford B. Hayes]] ''(pictured)'' considered the '''[[History of the Ohio State University|founding of Ohio State University]]''' one his two greatest achievements? new article by {{user|ChicJanowicz}}, nom. by {{user|cbl62}} [[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 07:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::It would be good timing if this hook could be featured on Saturday -- the day of "The Game" between Michigan and Ohio State.[[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 07:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that a report published by '''[[Dalberg Global Development Advisors|Dalberg]]''' for the US government on the energy sector in India played a crucial role in the success of the [[Indo-US civilian nuclear agreement]]? (moved to mainspace on 18th; self nom) [[User:Zithan|Zithan]] ([[User talk:Zithan|talk]]) 20:04, 20 November 2008 (UTC) 

*... that the 1806 settlement of '''[[Chinese Trinidadian|Chinese in Trinidad]]''' was the first organised settlement of [[Chinese people]] in the Caribbean, preceding the importation of Chinese indentured labour by over 40 years? (Fivefold expansion starting Nov. 18)  [[User:Guettarda|Guettarda]] ([[User talk:Guettarda|talk]]) 18:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Hittin-Khalidi-1934.JPG|100x100px|right]]
*... that '''[[Hittin]]''' was a [[Palestinian people|Palestinian]] village located near the site of the [[Battle of Hattin]], where [[Saladin]] defeated the [[Crusade]]rs in [[1187]]? (fivefold expansion beginning Nov. 18, co-nom with [[User:Huldra]] and [[User:Al Ameer son]] [[User:Tiamut|<b><font color="#B93B8F">T</font><font color="#800000">i</font><font color="#B93B8F">a</font><font color="#800000">m</font><font color="#B93B8F">u</font><font color="#800000">t</font></b>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Tiamut|talk]]</sup> 14:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC) 

*... that after a plane crash killed the [[Governor of Oregon]] and the next two people in line for that office, the new governor’s first act was to appoint '''[[Earl T. Newbry]]''' as Secretary of State? (article by [[User:Emk4ever]]) [[User:Aboutmovies|Aboutmovies]] ([[User talk:Aboutmovies|talk]]) 09:35, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:: It looks good, this is a significant event in Oregon history, worthy of DYK mention. I made a slight grammatical change. -[[User:Peteforsyth|Pete]] ([[User talk:Peteforsyth|talk]]) 09:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the '''[[human bocavirus]]''' is the fourth most commonly found [[virus]] in samples collected from the [[respiratory system]]? -- new article by {{user|Stevenfruitsmaak}}, nom. by [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 04:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the authority of '''[[Committeemen and Committeewomen (Cook County)|Committeemen and Committeewomen]]''' in [[Chicago]] and {{city-state|Cook County|Illinois}}, varies so that some committeemen control their wards and others are controlled by other ward leaders?--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 18:40, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:ConstantineMoorsom.jpg|100x100px|right|Constantine Moorsom]]
*... that '''[[Constantine Richard Moorsom|Vice Admiral Constantine Moorsom]]''' ''(pictured)'', chairman of the [[London & North Western Railway]], was listed as a crew member at the [[Battle of Trafalgar]]? (the ref says he wasn't there, but the hook (which is well reported) is true) self-nom [[User:Victuallers|Victuallers]] ([[User talk:Victuallers|talk]]) 22:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the '''[[Sclerodermataceae]]''', a family of fungi, contains species with common names such as 'hard-skinned puffballs', 'earthstars' and 'prettymouths'? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by [[User:Sasata|Sasata]] ([[User talk:Sasata|talk]]) 05:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that ''[[The Atlantic Monthly]]'' ran an article titled "Mother Doesn't Do Much" by '''[[Catherine Galbraith]]''' about her role as an ambassador's wife in [[India]] after her son wrote a school essay using those words? -- new article, self-nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 03:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that as a result of the [[Her Majesty's Government|British government]]'s actions during the '''[[winter of 1946-1947]]''' the [[Ministry of Fuel and Power|Minister of Fuel and Power]], [[Emanuel Shinwell]], received a bomb threat?
:*or ... that the '''[[winter of 1946-1947]]''' saw [[ice floe]]s off the coast of [[East Anglia]] in the [[United Kingdom]]?
:*or ... that the food shortages during the '''[[winter of 1946-1947]]''' saw [[United Kingdom|British]] farmers using [[pneumatic drill]]s to harvest [[parsnip]]s? 5 times expansion, self nom.  There are plenty of other interesting facts in this article but I think the ones above are the best - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 00:05, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
: Re-name as "[[Winter of 1946-1947]] in Britain"? --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.18.119|74.14.18.119]] ([[User talk:74.14.18.119|talk]]) 19:01, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Stratford Shakespeare 1900.jpg|100x100px|right]]
*... that '''[[Shakespeare's Birthplace]]''' is a restored [[Timber framing|half-timbered]] house situated in Henley Street, [[Stratford-upon-Avon]], England, where it is believed that [[William Shakespeare]] was born and spent his childhood? (self-nom, new article) --[[User:Red Sunset|Red]] [[User talk:Red Sunset|<font style="color:#AA0000;">Su<font style="color:#DD0000;">ns<font style="color:#FF0000;">et</font></font></font>]] 21:58, 18 November 2008 (UTC) 
::[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] At 216 characters, this hook is ineligible, but there's still time to suggest another. --[[User:Rosiestep|Rosiestep]] ([[User talk:Rosiestep|talk]]) 23:27, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I deleted 16 characters. [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] ([[User talk:Otto4711|talk]]) 01:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
:*or... that '''[[Shakespeare's Birthplace]]''' is a restored [[Timber framing|half-timbered]] house in Henley Street, [[Stratford-upon-Avon]], England, where it is believed that [[William Shakespeare]] was born and spent his childhood? (removed "situated") --[[User:Red Sunset|Red]] [[User talk:Red Sunset|<font style="color:#AA0000;">Su<font style="color:#DD0000;">ns<font style="color:#FF0000;">et</font></font></font>]] 19:05, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
:*or... that American showman [[P. T. Barnum]] proposed to buy '''[[Shakespeare's Birthplace]]''' and ship it brick-by-brick back to the US? (a bit more interesting) --[[User:Red Sunset|Red]] [[User talk:Red Sunset|<font style="color:#AA0000;">Su<font style="color:#DD0000;">ns<font style="color:#FF0000;">et</font></font></font>]] 21:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC) I agree, I was unmoved to find ... that [[Shakespeare's Birthplace|his birthplace]] was the [[Shakespeare's Birthplace|place where he thought to have been born]]? [[User:Victuallers|Victuallers]] ([[User talk:Victuallers|talk]]) 22:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Sayako Princess Nori 001 detail.jpg|100x100px|right|Kuroda Sayako]]
*... that the former [[Imperial House of Japan|Japanese princess]] [[Kuroda Sayako|Sayako]] ''(pictured)'' was a researcher at the '''[[Yamashina Institute for Ornithology]]''' specializing in the study of [[kingfishers]]? <self-nom> --[[User:MChew|MChew]] ([[User talk:MChew|talk]]) 14:48, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[K-B-D]]''', a [[triliteral]] root meaning "heavy" that is common to all [[Semitic]] languages, appears in the [[Old Testament]] 376 times? (self-nom, new article)[[User:Tiamut|<b><font color="#B93B8F">T</font><font color="#800000">i</font><font color="#B93B8F">a</font><font color="#800000">m</font><font color="#B93B8F">u</font><font color="#800000">t</font></b>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Tiamut|talk]]</sup> 13:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC) 

[[Image:Nabi Rubin Festival-Khalidi.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that according to [[Islam]]ic tradition, [[Reuben (Bible)|Reuben]] is buried in the former [[Palestinian people|Arab]] village of '''''[[Nabi Rubin]]''''' ''(pictured)'', where up to 30,000 [[Muslim]]s participated in an annual religious festival before its capture by [[Israel]] in 1948? (self-nom) --[[User:Al Ameer son|Al Ameer son]] ([[User talk:Al Ameer son|talk]]) 05:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Symbol question.svg|18px]] The article says Israelis won't let Arabs live there permanently, and Israelis turned a Muslim shrine into a Jewish shrine. Please forgive my unfamiliarity with Mideast politics, but neither the hook nor the article answers this question: Do the Israelis forbid Muslims from making their pilgrimage anyway? [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 06:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
::Hi Art LaPella. If I may, I think the festival just ended because in the wake of 1948 war, the 150,000 Arabs that remained within Israel and became citizens, needed travel permits to go from place to place. Israel was under [[Martial law#Israel]]. That would make getting 30,000 people together to go to a festival rather difficult since I doubt all 30,000 would be able to get a permit at the time. So though there may very well have been no official proclamation cancelling the festival, it would have been impossible to organize under the general circumstances. Note that martial law continued until 1967, and by that time, people would have gotten used to not having the festival and it would be difficult to reignite the tradition. Just my two cents. [[User:Tiamut|<b><font color="#B93B8F">T</font><font color="#800000">i</font><font color="#B93B8F">a</font><font color="#800000">m</font><font color="#B93B8F">u</font><font color="#800000">t</font></b>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Tiamut|talk]]</sup> 17:39, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I sort of revised the "pilgrimage" part of the hook to reflect that in the article. In the Benvenisti source, it says it was not celebrated in the year of the war, but does not say if Muslims were forbidden to visit it. I'm sure they're allowed, but a festival of even close to such magnitude hasn't occurred since the village's capture. --[[User:Al Ameer son|Al Ameer son]] ([[User talk:Al Ameer son|talk]]) 22:40, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, the article mentions that most of the pilgrims came from the surrounding cities like Lydda, Ramleh and Jaffa. In those cities *at least* 90 % of the Arab population were expelled (outside Israels borders). So of the 30 000 people who attended pre-1948, only, say, a maximum of 2-3000 would have a theoretical possibility to attend post-48. And as Tiamut mentions above: they all needed travelling-permit. And from what I have read about those times: they were very difficult times for the non-Jews of Israel, I think celebrating at festivals was very low on their list of priorities. Regards, [[User:Huldra|Huldra]] ([[User talk:Huldra|talk]]) 17:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*...  that '''[[Worthy S. Streator|Worthy Streator]]''' never set foot in the city of [[Streator, Illinois]], the town named for him, even though it was founded 36 years before his death? -- new article and self-nom by [[User:Ljmajer|Ljmajer]] ([[User talk:Ljmajer|talk]]) 08:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
:*'''ALT''' ... that '''[[Worthy S. Streator|Worthy Streator]]''' offered his friend, future president, [[James Garfield|James A. Garfield]] $10,000 of free stock if Garfield would convince the Am. Central Railroad to “bend the railroad” to [[Streator, Illinois|Streator’s]] coal mine? -- new article and self-nom by [[User:Ljmajer|Ljmajer]] ([[User talk:Ljmajer|talk]]) 07:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:*'''ALT #2''' ... that '''[[Worthy S. Streator|Worthy Streator]]''' was a pallbearer at the funeral of U.S. President [[James A. Garfield]], and later helped finance the [[Lake View Cemetery|Garfield Monument]], the first true mausoleum in the United States?-- new article and self-nom by [[User:Ljmajer|Ljmajer]] ([[User talk:Ljmajer|talk]]) 07:24, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the presence of [[Indole|indoleic acid]] in one's [[urine]] may indicate a '''[[Hypertryptophanemia|pathological accumulation]]''' of the [[amino acid]] [[tryptophan]] in the [[blood]]? -- new article by {{user|Rcej}}, nom. by [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 01:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Ngo Dinh Diem]]'s '''[[Ngo Dinh Diem presidential visit to the United States|presidential visit to the United States]]''' in 1957 was only the second time that [[Dwight D. Eisenhower]] had greeted a guest in person at the airport? '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<font color="GoldenRod">YellowMonkey</font>]]''' (''[[User talk:YellowMonkey#Straw_poll_for_selecting_photos_of_Australia_at_the_2008_Summer_Olympics|<font color="#FA8605">click here to choose Australia's next top model!</font>]]'') 05:56, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
: You might want to use [[Commons:Image:Ngo Dinh Diem at Washington - ARC 542189.gif|this picture]] at WCommons. Crop as you like. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 23:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Brown Mountain 02 Pengo.jpg|100x100px|right]]
*... that '''[[Brown Mountain forest]]''' in [[East Gippsland]], [[Victoria (Australia)|Victoria]] is home to mainland [[Australia]]'s largest [[marsupial]] carnivore, the [[Spotted Quoll]]? -- new article by [[User:Peter Campbell|Peter Campbell]]; Nom by [[User:Pengo|Pengo]] —[[User:Pengo|Pengo]] 21:54, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Agnieszka Pilchowa]]''', a noted [[Clairvoyance|clairvoyant]] in the [[Second Polish Republic]], was also a [[herbalist]] who treated [[Prime Minister of the Republic of Poland|Prime Minister]] [[Józef Piłsudski]] and [[President of the Republic of Poland|President]] [[Ignacy Mościcki]]? -- new article by {{user|Tymek}}, nom. by [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 16:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

===Articles created/expanded on November 17===
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*...that '''[[INS Tabar (F44)|INS ''Tabar'']]''', a [[Talwar class frigate]] has successfully escorted about 35 ships including many non-Indian flagged vessels, safely during the transit through the pirate-infested waters near the horn of Africa? -new-article, nom by -- [[User:Swapnils2106|Swapnils2106]] ([[User talk:Swapnils2106|talk]]) 08:08, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
: [[Image:Symbol question.svg|18px]] How is this a new article ??. [[INS Tabar]] is a redirect to [[INS Tabar (F44)]] created on  16 April 2006 ! -- [[User:Tinucherian|'''<em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu</em>''']] [[User talk:Tinucherian|'''<em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian </em>''']] - 09:34, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::I suppose the nominator means recent expansion (though at a glance I'm not sure it's fivefold). —<font face="georgia">[[User:97198|<b>97198</b>]] <small>([[User talk:97198|talk]])</small></font> 11:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::: Looking at page [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=INS_Tabar_%28F44%29&diff=253163530&oldid=253018838 history ] there was no 5 fold expansion on nov 21, I am afraid it is not a valid DYK nom :( -- [[User:Tinucherian|'''<em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu</em>''']] [[User talk:Tinucherian|'''<em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian </em>''']] - 12:40, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Expansion began on Nov 17 and was 5x (700 to 4100).  Moving from Nov 21. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 15:08, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that hindcasts and forecasts using '''[[ocean surface wave model]]s''' are extremely important for commercial interests on the [[high seas]]? - created by {{user|Scholar743}}, nominated by [[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 13:19, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
: "important"?  a little PEACOCK/POV-ish? --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.18.119|74.14.18.119]] ([[User talk:74.14.18.119|talk]]) 19:05, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Flora Perini 2 cropped.jpg|right|100px|Flora Perini]]
*... that the [[Italian people|Italian]] [[mezzo-soprano]] '''[[Flora Perini]]''' created the role of the Princess in the original 1918 production of [[Puccini]]'s ''[[Suor Angelica]]'' at the [[Metropolitan Opera]]? New article self nom[[User:Nrswanson|Nrswanson]] ([[User talk:Nrswanson|talk]]) 07:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC) credit should also go to [[user:voceditenore]] for the great photos

*... that [[Navy Midshipmen football|Navy]] discontinued '''[[Crab Bowl|its football series]]''' with [[Maryland Terrapins football|Maryland]] for forty years after Terrapins' linebacker Jerry Fishman twice '[[Finger (gesture)|flipped the bird]]' to the Brigade of Midshipmen during the 1964 game? -- new article by [[User:Strikehold]], self-nom [[User:Strikehold|Strikehold]] ([[User talk:Strikehold|talk]]) 16:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
**[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] No source to the fact that this rivalry is referred to as "The Crab Bowl."  I'm not doubting that, but it is symptomatic of a deeper problem in the article: from my cursory glance, there's not even verification for the fact that this rivalry exists as a specific entity (as opposed to it just being a rivalry that you came up with in your head after looking at various sources on the teams' histories with one another and deciding that there was a rivalry there).  Again, I'm not saying that it's wrong; rather, I'm saying that as the article currently stands, the very premise of the article is presented as being original research.  Before anything else can even be worried about with this article, you need to supply some sources talking about the very concept of the Crab Bowl (rather than talking about specific incidents such as the middle fingering) to verify that the subject of this article is a real entity. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 02:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
***Thanks for the feedback. I have addressed these concerns and greatly improved and expanded the article. Please re-review for nomination. Thanks again. [[User:Strikehold|Strikehold]] ([[User talk:Strikehold|talk]]) 06:09, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Parke Godwin (journalist)|Parke Godwin]]''' was an associate editor for ''[[Putnam's Magazine]]'' and worked with [[Charles Frederick Briggs]] and [[George William Curtis]]?  --self nom of new article; I know it's not particularly exciting but there it is. --[[User:Midnightdreary|Midnightdreary]] ([[User talk:Midnightdreary|talk]]) 15:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
**'''ALT1''': ... that the American abolitionist '''[[Parke Godwin (journalist)|Parke Godwin]]''' criticized then-president [[Franklin Pierce]] in an essay entitled "American Despotisms"? &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 02:19, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I appreciate and support the suggestion! I question the use of the term "abolitionist" as the sole qualifier; I recommend "journalist" or "editor" for Godwin. --[[User:Midnightdreary|Midnightdreary]] ([[User talk:Midnightdreary|talk]]) 20:30, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''''[[Father Goose: His Book]]''''', an 1899 collection of poetry for children and considered at the time a liberal portrayal of [[Multiculturalism|multi-cultural]] [[United States|America]], is now seen as stereotyped, racist and offensive? -- new article by [[User:Ugajin]]; nom by [[User:Bruce1ee|Bruce1ee]]<sup>[[User talk:Bruce1ee|talk]]</sup> 05:54, 19 November 2008 (UTC) 
**[[Image:Symbol question.svg|18px]] Comment left at article talk page for cleaning up the section where this fact is located. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 02:22, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
***I've also left a message on [[User:Ugajin]]'s talk page. --[[User:Bruce1ee|Bruce1ee]]<sup>[[User talk:Bruce1ee|talk]]</sup> 06:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
****The section has now been tidied by the creator (replaced with a quote from the book). --[[User:Bruce1ee|Bruce1ee]]<sup>[[User talk:Bruce1ee|talk]]</sup> 06:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Seoul Gyeongbokgung Throne.jpg|right|100x100px|Irworobongdo]]
*... that '''''[[Irworobongdo]]''''' ''(pictured)'' is a [[Korea]]n [[folding Screen|folding screen]] with a stylized [[landscape painting]] for symbolizing the political [[cosmology]] of the [[Joseon Dynasty]]? -- new article by [[User:Msrasnw]] and nominated by [[User talk:Caspian blue|'''Caspian''' blue]] 01:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
**[[Image:Symbol question.svg|18px]] I like this hook and want to see it make the main page.  Right now, though, there are very few inline citations; please try to beef up the referencing within the article and then give us a nudge once it's ready.  I would help with what's there, except unfortunately I can't read 한글 (although I f-ing love typing it...oh boy oh boy). &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 02:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC) 
***Thank you for the notice. I will implement the inline sourcing. --[[User talk:Caspian blue|'''Caspian''' blue]] 05:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
****I think these English links[http://english.visitkorea.or.kr/enu/SI/SI_EN_3_6.jsp?cid=259914][http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:sCOhOM0eC8oJ:sunzi1.lib.hku.hk/hkjo/view/22/2200381.pdf+A.+Sun,+moon,+and+Five+Peaks&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a] would suffice to verify the hook and overall contents. Thanks--[[User talk:Caspian blue|'''Caspian''' blue]] 15:02, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
*****[[Image:Symbol question.svg|18px]] Currently on hold pending article improvements (see nominator's talk page), will be re-reviewed after those are done. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 23:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Natsume Sōseki]]'s 1905 novel '''''[[Kairo-kō]]''''' is the earliest, and only major, prose treatment of the Arthurian legend in the [[Japanese language]]? -- new article, self nom by [[User:Cuchullain|Cúchullain]] [[User talk:Cuchullain|<sup>t</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Cuchullain|<small>c</small>]] 21:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that research by physician '''[[I. Bernard Weinstein]]''' investigated the [[carcinogen|cancer-causing]] potential of such foods as [[barbecue]]d and [[cured meat]]? -- new article, self nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 19:55, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that American economist '''[[Franklin M. Fisher]]''', who received the [[John Bates Clark Medal]] in 1973, has taught economics at the [[Massachusetts Institute of Technology]] since 1960? new article by [[User:AdjustShift|AdjustShift]] ([[User talk:AdjustShift|talk]]) 15:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
*:'''ALT 1''' ... that '''[[Franklin M. Fisher]]''', who was the chief economic witness for [[IBM]] in its antitrust confrontation with the [[United States Department of Justice]], also served a similar role on behalf of the Department of Justice in the case of ''[[United States v. Microsoft]]''? [[User:AdjustShift|AdjustShift]] ([[User talk:AdjustShift|talk]]) 16:11, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Reagan-343.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that '''[[Walter Scott Lenox]]''' made the first set of American made [[Porcelain|china]] [[dishware]] ''(replica pictured)'' for the [[White House]]? new article, self nominated by --[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 14:50, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
: Suggest: "American made" --> "domestically produced". --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.18.119|74.14.18.119]] ([[User talk:74.14.18.119|talk]]) 19:05, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Patrick David Wall]]''' published his first two papers at the age of 21 while still an undergraduate? New article, self-nom, easily past the word count. [[User:Ironholds|Ironholds]] ([[User talk:Ironholds|talk]]) 06:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Bordeaux wine]] estate '''[[Château d'Angludet]]''' was considered a fourth growth, until death and decline led to its omission from the [[Bordeaux Wine Official Classification of 1855]]? -- new article self-nom by [[User:Murgh|<font size="-1">M</font><font size="-3" >URGH</font>]] [[User talk:Murgh|<font size="-5"><sup>disc.</sup></font>]] 02:19, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
:*I'm concerned that there is no explanation in the article as to what a "fourth growth" is. [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] ([[User talk:Otto4711|talk]]) 01:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
::*<s>I understand, the explanation only comes with the 1855 link. Otherwise, [[first growth]] (or ''[[cru (wine)|cru]]'') don't feel appropriate to insert. </s>[[User:Murgh|<font size="-1">M</font><font size="-3" >URGH</font>]] [[User talk:Murgh|<font size="-5"><sup>disc.</sup></font>]] 01:42, 18 November 2008 (UTC)  An attempt at an explanation has been inserted. [[User:Murgh|<font size="-1">M</font><font size="-3" >URGH</font>]] [[User talk:Murgh|<font size="-5"><sup>disc.</sup></font>]] 12:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC) 

* ... that '''[[Ohaveth Sholum Congregation]]''', [[Seattle]]'s first [[Judaism|Jewish]] congregation, fell four days short of having the first [[Synagogues in Washington State|synagogue in Washington]]? - (new, self-nom) [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] | [[User talk:Jmabel|Talk]] 21:34, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''''[[The Hathaways]]''''', an unusual 1961–1962 [[American Broadcasting Company|ABC]] [[sitcom]], featured [[Peggy Cass]] and [[Jack Weston]] as "parents" to the three Marquis Chimps? --self-nom [[User:Billy Hathorn|Billy Hathorn]] ([[User talk:Billy Hathorn|talk]]) 22:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
**[[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|18px]] Article is poorly referenced.  (refs from IMDB, some geocities page, etc.) &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 04:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:José María Rojas Garrido.jpg|right|100x100px|José María Rojas Garrido]]
*... that '''[[José María Rojas Garrido]]''' ''(pictured)'' assumed the presidency of the [[United States of Colombia]] for less than two months in [[1886]] due to the absence of the then [[president-elect]] [[Tomás Cipriano de Mosquera]]? --self-nom [[User:Mijotoba|mijotoba]] ([[User talk:Mijotoba|talk]]) 00:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

===Articles created/expanded on November 16===
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[[Image:La Boheme Mimi Costume.jpg|right|100x100px|Cesira Ferrani]]
*... that [[opera|operatic]] [[soprano]] '''[[Cesira Ferrani]]''' originated two of the most iconic roles in opera history, Mimi ''(pictured)'' in the 1896 world premiere of [[Giacomo Puccini]]'s ''[[La bohème]]'' and the title role in Puccini's ''[[Manon Lescaut (Puccini)|Manon Lescaut]]'' in the original 1893 production? 10 fold expansion, self nom by[[User:Nrswanson|Nrswanson]] ([[User talk:Nrswanson|talk]]) 07:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC) Credit should also go to [[user:voceditenore]] for the great photo, copy edits, and quotes.

*... that [[opera]] superstar '''[[Giuseppe Cremonini]]''''s career was tragically cut short upon his sudden and unexpected death at the age of 36? new article self nom by[[User:Nrswanson|Nrswanson]] ([[User talk:Nrswanson|talk]]) 06:32, 20 November 2008 (UTC) Credit should also go to [[user:voceditenore]] for the great photo and copy edits.

*... that '''[[Les West]]''' won the [[Tour of Britain]] Milk Race in 1965 and 1967? Article created by [[User talk:Les woodland]], nominated by [[User:Autodidactyl|Autodidactyl]] ([[User talk:Autodidactyl|talk]]) 12:57, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
:or ... that '''[[Les West|Les West's]]''' victorious cycle racing career spans 47 years from 1960 to 2006, and includes two victories in the [[Tour of Britain]]?

*... that the '''[[White horse (mythology)|white horse in mythology]]''' while associated with the sun chariot, warrior-heroes, fertility or an end time saviour, sometimes has seven heads, eight feet or speaks?  — nom new article by [[User:WikiJedits|WikiJedits]] ([[User talk:WikiJedits|talk]]) ... [[User:Julia Rossi|Julia Rossi]] ([[User talk:Julia Rossi|talk]]) 01:56, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Valvata utahensis shell.jpg|right|100px|Valvata utahensis]]
*... that the '''[[Utah roundmouth snail]]''' ('''''Valvata utahensis''''') ''(pictured)'' is [[Local extinction|extirpated]] from [[Utah]]? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by [[User:Snek01|Snek01]] ([[User talk:Snek01|talk]]) 00:06, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Kotor.bastion.JPG|right|100x100px|Kampana tower, Kotor]]
*... that the '''[[fortifications of Kotor]]''' represent one of the best examples of defensive [[Republic of Venice|Venetian]] [[military engineering|military architecture]]? new, self-nom - [[User:Ekem|Ekem]] ([[User talk:Ekem|talk]]) 17:24, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
**[[Image:Symbol question.svg|18px]] The hook is unclear.  Does it mean these fortifications were some of the best-built out of all Venetian military architecture...or does it mean that these are some of the best-preserved examples of what Venetian military architecture used to be like?  At first glance I thought the hook meant the first, but what seems to be in the article is the second.  Please clarify the hook. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 23:54, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
***The condition is not optimal as the article shows, there is damage from the earthquake and need for rehab, the documentation indicats it to be one of the "most important" examples, so it relates to the concept or planning and execution, and the hook should be:
::... that the '''[[fortifications of Kotor]]''' represent one of the most important examples of defensive [[Republic of Venice|Venetian]] [[military engineering|military architecture]]? [[User:Ekem|Ekem]] ([[User talk:Ekem|talk]]) 02:18, 21 November 2008 (UTC) 
:::[[Image:Symbol question.svg|18px]] That's still quite unclear.  What makes an architectural feature "important"? &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 05:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Rolland Todd]], [[Stu Inman]], [[Jack McCloskey]], and [[Kevin Pritchard]] have spent their entire [[National Basketball Association]] '''[[List of Portland Trail Blazers head coaches|coaching careers with the]]''' [[Portland Trail Blazers]]? new article, self-nom -- <font face="Chiller" size="3">'''[[User:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#FCB926">SRE.K.A<s>nnoyomous</s>.L.</span>]][[User talk:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#5C2F83">24</span>]]'''<sub>[[Special:Contributions/SRE.K.A.L.24|[c]]]</sub></font> 04:24, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
:*Note: article [[List of Portland Trail Blazers head coaches]], the nominator forgot to bold; the piping's a little tricky so I haven't tried myself. —<font face="georgia">[[User:97198|<b>97198</b>]] <small>([[User talk:97198|talk]])</small></font> 06:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
::*Second half of that hook is really overlinked. Try to come up with a new wording that doesn't require you to put three linked expressions together. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 07:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
:::*I really don't know how to do that... -- <font face="Chiller" size="3">'''[[User:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#FCB926">SRE.K.A<s>nnoyomous</s>.L.</span>]][[User talk:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#5C2F83">24</span>]]'''<sub>[[Special:Contributions/SRE.K.A.L.24|[c]]]</sub></font> 08:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
::::*'''ALT1''' ... that '''[[List of Portland Trail Blazers head coaches|four Portland Trail Blazers head coaches]]''' have spent their entire [[National Basketball Association]] coaching careers with the Trail Blazers? (Try this one on for size.) &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 15:16, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Thanks or doing an alternate. I just linked Trail Blazers just so you know. -- <font face="Chiller" size="3">'''[[User:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#FCB926">SRE.K.A<s>nnoyomous</s>.L.</span>]][[User talk:SRE.K.A.L.24|<span style="color:#5C2F83">24</span>]]'''<sub>[[Special:Contributions/SRE.K.A.L.24|[c]]]</sub></font> 00:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thanks but I don't think it needs to be linked.  Leaving it not linked emphasizes the fact that it's the same Trail Blazers as what was mentioned at the beginning of the hook; linking it presents it as "new" information (in the discursive sense), which it isn't exactly, since the Trail Blazers were mentioned at the beginning of the sentence. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 14:16, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Edward Sheehan]]''''s quotations from [[Richard Nixon]] in his 1976 book ''The Arabs, Israelis and Kissinger'' led to a [[United States Department of State|State Department]] search for the source of the leaks? -- new article, self-nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 04:02, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Flettner rotor bomblet.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that even though the '''[[Flettner rotor bomblet]]''' ''(pictured)'' was never mass-produced, [[William C. Patrick III]] called it "one of the better devices for disseminating microorganisms"? Self nom, should just make it in over 1,500 characters, pretty obscure topic though.: --[[User:IvoShandor|IvoShandor]] ([[User talk:IvoShandor|talk]]) 01:37, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
**We love obscure topics. Any weapon that was seriously considered (as in, it had a development contract) by the US or other major military power is notable enough, in my view. I've commented on an issue with the article itself on the talk. ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 11:45, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that though [[Wired (magazine)|Wired magazine]] called the [[video game]] '''[[Traxion (video game)|Traxion]]''' "the best thing they had on the show floor" at [[E3 2006]], publisher [[Lucas Arts]] canceled the game in early 2007? article expanded 5x, self nom. [[User:Bsimmons666|'''Bsimmons<font color="#990000">666</font>''']] ([[User_talk:Bsimmons666|talk]]) <sup><small>[[User:Bsimmons666/Friends|Friend?]]</small></sup> 01:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
**Note: I hesitate nominating this article because it is still [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Traxion (video game)|up for deletion]], but I am confident (overly confident, perhaps) that the nom will fail. In any case, I wouldn't expect this to be approved at least until the AfD is finished. [[User:Bsimmons666|'''Bsimmons<font color="#990000">666</font>''']] ([[User_talk:Bsimmons666|talk]]) <sup><small>[[User:Bsimmons666/Friends|Friend?]]</small></sup> 01:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Ravnedalen.jpg | right | 100 px  | Ravnedalen]]
*... that the park '''[[Ravnedalen, Kristiansand|Ravnedalen]]''' ''(pictured)'' in [[Kristiansand]] was constructed by Colonel '''[[Joseph Frantz Oscar Wergeland]]''' and his soldiers? --(new, self-nom). [[User:Oceanh|Oceanh]] ([[User talk:Oceanh|talk]]) 23:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC).

:* I unbolded Joseph Frantz Oscar Wergeland because it was created on the 11 and is too late for a DYK nom. Without having yet reviewed the content, the article on Ravnedalen is new enough to get a DYK.[[User:Nrswanson|Nrswanson]] ([[User talk:Nrswanson|talk]]) 17:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

::*OK. But the articles were both originally nominated under "Articles created/expanded on November 11", on 16 November, when '''Joseph Frantz Oscar Wergeland'''  was five days old, and '''Ravnedalen''' was 0 days old: [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Did_you_know&diff=prev&oldid=252251049 "→Articles created/expanded on November 11: nom."]. Then somebody decided to move the entry to this place, probably checking the creation date on "Ravnedalen" only: [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template_talk%3ADid_you_know&diff=252386535&oldid=252385693 "→Articles created/expanded on November 11: not meant to be here"] &ndash; [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template_talk%3ADid_you_know&diff=252386984&oldid=252386535 "→Articles created/expanded on November 16: reinsert in right place"]. Pity if that move should destroy the entry. (I bolded Joseph Frantz Oscar Wergeland again, since nobody commented in time, but feel free to unbold again if you disagree.) [[User:Oceanh|Oceanh]] ([[User talk:Oceanh|talk]]) 18:32, 20 November 2008 (UTC).

*... that [[Major League Baseball]] [[manager (baseball)|manager]] [[John McGraw]] had 2583 wins as the '''[[List of San Francisco Giants managers|New York Giants' manager]]'''? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by [[User:Rlendog|Rlendog]] ([[User talk:Rlendog|talk]]) 23:02, 16 November 2008 (UTC) 
::Since the team was in New York when managed by McGraw, shouldn't this say "as the '''[[List of San Francisco Giants managers|New York Giants' manager]]'''"?[[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 00:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Good point.  I changed the hook accordingly. [[User:Rlendog|Rlendog]] ([[User talk:Rlendog|talk]]) 18:25, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the success of '''''[[Gay Weddings]]''''' as [[counterprogramming]] to [[Super Bowl XXXVII]] led television network [[Bravo (US TV channel)|Bravo]] to develop additional [[LGBT]]-interest programming, including ''[[Queer Eye]]'' and ''[[Boy Meets Boy (TV series)|Boy Meets Boy]]''? - self-nom, new article, moved to article space today. Book reference available through Google book search. [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] ([[User talk:Otto4711|talk]]) 14:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
::<s>This article was created on Nov. 9, not Nov. 16.</s> [[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 00:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC)  Sorry, I didn't notice that had been moved from a sandbox.[[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 00:43, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
**[[Image:Symbol question.svg|18px]] No inline citation for the fact that Bravo's reason for airing it was as counterprogramming. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 15:24, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::*It is drawn from the Engstrom source noted in the middle of the following sentence. [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] ([[User talk:Otto4711|talk]]) 11:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::*[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Fine, it's verified.  I duplicated the ref at the appropriate location.  Just as a reminder for the future, the hook fact ''must'' have an inline citation right with it; having a ref at the end of the paragraph or even in a later sentence isn't really permissible, especially when the following sentence is "different" enough from the hook fact that it's hard to tell if it's from the same source.  This is even more important in the case of offline or foreign-language sources, which most readers don't have access to. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 15:19, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Minister of Defence (Norway)|Norwegian Minister of Defence]] '''[[Rolf Jacobsen (politician)|Rolf Jacobsen]]''' did not have a career background in the military, but rather as a jurist? -- should be clear from the text and source. Self-nom by expander [[User:Punkmorten|Punkmorten]] ([[User talk:Punkmorten|talk]]) 11:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] As the hook states Jacobsen did not have a career background in the military, that should be mentioned in the article as well.  For now, the article simply doesn't mention military service. Another option would be an alt hook. --[[User:Rosiestep|Rosiestep]] ([[User talk:Rosiestep|talk]]) 23:37, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the recorded history of the '''[[Briolette of India]]''' dates back to the 12th century, making it possibly the world's oldest [[diamond]] on record? -- new <s>short</s> <sup>Not so short anymore!</sup> article by {{user|Chamal N}} & {{user|Spittlespat}}, nom. by [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 12:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC). (Second author added at 22:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC).)
:*Whoah!! Hold it! I'm not done yet, it's still not at 1500 chars. I have to expand a bit more. [[User:Chamal_N|'''<span style="color:#000080">C</span>h<span style="color:#0000FF">a</span><span style="color:#4169E1">m</span><span style="color:#1E90FF">a</span><span style="color:#87CEEB">l</span>''']] [[User talk:Chamal_N|<sup>talk</sup>]] 12:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
:: Keep typing, pal.  I know you'll get to 1500+ very soon. :-) --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 19:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
::: It's about 3000 characters long now.  And [[User: Spittlespat]] should be credited as a co-author. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 22:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Yep. Thanks, PFHLai :) [[User:Chamal_N|'''<span style="color:#000080">C</span>h<span style="color:#0000FF">a</span><span style="color:#4169E1">m</span><span style="color:#1E90FF">a</span><span style="color:#87CEEB">l</span>''']] [[User talk:Chamal_N|<sup>talk</sup>]] 00:21, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::::: You're welcome. :-)  Thank you for writing up the requested article. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 14:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that Chief Justice of Queensland '''[[John Murtagh Macrossan]]''' also had two uncles who were chief justices as well? [[User:Assize|Assize]] ([[User talk:Assize|talk]]) 11:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]]The article looks good but there isn't enough information about the Australian Law Review source for me to feel comfortable verifying the hook or the article in general. Please provide some further information like who published it and when, and provide the names of any authors or editors that would relevent.[[User:Nrswanson|Nrswanson]] ([[User talk:Nrswanson|talk]]) 17:23, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::Have fixed the ref. Also added some online refs to verify hook. [[User:Assize|Assize]] ([[User talk:Assize|talk]]) 11:44, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*...that the '''[[Community Services Appeals Tribunal]]''' was the first tribunal in Australia to use [[Alternative dispute resolution]]? [[User:Assize|Assize]] ([[User talk:Assize|talk]]) 11:45, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

==Expiring noms==
===Articles created/expanded on November 15===
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*... that after serving in the [[Mexican–American War]], '''[[James W. McMillan]]''' moved to [[Indiana]], where he engaged in various businesses all over the state? new article by [[User:Kresock]], expanded by [[User:Mendaliv]], and nominated by [[User:AdjustShift|AdjustShift]] ([[User talk:AdjustShift|talk]]) 19:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
**'''ALT1''':... that before becoming a [[General officer|general]] in the [[American Civil War]], '''[[James W. McMillan]]''' was engaged in various businesses all over the [[U.S. state]] of [[Indiana]]? [[User:AdjustShift|AdjustShift]] ([[User talk:AdjustShift|talk]]) 19:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
***[[Image:Symbol question.svg|18px]] "Various businesses" is pretty vague. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 03:02, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
****"Various" can be erased. I also have another hook:
****'''ALT2''':... that after serving in the [[Mexican–American War]] and the [[American Civil War]], '''[[James W. McMillan]]''' served as a member of the Pension Bureau review board in [[Washington D.C.]] for about thirty years? [[User:AdjustShift|AdjustShift]] ([[User talk:AdjustShift|talk]]) 09:22, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Retired military officer gets civilian government job afterwards? When else has that happened? [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 14:24, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::'''ALT3''':... that before becoming a [[General officer|general]] in the [[American Civil War]], '''[[James W. McMillan]]''' was engaged in businesses all over the [[U.S. state]] of [[Indiana]]? [[User:AdjustShift|AdjustShift]] ([[User talk:AdjustShift|talk]]) 14:34, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::ALT2 has no inline citation in the article (plus there's Daniel Case's complaint...although I might still verify it if there were a citation, it depends on my mood); I still find ALT3 kind of vague. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 15:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the '''[[2009-10 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team]]''' has verbal commitments from four [[Blue chip (sports)|blue chip]] recruits even though they will be in just their second year off of scholarship probation and are limited in recruiting? --[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 08:25, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] Hook is 221 characters. —<font face="georgia">[[User:97198|<b>97198</b>]] <small>([[User talk:97198|talk]])</small></font> 08:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
::*... that the '''[[2009-10 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team]]''', which is in its second year off of scholarship probation and is limited in recruiting, has four [[Blue chip (sports)|blue chip]] verbal commitments?
:::*(revised)... that the '''[[2009-10 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team]]''', which is in its second year off of scholarship probation and is limited in recruiting, has four [[Blue chip (sports)|blue chip]] [[letter of intent]] signees?
::::[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] The hook is not explicity stated in the article. It just says several blue chip recruits and not the exact number.[[User:Nrswanson|Nrswanson]] ([[User talk:Nrswanson|talk]]) 04:14, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Now it says four.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 05:13, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] Hook, references, and date are all good. However, a character count shows only 1,375 in prose so you're a bit short in length.[[User:Nrswanson|Nrswanson]] ([[User talk:Nrswanson|talk]]) 06:20, 21 November 2008 (UTC) 
:::::::I hate to think I might be moving this hook closer to the main page, but anyway, I counted 1582 using the .css script or whatever it is. I still find the hook quite dull and the article too insubstantial, but I can't object to the article length per se. (although, of course, 1500 is just a lower limit, not a hard-and-fast rule...and the article is pretty bare and has almost no room for improvement as of now, given its speculative nature). &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 06:30, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::::The article is in no way speculative. There is no doubt that there will be a [[2009-10 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team]].  The facts are concrete and signing week just ended.  This is a very timely article from the perspective of signing week just having occured.  Furthermore, it is instructive to the casual sprots fan about the details of recruiting season.  The article is bare bones, but it has instructive and encyclopedic value, IMO.  How many basketball fans do you know?  How many of them can explain the recruiting season to you?  That is the value of this article.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 06:44, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Sorry I read the count without spaces. It is over the limit with them. I agree that the article is timely and of value to the encyclopedia. However, I also agree with Politzer that the article is a bit sparce and the hook boring. I will once again state that this hook can be promoted to the main page if an editor chooses to do so, but I personally would not select this hook.[[User:Nrswanson|Nrswanson]] ([[User talk:Nrswanson|talk]]) 06:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 
*... that [[Germany|German]] [[association football|football]] legend [[Fritz Walter]] wrote a book about the amateur team '''[[SV Alsenborn]]''', which he coached, titled ''Rise of a village team''? new article, self-nom, [[User:EA210269|EA210269]] ([[User talk:EA210269|talk]]) 15:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
**'''ALT1''': ... that the amateur [[association football|football]] team '''[[SV Alsenborn]]''' was the subject of the book ''Rise of a Village Team'' by [[Germany|German]] football player and coach [[Fritz Walter]]?  There's nothing in either article verifying the "legend"ness of him, and it's pretty iffy language anyway. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 03:09, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::::And, so what? A coach wrote a book about a team he coached? What's unusual about that? [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 14:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... <s>that in [[Norse mythology]], '''[[Surtr]]''' is foretold to lead forth the fire [[jötunn|jötnar]] to battle the [[Æsir]] at [[Ragnarök]]?</s> <small>Self-nomination. Total rewrite from scratch starting on November 14: 5x expansion.</small> [[User:Bloodofox|:bloodofox:]] ([[User talk:Bloodofox|talk]]) 13:00, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
:{{DYK?}} - works for me. x5 expansion as old version was mostly quotes rather than text. However I have asked for an inline cite the first time this fact is mentioned to assist the checking process. thx [[User:Victuallers|Victuallers]] ([[User talk:Victuallers|talk]]) 17:14, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, this might be more accurate since Surtr only seems to lead anything in the ''Prose Edda'' and not the ''Poetic Edda'':
:::*... that in [[Norse mythology]], the giant '''[[Surtr]]''' is foretold to ride to [[Ragnarök]] to fight the [[Æsir]] and set the entire world on fire? (<small> See text at references 3 and 4, for example.</small>)[[User:Bloodofox|:bloodofox:]] ([[User talk:Bloodofox|talk]]) 08:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
::::*[[Image:Symbol question.svg|18px]] I can't find a source for riding to Ragnarok specifically, only for "going" to some undefined location to set the whole world on fire and all that good stuff. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 03:16, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::See "'''Surt will ride in front''', and both before and behind him there will be burning fire" in the paragraph covered by reference 11. [[User:Bloodofox|:bloodofox:]] ([[User talk:Bloodofox|talk]]) 19:44, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::There needs to be an inline citation right with the fact; a whole paragraph doesn't automatically get "covered by" a single citation.  See this sentence from [[WP:DYK|the rules]]: "The hook fact must be cited in the article with an inline citation, since inline citations are used to support specific statements in an article. The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable." &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 05:50, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

===Articles created/expanded on November 14===
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*... that the title of the album '''''[[A.O. Mod. TV. Vers.]]''''' is an abbreviation of ''Adults Only Television Version''?
**'''Alt Hook''' ... that the title of the album '''''[[A.O. Mod. TV. Vers.]]''''' is an abbreviation of ''Adults Only Television Version'' which used to appear in the bottom corner of late night movies in [[Australia]]? (little long winded, not sure how many characters this is, if someone can come up with a better one that's fine)
:Nomination by [[User:RockManQ|RockManQ]], created by [[User:Dan arndt|Dan arndt]], expansion by [[User:Shaidar cuebiyar|Shaidat cuebiyar]]. [[User:RockManQ|<font color=#808080>'''RockManQ'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:RockManQ|(talk)]]</sup> 04:39, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
::*[[Image:Symbol question.svg|18px]] "Abbreviation" is defined as a shortened form, so what does "Mod." stand for? [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 06:28, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Erg, it doesn't say anything about Mod. Would ''reference'' be better? [[User:RockManQ|<font color=#808080>'''RockManQ'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:RockManQ|(talk)]]</sup> 20:37, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
::::"reference to" would be fine if it's true, but I couldn't find anything about "Adults Only" in any of the references. [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 04:04, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Let's just scrap this hook entirely and try to come up with an unrelated one.  Given that no one has been able to figure out what Mod. stands for, we shouldn't have a hook about the meaning of their name&mdash;a hook shouldn't leave the reader feeling as if he's missing something. Please suggest a new hook quickly, because this nom is already past expiring. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 02:44, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::[http://www.howlspace.com.au/en2/spyvspy/spyvspy.htm Mod stands for modified] (not sure if that's the most reliable of sources though). As for other hooks, I don't have anything else. If you have one feel free to suggest it. [[User:RockManQ|<font color=#808080>'''RockManQ'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:RockManQ|(talk)]]</sup> 02:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::That source gives a different abbreviation than your original (that source gives Adult-Oriented instead of Adults Only).  Given the apparent disagreement over this, I think it's too much of a pain to deal with for a hook; you can try skimming through the article and looking for something else interesting to suggest. &mdash;[[User:Politizer|Politizer]]&nbsp;<small><sup>'''[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]'''</sup></small>/<small><sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]'''</sub></small> 02:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the first registered clinical use of an '''[[Discovery and development of Neurokinin 1 Receptor Antagonists|NK<sub>1</sub> receptor blocker]]''' was the treatment of [[nausea]] and [[vomit]]ing induced by [[chemotherapy]]? -- new article by {{user|Ghosnk1}}, {{user|Ghosnk3}}, {{user|Ghosnk4}} and {{user|Ghosnk5}} (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:Ghosnk5&action=history edit history] of [[User:Ghosnk5]].); nom. by [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 13:44, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
: Note: The existing [[NK1 receptor antagonist]] article is a stub.  If someone want to merge them, it would be a >10-fold expansion. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 15:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] This article will have to be renamed per MOS as the one below was before it can be reviewed. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 15:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::: Discussion about a move is already ongoing at [[WT:PHARM]]. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 17:12, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
::::: Changed "antagonist" to "blocker", per <font face="Garamond" color="black">the skomorokh</font>'s comments above. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 18:48, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::: This article has been moved and renamed per MOS by Politizer. The colon is gone. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 14:44, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

*... that the [[antihypertensive]] drug [[Losartan]] becomes a more potent '''[[Discovery and development of Angiotensin Receptor Blockers|blocker of angiotensin receptors]]''' after it is [[Drug metabolism|metabolised]] in the body? -- new article by {{user|Kotroskin}}, {{user|Gudridur}}, {{user|Elinborgus}} and {{user|Evakr}} (Pls see edit of [[User:Kotroskin/arbvinnusida|their draft]].); nom. by [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 23:59, 19 November 2008 (UTC)  
::: Discussion about a move is already ongoing at [[WT:PHARM]]. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 17:12, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
:::: The colon should be gone soon.  If no one at WP:PHARM does, I'll move and rename the articles myself tomorrow. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 23:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::: This article has been moved and renamed per MOS by Politizer. The colon is gone. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 14:44, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

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