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{{WikiProject Coventry|class=NA}}
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==Project start - 26 February 2008==
There are currently well over 800 pages related to [[Coventry]] including many football-related pages. This project aims to improve and organise all of the Coventry pages with the cooperation of interested editors. [[User:Snowmanradio|Snowman]] ([[User talk:Snowmanradio|talk]]) 19:06, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

== Coventry discussion from [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals]]==
; Description : A project to coordinate pages on the city of [[Coventry]], England

; Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

# [[User:Snowmanradio]]
# [[User:G-Man|<font color="blue">G-Man</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:G-Man|<font color="#00BFFF">?</font>]]</sup> 
# [[User:Red Sunset|Red]] [[User talk:Red Sunset|<font style="color:#AA0000;">Su<font style="color:#DD0000;">ns<font style="color:#FF0000;">et</font></font></font>]]:  I'll poke my nose in, interfere, and generally annoy (LOL) if I can improve anything. 
# [[User:Keith D]]
# [[User:Erebus555|Erebus555]]
# [[User:Djsmiley2k]]  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 11:51, 30 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
# goodbiz  Happy to join in
# [[User:Breadsticks.rock]]
# [[User:Manfromcov]]

; Comments
There is enough interest to start the project.<br> 
Project started 26 February 2008. Basic project page at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Coventry]]. [[User:Snowmanradio|Snowman]] ([[User talk:Snowmanradio|talk]]) 20:28, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Dis-appointed that both Mount Nod and Banner Brook Park have been removed, Eastern Green is not Mount Nod, and to some, a housing estate is of interest. It is significantly intereting to some people. 
Also Banner brook Park is not part of Tile Hill, because it has significant interest because of its former factory site. It is a pity to shorten the facts by short casting.

==Templates==
A query on the use of West Midlands templates. If we are using these templates then how are we to detect which articles are Coventry based and which relate to other areas of the West Midlands, as the templates put articles in to a bucket with all of the rest of the West Midlands. May be this should be handled as a workgroup of that project with a flag added to the template or may be serarate templates. Any thoughts? [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D|talk]]) 10:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:I am glad you raised that and I have written a user box, a project banner, and started various supporting pages.  Will the talk pages have both a West Midlands project and a Coventry project banner? [[User:Snowmanradio|Snowman]] ([[User talk:Snowmanradio|talk]]) 21:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
::If you decide to go with separate template then I can run the script to set up the category structure for the bot. Need to get the bot set-up before tagging too many articles if we are using the assessments. Give me a shout if you want me to do this. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D|talk]]) 22:39, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:::What are the issues for and against this? [[User:Snowmanradio|Snowman]] ([[User talk:Snowmanradio|talk]]) 10:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

::::Unsure what the question is refering to - separate templates or performing assessments. But do not know if I can answer the former. On the assesments it is probably there to focus minds on the more important articles and to get them moving towards FA. Though on a wider scale they are used to select articles for the CD and other promotional things. The down side of the assessments is maintaining them as article changes are made. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D|talk]]) 11:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
:::ok, I did not know there was a bot, but I thought that there should be one. If you think it is a good idea, then run the bot. I have made some directories already, in line with WP:Cities and WP:London. Hopefully, there will be several users to rate the pages. Does the bot also make the assessment page or any other pages too? [[User:Snowmanradio|Snowman]] ([[User talk:Snowmanradio|talk]]) 11:31, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
::::I have run the initial run of the assessment bot and it has generated the appropriate files - the stats are at [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Coventry-related articles by quality statistics|statistics]] which has picked up 2 tagged articles. The other files are the [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Coventry-related articles by quality|article table]] and the [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Coventry-related articles by quality log|activity log]]. It should update automatically when the bot reaches the project, about every 5 days. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D|talk]]) 13:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
:::That helps, I have incorporated the statistics in the assessment page; (link in the navigation box), [[User:Snowmanradio|Snowman]] ([[User talk:Snowmanradio|talk]]) 14:04, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

== Assessments ==

I'm not entirely sure that I agree that all Coventry districts should be assessed as at least mid importance.  Some districts or suburbs are effectively just housing schemes or residential areas of no particular note, importance, or historical significance or connection.  To my mind these are of low importance, and though of course they need to be mentioned, some barely deserve a page to themselves.  --[[User:Red Sunset|Red]] [[User talk:Red Sunset|<font style="color:#AA0000;">Su<font style="color:#DD0000;">ns<font style="color:#FF0000;">et</font></font></font>]] 21:23, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:Some smaller housing estates would probably be minor importance, but the suburb that they are part of would surely be at least mid importance.  I updated Hillfields, Tile Hill, Ball Hill, Bell Green and Wyken and other from low importance to mid importance which seems obvious to me. Tile Hill, Bell Green and Ball Hill might even be high importance as they all have shopping centers and other features. I changed others too, and perhaps some might need changing back to low. Any suggestions for the ones that need a review? Coventry suburbs would be mostly low importance to the WikiProject West Mildlands, but they are of higher importance to us in the WikiProject Coventry - that is partly why we have this project. [[User:Snowmanradio|Snowman]] ([[User talk:Snowmanradio|talk]]) 11:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::I agree, Coventry suburbs would be mostly low importance to the WikiProject West Mildlands, and some should be in high importance WP:Cov categories; but why have a low importance category if nothing qualifies? For that reason I feel that some districts should be of low importance ('''relatively speaking''' with all due respect to the district) re my earlier comments, and those that have for instance been instrumental in the growth and development of Coventry such as areas connected with watch-making, textile and ribbon weaving, motor manufacture etc., or for any other reason have or still contribute significantly to the City should be of high importance and deserve a review. Ok, shopping centres and the like ''are'' important to the local community, but IMHO in the scale of things they are not ''that'' important and a "Mid" rating is suitable. Of course, all this is purely my opinion, and possibly not that of anyone else, so for consistency, should we have some sort of importance guideline with suggested parameters and conditions to refer to when assessing? --[[User:Red Sunset|Red]] [[User talk:Red Sunset|<font style="color:#AA0000;">Su<font style="color:#DD0000;">ns<font style="color:#FF0000;">et</font></font></font>]] 17:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:Hopefully there will be agreement of objective opinions, and formal guidelines are not be needed at this juncture. The general wiki guidelines are always followed, of course. [[User:Snowmanradio|Snowman]] ([[User talk:Snowmanradio|talk]]) 18:43, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I have added [[Warwick Manufacturing Group]] to the list of main articles and also assessed it (tried to be objective) but this may not be allowed so I have also listed it for objective assessment. Good project, hope my small contribution is useful.
[[User:Zoehoward|Zoehoward]] ([[User talk:Zoehoward|talk]]) 21:37, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Red links ==

I ran a wiki tool to find red links in the pages in the Coventry category. It is possible that relevant pages have already been made with a different name. Pages with more than on red link are listed: [[User:Snowmanradio|Snowman]] ([[User talk:Snowmanradio|talk]]) 11:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
{|
!Wanted!!Title
|-
! 2
| [[Augustus Legge]]
|-
! 2
| [[Brandon Stadium]]
|-
! 2
| [[Brownlow North]]
|-
! 2
| [[Caludon]]
|-
! 3
| [[Clark L. Brundin]]
|-
! 2
| [[Clarrie Bourton]]
|-
! 2
| [[Clinton McKenzie]]
|-
! 3
| [[Ella (bishop)]]
|-
! 2
| [[Foleshill railway station]]
|-
! 2
| [[Godfrey Blyth]]
|-
! 3
| [[Gosford Green]]
|-
! 3
| [[Higbert II]]
|-
! 3
| [[Humbert (bishop)]]
|-
! 2
| [[John Lonsdale]]
|-
! 2
| [[Kelly-Anne Smith]]
|-
! 2
| [[Ken Sharp]]
|-
! 3
| [[Kinebert]]
|-
! 2
| [[Richard Crassus]]
|-
! 2
| [[Robert de Monte Pessulano]]
|-
! 3
| [[Robert de Stretton]]
|-
! 2
| [[See of Leicester]]
|-
! 3
| [[Stoke, Coventry]]
|-
! 2
| [[William de Manchester]]
|}

== Scope and goals ==

Before we start getting into the assessments and improving articles etc., we need to develop a scope and and set of goals for the WikiProject and publish them on the main project page. The main page looks unfinished and needs to properly explain what the project is about and how it works. I'm just a bit worried that we are trying to run before we can walk. - [[User:Erebus555|Erebus555]] ([[User talk:Erebus555|talk]]) 19:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:In the first line "Project to improve and organise the articles about Coventry." [[User:Snowmanradio|Snowman]] ([[User talk:Snowmanradio|talk]]) 22:19, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::Something more specific, though. For example "Get Coventry to Featured Article status." Although, that is a good start, at least. - [[User:Erebus555|Erebus555]] ([[User talk:Erebus555|talk]]) 16:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
:::That is one goal but it is too specific for the introduction of the project page, I think. When people want to start to work on that goal they will list it in the improvement drive section. For me, the aims as they are stated are fine. I feel that the current pages that are most likely to reach GA (lets leave FA out of it at the moment) are Philip Larkin and Frank Whittle. The Philip Larkin page has had a lot of work recently. [[User:Snowmanradio|Snowman]] ([[User talk:Snowmanradio|talk]]) 17:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

==Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme==

As you [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-06-23/Dispatches|may have heard]], we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level.  The new description is available at [[Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Assessment|WP:ASSESS]].
*The '''new C-Class''' represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.  
*The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of [[Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Assessment/B-Class_criteria|a rubric]], and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.  
*A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as [[Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Assessment/A-Class_criteria|described here]].  

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at [[:Category:C-Class_articles]].  If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages.  [[Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Index|The bot]] is already finding and listing C-Class articles. 

Please [[Wikipedia_talk:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Assessment#WikiProject_responses|leave a message]] with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme.  This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year.  Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team|1.0 Editorial Team]], <font color="green">[[User:ShepBot|'''§hepBot''']]</font>'''&nbsp;<small>(<font color="red">[[User talk:ShepBot|Disable]]</font>)'''</small> 21:03, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for WikiProject Coventry ==

[[Wikipedia:Release Version|Wikipedia 0.7]] is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team]] has made an [http://toolserver.org/~cbm/release-data/2008-9-13/HTML/ automated selection of articles for Version 0.7].

We would like to ask you to review the [http://toolserver.org/~cbm/release-data/2008-9-13/HTML/WikiProject_Coventry.s0.html articles selected from this project]. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at [[Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7]]. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at [[Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations]]. 

A [http://toolserver.org/~cbm/cgi-bin/problems.cgi list of selected articles with cleanup tags], sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with [[Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Copyediting|copyediting requests]], although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible. 

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at [[User:SelectionBot/0.7/W-2|this project's subpage]] of [[User:SelectionBot/0.7]]. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, [[User:SelectionBot|SelectionBot]] 23:16, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


==Missing geographical coordinates==
Many Coventry articles are missing geographical coordinates. Finding the latitude and longitude of locations, and entering coordinates into articles is straightforwards, and explained at [[Wikipedia:Geocoding how-to for WikiProject members]]. Having coordinates on articles mean that they turn up in GoogleMaps, MultiMap and other such places which link to wikipedia based on geo-coordinates.

It is now possible to get lists of Coventry articles that have no geographical coordinates via [[Wikipedia:CatScan]], for example: 

*[http://toolserver.org/%7Edaniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&basecat=Coventry&basedeep=3&mode=cs&tagcat=United+Kingdom+articles+missing+geocoordinate+data&tagdeep=3&go=Scan&userlang=en Coventry articles missing geo-coordinates]. 

Alternatively, if CatScan is down or very slow, you can find them by looking through [[:Category:United Kingdom articles missing geocoordinate data]]. 

The articles in the lists above are currently marked with {{tl|coord missing}} templates, which need replacing with filled in {{tl|coord}} templates containing their latitude/longitude data (or else have lat&long entered into the infobox).

There are about 31 articles missing coords - I hope you'll consider adding coordinates so as to make Coventry articles more visible on the web. thanks --[[User:Tagishsimon|Tagishsimon]] [[User_talk:Tagishsimon|(talk)]] 19:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

== Coordinators' working group ==



Hi!  I'd like to draw your attention to the new [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Coordinators' working group|WikiProject coordinators' working group]], an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate.  This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group.  If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. &mdash; <small>Delievered by <font color="green">[[User:ShepBot|'''§hepBot''']]</font>'''&nbsp;<small>(<font color="red">[[User talk:ShepBot|Disable]]</font>)'''</small> on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 05:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

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