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== Wikipedia Day Awards ==

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of [[Wikipedia:Esperanza|Esperanza's]] proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at [[User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week]] where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention.  [[User:Badbilltucker|Badbilltucker]] 22:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

==Peer Review==

Hi all, I thought this would be a good place to ask if some here would like to add peer review comments on the article for the [[Song Dynasty]] of China, its talk page here at [[Talk:Song Dynasty]], and its peer review page found here at [[Wikipedia:Peer review/Song Dynasty/archive1]]. If anyone would like to critique the large amount of work I've done on the article, please do so. Also, add anything that you feel might be needed. Thanks!

--[[User:PericlesofAthens|PericlesofAthens]] 06:39, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

: Reviewed. The request was also added to the WikiProject China Peer review department. <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>([[User:AQu01rius|User]]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;[[User_talk:AQu01rius|Talk]])</small> 17:22, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

== Phasing out sidebar ==

I have proposed at [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_China#historical_timeline]] to phase out [[Template:History of China]] in favor of a footer timeline used [[m:EasyTimeline]] and adding [[Template:Infobox Former Country]] to every dynasty page. Does anyone want to comment or help?--[[User:Jiang|Jiang]] 04:43, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

==Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 FAR==
[[Tiananmen Square protests of 1989]] has been nominated for a [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_review|featured article review]]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to [[Wikipedia:What is a featured article?|featured quality]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_review|here]]. Reviewers' concerns are [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_review/{{#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|Tiananmen Square protests of 1989}}|here]].
[[User:LuciferMorgan|LuciferMorgan]] 14:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

==Shen Kuo for FAC==

Hi guys and gals, I have recently nominated the article on [[Shen Kuo]] for featured article status. Feel free to review the article and provide your objections/support/comments, etc.--[[User:PericlesofAthens|PericlesofAthens]] 13:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

==Tai Shi Gong==
Hi there. I have some concern over the translation of Sima Qian's title to Grand Historian. I didn't know where to turn since is no active discussion on the Sima Qian page. Since this is the group that maintains the page for Shiji, I thought this would be the most appropriate place to voice my concern.

My concern is two fold. First of all, the word Tai carries a meaning closer to "first", rather than "grand". Most of official titles, like Tang Taizong and Song Taizu, takes the meaning of "first". The same connotation applies to Sima Qian's case. So rather than the "Grand Historian" it should be the "First Historian".

Second of all, the title "Grand Historian", or even the "First Historian" is more of an epithet. It is like how we call "Richard the Lionheart", in this case, Sima Qian The Grand Historian. Tai Shi Gong is a title used to completely replace his name in order to avoid uttering it. If someone just says "The Lionheart King", it feels like an simple literary device to switch up the reference. It would be considered bad style to use "The Lionheart King" for an entire article. Similarly, because "The Grand Historian" is more of an epithet than a title, it would be impossible to write an article using only "The Grand Historian" without sounding pompous; when in fact, we use that title to sound respectful. 

The solution I present is simply keeping the original title in pinyin. Tai Shi Gong will be Tai Shi Gong. Shiji will be Shiji. A completely foreign word is more suitable for stand-alone use. 

That is my two bit on the subject. I really hope this can at least spark some new discussions. --[[User:64.180.11.169|64.180.11.169]] 08:33, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

== GA nom ==

The [[Tang Dynasty]] article is on hold after being nominated for [[WP:GA|Good Article]] status. [[User:VanTucky|<span style="color:#E49B0F">VanTucky</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:VanTucky|(talk)]]</sup> 00:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== [[History of East Asia]] ==

Hi. I just wanted to point out this developing article, the [[history of east asia]], for people who are passionate about Chinese history. China has had a large influence on its neighbors in the region over the years. See [[history of Europe]] for comparison. Common elements in the history of East Asia might include:

* the arrival of [[Buddhism]] from South Asia / India
* [[Taoism]] and [[Confucianism]] and its spread to multiple East Asian countries
* [[Neo-confucianism]] in the "middle ages"
* the [[Mandate of Heaven]], and its impact on relations between countries over the years.
* the advent of the [[stirrup]] and the arrival of the [[Mongols]] in the region.
* the invention of [[gunpowder]] in China and its spread throughout the region.
* the invention of the [[printing press]] in China and its spread throughout the region.
* the arrival of the European powers, and its effect on technology, diplomacy (e.g.: the mandate of heaven), philosophy, etc.

I hope we can all work together to improve this article. [[User:64.231.193.236|64.231.193.236]] 15:55, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

== collaboration of the history projects ==

Hi, I'm newly appointed coordinator of the [[Wikipedia: WikiProject History]]. I was coordinator of the [[Wikipedia: WikiProject Military History]] before.
My scope is to improve the cooperation among the different history projects andf use the synergy of a common infrastructure to improve article quality. One idea would be to merge small project into a larger wikiproject history with a common infrastructure and the small projects continuing independently as task forces of this project. What are your suggestions? Greetings [[User:Wandalstouring|Wandalstouring]] 15:10, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

== [[Four Great Inventions of ancient China]] ==
Hi there.  I've taken it upon myself to adopt the article [[Four Great Inventions of ancient China]], as it was being abused by euro-centric POV edits.   I've cleaned it up and added from other articles as I felt was neccesary, but I would like a look over from someone in this group.  Also, I'ld like to know if I can change the rating from Start-Class to B.  Thanks,  [[User:Lawrencekhoo|lk]] 10:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

==Requested Move on PLA operation/invasion, Tibet==

It has been proposed [[Talk:People's Liberation Army operations in Tibet (1950–1951)|here]] that '''[[People's Liberation Army operations in Tibet (1950–1951)]]''' be renamed '''1950-1951 invasion of Tibet'''.

Please join our discussion expressing your viewpoints. [[Special:Contributions/219.73.9.154|219.73.9.154]] ([[User talk:219.73.9.154|talk]]) 08:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

== [[Portal:History of Imperial China]] ==

Just a heads up - I have created [[Portal:History of Imperial China]]. If anyone feels like helping out, it would be most appreciated :) -- <span style="background:#ffff00;border:2px solid #00bfff;">[[User:Naerii|<font face="verdana" color="hotpink">'''Naerii'''</font>]]</span> 18:19, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

==China and PRC articles request to be renamed==
User:SmuckyTheCat is requesting that [[China]] be renamed, and replaced by the [[People's Republic of China]] article at "China". [[Special:Contributions/70.55.88.176|70.55.88.176]] ([[User talk:70.55.88.176|talk]]) 07:55, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

==Nanyue -> Nam Viet==
[[Nanyue]] has been requested to be renamed [[Nam Viet]] [[Special:Contributions/70.51.10.4|70.51.10.4]] ([[User talk:70.51.10.4|talk]]) 06:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Don't you think that since the historical records about Nanyue were written in Chinese, the article should be in the pronunciation of Chinese which is Nanyue instead of the Vietnamese pronunciation, Nam Viet?  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Mar vin kaiser|Mar vin kaiser]] ([[User talk:Mar vin kaiser|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mar vin kaiser|contribs]]) 14:43, 25 December 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== 1421 hypothesis -> mergeto -> 1421: The Year China Discovered the World ==
[[1421 hypothesis]] has been proposed to be merged into [[1421: The Year China Discovered the World]] (book article). [[Special:Contributions/70.51.9.9|70.51.9.9]] ([[User talk:70.51.9.9|talk]]) 06:13, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
*The discussion has been open since April on the appropriate article talk page --[[User:Matilda|Matilda]] <sup>[[User_talk:Matilda|talk]]</sup> 06:45, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

==Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme==

As you [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-06-23/Dispatches|may have heard]], we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level.  The new description is available at [[Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Assessment|WP:ASSESS]].
*The '''new C-Class''' represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.  
*The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of [[Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Assessment/B-Class_criteria|a rubric]], and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.  
*A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as [[Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Assessment/A-Class_criteria|described here]].  

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at [[:Category:C-Class_articles]].  If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages.  [[Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Index|The bot]] is already finding and listing C-Class articles. 

Please [[Wikipedia_talk:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Assessment#WikiProject_responses|leave a message]] with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme.  This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year.  Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team|1.0 Editorial Team]], <font color="green">[[User:ShepBot|'''§hepBot''']]</font>'''&nbsp;<small>(<font color="red">[[User talk:ShepBot|Disable]]</font>)'''</small> 22:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== Urgent article assistance - [[Tianjing's struggle Incident]] ==

Folks, would someone please take a look at this article. It looks like it has been translated from Chinese but it needs a lot of work to get it into shape. I already took the liberty of adding <nowiki>{{WPCHINA|history=yes}}</nowiki> to the the talk page. Thanks.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 14:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

== Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Chinese history ==

[[Wikipedia:Release Version|Wikipedia 0.7]] is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team]] has made an [http://toolserver.org/~cbm/release-data/2008-9-13/HTML/ automated selection of articles for Version 0.7].

We would like to ask you to review the [http://toolserver.org/~cbm/release-data/2008-9-13/HTML/Chinese_history.s0.html articles selected from this project]. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at [[Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7]]. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at [[Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations]]. 

A [http://toolserver.org/~cbm/cgi-bin/problems.cgi list of selected articles with cleanup tags], sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with [[Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Copyediting|copyediting requests]], although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible. 

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at [[User:SelectionBot/0.7/C-6|this project's subpage]] of [[User:SelectionBot/0.7]]. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, [[User:SelectionBot|SelectionBot]] 23:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

==Chinese imperialism → Territorial expansions in the history of China==
[[Chinese imperialism]] article has just come up at [[WP:RM]] for renaming. [[Special:Contributions/76.66.198.171|76.66.198.171]] ([[User talk:76.66.198.171|talk]]) 12:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

==History of the Han Dynasty==

[[History of the Han Dynasty]] a new article I've recently created, yet it's 85 KB in size. I'd like someone here to have a look at it and provide some input on how to improve it, or what needs fixing in the article. Thanks.--<strong>[[User:PericlesofAthens|<font color="blue">Pericles of Athens</font>]]</strong><sup>[[User talk:PericlesofAthens|<font color="#0000CD">Talk</font>]]</sup> 02:40, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

== Coordinators' working group ==



Hi!  I'd like to draw your attention to the new [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Coordinators' working group|WikiProject coordinators' working group]], an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate.  This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group.  If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. &mdash; <small>Delievered by <font color="green">[[User:ShepBot|'''§hepBot''']]</font>'''&nbsp;<small>(<font color="red">[[User talk:ShepBot|Disable]]</font>)'''</small> on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 05:07, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

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== Three articles needing experts ==

Hi, may I point the members of this group to the three articles [[‎Liu Chang]], [[‎Liu Cheng]] and [[‎Liu Fen]], which would surely benefit from the attention and work of some experts in this area. Best wishes [[User:Phoe|<span style="color:darkgreen;">~~ Phoe</span>]] [[User talk:Phoe|<span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:darkgreen;"> <sub> talk </sub> ~~ </span>]] 00:35, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

==Talk:Comparison between Roman and Han Empires==
You are invited to join the discussion at [[{{#if:Talk:Comparison between Roman and Han Empires|Talk:Comparison between Roman and Han Empires|{{{1}}}}}]]. [[User:Gun Powder Ma|Gun Powder Ma]] ([[User talk:Gun Powder Ma|talk]]) 12:37, 17 December 2009 (UTC)<small> (Using {{[[Template:Please see|Please see]]}})</small>

You are invited to join the discussion at [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Comparison_between_Roman_and_Han_Empires_%282nd_nomination%29 AFD]] for [[Comparison between Roman and Han Empires]]. [[User:Gun Powder Ma|Gun Powder Ma]] ([[User talk:Gun Powder Ma|talk]]) 23:36, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

== WP 1.0 bot announcement ==

This message is being sent to each WikiProject that participates in the [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment|WP 1.0 assessment system]]. On '''Saturday, January 23, 2010''', the [[User:WP 1.0 bot|WP 1.0 bot]] will be upgraded. Your project does not need to take any action, but the appearance of your project's [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Chinese history articles by quality statistics|summary table]] will change. The upgrade will make many new, optional features available to all WikiProjects. Additional information is available at the [[Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Index|WP 1.0 project homepage]]. &mdash;&nbsp;Carl <small>([[User:CBM|CBM]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:CBM|talk]])</small> 03:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

== Missing topics ==

I've updated my [[User:Skysmith/Missing topics about History of China|list of missing topics related to chinese history]] - [[User:Skysmith|Skysmith]] ([[User talk:Skysmith|talk]]) 12:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

==[[Battle to the Southwest of Xiakou]]==
FYI, [[Battle to the Southwest of Xiakou]] has been prodded for deletion by someone. 

[[Special:Contributions/70.29.208.247|70.29.208.247]] ([[User talk:70.29.208.247|talk]]) 12:39, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== Chinese history articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release ==

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We would like to ask you to review the [http://toolserver.org/~enwp10/bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&namespace=0&pagename=&quality=&importance=&score=&limit=100&offset=1&sorta=Importance&sortb=Quality&filterRelease=on&reviewFilter=0&releaseFilter=1&projecta=Chinese%20history Chinese history articles and revisionIDs we have chosen]. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (&diams;) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at '''[[Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8]]''' with the details.  You may wish to look at your WikiProject's [http://toolserver.org/~cbm/cgi-bin/problems.cgi articles with cleanup tags] and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at [[Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8]]. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

We have greatly streamlined the process since the Version 0.7 release, so we aim to have the collection ready for distribution by the end of October, 2010.  As a result, we are planning to distribute the collection much more widely, while continuing to work with groups such as [[One Laptop per Child]] and [http://schools-wikipedia.org/ Wikipedia for Schools] to extend the reach of Wikipedia worldwide.  Please help us, with [[Wikipedia_talk:Version_0.8|your WikiProject's feedback]]! 

For the Wikipedia 1.0 editorial team, [[User:SelectionBot|SelectionBot]] 22:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

== novel ==

Does the novel [[Under Heaven]] fall under the purview of this project? [[Special:Contributions/65.94.45.209|65.94.45.209]] ([[User talk:65.94.45.209|talk]]) 09:47, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

==[[Template talk:Citation#Implementation|Citation templates now support more identifiers]]==

[[Template talk:Citation#Implementation|Recent changes were made to citations templates]] (such as {{tl|citation}}, {{tl|cite journal}}, {{tl|cite web}}...). In addition to what was previously supported (bibcode, doi, jstor, isbn, ...), templates now support arXiv, ASIN, JFM, LCCN, MR, OL, OSTI, RFC, SSRN and Zbl. Before, you needed to place {{para|id|{{tlx|arxiv|0123.4567}}}} (or worse {{para|url|http://arxiv.org/abs/0123.4567}}), now you can simply use {{para|arxiv|0123.4567}}, likewise for {{para|id|{{tlx|JSTOR|0123456789}}}} and {{para|url|http://www.jstor.org/stable/0123456789}} &rarr; {{para|jstor|0123456789}}.

The full list of supported identifiers is given here (with dummy values):

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Obviously not all citations needs all parameters, but this streamlines the most popular ones and gives both better metadata and better appearances when printed. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|contribs]] / [[WP:PHYS|physics]] / [[WP:WBOOKS|books]]}</span> 02:36, 8 March 2011 (UTC)