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= March 20 =

== the article on the mennites ==

there is one gross error
the anabaptists were never a part of the protestant movement
they existed long before that movement and there persecution
existed long before it as well 
read " the trail of blood" by carroll and foxes book of myrtyrs
why people trying to catorgize us into protestants i can notunderstand
escept they can not deal with more than two in an equasion.  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.81.180.203|72.81.180.203]] ([[User talk:72.81.180.203|talk]]) 00:54, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:If you have an issue with content in an article, please discuss it at an article talk page, such as [[Talk: Anabaptists]].  Since this is your only edit, it is not obvious what article you think should be changed.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 01:44, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== Blood Moon ==

Merry meet, what the person said about The Blood Moon is wrong, the blood moon is Wicca's holiday, christions dont know what their talking about, and btw the bible is wrong  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.68.212.104|75.68.212.104]] ([[User talk:75.68.212.104|talk]]) 00:56, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:It doesn't appear that you are replying to a previous comment.  If you think that the content in an article is wrong, please discuss at a talk page <del>, such as [[Talk: Blood Moon]]</del>.  Since this was your only edit, there is no way to determine except by guessing what article you are referring to.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 01:46, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
:There is no article about a [[Wicca]] holiday known as a Blood Moon.  If you think that there should be one, you should cite [[WP:RS|reliable sources]].  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 01:49, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== Don't like the font  ==

Just a few days ago my font on Wikipedia is changed to this Italic looking stuff how do I change back to normal letters I hate these letters the way thay are...I can't read your articles like this...please send me directions on how to change back to regular letters instead of this stuff

Thanks, Barb  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bbynum1|Bbynum1]] ([[User talk:Bbynum1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bbynum1|contribs]]) 01:26, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: Running Vista? Per Microsoft: "After you install security update 3013455, you may notice some text quality degradation in certain scenarios. The problem only occurs on systems that are running Windows Vista SP2 or Windows Server 2003 SP2. Microsoft is researching this problem and will post more information in this article when the information becomes available."
: So, uninstall update 3013455. --<span style="color:Turquoise">''''' &nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|Gadget850]]'''''<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|&nbsp;''talk'']]</sup></span> 01:36, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

::{{ping|Bbynum1}} The quoted message is what https://support.microsoft.com/kb/3013455 said a month ago. There is now a fix linked there. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 02:50, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== Wikipedia wants to re-name my account??? ==

hi. I received a message from [[User:MediaWiki message delivery]] telling me that my account would be re-named because it supposedly clashed with someone else's account with the same name. I've done a search on wikipedia and google and could not find anyone else with this name. 

The message than told me that if I thought this was an error, I could use "Special:Merge Account" to reserve all accounts named "JayJ47" from being re-named.

Now that I've done this, does that mean my username will not be changed. If not, how can I stop this from happening? Thank you. [[User:JayJ47|JayJ47]] ([[User talk:JayJ47|talk]]) 02:55, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
:Hi JayJ47, all your accounts are now merged. Your username will not be changed. You have take no further action. Nothing will happen to your account. All the best, [[User:Taketa|Taketa]] ([[User talk:Taketa|talk]]) 05:15, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== The article on Sang Min Park (singer - 박 상민) is only in Korean. ==

Would you please put up the English Version of the same articel?  I could see in English thru "Google Translate"  but it was not in printable form.  Somehow, the English version after translation doesn't print.  Help!!!  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/216.240.43.174|216.240.43.174]] ([[User talk:216.240.43.174|talk]]) 04:11, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Hello, {{U|216.240.43.174}}. I'm afraid "the English version" of that article doesn't exist until somebody decides to write it (I take it that this is a different person from [[Park Sang-min]]). Each language Wikipedia is a separate project, and may or may not have articles on the same subject, which may or may not start as translations of one another (and typically they will thereafter be edited independently. You could request somebody write the article at [[WP:requested articles|requested articles]] (though there is a long backlog), or try to interest somebody at [[WT:WikiProject Korea]]. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:54, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== Khatu shyam ==

Hi, 
I just want to make a correction on the Khatu shyamji article (link: [[Khatushyam]]). Babarik was the son of Bhim and Ahilya (Naag Kanya) and not Ghatotkach. The most reliable text which gives a detailed knowledge about the life of Shyam Baba is Akhand Jyot. Every shyam prabhu follower must be knowing about it and must have recited the akhand jyot path. One of the links is http://shreeshyammandiralambazar.com/page.php?id=17 please go through this and you will get your answers. 

Regards  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.124.251.170|124.124.251.170]] ([[User talk:124.124.251.170|talk]]) 08:56, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Hello, {{U|124.124.251.170}}. If you look at the Talk page [[Talk:Khatushyam]], it is suggested that this is "not about the classical Babarika of the Mahabharta, but of a regional variation". If this is true, it may account for the discrepancy you refer to.
:I suggest you raise your question on that talk page (though I don't know if anybody is watching it). Alternatively, you may edit the article yourself. But what will improve the article is not replacing one unreferenced assertion with a different unreferenced assertion, but referencing every claim in the article to a reliable published source. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:07, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== Transferring image to Commons ==
Have transferred an image to Commons, but cannot understand the instructions about putting the appropriate tag on the image at WP to indicate that it has been transferred to Commons. Image is [[:File:Newnesglowworms.jpg]].
[[User:Sardaka|Sardaka]] ([[User talk:Sardaka|talk]]) 09:32, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

:Hello, {{ping|Sardaka}}, information about WP -> Commons moves can be found at [[Wikipedia:Moving files to the Commons]] (especially "Transferring manually" for non-bot uploads). While you already added most information, Commons has a special [[Commons:Template:Original upload log]] to provide as much log data as possible (see template documentation and "What links here" for some use cases). After double-checking, that all en-Wiki information is copied, you can tag the en-Wiki image with <nowiki>{{Now Commons}}</nowiki> and an admin will handle it. You can remove the tag to request an admin move, as you already did that manually. [[User:GermanJoe|GermanJoe]] ([[User talk:GermanJoe|talk]]) 10:05, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
::I filled in a few minor details and tagged the en-Wiki file as duplicate (see file histories of both file versions). That should be all for now - an admin will check the situation and remove the local file, if all is OK. [[User:GermanJoe|GermanJoe]] ([[User talk:GermanJoe|talk]]) 16:24, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
:IOW, if you ever need it again, add a {{tl|nowcommons}} here after [[toollabs:commonshelper]] helped you to get the original upload log right on commons. <abbr title="sorry, could not resist">SCNR</abbr>, but the "moving files" page is rather long for what fits in one line. &ndash;[[User:Be..anyone|Be..anyone]] ([[User talk:Be..anyone|talk]]) 18:35, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== reliable source help ==

[[Shea Arender]]

I am a new user and don't understand why if I have a lot of reliable sources listed, I still have the warning at the top of the page?
[[User:Adamoppedisano|Adamoppedisano]] ([[User talk:Adamoppedisano|talk]]) 13:40, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

:Because maintenance and BLP PROD templates are not removed automagically. If you think you have dealt with the issue, you can remove the PROD template, but please indicate why you have done so in your edit summary, or, preferably, by leaving a message on the article's talk page.--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 14:21, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

:I went ahead and removed the PROD. I also attempted to clean up some of the extremely promotional language and formatting errors, but both still need more work. Are you in some way connected with the subject? If so please declare your conflict of interest on your user page and take a look at [[WP:COI]]. I also note that you uploaded the image to Commons as your own work - please confirm that you own the copyright to the image either because you are the photographer or because it was assigned to you. If you don't own it, there is a permission problem that will have to be resolved. Thanks.--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 14:36, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== Title of article 'Of empires' ==

Hi,

I was wondering. Is there a way to change the title of an article? It would only be a minor change to capitalise the word 'Empires' so the title of the article reads 'Of Empires'.

Here is a link to the article in question - 'Of empires'.

[[Of empires]]

Many thanks,
Josh
[[User:Jgrfletcher|Jgrfletcher]] ([[User talk:Jgrfletcher|talk]]) 14:47, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

:It has been moved to [[Of Empires]].--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 15:01, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
:{{ec}} It looks like someone already did it for you. All you have to do to change the title is move the article, there are some restrictions on who can move articles and which can be moved. See [[WP:MOVE]]. [[User:PhantomTech|<span style="color: blue">'''Phantom'''</span><span style="color: green">'''Tech'''</span>]] ([[User talk:PhantomTech|talk]]) 15:02, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

==Eye problem==
sir, iam suffering from eye problem my two eyes.now iam seeking a batter tretmentfor a long dayai have been seejibg a batter tretment in Bangladesh for this disease could you infrom me a batter treatment point or place in India.very immediately as soon as possible  by you.....  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/150.242.106.2|150.242.106.2]] ([[User talk:150.242.106.2|talk]]) 16:25, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:This is the Help Desk for Wikipedia, where we advise people on how to use and edit Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not allowed to give medical advice. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 16:49, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== Re: Ruby Andrews: Entertainer, Professional Recording Artist, CEO-COO-CFO-President -Genuine Ruby Records ==

My name is Ruby Andrews and I am the one who corrected information under my name. I am obligated to keep my career updated some people just copy information. I am the original. I was reading information on my career as well as myself and like I said information on this page is misinformation. As a experience d entertainer, professional recording artist this information needs to be updated as fans do not need to read misinformation on me or my career, and yes I am still active in this business of music. I will from time to time seek to correct information under my name and likeness. Thank you for your time and interest in this matter... Ruby Andrews  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ruby Andrews|Ruby Andrews]] ([[User talk:Ruby Andrews|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ruby Andrews|contribs]]) 17:10, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Hello, {{U|Ruby Andrews}}. Wikipedia requires all information to come from reliable published sources, especially about living people. If you want something on your page changed, please follow the advice on [[WP:AUTOPROB]] and avoid editing the article yourself except in the circumstances mentioned there. Unreferenced material may be removed from the article. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:39, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== Problems with pages at: [[:wikiquote:Margaret Thatcher]] ==

Problems with pages at: [[:wikiquote:Margaret Thatcher]]

Hacked with a load of text

Thanks

IndustrialComponent.com is a regular contributor to the Wikipedia Foundation.  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:9:D00:A700:1062:5CF8:EB2E:DA9D|2601:9:D00:A700:1062:5CF8:EB2E:DA9D]] ([[User talk:2601:9:D00:A700:1062:5CF8:EB2E:DA9D|talk]]) 17:12, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:This is a help page for [[Wikipedia]]. Your link is at one of our sister sites [[Wikiquote]]. They have a help page at [[:wikiquote:Wikiquote:Village pump]] but this was obvious vandalism so I have made my first Wikiquote edit and [[Help:Reverting|reverted]] it. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 17:41, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

::And thank you for supporting the Foundation, but nobody at the Help Desk either knows or cares whether a particular person asking a question is a contributor or not. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:45, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

:::And nobody cares for your snarkiness to another contributor.  <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:25, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== Editing Display title ==

I am trying to edit the title of my wiki page: [[Victoria seaman]]

It currently reads "Victoria seaman" and I would like to capitalize the last name to read "Victoria Seaman"

I have tried entering this code
<code><nowiki>{{subst:RMassist|old page name|requested name|reason= reason for move}}</nowiki></code>  in the text section, but it tells me I have to do it on a requested moves page, which there is no link to.

Any advice? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Victoriadseaman|Victoriadseaman]] ([[User talk:Victoriadseaman|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Victoriadseaman|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

:The article has been deleted because it was too promotional in tone. Please see [[WP:SPAM]].--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 18:02, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
::A new stub has been started, to replace the deleted shameless campaign ad. --[[User:Orangemike|<span style="color:#F80">Orange Mike</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:Orangemike|<span style="color:#FA0">Talk</span>]] 18:04, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
:::{{tl|R from other capitalisation}} added on [[Victoria seaman]]. &ndash;[[User:Be..anyone|Be..anyone]] ([[User talk:Be..anyone|talk]]) 18:24, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

::::Ms Seaman (or someone using her name as a user name) has edited the article to add a huge promotional screed, which I have just reverted.--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 19:26, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

:::::She is copying http://victoriaseaman.com/meet-victoria/. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 19:54, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

::::::And again...--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 19:56, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

:::::::She has been blocked. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 15:10, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

== Image licence ==

I want to use this image of a [[Jim'll Paint It#James Murray|living person]] in an article. [http://www.itv.com/news/west/update/2013-03-09/designer-from-bristol-becomes-internet-sensation/] What [[Wikipedia:Image use policy|licence]] do I need?  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Pickuptha'Musket|Pickuptha'Musket]] ([[User talk:Pickuptha'Musket|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pickuptha'Musket|contribs]]) 17:50, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Unfortunately you cannot use it, under any license.  The page clearly says "© Copyright ITV plc 2015" at the bottom, and as James Murray is still alive, there is no free-use rationale to justify its use. - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 17:56, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

==  Aquila Court Building name change to Magnolia Hotel Omaha ==

I have tried to correct the Aquila Court Building page name to Magnolia Hotel Omaha.This is creating problems in Google search results (Knowledge Graph) because they are pulling the information from here. If this could be updated that would be wonderful.  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/151.193.220.28|151.193.220.28]] ([[User talk:151.193.220.28|talk]]) 18:37, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I have renamed the article to [[Magnolia Hotel (Omaha)]]. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 20:14, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input ==


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hi is anyone there  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:GabbyGirl31|GabbyGirl31]] ([[User talk:GabbyGirl31|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GabbyGirl31|contribs]]) 19:38, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:{{ping|GabbyGirl31}} I removed extraneous markup in [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Maggie_Batson&diff=652776410&oldid=652775531 this edit]. You had some empty ref tags and your signature at the beginning of the article. &#8213;[[User:Mandruss|<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Mandruss'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mandruss|<span style="color:#AAA;">&#9742;</span>]] 19:45, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|GabbyGirl31}}, you may want to try [[Wikipedia:Welcoming committee]]. -- [[User:Jreferee|Jreferee]] ([[User talk:Jreferee|talk]]) 01:15, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

== Single-purpose account ==

Hi there.  I noticed what seems to be an account created for self-promotion.  The user is [[User talk:Ash & Bloom]].  I'm not quite sure how to report it, or how to tag their talk page.  Thanks for your help.  [[User:Magnolia677|Magnolia677]] ([[User talk:Magnolia677|talk]]) 20:30, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

:Clear user name violation - informed and reported to [[WP:UAA]].--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 20:48, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== State Controller Wikipedia Entry  ==

Dear Help Desk:

I work for the person in the Wikipedia entry and I formerly edited Wikipedia entries for a think tank in Washington.

At the subject's request, I revised her very outdated Wikipedia entry that did not reflect her faculty positions at UC Berkeley or UCLA, her columns for the Christian Science Monitor, her long career in investment banking or her current CEO status of a technology company. The facts for my March 18th updates came from documented sources and from the professional CV (a background that has been carefully vetted for a top security clearance by the FBI)of the subject. However, the entire entry has now been undone and the old, outdated and factually incorrect one has been mysteriously restored. 

'''Can you please tell me how this happened? How can we re-do, update and be-build the page as it should appear to fully and factually represent the subject's full 30 year career. This needs to be amended immediately so the public record does not reflect gross inaccuracies.
'''  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/108.31.78.181|108.31.78.181]] ([[User talk:108.31.78.181|talk]]) 21:06, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:We aren't mind readers - you will have to tell us the individual's name before we can come up with a meaningful response. [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 21:10, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

:But whoever it is, you have a [[WP:conflict of interest|conflict of interest]] and are strongly discouraged from editing the article directly. You are welcome to make suggestions (with reliable published sources, preferably independent sources) on the article's talk page, so that a disinterested editor can decide what changes are appropriate. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:47, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

== Proposed for deletion ==

I have a page that has been recently proposed for speedy deletion. What issues does this page that have made it a candidate for deletion? Proposed page link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_Magazine  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Madegray|Madegray]] ([[User talk:Madegray|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Madegray|contribs]]) 21:19, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:It is a strong candidate for deletion because it has a total lack of in-line citations which establish its subject's [[WP:N|notability]]. I don't think this is your fault – as far as I can tell, there are no reliable independent sources which discuss the magazine. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 23:15, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== Editing ==

Hello Wikipedia,
I have edited these articles. [[Fraser Island]], [[Hervey Bay]], [[Maryborough, Queensland]] and [[James Cook]] in 10 days and I still cant edit every article. My old user [[@pabdelma]] I vandalized a article but I don't do that anymore. Why cant I edit every article. [[User:NewbornCircle|NewbornCircle]] ([[User talk:NewbornCircle|talk]]) 22:19, 20 March 2015 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:NewbornCircle|NewbornCircle]] ([[User talk:NewbornCircle|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NewbornCircle|contribs]]) 22:18, 20 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: Your account was created yesterday.  After it is at least four days old, you will become autoconfirmed and can edit more things.  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 22:22, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
::given [[User talk:Pabdelma]] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive878#122.148.163.131_.2F_Pabdelma_.2F_SweetPoet345_:_disruptive.2C_vandalism.2C_incompetence] you probably shouldnt still be editing. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 18:39, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

= March 21 =

== Main page versions ==

How can I retrieve prior versions of the main page? (I don't need to edit them. I'm interested in the "In the news" section for previous weeks.) The [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=history main page history tab] only lists about one version for every six months and when you link to a previous page (like 18 February 2015 or 4 July 2014), you get the same current main page. --[[User:RoyGoldsmith|RoyGoldsmith]] ([[User talk:RoyGoldsmith|talk]]) 00:57, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
:Looks like ITN comes from [[Template:In the news]], which has far more frequent updates. &#8213;[[User:Mandruss|<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Mandruss'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mandruss|<span style="color:#AAA;">&#9742;</span>]] 01:04, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
::See also [[Wikipedia:Main Page history]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 02:25, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
:::Thanks to you both. --[[User:RoyGoldsmith|RoyGoldsmith]] ([[User talk:RoyGoldsmith|talk]]) 18:51, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

== Request help with multiple category CfD ==

Please see [[Talk:War in Afghanistan (2001–present)#Category title move.]] This is a [[WP:C2D]] due to the results of [[Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2015 February#War in Afghanistan (2001–14)]]. I have never done a CfD before, let alone multiple categories.--[[User:RightCowLeftCoast|RightCowLeftCoast]] ([[User talk:RightCowLeftCoast|talk]]) 03:53, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

== Geographical Dna  test article  and  Mowa  Choctaw  article   talk  page      inaccuracies . ==
I  would  like  to  complain  about two  huge  problems the  Wikipedia Geographical Dna  test article   and the Mowa Choctaw article  talk  page.

both  are related  problems.  There are  several Scientists  who  say   that  Genetic ancestry  tests  are  not accurate  at all.

How  come   the views  of those Scientists  are not  reflected  in the Geographical  Dna   test article.


For example   I  have   an   email  that UNC - Chapel  Hill  Anthropology Department sent  me in 2010  and   yes  its still current unless    I hear  directly  from  Unc Chapel  Hill Anthropology Department   what  they emailed  me about   genetic ancestry testing is  still  true.

UNC Chapel  Hill's Anthropology   Department    responded to a question  I asked about  what Dr  Loretta Cormier   a Medical  Anthropologist   with the  University  of Alabama  at Birmingham told me  about  Genetic Ancestry   testing.

She   said

" There  is no such  thing  as  a Native  American   gene  , a European  Gene   or  an African  Gene, with Dna tests  for race

all  you get  is  an  allele  saying  you are  more  likely  this  or that and  with racially  mixed  people

you are mixing   together  the different  alleles  making   it even  harder   to  know  what you are".


She   said  " there  is nothing  to  show   you   your  race though we  wish  that there  were".


That  was  her  response   to the Genetic  ancestry  tests  done  on   former chief  of the Mowa Choctaws   in  Mobile  and Washington  Counties Alabama Wilford  Taylor   who  is  still  an enrolled   member  of the  Mowa Choctaw  Tribe.


I  also  asked  UNC Chapel  Hill about the Genetic  ancestry tests  done on 350   Mowa Choctaws  out   of 3000  tested in 1976  by Dr  Pollitzer where they   supposedly came  back   70  percent  White  and  30  percent  Black, with very  Little Indian.


Unc Chapel Hill Anthropology  Department  said   "  its true  there  is no such  thing as a  Native  American  or African  Allele   in the sense  there  are   no Alleles (Alternative Copies  of a  gene) that  are found   in all Native  Americans  and   only  in   Native  Americans

there  are some Alleles  that  are  more common  in Native  Americans  than  in  other  populations but  that's   not  a particularly   useful way   to   trace  anyone's ancestry.


they  then  said what  these  tests are useful  for studying  Populations.

And  they  said  that  Professor Pollitizer was trying  to determine  the level  of admixture  in the US  south.

they  then  told me that  for  many reasons these   tests  can  be considered  only Rough Estimates.


They  said  the  Real  issue  underlying  all  of this is that race   has  both  a biological and Sociological definition and that those two concepts  are  often  blended  and confused.


They  recommended  I read  a  book  on  Physical Anthropology by  Physical  Anthropologist  Jonathan Marks.


I  know from   an  internet  article   Jonathan Marks wrote   called the Science  and  Business  of Genetic Ancestry Testing that  Jonathan  Marks  does  not believe  Dna  tests  for race are accurate.

For the same  reasons  UNC Chapel  Hill's Anthropology  Department   does  not.


He  also  said  the Scientists who claim  Genetic Ancestry  testing   is accurate  are   people  who are   unintentionally  misleading  the  public to get  more   money  and  media  attention for   Genetic  Research.


Finally  the Mowa  Choctaw  Talk  page   should  just say  what UNC Chapel Hill's Anthropologists  say about why Genetic ancestry testing  is not accurate.


Dr  Loretta Cormier  of UAB  is the  Anthropologist  for the Mowa  Choctaws of Mobile and Washington  Counties Alabama.  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/65.5.212.168|65.5.212.168]] ([[User talk:65.5.212.168|talk]]) 05:25, 21 March 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I took the liberty of fixing the formatting in your post. It was previously almost unreadable. [[User:JIP|<font color="#CC0000">J</font><font color="#00CC00">I</font><font color="#0000CC">P</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:JIP|Talk]] 05:49, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
::If you believe an article contains inaccuracies, point it out on its talk page. On Wikipedia, if information is well supported by sources, it is included. If you have other sources that support a view that contradicts the one in the article, provide those sources on the article's talk page or add the information to the article with citations. Remember that everything on Wikipedia must meet [[WP:Verifiability]], emails that have not been published by the sender do not. As a final note, you said Jonathan Marks said "the Scientists who claim  Genetic Ancestry  testing   is accurate  are   people  who are   unintentionally  misleading  the  public to get  more   money  and  media  attention for   Genetic  Research," that statement is a logical contradiction, you cannot both be doing something with a motive (for money/media attention) and unintentionally. If it says that in the source it might cause an issue and so I would recommend finding multiple other sources in addition to that one. [[User:PhantomTech|<span style="color: blue">'''Phantom'''</span><span style="color: green">'''Tech'''</span>]] ([[User talk:PhantomTech|talk]]) 06:06, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

::It is still hard to read the above post even after the reformatting.  It is also hard to tell what articles the OP is concerned about.  The above post is the only post made from that IP address, so that there is no way of guessing what DNA test article is being discussed.  It does appear that the other article is [[MOWA Band of Choctaw Indians]].  I agree that that article is poorly written, containing poor grammar and syntax, and unencyclopedic language.  What article about DNA testing is problematic?  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 16:09, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

:::{{re|Robert McClenon}} If I understood it, the problem they're talking about is using DNA to check for race or the geographical origins of ancestors. [[User:PhantomTech|<span style="color: blue">'''Phantom'''</span><span style="color: green">'''Tech'''</span>]] ([[User talk:PhantomTech|talk]]) 16:36, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
::::Yes.  I know that is what the OP is talking about.  But the OP complained about two articles.  One of them is [[MOWA Band of Choctaw Indians]].  It isn't clear what article the other one is, only what its topic is.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 18:22, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::[[Genealogical DNA test]] is a possibility. [[User:Deor|Deor]] ([[User talk:Deor|talk]]) 10:43, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

== Band notability advice ==

Hi. I never realized how complex the inner workings of Wikipedia were until now, that i'm interested in asking advice. In advance, I apologize if this isn't the right place to be asking this.

My issue right now pertains to the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians|Musician WikiProject]], which seems to be somewhat inactive (or I have no idea where to start looking for an active person), and the notability page it linked (viewable [[Wikipedia:Notability (music)|here]]). I was interested to find out if a moderately small band was eligible for a wikipedia page- so I read over the notability article, but I still wished to get some clear tips from a more experienced user (because to be fair, it can get to be a bit blurred or confusing), and I wasn't sure where to start (so I'm hoping someone here can look into it and give me some answers).

The band I'm talking about is a small pop-rock band based in New York ([[Poughkeepsie, New York|Poughkeepsie]], if I remember correctly), mostly a cover band. However, as of March 2015 they have released numerous original songs & singles, two EPs (''Infinity'' and ''Gravity''), have been on at least 5+ tours (not sure if the tours are considered large, medium, tiny), and recently were signed to the record label [[Fueled by Ramen]]. As of April or so last year, there are three members (from the original five), Chrissy (Cristina) Costanza, Dan Glow and Will Ferri. The band was founded in mid-2011 (If I remember correctly, possibly earlier). Chrissy and/or the band have also worked with artists such as [[Alex Goot]] and [[Kurt Hugo Schneider]] I hope someone can look into it, and bring me a response and some WP advice.

Here are some links to the band themselves- [https://www.youtube.com/user/againstthecurrentNY Their youtube channel] - [http://www.atcofficial.com/ Their website] - [https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/against-the-current/id545086911 iTunes] and [https://twitter.com/atc_band twitter]

Thanks in advance. [[User:CentralFloridian|CentralFloridian]] ([[User talk:CentralFloridian|talk]]) 07:10, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

:The most important element in the notability page, [[WP:Notability (music)]], is that the group have been the subject of multiple published articles in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources)]].  If the group has received an award, or has topped the charts, or been certified gold, it will almost certainly also be listed in multiple published articles.  Has the band been the subject of published articles in reliable sources?  (The links that you provide are not independent and so are not considered secondary reliable sources.)  You might start by doing a Google search for the band by its name.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 15:52, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
:Do you have a connection with the band?  If so, that is considered a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]], in which case writing about the band is strongly discouraged, because contributors with conflicts of interest are very seldom able to write from a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]].  If you can find articles about the band in reliable sources, and if you do not have a conflict of interest, you may write a [[WP:Draft|draft]] article and submit it via the [[WP:AFC|Articles for Creation]] process.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 15:52, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
::I'm not a member of the band nor do I have any relation to them other than being a fan of sorts, so I think I'll do that (write a draft and submit it), thanks for the suggestion! :) [[User:CentralFloridian|CentralFloridian]] ([[User talk:CentralFloridian|talk]]) 06:59, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
:"Small" as in number of musicians is no problem, a duo is fine. You need some reliable references talking about this band, books, journals, or similar. Self-published pages or YT videos don't count for "notable", forums and blogs do not generally count, and if all you find are two-liners in regional newspapers for their concerts it's also bad. Otherwise have fun, or '''be bold''' and '''ignore all rules''', as they say here (ideally you'd know the rules before you ignore them, but I digress.&nbsp;:-) &ndash;[[User:Be..anyone|Be..anyone]] ([[User talk:Be..anyone|talk]]) 16:06, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

== Link and a reference ==

Hi, can anyone tell me what is the difference between a link and a reference. Someone told me that Soccerway.com etc are links and therefore, profile of a player like  [http://uk.soccerway.com/players/miguel-angel-garc/17892/ this] cannot be used as a reference. [[User:Royroydeb|RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি]] ([[User talk:Royroydeb|talk]]) 07:59, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

:We need the context to see what they meant. Where were you told this? [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 10:02, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

::{{ping|User:PrimeHunter}} Hi, you can check my talk page under the Igor Angulo heading. [[User:Royroydeb|RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি]] ([[User talk:Royroydeb|talk]]) 10:27, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

:::By "link" they apparently mean the "External links" section described at [[Wikipedia:External links]], but this restricted meaning of "link" is not normal in Wikipedia. A more common term for that is "external link" but that can still be ambiguous. By "reference" they mean an inline reference described at [[Wikipedia:Citing sources]]. Apart from that, I'm not sure why they don't want a page to be used as a reference. Practice varies and in some areas it may be preferred that a page at a well-known site with significant statistical information is in an external links section and not "repeated" as an inline source for simple uncontroversial information. I don't know the reliability of the discussed sources but another consideration is that "External links" allows pages which are considered unreliable for use as references. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 14:57, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

== https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djeak ==

Dear Help desk,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djeak

He is a Real Person, Famous Person. What miss I so that this page is always gotten CSD A7?

with best regards,

Akorda Khan  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Akordakhan|Akordakhan]] ([[User talk:Akordakhan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Akordakhan|contribs]]) 18:13, 21 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{ping|Akordakhan}} Merely existing is not enough. [[WP:42|Reliably published sources not related to the subject must have discussed the subject in a substantive manner]] and you must demonstrate that by [[WP:REFB|providing appropriate citations.]] -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 18:25, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

is this to not enough ?

http://www.ekizceliler.com/files/cache/d21ec4d0282c89ad88590f0ab6c380c6_f24.png

Regards,

Akordakhan  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Akordakhan|Akordakhan]] ([[User talk:Akordakhan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Akordakhan|contribs]]) 18:32, 21 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:[[User:Akordakhan]] - [[WP:FORUMSHOP|Forum shopping]], asking the same question or raising the same issue in multiple places in Wikipedia, is discouraged.  You got the same answer at the Teahouse as at the Help Desk.  What would you do if you got different answers?   [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 18:35, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon,

No not different answers want i, what i would is very fast and best answers, Today is my first day in Wikipedia so i must learn how living is in Wikipedia world and what the Rules is. There is much pages about Rules but not enough for me, thats the way i create my first page and asking in some help pages what i must to do etc...  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Akordakhan|Akordakhan]] ([[User talk:Akordakhan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Akordakhan|contribs]]) 18:41, 21 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Here is more Newspapers:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/bfhpw3.jpg

http://oi58.tinypic.com/2r2wrde.jpg

http://oi58.tinypic.com/fx8jtj.jpg

is now enough ?


Regards, 

Akordakhan  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Akordakhan|Akordakhan]] ([[User talk:Akordakhan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Akordakhan|contribs]]) 19:00, 21 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:No. Local promotional event coverage does not provide "significant coverage of the subject by non related reliable sources." -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 19:33, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

::[[WP:NODEADLINE|In Wikipedia, there is no deadline]].  You were trying to rush Wikipedia into accepting an article.  You certainly are not going to get the article accepted by throwing bare URLs at us at the Help Desk.  Whether you will get the article accepted by putting the bare URLs into the article and resubmitting it is another question that I won't answer.  I don't intend to check the proposed references further.  I suggest that you take a break and be patient enough to learn that impatience in Wikipedia is not usually productive, but I don't expect you to take my advice.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 19:41, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Akordakhan}} Please read [[Wikipedia:Your first article]]. As it recommends there you can create a [[Wikipedia:Draft|draft]] article out of article space, where there will not be pressure to make it ready for publication, and you can work with an [[WP:AfC|Articles-for-creation]] reviewer to get it ready. —[[User:TEB728|teb728]] [[User talk:TEB728|t]] [[Special:Contributions/TEB728|c]] 21:20, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

== Obscene? ==
Dear friends of the English Wik. There is a controversy in the Spanish Wik. on the deeper meaning of the following ''[[limerick (poetry)]]'' which appears in the article of this poetic form. I think it's totally obscene, but some people think it is not necessarily. Could you help us about it?

:::The limerick packs laughs anatomical
:::Into space that is quite economical. 
:::But the good ones I've seen
:::So seldom are clean
:::And the clean ones so seldom are comical.

Thank your very much. --[[User:Sürrell|Sürrell]] ([[User talk:Sürrell|talk]]) 18:58, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
::Nope not obscene AT ALL. it makes reference to the fact that limericks are often obscene, but it is not obscene itself. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 19:14, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
:::Well, then what does it mean, please? For example, what the hell is a "space quite economical", and "clean", clean of what, he, he?--[[User:Sürrell|Sürrell]] ([[User talk:Sürrell|talk]]) 19:20, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
::::"space quite economical" refers to the fact that a limerick is only 5 lines . "clean" refers to limericks free from obscenities. and he he referring to the fact that some limericks are free from obscenities but those are generally not funny. which is quite clearly NOT obscene itself. Otherwise, the word obscene would be obscene because it clearly refers to materials that are obscene. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 20:25, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::A translation of the poem would be ''"Limericks are a short form of humorous poetry, generally bawdy in nature. The limericks that are not racy, are not funny." ''-- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 20:30, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
The article saysː ″Gershon Legman, who compiled the largest and most scholarly anthology, held that the true limerick as a folk form is always obscene, and cites similar opinions by Arnold Bennett and George Bernard Shaw, describing the clean limerick as a "periodic fad and object of magazine contests, rarely rising above mediocrity." From a folkloric point of view, the form is essentially transgressive; violation of taboo is part of its function″.--[[User:Sürrell|Sürrell]] ([[User talk:Sürrell|talk]]) 19:23, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

:As the English Wikipedia is [[WP:NOTCENSORED]], it doesn't matter here, and I see the Spanish Wikipedia has a similar policy [https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lo_que_Wikipedia_no_es#Wikipedia_no_est.C3.A1_censurada here] - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 19:31, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, yes, "not censored", and?... This cannot be an obscenity in anyway? I think it is, and I want to translate in this way for the article.--[[User:Sürrell|Sürrell]] ([[User talk:Sürrell|talk]]) 19:46, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
:I think it has a second meaning, the second meaning being penile. Sincerely, [[User:Taketa|Taketa]] ([[User talk:Taketa|talk]]) 20:10, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

::That is a perception.  One looks for an obscenity because the limerick is often obscene.  But "a space that is quite economical" refers to the poetic form of the limerick itself, and "clean" refers to the lack of obscenities.  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 20:12, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

::::::Sorry, if the stanza "limerick" is of type obscene, I think it must be interpreted as meaning, yeah: ''obscene''. If this type were not obscene I’d interpretː "a space economical refers to the poetic form of the limerick itself”. Did I explain or not explain? The limerick is obscene or it is not. If the limerick is obscene it is not “the poetic form of the limerick itself”. It is another thing.--[[User:Sürrell|Sürrell]] ([[User talk:Sürrell|talk]]) 00:10, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::::''"The limerick is obscene or it is not"'': The above poem is DEFINITELY NOT obscene. 
::::::::I have no idea what you mean by ''" If the limerick is obscene it is not “the poetic form of the limerick itself”. It is another thing."''. 
::::::::Are you stating ''Definition of a Limerick: A poetic form that contains obscenities.'' - that obscenity is inherent defining a limerick and so any poem without obscenity is by definition not a limerick?
::::::::If so that is incorrect, as a poetic form limerick is defined by its rhyme structure : AAbbA  -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 03:03, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

{{U|Sürrell}}, are you suggesting that "space economical" refers to some obscene body part? I doubt it. It sounds like it's just talking about the poetic form. — [[User:Erutuon|Eru]]·[[User_talk:Erutuon|tuon]] 04:44, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

::::::::Yes, indeed, I suggest that "economical space" refers to some obscene body part, besides the type of stanza. In poetry it is called  ''syntactic ambiguity'', also called ''amphibology'' or ''double meaning''. Maybe is this a sin? Really? Amphibology doesn't work here? Impossible?--[[User:Sürrell|Sürrell]] ([[User talk:Sürrell|talk]]) 12:55, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::if you look hard enough, you will see smut anywhere. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 16:03, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::<small>heh, heh, heh, he said '''hard'''. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 16:03, 22 March 2015 (UTC)</small>
:::::::::ACK, as it happens&mdash;cf. en-3 on my page&mdash;I "saw" the anatomical meaning before the syntactical meaning. But how on earth did this poetical issue end up on the '''help desk''', it's off topic. &ndash;[[User:Be..anyone|Be..anyone]] ([[User talk:Be..anyone|talk]]) 16:55, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Heh, heh, [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]], I usually see smut in predominantly obscene poetry as limericks are. And maybe I recently have read too much some [[James Joyce]], ''an Irish writer in foreign parts''. And, mmmmm, [[User:Be..anyone|Be..anyone]], please if you say that, could you translate this issue to the right place? I'm a sad dirtyminded editor of foreign parts and I do not know where to go. ;-)--[[User:Sürrell|Sürrell]] ([[User talk:Sürrell|talk]]) 19:20, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

== Infobox mountain pass ==

I'm having trouble getting the push pin map for [[Template:Infobox mountain pass]] to work.  I copied the box to my sandbox to work on it [[User:Gaff/sandbox]]. Can somebody check it out and fix it or tell me what I am doing wrong? Then I will fix it on the article page.  thanks --[[User:Gaff|Gaff]] ([[User talk:Gaff|talk]]) 20:06, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
:{{fixed}} with [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:Gaff/sandbox&diff=652920518&oldid=652919283 this edit]. &#8213;[[User:Mandruss|<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Mandruss'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mandruss|<span style="color:#AAA;">&#9742;</span>]] 20:14, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

= March 22 =

== Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input ==


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my edit states no references . The exact reference was provided.  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Twiddletwaddle|Twiddletwaddle]] ([[User talk:Twiddletwaddle|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Twiddletwaddle|contribs]]) 00:29, 22 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:{{ping|widdletwaddle}} Edit the article, look for occurrences of <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, and remove them. There are two such occurrences, and they are at the locations where the big error messages are in the normal article display. &#8213;[[User:Mandruss|<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Mandruss'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mandruss|<span style="color:#AAA;">&#9742;</span>]] 00:33, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|Twiddletwaddle}} Pinging again, this time with the correct username. &#8213;[[User:Mandruss|<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Mandruss'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mandruss|<span style="color:#AAA;">&#9742;</span>]] 00:42, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

:For a new editor the <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code> can be a little bit confusing. Do as Mandruss suggests and first remove your edits, then read [[Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref]] & [[Help:Footnotes]]. Then have another attempt at it .--[[User:Aspro|Aspro]] ([[User talk:Aspro|talk]]) 01:01, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

== New Topic how To ==

Hi,

How can I create a new Wikipedia topic for a specific product? Is this the place to do that?

Thanks!
Terry  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:TCoupe58|TCoupe58]] ([[User talk:TCoupe58|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TCoupe58|contribs]]) 00:33, 22 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:This is not the place to create a new article.  I would suggest you read [[Wikipedia:Your first article]].  It will explain how to create an article.  --&nbsp;[[:en:User:GB fan|GB]]&nbsp;[[:en:User talk:GB fan|fan]] 00:38, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

:Is this product, something you have designed yourself ? --[[User:Aspro|Aspro]] ([[User talk:Aspro|talk]]) 01:20, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

== TLD pages ==

I was recently looking at some pages, such as [[.ninja]], [[.ceo]], and [[.xyz]], and I noticed in [[Template:GTLD|this template]] at the bottom of the pages that there were a lot of pages not yet created. As a new user with little-to-no knowledge about any of the domains missing pages (other than research I will likely do), would it be wrong of me to try and help out by creating those pages, and trying to bring them up to at least the standard of [[.aero]]? Or, would it be ok to do that? 

On a question I asked a few days ago about musicians, someone mentioned making a draft for a page and submitting it to a "pages for creation" project page. Would that be a better option than just immediately creating the pages?

Also another minor question (as a n00b wikipedia user), does anyone have any suggestions on where to start looking up things to add to my userpage (such as userboxes, templates, whatever)? Or, any suggestions as to what I should write on my userpage? 

Thanks for the help in advance. [[User:CentralFloridian|CentralFloridian]] ([[User talk:CentralFloridian|talk]]) 07:06, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
:I would suggest only creating them if they are indeed noteworthy by themselves (have received a lot of coverage in the news, etc.), if not, they should just be redirected to [[List of Internet top-level domains]].

:As for the second question, if you're unsure as to whether or not your content should go live in the article namespace and be immediately recognized as an article, you should definitely go the [[WP:AFC]] route. Here you can work on the article and get feedback from other users. Or if you think your content's ready, [[WP:BOLD|be bold]] and just start the page.

:And the third question: take a look at [[WP:UPDC]].

:[[User:Scarce2|Scarce2]] ([[User talk:Scarce2|talk]]) 09:56, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
::The guide for what is appropriate for your user page is [[WP:UP]] -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 10:43, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
:Maybe also interesting in an [[m:Talk:Interwiki_map#ICANN_Wiki|old discussion]] on Meta about this issue, and if you feel entitled to close it as '''not one''' please make it so. &ndash;[[User:Be..anyone|Be..anyone]] ([[User talk:Be..anyone|talk]]) 13:46, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

== SATISH SINGH GAHMARI ==

WHY DELETE THIS PAGE  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Gahmar|Gahmar]] ([[User talk:Gahmar|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Gahmar|contribs]]) 12:37, 22 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Because this is not Facebook.  We only include articles on notable people, not people who write their own, pretend, autobiography.<br />You have repeatedly tried to spam this numerous times as [[Satish Gahmari]], [[Satish singh gahmari]], [[Satish Singh Gahmari]] and probably others.<br />To quote the archives [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive870#Gahmar here] "it's nothing but a copy and paste of [[Amit Agarwal]] with Agarwal's name replaced with his own" - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 13:08, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

::If the 'article' is nothing but a copy-paste with the name changed, it is an unambiguous hoax, and therefore vandalism. Do anything remotely similar again, Gahmar, and you can expect to be indefinitely blocked from Wikipedia. [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 13:45, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
:::It is then also a [[WP:Copyright violation]]. -- [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 14:21, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
==article in sandbox==
How to post the article we have written on sandbox to Wikipedia, Pls
Let us know about it .  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/50.189.191.129|50.189.191.129]] ([[User talk:50.189.191.129|talk]]) 17:46, 22 March 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Posting this question is the only contribution from IP [[Special:Contributions/50.189.191.129|50.189.191.129]] and IPs cannot have sandboxes.  Perhaps you have an account, but forgot to log-in when you asked your question?<br />Please tell us where your article is, and we can try and help. - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 18:35, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

== Add Scranton Sports Person ==

Reference: http://biddybb.com/about-biddy/our-history/
Biddy Basketball was originated in 1951 by Jay Archer, Executive Director of the Youth Center in Scranton, Pennsylvania.

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<small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Panicalep|Panicalep]] ([[User talk:Panicalep|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Panicalep|contribs]]) 18:57, 22 March 2015‎ (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
:{{ping|Panicalep}} If you feel that Jay Archer meets [[WP:BIO|Wikipedia's notability requirements]], then I invite you to create an article about him through the [[WP:AFC|articles for creation]] process.  As for adding him to the list of notable people from Scranton, PA, it is usually best that the subject have an article of their own first ''and then'' be added to such lists.  <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:26, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

==Gina Abercrombie-Winstanley==
I am editing the wiki page for Ambassador Gina Abercrombie-Winstanley, per her request.  I have cited every article and removed anything that was subjective.

What do I need to do to get the warning removed from the page?

Thank you!  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Grmax1000|Grmax1000]] ([[User talk:Grmax1000|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Grmax1000|contribs]]) 23:04, 22 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Convenience link: {{la|Gina Abercrombie-Winstanley}}  -- <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 00:41, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

== Varieties of Squirrels ==

 
Hello... just wanted to know if you could or should add "white squirrels" of Exter, Ontario Canada... I have sent you a link:http://www.blogto.com/travel/2009/10/the_white_squirrels_of_exeter/ ... please check it out as they are the norm there! Thank you Alexander Smith  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.252.253.173|99.252.253.173]] ([[User talk:99.252.253.173|talk]]) 23:56, 22 March 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:The article you've linked says that they are a variety of [[eastern gray squirrel]]s, rather than a separate species, so we wouldn't have a separate article on them. Our article notes that white-colored individuals are relatively common where predation is low, which makes sense (they are presumably more visible than the gray norm, and accordingly more vulnerable to predators). I'm not sure we need to mention the Exeter Ontario whites specifically, especially since the source is a travel blog. A scientific study giving more information might be worth looking for though - I'll see what I can find. In future, if you have suggestions regarding a particular article, the best place to post is the article talk page - your post is more likely to be seen by people interested in the subject. [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 00:10, 23 March 2015 (UTC)


= March 23 =

== All Time Love - Will Young ==

Please change the entry for the song All Time Love - performed by Will Young.
It is currently incorrectly credited to a fake writer named Alfie Grant when in fact I wrote the song 100% myself and received a Brit Award nomination for it! Thank you for changing it as soon as possible.
Jamie  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jamie Alexander Hartman|Jamie Alexander Hartman]] ([[User talk:Jamie Alexander Hartman|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jamie Alexander Hartman|contribs]]) 02:27, 23 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:{{ping|Jamie Alexander Hartman}} I have reverted vandalism to [[All Time Love]] so it says Jamie Hartman again. Thanks for reporting it.  [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 03:44, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

== Unable to download files as pdf ==

I am unable to download the documents as pdf. Especially the information like list or tables of things..  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/180.215.52.83|180.215.52.83]] ([[User talk:180.215.52.83|talk]]) 04:51, 23 March 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Do you mean you are unable to download articles as PDFs? I just tried it and it appears tables are stripped before rendering. [[Help:Books/FAQ]] seems to imply tables are exported along with the rest of the article. This is either a change that hasn't been very well-documented or is a bug. Hopefully someone with more knowledge than me can come along and help. [[User:Scarce2|Scarce2]] ([[User talk:Scarce2|talk]]) 09:47, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

== Problems in my Firefox browser history when javascript is on while viewing Wikipedia articles ==

A strange issue began a few weeks ago [maybe since Jan 1, 2015] when viewing wikipedia articles:  When clicking on a "Contents" link, my Firefox generates SEVERAL EXTRA, identical pages.  Also, a more irritating problem is:  While reviewing a history list of previously viewed articles, LATER web pages in the 'History' disappear[!!] while reviewing a Wikipedia page (making the currently appearing Wiki the MOST RECENT, and LOSING my LATER viewed web pages).  The ONLY way I've found to prevent this, is to TURN OFF JAVASCRIPT while viewing Wikipedia.  What happened to Wikipedia?  This did NOT happen to me last year using the SAME PC and browser.

Thanks, Steve
[[Special:Contributions/75.175.254.143|75.175.254.143]] ([[User talk:75.175.254.143|talk]]) 04:57, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

== Pictures ==

Hello Wikipedia, how do you get permission to get a picture on your article because I need a picture on the article [[Stars of the Sea]]. A editor called [[DoRD]] couldn't find the school Stars of the Sea school in Hervey Bay Queensland. He says its not real but it is. 
[[User:NewbornCircle|NewbornCircle]] ([[User talk:NewbornCircle|talk]]) 08:55, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
:I only understood the first sentence of your question. To get permission from someone to use an image they own on Wikipedia, simply ask them to license the image with one that complies with Wikipedia's ([https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ CC BY 3.0] for instance). Check out [[commons:COM:FAQ]] for some more information (as well as [[WP:UPI]]). [[User:Scarce2|Scarce2]] ([[User talk:Scarce2|talk]]) 09:36, 23 March 2015 (UTC)


How do I ask him.[[User:NewbornCircle|NewbornCircle]] ([[User talk:NewbornCircle|talk]]) 09:39, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
:That depends. Where is the image hosted? Flickr? Personal website? If it's Flickr, you could just drop him a message and ask (I've had a lot of luck with this in the past). If it's a personal website, and you know his email address, take a look at [[commons:COM:OTRS]] (seriously look at this link). [[User:Scarce2|Scarce2]] ([[User talk:Scarce2|talk]]) 09:49, 23 March 2015
Im confused can you do it for me. go to google images and type stars of the sea logo hervey bay and put it on [[Stars of the Sea]] and do it. Thanks if you do it.