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== Boars ==

Male bears are called "boars".  Look here http://www.ask.com/pets-animals/male-bear-called-3da11fdefbb04141. Cheers. [[User:Dger|Dger]] ([[User talk:Dger|talk]]) 00:47, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

:{{tps}} So a male bear can be called a boar-bear? And if it's cold, wet, and hungry, it would be a poor boar-bear? [[User:Corinne|Corinne]] ([[User talk:Corinne|talk]]) 00:58, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
::Yes, yes, and only if it it's being offered a fried oyster sandwich on sourdough.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 01:34, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

:::<small>(I just saw this.)</small> Is that a "poor-boy"? So if the cold, wet boar-bear were eating one of those, would he be a poor boar-bear eating a poor-boy? [[User:Corinne|Corinne]] ([[User talk:Corinne|talk]]) 00:58, 6 December 2015 (UTC) Or is it a "po-boy"? [[User:Corinne|Corinne]] ([[User talk:Corinne|talk]]) 00:58, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
::::He'd be a wet bear eating a wet sandwich.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 01:07, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::{{smiley|grin}} [[User:Corinne|Corinne]] ([[User talk:Corinne|talk]]) 01:33, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

== Samotherium major ==

Hello, would you be able to make another picture of ''Samotherium major'' in light of [http://rsos.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/2/11/150521 this new article] reconstructing its neck posture? I'm not sure if your current image is accurate. [[User:LittleJerry|LittleJerry]] ([[User talk:LittleJerry|talk]]) 22:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|LittleJerry}}, so, have the neck held a little more horizonal like an okapi's, and not as vertically as a giraffe's?--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 22:57, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
::Well, the article states that Samotherium was an important transition to a giraffe-like neck. Are you sure the length is right? [[User:LittleJerry|LittleJerry]] ([[User talk:LittleJerry|talk]]) 23:47, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
:It's probably not the correct length, either.  I'll get to work making adjustments tonight.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 00:30, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
:::Hello again, do you think it would better to have Samotherium compared to the giraffe and okapi in the picture? [[User:LittleJerry|LittleJerry]] ([[User talk:LittleJerry|talk]]) 23:39, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
::::I'll get to work on that, too, then.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 00:02, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::Image coming along fine? [[User:LittleJerry|LittleJerry]] ([[User talk:LittleJerry|talk]]) 22:04, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::{ping|LittleJerry}} Now that I've remembered to scan it, what do you think?--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 23:03, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::Where is it? [[User:LittleJerry|LittleJerry]] ([[User talk:LittleJerry|talk]]) 00:54, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::::{{ping|LittleJerry}} I knew I was forgetting something [http://sta.sh/01zw94mthap5]: Also, S. major is in the middle, Okapi at the bottom, and Giraffe, well...--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 01:32, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Looks great! [[User:LittleJerry|LittleJerry]] ([[User talk:LittleJerry|talk]]) 02:07, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::I'll get to work inking it, then.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 02:23, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::Wait. Why doesn't Samotherium have legs? [[User:LittleJerry|LittleJerry]] ([[User talk:LittleJerry|talk]]) 15:52, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::It does have legs, it's just hard to see at this stage as it's behind the Okapi.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 15:59, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::Is the image finished? [[User:LittleJerry|LittleJerry]] ([[User talk:LittleJerry|talk]]) 15:17, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I'll scan it in later today.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 15:45, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Ready? [[User:LittleJerry|LittleJerry]] ([[User talk:LittleJerry|talk]]) 02:38, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::{{ping|LittleJerry}} [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Giraffidcomparison.jpg Yes, yes it is].  The official artsy reason why it's uncolored is because "the markings would distract from the comparison."  The unofficial reason why it's uncolored is because life-events have left me pressed for time, and a little shaky in the hand.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 05:09, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you! [[User:LittleJerry|LittleJerry]] ([[User talk:LittleJerry|talk]]) 13:44, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

== Grammatical number and taxa ==

Hi, my comment relates to {{diff|Araneoidea|next|693884711|this edit}}. At [[WP:PLANTS]], we've discussed the grammatical number to be used with taxon names, but I can't find a discussion related to animals. The following points can easily be sourced:
* The names of taxa above genus, such as families or superfamilies, are plural in Latin.
* Taxon names are treated as proper names when writing in English.
* In English, plural proper names require a determiner (e.g. "the"), singular proper names don't take one (hence the difference between "the Rockies" and "Etna").
The contentious issue is whether the Latin number {{em|has}} to be used in English. There are many sources who argue that it does; see as just one example [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=i9ITMiiohVQC&pg=PA3302#v=onepage&q&f=false ''Encyclopedia of Entomology'', p. 3302]. Personally, I disagree; we aren't writing Latin but English, and can choose to treat plural Latin words as collective nouns.

However, there are advantages to the plural form in some cases. Thus I much prefer the opening "The '''Araneoidea''' or '''araneoids''' are a taxon of araneomorph spiders ..." to "'''Araneoidea''' is a taxon of araneomorph spiders ...", since the former allows "araneoids" (used later in the article) to be introduced early on as a synonym. We shouldn't assume that all readers know that "-oids" is a standard transformation of "-oidea". Regardless of my view, the use of the plural can't be said to be wrong, and should not be changed unnecessarily. [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 10:25, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
:Alright.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 16:18, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

I was putting Thunderclap's species (Nyctosaurus) on the cast list (it's mentioned in the plot that's on the article as well). So yeah, sorry about that. Let's keep it the way it is. Anyways I love your art, I also have since become a more mature person that what I did when I was on here arguing with you about the Australovenator-Dromaeosaurus (I highly agree with you now, although the BBC site claims that the Polar Allosaur was indeed the former, but it could likely be wrong). Anyways have a good December. 
[[Special:Contributions/73.240.105.185|73.240.105.185]] ([[User talk:73.240.105.185|talk]]) 15:25, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
:Thank you for the kind words and understanding: it's important that we try to avoid fan-identification, as that is [[WP:Original Research]].--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 16:00, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

== Miniopterus aelleni ==

Hello, Apokryltaros -- I saw a number of red links in the section [[Miniopterus aelleni#Taxonomy]]. I thought you might know of articles or sections of articles to which these terms could be linked. [[User:Corinne|Corinne]] ([[User talk:Corinne|talk]]) 03:27, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
:I opted to unlink "divergence" and replace it with "sequence divergence," the others are of topics that have yet to be made into articles yet (''Faune'' being a Madagascar-themed biology science journal, and the other two being scientists).--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 03:39, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
::O.K. Thanks! [[User:Corinne|Corinne]] ([[User talk:Corinne|talk]]) 17:11, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

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:I wonder if there are red and green Christmas tree worms.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 15:31, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

== About the piscivore page ==

Hello Mr. Apokryltaros; happy new year and Christmas ! 

I see the spinosauroids on the piscivore page; but The spinosauroids weren't obligate piscivores; as the iguanadon remains in a Baryonyx and a teeth belonged to a spinosauroid were found in the fossil records; so the spinosauroid diet is very similar to the alligator and seal you mentioned\write; may I delete the Baryonyx an Spinosaurus from the piscivores category but write them on the extinct piscivores as; spinosauroids were known to consume fish but from the fossil records its estimated that their diet consist any prey aviable or similar to alligators ?  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dredann|Dredann]] ([[User talk:Dredann|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dredann|contribs]]) 15:25, 24 December 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Simply because ''Baryonyx'' and ''Spinosaurus'' were not obligate piscivores does not mean we should remove them from the list of prehistoric and extinct piscivores, especially since there is undeniable evidence of them eating fish in the first place. [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,38&q=baryonyx+lepidotes]--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 20:27, 24 December 2015 (UTC)


I didn't mean that; I meant I would write and note they had fish on their diet but that does not consist their almost entire diet like gharials. 
I meant some example like this :
Some of the extinct animals, such as the spinosauroids, are not completely piscivorous, often preying on aquatic invertebrates or land animals in addition to fish.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3665537/
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0065295  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dredann|Dredann]] ([[User talk:Dredann|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dredann|contribs]]) 20:47, 24 December 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::The rule about posting only obligate piscivores applies primarily to extant piscivores, so that that list does not become a long and cluttered mess mentioning every single living animal that won't pass up a fish dinner.  Again, simply because the spinosaurids were not obligate piscivores does not mean they don't deserve to be on the list of prehistoric piscivores, especially since there is notable evidence of their piscivorous habits in the first place.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 21:12, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
::Perhaps you should bring this up at the [[Talk:Piscivore|talk page]].--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 21:22, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Okay than; I continue at that page.  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dredann|Dredann]] ([[User talk:Dredann|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dredann|contribs]]) 11:14, 25 December 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== About that edit ==

Okay so I said that the sauropod in the movie "One Million Years B.C." was a Brontosaurus, so I know it got reverted, but the movie's trailer and a book about Ray Harryhausen confirms that it's a Brontosaurus, not an Apatosaurus (although Brontosaurus was a synonym of Apatosaurus at the time). Also the article for the original film the movie was based off of (I mean the 1940 film with Lon Chaney Jr.) claims that the rams in the movie were muskoxen. Is there a source for that (the movie never states that they are muskox and they appear to be sheep, not bovines)? --[[Special:Contributions/73.240.105.185|73.240.105.185]] ([[User talk:73.240.105.185|talk]]) 16:26, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:Can you provide a source that says this?  If "yes," then please source it.  If "no," then please stop making unsourced edits or risk the consequences.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 16:41, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

== Alright ==

I found a source, so would I just have to put it in the summary or show it to you first? Also would someone put it in the references (like I don't think a regular user can, but an admin I believe can)? Thanks for the help. But is there a source that says that the ram-like animals in "One Million B.C." (1940) says that they are muskoxen (that bugs me still)? --[[Special:Contributions/73.240.105.185|73.240.105.185]] ([[User talk:73.240.105.185|talk]]) 17:06, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:Why not show it on [[Talk:One Million Years B.C.]], first, so everyone can check and make sure, first?--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 17:13, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! --[[Special:Contributions/73.240.105.185|73.240.105.185]] ([[User talk:73.240.105.185|talk]]) 17:18, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

== Carcinology ==

Best wishes for a Happy, Healthy 2016! I've just learned a few new words that I had never heard before, including [[malacology]], [[carcinology]], and [[cirripedology]]. [[User:Corinne|Corinne]] ([[User talk:Corinne|talk]]) 03:45, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
:Mazel tov, and [[conchology]] to you and yours.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 03:56, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

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== Mesozoic ==

I was just looking at the article on the [[Mesozoic]] era, and I was surprised to see an image with this caption: "Inaccurately portrayed Stegosaurus". What is the point or the educational benefit of including an image that inaccurately portrays an ancient reptile? Are there any images of Stegosaurus that more accurately illustrate the animal? [[User:Corinne|Corinne]] ([[User talk:Corinne|talk]]) 01:17, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
:I agree we should replace it with more accurate pictures, and leave the archaic reconstructions to the animal's "In Popular Culture" section.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 01:19, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
::Oh, O.K. Good. [[User:Corinne|Corinne]] ([[User talk:Corinne|talk]]) 01:28, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

== Mammutidae ==

Apokryltaros, what's the difference between a mammoth and a mastondon? Is [[Mammutidae]] the main article about mastondons? If so, isn't it a little skimpy? [[User:Corinne|Corinne]] ([[User talk:Corinne|talk]]) 18:34, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
:Mammoths are any true elephant species of the genus ''[[Mammuthus]]'', whereas mastodons are any proboscidean of the family [[Mammutidae]], especially those of the genus ''[[Mammut]]''.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 20:23, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

== Piscivore Page ==

Hello Mr.Apokryltaros; I don understand why you rechange the piscivore page but I fixed my changes with sources this time. Please don't rechange the page. There are direct evidence that proves Baryonyx wasn't an obligate piscivore and spinosaurus obligate aquaticness is really a debated subject especially after the sigilmassasaurus  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dredann|Dredann]] ([[User talk:Dredann|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dredann|contribs]]) 17:12, 17 January 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Except that the way you word the mentioning that ''Baryonyx'' and ''Spinosaurus'' were not obligate piscivores introduces [[WP:Weasel words]] that make it confusing to the reader.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 18:38, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

::The sources I linked were trustable; not false.  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dredann|Dredann]] ([[User talk:Dredann|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dredann|contribs]]) 22:41, 17 January 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::The sources you used were blogs and children's books. It would help if you used science journals as sources.  That, and I never said your sources were false.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros#top|talk]]) 22:43, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Okay. Its true.
But may I also add legitimate scientific sources?

http://blog.everythingdinosaur.co.uk/blog/_archives/2008/05/31/the-thumb-claw-of-baryonyx.html
my.abdodigital.com › abdodig › download
https://books.google.com.tr/books?id=7t9M5TsmjOUC&pg=PA214&lpg=PA214&dq=baryonyx+iguanodon+remains&source=bl&ots=0GGnTh2WDa&sig=STauGD_uL_280MYhjvxB7Gpcwpc&hl=tr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-8_TJ-7HKAhUFlSwKHXrbCcw4ChDoAQgjMAY#v=onepage&q=baryonyx%20iguanodon%20remains&f=false

-Dredann