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== Tools within Rules ==

* Hi Toni, you may give me some tools; whatever you think, can be suitable; otherwise, thanks too.[[User:SwordOfRobinHood|SwordOfRobinHood]] ([[User talk:SwordOfRobinHood|talk]]) 16:59, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
::{{u|SwordOfRobinHood}}, sorry for the late reply. Just apply for whatever permissions you think you qualify for and will use at [[WP:PERM]], and explain why you feel they would be useful for you. I or another admin will review it there. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 00:45, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

::: Thanks for, I was also out of Wiki, very busy. I will do as you suggested. [[User:SwordOfRobinHood|SwordOfRobinHood]] ([[User talk:SwordOfRobinHood|talk]]) 13:28, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

== Moving drafts? ==

Hi
I wonder if you might consider reviewing two drafts that I've created and optimised:
*[[Draft:Laponia (documentary)]]
*[[Draft:Shocking Exposures: Images That Changed Science]]

The references are checked and the stills are currently processed through OTRS. They should therefore both be ready for publication now. Could you please consider moving them from Drafts?
Much obliged:) [[User:In my solitude|In my solitude]] ([[User talk:In my solitude|talk]]) 20:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC) [[User:In my solitude|In my solitude]] ([[User talk:In my solitude|talk]]) 20:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:In my solitude|In my solitude]], I don't really do much work with AfC these days. My friends {{replyto|Drewmutt|Chrissymad|Winged Blades of Godric}} all do a fair amount of work there, however. We typically don't rush reviews, but I'm pinging them to see if they have any thoughts. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 20:18, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
::I have commented at the latter.[[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">~ ''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup>  07:48, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

== Message delivery error ==

Nice work on the small tag! You had me scratching my head there for several minutes wondering why my font seemed so small, then I refreshed the page and it was back to normal suddenly. Only then did I notice the bot in the edit history. Thanks for the laugh! [[User:Home Lander|Home Lander]] ([[User talk:Home Lander|talk]]) 21:01, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
:Heh, yes. Sorry for thank. Thanks to {{u|Nihlus}} for fixing it. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 21:02, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

== question ==

Hi, I just wanted to clarify; is the [[Template:Sockpuppet]] not to be used anymore because of this [[WP:DENY|essay]]? I've seen this template added to numerous IP user pages, are they all to be removed now? Thanks - <span style="text-shadow:#E05FFF 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">''[[User: Thewolfchild|<sup>the</sup>'''<big><em style="font-family:Matisse itc;color:red">WOLF</em></big>'''<small>child</small>]]''</span> 00:19, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
:Oh give over, no one is suggestion any such thing. If a blocking admin, checkuser, clerk etc, specifically chooses not to include a sockpuppet tag or block template when blocking a sock then there is probably a good reason; you don't need to make [[Reductio ad absurdum|silly arguments]] questioning whether ''all'' tags should be removed just because you were reverted when you added the unneeded info.--[[User:Ponyo|<span style="color: Navy;">Jezebel's '''Ponyo'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ponyo|<span style="color: Navy;">''bons mots''</span>]]</sup> 00:32, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
::{{u|Ponyo}} How about you calm down? There is no need for you too get so upset and start attacking someone, just because they asked a simple question, and on someone else's talk page no less. I think the question is reasonable and was asked in a civil manner. I think it's also reasonable to assume that Tony can answer for himself, and if he has an issue with question, he can let me know (and judging by his response, which is much more calmer and diplomatic than yours, he doesn't). Hope your day gets better - <span style="text-shadow:#E05FFF 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">''[[User: Thewolfchild|<sup>the</sup>'''<big><em style="font-family:Matisse itc;color:red">WOLF</em></big>'''<small>child</small>]]''</span> 01:40, 9 February 2018 (UTC) 
:{{u|Thewolfchild}}, it's a known Kumioko IP, and most admins are familiar with the IPs he uses (and in this case, the block log makes it clear). I didn't tag or include a block notice because there is no need to do so. If it is Kumioko, he's well aware of how blocking works, and any acknowledgement only gives him attention. If someone else uses the IP, they see the block reason in the screen. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 00:43, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
::Tony, at the time I edited the page, there was no block notice. I added one, so that if someone else, other than Kumioko, tries to access WP with that account, they will know that it's blocked and for how long. These pages can become long, out of date and 'messy' after awhile so I try to clean them up from time to time, when I come across them, (and using pre-established templates for that purpose). So when you removed that template, and only cited an essay as a reason, I wanted some clarification. Now I understand that it's not a policy, but rather your personal preference. That's fine it's just an IP user talk page and not something I'm looking to debate over. No sock notice. We'll leave it at that.

::But, while typing out this reply, I see you've removed my notice again, so well I'm here, I'll ask for clarification on that as well (if you don't mind). I simply noted that the page is blocked for one year, with the start date. But you've now removed even that. Your [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:138.163.0.41&diff=824709825&oldid=824706197 edit summary] states: "{{tq| I didn't notify for a reason}}", but here's where I'm confused... I didn't add a reason. (and while we're at it, you actually did add a reason when you blocked: "{{tq|Vandalism, know Kumioko IP, so making it a year}}".) But if you don't want the block reasons noted on the talk page, that's fine (again, nothing worth debating), I'm just curious why other potential users can't know the length of the block? Lastly, I just want to add, these are simply questions. I'm not upset about any of this, I hope you aren't either. I just want to be clear on what to expect going forward. Like I said, I clean these pages up frok time to time, but I don't want to waste my time if it's going to be undone, and I certainly don't want to anger anyone ( anyone else, that is). I thank you in advance for your response. Cheers - <span style="text-shadow:#E05FFF 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">''[[User: Thewolfchild|<sup>the</sup>'''<big><em style="font-family:Matisse itc;color:red">WOLF</em></big>'''<small>child</small>]]''</span> 01:40, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
:::No, I'm not mad. I didn't give a block notice because it's a user who is banned globally by the WMF. He doesn't need a block notice, and other users don't need to know about on the talk page: the account is blocked for a year, it won't have any interactions for others for that time, and anyone who needs to know can see the block log/block notice in the contributions. A note on the talk only brings more attention to him, which is something we try to avoid in cases like this. Block notices in cases like this are basically theatre, and we want the audience to be as small as possible. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 01:48, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
::::Fair enough. I will keep that in mind when/if I clean up any other IP user talk pages in the future, especially ones used by Kumioko or others like him. Thanks for the reply. - <span style="text-shadow:#E05FFF 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">''[[User: Thewolfchild|<sup>the</sup>'''<big><em style="font-family:Matisse itc;color:red">WOLF</em></big>'''<small>child</small>]]''</span> 02:56, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

== RevDel request ==

Please can you revdel {{diff2|824876554|this edit}} on [[Jose Aristimuño]] - the edit summary is defamatory. [[User:Bellezzasolo|<span style="color: #bb9900">&#x2230;</span><span style="color: #00326a">'''Bellezzasolo'''</span><span style="color: #bb9900">&#x2721;</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Bellezzasolo|<small>Discuss</small>]] 02:23, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
:Hi, {{u|Bellezzasolo}}, I think you mean another edit summary on that page, and I don't think it falls within the revision deletion criteria. Also, in the future, it is generally best to contact an administrator privately either via email or by going to {{freenode|wikipedia-en-revdel}} on the Freenode IRC network and following the instructions there. If content if oversightable (which RD2 content often is), you can also email the oversight team by following the instructions at [[WP:OVERSIGHT]]. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 06:29, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

== Revdel some edits? ==

Hi, sorry to ask you again but I've noticed another Asian editor with poor English copy-pasting the exact words of a source without indicating as much. (Actually, it was [[User:Nishidani]] who noticed it [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Korean_influence_on_Japanese_culture&diff=825009971&oldid=824997331 here]; I missed the very close paraphrasing because it was taken out of context and made to say something completely different.) It's everything between [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Korean_influence_on_Japanese_culture&diff=818992576&oldid=818245489 this edit] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Korean_influence_on_Japanese_culture&diff=825009971&oldid=824997331 this one] that needs to be revdelled.

While I suspect this problem is probably endemic to {{user|Koryosaram}}'s edits, I would ask you not to do anything beyond hide the edits and possibly ''warn'' them about COPYVIO. There's an ongoing SPI, and if they try to more carefully paraphrase and reinsert the material again without using the talk page even after I warned them, this will probably need to go to ANEW, but I was accused of "canvassing" in relation to that page before, and you're obviously sympathetic, so I'm '''only''' asking you to do deal with the copyvio issue. (And that only because you're the admin I know who does that kind of thing.)

[[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 23:40, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
:{{u|Hijiri88}}, done the revdel for the first case. <s>Can you give me a bit more detail about the second user? If you just want me to leave a note about Wikipedia and copyvio, I can do that, but are there any specific contributions you are worried about? </s>[[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 23:49, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
:Nevermind, I'm an idiot. I just recognized we were talking about the same user. I need more coffee. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 23:55, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
::For future reference, I just noticed a problem with writing "I am an idiot" in your edit summaries. See, I didn't see the need to reply directly to thank you because of the "thank" tool, but thanking you for the first of the above would be nonsense, and thanking you for the second could theoretically be taken as affirming your good-humour self-deprecation ("Yes, you are an idiot; thank you for recognizing that"), and so I felt the need to respond in words and clarify that that's ''not'' what I mean. And in case it wasn't clear, I'm just kidding and will almost certainly be a massive hypocrite and continue calling myself an idiot in edit-summaries going forward. :P [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 00:39, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

== Shoman Productions ==

Hi, you recently closed [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Shoman_Productions Shoman Productions] as no consensus. I don't agree with the "no consensus" close especially since the Keep !voters failed to provide an reasoning based on policy/guidelines and failed to provide any references, but since you haven't provided an explanation I don't know what reasoning you may have had. Can you explain your reasoning please? [[User:HighKing|<b style="font-family: Courier; color: darkgreen;"> HighKing</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:HighKing|<span style="font-family: Courier; color: #da0000;">++ </span>]]</sup> 13:31, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
:{{u|HighKing}}, sure. There was not s consensus to delete. Those opposing deletion felt that it was significant, which means that sourcing is likely to exist. We are supposed to take this into account per [[WP:NPOSSIBLE]], especially for regions were English sourcing is lacking. Even if we weighted the arguments weaker (which I did, for what it’s worth), they shouldn’t be discounted completely as they are reasonable arguments with a policy basis even if there was no ALLCAPS appeal. There was ''not'' a consensus to delete the article, and we require consensus to hit the delete button rather than consensus to keep. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 13:41, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks Tony. Hmmm ... not only did nobody put forward that argument as a reason to Keep, surely any AfD can argue that sourcing is "likely to exist" as a reason without having to produce references? Does that mean they should all immediately be kept? And what sourcing is "likely to exist"? There are no indications that this topic is notable or that a reference that meets the criteria for establishing notability on this topic actually exists, especially since those comments refer to the films and tv series produced by the company and not of the company itself. I agree that sources might exist that would refer to the films and tv series and as one Keep !voter noted, "one of which was notable enough to be mentioned by the BBC", but notability is not inherited. At the very least, can you perhaps reopen this one and relist to see if it attracts another comment or two? [[User:HighKing|<b style="font-family: Courier; color: darkgreen;"> HighKing</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:HighKing|<span style="font-family: Courier; color: #da0000;">++ </span>]]</sup> 13:54, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
:::I don’t think people need to put forth ALLCAPS arguments for them to be valid: admins are supposed to be able to identify policy and guideline based arguments even if the participants in a discussion don’t cite th chapter and verse. The idea was that this production company was significant in the country that it existed in was raised, and that because of this it was likely to be notable. That is a valid argument under our policies and guidelines. Additionally, someone raised redirecting as a valid ATD, which also puts a delete closure in this type of discussion on shakier ground. I won’t be relisting as there was already a full conversation and I don’t think further relists would clarify consensus. You’re free to take it to a deletion review if you want. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 14:04, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
::::Thanks again Tony. I'll leave it for the original nom to decide if it warrants a review. I appreciate you providing a detailed explanation. [[User:HighKing|<b style="font-family: Courier; color: darkgreen;"> HighKing</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:HighKing|<span style="font-family: Courier; color: #da0000;">++ </span>]]</sup> 16:02, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

== Dhaka edit warring ==

Hi TonyBalloni. I see you've page protected [[:Dhaka]]. Was wondering if it would be appropriate to revert back to the last stable revision before the edit warring began per [[:WP:STATUSQUO]]? I had done that once already in an attempt to encourage the IP adding the content to try and engage in discussion, but was reverted. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 23:48, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
:Hi, {{u|Marchjuly}}, there’s currently a discussion at RSN about the sourcing. I’m not going to edit through the protection per [[meta:Wrong version]]. Thanks for raising the question, though. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 23:52, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
::That's fine. Thank you for clarifying. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 00:06, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

== Please remove my wiki block from my javascript page ==

I placed a self imposed block on Saturday for a week’s duration and would now like to remove it, but I can’t. Pardon any incorrect terminology that I’m using but please remove the code the prevents me from logging in from my js page. – [[User:JocularJellyfish|JocularJellyfish]] [[User talk:JocularJellyfish|<sup>Talk</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/JocularJellyfish|<sub>Contribs</sub>]] 21:09, 12 February 2018 (UTC) – [[User:JocularJellyfish|JocularJellyfish]] [[User talk:JocularJellyfish|<sup>Talk</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/JocularJellyfish|<sub>Contribs</sub>]] 21:09, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
:{{u|JocularJellyfish}}: {{done}}. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 21:15, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
::{{Reply to|TonyBallioni}} Thank you! – [[User:JocularJellyfish|JocularJellyfish]] [[User talk:JocularJellyfish|<sup>Talk</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/JocularJellyfish|<sub>Contribs</sub>]] 21:37, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

== Redirect log ==

Hi Tony, Received the New Page Reviewer Newsletter on 8 February, and notice the the redirect review is part of NPP task.  Could I know where I could find the direct log and which guild page to read up on reviewing a redirect.  Thanks in advance.  [[User:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>]])</sup> 02:47, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
:{{replyto|CASSIOPEIA|PamD}} since you've both asked about it: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewPages?namespace=0&tagfilter=mw-new-redirect&username=&size-mode=min&size= this link] should take you to the log of newly created redirects. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 03:01, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
:: Thank you Tony. [[User:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>]])</sup> 03:48, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

== Autopatrolled review for Werldwayd ==

Hi TonyBallioni. Would you or one your admin talk page watchers please review {{noping|Werldwayd}}'s autopatrolled status. I went though creations since December (e.g. [[Samra (album)]], [[La Voix de l'Est (Granby)]], [[La Patrie (French newspaper)]], [[West African Linguistic Society]], [[José Escajadillo Farro]], [[Fuera de Clase]], [[Zé Felipe]], [[2:30 min]], [[El Shark]], [[Ayk (daily)]], and [[Hayastan (periodical)]]) and found them lacking adequate sourcing. —&thinsp;[[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]]&thinsp;<small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 05:41, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
:{{u|JJMC89}}, thanks for letting me know. I’ve revoked the flag. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 06:01, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
:: Thanks, Tony. —&thinsp;[[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]]&thinsp;<small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 06:06, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

== Sockpuppet identity ==

Hi TonyBallioni, I think (in fact I'm certain) that {{noping|Kanjuncgtion}} is a sock of {{noping|Nsmutte}}, not BattleshipMan (you blocked Kanjuncgtion as a sock of an unknown user, but added a "suspected sock of BattleshipMan" notice to their user talk page). Various Nsmutte socks have recently been linking to an old unrelated AfD at ANI, just like Kanjuncgtion did [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=825377177&oldid=825376982 here], and NSM's writing style is also rather different from BattleshipMan's. The main thing is that the sock is blocked and there is no particular reason to formally link the account to Nsmutte (maybe best to deny recognition), but BM should not be suspected of socking here. --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 11:02, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
:{{tpw}} That'd be good news {{u|Bonadea}} <small>(exc. for Nsmutte, but you know what I mean)</small> as frankly BM did little enough for his reputation with that AN thread already, without socking suspicions on top. Just a [[point of order]] though, it was {{noping|Todds1}} who addedd the "Sock of BM" tag, [[special:diff/825378533|here]]. Hope all's well! [[User:Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:black">''' >SerialNumber'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:dark blue">'''54129'''</span>]][[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<sup>...speculates</sup>]] 11:19, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
:{{u|Bonadea}}, yes. I didn’t block BM and had no idea who the master was. Toddst1 placed that template. Thanks for the note. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 13:23, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
::Oops. I'm sorry, that was sloppy of me - I noticed you'd blocked and then I clearly didn't look closely enough at the talk page history. It wouldn't surprise me if the first two letters of the user name registered and translated into Tony rather than Todd in my brain. --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 13:44, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

== Speedy deletion nomination of Outhentic ==

Hello Toni Ballioni, I tried to make the changes that were required from me in this article: [[Outhentic]]. I created a new draft here which waiting for review: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Outhentic. 
I wonder if you might consider reviewing it. I also would like to say that I sent an e-mail to permissions-en@wikimedia.org about the copyright of the text in the article but I didn't receive an answer.
 
About that "Why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia?", I think that folklore is a substantial part of the unique cultural heritage of every nation. For that reason I think this article is very important for the the people all over the world, It's going to enrich their knowledgment about cultural and musical diversity. The bulgarian folk band - Outhentic is very interesting and popular here in Bulgaria and they present bulgarian folk music in a very different and atractive way. The band also has a success outside the borders of Bularia and last year took part in amazing festivals like one of the biggest festivals in the world - Glastonbury Festival 2017. I think the article is useful for everyone in the world and think it is notable and should be published here in Wikipedia.
Cheers,
[[User:Raina Vassileva|Raina Vassileva]] ([[User talk:Raina Vassileva|talk]]) 09:24, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
:{{u|Raina Vassileva}}, even if there were OTRS permission, I wouldn't restore to mainspace because the deleted article meets our [[WP:A7|A7 criteria]] for speedy deletion as it did not assert why the subject was important. <s>Honestly the draft version is much better (though it did include copyrighted text which I have removed).</s> I would suggest working on that version through the AfC process as the best way forward. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 10:57, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
::{{tq|''Honestly the draft version is much better''}}--How worse was the first?![[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">~ ''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup>  11:17, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
:::Sorry: strike that. I was looking through mobile at the time, and the deleted page view is not exactly the most mobile friendly page, so things rendered where it looked to be different, and I must have been comparing different parts: they aren't different. My fault. That actually makes this process pretty simple: someone will review the OTRS ticket, and if the permission is valid, you can use the text. We can keep the draft in AfC for now, and if you improve it to a state where it would be likely to survive in mainspace, and AfC reviewer will move it. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 12:26, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
::::''Mobile'' and ''Wikipedia'' never seem to go well together:)[[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">~ ''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup>  12:30, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

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== Hi ==

User [[User:86.133.229.118|86.133.229.118]] is sock puppet of [[User:JellyBaby1|JellyBaby1]]. [[User:Andreasthaler|AndreasThaler]] ([[User talk:Andreasthaler|talk]] 14 February 2018 (UTC)
:{{u|AndreasThaler}}, I've blocked. They'll likely be back within the next few hours given how dynamic British IPs are. If they do and it is on specific pages, let me know and I'll block and/or protect the pages. Welcome to Wikipedia, by the way! [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 15:48, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
::Thank you, mate. [[User:Andreasthaler|AndreasThaler]] ([[User talk:Andreasthaler|talk]] 14 February 2018 (UTC)

==Deletion review for [[Bernie Singles]]==
[[User:Davey2116]] has asked for a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2018 February 15#Bernie Singles|deletion review]] of [[Bernie Singles]]. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. <!-- This originally was from the template {{subst:DRVNote|PAGE_NAME}} ~~~~ --> —[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] 03:54, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks, {{u|Cryptic}}. I've commented. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 04:05, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

== [[Origen]] ==

Hello! I have spent the past month or so rewriting the article [[Origen]] and I have just nominated it as a "Good Article." Since the GA nominations page is perpetually backlogged and I do not think that Origen is well-known enough today to attract reviewers on his own, I thought I would endeavor to try to find editors who might be willing to review the article. I do not know how much you know about the Church Fathers, but I was wondering if you would be willing to review it, since I know you regularly edit articles related to Catholicism and you seem to be the most qualified editor in this subject area that I know has been actively involved in reviewing GA nominations. --[[User:Katolophyromai|Katolophyromai]] ([[User talk:Katolophyromai|talk]]) 22:16, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
:Heh, about 1000 years before the time period where I start being familiar with things, but I know enough about the Church Fathers that I could probably do a GA review. I won't claim it yet, but I'll take a look in the next few days. Regardless, thanks for your work improving history of Christianity articles. It's one of the areas the encyclopedia still needs very serious work in terms of quality improvement, so I appreciate it anytime anyone tries to bring articles up to GA or FAC in the field{{bcc|Katolophyromai}}. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 22:27, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

== Adding SCCAP & APA vetted resources due to contagion effect ==

Hi, Tony,
Thanks for the work that you are doing to edit Wikipedia!
I am working to try to add list of resources has been reviewed by the [[Society of Clinical Child and Adolescent Psychology]] and multiple presidents of divisions of the American Psychological Association. The list of resources is being disseminated over multiple professional listservs. This is not medical advice. It is information that is geared towards the general public and is of a public health nature to help people decide if they should seek consultation, and to make it easier for people to access services. 
It is well-established that exposure to traumatic events in the news can be activating for people who have experienced trauma in the past, so it is appropriate to add these curated sources now. If you check the page traffic, it is obvious that there is a 1000x increase in traffic to these pages in the days after the Florida event. This is precisely why it is in the public interest to add links to the information here. We identified these sites by looking at the 12 most visited pages today. 
Feel free to contact me on my talk page or by email, eay@unc.edu. I am happy to talk by phone as well. 
I would like to stress that these are good faith edits, trying to put curated information where the people who would benefit can find it. 
Thank you again! [[User:Eyoungstrom|Prof. Eric A. Youngstrom]] ([[User talk:Eyoungstrom|talk]]) 21:12, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
:Hi, {{u|Eyoungstrom|Eric}}, I'll ask {{u|Doc James}} <small>(James, for context, we are discussing edits like [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting&type=revision&diff=826037659&oldid=826022665 this])</small> to weigh in here as he is a medical professional who edits Wikipedia in a volunteer capacity as well, and is one of our most prolific medical contributors. My view is that the inclusion of resources is typically outside the scope of a Wikipedia article, and while they may be very good mental resources, adding them to articles on school shootings without consensus is a form of soapboxing and giving undue weight to the mental health resources as compared to the rest of the subject. This is especially true if someone has already challenged the inclusion of the text. Also, thanks for your work to integrate Wikipedia at Carolina's campus, I appreciate that a lot as an alumnus. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 21:25, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
::What the Society of Clinical Child and Adolescent Psychology needs to do is create one page that lists all these resources.
::Than we add ONE link to this page calling it maybe "Resources from the SCCAP" or whatever. 
::12 links in the EL section is not appropriate IMO.
::That these group of links are being added across multiple articles is concerning. [[User:Doc James|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Doc James|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Doc James|email]]) 00:38, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
:::Thanks, both of you! I am grateful for the feedback and guidance. I see the wisdom in {{u|Doc James}}'s suggestion. Adding a single internal link to a Wikipedia page will be more elegant, less cluttered, and easier to update if a new resource becomes available. More space for framing for different contexts, too. I am going to work on getting a Wikipedia page put together. I am also working on getting input from the professional societies about the resources (including the new Wikipedia page). I am organizing a "flash" edit-a-thon tomorrow between 1:00 pm and 6:00 pm Eastern (10 am- 3 pm Pacific for Doc James) that will work on building out the page and adding links. Hopefully this will work to funnel a lot of energy and ideas from outside Wikipedia into a focused effort that you can help guide. I am grateful for a "middle way" that will let us add links to resources on pages where the traffic is surging after a traumatic event, too, as contagion and activation are well established issues. 

:::If helpful, I can forward any of the correspondence happening outside Wikipedia on the professional society lists. It's fascinating to me to see this developing in both the Wikipedia and the psychology community. I still have a lot to learn about how to work within the Wikipedia community, and I am deeply appreciative of any pointers and assistance. 

:::Looking forward to next steps! [[User:Eyoungstrom|Prof. Eric A. Youngstrom]] ([[User talk:Eyoungstrom|talk]]) 19:45, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
::::James would be better at providing feedback for this type of article than I would (he and I work very closely on things involving conflict of interest and promotional editing, but my content work here deals mainly with history of religion, not medical things.) If there is anything that you might need an admin bit for during this or future edit-a-thons, feel free to let me know. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 19:50, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::My proposal was to have the SCCAP create a page that includes all these links and than we could link to this one EL.
:::::[[Curlie]] might be interested in such a page of links aswell. We could than link to that. We do not generally host lists of links here. [[User:Doc James|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Doc James|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Doc James|email]]) 23:18, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::Hi, again, what we are working on is (a) one page, that (b) contains the links, and (c) contains expository text that will describe what types of resources are available and when they are appropriate. I think that the combination of organized links to a variety of resources, organized by intended audience, and with context, will be much better than what we were originally envisioning. 
::::::Again, LMK if you want to see emails or drafts. The title of the page is not going to be tied to one society (multiple ones are contributing, and hopefully that also helps allay any concerns about self promotion for any one society). I think that the result coming into focus is a resource that will be available for future crises, and also can start to accrue citations to the reviews and evidence about the different information (using secondary sources! Cochrane, meta-analyses, and systematic reviews or practice parameters preferred :-)). That will come later as soon as possible, but the first pass will most likely be resources and framing. We are doing the best we can. Thanks, and looking forward to next steps....01:46, 18 February 2018 (UTC)  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Eyoungstrom|Eyoungstrom]] ([[User talk:Eyoungstrom#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Eyoungstrom|contribs]]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== hi ==

the page was last moved in 2014. Whatever sanctions you were talking about is unrelated. 

besides, there are rules you have to follow 1) be objective, nobody's talking about bomb control or anything else control, 2) freedom, if the edit's deemed controversial only by you, you're breaching your power. There's no rule saying a controversial topic cannot be edited. 

Plus, is what's currently on there not biased and controversial?

I'm sorry Wikipedia is run by people like you. I apologize on behalf of the Wikipedian community. 

You clearly don't understand a thing about Wikipedia. Don't blabber about your admin status. You Donald John knows much about gov? He's the head of it. [[User:張泰銘|張泰銘]] ([[User talk:張泰銘|talk]]) 22:14, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Stuff like this has happened before. Yeah, you'll win for now but we'll see whether facts win in the end and bias dies in the end. It's up to the people to wake up. Not me. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:張泰銘|張泰銘]] ([[User talk:張泰銘#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/張泰銘|contribs]]) 22:14, 18 February 2018 (UTC)</small>
:{{u|張泰銘}}, page moves can be controversial. I have not taken any stance on the content issue. All I did was alert you that discretionary sanctions exist in all areas involving the governmental regulation of firearms. I have no opinion on the content, and my notification of you does not imply any wrongdoing, as the template says. It only informs you that an administrative situation exists on Wikipedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to let me know. All the best, [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 22:19, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
:: And exactly why would I have to be informed on that? It's unrelated...[[User:張泰銘|張泰銘]] ([[User talk:張泰銘|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
:::Pretty sure the articles [[Gun Reform]] and [[Gun politics in the United States]] are related to "governmental regulation of firearms" - [[User:There'sNoTime|TNT]]<sup>[[User talk:There'sNoTime|❤]]</sup> 22:26, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
:::[[User:張泰銘|張泰銘]], see above. You also did a page move without discussion for the main article in a [[WP:AC/DS|discretionary sanctions]] area. The template only lets you know that this area has been contentious, and that administrators have been given authority to issue sanctions to help limit any potential disruption in the area. Again, if you have any other questions, please let me know. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni#top|talk]]) 22:31, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
::::I'm asking you clearly: you deemed something as controversial and targeted me to "inform"? Why? [[User:張泰銘|張泰銘]] ([[User talk:張泰銘|talk]]) 22:33, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Because if I didn't trigger a disruption then why did you do that? Okay you have the power. I'm happy you do. Long as you don't go around using it like drumpf does.