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== Thanks.  ==

Thanks very kindly for the barnstar.  Arthur Ellis' comment was a private joke pertaining to [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Rachel_Marsden|this]].  All the best, [[User:Bucketsofg|<font color="#DF0001"><b>Buck</b></font><b><font color="green">ets</font></b><font color="grey"><b>ofg</b></font>]] 22:11, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

== Could you help me with some things? ==

How do I subscribe to the Wikipedia Signpost?

I thought an admin would know, so I decided to ask you.

Thankyou

--[[User:Suicidal tendancies|Suicidal tendancies]] 08:14, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you very much! ==

It did help, you are a great admin! --[[User:Suicidal tendancies|Suicidal tendancies]] 17:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

== Barnstar ==

Thank you very much for the barnstar! Yes it's true, I did only have just the one. It's nice to receive messages like that once in a while. Thank you very much. :) [[User:Wikiwoohoo|Wikiwoohoo]] [[User talk:Wikiwoohoo|<sub>talk</sub>]] 19:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

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== My RFA ==

I have submitted my Rfa!

--[[User:Suicidal tendancies|Suicidal tendancies]] 14:34, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

== Bickering ==

I'd appreciate it if you could point out what you consider as 'bickering'.  To the best of my knowledge I havent engaged Mahawiki since the block, inspite of him and his pal [[User:Arya_Rajya_Maharashtra]] trying hard to troll [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Saare_Jahan_Se_Achcha&curid=1002660&diff=82253819&oldid=82246845 '''HERE'''].

In keeping with the standard procedures of Wikipedia I have reported Arya [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Personal_attack_intervention_noticeboard&diff=82255528&oldid=82222886 '''here'''].

As far as Mahawiki and my own concerns of 'unfair blocking(of me)' is concerned, I've raised the issue on the admins' noticeboard(in case you hadnt noticed) and [[User:Consumed_Crustacean |'''Admin Consumed Crustacean''']] is mediating.

I'd appreciate it if you stopped tarring me with the same brush as Mahawiki.  I'd also appreciate it if you would take a look at the long history of Mahawiki's uncivil behaviour, the 'diffs' for which, I have mentioned on the Admins' noticeboard.

'''It is not just me''', but even other users like [[User:KNM]], [[User:Naveenbm]], [[User:Dineshkannambadi]] etc., that Mahawiki has once again attacked '''as recently as a couple of hours ago'''.

Even [[User:KNM]] has taken exception to his remarks on the [[Sare_Jahan_Se_Achcha]] talk page and has even complained to [[User:Ragib |Admin Ragib]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ragib&diff=prev&oldid=82276776 '''HERE'''].  I'd really appreciate it if you would stop taking all of Mahawiki's <u>unsubstantiated claims</u> at face value.  I request you to take a close look at his history of incivil behaviour which I and other [[Kannada]] editors have suffered for the last two months and more.

Things wouldnt have come to such a pass if an admin had acted upon my complaint almost a month ago.  And even now, it is not too late to rein him in.  Thanks.   [[User:Sarvagnya|Sarvagnya]] 20:43, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

== White Guard ==

Thank you for removing the block placed on my account.  You will clearly have read my response to this on my talk page.  On the Stalin page I edited out-with a summary explanation-what I believed to be an attempt to rewrite the historical record, a form, if you like, of political vandalism.  The user in question has a record of pushing a particular Stalinist perspective on other pages, notably the Hungarian Rising of 1956.  If you look at the Stalin talk page you will see that I have been defending, at some length, the contention that Stalin was a dictator, an historically apt description.  I do nothing without thought and reflection.  To have a block placed upon me without warning, and with no attempt whatsoever to discuss the issue, I consider both unfair and an abuse of power.  I feel ''deeply'' aggrieved with this, and intend to ask for a review of the whole process involved.  [[User:White Guard|White Guard]] 23:10, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

== RFA comments ==

I just wanted to say thanks to you two ([[User:Redvers|Redvers]], [[User:(aeropagitica)|(aeropagitica)]]) for the detail in comments you put on my RFA. It's surprisingly helpful to know what I need to improve upon, and that encouragement will hopefully be put to good use. I'll take what you said and be back next year with what I hope will be a stronger case for adminship. :) --[[User:BradBeattie|BradBeattie]] 02:39, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
:Furthermore, I just edited my custom revert software to address your comment on informing vandals [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1580168&group_id=179931&atid=891139]. Hopefully my revert efforts will be more community friendly now as anything. --[[User:BradBeattie|BradBeattie]] 03:08, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Side note, would the two of you mind if I come back to you in a couple months time before I re-RFA? I'd like to know if I'm on the right track before I put myself up for voting next time. --[[User:BradBeattie|BradBeattie]] 03:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

== Your message ==

Thanks for ur message.Please read my full message on noticeboard,where I have specified that I am just concerned about [[NPOV]] at [[Belgaum_border_dispute]] which is an sensitive and emotional subject for us.I dont have any intrest in talking with the other guy in question let alone personal attacks.U may find in the noticeboad also that this guy is busy badmouthing againsr me and all he wants to get me blocked!

In any ways I will not allow nonsense against [[Maharashtra]].I dont take abuses or howlings whether it is Sarvagnya's or admins personally.But I wont keep mum when someone's insulting my language or my state anyhow.

Ball is in ur court.Tell me what to do if-
*Someone's writing nonsense against [[Marathi]] or [[Maharashtra]]
I have been pleading admins from ages to keep a watch on [[belgaum_border_dispute]] but in vain.If anyone does that I dont think  will bother anyone.
[[User:Mahawiki|Mahawiki]] 06:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

:About ur message on noticeboard.I have only responded after admin asked for a explaination.I have acknowledged my wrongs and I am willing to co-operate with admins. [[User:Mahawiki|Mahawiki]] 06:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

== BBC One / BBC One Scotland / BBC Scotland ==

I don't understand what you're doing now and why you've merged BBC Scotland into BBC One but let BBC One Scotland stay. - [[User:Lee Stanley|Lee Stanley]] 21:01, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
: [[User:Grampiantelevision]] has since reverted your edit. If you're going to do something please explain it properly in the edit summary. - [[User:Lee Stanley|Lee Stanley]] 21:05, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
::[[BBC One Scotland]] has been properly merged with [[BBC One]]. [[BBC Scotland]] has been left unedited (other than to remove the redundant merge tag). There's no reason to merge [[BBC One Scotland]] with [[BBC Scotland]] - that's merging apples with oranges - but every reason to merge [[BBC One Scotland]] with the channel it is a variant of - [[BBC One]]. And that's what I've done. I've certainly not merged [[BBC Scotland]] with [[BBC One]]: the very idea is ridiculous. And I gave a full edit summary to what I was doing, unlike others. [[User_talk:Redvers|➨ ]]<b><font color="red">[[User:Redvers|ЯEDVERS]]</font></b> 21:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC) (copied)
::: Righty-ho. I got a little confused with what was being moved where, and a discussion page disappeared and reappeared int he process when your merge already reverted. I'm sorry but I'm going to leave this one in your hands! - [[User:Lee Stanley|Lee Stanley]] 21:12, 19 October 2006 (UTC) (please reply here (I should put this in my signature!))

== FYI ==

I noticed the edit [[User:Jay Kana|Jay Kana]] performed on your comment in [[User talk:Jay Kana]] in a way to obsure it. Thought you might want to know about it. The edited box follows. [[User:Stealthound|Stealthound]] 21:39, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

{{unblock reviewed|My account was hacked :(|decline=I'm sorry that happened. You must now establish a new account and edit constructively from that new account from now on. And keep your password safe and remember to log out when you have finished. Basic precautions you would apply to online banking and email apply at Wikipedia. Thanks. -- [[User_talk:Redvers|➨ ]]<b><font color="red">[[User:Redvers|ЯEDVERS]]</font></b> 21:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)|Just kidding lol. [[User:Jay Kana|Jay Kana]] 14:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)}}
== Award ==
{{The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar|Thank you for your vandalism blocks--[[User:Seadog.M.S|<span style="color:red;">Sea</span>]][[User talk:Seadog.M.S|<span style="color:blue;">dog</span>]][[User:Seadog.M.S/You clicked my "Green" M.S|<span style="color:green;">.M.S</span>]] 23:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)}}
I cant for some reason get it working right, oh well just wanting to say thanks for you work in this area--[[User:Seadog.M.S|<span style="color:red;">Sea</span>]][[User talk:Seadog.M.S|<span style="color:blue;">dog</span>]][[User:Seadog.M.S/You clicked my "Green" M.S|<span style="color:green;">.M.S</span>]] 23:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Your welcome I am inspired by your vandalism works--[[User:Seadog.M.S|<span style="color:red;">Sea</span>]][[User talk:Seadog.M.S|<span style="color:blue;">dog</span>]][[User:Seadog.M.S/You clicked my "Green" M.S|<span style="color:green;">.M.S</span>]] 16:14, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

==Permission==
Dear Redvers, 
With your permission, I would like to discuss with you briefly about [[User_talk:Sarvagnya#Enough|this conversation]]? Please let me know. Thanks. - [[User:KNM|KNM]] <sup> '''[[:User_talk:KNM|Talk]]'''</sup> 02:39, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
:Dear Redvers, thanks for letting me know that I can feel free to talk to you.  The reason I asked you for permission was because I saw your strongly worded warning to Sarvagnya not to talk about this matter anymore.  So I was a little apprehensive about how you might take to my bringing up the matter again.

:Anyway, coming to the issue, I just wanted to let you know of my thoughts on this as you are an admin who is involved in this.

:Basically, the dispute between Sarvagnya and Mahawiki is not strictly a dispute between Sarvagnya and Mahawiki.  It is more a dispute between Mahawiki and whoever Mahawiki deems to be Sarvagnya's friends.  This has over the last two months grown to include all [[Kannada]] speaking editors.

:Mahawiki's incivility has been targetted not just at Sarvagnya but is more often than not aimed at all editors who speak [[Kannada]].  You can notice this in his comments, in his edit summaries etc.

:In return, I do admit that his opponents also were incivil at times.  But ''for the most part''(save for a couple of sporadic instances) it had and has stopped for well over a month now.  But incivility by Mahawiki is continuing even to this day.  Even as recently as yesterday, they(Mahawiki and friends) have in bad faith filed a [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/sarvagnya|charge of sockpuppetry on Sarvagnya]] and three other editors all of whom are [[Kannadigas]].  This, when the same ([[User:Sarvagnya]] and [[User:Naveenbm]]) sockpuppetry allegation had been filed by them hardly 2-3 weeks back and had returned a negative(result = "unrelated") response.  While filing a checkuser is within the rules, filing the same allegation over and over again within days and weeks of each other, is in my view, [[WP:Civility|uncivil]].  Also if you see their comments on that page, you will see that even before the result is out they are already talking as if Sarvagnya is a convicted puppetmaster, which surely is uncivil. Please note that, this allegation by Mahawiki was made, '''after''' you have warned him to Stop arguing in public.

:This is the most recent incident that I just explained, but there are several other instances that can be cited.  I neither have the patience nor do I think it is necessary to go into all those now.

:Also it is not as if, Sarvagnya didnt try to get someone to mediate before things came to such a pass.  Like he has said in all his recent defences, he had infact submitted detailed complaints to several admins almost a month ago.  And yet, none of the admins warned Mahawiki or even Sarvagnya for that matter.  This only shows that none of them even cared to investigate it and nip it in the bud.

:So in the light of the above,  I also feel that you were a little hasty in judging the issue.  Even if my opinion on the fairness of your ''judgement'' can be termed 'subjective',  I certainly feel that you could have worded your warning much better and in a less harsher tone.

:My major concern here is that, Mahawiki's friends(not Mahawiki himself since you had given even him the same warning) will in all probability use this warning of yours to Sarvagnya to further their ends in other 'content disputes' and mislead people.

:'''''To remedy this, my humble suggestion and request is, please strike out your warning on Sarvagnya's page and reword it in less harsher but equally stern way.'''''

:Thanks. 

:p.s: All the above is IMHO, but I am sure Mahawiki has very different opinions.  It is for you admins to really dig into this matter and find a solution.

:Thank you again for your time. - [[User:KNM|KNM]] <sup> '''[[:User_talk:KNM|Talk]]'''</sup> 00:18, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

== Help Me Please! ==

I have been experiencing some difficulties while using Wikipedia: Many specific pages cannot be viewed by my browser which is the latest version of [[Mozilla Firefox]]. I'm requesting your help because things have gotten a little too out of hand. So much so that, even my own user page cannot be viewed, not my talk page though. And it only happens on Wikipedia, not on YouTube or anywhere else. So if you can identify a way to prevent this, can you please help me? Thank you so much!! <b><font color="darkseagreen">[[User:Suduser85|ЅυđÜѕєя85]]</font></b> [[User talk:Suduser85|Talk to me]] 12:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks a lot! Am honoured to receive one from you. - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]]) 18:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
:zOMG! Thankeeee! Its a great honour! &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]]<span class="plainlinks"> [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Sir+Nicholas+de+Mimsy-Porpington <font color="black" title="Admin actions"><sup>'''{L}'''</sup></font>]</span> 18:41, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

== [[User_talk:Hahnchen#Edit_summaries]] ==

I don't normally post reply notifications, but am doing so in this case in case I'm '''[[WP:BLOCK|blocked]] from editing without further warning'''. - [[User:Hahnchen|Hahnch]][[Evil|<span title="WP:Esperanza"><font color="green">e</font></span>]][[User:Hahnchen|n]] 23:55, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

==Welcome==

Whats the name of the welcome thing you put on new user's talk pages?
[[User:Clamster5|Clamster5]] 16:09, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! [[User:Clamster5|Clamster5]] 18:27, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering how to get the welcome message that you use. I think its a lot more attractive than the basic one. If you don't want to share it, thats fine. [[User:Clamster5|Clamster5]] 18:56, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Wow, thanks for the barn star, and thanks for the compliment.  No one has suggested that I become an admin before, and I'm not sure what my answer would be.  Unfortunately, I often find myself in controversial situations.  Then I go off and edit in remote corners of Wikipedia or do RC patrol.  But after awhile, I again venture into the dangerous world of controversial articles.  So, I'm not sure I'm the right person to have admin powers.  But thanks again, for that is a real compliment.  Sincerely, --[[User:BostonMA|BostonMA]] <font color = "blue"><sup>[[User talk:BostonMA|talk]]</sup></font> 20:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
== Hey! ==
Look here, I didn't DO any vandalism, I have discussed this with the people who reported me and now I'm discussing it with you! If I didn't do any vandelism, so why should i have a big ol' sign saying I did, WHEN I DIDN'T!!! Why were you even looking at my alk-page, why do you even care? GET OVER YOURSELF! {{unsigned|Tishii}}

*''Replied on talk page [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tishii&diff=prev&oldid=83019682 here], giving all the diffs of the vandalism this user made''. [[User_talk:Redvers|➨ ]]<b><font color="red">[[User:Redvers|ЯEDVERS]]</font></b> 16:09, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

== Mahound, Mahmoud ==

Are you sure the name of the guy you know was Mahound and not Mahmoud. May I ask you where he was from? Cheers. --[[User:Aminz|Aminz]] 09:10, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Redvers]] ==

There is a Request for comment filed against you. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]]<span class="plainlinks"> [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Sir+Nicholas+de+Mimsy-Porpington <font color="black" title="Admin actions"><sup>'''{L}'''</sup></font>]</span> 16:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
== Whatever ==
I didn't vandelize anything and I'm sick and tired of people blaming me... how do you quit wikipedia?