Talk:Esma Sultan (daughter of Abdulaziz)

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Children

She died giving birth to her fifth child, a son: Sultanzade Beyzade Abdullah Bey Efendi (1899 - 1899).

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~royalty/turkey/i396.html#I396

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.99.69 (talk) 20:52, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That link does not point to a reliable secondary source. First of all, ancestry.com records are derived from public records, which are not permitted by WP:BLPPRIMARY. Second of all, the page you linked is user-generated content, which is never acceptable on Wikipedia for anything. Elizium23 (talk) 21:26, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes it is...all other names and dates are the same...;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.98.125 (talk) 17:40, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you insist, then we can take this discussion to the reliable sources noticeboard where others can tell you how it is not a reliable source. Although they will also be tired of this discussion, which was held many previous times, and which I found in the archives of that same notice board. Elizium23 (talk) 19:54, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ancestress

I'm a descendant to Esma Sultana, trough her son: Hüseyin Hayreddin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.124.208 (talk) 15:44, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Arabian Horse Breeder

The Mare "El Samraa" (spelling:Semra) was born 1924 in Istanbul in the Stables of Dolmabahce Palace, breeder was my Great-grandfather Prince (Sultanzade) Hüseyin Hayreddin, He had bought the Parents of the Mare El Samraa from the City As Saqlawiyah in Iraq by the Bedouin Sheikh Abd el Kahir of the Muntefik Tribe, Hab El Reah ca.1915 and Bint El Sheikh ca.1920, was both of the strain Kuhaylan. This Horses went to egypt together with my Great-grandfather, because all members of the Ottoman Dynasty must left Istanbul in 24 Hours... and in Cairo, my Great-grandfather sold the Horses to a Sheikh Hafiz in 1924, So I have no any Documents, only the mouthly given Story of my Family.

NOTE: "El Samraa" a Kuhaylah without substrain, her Sire and Dam was both from the City As Saqlawiyah. This is why she listed her as both: A Saqlawiya and a Kuhaylah...but she was a Kuhaylah As Saqlawiyah it means a Kuhaylah from the City As Saqlawiyah...who is located in Iraq....Believe it or not!!!... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.124.208 (talk) 21:02, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]