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I agree. Just added a small paragraph with reliable sources (RS) regarding the bipartisan calls for Cheatle to resign. It is written in a very neutral tone. Let's see how long it lasts.
The article should include her statement saying that the secret service chose not to cover that roof because of it's slope. The article should also include the actual slope of the roof in question. 149.137.197.20 (talk) 22:35, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, that would be original research. Just because you look at a photo of that roof and conclude that the slope is insignificant, does not matter. You are not a certified expert in the topic, and original research should not be on Wikipedia anyways. We need official sources for that, and neither the CNN nor other reputable sources touched on the topic of the slope of the roof. Only Republican-leaning media reported about the alleged slope of the roof, but they are not considered reliable sources. Therefore, unless a reliable source mentions otherwise, the roof the shooter was on, is extremely sloped and would have been very dangerous to station agents on it. This comes from a certified source, and therefore this is fact, period. 2A02:2F07:DE10:E400:3872:33B:7421:5EFA (talk) 15:23, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A reliable source has mentioned that the Secret Service were stationed on another building with a "much steeper incline". Per CNN article from yesterday 7/21:
"If the slope of the roof didn’t stop the shooter’s ability to open fire, why did it stop law enforcement from staging there? Secret Service snipers, including the ones who killed Crooks, were also staged on a rooftop with a much steeper incline without a problem."
So while the opinion of this section's "roof expert" does not matter, reliable sources do.
With that said, we could mention her initial response(s) in the section about the attempted assassination, but I'm personally just going to wait for reliable sources to comment on her hearing before adding anything about her initial responses. Another editor could add if they want now, though. Hella say hella (talk) 19:54, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Normally in a Wikipedia article about someone, there is a section saying whether they are married, if they have children, what religion (if any) they follow, and so on. This article seems to have no such information - the article appears to be very incomplete. There are all sorts of stories going around - it would be good if the article set out factual information about this person, doing so would reduce speculation and wild stories. 2A02:C7C:E183:AC00:AD9B:AB0F:E8F6:47B7 (talk) 06:49, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Currently reads: "From 2019 to 2022, Cheatle served as senior director of global security at PepsiCo, where she was responsible for directing and implementing security protocols for the company's facilities in North America. Her role involves developing risk management assessment and risk mitigation."
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"she acknowledged it was 'the most significant operational failure at the Secret Service in decades'" seems repeated on July 13, 2024 and on July 22, 2024, if this is not an error maybe on the 2nd date it could be rephrased to something like (not a native speaker so I'm sure it could be phrased better): "she reaffirmed/reiterated her earlier statement on July 13, 2024 that it was 'the most significant operational failure at the Secret Service in decades'" to avoid the risk of misinterpretation of the timeline? 79.138.18.89 (talk) 22:52, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, after re-reading it I think it is actually the same event that is repeated twice, ie: it should probably be removed from the 1st paragraph relating to July 13th. 79.138.18.89 (talk) 22:57, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Article says she was awarded Presidential Rank Award in 2021.This is an award for members of the Senior Executive Service. At that time she was with Pepsi, not in the Senior Executive Service. The timeline doesn't make sense. 173.93.50.80 (talk) 11:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. This appears to be more of a matter for discussion, as it isn't clear what changes should be made, so I'm going to mark this edit request as answered until it's clear what should be changed in the article. --Ferien (talk) 00:08, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The first sentence is: she is born 1970/1971. The Template Short description is: American law enforcement officer (born 1972). Maximum one of them may be correct. --Mann aus 23 (talk) 19:15, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done It looks like the birth year in the article was changed but the short description wasn't changed accordingly. Thanks for noticing! --Ferien (talk) 00:06, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Denied The website is not a reliable source per WP:BLPPRIMARY - " Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses". Yoshiman6464♫🥚21:05, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Already done This citation was added at some point since the request was opened. Jamedeus (talk) 00:46, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. This appears to be more of a matter for discussion, as it isn't clear what changes should be made, so I'm going to mark this edit request as answered until it's clear what should be changed in the article. --Ferien (talk) 00:08, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Not done: the information is sourced and easily attributable to multiple RS (including this one). M.Bitton (talk) 11:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Done It looks like the birth year in the article was changed but the short description wasn't changed accordingly. Thanks for noticing! --Ferien (talk) 00:06, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Denied The website is not a reliable source per WP:BLPPRIMARY - " Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses". Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 21:05, 23 July 2024 (UTC)