Talk:Made in Chelsea

Caggie Dunlop was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 17 July 2011 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Made in Chelsea. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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Episode quotes

I added the episode list and decided to put a space for the opening quotes since they do not have episode titles. However, even though I've type them in they don't seem to be appearing - if anyone knows how to fix this please do it! Thanks. Dallum89 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:10, 30 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Funda

Funda is Turkish not Brazilian (source is E4 website) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.181.86.84 (talk) 10:07, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rate this page

Why does this page have this on? I can't find any information about it. It would be useful to have some kind of link, or explanation on the talk page, to help me figure out what the story is behind this...--Korruski^Talk 16:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unsupported information

Since some users appear to think that the ongoing vandalism of this page is a 'content dispute', let me state here that you should not mention putative 'new characters' or add information about existing characters unless it is thoroughly supported. As they are all living people, it is particularly crucial that information is thoroughly sourced, and I will revert anything that is not.--Korruski^Talk 17:06, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

This is a meaningless sentence: "The first season of the show, however, has been extremely positive with fans." - by definition a 'fan' is someone who is fanatical about something, you can't be both a fan and dislike the show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Experiment 47 (talk • contribs) 14:17, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This sentence was added to separate the views of critics who have reviewed the show. The viewing figures and the trending on twitter are obviously down to people watching the series - the fans. If you have alternative way to write this then please do. 92.29.115.129 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:30, 20 July 2011 (UTC).[reply]

I don't get it?

Is this show scripted? how is it contrived? It's a weird experience watching these people as they talk in the most unnatural way possible. At first I thought they were the worst actors in the world (Hollyoaks cast offs).

How do their stories get told? Is this really a documentary about vacant, fatuous uber-rich people or is it entirely fictitious. I must be getting old as even reading this article makes it hard to understand what the angle is here. Do cameras just follow these "real people" around, like a fly-on-the-wall documentary or is it all just an elaborate scripted experience?

This article tells me nothing. Except what happened in the series which is neither here nor there really. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.255.82 (talk) 21:46, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is difficult to explain the concept if you haven't seen TOWIE, but essentially it offers a view into their lives and the majority of their social interactions. Some of the show is scripted, mainly to make MIC more watchable, and to enhance the storyline etc., but the general themes and activities they do are representative of what they would normally be doing. Perhaps a good example of this is the relationship between Funda and Spencer in the first series. Some of their conversations, particularly those on the phone, are scripted to some extent, but it helps the viewer understand the dynamics of the relationship, which was itself a genuine relationship, not set up for the show. Hope that helps, feel free to get back to me if have made myself unclear, Fluffaduck (talk) 22:22, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with above. I think the main article needs to be heavily rewritten with a new genre definition - not 'reality television' but 'structured reality' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.225.167.73 (talk) 21:52, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's virtually all scripted/fake. Even the scenes when they're in bars, clubs and restaurants are TV sets with extras. They film the bar scenes, in the early morning, before the bar opens - using extras as the other customers. For example Cjmooney9 (talk) 12:06, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I agree with the original poster in this section. This is precisely the information I came to find out, that is, I don't get it either and wanted to understand the format of the show! A section is needed on the main page explaining the premise of the format, that is, is it scripted, are they actors, etc. 80.229.162.156 (talk) 23:22, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This show is highly demographically targeted. If you're not under 25 and female you're very unlikely to 'get it'. Advertisers love this demographic which is why structured reality garbage continues to be churned out. --Ef80 (talk) 14:17, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Job descriptions

Unless there is a genuine profession of being an 'uphill gardener' i think a quick Google of that term will show that someone has been quite the subtle vandal.

Edit request on 24 May 2012

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This article says midnight city by M83 is the theme music for series 1 and 2 but the theme music for series 1 was Punching In A Dream by The Naked And Famous

Thanks :) Jak

82.132.139.152 (talk) 17:18, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: This page is no longer protected. Subject to consensus, you should be able to edit it yourself. elektrik SHOOS (talk) 02:16, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Excessive use of quotation marks in opening paragraph

There is excessive use of quotation marks in the opening paragraph, for example: Made in Chelsea is a "scripted" reality television series. This is a technique frequently employed in the British tabloid press to protect the journalist when making a potentially incorrect or libellous statement. Usually it is clear that a program is either scripted or it isn't but in the unusual case of MiC, this isn't immediately clear. From my understanding of the show, I think that the term semi-scripted would be more appropriate. The term semi-scripted would be adequately explained by the following sentence which mentions that the characters play scripted versions of themselves (again the quotation marks are unnecessary). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellismatt (talk • contribs) 19:52, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Structured

Can we please, please, please not have the word 'structured' THREE TIMES in as many lines? It's clunky and frankly poor writing.

It used to say they played 'scripted' versions of themselves, was this incorrect? If not, that would get rid of one of the repetitions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.221.73.75 (talk) 14:35, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Guardian uses the phrase "constructed reality television". The concept is in need of elaboration. I've put it up for discussion on the Talk page for the "Reality Television" article Rainjar. (talk) 00:49, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Louise

i don't know, or frankly care if Louise was in the first season, but stop changing it forwards and backwards like children and DISCUSS THE ISSUE HERE.

Was Louise in series 1? Yes/no

Should perhaps she be listed as 1(supporting) 2-4(main)??

STOP BEING PETTY.

188.221.73.75 (talk) 02:15, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mark-Francis Vandelli's link to the Russian Royal Family

This article says that Mark-Francis Vandelli's mother is a Russian princess. There are no reliable sources for this. This was probably added by a fan (or someone) trying to link this character to the defunct Imperial family of Russia. As such, I am removing this. 2.26.95.56 (talk) 09:49, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cast member pages

Hi all. I've noticed that most of the cast member pages redirect to this page. Are we not able to create separate cast member pages? This seems a bit unconventional, especially as this article doesn't provide details of each cast member. Many thanks, --LegereScire (talk) 09:32, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Merger proposal

I prodded the Mark-Francis Vandelli ([1]) and Louise Thompson (TV personality) ([2]) articles and the prods were removed by this editor - here and here respectively. The subjects are not notable enough to warrant a stand-alone article other than being in a television show (Made in Chelsea). Rather than taking them to Afd at this stage, I am asking for the community's input as to whether these two articles (Mark-Francis Vandelli and Louise Thompson (TV personality)) should be merged to Made in Chelsea - as they were prior to their creation? The show is more notable than these individuals and they only got their assumed "notability" from the TV show. They do not even pass WP:ENT in my opinion. Some cast members went on to be notable in their own right, but these two are not one of them. It appears that each series of this TV show has its own article. I am therefore proposing that instead of going into too much detail about each series in the main article, simply list them in their appropriate sections thereby giving more room in the main article for a short bio of the non-notable cast members. The main article is not actually very long if you look carefully. It is mainly the tables and info about each series which are taking a lot of space. If anyone has a better idea please contribute here. Thanks. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 15:48, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Caggie Dunlop, another cast member who was nominated for deletion in 2011 [3] was closed as merge. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 16:30, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Both clearly meet WP:BASIC: People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability. They both have multiple full articles on them in publications like the Independent, Telegraph and BBC News. There is some coverage in the articles, and lots more show up on a quick Google. Boleyn (talk) 19:51, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would support merging - considering that the main MiC page has a section on cast appearances on other shows there's no need for these separate cast member pages. AIowA (talk) 18:06, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if this discussion is still active, but I support merging. The two "celebrities" aren’t notable enough for a separate article at all. – DarkGlow (talk) 21:35, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

COI editing

Based on the single purpose nature of their edits, usernames, and promotional content added, I believe that ChelseaEdit, RealityTVBlogs, and ThisIsDanny are engaging in undisclosed paid editing. 112.119.86.128 (talk) 12:19, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

RealityTVBlogs has a COI but probably isn't being paid, the others just look like to be fans of reality shows. --89.153.64.16 (talk) 23:56, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't agree. If they have a COI then they are almost certainly being paid. If they have any financial relationship with the subject that is paid editing. I can't imagine anyone but an agent, PR flack, cast member, producer, etc. making the type of edits seen from these users.112.119.86.128 (talk) 12:03, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Tiff Watson" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Tiff Watson. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 18#Tiff Watson until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:41, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cast questions

Recent fan of the show here. I'm looking at each series page and the cast lists are a tiny bit confusing. Not exactly sure how we categorize people who were consistently present throughout each series versus people who made a few appearances. For example, Louise Thompson was listed as "cast" in series 1 despite making one appearance. I also noticed Ianthe was never included in series 4 wiki despite making enough appearances to count as a main cast member.

I have been trying to clean up the pages that are available but I'm also realizing that some IMDB pages are not consistent with the main episode count. I noticed that Fordy from series 7 has a count of 6 episodes yet IMDB doesn't. I actually trust the wiki more, so I want to make sure I don't remove people who technically count as main cast.

I'm open to discussion on how to resolve this. I might be taking it too seriously but I want to help keep everything consistent. I'm also open to learning how to add pages for all of the series that don't have official pages. King1559 (talk) 19:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]