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An error?

I assume that this was a mistake. Nevertheless, I have undone it. Best, Steve Crossin ^Talk/_{Help us mediate!} 21:42, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Rows numbered 'n'

In List of films based on war books:
Hi, Rows numbered 'n' are not in position.
They need to be put into position then the entire table needs to be renumbered.
That's a pain in the arse, which is why rows are sitting there numbered 'n', and awaiting further additions to that table.
FYI, Varlaam (talk) 05:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Play -> Play (theatre)

Great. Thank you. Very fast response on that.
Here's the full story.
I found this nice war films page in March. Fixed a couple of errors; added a film.

I happen to be a former "Top Contributor", as they are known, to the IMDb, so this page is totally up my alley. So, just casually, it's grown by 15 times and gone from 1 page to 8.

But I've replicated an existing table structure. Where did that come from? Was it intelligent or arbitrary? I messaged the originator of the page. He did not respond.

The table has a column for Book Type. Novel vs. Play. That was defined as a lookup.

Why on Earth does a page need 200 lookups on the word "novel"???

Why didn't he just have a Key at the top reading: Books can be [[Novel]], [[Play]], [[Article]]? But, as I said, he did not respond.

Anyway, my degree is in engineering. I'm familiar with sed scripts. Do I have the authority to do my own global search/replace? If so, how?

Then you will no longer need to disambig the word Play because I'll kill the lookup on that column.

But at this point, I've got footnotes in that field and other subtleties around. It would be better for me to set up the pattern matches, since I know better where the trouble lies.

Cheers, Varlaam (talk) 18:23, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, if you just want to do a search-and-replace on the text of one page, you don't need anyone's permission. If you want to run a script across multiple pages, see WP:RFBA. Yeah, it's always mystified me why some people seem to think Manhattan might mean something different in one sentence than it did in the sentence immediately before, so they need to link both of them. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 19:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Russ. Well in that case I never happen to have run across the mechanics for setting up the search/replace. Could you point me in the right direction? Thanks, Dave (Varlaam (talk) 19:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC))

I'm not sure what you're looking for. You can just copy the text out of any wiki page, paste it into a file on your machine, do whatever you need to with it, and then paste the changed text back into the wiki page. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 19:32, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

So, if my favourite editor is vi, then people would be doing a :.s/abc/xyz/g in their vi session and copy back? I was assuming that there's a tool resident in Wikipedia for this sort of thing. Because I see not just RussBot but other retrofitters passing through my pages, where they're obviously responding to some auto-generated distress signal about an issue, and now, in my mind, they are triggering a tool which goes out and zaps problems. So that's not what's happening? Someone is tweaking my little booboos by hand each time? Dave

No, there are indeed plenty of bots. See the links at the top of the page I just linked to, including one on how to create a bot. Hope that helps. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 19:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Great. Because I assumed RussBot meant a bot triggered by Russ, not a tongue-in-cheek joke meaning Russ editing by hand.

Need a Reference

Russ,

There's a pretty heated debate going on right now between myself and User:Nyttend. He states that Virginia towns can span counties, whereas I say the cannot. With you also being a Virginia resident, I thought you might know of a reference that states that all VA towns are a part of one and only one county. If you do, could you please let me know about it? The debate is on Template talk:Fairfax County, Virginia. Thanks. --Tim Sabin (talk) 15:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Russ. I'm learning from you already! --Tim Sabin (talk) 17:21, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Cristero War

Russ, no one other than me and other people who spend a lot of time in Mexico care what the Cristero War is. That page was not about helping people to learn all about the Cristeros and their battles in Michoacan, Jalisco, and Colima.

The purpose of that page was to get people quickly to what everyone other than experts cares about:

World War I

World War II

It was better the way it was before, so I'm putting it back.

Dave

Well, I'm certainly not wedded to the way I left it; anything you can do to improve it would be welcome. However, please don't put back the {{disambig}} template, as it is not a disambiguation page. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Dyslexia and writng systems

Hi RUSS Unfortunately User:Gordonofcartoonthe originator of this RFC does not have a full graps of the facts and is in no position to explain how dyslexia is closely related to differetn writing systems, and would have appear to have called for an RFC to ignore the documented peer reviewed research that supports the Dyslexia projects claims. The professionals from the wring system articles are experts about the differences of the various writing system but have no idea about how different writing systsm can affect dyslexia as this would not be part of their normal research. However there are large areas of overlap and they need to read the research from the dyslexia side of the debate. So far this has not happened, it has all been done by others expressing their opinions a 2 to 1 vote in favour of the writing system camp pure because there was 2 of them and one of me. There was no discussion of the issues at all.

So that is the history all can be seen on the various discussion pages.

dolfrog (talk) 02:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Category:Bi-lateral schools in Kent

I left this category to assist with with catting Kent schools where selection remains. The Howard School,though now in Medway, was set up as an initiative of Kent County Council. The Cat is needed to help sort out the euphemisms used in Kent to perpetrate their defiant political act in 1968. See Bilateral schools for a list of other schools that may now qualify for inclusion. --ClemRutter (talk) 18:01, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Karl Diebitsch

Great work on the Karl Diebitsch page! Good thing I'd started looking at it on June 17 while researching SS uniforms for an upcoming museum exhibition, and realized the problematic nature of the content's coming from a single published source. Please take a look at the particular issues I've raised on the Talk page – I'd appreciate any input you might add that I might have missed. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 09:29, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: ACE2008 Template

I've deleted it. Thanks, I'd forgotten about that thing. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:11, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

That was a bit drastic of me alright. I will go back to a general note in future! Thanks again,  Cargoking  talk  19:23, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Template:Dance Dance Revolution games

Hey there, I was under the impression that if an article got moved the redirect to the talk page was always deleted. I've used {{Db}} on talk page redirects in the past and no one has ever said anything was wrong with that. Did a rule get changed?  ^{æronphonehome}  05:30, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not aware of any such rule, so I can't say it's ever been changed. All I know is what I read on WP:CSD, which doesn't say anything about deleting the redirects to talk pages. If you are aware of some other guideline that might apply, please let me know. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 08:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I've never bothered looking it up myself. But time after time when I see a page move an admin comes along and deletes the redirect to the talk page citing "talk page redirect" and whatever code they feel plausible to support it. I've never contested the practice I just know it's common.  ^{æronphonehome}  08:43, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Although it was not easy to find, I did discover a relevant discussion about this issue. It was inconclusive, but I take from it that deleting these redirects is potentially controversial and therefore should not fall within the G6 clause for "non-controversial housekeeping." Not that I am opposed to cleaning up talk page redirects when it is actually needed; I have started a project to do exactly that. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:43, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Cool, I'll take a look at that... I've been debating joining the redirect WikiProject.  ^{æronphonehome}  09:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Campora San Giovanni and link with other courtesyes

Hi, Your Bot has signalled errors on the page regarding my village native, kindly provvederesti to correct these errors, please always and however. Besides this I ask you if your personal bot could connect together all of my pages of use. Or the links, in attends him I wish you of true heart a beautiful day…. looking at the dawn of my village. enjoy!♥--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 04:19, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

danzig

Don't you think it is better to redirect? It gives people the choice rather than forcing them to one article, also the top results on google are not for the place, but for the band. If the most popular search results are for the band, why is wikipedia not reflecting that? 119.173.81.176 (talk) 17:14, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

No, personally I don't agree. The city in Poland is the "common" use of the word, both in the sense of "most frequent" and in the sense of "ordinary", and I think it is appropriately considered the primary topic of that word. (Google results merely illustrate popularity, nothing else.) However, it is not up to me. If there were a consensus among editors to change the redirect, that would be fine, but the reaction to your past edits clearly shows that no such consensus exists. Perhaps a wider discussion would lead to a different result, so I invite you to discuss the issue further. Also, if the redirect is to be changed, all the existing links in other articles to Danzig will need to be checked and the targets changed as appropriate (and there are over 600 of those). --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:23, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

The "common" use is not really for you or I to decide, that would depend on what your interests are, which I assume is exactly why there are disambiguation pages. I imagine if I ask on the Gdansk article then people will not want the change, if I ask on the band's article then change is more likely, seems like a waste of time to me. If there are 600 articles then that is a shame, but changing wikipedia for the better should not be avoided just because people are concerned about a few messed up redirects. I don't really understand the technology involved, but are there not some wikipedia tools that would speed up changing all of the links, if that was required? 119.173.81.176 (talk) 17:43, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Removed speedy deletion tag: Donald Schmitt

Hi R'n'B! I just wanted to inform you that I removed the speedy deletion tag you placed on Donald Schmitt- because: the article makes a credible claim of importance or significance. If you have any questions or comments, please do not hesitate to contact me. decltype (talk) 15:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of "Rape Tree"

Hi: Please explain the reason for the deletion of "Rape Tree." This may or may not be a real occurance. If it IS real, then it deserves inclusion. If it is not real, but the concept has been fabricated to incite controversy concerning illegal immigration, then I believe that it also warrants inclusion. Thank you. Jimaginator (talk) 03:06, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, first of all, the article I deleted was entitled Rape tree, not Rape Tree. Capitalization matters, and it is helpful to put brackets around article titles so that I can find whatever it is you are talking about.

Second, the article was nominated for deletion as an attack page. The entire article consisted of a single sentence with no citations, containing a definition of "rape tree" that sounded insulting to illegal immigrants, but with no factual context. If there is a real phenomenon or a real controversy about it, then an article that explains the context and significance of the subject with actual citations to reliable sources would most likely be suitable for inclusion. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 09:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Understood. Thanks! Jimaginator (talk) 17:10, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Category:749 natural disasters

You seem to be nominating a ton of categories that may have been emptied out of process. Are you emptying these or just nominating these? If they were emptied out of process, then they should be taken to a full CfD discussion since some of these out of process changes are disputed and some are restored. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:11, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

No, I'm just nominating them. How can you tell if they have been emptied out of process? Anyway, I have no objection if you want to change them to CFDs. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:16, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:CiterSquad

Up an running :) Jeepday (talk) 11:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Toolserveraccount

Hello R'n'B,
please send your real-name, your wikiname, your Freenode-nick (if you have one), your prefered login-name and the public part of your ssh-key to . We plan to create your account soon then. --DaB. 15:30, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Disambig page lists

Hey bud! I made some suggestions for bot-cleansing those lists of redirects to disambig pages - would you be able to do that? I promise, after I get past this damned Bar Exam (and the MPRE), I will learn some wiki-fu so I can do these things myself. Also, regarding the list of disambig links on disambig pages, could those lists be cleared of all the hits where the link on the page is "Foo (disambiguation)"? Those are obviously not errant links.

Finally, on a completely unrelated note, I've been trying to figure out a way to hunt down bits of errata that are floating around in non-article space. Would it be possible to generate a list of ALL pages that contain, say, five characters or less (since there can be no meaningful page with fewer than that amount). Cheers! bd2412 T 02:08, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I've just gotten approved for a Toolserver account (see below), so once I figure out my way around the databases (which might take some doing) I can probably generate all kinds of interesting reports. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:21, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Category:School articles by quality

Hi- I think we left this category as a redirect, so that there won't be red-links on Template:WikiProject Schools, because the project uses a non-standard category for their quality-assessed articles. --Funandtrvl (talk) 17:35, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. I suspect there's a way to fix that in the template, but it's beyond my expertise so I'm restoring the category. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:16, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Food for thought?

With this edit, (with which I do not disagree), you say: "appears to be primary topic, no reason given for change".
You are quite accurate in saying: "no reason given for change". Mea culpa. But that's not why I'm here.

For Australians, ASIC means "Australian Securities and Investments Commission"; being dumped at "Application-specific integrated circuit" is somewhat confusing. However, I quickly acknowledge that Australians comprise much less than 10% of the English speaking world.

On the other hand, being dumped at ASIC (disambiguation) is not confusing for anyone.

Hence, I wonder about the idea of using the "primary topic"; I have the suspicion that whatever you choose, you are always going to end up confusing someone. I would have thought that "confusing no-one" would be a better option than "confusing the minority", and hence a clarification/modification to the policy might me useful. Your thoughts? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 07:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

You raise an interesting point. After all, I did say it "appears" to be the primary topic, but I'm certainly open to arguments to the contrary. I am skeptical of naming something a "primary topic" based solely on statistics, as I've said at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation, and I think if there is a widespread use of an abbreviation for a particular purpose (in English) in one country, that would tend to suggest that some other use is not the primary topic, even if it is more common in other countries. (See also RBI and Reserve Bank of India). This specific problem seems most likely to occur with abbreviations and not with other types of disambig pages. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:01, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Your opinion seems to overlap mine, and yes, it is also my impression that "This specific problem seems most likely to occur with abbreviations and not with other types of disambig pages." I suppose the next question is: Should anything be done about the policy, and if so, what? Pdfpdf (talk) 15:58, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Speedy

Sorry, my translator wasn't picking any language up, so I could just assume they were random characters intended as nonsense. May I ask how you detected the language (or did Wikimedia automatically detect it)? ZooFari 15:43, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I think the technical term for it is "an educated guess." I don't know Greek but I've seen enough passages to recognize what it looks like, and Google translator confirmed that I was right. (It seems to be largely an article about the 17th Century Levellers movement in England, oddly enough.) --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Aubrey Dan

Hey R'n'B,

So I had reverted an edit to Aubrey Dan by the article's original author TheatreGuy2009 who had blanked the page [1]. I hadn't read the criteria for deletion page carefully before, but I believe it does fall under CSD G7. I'm new to Twinkle and reverting vandalism, so I apologize for my confusion :-). -- Mad Pierrot (talk) 22:06, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I declined it because, although that user was the original author, that user was not the only substantial contributor. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 22:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, good to know for the future. Thanks. --Mad Pierrot (talk) 22:34, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank You!

Just a note of thanks for your deletion of Shirley Temple/Archive 2.  ^{.`</sup>^) Paine Ellsworth<sup>diss`cuss} (^^`.  08:12, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Category you blanked the speedy deletion template on

If the category is just simply a blank page, why would we keep it? Impala2009 | Talk 15:53, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Because it has articles in it. A blank category page is not necessarily empty, unlike a blank article. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 16:47, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Commandos 2: Men of Courage

Do you know how to type in the cheats in this PS2 Game. Mr Hall of England (talk) 15:26, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

No. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 16:47, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletes: 18th century cricket stats

I notice you have dealt with those three speedy requests very speedily (groan!). Much appreciated. --Jack | ^{talk page} 16:20, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Art

Dear Sir:

I'm new in Wikipedia and I want to know how can I add the information about a very important NON PROFIT institution that is open to everybody arround the world. I'm trying to publish the information about this Foundation and you DELETE every time the post. IS NOT PUBLICITY, I only want to publish the information about them because I think they are making an important task making available the fundamental tools that help general public and users to access all the concernant and related with the art and general culture of our world and just want to make it reachable for everyone on the web, including the users of Wikipedia. Is just as you have published MOMA, Eli Broad, Joan March Foundation and many othrs that are about the same and this others are in your definitions with no problem at all.

Please help me to publish correctly the information regarding this wonderfull institution.

Thanks in advance and waiting for your response. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiartview (talk • contribs) 16:42, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

• I have a few suggestions. First, only create one article about this organization, not four or five or six. Second, take a look at this guide to writing an article. I think the part about gathering your references and providing reliable sources for the information on your articles will be particularly helpful, although all of the other points should also be useful to you. Also, when we say that you need to provide citations to other sources, we do not mean you should copy from other sources – you should write about the subject in your own words. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:12, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Templates Russbot tagged as Orphaned...

{{Commons needs your info}} and {{Commonsmaydelete}} are meant to be subst on user pages, that's why they've been identfied as orphan...

They were created in response to concerns that there wasn't feedback from Commons when issues arose with Images that came from Wikipedia to start with...

If you can help clean them up into proper notifications it would be appreciated. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 23:51, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Re:Redirect of Ceylon

Thanks for the tip Russ, I will initiate a discussion for the edit.--Blackknight12 (talk) 11:18, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of "Tamer Turkman"

Hi,

I have created a page for Tamer Turkman and then I decided to delete it. The deletion was successful. However, the name and the cached version keep showing up in Google searches. Is there a way to get rid of them as well? Thank you.

Sincerely,

kivo2004 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kivo2004 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

As far as I know, the only way to get rid of them is to wait for Google to update its cache, which may take about a week I think. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Category:Music videos

Hey, in re this discussion with GO'f, can you set up your bot to clear the articles so we can make the category functional? Thanks. Otto4711 (talk) 02:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

History of Australian cricket

Hi R'n'B - I note you did a speedy delete on History of Australian cricket as it had no meaningful content. The article had substantial content until it was reverted to an earlier state. Bearing that in mind, would you like to look again at the article. User:BlackJack has an issue with the article (and probably has some good reasons for wanting the article to be deleted) - however, it now needs wider consensus for deletion as there are wider implications impacting on other articles, such as Cricket in Australia. At the very least History of Australian cricket is a viable search-term and so would be a useful redirect. My suggestion is that the deletion is undone and the article restored to this version and that it is then put up for AFD to get a wider consensus as to what should be done. I will let User:BlackJack know. Regards SilkTork *^YES! 14:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

You make a good point. I should have reviewed the page history more carefully before deleting, and I have restored it as you requested. User:BlackJack should take his/her concerns to AFD. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:02, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

These things happen. We assume good faith. Thanks for restoring it. SilkTork *^YES! 15:11, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Off to take the bar examination; back on August 1.

I'll be back to work in a week. Cheers! bd2412 T 02:37, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Gloomy Candy

Thank you for not deleting Gloomy Candy I was having some coding problem so i had to reread the Tutorial a few times. I just have to ask you something I checked the history and it said the following : moved Ruby Gloom/Gloomy Candy to Gloomy Candy: Don't use subpages in article namespace: I don't understand what you mean in the bold

Black Rose (talk) 16:46, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

• According to the text you wrote, the title of this book is Gloomy Candy, so that should also be the title of the article. In Wikipedia titles, the "/" character sometimes is used to indicate a subpage; for example, Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents is a subpage of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. However, we do not use that style in article titles. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions for more detail. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 16:59, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh ok thank you for explaining I had the page as Ruby_Gloom/Gloomy_Candy cause Gloomy Candy is a Dōjinshi on Ruby Gloom so i thought it had to be apart of the page kinda..lol sorry about the whole thing.

Black Rose 11:18, 28 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackmagic1234 (talk • contribs)

Great Repeal Bill

Any particular reason for deleting my page on this draft law? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DCMP (talk • contribs) 15:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I did not delete any article. I deleted some redirects to a non-existent page. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Santorum disambig page move

Hi -- I saw you've moved the Santorum page to become the disambig; from your edit summary I can see you've read the relevant discussions. I think I'd have preferred it if you'd listed it at WP:RM, which says it's the place to list a page move if there's any possibility of a dispute, as there was in this case. Assuming that you don't want to revert yourself and list this at WP:RM, I am not sure where to list this for broader discussion. If you don't have a better suggestion, I think I'll list this at WP:RM myself for the reverse move, and it can be discussed there.

I see you were unconvinced by the arguments made. One key point for me is that the first AfD of Santorum (sexual neologism) resulted in the admin commenting that "The name "Santorum" will be redirected to the Senator, as I think consensus and common sense demand". I do think it would have been better to have discussed first, and moved after that discussion. Mike Christie (talk) 00:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I do think you should list this at WP:RM and invite a new discussion. Frankly, if there were no past history, I probably would have chosen to redirect the title to the ex-Senator as well, but given the past discussions as well as the more recent edit-warring I could not determine that there was any consensus about a primary topic. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 09:47, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, I posted a request. Mike Christie (talk) 23:01, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Image deletion

I previously held the user name User:Orangemonster2k1 before moving to this one. I kept track of the images that I had uploaded under the previous username and during some normal housekeeping (swampping images from GIF or JPG to the better PNG files), I just {{db-author}} the others. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 20:24, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah, that explains it. Thank you. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:26, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Sure, not a problem :) Have a Good Day. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 20:29, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Norvall Jerome Pickett

Hi there. I'm still trying to get a handle on what constitutes an acceptable "assertion of notability" for CSD purposes. I saw you declined my speedy on the linked article and am having trouble figuring out what this guy's claim to notability is. Can you shed some light? Thanks. — Bdb484 (talk) 23:53, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I reserve A7 deletions for subjects that have no chance of being a suitable topic for an encyclopedia article. In this case, there was a pretty substantial biography which suggested to me that this person might be notable at least within his church organization. That doesn't mean I'm convinced of it by any means, just that there might be some chance. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 00:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Norvall_Jerome_Pickett

This is the referrer's (User:Bdb484) second attempt to remove this article. Referrer deleted multiple references in article before this request was made. They have been replaced. There are numerous genealogy hits referring to the subject's officiating at funerals of noted persons in communities, even though most of the subject's career was before the internet. I can list these if needed. If I had ability to query newspaper articles from 1940 onwards there would be a much larger number of references.DavidPickett (talk) 04:11, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Ironic

Thanks for the removal of this term from Ian Anderson (musician). I hadn't noticed it or I'd have removed it myself. Irony has to be one of the most misused concepts on Wikipedia. My research shows that it's used in over 10,000 Wikipedia articles, which is about 100 times more frequently than in most encyclopedia... Yworo (talk) 19:06, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Harlem Riot of 1943

After you declined the speedy deletion on the grounds that it was not plagiarism. The same editor has tried another trick and slapped a copyvio warning on the page. Can you help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.127.245 (talk) 14:44, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Demographics of the Supreme Court of the United States FA-drive

Sorry for spamming you, but in light of the impending shift of the Demographics of the Supreme Court of the United States, I'd like to get this article up to FA status within the next few weeks, and ready for the front page by the time the Court starts its fall term. Any help or advice you can provide would be appreciated. Cheers! bd2412 T 01:20, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Wikify?

Hi RnB: Your RussBot left a "wikify" notice on the Nestoridae page (see here, but I'm a bit mystified as to why. It certainly appears to be well-linked already! Can you please let me know why it would have done so — and what else you'd expect to see wikified? And if it appears okay to you, perhaps you could remove the cleanup tag. Thanks, MeegsC | Talk 20:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Operator error, I imagine. Thanks for letting me know. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! :) MeegsC | Talk 21:02, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Image deletion

Did you forget to delete this one File:TaroYokoyamaWA2007.jpg or did you not do it because I did not tag it when you deleted this one File:Taroyokoyama.jpg? Cheers ww2censor (talk) 21:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I deleted File:Taroyokoyama.jpg because it was a duplicate of File:TaroYokoyamaWA2007.jpg, not because of the "Files for deletion" nomination. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:47, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

OK thanks. I will nominate it now. ww2censor (talk) 22:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Northaptonshire

Hi R'n'B/Archive 8! A Wikipedia:WikiProject Northamptonshire has now been created. If you wish to help out improving articles relating to anything in the county, please don't hesitate to go to the page and sign up! --Kudpung (talk) 12:59, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Bal537's Edits

User Bal537 is a vandal and indulging in vandalism on the table "Ethnic groups, Social groups and tribes of the Punjab"

Ramdasia (Weavers, Julatahas) are not Ravidasia (Chamars, Cobblers).

Bal537 has tried to present false information by making false edits in the tables.

He added a false reference to Light Infantry on Chamar section which has nothing to do with Chamars/COBBLERS/Ravidasias

I would request you to please safeguard information related to Ramdasia (Weavers, Julahas) from vandal Bal537. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravinder121 (talk • contribs) 11:31, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

hello- i dont know why i received a message about editing a post? About Agee or something? But I certainly have never edited anything on wikipedia. Is it possible that you mixed up locations? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.230.91 (talk) 23:31, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Request for deleting

Hi. You are an operator of RussBot, aren't you? Your bot found many football templates as orphaned (User:RussBot/Orphaned_templates/008). My question is, will all these templates be deleted? If yes - can you tell me when? I am trying to sweep some of this templates and I am rather experienced with this kind of templates, so I can confirm that these are unecessary. But except these, which your bot linked, there are much more templates which can be deleted after some alterations or modifications.

I am feel responsible for Fb templates on my home wiki and I can assure you that we can manage more effective with these templates (for example: we use only one template with #switch selector for each season whereas on your wiki there is almost hundred of it at the moment). With great pleasure I would introduce our modifications to your wiki but I need sysop help who can understand how templates work and who will delete all unecessary Fb templates to clean this area. Regards.--Verwolff (talk) 09:30, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

MRS Logística x América Latina Logística

hello R'n'B, Article about MRS Logística is incorrectly redirect to América Latina Logística, companies are different, see the article on (in Portuguese) (MRS Logística x América Latina Logística). No more ...Meloaraujo (talk) 20:29, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Instruction creep

On a talk page, you wrote, Please translate it first, then nominate it for deletion.

Somehow, I think translating an article just to show that it wasn't worth the trouble of translating does not constitute productive work by any standards. The {{notenglish}} template contains a link to Google Translate, whose usefulness to us is, precisely, to check whether what you asked for is worth the trouble.

You might want to take a look at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 35#Nonsense in foreign languages: situations where foreign-language articles meet speedy criteria other than A2 occur rather frequently, and consensus is that if a foreign-language article meets any speedy criterion, it should be deleted the same as if it were in English. Apart from the G1 criterion, foreign-language SD candidates will be apparent from the machine translation alone.

I think DGG had a better rationale for keeping the article for a while. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 01:10, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Monobook (disambiguation)

An article that you have been involved in editing, Monobook (disambiguation), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monobook (disambiguation). Thank you.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Cnilep (talk) 17:39, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Category:Bozen

Hi "RussBot" aka R'n'B, please stop your bot from changing the Category:Bozen to Category:Bolzano. The original name of this city is Bozen and has been so for many centuries. My pictures about Bozen (f. e. 2009-05-22.MussoliniReliefBozenPanorama.jpg and some others) also rightfully carry the Category:Siegesdenkmal Bozen (which is not changed by your bot).

If I offer photographs of my own for the Wikimedia Commons project, you can trust me to know the right categories for them and I don't need the help of an automated teacher.

I also suggest to have a Category:South Tyrol instead or parallel to Category:Province of South Tyrol, since there are many aspects to this country that do not relate to the existence of this province. For example, the history of South Tyrol is much much longer than the existence of the province.

--HaTe (talk) 19:25, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

• There is no Category:Bozen, so I'm not really sure what you are talking about. In any case, the bot does not decide what categories should be named; it just implements redirects that have been put there by users. If you want to have a category renamed, you need to follow the process described at WP:CFD. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 19:35, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Bot malfunction?

Hi, I think your bot made a bad edit here. J04n(talk page) 03:23, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Not misspelling

The administrative unit, myeon is spelled as myǒn in a Romanization which is sometimes spelled "myon" because of the diacritic is hard to type. --Caspian blue 12:42, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Even so, there's still no need for a disambiguation page with only two entries, as discussed here. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 12:46, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I just pointed out that the "misspelling" is a false assessment. However, the link is useful for future reference. Regards.--Caspian blue 12:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree. That's why I added a hatnote to the top of Myon, Doubs. By the way, if you decide to create any new disambig pages in the future, please check Special:Whatlinkshere first, and make sure that existing links that were intended for a particular article are pointed to the new title of that article. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:57, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

decline of page move mobile Internet device

You seem to misunderstand the intent. Mobile Internet device needs to be deleted so that Mobile internet device can properly have the capitalization of Internet. The article discusses mobile Internet devices in general not a single one or not devices used generally in internetworking. WP always capitalizes the Internet. Kbrose (talk) 19:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh, you're right, I got it backwards. Sorry. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Template:Zoroastrian calendar

I have reverted your edit on {{Zoroastrian Calendar}} as changing the link of Raman to Zoroastrianism is useless, and might as well be a red link. However, Raman is mentioned as a deity in the disambiguation page, and I am getting around to creating an article on Raman. Warrior4321 20:32, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

MyPath Page

Hello R'n'B- you deleted the MyPath page I had created and I am not sure why this is the case. It had been deleted previously as I was still in the process of editing it for neutrality, but I believe the version I made public met the neutrality requirements. Please advise.

Stiemgoinne (talk)

The only titles I can find in the deletion log that look anything like this are:

13:53, 24 August 2009 R'n'B (talk | contribs | block) deleted "User:Stiemgoinne/Mypath" ‎ (Redirect to a deleted or non-existent page (CSD G8)) (view/restore)

13:53, 24 August 2009 R'n'B (talk | contribs | block) deleted "User:Stiemgoinne/MyPath" ‎ (Redirect to a deleted or non-existent page (CSD G8)) (view/restore)

13:53, 24 August 2009 R'n'B (talk | contribs | block) deleted "User:Stiemgoinne/My path" ‎ (Redirect to a deleted or non-existent page (CSD G8)) (view/restore)

As indicated, I deleted these pages because they were redirects to an article that had already been deleted. Perhaps you might want to inquire of User:Orangemike, who deleted the page MyPath that these other pages were redirected to. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:34, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Russ, thank you for your response. You are correct that Orangemike had previously deleted the page indicating it was not neutral enough (thought for the record I was still working on the article). However, I re-created the page according to the neutrality guidelines and the page had been up for a couple of weeks when you deleted it. Only two of the pages you deleted were re-directs (Mypath and My path). The third page, MyPath, was the actual article. To my knowledge since the page had been recreated there was no problem and Orangemike had not deleted the page a second time. I checked my history and that is what I can determine. Any additional insight would be appreciated. It is frustrating to take the time to create an article according to the guideines only to find it has been deleted and you cannot understand why.

Stiemgoinne (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:02, 10 September 2009 (UTC).

I'm sorry, but you are mistaken. The following is the entire text of User:Stiemgoinne/MyPath at the time I deleted it:

“ {{Db-redirnone}}

#REDIRECT [[MyPath]] ”

And, looking at this page, it is clear that User:Orangemike deleted the MyPath article, which you had moved into the article namespace. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:11, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Deletion:SoumenRoy

Thanks Russ for deleting the page Soumen Roy which was inadvertently created. Unfortunately this page still appears when "Soumen Roy" is searched in wikipedia (and is cached in search engines like yahoo, google) etc. Could this page be totally done away with, so that it does not even appear when one searches for it. Thanks. --SoumenRoy 15:35, 9 September 2009 (Central Time)

As far as I know, it is not possible, but the old page will disappear out of all those caches sooner or later. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:42, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Db-move

Oh, is that why the redirect was still functioning and the template didn't show up? I thought they might have changed the template so the tagged redirect would still function. Normally I put it up top but I didn't realize it made a difference on a redirect (since it's not like putting it at the bottom of a five-page article where nobody would see it). Sorry about that -- I'll remember for the future. Propaniac (talk) 15:05, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Tim Grube

Why was "Tim Grube" deleted? He is a notable musician in the dance scene and I was maintaining his Wikipedia. Please reply. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Recordjes2 (talk • contribs) 17:54, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Why are you asking me? Click on the red link above and you will see that User:Nihiltres deleted the article, because it had been proposed for deletion and no objection had been raised after seven days. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:25, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

thank you

Thank you for catching my link of Talk:David H. Koch Theater to itself. — Robert Greer (talk) 12:59, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Greek article Δομές δεδομένων

The duplicate is on the Greek Wiki as a disambig. [2]. <>Multi-Xfer<> (talk) 17:39, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind looks like you got it. <>Multi-Xfer<> (talk) 17:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Template:Launchballer

I did not request deletion, everyone else hated it and I got pissed off of waiting (pardon my language)--Launchballer 20:00, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Category emptied out of process

Hi, Russ! Thanks for the note.

If you got a chance to look at my userpage, you've probably seen that proper process is something I am a big fan of. However, I am not a fan of process for the sake of process (wow, I've just noticed that Kotniski said exact same thing, word-to-word). If you look at the category in question closer, you will see that I was the person who created it in the first place and, apart from an IP adding an interwiki link and one other editor (more on that one below), I was the only person who ever edited it. Every single article in that category was placed there by me. The articles themselves are all written by me as well. I am pretty much the only person who works in this subject area on Wikipedia. And last but not least, the only other person who remotely showed an interest in this category, relegated handling of it to me. In my opinion, the situation was as straightforward and uncontroversial as a situation can possibly get. Judging from your CfD post, you yourself don't seem to disagree either, which, I guess, kind of leaves me puzzled as to the purpose of your post.

Don't get me wrong, though. You, as any other editor, have full rights to question any edit/action of mine. If my handling of the category out of process makes you feel uncomfortable (be it for certain reasons you have not yet divulged, your just for the peace of heart), I will gladly re-create and re-populate it and send it on its merry way through the proper CfD channels. I just want to let you know that a situation like this is not something you can't talk to me first before making an official inquiry elsewhere. I am usually pretty open to inquiries from fellow editors :) Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:19, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

It was, indeed, just for my peace of mind. I have, myself, been questioned by other editors after marking empty categories for deletion about whether they had been emptied out-of-process. Often, when a category is found to be empty, it is very difficult to determine how it came to be that way. Anyway, my reason for posting on the general discussion page in addition to my personal message to you was because I really was not so concerned about this particular case as about what to do more generally if I come across other cases. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:40, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

No harm no foul. I understand. Thanks for your vigilance, at any rate. Happy editing!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:58, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Births

Many thanks. Fixing. Rich Farmbrough, 10:05, 15 September 2009 (UTC).

Removal of PROD from Lamia (Vampire Folk lore)

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Protection request

Hi, could you perhaps also semi-protect Portal:Greece and Portal:Greece/Intro? The banned user with the 79.* sock IPs, SotosfromGreece (talk · contribs), shows no signs of giving up. He's basically been the only user to "edit" those pages for months. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I hesitate to do that unilaterally, as it could affect other editors. But feel free to raise it at WP:RFPP, as this is not an area I have much experience in. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:53, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Alexander Macdonell

Hi, Russ. Regarding the Macdonell snafu, please see [3], [4] to explain what must have happened. There are two different pages for two different bishops with the same name. Hopefully my hatnotes will help avoid any further confusion. Yours, Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 19:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Vandalizing ?? LOL...

The full name of that country is FYROM (Former yugoslavic republic of makedonia) according also to the UN. There is already a Makedonia region below that country and belongs to Greece!

FYROM is not "Makedonia". Great Alexander of the Ancient Makedonian kingdom had a GREEK ORIGIN, he was not some slavobulgarian mixed personality like the idiots of skopje. This has nothing to do with vandalism it has to do with historical truth. THE NAME MAKEDONIA BELONGS TO GREECE AND THERE IS ALREADY A BIG GREEK REGION WITH THAT NAME!

I am not going to stop and i am not going to give up if you want to block me go ahead. --79.166.56.136 (talk) 21:09, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

This topic has been the subject of an extensive Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Macedonia discussion which led to a consensus that all Wikipedia users are expected to respect. If you have not read that consensus, I strongly suggest you do so. If you have read it and are telling me that you intend to disregard it, then you are intentionally disrupting Wikipedia to make a point, and that will result in a block. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:17, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

pywikipedia

The trunk broke down after last nights change, we're now playing around with the rewrite branch in #pywikipedia. Care to join us? multichill (talk) 16:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Flag of Kosovo

That was a good idea; the entire focus on the article is on the RoK flag and I didn't want to be filled up with UN or Serbian stuff (like it was when I was overseas). User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 20:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lamia (Vampire Folk lore)

Hello! You seem like a reasonable fellow. Might you reconsider giving this one a chance, at least for the purpose of merging? I am in the process of rewriting it to be about more than just the one book per [5]. Please also note that they also appear in numerous published encyclopedias in the specific context of vampire folklore. Thanks for your time and consideration! Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 15:38, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not ignoring you, I've just been thinking about it. My original reasons for nominating the page are no longer valid. The problem is, I'm not familiar enough with the subject matter to offer an informed opinion at this point, although I must admit I am doubtful that there is any reason that this content needs to be in a separate article rather than being inserted into the appropriate places in other, existing articles. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Football templates

I am asking you again. Are you going to delete this orphaned files? Can you or any other sysop help me sweep some unecessary football templates. There is much more templates which aren't necessary and everything can be converted to one template with switch parameter.--Verwolff (talk) 13:46, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

I have no immediate plans to do anything with the pages on that list, but you or any other editor are welcome to add an appropriate deletion request (generally {{db-t3}} if the orphaned template can be replaced by another existing template, or {{subst:depd}} otherwise), and an admin will get rid of them in due course if there is no objection. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:00, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

User:RussBot/Orphaned templates/001

I don't know how often RussBot updates this list (from the history, it looks like it might have been a one-time run?), but I'm wondering if there's a way to put a notice on a page to opt out of being put there. Specifically, I noticed that it listed a lot of adminstats pages (such as Template:Adminstats/Rjanag which are not necessarily required to be transcluded anywhere (the fact that they're in the template namespace is just a consequence of their being subpages of Template:Adminstats. Their inclusion on this list resulted in one user doing a mass CSD tagging of them, some incorrectly. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 01:28, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't have any immediate plans to run a new report (although eventually I will have to as the list is already outdated), but I will take a look at this issue before doing so. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:10, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

A quick and dirty request for disambig redirects missing spaces

Greetings, amigo. In going through the lists of redirects to disambig pages, I've come across a lot of instances of "Foo(disambiguation)" (note the missing space) redirects to "Foo", or to "Foo (disambiguation)", or to, well, anything. Can you generate a list of redirects with said missing space? Let me know - cheers! bd2412 T 20:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean something like User:RussBot/Bad disambiguation redirects, perhaps?  :-) R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:42, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Very nice - thanks! bd2412 T 22:36, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

All done. What do you do with these reports when they're completely resolved? Delete, archive, or let sit? bd2412 T 20:16, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I think this one should be deleted. Some of them I just let sit, but I don't think this has any historical value. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:31, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree. I wonder if there are any other likely errors of this type we can scare up? bd2412 T 20:45, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Complex quadratic polynomial

Hi, You have changed links in above article from constant to coeeficient. IMHO here c is coefficient of function fc(z)=z*z+c but in parameter plane works like variable and z has a constant value z=0 (it is not a coefficient here). I think that this revision should be reversed. Can you check it ? Regards. --Adam majewski (talk) 07:39, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure you understand this subject better than I do, and you should be bold and fix it yourself. However, please note that constant is a disambiguation page. Instead of just reversing the edit, you should check the articles listed on the disambig page and change the link to use the topic that is most relevant in this context. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 09:59, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

OK. Do you think that Constant (programming) meaning would be good here ?--Adam majewski (talk) 08:44, 30 September 2009 (UTC)