User talk:Theroadislong/Archive 35
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20:21:52, 18 May 2018 review of submission by Benchik Pelmenchik
Howdo! I just wondered if you could recommend what would be needed to fix the Magni page you just looked at to demonstrate the notability? Magno is mentioned three times on the Würzburg Cathedral page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Würzburg_Cathedral and has a massive section on this external website: http://www.tessinerkuenstler-ineuropa.ch/ita/magni-gp-ita.html How could I better emphasise this on the Wiki article, do you reckon? Cheers, Ben Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 20:21, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 20:21, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia articles are no good for establishing notability. I've had a quick search and there really doesn't seem to be much written about him does there? Do you have access to Dettelbacher, Werner (1974). Franken - Kunst, Geschichte und Landschaft (German). Dumont Verlag. ISBN 3-7701-0746-2. this is used as a reference in the Würzburg Cathedral article. Theroadislong (talk) 20:37, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
- This may be of use [1] and you haven't mentioned his work on Würzburg Cathedral in the draft. Theroadislong (talk) 20:56, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Cheers, just been looking at all that. Here's a big fat academic monograph on the feller, by the way: http://frankenland.franconica.uni-wuerzburg.de/login/data/1999_34.pdf I should have kept it as a draft really, I suppose, and meant to come back to it to add a lot more stuff anyway. Magni is easily comparable to Francis Bernasconi, say, about whom we've had an article for ages. Going back to have a look at the draft again now... Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 21:11, 19 May 2018 (UTC) Was just working on it, when I saw "declined 3 seconds ago" up at the top - hold your horses! :D Maybe it's better now, would you say?Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 21:31, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- It was declined yesterday not today? Happy to accept now with the further sources, just re-submit. Theroadislong (talk) 22:57, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Good stuff, many thanks! Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 15:49, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Paid Editors
You wrote (in February): "Wikipedia cannot be used a reference. I am astonished that someone would actually pay you for this poor quality work". I am not. Clients who pay a Wikipedia editor are often just as ignorant as the paid editors. Btw, that flack has been reincarnated. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:42, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- I have forgotten to which draft article I was referring to here? Theroadislong (talk) 07:11, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- I will check. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:24, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- User:Theroadislong - It was Draft:Mubina Rattonsey. Catholic Christians don't believe in spiritual reincarnation, but I was of course referring to sockpuppetry. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:29, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- I will check. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:24, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
See Paid Editors on 12 May
I've answered up at Paid Editors. I realize that answers a week up on a talk page are sometimes not easily found. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:30, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Robert Stack-Non Profit Diretor
Hello- As I am new to Wiki submission. I would appreciate some guidance with my article on Robert Stack-non profit CEO. What would you suggest I add or subtract to secure a successful submission?
Thank you Erin Viereck erinviereck@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by ErinViereck (talk • contribs) 14:08, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Some advice about noteability
Hello, I had a couple questions about what you might think I should do. I am writing about someone that I am inspired by. He is really huge in my state and he is very notable. I don't know how to find the articles written on him though. I was hoping maybe you can provide some advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christianw2018 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
research in estonia
Dear, Theroadislong!
I uploaded my text about the initiative Research in Estonia, but it wasn't accepted. Could you please help me and tell me more specifically what should i do better?
Thank you in advance,
Reimo Rehkli Marketing Officer / Research in Estonia / Estonian Research Council reimo.rehkli@etag.ee www.etag.ee www.researchinestonia.eu — Preceding unsigned comment added by ResearchEstonia (talk • contribs) 10:21, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
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independent sources
Hi Theroadislong,
Can you please tell me what you meant by "no independent sources?", as I wish to further improve the article and resubmit it later.
The article in question is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Paul_Varghese#Article_Updated_and_Improved
Thank You & Kind Regards, DemonKing158 (talk) 12:33, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
- Writing an autobiography is probably the most difficult thing to do on Wikipedia and is STRONGLY discouraged. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, which summarises what independent sources have published about subjects and has essentially no interest in what anybody says or wants to say about themselves, on Wikipedia we need reliable sources independent of the subject. Theroadislong (talk) 14:57, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Soseipiriala Sunday Abere (talk) 08:07, 27 May 2018 (UTC) This is my first Article, I will read more and update it soon. Thanks for your feedback.
Great American Doll company
Hello there, Sorry to bother you. Thank you for reviewing my page. Can you please tell me which parts make it sound like an advertisement? If you could please edit those parts for me that would be great! I would really appreciate any sort of help you could give. Thank you. Uncoveringcelebrityhistory (talk) 15:47, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
I just edited the page including your ideas. Can you take a look at it again? Thanks Uncoveringcelebrityhistory (talk) 16:03, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Everester Anand Mali
--Malianand (talk) 16:25, 28 May 2018 (UTC)hey hii... i recently created a wiki page for Anand Mali ... he is a mountaineer and has scaled Everest also.. you have rejected saying that its self promotion ... there are many mountaineers who already have similar kind of pages ... eg: Ashish Mane... then why is my page declined... Please help me understand what can i do about it...
- My decline didn't mention "self promotion" ? It said "This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue." Your draft has no sources at all. Theroadislong (talk) 18:02, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
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Re Roger Michell potter edit
Hi, yes, I am Roger Michell's wife. I shall not use bias in any sense at all editing the wiki page about my husband. I am I think in the best position to record accuarate information about him and his work. My first edit was to remove the name of Roger Michell the director from the page as this page is not about Roger Michell the director it is about Roger Michell the potter. When I search for Roger Michell I get the director. If I want Roger Michell the potter I have to put Roger Michell the potter therefore can you explain please the purpose of including Roger Michell the director on this page? with all due respect, Juliamichell — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliamichell (talk • contribs) 21:40, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- It's normal to include a link to other people of the same name but not essential. Wikipedia has no interest in what you or I know, it is only interested in what reliable sources have published about him, all content must be backed up with independent sources. All good wishes. Theroadislong (talk) 21:50, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
Re Roger Michell potter edit
The second edit was linked to my book not because I am interested in advertising it but it is relevant to the fact of the Walking Ware and is the only definitive book on Walking Ware (written actually in collaboration with Roger himself) in existence and as such carries all the information that you need to know about Walking Ware and Roger's connection to it. Although this was and still is his most popularly selling work Roger must not be wholly defined by it as this would not be a true representation of him or his work or his life. Additionally, Danka Napiorkowska is an important part of the Walking Ware phenomenon but as he is not to be wholly defined by Walking Ware neither is he to be wholly defined by Danka or Lustre Pottery. As you can see I have altered the information not to disclude Danka but to qualify the origin of the designs. I had hoped to edit further concerning the origin of Lustre Pottery and hope that Wiki concern over bias will not apprehend the truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliamichell (talk • contribs) 22:01, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- There are quite a few formatting errors in the references now, I will try and sort them out later, but PLEASE note that Wikipedia is not concerned with the truth, it is only interested in reporting what people who have no connection with the subject have published about them, in reliable places. This is why when you have a conflict of interest you are encouraged not to edit the article yourself but to make suggestions on the talk page for others to implement. Theroadislong (talk) 08:32, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Gerhard Daum Music edition
Hello Theroadislong,
thanks for your proposal on the Gerhard Daum Music Edition and merging it with the Gerhard Daum site. I'd love to explain why I think that the two articles should be separate and maybe you do have advice for me, how to make them more separate. The Gerhard Daum site is on the composer, mainly focusing on his commissioned work, while the site of the Gerhard Daum Music Edition focuses on the works he has written or rewritten on his own account and that have been made public through the label and the music library, though many of these works have later been used in different media as well. So the difference being that one even though it works under his name is a label, while the other article is about the composer as an artist. Does that make sense to you? thanks again for your comments and looking forward to your reply. Kerstin Gehner (talk) 14:34, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Salt and Pepper page...
Hi... I went to Wiki page because someone was misinterpreting & quoting the info incorrectly on Facebook... I read the entire thing, saw the mention of the Museum & other club, and decided to try to put our group's website link there as well. My plan was to later go back and do some more editing of the body of the article, with added citations from the literature, as I learned how to edit (if it worked).
so why can Museum & other club be there, and not the AGSSSC? please let me know if you have received this? scott roland, GlimmerGlass Antiques, VP-AGSSSC GlimmerGlassAntiques (talk) 18:38, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- GlimmerGlassAntiques Adding links to your own website is considered spamming, I have removed the other links too. Theroadislong (talk) 18:58, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
This is not my own website... we an international collecting club, with hundreds of members, organized in 1983! We have information to share. I do intend on editing the page to correct the misleading statements on salt and pepper shakers... GlimmerGlassAntiques (talk) 19:05, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Anthony C. Bell draft
I used wikipedia references along with the NARAS (Grammy) page. Are these better sources?I will continue to look for interviews and such to add. Vanitaapplebum (talk) 21:13, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia cannot be used as a source I'm afraid, see reliable sources for help. Theroadislong (talk) 21:17, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for so much help concerning Roger Michell studio potter
Thank you for starting the article, I have no idea how to do this although I tried many years ago
I am learning as I go along, thank you, for bearing with me, I have no bias, just inexperience, I appreciate your pointers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliamichell (talk • contribs) 01:03, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Re Roger Michell potter edit
It is very interesting what you are saying, I am not sure I am afraid how to present my answer to the correct piece
About not the truth but what people can record
Interesting, thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliamichell (talk • contribs) 01:08, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Good Morning Theroadislong To continue with this page, they indicate problems with the copyright, but as you can verify it is of free use.
© 2017 World Gastronomy Institute. The texts of this website are under public domain CCO License and their reproduction is universally authorized.
The WGI is grateful that the source is cited.
What could I do more?
Thank you very much for your time
--Brosnier (talk) 09:52, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- It may be copyright free but it is entirely inappropriate in tone for aWikipedia article. Theroadislong (talk) 18:57, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Response to submission of article: Education Marketing
Dear User
This is in reference to the article "Education marketing" submitted for review. I have duly noted the suggestions given by you. I will make sure that the context is not in the form of an opinion, would re-structure the content like an encyclopedia flow and then re-submit for approval. Please do not delete the article.
Best, Engineer2018 (talk) 09:42, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)One of the obvious points, is that an encyclopedia article is NEVER written in second person. Another is that it is not meant to persuade; it is intended to dispassionately present information from impartial third parties. ==Orange Mike | Talk 11:32, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Article for David Eeles
The thing is, like windrush, it is quite difficult to establish notable references as you call them for this potter, I have applied to the crafts council and the crafts association archives on the matter, david eeles was a potter of note, he is mentioned in many books, I have started reference these, haven't I? He is deeply respected by potters who were more a part of the 'establishment' but because of his views was not a significant part of the establishment, let me tell you, he worked in the 17th century tradition, a potter who lived where he worked and the family were involved, this is a dying tradition, probably gone now, it needs to be recorded as such, my article is in its early stages and I have not sandboxed which I can see now is one of those mistakes that newbies make, can someone not help me please with this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliamichell (talk • contribs) 16:19, 5 June 2018 (UTC) julia michell — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliamichell (talk • contribs) 16:24, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- I have every sympathy for your plight, I am well aware of David Eeles, I am also a potter and have written at least twenty Wikipedia articles on fellow potters including Micheal Cardew, William Staite Murray, Colin Pearson (potter) and Walter Keeler (studio potter), take a look at them for an idea of the sort of sources required. The problem is that we only report on what reliable sources say about a subject, David Eeles's own website is a primary source so can't be used, other links you have used, are commercial links to buy books these are also no good. Wikipedia requires in depth coverage in independent sources,like newspaper articles, books and magazines. I will see what I can find. All good wishes. Theroadislong (talk) 16:30, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- I have added a coupe of reliable sources, please remember that every statement of fact in an article needs to be supported by a source which confirms it, other wise it is original research which is not allowed on Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 16:40, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
using a book as reference
Please could you advise me on how to use a book as a reference
Also, I am just not sure if I am understanding the signature protocol, if you could check this for me please or be a bit more explicit if I got it wrong I would be grateful, I have read the advice but still don't get it sorry (juliamichell 22:21, 5 June 2018 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliamichell (talk • contribs)
WildBullMiller
Why did you edit my sandbox talk page? My name is Tom Miller, who are you? WildBullMiller (talk) 08:52, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- You submitted your sandbox for review as a draft article, I declined it as it doesn't appear to be suitable as an article. Theroadislong (talk) 08:59, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
David Eeles, studio potter, referencing
Yes I see entirely what you mean about referencing and thank you if you can get hold of anything yourself. The Studio was of course the magazine of the arts and crafts so this is good no?
Then the Walking Ware book as you have agreed
There are a couple of other books he is mentioned in, I have cited 2 I think
There is a souvenir booklet from the Dartington Crafts convention thingy in 1977, I have asked Ilfracombe University who hold the crafts thingy archives now if they could email me a copy
So those other sources I shall need to take out, I have re submitted it already, what can I do please so it does not get rejected again?
I have also asked Simon Eeles if he has a list of exhibtions and and if David's work is in any permanent collections, it must be?
I am so sorry for not using the sandbox and going straight into the article I do hope you will all forgive me
Many thanks for your help so far
Also, I now get the signature thing so please ignore my previous request for clarification, thank you
(juliamichell 22:36, 5 June 2018 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliamichell (talk • contribs)
- What Wikipedia requires is in-depth coverage not passing mentions, the other possible sources are not suitable as they are primary sources. It would stand a better chance of being accepted if it was shorter and well referenced, we just need the plain dry facts, with no original research or opinions. Help with formatting book sources can be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Referencing_for_beginners#References_not_online Theroadislong (talk) 09:05, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Conflict of Interest
Can you please point out what part of my article is biased or classed as advertising?
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emily Perrons (talk • contribs) 10:14, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- Terms like these to start with...“upmarket British kitchen brand” “has achieved substantial growth” “ has established itself as a market leader” “ a large, modern factory in Glossop” “renowned for its contemporary approach” “offers a bespoke service allowing each client to achieve a unique design” “well invested with the latest CNC woodworking machinery.” and much much more.
Ultra-Accessible Page
Hi there! Thanks for your speedy review of my recent submission. Any suggestions on what to edit on the Ultra-Accessible submission that was rejected for reading more like an advertisement? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwl0410 (talk • contribs) 14:42, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Suggestions for my draft
Hi Theroadislong!
Thank you for your feedback. I was wondering if you have specific suggestions for my draft?
-Eddieeagle08 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddieeagle08 (talk • contribs) 20:43, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- The usual advice is to forget everything you know about the subject, collect as many independent sources as possible and report on what they say about the subject, we are not interested in what the school has to say about itself. Theroadislong (talk) 20:48, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
hell sir/ ma'am I had created a page related to a govt organisation, Government polytechnic college umaria. i am training and placemnt officer in that office. I am not able to submit references. kindly tell me how to submit reference so that i can successfully create the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yogace (talk • contribs) 06:25, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject if there are no sources then we cannot have an article, you also need to read WP:COI. Theroadislong (talk) 11:45, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the info
For the bio, is Nicholas Kaufmann's official website a good enough source? That's where the info comes from, anyway. Smacleod2 (talk) 14:36, 11 June 2018 (UTC)SMacleod2 No it isn' I'm afraid. We need independent sources not his own websites to establish notability. Articles on Wikipedia must be adequately supported by reliable sources so that information can be verified. We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources have to say about a subject. If there are no such sources then we cannot have an article. Theroadislong (talk) 14:45, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Request on 08:00:19, 12 June 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by LeoLee8612
- LeoLee8612 (talk · contribs)
LeoLee8612 (talk) 08:00, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Please can give more details on your rejection of my resubmission? In my resubmission, unnotable references are deleted. Please ponit out what is the eaxctly the issue? Thanks
- Not clear why the topic is notable, we require significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject. Theroadislong (talk) 08:08, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
B&R Rig Edits
Hello, I'm a new contributor to Wikipedia and I wanted to ask you about edits you made to the B&R Rig artlicle. Several of the edits were to remove external links from the body of the article. FromWikipedia:External_links
Besides those kinds of links listed in § Restrictions on linking, these external-link guidelines do not apply to citations to reliable sources within the body of the article. (Emphasis in original)
Given that the external links substantiate the assertions the article is making and are reliable sources, for example that the boat model incorporates the B&R Rig, aren't the links appropriate? Thanks, Sean
- The links would need to be formatted as references, though some of the content I removed links from were already sourced to a reference so they would be superfluous. Theroadislong (talk) 17:30, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Confusion on cite material - Myles Clohessy
Hello Theroadisong,
I am Antony A Ware and I am the person that drafted and submitted the article for Myles Clohessy several times. I've taken all of the critiques and have altered the page to the things that you are stating. Many of the articles and cites that I have listed more than fully focus on Myles. There are extra articles that also note his work, but the last comment you submitted stated that cites should not merely reference the subject. Again, many of the links point to areas that focus on Myles. I'm trying desperately to get this published and I'm not understanding why I am receiving so much apprehension. Is there anyway that you can help me with understanding which articles are not working? I can easily remove those and there would still be enough reference for the article submitted. If there is anything you can do to help me in this area, I would really appreciate it.
Thank you so much for taking the time to review all that I have submitted.
Antony A Ware aware5785 eternal@eternalismusic.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aware5785 (talk • contribs) 23:33, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- My last comment on your draft Draft:Myles Clohessy actually said "Wikipedia and IMDb are not reliable sources". Please don't accuse me of saying things I haven't said. You have not submitted it for review since. Theroadislong (talk) 08:04, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
Disruptive editing
Hi
Thanks for the advice. I've only just seen your messages. I believe the information I have added to these pages is a plain statement of fact. It does not include a call to action (which is inherently part of any promotion or advertising). There is, on other pages, similar information about galleries which house commercial works of art, so I am not sure how this differs. I am not connected to the gallery in question, either. I'm struggling to understand how this breaches Wikipedia's guidelines, but will certainly desist if that can be satisfactorily demonstrated to me.
I appreciate your contacting me, as I have no wish to undermine Wikipedia.
SteveWilde — Preceding unsigned comment added by SteveWilde (talk • contribs) 14:29, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Your only edits to Wikipedia are all connected to the Maddox Gallery, there might be a case for mentioning the gallery but only if it is supported by secondary independent sources, otherwise it just looks like spamming. Theroadislong (talk) 14:59, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Entire billion-pound advertising campaigns have been conducted without a "call to action" in them. They focus on name recognition or shaping consumers' feelings about something... which seem to be the theme of these edits. While there are no doubt other examples of these kinds of promotional "statements of fact" that haven't been noticed, that does not make these (or those) appropriate. Even in the unlikely event that a random person has taken a singular interest in adding information advantageous to a particular business to Wikipedia with no personal or professional motivation for it, those edits still need to hold up to scrutiny from other editors, and an onslaught of "some of this artist's work is for sale at ____"... does not. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 15:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Request on 16:21:15, 15 June 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Bstojanovski
- Bstojanovski (talk · contribs)
The blog used to be an official website of the group back in 2009 and we don't have anything else more "reliable" for you. Please just confirm the article to be published as there is a Macedonian version already published: https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Војводи_Тетово
Bstojanovski (talk) 16:21, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Duplicate WikiProject Biography banners on talk pages moved from draft space with WP:AFCH
Hello Theroadislong,
I noticed that when you added the wikiproject banners to Talk:Alan Lourens (see diff), the previous banners (marking it as a draft) were not removed. Is this intentional or a problem with WP:AFCH?
Thanks Wpgbrown talk | contribs 21:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Errr I have no idea! It certainly wasn't intentional. Theroadislong (talk) 23:34, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
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Editorial feedback
Hey there!! I just wanted to reach out and get feedback just as I can't quite see where edits are up to. I recently updated and resubmitted the page I have been working on - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:John_Steven_Novak Just went in to check the update / status and the last I can see is your signature with edits on the page..but I don't know if edits were made or you were letting me know what edits need to be made? If you could let me know what you need me to do as the next step that would be greatly appreciated just as I'm not sure what the next step is from here.. Thanks!! RebeccaRebecca J Mason (talk) 08:58, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- If you look at the article history (view history) you can see that I made a few copy edits, I removed some weird capitalisation and linking of common words etc. it has been commented by another user that it reads like a paid for advertisement. Theroadislong (talk) 09:16, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Recent amendments to the Mevagissey page
Thank you for your guidance on the ways to edit Wiki records. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Visitmevagissey (talk • contribs) 16:17, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
Help with NPOV
Hello! I could really use help figuring out how to get my draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Arise_music_festival approved. I have several reliable sources and I don't feel like it reads as an advertisement at all, but that is the feedback I have received after multiple edits and re-submissions. Is there any more specific information you can provide to help me get this article approved?
Thank you! Beccalyn137 (talk) 17:04, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- The tone is totally inappropriate for example "unleashed the annual Colorado-based festival that encourages its attendees to participate in activism, yoga, discussion, music, and community", "Drawing on experience from other festivals, the two promoters brought elements like healing and wisdom villages, a bonfire, art cars, performers and more to the camping and music festival". "A Shower Oasis is available onsite for a fee, there is a Star Bar Coffee Shop, food trucks, and other types of vendors set up around the festival.' this is all just promotional marketing puffery, the draft also includes a long list of past line ups which is not required.Do you have any connection to the festival by any chance? Theroadislong (talk) 17:57, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Ok, I see what you are saying, and yes I have attended the festival for the past four years and have referenced my very slight COI on my page. I will work on cleaning this up. I feel that a lot of the coverage on this festival includes similar language, so I am struggling to find sources with less promotional sounding language. Also, I looked at another music festival's entry for guidance and found this on Okeechobee, which seems to be quite inappropriate for Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okeechobee_Music_%26_Arts_Festival. What are your thoughts on that article? I appreciate your help! Beccalyn137 (talk) 20:31, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- I have cleaned that article up a bit thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 20:36, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you again. I am removing the promotional language in the ARISE article. Do I have to take out the past lineup lists for it to be accepted? Beccalyn137 (talk) 22:19, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Speedy deletion contested: Desjardins Insurance
Hello Theroadislong. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Desjardins Insurance, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: I added some references, and it is likely that notability can be established for a big insurance company like this one. Thank you. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:28, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Reviewed page
Hello, you recently reviewed a page that I wrote about an author/politician/businessman and declined to accept it into the Wikipedia database - I was wondering if there might be anything that I need to change/add to the article in order to get it published, as I do believe that this is a significant figure (especially in the world of organizational/behavioral academia, as is suggested by his contributions to the PMBOK). What can I do to get this article published in Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isaacdjacobson (talk • contribs) 20:56, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Your draft Draft:Tres Roeder has only two references neither of which even mention him, ALL content needs to be sourced. In order to demonstrate notability, you need to provide references to articles written about Tres Roeder in unrelated, independent journals, magazines, books, etc. Good luck. Theroadislong (talk) 21:01, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Speedy deletion contested: Sasi Institute of Technology & Engineering
Hello Theroadislong. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Sasi Institute of Technology & Engineering, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Educational institutions are not eligible under this criterion. See CSD A7. Thank you. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:30, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
The Sumaira Foundation for NMO
Hello,
I recently submitted the page "The Sumaira Foundation for NMO" and you denied it on the principle that it was not neutral, and the sources were produced by The Sumaira Foundation.
I am confused as to what sources were produced by the foundation, since none of the citations or hyperlinks were in any way affiliated in a non-neutral standpoint with the foundation. The articles linked simply talked about the foundation, but were not created by it.
I would really appreciate some feedback since this was a neutral page creation. Template:Aliaalchalbi (talk · contribs) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aliaalchalabi (talk • contribs) 17:43, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
- Aliaalchalabi I declined the draft because it reads more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia, do you have a conflict of interest by ay chance? Theroadislong (talk) 19:01, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
- Theroadislong My COI issue has been taken care of via my userpage. Thank you for your help in this situation. Aliaalchalabi (talk)
Request on 21:31:11, 23 June 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by LadyCharlotteC
Hi, you have declined my page on the fact that the sources are not clear? Im not entirely sure how they are not as the names of the sources are self explanatory. Please can you expand on what you mean.
These are all peerage pages and documentation on peerages including Parliaments own site.
Thank you,
Charlotte
LadyCharlotteC (talk) 21:31, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia requires better sourcing details than this, we need the title, publisher, page number and date. Theroadislong (talk) 21:36, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Lifi Publications notability tag
Hey
I noticed you put a tag for checking the general notability guideline. I have added more citations, authors and award to strengthen it.
Harsh7agl (talk) 05:02, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Hello Theroadislong,
You said : "Her father maybe notable but no evidence that savannah is yet?"
In fact she is notable, she is part of the musician group The Trishas and she is an actress in several movies and a current serie. She also has a facebook page, Instragam and twitter account and an Imdb page. There is also articles from notable newspapers that I linked with the draft.
Thanks to reconsider the draft.
Good day,
Mimine-xyz (talk) 14:58, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
- Having a Facebook page, Instagram Twitter account and an Imdb page has no bearing whatsoever on her notability the whole world has these? You need to establish notability by adding references that show there is widespread coverage of her in reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 15:00, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Compassionate727. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Dick Harris (center), and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.
—Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:27, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Guidance needed to Publish my article
Dear Theroadislong, Thank you for your valuable feedback while reviewing the page "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:RentSher". I need your guidance to get this page published in wikipedia. Please help me with this.
Murali2013 (talk) 08:00, 26 June 2018 (UTC)murali2013
- It cannot be accepted unless it reads like a neutral encyclopaedia article terms like "RentSher has some unique products for catering to all of the Life Events" "Though there are larger furniture and appliance rental companies like Furlenco and Rentomojo, no company focused on Short-Term requirements, from a few hours to few weeks." are just blatant advertising do you have a connection with the company by any chance? If so please read WP:COI. Theroadislong (talk) 08:29, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
you have recently reviewed my article and declined it. please tell me in detail what i have to edit in my article. Actually i want to create a page or article for my website roxstarindia. Please guide me in detail what i have to add and what i have to edit. And also tell me what reference i have to add in it, but i don't have any reference so please tell me the list of reference which i can add in the article. My Article is Draft:roxstarindia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikhiljain founder (talk • contribs) 08:54, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources have to say about a subject. If there are no such sources then we cannot have an article. Theroadislong (talk)
- (talk page stalker) Nikhiljain founder has spammed this identical message to the Teahouse, the Help desk, and here at Theroadislong's talkpage, all within a few minutes. Please don't do that, Nikhiljain. It's known as forum shopping or "asking the other parent", and it only annoys people. Please see all the replies you have received at the Help desk, and take them to heart. Wikipedia is not for promotion. Bishonen | talk 11:19, 26 June 2018 (UTC).
Speedy deletion declined: Marcus Campbell (artist)
Hello Theroadislong. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Marcus Campbell (artist), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: if multiple people think someone important enough to write a book about, there are significant enough to pass A7. Thank you. SoWhy 13:43, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry I'm not seeing any books written about him? There are two catalogues of his work. Theroadislong (talk) 13:47, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Bishop Srampickal
Why declined my page? That was about a bishop of Roman catholic church..
IS he not a notable person? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jainjoo (talk • contribs) 16:56, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- I have now accepted the article after the addition of further references, it was complicated by the fact you had reverted my edits. Theroadislong (talk) 17:10, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Margot Horspool draft article
Thank you for your kind comment about my draft article on Prof. M. Horspool. You are right about the lack of sources. The problem is that I have only the personal information given about her on her big book, and online by OUP. The other surce of information about her is the obituary of her husband in The Telegraph. The rest is just what I have heard as a postgrad student in London - like her being Dutch etc - not a very good source I am afraid. Maybe I should delete them? Thanks again. Grotius2018 (talk) 17:56, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
PRNCESRACHEL page
What is going on with PrncesRachel page why is still under drafts? Here are other legitimate sources
http://www.artistreachofficial.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:201:300:6AE1:8952:4CC1:9B27:C925 (talk) 18:46, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Nothing is "going on" the draft has no reliable sources at all and won't be accepted until it does. Amazon is also not a reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 18:51, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Request on 20:29:47, 26 June 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Desimo~enwiki
Thanks for reviewing my submission. I think you should reconsider as many would find this business notable.
https://www.gq.com/gallery/best-hat-stores
http://theheadwearassociation.org/levines-hat-company-voted-2018-retailer-of-the-year/
http://fox2now.com/2017/01/05/where-hitch-got-his-hat/
http://news.stlpublicradio.org/term/levine-hat-company#stream/0
Just a few first page results from a search
EVERYONE in the midwest knows about Levine Hat Co. - And many who wear hats in the whole country knows about them as well. They are as well known as Ted Drewes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Drewes and are well over 100 years old.
Thanks for your consideration
Desimo~enwiki (talk) 20:29, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- It would help if you added those sources as references instead of their own website. Theroadislong (talk) 20:33, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Fokoya Feedback
Hello! I am a new contributor to wikipedia and I appreciate your feedback on my Fokoya submission. I went back into the sandbox and added a couple of new sources and added a little bit more substance. Hope it gets published! Thanks!
Cheers!
Ckretch — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ckretch (talk • contribs) 10:19, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
refs Norbert Küpper
Hello and thanks for your support. Sorry, I am not really expierenced in writing articles for wikipedia. Regarding above topic you say the sources are raised by Küpper. I understand what you say! Beside that these sources tell the official work he is doing. For example an article which is published in The Guardian might be valid to prove the background of Küpper. Also an european congress which is visited by the top heads of newspapers in europe with a history of 20 years should be an indicator that this person is real and of public interest. Nethertheless I see your point. But it is hard to get other sources as Küpper is working with newspapers and of course is himself writing about newspapers and his work more than the newspapers about him. I wrote the same article in german wikipedia where these sources are accepted. Maybe you can help the get result even in english wiki. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mziegle (talk • contribs) 11:51, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources have to say about a subject. If there are no such sources then we cannot have an article. Theroadislong (talk) 12:04, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Request on 13:46:58, 28 June 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Tero111
Tero111 (talk) 13:46, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
RESPONSE from Tero111
There is an article on birds of Nebraska in Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_of_Nebraska
The external link goes to the NOU website, the organization my article was about. The state has a population of less than 2 million, but from an ornithological point of view is an interesting location between the East and West. The two links I provided improve the Wuikipedia reader's access to reliable information about the state. The effort is run by volunteers, so that the presence of birders and volunteers is never going to be the same level as "birds of Costa Rica" where endeless books and articles exist. However, the small effort here in Nebraska (I live here) is in no way insignificant. Yes, the average user is going to find my information with Google, but does Wikipedia want to push all the curious to go the Google route? Tero111 (talk) 13:46, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- In order to demonstrate notability, you need to provide multiple references to in-depth articles written about the Nebraska Ornithologists' Union in unrelated, independent journals, magazines, books or online. If there are no other sources then we can’t have an article. Theroadislong (talk) 13:51, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
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how can i submit article. my page might not have many sources but the facts are there and i hope you will accept it. i would love to write as much fact as i know or find on reliable sources. this is my first work, i will edit and improve it daily so if you could accept it, it would be a nice help for me to start on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhutan sports (talk • contribs) 16:06, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Clarification
Hello there,
I am new to using Wikipedia and am having trouble with posting an article about my client, a film, television and theatre actress.
I saw you left a comment stating that IMDb is not a reliable source of information. Any chance you could help me understand how one would cite original personal information such as her biography and filmography? Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance and I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.
(2020visions (talk) 17:14, 29 June 2018 (UTC))
- First you need to read WP:COI, Wikipedia is not a venue for promoting your client. IMDb is not a reliable source for establishing notability. We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources have to say about a subject. If there are no such sources then we cannot have an article. Theroadislong (talk) 17:24, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Many thanks. He's certainly worth an article and I don't think the author's seeking to promote him, just proud of his student's considerable achievements. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 21:26, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
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Please what I am actually looking for is to have a domain that I may be in a constant review of my works on it. With it seeing be in the websites and media alike for accurate sources and educating. Thank you Anthonia Ezemonye (talk) 22:15, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
publication: OCMQAH Monthly Diary Publishing Press.
Date: 1st July, 2018.
Bobby Gutkaiss
Hi there. I understand this was one event, but a little boy was murdered, his murder was potentially linked to another notorious child-killer, and his case remains unsolved. I'm trying to help ensure that his story doesn't disappear, plus he belongs on lists of other unsolved crimes. How can I get this story published? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeparatePowers76 (talk • contribs) 14:21, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Article on Christopher Barner-Kowollik
Dear Theroadislong,
Thank you for reviewing my article. I did my best to add the missing references for the article and I removed the blog entry you mentioned. It would be great if you could let me know if the references are now up to Wikipedia standards or if they need further improvement.
Thank you for your help! It's greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Staugingersdisciple (talk • contribs) 07:09, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. I appreciate your help. I hope I have succeeded in sorting out the references now. With regard to COI I should state that Ian Firth was one of my students in the 1970s but there is no COI. I have followed his career at a distance. We are still acquainted since we are both Fellows of the same professional organisation and have been honoured to be former Presidents but there is no other technical, commercial or business relationship. There is no question of remuneration or other type of reward. I have striven to make the biography of Firth objective and unbiased. Firth is, as you say, eminently notable as a structural engineer and bridge designer. We are both SME or domain experts in structural engineering due to our professional qualifications and experience.
Ian.Kirkland76 (talk) 15:21, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
refs Norbert Küpper
now including even more refs. valid? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mziegle (talk • contribs) 19:14, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
independing refs added. hopefully matched the criteria. Thx. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mziegle (talk • contribs) 20:01, 30 June 2018 (UTC)