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I didn't know my previous IP was block because I'm not behind a static IP address. I thought you were only questioning about Chipmunkdavis' comment. I didn't know I have effectively got around a block. I didn't mean it and please don't regard this as an intentional evasion. On the other hand, since you have taken a strong position towards moving comments, would you please take a look at Talk:Republic of China? There was only one single section for the votes. Users like Eraserhead1 later broke it down into three subsections, Support, Oppose, and Others. As a result the votes were moved around and the remarks that refer to earlier votes are broken. I have posted a note to request the closing admins to take this into consideration. Would you enforce the same standard to those users who moved the votes around? Thanks in advance. Meanwhile, may I know if it was a green light to HiLo48's foul languages and personal attacks? Will there be any action taken against such incivility? 202.189.98.134 (talk) 15:36, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Surreal...simply surreal. Intentional evasion...unintentional evasion; I don't see the distinction. You were told your actions were disruptive and, instead of altering your behavior, you continued. I cannot accept that you have the level of difficulty with the English language that you are exhibiting. There must be a different answer. Fortunately, I am not obsessed with discovering the answer. I'll have some lunch and watch some TV... Tiderolls 17:32, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

There have been quite a few disruptive IP addresses (many of whom are likely this one person) at the ROC talk page over the last several months I've been watching it (and probably longer), and many of them have been blocked. This person seems intimately familiar with Wikipedia policies and practices, and has been frustrating the many good faith editors on that talk page (HiLo is the one who usually verbalizes this frustration..). Due to the relative ease of obtaining a new IP address, blocking has no effect; so Wikipedia appears to be powerless to stop the disruption.. sigh. Mlm42 (talk) 18:24, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

It's my understanding that courtesy of this particular editor, a soft range block has been put in place for almost all of the university's 202.189.98 range. Wikipedia is perhaps not entirely powerless to stop the disruption, though it's a shame that this editor's crusade will now affect every other student at the university unless they register an account. It's plainly clear that he knows what he's doing and that he knows what he's doing is wrong. – NULL ‹talk›
‹edits› 11:27, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

"Fortunately, I am not obsessed with discovering the answer. I'll have some lunch and watch some TV..." I don't know if that's not fulfilling the responsibilities as an administrator or abusing of administrator's powers. Anyhow, for your information, I had already clarified with Chipmunkdavis regarding the restored comment that you questioned. Thanks. Jeffrey (202.189.98.132) (talk) 11:44, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

When you make up your mind whether I'm not fulfilling my responsibilities or abusing my "powers", get back to me. Tiderolls 13:41, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

The power to watch television is a precious power indeed! CMD (talk) 13:45, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Douglas County

I did not edit the Douglas County section on this date: 01:16, 21 October 2011. I have not made any edits to the Douglas County, Oregon page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.22.21.78 (talk) 20:36, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

That's one of the upsides to account registration...excepting mistakes, you don't receive messages that are meant for someone else. Tiderolls 23:37, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Virtuous circle and vicious circle

Could you please help add references to this article? It is sorely lacking in citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benjamin9832 (talk • contribs) 08:02, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

The Dark Knight Rises

Rather than get into it with him again, DavisJune has returned and is continuing the pro-American propaganda experience featuring Moe. Considering his comment to similar user Saccyind here, I believe talk will still not sway him from this path so I thought it easier to bring it to your attention first, since you have knowledge of the goings on.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:50, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Then he added this to my talk page. I'm not quite sure where I attacked him. http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Darkwarriorblake&diff=cur Darkwarriorblake (talk) 00:17, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

It would appear that the situation was resolved by others, at least for the short term. I appreciate the confidence shown in bringing this here but it was probably for the best that others became involved. This way DavisJune may be convinced that their position needs a re-thinking. Thanks for taking the time to keep me in the loop. See ya 'round Tiderolls 12:58, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the input TideRolls. Considering some of the comical abuse he was throwing at administrators though, I don't think he will be changing his tune any time soon. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 00:03, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	You have done good sir EPICTACO1298 (talk) 20:48, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Tide rolls. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback.
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ÐℬigXЯaɣ 22:20, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Re: Reviewer Permission

Dear Tide rolls;

I have a rather strange request for you I really can not get answered out in the open. A while back I was a well respected editor of the en-Wikipedia, when my account was compromised and was used over time to tarnish the quality of the project and generally be seen as a sleeper vandal. During that time, I had earned the privilege of the role "Reviewer". Some years later, I am coming back and once again desire to be nothing but a positive contributor. I am active in the RecentPages vandal fighting. However, I see the proposal at WP:Reviewer failed and nobody is being considered to be granted upon the title. I was wondering, if you would not mind, since

• a) No actual permission is granted with the flag, and

• b) The practice is no longer regulated,

if, for sentiments sake, you could please reinstate me as a reviewer. I have heard all about why this is not necessary, but if you could please consider it for my sake, I would be greatly and forever appreciative. Thank you for your time.

Best Regards; —An Illusive Man— ^(Contact) 00:15, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi, AIM. I am hesitant to change user rights that have no utility. This is no comment on you or your contributions, but until Pending Changes is reconsidered reviewer flags are of no use. Regards Tiderolls 05:11, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Fyi

I don't have time (or energy) right now to hunt down and provide all the links, but I suggest you find (or I can provide tomorrow) the various discussions regarding problems with Xanderliptak, to give you a greater understanding of the issues involved. → ROUX ₪ 07:53, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't expect the request to go anywhere. If there should be any need, I will gather the info. I'm central time US, it's gonna be about 12 hours before I can devote any time. I'm sure there are plenty of folks that are inflormed on the subject. Regards Tiderolls 10:09, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

report vandalism

this individual csabi911 as known as csaba zvekan has been now reported several times to the legal departement of wikipedia. promoting unauthorized release and unfactual infos. thanks to report him as well. futher legal actions are being made as we speak via copyrights companies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.26.144.223 (talk) 13:14, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Tide rolls. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback.
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Calabe1992 20:29, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Tide rolls. You have new messages at Jasper Deng's talk page.
Message added 02:09, 27 March 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I've proposed that the master be community banned, so the rollback button has more effect Jasper Deng (talk) 02:09, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

IT'S A SHAME

IT'S A SHAME THAT YOU ARE AN AMERICAN AND YOU ARE OBJECTING the dark knight rises AS AN AMERICAN FILM BOTH THE PRODUCERS WARNER BROTHERS AND LEGENDARY FILMS ARE AMERICAN 100 % AMERICAN THEN HOW COME A FILM PRODUCED BY THEM IS NOT AMERICAN AND YOU ARE MISUING YOUR POWER TO BAN ME,BAN ME AND THEN GOD WILL BAN YOU FOR MISUSING YOUR POWER YOU ARE A ADMINISTRATOR NOT THE CHAIRMAN OF WIKIPEDIA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saccyind (talk • contribs) 07:06, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

I honestly have no opinion on the matter; my concern is with your disregard for consensus. Have you read WP:Consensus? Tiderolls 09:43, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm really upset right now

Hello, I really need your help. I am angry with User:Acps110 for leaving me a rude message. I am no going out of my way to vandalize any New York City Subway articles as well as Wikipedia. B service does operate during weekdays but it doesn't operate full time like most of the other trains. C train operates during the daytime hours only and the Z train operates during rush hours, peak direction on weekdays. I guess I made some mistakes, I was trying to work on a way to see if some other trains do not operate full time like the B train before being rudely insulted by that stubborn unhelpful user Acps110 who accuses me of making everything up whatever edits I made to the articles. And I told him that just because you don't agree with someone and think they're up to no good does not make me a vandalizes. This is the second time that user Acps makes degrading remarks on me just for trying to help improve the articles! I understand that I made a mistake and I should have look through first, but I am no always wrong and I am not trying to do any damage to Wikipedia as Acps is accusing me for. 68.194.58.106 (talk) 20:56, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

(sorry for interjecting here) I'm not sure you are in a position to complain about rude messages when you leave ones like these for the person you are complaining about. You both need to calm it down. QU ^TalkQu 21:43, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

• Hello, 68.194.58.106 (I really detest addressing people as numbers, please consider creating an account). The post that User:QuiteUnusual refers to is quite unacceptable. I understand frustration can lead one to act out of character, but if you expect to continue to edit here you will have find another way to handle these situations. I will not be injecting myself into the content disputes that are the basis of the friction between you and User:Acps110. I will try to help by explaining how dispute resolution is conducted here. The first stage is article talk page discussion. I know you are aware of this as you have shown a willingness to engage on article talk pages. If talk page participation does not address issues with article content or the good faith editing of a particular editor, the next step is to bring other editors into the discussion. There are a few different ways to accomplish this and I can direct you to them if you are interested. Regards Tiderolls 22:55, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

I followed a trail and found this message. Just FYI, the person behind that IP has been making edits like that for a couple of years now, and after reading a message from another editor on my talk today, I blocked the IP for evasion. I've got details, if you're interested, but I figured a quick note was in order. Cheers ​—DoRD (talk)​ 00:05, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Chairman of the Board

	Chairman of Wikipedia award
	It is widely known that Tide rolls does in fact hold the position of Chairman of Wikipedia , and will hold the position until the Second Coming of Frank Sinatra. kelapstick(bainuu) 00:23, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

AHHH HAHAHAHA...I phreaking love this! This should make the professor green with envy :) Tiderolls 00:31, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit

What did I do that was un-constructive? Is it because I didn't give a citation? If that is the case, I can add a citation. Thanks. Rasppeachberry (talk) 00:06, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

FYI

Saccyind (talk · contribs) appears to have ignored your warning & gone right back to trolling over film nationalities. He's also ignoring the note I left him re: WP:OVERLINK. --IllaZilla (talk) 16:37, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Just a heads-up. Same user. Same issues. Blake Burba (talk) 00:34, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey's off his block & right back to the same behavior. See his contribs for today. --IllaZilla (talk) 16:56, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Just a note, its April 6, and Saccyind is still doing it, he has made changes to a handful of articles, they've been undone, and he's put them back. He has absolutely no interest at all in observing guidelines or consensus. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 10:28, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Unblocking user

Hi TR, I'm unblocking User:Mwilli56 based on the appeal request here - it seems more of a WP:BITE than anything else. As far as I can tell the user was just trying to create a page. Whether or not it's a page meeting notability criteria is a separate issue, but I don't think there was any intent for harm here, so I'm going to refer him to WP:AFC instead. Are you OK with this? --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 01:29, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Shirik. I long ago learned to trust you, so I'm ok with any action you want to take. I disagree with your analysis but if you want to spend the time on this individual I won't present any obstacles. Good luck Tiderolls 01:37, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Understading about Oil 4 Wales

Hi TR I just came to say that their was a User that keep on undeleting that Oil 4 Wales tag, so the information that user had been put on he's not a strong editor and try his best to edit. He spend all his time editing articles but that Oil 4 Wales link was acually true Information please take a good look at this website.

Here's the Link: http://www.oiltanksupplies.co.uk/oil-tank-supplies-delivers-oil-4-wales-depot-storage-facilities/

Yours Faithfully

User:Quinser's —Preceding undated comment added 19:40, 1 April 2012 (UTC).

Apologies, but I do not understand your message. Tiderolls 19:42, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Oil 4 Wales Article Reminder

All right I execpt your apologies just to remind you that can you remind all users on Wikipedia about not Deleting that Oil 4 Wales article is true information and make sure that you put that link on their useurs account because other user's are warning me that im gonna be blocked.

User:Quinser's —Preceding undated comment added 20:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC).

WikiProject Immunology

I see you have edited some of the pages within the scope of immunology. Please have a look at the proposal for a WikiProject Immunology WP:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Immunology and give your opinion (support or oppose). Thank you for your attention. Kinkreet^{~♥moshi moshi♥~} 09:31, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Newton (platform)

In response to this edit: "Beat up Martin" ~ "Eat up Martha". The sexual reference is the joke. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=eat%20out

75.108.195.107 (talk) 03:44, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

National Movement for the Liberation of Azawad

I have redone the edit which you reverted using Huggle. If you truly think that the translation provided by the MNLA itself is wrong, please provide references for the alternative name. Thank you. 75.154.107.74 (talk) 22:05, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Saw the edit to my talk page after I posted this. Sorry for the trouble. 75.154.107.74 (talk) 22:05, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

No trouble, but you may want to check the article history as I reverted myself before you got there. You may have reverted to the "wrong" version. I'd also appreciate a bit of good faith in appraising my contributions. Of course you're not obliged to do so, but I did revert my edit and I did strike the message on your user talk. Regards Tiderolls 22:08, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm going to look back through there. I apologize if I was hasty in judging your edits. 75.154.107.74 (talk) 22:11, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for that consideration. See ya 'round Tiderolls 22:13, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

German language alphabet eszett

Why are YOU changing MY edit?

I have previously read MS and NC regarding referenced and no consensus had been arrived at, nor any decision made, although i detected a definite trend in articles showed preference for "ss" just from browsing. That is as should be since eszett is not part of ENGLISH ALPHABET, and literally 99.9% of all English speakers have no idea that it represents untranliterated "ss".

I really doubt MS and NC now sanction eszett over "ss" but if they do you are the knowledgable editor and it would be easier for you to copy and paste citaion for you case than for me to plow through them (again).

You know who Gauss was, right? Hess? Several Strausses, and the list goes on and on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.35.96.144 (talk) 23:34, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

See WP:UEIA "When the native name is written in a non-Latin alphabet this representation should be included along with Latin alphabet transliteration." Tiderolls 23:43, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

"Should be", not "must be" and in any case apply only to article the introductory sentence but every other use should be "ss" as per article on the mathematitian Gauss. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.35.96.144 (talk) 23:57, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

That's one interpretation. However, the Gauss comparison doesn't really apply as the eszett is not used in the article title. If you are in favor of an article move, there are processes in place to accommodate you. Tiderolls 00:02, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

The Gauss comparison does apply. Eszett should never be used in article titles because almost no English speakers would have any idea what the transliteration is. It should be used, as in the Gauss and numerous other analagous articles, only parenthetically in the in the introductory sentence. There is no need to it elswhere in an English encyclopedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.35.96.144 (talk) 00:46, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Thus my directing you to the MOS and Naming conventions. A consensus has been reached regarding this issue that does not match your opinion. Consensus is a dynamic entity and you are welcome to approach other editors at those venues with your view. However, unilaterally making the changes you have been against the accepted guidelines and convention could be construed as disruptive. I would suggest more discussion on your part and re-reading the guidelines; there is apparently some misunderstanding on your part. Tiderolls 00:54, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

YOU STOP

YOU AGAIN BULLYING WITH THREAT TO BLOCK [readcted] EVERY PERSON BORN IN INDIA IS AN INDIAN CITIZEN SO THAT MAKES M NIGHT SHYAMALAMN A 100% GENUINE INDIAN-AMERICAN — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saccyind (talk • contribs) 11:52, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying that you are not going to achieve your goal working outside the framework of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Tiderolls 12:22, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Pardon me for butting in, but how long are responses like the one above going to be tolerated? I realize you're assuming good faith on Saccyind's part, but I think it's been stretched far enough when his only responses are constant reverts and all-caps profanity. --IllaZilla (talk) 15:07, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Not at all, IllaZilla, you make a valid point. It's not my aim to block users, it's my aim to help build an encyclopedia. If someone is frustrated and vents here, I try to remain tolerant. There are limits, of course, and I will redact the comment so that Saccyind doesn't get blocked by another admin that might happen upon my page. If Saccyind continues their present course the inevitable will occur; whether I am the admin that acts or if another admin should act is not important. Thanks for your patience in the matter to this point. Tiderolls 15:39, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Lone Wolf and Cub

I'm sorry to bother you, but I thought I should let an administrator know about this. On the Lone Wolf and Cub page, I can't make sense of what IP address 72.185.61.209 is trying to say.[1] and it seems that user has gotten a few warinings on other pages.[2][3]-99.168.75.244 (talk) 03:48, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

No bother at all. The specific edit you reference looks strange to me but nothing that appears to require administrator attention. That edit is one that may be addressed with everyday editorial action; that is to say examination through the lens of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. I would encourage you to contact the editor and make any inquiries you deem necessary. Your reversion is completely acceptable. I would suggest that in future you employ an edit summary to let any editors coming along afterwards what motivated your edit. Please feel free to ask for further clarification or explanation that you may require. Thanks for your polite message Tiderolls 04:21, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Black and Yellow

You have the wrong person - I don't even know what Black and Yellow is, other than two colors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.133.71.198 (talk) 07:05, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

One of the advantages of registering an account here is that you do not receive messages meant for someone else. Tiderolls 10:07, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

What?

You didn't like my edit? :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.142.47.131 (talk) 01:14, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Nice catch on the Penne pasta article. You're faster than me :)

The DarkArcher was here (talk) 02:04, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the recognition and the help on recent changes. See ya 'round Tiderolls 02:09, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Tide rolls. You have new messages at Jayjg's talk page.
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Jayjg ^(talk) 00:50, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Visual arts

Hello. Plastic Arts is subcategory of visual arts. If you prefer to keep the subcategory and hidden text. No problem. --Allforrous (talk) 04:28, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Apple Valley, California

Thanks for stepping in the other day on this Furmage guy inserting his name. Just FYI, an IP editor has now joined the fray. User talk:71.83.85.47 is making the same edits. Thanks for any help you can give. Regards, --Manway 05:16, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

He also hit Freestyle BMX with the same unsourced info. --Manway 05:21, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

I found his previous username. I have opened a SPI at WP:Sockpuppet investigations/William furmage. I would appreciate your comments. Thank you again. --Manway 08:11, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Pakistan has more troops than Turkey

The proof given about Turkey's troops is highly inaccurate, it is just stated in a random news paper. Pakistan recently deployed more troops near the Afghan-Pak and Indian-Pak border, as well as the Chinese border. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.160.34 (talk) 00:07, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello.

The proof given about Turkey's troops is highly inaccurate, it is just stated in a random news paper stated by a non-military organization. Pakistan recently deployed more troops near the Afghan-Pak and Indian-Pak border, as well as the Chinese border. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.160.34 (talk) 00:17, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

My revert was based on your changing "capita" to "capitap". Given that, your edit was unconstructive as mentioned in the templated message on your user talk. I have no opinion on your content changes. Tiderolls 01:51, 26 April 2012 (UTC)