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== Candidate colors ==

With just under a month to go until voting begins, it is probably a suitable time to start discussing color choices for each candidate to be used in maps of election results. Now that several non-viable candidates have already dropped out, I think we have a rather good idea of how the final field will look like in a few weeks' time.

The color hexes chosen for the top four candidates are derived from their official campaign material, except for Bernie's green which is carried over from 2016. The colors for Biden and Warren would also match the logic of assigning colors based on ideology suggested in [[Talk:2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries/Archive 3#Colors of the 2020 Democratic nominees should be as followed|two]] [[Talk:2020 Iowa Democratic caucuses#Candidate Colors|previous]] threads (if it were to be considered at all):

{{legend|#224192|'''Biden''' <small>([https://joebiden.com/wp-content/themes/bexc/img/logo.svg official campaign color])</small>}}
{{legend|#f2ba42|'''Buttigieg''' <small>([https://design.peteforamerica.com/colors official campaign color])</small>}}
{{legend|#228b22|'''Sanders''' <small>(same as 2016)</small>}}
{{legend|#b61b28|'''Warren''' <small>([https://elizabethwarren.com/ official campaign color])</small>}}

({{legend0|#b7e4cf|[https://yello.substack.com/p/with-liberty-green-elizabeth-warren "Liberty green"]}} could be an alternative color for Warren as it's also extensively used by her campaign, but it doesn't contrast well with Bernie's green, especially in vote margin maps.)

{| class="wikitable sortable" style=text-align:center
|-
! colspan="2" | Name
! Born
! Most recent position
! Home state
! Campaign<br>{{small|Announcement date}}
! Total pledged delegates
! Contests won
|-
| {{hs|Biden}}[[File:Joe Biden (48554137807) (cropped).jpg|160x160px]]<br>'''[[Joe Biden]]'''
| style="background:#224192;" |
| {{dts|1942|11|20}}<br>(age {{age nts|1942|11|20}})<br>[[Scranton, Pennsylvania]]
| '''[[Vice President of the United States]]'''<br>(2009–2017)
| {{hs|DE}}[[File:Flag of Delaware.svg|90x90px]]<br>[[Delaware]]
| {{hs|2019-04-25}}[[File:Joe Biden 2020 presidential campaign logo.svg|frameless|120x120px]]<br><small>([[Joe Biden 2020 presidential campaign|Campaign]] • [[Political positions of Joe Biden|Positions]])</small>
----{{small|'''Campaign: {{dts|2019|4|25}}'''<br>[http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/876/201904259149600876/201904259149600876.pdf FEC filing]}}
| style="font-size:90%; padding:10px;" | 0 / 3979 ({{percentage|0|3979|0}})
| '''0'''
|-
| {{hs|Buttigieg}}[[File:Pete Buttigieg by Gage Skidmore.jpg|160x160px]]<br>'''[[Pete Buttigieg]]'''
| style="background:#f2ba42;" |
| {{dts|1982|1|19}}<br>(age {{age nts|1982|1|19}})<br>[[South Bend, Indiana]]
| '''[[List of mayors of South Bend, Indiana|Mayor]] of [[South Bend, Indiana|South Bend]], [[Indiana]]'''<br>(2012–2020)
| {{hs|IN}}[[File:Flag of Indiana.svg|90x90px]]<br>[[Indiana]]
| {{hs|2019-04-14}}[[File:Pete for America logo (Strato Blue).svg|frameless|120x120px]]<br><small>([[Pete Buttigieg 2020 presidential campaign|Campaign]] • [[Political positions of Pete Buttigieg|Positions]])</small>
----{{small|Exploratory committee:<br>{{dts|2019|1|23}}<br>'''Campaign: {{dts|2019|4|14}}'''<br>[http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/815/201904139146113815/201904139146113815.pdf FEC filing]}}
| style="font-size:90%; padding:10px;" | 0 / 3979 ({{percentage|0|3979|0}})
| '''0'''
|-
| {{hs|Sanders}}[[File:Bernie Sanders July 2019 (cropped).jpg|160x160px]]<br>'''[[Bernie Sanders]]'''
| style="background:#228b22;" |
| {{dts|1941|9|8}}<br>(age {{age nts|1941|9|8}})<br>[[Brooklyn|Brooklyn, New York]]
| '''[[United States Senate|U.S. senator]] from [[Vermont]]'''<br>(2007–present)
| {{hs|VT}}[[File:Flag of Vermont.svg|90x90px]]<br>[[Vermont]]
| {{hs|2019-02-19}}[[File:Bernie Sanders 2020 logo.svg|frameless|120x120px]]<br><small>([[Bernie Sanders 2020 presidential campaign|Campaign]] • [[Political positions of Bernie Sanders|Positions]])</small>
----{{small|'''Campaign: {{dts|2019|2|19}}'''<br>[http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/558/201902199145527558/201902199145527558.pdf FEC filing]}}
| style="font-size:90%; padding:10px;" | 0 / 3979 ({{percentage|0|3979|0}})
| '''0'''
|-
| {{hs|Warren}}[[File:Elizabeth Warren by Gage Skidmore.jpg|160x160px]]<br>'''[[Elizabeth Warren]]'''
| style="background:#b61b28;" |
| {{dts|1949|6|22}}<br>(age {{age nts|1949|6|22}})<br>[[Oklahoma City|Oklahoma City, Oklahoma]]
| '''[[United States Senate|U.S. senator]] from [[Massachusetts]]'''<br>(2013–present)
| {{hs|MA}}[[File:Flag of Massachusetts.svg|90x90px]]<br>[[Massachusetts]]
| {{hs|2019-02-19}}[[File:Elizabeth Warren 2020 presidential campaign logo.svg|frameless|120x120px]]<br><small>([[Elizabeth Warren 2020 presidential campaign|Campaign]] • [[Political positions of Elizabeth Warren|Positions]])</small>
----{{small|Exploratory committee:<br>{{dts|2018|12|31}}<br>'''Campaign: {{dts|2019|02|09}}'''<br>[http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/256/201902130300267256/201902130300267256.pdf FEC filing]}}
| style="font-size:90%; padding:10px;" | 0 / 3979 ({{percentage|0|3979|0}})
| '''0'''
|}

For the remaining candidates, their colors are more or less picked just for the sake of discernability in statewide maps (in the case they win any counties or delegates). If any candidate happens to drop out between now and the Iowa caucuses, their color can be reassigned to another candidate still running, if needed:

{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%" 
|-
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Michael Bennet]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Michael Bloomberg]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Cory Booker]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[John Delaney]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Tulsi Gabbard]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Amy Klobuchar]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Deval Patrick]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Tom Steyer]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Marianne Williamson]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Andrew Yang]]</big>
|-
|[[File:Michael Bennet by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Michael Bloomberg by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Cory Booker by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:John Delaney 2019 crop.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Tulsi Gabbard August 2019.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Amy Klobuchar 2019 (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Deval Patrick 2016.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Tom Steyer by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Marianne Williamson November 2019.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Andrew Yang by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|-
| {{color fill|#808000}}
| {{color fill|#964b00}}
| {{color fill|#00ced1}}
| {{color fill|#ff00ff}}
| {{color fill|#ff7518}}
| {{color fill|#9370db}}
| {{color fill|#adff2f}}
| {{color fill|#edc9af}}
| {{color fill|#f487ae}}
| {{color fill|#87d3f8}}
|}

I made a [https://imgur.com/LKoXVFs test map] of Iowa to show how the colors would display on a statewide results map. Please feel free to suggest any improvements! — [[User:Tony Patt|Tony Patt]] <small>([[User talk:Tony Patt|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tony Patt|contribs]])</small> 19:17, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
:I like it, but I don't think there's any pressing reason to decide right now. More candidates may drop out before any voting occurs, and that may free up some more "desirable" colors for candidates still in the race. I also don't think candidates unlikely to win delegates or a majority in any county need a color at all. Regardless, I'm definitely a fan of the colors for the "top four" (using Warren's color, as it's rather muted, could be problematic). I wouldn't be opposed to Warren's official blue tone being used for her and Biden's red being used for him either. [[User:WMSR|WMSR]] ([[User talk:WMSR|talk]]) 19:57, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks for the feedback! This {{color box|#df2535}} is how Warren's color looks with increased brightness; however, I personally think that the present shade contrasts adequately well with the other main candidates' colors on a map. I also agree that candidates who fail to win any counties or delegates should have their colors removed afterwards. I guess we'll have to wait until the results start rolling in before finalizing anything. — [[User:Tony Patt|Tony Patt]] <small>([[User talk:Tony Patt|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tony Patt|contribs]])</small> 23:31, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
:::Ah, I was talking about the "liberty green" color when I referred to "Warren's color", my bad. [[User:WMSR|WMSR]] ([[User talk:WMSR|talk]]) 01:57, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
:When I make map predictions, I use those four colors aswell. However, concurring with past presidential primary articles as well as independent sources such as RealClearPolitics and FiveThirtyEight, I don't think we should give a candidate a "cobalt" or "normal" blue color due to that being the official party color. We could substitute it with a navy blue or a lighter blue.[[User:Quvuq0737|Quvuq0737]] ([[User talk:Quvuq0737|talk]]) 11:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

=== Alternate suggestion on colors ===
For consistency, I would suggest using the colors that have already been picked for the polling graphs, without reference to candidates' "official colors", but with good legibility and rather uniform saturation. That's how it would look, in order of current polling (candidates polling under 1% have not been assigned a color):
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%" 
|-
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Joe Biden]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Bernie Sanders]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Elizabeth Warren]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Pete Buttigieg]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Michael Bloomberg]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Andrew Yang]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Amy Klobuchar]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Cory Booker]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Tulsi Gabbard]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Tom Steyer]]</big>
|-
|[[File:Joe Biden (48554137807) (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Bernie Sanders July 2019 (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Elizabeth Warren by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Pete Buttigieg by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Michael Bloomberg by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Andrew Yang by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Amy Klobuchar 2019 (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Cory Booker by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Tulsi Gabbard August 2019.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Tom Steyer by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|-
| {{color fill|Green}}
| {{color fill|Blue}}
| {{color fill|Red}}
| {{color fill|Purple}}
| {{color fill|Brown}}
| {{color fill|DeepSkyBlue}}
| {{color fill|HotPink}}
| {{color fill|Grey}}
| {{color fill|Navy}}
| {{color fill|Chocolate}}
|}
Thoughts? — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 18:05, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

I support keeping colors consistent between the polling graphs and everywhere else; however, I also support keeping colors consistent between election years. Just as Hillary was assigned yellow for 2008 and again had it in 2016, Bernie was assigned green in 2016 and should again have green in 2020. I support basing the color assignments here off of the ones in the graph, except for switching Biden's and Bernie's colors both here and in the graph to the following color scheme:
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%" 
|-
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Joe Biden]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Bernie Sanders]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Elizabeth Warren]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Pete Buttigieg]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Michael Bloomberg]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Andrew Yang]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Amy Klobuchar]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Cory Booker]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Tulsi Gabbard]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Tom Steyer]]</big>
|-
|[[File:Joe Biden (48554137807) (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Bernie Sanders July 2019 (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Elizabeth Warren by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Pete Buttigieg by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Michael Bloomberg by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Andrew Yang by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Amy Klobuchar 2019 (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Cory Booker by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Tulsi Gabbard August 2019.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Tom Steyer by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]

|-
| {{color fill|Blue}}
| {{color fill|Green}}
| {{color fill|Red}}
| {{color fill|Purple}}
| {{color fill|Brown}}
| {{color fill|DeepSkyBlue}}
| {{color fill|HotPink}}
| {{color fill|Grey}}
| {{color fill|Navy}}
| {{color fill|Chocolate}}
|}

{{Graph:Chart
 | width = 800
 | height= 450
 | type = line
 | interpolate = basis
 | xType = date
 | xAxisAngle = -40
 | yAxisTitle = % Support
 | legend = Candidates
 | yGrid = yes

 | x = <!-- 2018 --> 2018/12/01, 2018/12/08, 2018/12/12, 2018/12/17, 2018/12/24, 2018/12/30,
<!-- 2019 Q1 --> 2019/01/05, 2019/01/12, 2019/01/17, 2019/01/24,
 2019/02/01, 2019/02/08, 2019/02/15, 2019/02/22,
 2019/03/01, 2019/03/08, 2019/03/16, 2019/03/24,
<!-- Q2 --> 2019/04/01, 2019/04/08, 2019/04/16, 2019/04/24,
 2019/05/01, 2019/05/08, 2019/05/16, 2019/05/24,
 2019/06/01, 2019/06/08, 2019/06/16, 2019/06/24, <!-- Debate 1 -->2019/06/27, 2019/06/27,<!-- /D -->
<!-- Q3 --> 2019/07/03, 2019/07/10, 2019/07/17, 2019/07/26, 2019/07/31, <!-- Debate 2 -->2019/07/31,<!-- /D -->
 2019/08/07, 2019/08/14, 2019/08/21, 2019/08/28,
 2019/09/04, 2019/09/11, <!-- Debate 3 -->2019/09/12, 2019/09/12,<!-- /D --> 2019/09/18, 2019/09/25,
<!-- Q4 --> 2019/10/02, 2019/10/09, <!-- Debate 4 -->2019/10/15, 2019/10/15,<!-- /D --> 2019/10/16, 2019/10/23, 2019/10/30,
 2019/11/06, 2019/11/13, 2019/11/20, <!-- Debate 5 -->2019/11/20,<!-- /D --> 2019/11/27,
 2019/12/04, 2019/12/11, 2019/12/18, <!-- Debate 6 -->2019/12/19, 2019/12/19,<!-- /D --> 2019/12/25,
<!-- 2020 Q1 --> 2020/01/01, 2020/01/08, 2020/01/11, <!-- Debate 7 -->2020/01/14, 2020/01/14, <!-- /D --><!-- Iowa Caucus -->2020/02/03, 2020/02/03, <!-- /D --><!-- Debate 8 -->2020/02/07, 2020/02/07, <!-- /D --><!-- Debate 9 -->2020/02/19, 2020/02/19, <!-- /D --><!-- Debate 10 -->2020/02/25, 2020/02/25, <!-- /D --><!-- Super Tuesday -->2020/03/03, 2020/03/03, <!-- /D --><!-- Democratic Convention -->2020/07/13, 2020/07/13<!-- /D -->
 | y1 = <!-- 2018 --> 27.6, 26.8, 26.0, 25.6, 26.2, 26.7, 
<!-- 2019 Q1 --> 27.5, 28.6, 29.6, 29.6,   29.0, 28.7, 28.7, 29.0,   29.5, 30.2, 31.1, 30.8, 
     <!-- Q2 --> 29.1, 28.5, 30.0, 32.1,   36.1, 37.0, 35.3, 33.9,   32.8, 31.3, 31.8, 32.0, ,,
     <!-- Q3 --> 24.3, 26.3, 27.5, 29.0, 30.7,,   29.8, 29.6, 28.4, 29.2,   28.8, 26.8,,, 28.9, 27.8, 
     <!-- Q4 --> 26.7, 26.8,,, 27.5, 27.8, 26.9,   27.4, 26.2, 28.2,, 27.2,   27.1, 27.5, 27.1,,, 28.0,
<!-- 2020 Q1 --> 28.5, 28.5, 27.7, <!-- Biden -->
 | y2 = <!-- 2018 --> 18.7, 18.0, 17.2, 17.1, 17.1, 17.6, 
<!-- 2019 Q1 --> 18.2, 18.2, 18.2, 17.8,   18.5, 19.2, 20.4, 21.7,   22.9, 23.4, 23.1, 22.8, 
     <!-- Q2 --> 22.3, 21.5, 19.9, 18.4,   16.7, 16.8, 17.4, 17.5,   17.3, 16.0, 16.1, 17.9, ,,
     <!-- Q3 --> 13.9, 15.5, 15.2, 14.9, 16.3,,   16.5, 17.5, 15.3, 16.2,   16.0, 17.3,,, 16.7, 17.1, 
     <!-- Q4 --> 16.0, 14.9,,, 14.7, 16.6, 15.7,   17.4, 17.1, 16.4,, 17.4,   15.6, 17.6, 18.5,,, 18.5,
<!-- 2020 Q1 --> 18.5, 19.0, 19.4, <!-- Sanders -->
 | y3 = <!-- 2018 --> 4.8, 4.7, 4.6, 5.1, 5.8, 6.6, 
<!-- 2019 Q1 -->  7.2, 7.6, 7.7, 7.5,   7.2, 7.0, 6.9, 6.8,   6.5, 6.4, 6.2, 6.2, 
     <!-- Q2 -->  5.9, 5.9, 6.3, 6.8,   7.3, 8.0, 8.4, 8.9,   9.6, 11.7, 13.0, 13.4, ,,
     <!-- Q3 --> 14.9, 15.4, 15.3, 15.3, 15.6,,   16.8, 18.8, 16.2, 16.5,   18.4, 18.1,,, 18.1, 21.7, 
     <!-- Q4 --> 23.6, 25.3,,, 25.5, 22.4, 21.9,   22.2, 21.7, 20.0,, 17.0,   15.6, 16.1, 15.1,,, 15.4,
<!-- 2020 Q1 --> 15.3, 15.9, 16.2, <!-- Warren -->
 | y4 = <!-- 2018 --> ,,,,,, <!-- 2019 Q1 --> ,,, 0.1,   0.1, 0.1, 0.0, 0.0,   0.2, 0.7, 1.5, 2.5, 
     <!-- Q2 -->  4.5, 6.2, 7.5, 7.7,   6.5, 5.9, 5.6, 6.1,   7.5, 8.2, 8.1, 6.8, ,,
     <!-- Q3 -->  5.5, 5.7, 5.4, 5.4, 6.0,,   6.1, 6.1, 5.1, 4.9,   5.3, 5.2,,, 5.5, 6.0, 
     <!-- Q4 -->  5.9, 5.4,,, 6.0, 6.2, 7.5,   7.5, 7.9, 7.9,, 11.3,   11.9, 9.5, 8.9,,, 8.0,
<!-- 2020 Q1 -->  7.7, 7.1, 7.2, <!-- Buttigieg -->
 | y5 = <!-- 2018 --> 3.0, 3.0, 2.3, 2.3, 2.3, 1.7, 
<!-- 2019 Q1 -->  2.2, 1.7, 2.6, 2.2,   2.0, 2.6, 2.8, 2.0,   1.9, 1.6 <!-- Bloomberg (early polls) -->
 | y6 = <!-- 2018 --> ,,,,,, <!-- 2019 Q1 --> ,,,,  ,,,,  ,,,, <!-- Q2 --> ,,,,  ,,,,  ,,,, ,, <!-- Q3 --> ,,,,, , ,,,,  ,, ,, ,,  
     <!-- Q4 --> ,, ,, ,,,  ,, 3.0,, 2.4,   3.7, 4.4, 5.0,,, 5.4,
<!-- 2020 Q1 -->  4.8, 4.7, 5.5, <!-- Bloomberg (as candidate) --> 
 | y7 = <!-- 2018 --> 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 
<!-- 2019 Q1 -->  0.6, 0.5, 0.5, 0.3,   0.3, 0.4, 1.0, 1.0,   1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.1, 
     <!-- Q2 -->  1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.2,   1.0, 1.2, 1.2, 1.0,   0.9, 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, ,,
     <!-- Q3 -->  1.0, 1.5, 1.7, 2.1, 1.9,,   1.8, 1.6, 1.8, 2.5,   2.5, 2.7,,, 3.0, 3.3, 
     <!-- Q4 -->  3.0, 3.1,,, 2.4, 2.8, 2.7,   2.7, 3.0, 2.7,, 3.4,   3.1, 3.5, 3.6,,, 3.7,
<!-- 2020 Q1 -->  3.6, 3.6, 3.5, <!-- Yang -->
 | y8 = <!-- 2018 --> 0.5, 0.5, 0.0, 0.3, 0.3, 0.3, 
<!-- 2019 Q1 -->  2.1, 2.3, 2.2, 1.7,   1.7, 1.8, 2.0, 2.3,   2.9, 3.1, 3.2, 2.3, 
     <!-- Q2 -->  2.2, 2.1, 1.9, 1.7,   1.6, 1.6, 1.6, 1.5,   1.7, 1.8, 1.6, 1.2, ,,
     <!-- Q3 -->  1.2, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1,,   1.1, 1.3, 1.3, 1.0,   1.2, 1.1,,, 0.9, 1.1, 
     <!-- Q4 -->  1.3, 1.5,,, 1.7, 1.9, 2.2,   2.3, 2.2, 2.1,, 2.1,   2.5, 2.7, 3.2,,, 3.5,
<!-- 2020 Q1 -->  3.5, 3.3, 3.2, <!-- Klobuchar -->
 | y9 = <!-- 2018 --> 26.8, 27.3, 29.5, 29.2, 29.0, 27.9, 
<!-- 2019 Q1 --> 23.1, 23.2, 21.6, 21.8,   20.6, 17.6, 16.6, 17.9,   14.3, 12.7, 13.1, 13.3, 
     <!-- Q2 --> 15.1, 15.6, 15.2, 16.0,   16.1, 15.6, 16.7, 17.2,   16.5, 16.7, 15.4, 15.8, ,,
     <!-- Q3 --> 19.2, 15.7, 16.3, 15.7, 12.6,,   14.2, 11.8, 19.5, 17.4,   16.8, 17.1,,, 15.2, 13.1, 
     <!-- Q4 --> 14.7, 13.1,,, 13.5, 12.5, 14.7,   13.9, 15.1, 13.6,, 13.3,   14.4, 16.6, 16.6,,, 15.3,
<!-- 2020 Q1 --> 15.6, 15.7, 15.1, <!-- Others/Undecided -->
 | y10 = <!-- 2018 --> 4.7, 4.8, 4.9, 5.0, 5.0, 5.5, 
<!-- 2019 Q1 -->  5.8, 6.4, 7.3, 9.0,   10.5, 11.2, 11.5, 11.1,   10.5, 9.6, 9.0, 8.2, 
     <!-- Q2 -->  7.9, 7.6, 7.4, 7.0,    6.7,  6.9,  7.0,  7.4,    7.4, 7.4, 7.0, 6.2, ,,
     <!-- Q3 --> 16.0, 15.1, 13.3, 12.1, 11.5,,   9.1, 8.4, 7.6, 7.5,   6.9, 6.7,,, 5.9, 5.2, 
     <!-- Q4 -->  5.1,  4.7,,, 5.0,  5.5,  4.9,   4.5, 4.7, 4.4,, 4.0,   3.8 <!-- Harris - out of race, leave in graph but do not add more data -->
 | y11 = <!-- 2018 --> 9.9, 11.0, 11.6, 11.9, 11.1, 10.6, 
<!-- 2019 Q1 -->  9.6, 8.4, 7.0, 6.3,   6.0, 6.0, 6.0, 6.5,   6.9, 7.5, 8.0, 8.2, 
     <!-- Q2 -->  8.1, 7.7, 7.0, 6.0,   5.0, 4.4, 4.3, 4.0,   3.8, 3.7, 3.6, 3.1, ,,
     <!-- Q3 -->  2.1, 2.2, 2.6, 2.7, 2.7,,   2.6, 3.0, 2.6, 2.4,   1.9, 2.7,,, 2.7, 2.4, 
     <!-- Q4 -->  2.2, 1.9,,, 2.3, 2.3, 2.0 <!-- O'Rourke - out of race, leave in graph but do not add more data -->
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 |y13 = <!-- 2018 --> ,,,,,, <!-- 2019 Q1 --> ,,,, ,,,, ,,,, <!-- Q2 --> ,,,, ,,,, ,,,, ,,
<!-- Q3 --> ,,,, 0,40 <!-- Debate 2 -->	
 |y14 = <!-- 2018 --> ,,,,,, <!-- 2019 Q1 --> ,,,, ,,,, ,,,, <!-- Q2 --> ,,,, ,,,, ,,,, ,,
<!-- Q3 --> ,,,, ,, ,,,, ,, 0,40, ,, <!-- Debate 3 -->
 |y15 = <!-- 2018 --> ,,,,,, <!-- 2019 Q1 --> ,,,, ,,,, ,,,, <!-- Q2 --> ,,,, ,,,, ,,,, ,,
<!-- Q3 --> ,,,, ,, ,,,,  ,, ,, ,, <!-- Q4 --> ,, 0,40, ,,, <!-- Debate 4 -->
 |y16 = <!-- 2018 --> ,,,,,, <!-- 2019 Q1 --> ,,,, ,,,, ,,,, <!-- Q2 --> ,,,, ,,,, ,,,, ,,	
<!-- Q3 --> ,,,, ,, ,,,,  ,, ,, ,, <!-- Q4 --> ,, ,, ,,,  ,, 0,40, <!-- Debate 5 -->
 |y17 = <!-- 2018 --> ,,,,,, <!-- 2019 Q1 --> ,,,, ,,,, ,,,, <!-- Q2 --> ,,,, ,,,, ,,,, ,,	  
<!-- Q3 --> ,,,, ,, ,,,,  ,, ,, ,, <!-- Q4 --> ,, ,, ,,,  ,, ,, ,  ,,, 0,40, ,<!-- Debate 6 -->
 |y18 = <!-- 2018 --> ,,,,,, <!-- 2019 Q1 --> ,,,, ,,,, ,,,, <!-- Q2 --> ,,,, ,,,, ,,,, ,,	  
<!-- Q3 --> ,,,, ,, ,,,,  ,, ,, ,, <!-- Q4 --> ,, ,, ,,,  ,, ,, ,  ,,, ,, ,
<!-- 2020 Q1 --> ,,, 0,40, <!-- Debate 7 -->
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<!-- Others --> LightGrey, 
<!-- Withdrawn --> Orange, Olive, 
<!-- Debates --> LightSteelBlue, LightSteelBlue, LightSteelBlue, LightSteelBlue, LightSteelBlue, LightSteelBlue, LightSteelBlue
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 | y2Title = Bernie Sanders
 | y3Title = Elizabeth Warren
 | y4Title = Pete Buttigieg
 | y5Title = Michael Bloomberg (early polls)
 | y6Title = Michael Bloomberg (as candidate)
 | y7Title = Andrew Yang
 | y8Title = Amy Klobuchar
 | y9Title = Others / Undecided
 | y10Title = Kamala Harris (withdrawn)
 | y11Title = Beto O'Rourke (withdrawn)
 | y12Title = Debate 1
 | y13Title = Debate 2
 | y14Title = Debate 3
 | y15Title = Debate 4
 | y16Title = Debate 5
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 | y18Title = Debate 7
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Opinions on this? [[User:Cookieo131|Cookieo131]] ([[User talk:Cookieo131|talk]]) 23:38, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:The current colors are best, with maybe a couple minor changes, since I doubt the "official colors" chosen by the candidates mean anything to most people.

:Bernie Sanders should keep the color green if he had it last time, and it's easy to give him that color again in the 2020 campaign. IMHO, Biden should have roughly the same color as Clinton, since both have been frontrunner candidates in their most recent years of candidacy (and favorites to win the Democratic Party competition) and are within what would be considered the more centrist division of the party, compared to &mdash; for example &mdash; Elizabeth Warren's farther-left position. Red is a good color for Warren's campaign, as she is one of the left-wing or left-of-establishment candidates. I think other colors could also be assigned based on political stances of the candidates: Steyer could be some sort of green (obviously, however, not like Bernie's color) because green politics is his focus, while Buttigieg should be purple or pink for his stance on LGBT. Of course, for some of the other candidates, they do not have a specific political focus or niche within the party, so they can be assigned any color, and it shouldn't be an issue. <small>--Comment by </small> [[User:SelfieCity|<b style="color:#14866d">Selfie City</b>]] ([[User_talk:SelfieCity|<span style="color:#14866d">talk</span>]] about my [[Special:Contribs/SelfieCity|<span style="color:#14866d">contributions</span>]]) 00:09, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
::I would prefer to use a green for Klobuchar, as that is the color she overwhelmingly uses. Shes the only candidate who's campaign logo is overwhelmingly green, and I can't imagine Steyer as a more green deserving candidate than Klobuchar. [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 03:24, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
::I agree with green for Klobuchar, but again I think we should wait until votes are cast. It's also a good color for Sanders. {{u|SelfieCity}}, every Democratic candidate has pretty much the same views on LGBT issues. What you are suggesting amounts to assigning Buttigieg pink because he's gay, which is problematic. Gold is definitely a better choice for him, since his campaign heavily utilizes it. [[User:WMSR|WMSR]] ([[User talk:WMSR|talk]]) 05:57, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
::I would support {{u|Cookieo131}}'s suggestion to swap Biden and Sanders' colors, for consistency with Sanders in 2016. For the rest, I'm wary of assigning colors to candidates based on their perceived political positions. I'm satisfied with the revised lineup. — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 07:38, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

The color scheme looks good overall, although there might be some issues with Buttigieg's color. I ran the colors through a [https://davidmathlogic.com/colorblind/#%230000FF-%23228B22-%23FF0000-%23800080 colorblind simulator] and Buttigieg's color came out looking virtually identical to Biden's in some tests; the same could be said for Warren and Sanders to a lesser extent. As this could pose a problem in maps of state-level results, I agree with [[User:WMSR|WMSR]]'s suggestion that gold is probably a better color choice for Buttigieg ([https://davidmathlogic.com/colorblind/#%230000FF-%23228B22-%23FF0000-%23FFD700 comparison]).
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! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Bernie Sanders]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Elizabeth Warren]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Pete Buttigieg]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Michael Bloomberg]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Andrew Yang]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Amy Klobuchar]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Tulsi Gabbard]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Tom Steyer]]</big>
|-
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|[[File:Bernie Sanders July 2019 (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Elizabeth Warren by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Pete Buttigieg by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Michael Bloomberg by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Andrew Yang by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Amy Klobuchar 2019 (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Tulsi Gabbard August 2019.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Tom Steyer by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
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| {{color fill|MediumBlue}}
| {{color fill|ForestGreen}}
| {{color fill|Crimson}}
| {{color fill|Gold}}
| {{color fill|Brown}}
| {{color fill|DeepSkyBlue}}
| {{color fill|HotPink}}
| {{color fill|Navy}}
| {{color fill|Chocolate}}
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In addition to Buttigieg, I also made some minor adjustments to the other frontrunners' colors:
*'''Biden:''' {{legend0|Blue|Blue}} → {{legend0|MediumBlue|Medium Blue}} (slightly less "generic" shade, purely for aesthetic reasons)
*'''Sanders:''' {{legend0|Green|Green}} → {{legend0|ForestGreen|Forest Green}} (the latter is the exact hex he used in 2016)
*'''Warren:''' {{legend0|Red|Red}} → {{legend0|Crimson|Crimson}} ([https://davidmathlogic.com/colorblind/#%230000FF-%23228B22-%23DC143C-%23FFD700 performs relatively better] in colorblind tests without diverging too far from the original color)
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 | xType = date
 | xAxisAngle = -40
 | yAxisTitle = % Support
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 | yGrid = yes

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<!-- 2019 Q1 --> 2019/01/05, 2019/01/12, 2019/01/17, 2019/01/24,
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<!-- Q2 --> 2019/04/01, 2019/04/08, 2019/04/16, 2019/04/24,
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<!-- Q3 --> 2019/07/03, 2019/07/10, 2019/07/17, 2019/07/26, 2019/07/31, <!-- Debate 2 -->2019/07/31,<!-- /D -->
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<!-- Q4 --> 2019/10/02, 2019/10/09, <!-- Debate 4 -->2019/10/15, 2019/10/15,<!-- /D --> 2019/10/16, 2019/10/23, 2019/10/30,
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<!-- 2019 Q1 --> 27.5, 28.6, 29.6, 29.6,   29.0, 28.7, 28.7, 29.0,   29.5, 30.2, 31.1, 30.8, 
     <!-- Q2 --> 29.1, 28.5, 30.0, 32.1,   36.1, 37.0, 35.3, 33.9,   32.8, 31.3, 31.8, 32.0, ,,
     <!-- Q3 --> 24.3, 26.3, 27.5, 29.0, 30.7,,   29.8, 29.6, 28.4, 29.2,   28.8, 26.8,,, 28.9, 27.8, 
     <!-- Q4 --> 26.7, 26.8,,, 27.5, 27.8, 26.9,   27.4, 26.2, 28.2,, 27.2,   27.1, 27.5, 27.1,,, 28.0,
<!-- 2020 Q1 --> 28.5, 28.5, 27.5, <!-- Biden -->
 | y2 = <!-- 2018 --> 18.7, 18.0, 17.2, 17.1, 17.1, 17.6, 
<!-- 2019 Q1 --> 18.2, 18.2, 18.2, 17.8,   18.5, 19.2, 20.4, 21.7,   22.9, 23.4, 23.1, 22.8, 
     <!-- Q2 --> 22.3, 21.5, 19.9, 18.4,   16.7, 16.8, 17.4, 17.5,   17.3, 16.0, 16.1, 17.9, ,,
     <!-- Q3 --> 13.9, 15.5, 15.2, 14.9, 16.3,,   16.5, 17.5, 15.3, 16.2,   16.0, 17.3,,, 16.7, 17.1, 
     <!-- Q4 --> 16.0, 14.9,,, 14.7, 16.6, 15.7,   17.4, 17.1, 16.4,, 17.4,   15.6, 17.6, 18.5,,, 18.5,
<!-- 2020 Q1 --> 18.5, 19.0, 19.4, <!-- Sanders -->
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<!-- 2019 Q1 -->  7.2, 7.6, 7.7, 7.5,   7.2, 7.0, 6.9, 6.8,   6.5, 6.4, 6.2, 6.2, 
     <!-- Q2 -->  5.9, 5.9, 6.3, 6.8,   7.3, 8.0, 8.4, 8.9,   9.6, 11.7, 13.0, 13.4, ,,
     <!-- Q3 --> 14.9, 15.4, 15.3, 15.3, 15.6,,   16.8, 18.8, 16.2, 16.5,   18.4, 18.1,,, 18.1, 21.7, 
     <!-- Q4 --> 23.6, 25.3,,, 25.5, 22.4, 21.9,   22.2, 21.7, 20.0,, 17.0,   15.6, 16.1, 15.1,,, 15.4,
<!-- 2020 Q1 --> 15.3, 15.9, 16.2, <!-- Warren -->
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     <!-- Q2 -->  4.5, 6.2, 7.5, 7.7,   6.5, 5.9, 5.6, 6.1,   7.5, 8.2, 8.1, 6.8, ,,
     <!-- Q3 -->  5.5, 5.7, 5.4, 5.4, 6.0,,   6.1, 6.1, 5.1, 4.9,   5.3, 5.2,,, 5.5, 6.0, 
     <!-- Q4 -->  5.9, 5.4,,, 6.0, 6.2, 7.5,   7.5, 7.9, 7.9,, 11.3,   11.9, 9.5, 8.9,,, 8.0,
<!-- 2020 Q1 -->  7.7, 7.1, 7.2, <!-- Buttigieg -->
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<!-- 2019 Q1 -->  2.2, 1.7, 2.6, 2.2,   2.0, 2.6, 2.8, 2.0,   1.9, 1.6 <!-- Bloomberg (early polls) -->
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     <!-- Q4 --> ,, ,, ,,,  ,, 3.0,, 2.4,   3.7, 4.4, 5.0,,, 5.4,
<!-- 2020 Q1 -->  4.8, 4.7, 5.5, <!-- Bloomberg (as candidate) --> 
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<!-- 2019 Q1 -->  0.6, 0.5, 0.5, 0.3,   0.3, 0.4, 1.0, 1.0,   1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.1, 
     <!-- Q2 -->  1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.2,   1.0, 1.2, 1.2, 1.0,   0.9, 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, ,,
     <!-- Q3 -->  1.0, 1.5, 1.7, 2.1, 1.9,,   1.8, 1.6, 1.8, 2.5,   2.5, 2.7,,, 3.0, 3.3, 
     <!-- Q4 -->  3.0, 3.1,,, 2.4, 2.8, 2.7,   2.7, 3.0, 2.7,, 3.4,   3.1, 3.5, 3.6,,, 3.7,
<!-- 2020 Q1 -->  3.6, 3.6, 3.7, <!-- Yang -->
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<!-- 2019 Q1 -->  2.1, 2.3, 2.2, 1.7,   1.7, 1.8, 2.0, 2.3,   2.9, 3.1, 3.2, 2.3, 
     <!-- Q2 -->  2.2, 2.1, 1.9, 1.7,   1.6, 1.6, 1.6, 1.5,   1.7, 1.8, 1.6, 1.2, ,,
     <!-- Q3 -->  1.2, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1, 1.1,,   1.1, 1.3, 1.3, 1.0,   1.2, 1.1,,, 0.9, 1.1, 
     <!-- Q4 -->  1.3, 1.5,,, 1.7, 1.9, 2.2,   2.3, 2.2, 2.1,, 2.1,   2.5, 2.7, 3.2,,, 3.5,
<!-- 2020 Q1 -->  3.5, 3.3, 3.3, <!-- Klobuchar --> 
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<!-- 2019 Q1 --> 23.1, 23.2, 21.6, 21.8,   20.6, 17.6, 16.6, 17.9,   14.3, 12.7, 13.1, 13.3, 
     <!-- Q2 --> 15.1, 15.6, 15.2, 16.0,   16.1, 15.6, 16.7, 17.2,   16.5, 16.7, 15.4, 15.8, ,,
     <!-- Q3 --> 19.2, 15.7, 16.3, 15.7, 12.6,,   14.2, 11.8, 19.5, 17.4,   16.8, 17.1,,, 15.2, 13.1, 
     <!-- Q4 --> 14.7, 13.1,,, 13.5, 12.5, 14.7,   13.9, 15.1, 13.6,, 13.3,   14.4, 16.6, 16.6,,, 15.3,
<!-- 2020 Q1 --> 15.6, 15.7, 15.0, <!-- Others/Undecided -->
 | y10 = <!-- 2018 --> 4.1, 4.0, 3.9, 3.6, 3.3, 3.1, 
<!-- 2019 Q1 -->  2.9, 3.1, 3.3, 3.7,   3.9, 4.0, 4.1, 4.0,   4.0, 4.0, 3.9, 3.7, 
     <!-- Q2 -->  3.6, 3.5, 3.2, 3.0,   3.0, 2.7, 2.5, 2.5,   2.5, 2.3, 2.3, 2.4, ,,
     <!-- Q3 -->  1.9, 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 1.7,,  2.0, 1.9, 2.2, 2.4,   2.3, 2.3,,, 3.1, 1.7, 
     <!-- Q4 -->  1.6, 1.2,,, 1.4, 1.9, 1.5,   2.1, 2.1, 1.7,, 1.9,   2.2, 2.1, 2.5,,, 2.2,
<!-- 2020 Q1 -->  2.5, 2.2, 2.2, <!-- Booker - out of race, leave in graph but do not add more data -->
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<!-- 2019 Q1 -->  5.8, 6.4, 7.3, 9.0,   10.5, 11.2, 11.5, 11.1,   10.5, 9.6, 9.0, 8.2, 
     <!-- Q2 -->  7.9, 7.6, 7.4, 7.0,    6.7,  6.9,  7.0,  7.4,    7.4, 7.4, 7.0, 6.2, ,,
     <!-- Q3 --> 16.0, 15.1, 13.3, 12.1, 11.5,,   9.1, 8.4, 7.6, 7.5,   6.9, 6.7,,, 5.9, 5.2, 
     <!-- Q4 -->  5.1,  4.7,,, 5.0,  5.5,  4.9,   4.5, 4.7, 4.4,, 4.0,   3.8 <!-- Harris - out of race, leave in graph but do not add more data -->
 | y12 = <!-- 2018 --> 9.9, 11.0, 11.6, 11.9, 11.1, 10.6, 
<!-- 2019 Q1 -->  9.6, 8.4, 7.0, 6.3,   6.0, 6.0, 6.0, 6.5,   6.9, 7.5, 8.0, 8.2, 
     <!-- Q2 -->  8.1, 7.7, 7.0, 6.0,   5.0, 4.4, 4.3, 4.0,   3.8, 3.7, 3.6, 3.1, ,,
     <!-- Q3 -->  2.1, 2.2, 2.6, 2.7, 2.7,,   2.6, 3.0, 2.6, 2.4,   1.9, 2.7,,, 2.7, 2.4, 
     <!-- Q4 -->  2.2, 1.9,,, 2.3, 2.3, 2.0 <!-- O'Rourke - out of race, leave in graph but do not add more data -->
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<!-- Q3 --> ,,,, 0,40 <!-- Debate 2 -->	
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<!-- Q3 --> ,,,, ,, ,,,, ,, 0,40, ,, <!-- Debate 3 -->
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<!-- Q3 --> ,,,, ,, ,,,,  ,, ,, ,, <!-- Q4 --> ,, 0,40, ,,, <!-- Debate 4 -->
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<!-- Q3 --> ,,,, ,, ,,,,  ,, ,, ,, <!-- Q4 --> ,, ,, ,,,  ,, 0,40, <!-- Debate 5 -->
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<!-- Q3 --> ,,,, ,, ,,,,  ,, ,, ,, <!-- Q4 --> ,, ,, ,,,  ,, ,, ,  ,,, 0,40, ,<!-- Debate 6 -->
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<!-- Q3 --> ,,,, ,, ,,,,  ,, ,, ,, <!-- Q4 --> ,, ,, ,,,  ,, ,, ,  ,,, ,, ,
<!-- 2020 Q1 --> ,,, 0,40, <!-- Debate 7 -->
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<!-- Others --> LightGrey, 
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 | y2Title = Bernie Sanders
 | y3Title = Elizabeth Warren
 | y4Title = Pete Buttigieg
 | y5Title = Michael Bloomberg (early polls)
 | y6Title = Michael Bloomberg (as candidate)
 | y7Title = Andrew Yang
 | y8Title = Amy Klobuchar
 | y9Title = Others / Undecided
 | y10Title = Cory Booker (withdrawn)
 | y11Title = Kamala Harris (withdrawn)
 | y12Title = Beto O'Rourke (withdrawn)
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 | y14Title = Debate 2
 | y15Title = Debate 3
 | y16Title = Debate 4
 | y17Title = Debate 5
 | y18Title = Debate 6
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Note that I tentatively changed Kamala's color from orange to purple in order to make her line more distinguishable from Buttigieg's. — [[User:Tony Patt|Tony Patt]] <small>([[User talk:Tony Patt|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tony Patt|contribs]])</small> 22:05, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
:I really don't care in the big picture, but seriously, how is it "problematic" to support keeping his polling line purple because he's LGBT? If elected, Buttigieg would be only the second openly LGBT president of the U.S., so it's definitely notable. Whether the color chosen is gold or purple doesn't matter to me, but it's absurd to say that coloring it purple for said reason is somehow bigoted or discriminatory; and when a valid point is made with no discriminatory political motive, it should not be dismissed as "problematic," which doesn't actually explain what's wrong with the supposed purple color. It just makes out that you ([[User:WMSR|WMSR]]) oppose my statement without a valid reason. I'm happy to hear reasons why purple isn't the best color to use for Buttigieg, but "problematic" with no explanation is not a reason.
:Otherwise, there's nothing wrong with the new color choice if it's where consensus lies. <small>--Comment by </small> [[User:SelfieCity|<b style="color:#14866d">Selfie City</b>]] ([[User_talk:SelfieCity|<span style="color:#14866d">talk</span>]] about my [[Special:Contribs/SelfieCity|<span style="color:#14866d">contributions</span>]]) 03:01, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
::Buchanan was not "openly" LGBT.—[[User:Naddruf|<u>Naddruf</u>]] ([[User talk:Naddruf|''talk'']] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Naddruf|'''contribs''']]) 03:34, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
::{{u|SelfieCity}}, I thought my explanation was pretty clear: Buttigieg has not specifically associated his campaign with LGBT issues. I feel that assigning him ''any'' color because of his sexuality is inappropriate. I want to be clear that I am not accusing you of anything, and I'm fine if his color ends up being purple, just not ''for that reason''. --[[User:WMSR|WMSR]] ([[User talk:WMSR|talk]]) 05:29, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
:Support! Big fan of this color scheme, looks very refined. Any proposals to assign candidates based on political positions (or worse, their sexuality) is a bad idea; and although I was fond of purple representing Buttigieg, the color blindness test is pretty overwhelming evidence against using it in conjunction with blue when both are top polling candidates and differentiating between the two is important. I know that its earlier use has no connection to his sexuality (actually, it was simply adapted from RealClearPolitics for the polling graph, with changes made since to the colors to better differentiate the candidates. Coincidentally, the same purple was also given to Buttigieg on electionbettingodds.com, so I still 'feel' that the color represents him. To [[User:SelfieCity|SelfieCity]], I liked the purple color myself, but I also advise you to, in the future, keep in mind that attributing colors based on perceived ideology has been previously criticized as being [[WP:OR]]; see discussion of candidate colors in archive 3 for this page. [[User:Cookieo131|Cookieo131]] ([[User talk:Cookieo131|talk]]) 04:30, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
* {{ping|WMSR}} Thanks for a really good explanation for using gold instead of purple. I can now support all of the new colors in the graph. <small>--Comment by </small> [[User:SelfieCity|<b style="color:#14866d">Selfie City</b>]] ([[User_talk:SelfieCity|<span style="color:#14866d">talk</span>]] about my [[Special:Contribs/SelfieCity|<span style="color:#14866d">contributions</span>]]) 12:02, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

=== Final tweak ===
Looks like there is broad agreement on adopting this color scheme. Before we implement it, I would suggest a final tweak on Buttigieg's color: switching from Gold to Goldenrod, because it has better contrast, and blends in well with the others in terms of color saturation. Also moved Biden back to "generic blue" because the "medium blue" looks too close to Gabbard's "navy blue" to my eyes. Here's how it looks:
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%" 
|-
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Joe Biden]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Bernie Sanders]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Elizabeth Warren]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Pete Buttigieg]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Michael Bloomberg]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Andrew Yang]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Amy Klobuchar]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Tulsi Gabbard]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Tom Steyer]]</big>
|-
|[[File:Joe Biden (48554137807) (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Bernie Sanders July 2019 (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Elizabeth Warren by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Pete Buttigieg by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Michael Bloomberg by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Andrew Yang by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Amy Klobuchar 2019 (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Tulsi Gabbard August 2019.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Tom Steyer by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|-
| {{color fill|Blue}}
| {{color fill|ForestGreen}}
| {{color fill|Crimson}}
| {{color fill|Goldenrod}}
| {{color fill|Brown}}
| {{color fill|DeepSkyBlue}}
| {{color fill|HotPink}}
| {{color fill|Navy}}
| {{color fill|Chocolate}}
|}
:{{ping|Tony Patt|WMSR|Quvuq0737|Cookieo131|SelfieCity|WittyRecluse|Naddruf}} Would you agree? — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 10:34, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
::No, sorry, I've been taking my time with this one because I have a lot of nuanced opinions I wanted to all section here. I have several problems with this color scheme, actually. I am completely satisfied with Biden, Sanders, Buttigieg, Yang, and Steyer, as Blue, Green, Yellow, Light Blue, and Orange are very prevalent colors in their respective campaigns. 
::My problem comes in the others. I can tell the other colors were migrated from the National Polling page, but even with that mind I see absolutely no reason why Bloomberg is Brown, Klobuchar is Pink, and Gabbard is Navy. 
::Bloomberg doesn't really seem to have any colors prevalent in his campaign, he just uses Red, White, and Blue everywhere on his campaign, so I can understand if Brown was chosen at random by pollsters in aggregation, but hes not Brown in any aggregation set I could find. For example, he is Yellow in RCP. Furthermore, that Brown is horribly similar to Warren's Red. Bloomberg also hasn't ever had a previous campaign associated with a color on Wikipedia at least, as the Republican Red was used for all his Mayoral coloring. So what color for Bloomberg then? Well, I plotted all the colors on a hex color wheel and tried to find the named hex color furthest from all the current colors and got something in the purple range. Thus, I decided Medium Orchid is a solid color that should be very distinct from the rest. Oddly enough, it appears to be the same color as the shirt he is wearing.
:::As a side note, this probably counts as [[WP:OR]] or [[WP:SYNTH]] or something, but so does picking Brown and this was the best way I could find a way to randomly select a color that wouldn't conflict with the rest of the colors. 
::Klobuchar's color is pink for no reason because that color is not in RCP either (shes Black there) and her campaign color is overwhelmingly Green. I understand that Bernie is already Green for the sake of consistency with 2016, but if we think 3 shades of Blue are fine, surely 2 shades of Green are acceptable. Klobuchar uses a earthy Green, probably to signify the wilderness in Minnesota or something silly like that, but Sanders literally uses Forest Green, so a Light Green is preferable for Klobuchar imo.
::Gabbard doesnt use that Navy either, she has the same problem Bloomberg does with not choosing a color outside Red, White, and Blue. I could perhaps see that someone tied her military service to the color, but she was in the Army National Guard and not the Navy. That said, after some serious digging, I found that on her [https://secure.ngpvan.com/p/uEk71xTbu0iDkh_D4IJSuw2?ms=web-events-nav "Events"] page on her website, Pink is used extensively, so I would prefer to move Pink to Gabbard. As no one uses the navy, I've moved Biden back to the regular blue.

::I would like to note that I have no idea how this works with colorblindness and color saturation and the like, but as far as I am concerned this is a better way to represent actual campaign colors while still keeping the colors distinct and the page visually informative and pleasing. 

::Here is the updated table for final tweaks I would like (which include all the above tweaks minus the Biden ones for reasons I stated above).
::{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%" 
|-
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Joe Biden]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Bernie Sanders]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Elizabeth Warren]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Pete Buttigieg]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Michael Bloomberg]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Andrew Yang]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Amy Klobuchar]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Tulsi Gabbard]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Tom Steyer]]</big>
|-
|[[File:Joe Biden (48554137807) (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Bernie Sanders July 2019 (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Elizabeth Warren by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Pete Buttigieg by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Michael Bloomberg by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Andrew Yang by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Amy Klobuchar 2019 (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Tulsi Gabbard August 2019.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Tom Steyer by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|-
| {{color fill|MediumBlue}}
| {{color fill|ForestGreen}}
| {{color fill|Crimson}}
| {{color fill|Goldenrod}}
| {{color fill|MediumOrchid}}
| {{color fill|DeepSkyBlue}}
| {{color fill|LightGreen}}
| {{color fill|HotPink}}
| {{color fill|Chocolate}}
|}
::[[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 11:06, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
:::This looks great! [https://davidmathlogic.com/colorblind/#%230000CD-%23228B22-%23DC143C-%23DAA520-%23BA55D3-%2300BFFF-%2390EE90-%23FF69B4-%23D2691E Here] is how the colors appear in the colorblindness simulator and I would say the results came out pretty well. However, I doubt that the lower-polling candidates are going to win any contests at this rate so I don't think it's going to be a major issue after all in terms of mapping election results. I would support this as the final color scheme. — [[User:Tony Patt|Tony Patt]] <small>([[User talk:Tony Patt|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tony Patt|contribs]])</small> 12:43, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
:::Yes, this is the one - none of the colors are too similar to each other, and each candidate has a clear distinct color. I support this one completely.[[User:Fjantelov|Fjantelov]] ([[User talk:Fjantelov|talk]]) 12:54, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
:::{{u|WittyRecluse}}, my ''only'' reservation is that Klobuchar's green looks really similar to the "Liberty Green" color that Warren uses heavily in her campaign. I'm not sure whether that matters though. --[[User:WMSR|WMSR]] ([[User talk:WMSR|talk]]) 17:40, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
::::{{u|WMSR}}, I don't think it matters, but do you have a color you would prefer for Klobuchar over the Light Green? I don't have anything better, so I think this is best compromise possible. [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 12:02, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::{{u|WittyRecluse}} I don't think a decision needs to be made immediately. A drop-out may free up a color. --[[User:WMSR|WMSR]] ([[User talk:WMSR|talk]]) 14:23, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::: {{u|WMSR}} Well, in the meantime I think this will suffice. [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 14:30, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::{{u|WittyRecluse}}, is there a pressing need for a color scheme? Though I agree that this will suffice if this is the slate of candidates by Iowa. --[[User:WMSR|WMSR]] ([[User talk:WMSR|talk]]) 14:34, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
::::::::{{u|WMSR}}, no, no pressing need but it is good to get colors sorted out now. If someone drops out we can mess with their color as needed. [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 14:49, 16 January 2020 (UTC) 
What about these colors? 
* {{colorbox|#294592}} : Biden
* {{colorbox|#FFD500}} : Buttigieg
* {{colorbox|brown}} : Bloomberg
I think that Biden's blue is still too generic... -- [[User:Nick.mon|Nick.mon]] ([[User talk:Nick.mon|talk]]) 13:14, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
:I prefer the darker blue for Biden, while Buttigieg should remain goldenrod for clarity. As a higher-polling candidate, I prefer the purple for Bloomberg because it is more important to have contrast with Warren than with Gabbard, who is less likely to win any areas with her current polling.—[[User:Naddruf|<u>Naddruf</u>]] ([[User talk:Naddruf|''talk'']] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Naddruf|'''contribs''']]) 16:43, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
::Ok, I agree. As you said, a darker blu for Biden would be better. This shade is too similar to Democrats' meta-color. -- [[User:Nick.mon|Nick.mon]] ([[User talk:Nick.mon|talk]]) 10:00, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
:::Agreed as well. This blue is still close to the Democratic main color, and it's a very bright blue as well. I suggest a darker and duller blue. [[User:Quvuq0737|Quvuq0737]] ([[User talk:Quvuq0737|talk]]) 21:07, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
::::{{legend0|#224192}}This is the exact shade of blue Biden uses in his campaign material. — [[User:Tony Patt|Tony Patt]] <small>([[User talk:Tony Patt|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tony Patt|contribs]])</small> 12:56, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::Well I'd think we should use that one, then. [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 16:48, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
::::::Perfect! Let's use this shade. -- [[User:Nick.mon|Nick.mon]] ([[User talk:Nick.mon|talk]]) 10:45, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
:Just throwing this out here, but I'd also like to suggest {{legend0|#F2BA42}}"Heartland Yellow" for Buttigieg as well, as 1) it's stated as an official color on [https://design.peteforamerica.com/colors his website] and 2) goldenrod (#DAA520) is extremely similar to the color (#D4AA00) Clinton and Cruz used during the 2016 primaries, so in my opinion it came off as a bit overused and might potentially (though unlikely to) cause some confusion. — [[User:Tony Patt|Tony Patt]] <small>([[User talk:Tony Patt|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tony Patt|contribs]])</small> 15:22, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

====== small proposal ======

Hello everyone! I know the colors have mostly been chosen already, but I figured I'd just come in here and suggest what I think looks nice. My main objection with the colors is that they're just a little bit too generic and "basic" for me. Here's my proposal:
{{legend|#53278e|'''Joe Biden'''}} I think purple would be a better fit for Biden than blue. Idk why, maybe bc Obama's color was purple for his 2008 run? Also, right now the Biden blue looks way too similar to the Democratic Party Blue.
{{legend|#59c859|'''Bernie Sanders'''}} I modified the green (and the red for Warren) to be more aesthetically appealing (imo)
{{legend|#cf353e|'''Elizabeth Warren'''}} Again, more aesthetically appealing!
{{legend|#23bee8|'''Pete Buttigieg'''}} Looking at the thread, it seems that goldenrod is the accepted color for Buttigieg. Feel free to use the color I've listed for Kamala for Buttigieg instead.
{{legend|#f9ef17|'''Andrew Yang'''}} This is the one I'm least confident about, but it's probably the least important lol
{{legend|#ffae31|'''Kamala Harris'''}}
I know it's pretty late in the game to be considering colors, but these are my suggestions!! Thanks for reading! :)

ALSO!!! If you want a little demonstration of what the colors look like on a map, [https://i.imgur.com/JX2eYFE.png here's a link to a sample I made].

[[User:Beccabecco|Beccabecco]] ([[User talk:Beccabecco|talk]]) 10:01, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
*The most important thing is that a candidate only needs a color assigned if they win something -- generally a state or a county. With Kamala Harris having dropped out of the race more than a month ago, I doubt she's going to win the vote in her own house, much less a county or state. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User talk:Metropolitan90|(talk)]] 21:22, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

::{{ping|Metropolitan90}} Actually, all dropped out candidates who appear in the polling graph (including Harris, O'Rourke, Booker, and any others who may drop out and receive no delegates) still need their own color, as the map is supposed to match the graph lines.—[[User:Naddruf|<u>Naddruf</u>]] ([[User talk:Naddruf|''talk'']] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Naddruf|'''contribs''']]) 03:05, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2020 ==

{{edit semi-protected|2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries|answered=yes}}
Remove John Edwards from the Declined to run for President in 2020 Section as I have read the article and it didn't say anything about John Edwards declining. [[User:-Ishan832|-Ishan832]] ([[User talk:-Ishan832|talk]]) 21:08, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
:I removed Edwards. [[User:David O. Johnson|David O. Johnson]] ([[User talk:David O. Johnson|talk]]) 22:28, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

== Why does the chart not list who is on the ballot for NYS's April 23rd primary? ==

Why does the chart not list who is on the ballot for New York State's April 23rd primary? Elizabeth Warren's campaign sent out an email about needing to get enough signatures to get on the ballot by the deadline. [[User:WordwizardW|WordwizardW]] ([[User talk:WordwizardW|talk]]) 03:30, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Correction: NYS's April 28th primary, not April 23rd. [[User:WordwizardW|WordwizardW]] ([[User talk:WordwizardW|talk]]) 03:42, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
:Because the deadline isn't until February. --[[User:WMSR|WMSR]] ([[User talk:WMSR|talk]]) 05:32, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

== Not on the ballot anywhere ==

What exactly is the point of having a separate category for candidates who are not on the ballot anywhere, and what are the criteria for inclusion in that category? Currently the only name listed is Harry Braun. If he's not on the ballot anywhere, I assume he is at least a recognized write-in candidate somewhere? If so, shouldn't there be a source for that? [[User:Jah77|Jah77]] ([[User talk:Jah77|talk]]) 11:23, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
:Candidates who are notable but are not on the ballot anywhere are listed there. [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 21:45, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
::If you aren't on ''any'' ballot, are you really running? Semi-serious question. --[[User:WMSR|WMSR]] ([[User talk:WMSR|talk]]) 00:55, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
:::My point exactly. A candidate who isn't on the ballot or a recognized write-in anywhere isn't really a candidate at all. That's why I think Harry Braun should be removed unless there's evidence that he has at least recognized write-in status in at least one state. [[User:Jah77|Jah77]] ([[User talk:Jah77|talk]]) 17:45, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
::::I agree that Braun should be removed. [[User:David O. Johnson|David O. Johnson]] ([[User talk:David O. Johnson|talk]]) 22:26, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::I was simply stating what I thought was prior concensus. I agree with this one here. Braun should be removed. So, I have removed him. [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 05:43, 24 January 2020 (UTC)


:Adding here because it's kind of related: Should the article distinguish between minor candidates (notable or not in the Wikipedia sense) who might end up technically appearing on enough ballots to win the nomination, and those who won't? To clarify, if you sum the numbers of pledged delegates allocated to states that haven't published their ballots yet, and those without ballot access requirements, and the number of superdelegates, it comes to a minority, which means that any candidate who isn't on any of the ballots that have been published so far, even if they were to get onto all the remaining ballots, and if they won all pledged delegates in all of those districts and all the ones with unlimited ballots, and then received the votes of all the superdelegates at the convention, they still wouldn't be able to win, if I understand the rules right. The same is true for any candidate who's only on one of the ballots so far, even if they were to get onto all of the remaining ones, and even though they're on multiple ballots, also for Burke, Greenstein, Hewes, Krichevsky and Wells - but not so for Boyd, for example, who as of 27th January if she gets onto all ballots she hasn't been excluded from yet, and then wins all pledgeds in all the ones she's on the ballot for, and also all the supers, can still win a majority at the convention. Apart from Boyd, the other minor candidates to whom this still applies on 27th Jan are De La Fuente and Ellinger. Obviously nobody expects any of these three to actually get many delegates anywhere, but the same could probably be said of Bennet, Delaney and Patrick, whereas arithmetically if in no other way, De La Fuente, Ellinger and Boyd are more 'actual' candidates than all the other minor ones (at least until the rest of the states release their ballot lists) [[User:Adam Dent|Adam Dent]] ([[User talk:Adam Dent|talk]]) 13:27, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
:I expect a critereon for the minor candidate label is "is not considered a serious contender for the nomination by anyone of note in the field of politics", and thus the distinction of can or cannot win the nomination mathmatically is irrelevent. [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 03:54, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
::As much as I hate slippery slope arguments, that's sort of a slippery slope. If the nominee isn't decided after the first ballot at the convention, literally ''anyone'' could be the nominee, even if they haven't won a single delegate. --[[User:WMSR|WMSR]] ([[User talk:WMSR|talk]]) 03:58, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
:::My reaction to somebody being able to get a majority at the convention if she "gets onto all ballots she hasn't been excluded from yet, and then wins all pledgeds in all the ones she's on the ballot for, and also all the supers", was expressed by [[Shania Twain]] in a completely different context: "[[That Don't Impress Me Much]]". My advice to those candidates is "Become notable, and then Wikipedia can have an article about you, and you can move up to the status of being a ''minor'' candidate which you haven't even achieved yet." --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User talk:Metropolitan90|(talk)]] 05:07, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
::::Ah, I didn't fully understand the way subsequent votes at the convention work. In fact, having read the article on the convention, I still don't know what the rules or processes are: the pledged delegates vote, and then if no candidate gets a majority of those then there's another vote with all delegates including unpledged (are some candidates excluded from the second one? and if they are, do the delegates that had been pledged to them get to choose whichever other candidate they like to vote for?), and if no candidate gets a majority in the second vote either, then there's another vote... but with more different candidates to choose from? or some or all of the pledged candidates are allowed to change their votes? and again, do the people who happen to be the delegates just get to choose at that point? [[User:Adam Dent|Adam Dent]] ([[User talk:Adam Dent|talk]]) 15:07, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

== Why does the polling list the New York Times? ==

All other polling sources seems to be from aggregates, so the addition of the NYT seems odd. Is the NYT doing their own aggregate now, and where was it decided to include it with the other four?
:The New York Times does have an aggregate.  It was in the list until September 2019, when it was removed by [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries&oldid=918139977 this edit] due to infrequent updates.  It was put back in the list [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries&oldid=938049106 today], with no discussion. --[[User:Spiffy sperry|Spiffy sperry]] ([[User talk:Spiffy sperry|talk]]) 22:24, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

== John Kerry ==

Apparently Kerry is considering another campaign [https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/john-kerry-overheard-discussing-possible-2020-bid-amid-concern-sanders-n1128476]   [[User:Quvuq0737|Quvuq0737]] ([[User talk:Quvuq0737|talk]]) 21:53, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

He is categorically not. https://twitter.com/JohnKerry/status/1224088712058937344 --[[User:ZombieZombi|ZombieZombi]] ([[User talk:ZombieZombi|talk]]) 05:44, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

==Delaney==

Did Delaney withdraw before the primaries or during? This stage says he withdrew before, while the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries results page] says he withdrew during.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/184.176.46.59|184.176.46.59]] ([[User talk:184.176.46.59#top|talk]]) 21:51, 3 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I think we're counting him as withdrawing during the primaries; early voting already started by the time he dropped out. [[User:David O. Johnson|David O. Johnson]] ([[User talk:David O. Johnson|talk]]) 22:18, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

== Campaign finance section's table not sorting correctly, mislabeling of COH column ==

I never usually talk/edit on Wikipedia, so please forgive me if I do something wrong.
I don't know why, but Bloomberg, Buttigieg, Sanders, and Steyer are all at some point out of place what sorting by the different columns:
* Sanders, Bloomberg, and Steyer are at the bottom of the "Total raised" column, but they should be at the top
* Steyer and Sanders are 2nd and 3rd to bottom of "Total individual contributions," but they should be 17th and 1st respectively
* The same is true for "Unitemized individual contributions," where they should be 13th and 1st.
* Steyer and Bloomberg both have debt, but are among those without any in the "Debt" column (they have the 5th and 1st most debt)
* Steyer, Bloomberg, and Buttigieg are at the bottom of the "Spent" column, but they are 1st, 2nd, and 5th respectively
* Steyer and Bloomberg are 2nd and 3rd from the bottom with most "Cash on hand", but they are 6th and 4th
Also, the explanation of "COH" that appears when hovering the cursor over it still says October 15, 2019, but the information is from December 31, 2019 (according to the paragraph before).
[[User:SamuelBoshier|SamuelBoshier]] ([[User talk:SamuelBoshier|talk]]) 13:39, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

UPDATE: It was fixed at some point
[[User:SamuelBoshier|SamuelBoshier]] ([[User talk:SamuelBoshier|talk]]) 18:34, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

==Delegates, Percentage, Total Votes, Percentage==
The infobox is lacking the usual spot for percentage of delegates, which is the all-important number that CNN (and probably others, but I don't get a lot of channels) has been going by fairly exclusively in their coverage rather than the raw number of delegates. Was there a conscious decision to omit the delegate percentage from the infobox and instead insert the vote percentages? It's my thinking that percentages of both metrics should be fairly included. [[User:Omnibus|Omnibus]] ([[User talk:Omnibus|talk]]) 01:57, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

: Nevermind, I think I answered my own question. CNN is displaying state delegate equivalent (SDE) percentage, not overall primary delegate percentage. [[User:Omnibus|Omnibus]] ([[User talk:Omnibus|talk]]) 02:00, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2020 ==

{{edit semi-protected|2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries|answered=yes}}
Only show the candidates who have gained delegates in the info box. This is what has been done in past elections. [[Special:Contributions/162.129.251.87|162.129.251.87]] ([[User talk:162.129.251.87|talk]]) 02:15, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:I thought the general rule was >=5% of the total popular vote without regard for delegates. This is why Edwards is not listed in the 2008 infobox despite winning delegates in several states. --[[Special:Contributions/169.232.119.37|169.232.119.37]] ([[User talk:169.232.119.37|talk]]) 08:57, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:{{notdone}} This will likely be done eventually, but we don't actually know how many delegates each candidate won in the Iowa contest at this time. <span style="background-color:#0072de;font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Vanilla Wizard|<span style="color: white;">&nbsp;Vanilla&nbsp;</span>]]</span><span style="background-color:#743ba3;font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User Talk:Vanilla Wizard|<span style="color: white;">&nbsp;Wizard&nbsp;</span>]]</span> [[Special:Contributions/Vanilla Wizard|💙]]</span> 02:19, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

== 2020 Vote Totals/Delegates ==

Hi all. We've used Green Papers to report vote totals and delegate totals in the past for prior elections. Can we go ahead and add the vote totals and the delegate count to the info box and the article using this? Not sure why it hasn't been added already and I didn't want to add it if people had a discussion about this already. Here is the link: http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P20/D  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/192.40.129.20|192.40.129.20]] ([[User talk:192.40.129.20#top|talk]]) 14:55, 5 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:The problem is, is that the Green Papers' delegate numbers are preliminary in Iowa and are their estimate of the delegates is their own, not anyone else's. The whole Iowa debacle will probably not be repeated in Nevada and 80% of the rest of the states and territories are going to be primaries, so it doesn't really matter.This is a unique situation.[[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79|talk]])

== Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2020 ==

{{edit semi-protected|2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries|answered=Yes}}
In the Ballot Access table, please change the date of the Indiana Primary from May 12 to May 5 (source: https://www.in.gov/sos/elections/2403.htm) [[User:Poisiod|Poisiod]] ([[User talk:Poisiod|talk]]) 19:29, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:{{done}} --[[User:Spiffy sperry|Spiffy sperry]] ([[User talk:Spiffy sperry|talk]]) 20:02, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

== Planning for future election articles ==

At [[Talk:2020 Republican Party presidential primaries#A solution (IhopeIhopeIhope!!!!)|Talk:2020 Republican Party presidential primaries]], there has been some discussion of holding a [[WP:RFC|Request for Comment]] in November 2020, right after this year's election, to discuss what the criteria for being a major candidate should be. My thinking is that holding the discussion for 2024 before we know who the candidates will be should enable us to hold a more objective discussion, rather than trying to set the rules to include or exclude certain people from being considered major candidates. At this point, I'm just looking for support for the idea that we ought to hold such an RFC in November. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User talk:Metropolitan90|(talk)]] 05:22, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
::I don't think anyone's actually against that notion...[[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79|talk]]) 12:01, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
:::True, but I wanted to make sure that the editors who have been reading this talk page and not the talk page on the Republican side would know about this suggestion. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User talk:Metropolitan90|(talk)]] 14:32, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2020 ==

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:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:LakesideMiners|<b><span style="color:#32CD32">LakesideMiners</span></b>]]<sup>[[User_Talk:LakesideMiners|Come Talk To Me!]] </sup> 15:23, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2020 ==

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Under the Timeline section, remove declaration that Buttigieg won SDEs- per current NYT Upshot forecast it is unclear whether this is accurate pending final results. [[User:CheckeredYeti|CheckeredYeti]] ([[User talk:CheckeredYeti|talk]]) 19:09, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
:[[File:Yellow check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Partly done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Updated with the final results from two weeks later.  [[User:Eggishorn|Eggishorn]] [[User talk:Eggishorn|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Eggishorn|(contrib)]] 22:00, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

== Majority or proportional distribution? ==

I think this article should mention if majority or proportional distribution of delegates is used, or if it varies? 

Iowa looks to have local one delegate constituencies. How is it with the rest of the primaries?

I think it is so important it should be mentioned in the beginning of the article. If it varies be checked in the primaries table.
--[[User:Zzalpha|Zzalpha]] ([[User talk:Zzalpha|talk]]) 12:36, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Iowa is unique. Nevada is doing something like ranked-choice voting in a firehouse primary.  90% of everything else are primaries and will do a standard formula for statewide and congressional district distribution. I know that people are freaking out over Iowa's debacle, but reporting of results should be normal for the rest of the primary.[[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79|talk]]) 12:45, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

All primary states are proportional, but the delegates are allocated both on the statewide and congressional district levels with a 15% viability threshold.
[[User:CheckeredYeti|CheckeredYeti]] ([[User talk:CheckeredYeti|talk]]) 19:12, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

== Planning for the future of ''this'' article==
Please compare the 2016 article with this one. I know all about the clusterfork with the Iowa caucuses and all, but refusing to have results except for the upper right-hand corner isn't a good idea.  Why did the person take off the vote totals in the candidates' chart? Just wanting it to look nice as transclusion on the main election page just isn't enough. In fact, going forth, it's downright bad. 

We should totally revise the timeline. The "[[invisible primary]]" and debate seasons are over, and it should reflect that. Two paragraphs for until the debates started and four or five on the debates. more than half the candidates left the race during this time. I would do it myself had I not been sure that someone here would immediately revert it. 

We should divide the candidate chart to a top six and a bottom six. The top five people who got delegates (under the rules, Biden and Klobuchar got some) in Iowa, plus the two billionaires. The top boxes should look like this: 

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="2" style="width:150px;" | Candidate
! Most recent position 
! State
! Candidacy
! Total pledged delegates
! Contests won{{efn|name=pledged|According to popular vote or pledged delegate count (not counting superdelegates); see below for detail.}}
|-
| [[File:Bernie Sanders.jpg|120px]] <br /><big>'''{{nowrap|[[Bernie Sanders]]}}'''</big>
| style="background:#228B22;" |
| '''[[U.S. Senator]] from [[List of United States Senators from Vermont|Vermont]]'''<br/> (2007–present) 
| [[File:Flag of Vermont.svg|90x90px]]<br>[[Vermont]]
| [[File:Bernie Sanders 2016 logo.svg|120px]]<br/><small>([[Bernie Sanders presidential campaign, 2016|Campaign]] • [[Political positions of Bernie Sanders|Positions]])</small><small><br>[http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/533/15031422533/15031422533.pdf FEC Filing]</small>
| style="font-size:90%; padding:10px;" | 1846 / 4051 ({{percentage|1846|4051|0}})
| <!-- Contests won --> '''23''' <br/>{{nobr|[[Alaska Democratic caucuses, 2016|AK]], [[Colorado Democratic caucuses, 2016|CO]], [[Democrats Abroad primary, 2016|DA]], [[Hawaii Democratic caucuses, 2016|HI]],}}<br/>{{nobr|[[Idaho Democratic caucuses, 2016|ID]], [[Indiana Democratic primary, 2016|IN]], [[Kansas Democratic caucuses, 2016|KS]], [[Maine Democratic caucuses, 2016|ME]],}}<br/>{{nobr|[[Michigan Democratic primary, 2016|MI]], [[Minnesota Democratic caucuses, 2016|MN]], [[Montana Democratic primary, 2016|MT]], [[Nebraska Democratic caucuses, 2016|NE]],{{efn|Hillary Clinton won the non-binding Nebraska Democratic Primary.}}}}<br/>{{nobr|[[New Hampshire Democratic primary, 2016|NH]], [[North Dakota Democratic caucuses, 2016|ND]], [[Oklahoma Democratic primary, 2016|OK]], [[Oregon Democratic primary, 2016|OR]], }}<br/>{{nobr|[[Rhode Island Democratic presidential primary, 2016|RI]], [[Utah Democratic caucuses, 2016|UT]], [[Vermont Democratic primary, 2016|VT]], [[Washington Democratic caucuses, 2016|WA]],{{efn|Hillary Clinton won the non-binding Washington Democratic Primary.}}}}<br/>{{nobr|[[Wisconsin Democratic primary, 2016|WI]], [[West Virginia Democratic primary, 2016|WV]], [[Wyoming Democratic caucuses, 2016|WY]]{{efn|name=split}} }}
|}


Take the "people who were mentioned but didn't run" section OFF the page and transfer it to the "candidates" 
page. The "but it's transcluded" argument doesn't hold water.  Transferring the data is easy and we don't need it ''here'' anymore. We don't need the "ballot access" section either. The reason I put it there (as I've said countless times) is so the casual reader would know the state of the race at a glance. The 11 candidates who are still running are on every ballot, so it's now unnecessary. Get rid of it. 

Make the "Primary and caucus calendar" the UPCOMING " Primary and caucus calendar" and get rid of ones that are about to or have already taken place. We don't need to know when the Iowa caucuses will be once they are over. People mark off calendars all the time and so should we. Once they are over, get rid of the section entirely. I've been trying to do this but keep getting reverted. 

Remember, until the primaries are over in June, the article is fluid. There is no reason to keep it as it was prior to the voting. [[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79|talk]]) 12:27, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
*While I understand your interest in restructuring the article, I don't agree with all of these suggestions. IN particular, it's not true that the 11 candidates who are still running are on every ballot. Bennet and Patrick missed 3 upcoming ballots, and even if we don't care because we expect them to drop out shortly, there are also the facts that Bloomberg skipped the next 3 ballots and won't be on the ballot anywhere until Super Tuesday, and Yang missed the Ohio ballot. We should leave the ballot access table in place; we don't have a space limit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User talk:Metropolitan90|(talk)]] 14:37, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

This article is becoming rather difficult to navigate. We should probably transclude some of the sections similar to what we have for Political Positions.[[User:Dobbyelf62|Dobbyelf62]] ([[User talk:Dobbyelf62|talk]]) 02:48, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Tell me about it. @Met90, by gradually turning the ballot access chart into a results chart, that problem would be solved. As to Bloomberg, he's spending more money in New Hampshire (okay, eastern Vermont and Boston Metro), than Biden is, and some polls show him at six to eight percent. Write-ins are popular in NH and always have been. 
So leave him with a "no" on the chart for those two and for those where Yang and Bennet aren't on the ballot. [[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79|talk]]) 13:18, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

== Having Biden’s photo as the main pic of this page is biased ==

I think a picture of something else or of more of the candidates (say at a debate) would be more appropriate and fair. [[User:Reverseinterrobang|Reverseinterrobang]] ([[User talk:Reverseinterrobang|talk]]) 19:03, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
: Unless you add a random image, Biden will be the image preview as he is the first image (in the infobox). Whoever wins Iowa will likely be the preview.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:NebuchadnezzarHammurabi|NebuchadnezzarHammurabi]] ([[User talk:NebuchadnezzarHammurabi#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NebuchadnezzarHammurabi|contribs]]) 01:44, 3 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:: Why is Biden's picture still first, even though his photo is not first in the article? --[[User:ZombieZombi|ZombieZombi]] ([[User talk:ZombieZombi|talk]]) 17:28, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

==Info-Box on candidates==  

I always thought the Wiki-rule about candidates on a current election article is that they have to be polling at an average of 5% to be allowed in the info box. As of today: Gabbard, Yang, Steyer, and Klobuchar are polling below 5% nationally. "Real Clear Politics", "NY Times", "CNN" among numerous others don't have them polling at a consistent 5%. Because if we include them why aren't we including Patrick or Bennet?(They're also major candidates still in the race.) Excuse my stupid edit, it was just an accident from not paying attention. [[User:Benjamin.P.L|Benjamin.P.L]] ([[User talk:Benjamin.P.L|talk]]) 23:05, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

: Can you link to the Wiki-rule? I do agree that there should be a cutoff, whether it be 3%, 5%, 7%, etc. People like [[Tulsi Gabbard]] aren't serious candidates at this point. [[User:Omnibus|Omnibus]] ([[User talk:Omnibus|talk]]) 02:03, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:: I know it has been debated a lot in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Elections_and_Referendums/Archive_12#RfC_on_5%_threshold past], but I can't find the specific rule. I know it applies after the election, but I was under the assumption it also applied during, IE:After an election any candidate that recessives more than 5% of the vote may be included in the info box:(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_threshold) Its been debated before as what qualifies as a "major candidate" so hundreds of people aren't in to info-box before an election. Give me sometime and I'll see if I can find the thread or article that mentions the cutoff/threshold as being 5% polling before the election to be included. [[User:Benjamin.P.L|Benjamin.P.L]] ([[User talk:Benjamin.P.L|talk]]) 02:42, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
:::This doesn't seem like the right time to implement that rule; as an example, Yang got 5% in Iowa by first alignment (the closest thing we have to a popular vote there), yet he's polling well below 5% nationally, as mentioned at the top of this thread. Bloomberg is also not even running in early states yet polls very well nationally. Discrepancies like these make a this rule difficult to implement so soon, as any implementation of it will feel arbitrary. [[User:GrapevinePoly|GrapevinePoly]] ([[User talk:GrapevinePoly|talk]]) 01:06, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
:::: Yang shouldn't even be included in the info-box not receiving more than %5 in the first round of voting...[[User:Benjamin.P.L|Benjamin.P.L]] ([[User talk:Benjamin.P.L|talk]]) 22:22, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

== Current vs Estimated ==

Shouldn't the sidebar say "Current delegate count" rather than "Estimated delegate count"? It sounds like it's estimating what the total is going to be right now. [[User:Nablais|Nablais]] ([[User talk:Nablais|talk]]) 22:16, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

== What an absurd mess ==
This whole article is such a mess full of non-encyclopedic nonsense and pointless charts that it is possibly even non-NPOV by being an intentional mess. That's how bad it is. For comparison, the 1992 Democratic Primary article is easy to read and presents only the relevant information for a quick reference.[[Special:Contributions/2601:1C0:CD00:184D:85EB:3E5D:8756:1327|2601:1C0:CD00:184D:85EB:3E5D:8756:1327]] ([[User talk:2601:1C0:CD00:184D:85EB:3E5D:8756:1327|talk]]) 07:47, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

I've been trying to do that, but we're at the midpoint of the primary (the debates have been going on for a year almost), we're going to have even more of it and there's little we can do. There are three more contests before Super Tuesday. You all can help improve it by turning the timeline from 2017 through the January Iowa debate into about nine or ten succinct paragraphs telling the story of what happened. How the debates worked, how half a dozen candidates were forced out, and the like. I've been advocating a schedule for making major changes and how to do it for the entire season. As to 1992, that predates Wikipedia. The readership/editorship wasn't following it in real-time, and thus, there was a beginning to end narrative that could be planned out beforehand. 

This is different. Nobody could have predicted what a mess Iowa would become, or that Biden would totally crash (the latest tracking polls in New Hampshire show him falling like a rock and Mayor Pete catching up to Sanders.), so there is conflict among the editors. [[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79|talk]]) 13:00, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

The other articles list the candidates first. The 2016 Democratic Primary page also has the polling section just above the Campaign Finance Section. To clean things up, we should cut the Declined to be Candidates section and heavily prune the list of events underneath the timeline. We already have a visual representation of when candidates entered and exited the race. This page is long enough.[[User:Dobbyelf62|Dobbyelf62]] ([[User talk:Dobbyelf62|talk]]) 19:52, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:Completely agree, there needs to be two articles, one on the race, one on the primaries. The title of this article indicates it's about the primaries, but the actual information relevant to the title is deeply buried. [[User:Citicat|<b><span style="color:#FF0000;">Citi</span><span style="color:#151B8D;">Cat</span></b>]]<small>[[User_talk:Citicat|<sup style="color:#000000;"> ♫</sup>]]</small> 19:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

I have tried on several occasions to transfer (not transclude) the "declined to be candidates" section to the candidates' page. You will notice that there is one now. We don't need it here and we need it there. Someone should (I've tried and have always been reverted by the usual suspects) to cut down the 2019 timeline section to a five-paragraph narrative entitled "debate season," condensing the debates article, or something like that. [[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79|talk]]) 03:00, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
:Use the popular vote to determine the winner, or have one map for the popular vote winner and one for the winner of the most delegates. [[User:Prcc27|Prcc27]] ([[User talk:Prcc27|talk]]) 04:01, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
::In primaries, the popular vote winner is the delegate winner. Iowa is unique in that it isn't.[[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79|talk]]) 11:14, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

== Iowa Primary ==

AP and other official orgs. call the primary based off of SDE's, therfore the iowa primary currently should be marked as won by buttigieg rather than sanders. Furthermore i recommend adding "Contests Won" in the box as a stat for all candidates. The main concern however is misinformation about iowa.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:John12082020|John12082020]] ([[User talk:John12082020#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/John12082020|contribs]]) 16:22, 7 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:We don't have 100% of precincts reporting yet. Nobody should be declared the winner yet. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 16:43, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::I feel at least no winner should be marked then-- at present it looks like bernie won on the page, which if in agreement with you is inaccurate [[User:John12082020|John12082020]] ([[User talk:John12082020|talk]]) 16:56, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::Now we have 100% of precincts, can we please get the Bernie people off and mark Buttigieg as the winner already?? [[Special:Contributions/165.127.14.19|165.127.14.19]] ([[User talk:165.127.14.19|talk]]) 16:51, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Wikipedia is not in the business of declaring winners prior to announcements from reliable sources.  --[[User:Spiffy sperry|Spiffy sperry]] ([[User talk:Spiffy sperry|talk]]) 17:04, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::::Correct, So can someone change the map to make iowa gray again rather than green[[User:John12082020|John12082020]] ([[User talk:John12082020|talk]]) 17:08, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::The map will show the results of both primaries and caucuses. If we choose to use the SDEs to show who won a caucus, two different methods will be used to determine who won a race, depending on if it was a caucus or a primary. I believe that this would be very confusing, especially as this article is not meant as an in depth discussion of who won a certain caucus, but rather to provide people with a quick overview of the primaries. Therefore, we should only use one measure for all races so that the results remain easily understandable. As there are no SDEs in primaries and there is also no second alignment, I suggest we use the first-instance vote for both caucuses and primaries, as the first-instance vote is the only measure which we can apply to both types of races (primaries and caucuses). Alternatively, we could use the delegate count which is also applicable to both types of races. However, the delegate count can also be confusing as not all delegates carry the same vote (democrats abroad have 1/2 a vote). Therefore, I believe we should use the first-instance vote as it gives the clearest indication who won a contest.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.98.235.10|89.98.235.10]] ([[User talk:89.98.235.10#top|talk]]) 17:50, 7 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::::::The clearest indication of who won a contest is the number of pledged delegates won, and the map should reflect a tie if necessary (preferably striped lines, showing which candidates tied). If a candidate wins most delegates but not the popular vote, it can and should be noted, but winning a contest within a state is really a measure of the delegates they received. This metric can easily be applied to primaries and caucuses alike. Even while some contests' delegates' votes are worth less, it doesn't really matter for the purposes of the map; it's not like every state has the same number of delegates either. If it is enough of an issue that first-instance votes and delegate allocations do not match up, we could make a separate map for each. [[User:Cookieo131|Cookieo131]] ([[User talk:Cookieo131|talk]]) 18:26, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Sanders wins the most votes, but Buttigieg wins the most delegates? [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 19:12, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:Sanders received the most votes on both the initial and final alignment. He is the winner.[[User:Dobbyelf62|Dobbyelf62]] ([[User talk:Dobbyelf62|talk]]) 19:42, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::The popular vote does not necessarily determine who gets the most delegates to the national convention. National convention delegates are the important metric because they are the people who elect the party’s nominee.[[User:Michelangelo1992|Michelangelo1992]] ([[User talk:Michelangelo1992|talk]]) 20:02, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Delegates are what determine the winner and they always have been in past primaries. Pete gets 13 delegates and Bernie 1 according to the Associated Press. Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral so someone please reflect Pete as the winner (I'm personally a Sanders supporter). [[Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:BDA0:34:18C7:110D:D0BD:DDB|2607:FEA8:BDA0:34:18C7:110D:D0BD:DDB]] ([[User talk:2607:FEA8:BDA0:34:18C7:110D:D0BD:DDB|talk]]) 19:46, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:If you look at the [[2016 Democratic Party presidential primaries]] page, you'll see that there are two maps: one for "first place by first-instance voting" and another for "first place finishes by convention roll call". By the first metric, Sanders won by a comfortable margin.[[User:Dobbyelf62|Dobbyelf62]] ([[User talk:Dobbyelf62|talk]]) 19:56, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::Why not add two maps then? One for National delegates/convention roll call, and one for popular vote? However, if we are going to have only a single map in the info box I think it should show winners by national delegates, with stripes for tied states. Popular vote is an important metric, but it ultimately doesn’t get the nominee elected at conventions. The national delegates do that. I don’t believe that reliable sources have called an Iowa winner by national delegates yet, so my preference would be to leave the map blank for now.[[User:Michelangelo1992|Michelangelo1992]] ([[User talk:Michelangelo1992|talk]]) 19:59, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Two maps would be appropriate. Not sure if we should call the winner for either counts yet though. There doesn't appear to be a clear winner universally agreed upon.[[User:Dobbyelf62|Dobbyelf62]] ([[User talk:Dobbyelf62|talk]]) 20:05, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

:::I agree, two maps would be the best solution (and would appease all sides). One map showing winner by most "National pledged delegates". And another by popular vote. Does someone want to add this? [[Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:BDA0:34:18C7:110D:D0BD:DDB|2607:FEA8:BDA0:34:18C7:110D:D0BD:DDB]] ([[User talk:2607:FEA8:BDA0:34:18C7:110D:D0BD:DDB|talk]]) 20:33, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:::And Bernie is clearly the popular vote leader. Pete is leading National delegates 13/12 so I would put him as the winner in terms of national delegates according to the AP (if it changes we can always change the results). [[Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:BDA0:34:18C7:110D:D0BD:DDB|2607:FEA8:BDA0:34:18C7:110D:D0BD:DDB]] ([[User talk:2607:FEA8:BDA0:34:18C7:110D:D0BD:DDB|talk]]) 20:35, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::: This seems like the best approach [[User:Connor Lovatt|Connor Lovatt]] ([[User talk:Connor Lovatt|talk]]) 20:43, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::::I put in a blank map for national pledged delegates. Not perfect, but at least the formatting is basically there.[[User:Dobbyelf62|Dobbyelf62]] ([[User talk:Dobbyelf62|talk]]) 20:44, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Hold up. Iowa is the only state with this system. We do not need to add an additional national map for ''one state'' with a skewed result. SDEs are used to determine the winner in Iowa; regardless of whether that ''should'' be the case, it is. It certainly should be noted in the article that Sanders received more votes in Iowa, but for better or for worse, in this country, more votes does not a winner make. --[[User:WMSR|WMSR]] ([[User talk:WMSR|talk]]) 21:06, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Then I think we should just keep the national pledged delegate winner map then. This is the most relevant map as delegates are what will eventually select the nominee. [[User:Connor Lovatt|Connor Lovatt]] ([[User talk:Connor Lovatt|talk]]) 21:18, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::::Iowa may be the only state with its specific system, but with delegates being awarded based both on the statewide total and by congressional district, the winner of the most delegates may differ from the winner of the popular vote in other contests, so it is still appropriate to have two separate maps.--[[User:Tdl1060|Tdl1060]] ([[User talk:Tdl1060|talk]]) 01:35, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::The odds of that happening in any other state are slim to none. And if it does, the number of delegates is really the only important number here. The total popular vote will still be recorded. --[[User:WMSR|WMSR]] ([[User talk:WMSR|talk]]) 02:00, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
::::: I agree. The nominee is chosen based on delegate count. While this will likely be the popular vote winner, the delegate count is the official number that matters. A map of the primary should show the delegate winner of each state. [[User:TheSubmarine|TheSubmarine]] ([[User talk:TheSubmarine|talk]]) 02:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::In favor of a 3 map solution, one for first instance vote as has been the precedent on Wikipedia for primaries, one for national level delegate allocation, and in the future a convention role call vote map which would be added with the convention role call. I think this is the best solution as 1) it's what has been done [[2016 Republican Party presidential primaries|in the past]] and 2) convention role call is really what selects the nominee and that has also been the precedent in the past. [[User:Bandersenbrian|Bandersenbrian]] ([[User talk:Bandersenbrian|talk]]) 15:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::Also until the deadline for a recanvass passes I do not think we should have any maps on this page to avoid confusion. [[User:Bandersenbrian|Bandersenbrian]] ([[User talk:Bandersenbrian|talk]]) 15:42, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Exactly. Why would we only have one map..? Both the popular vote and the delegate count are important and relevant, so there should be a map for *both*. [[User:Prcc27|Prcc27]] ([[User talk:Prcc27|talk]]) 04:04, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::I agree, and even if only Iowa has a discrepancy between popular vote and pledged delegates, that should still be cataloged through using multiple maps. [[User:Devonian Wombat|Devonian Wombat]] ([[User talk:Devonian Wombat|talk]]) 20:30, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
I agree with many of the above comments that displaying multiple maps is the best & most informative decision. In 2016, a map displaying the first place winner of the popular vote was the only map until the convention as the winner of the popular vote in any given state was also the winner of the greatest number of pledged delegates. A second map was then added after the convention when there was a difference between the winner of the most pledged delegates & the winner of the most delegates overall, as the superdelegates changed the winner of several states. The original pledged delegate map remained in the infobox despite the fact that it no longer was the map that mattered in the end when the winner was determined. We certainly should use more than one map in the infobox. There's precedent to do so and it simply helps the reader to have more data at a glance. <b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Vanilla Wizard|<b style="background-color:#07d;color:#FFF">&nbsp;Vanilla </b>]][[User Talk:Vanilla Wizard|<b style="background-color:#749;color:#FFF">&nbsp;Wizard </b>]]</b> [[Special:Contribs/Vanilla Wizard|💙]] 07:35, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

== Why on Page Previews J.Biden face is shown as 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries image? ==

On Page Previews J.Biden face is shown as 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries image instead of Democratic Party flag.
Can anyone edit the page and fix this? --[[User:Filippos|Filippos]] ([[User talk:Filippos|talk]]) 21:01, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
:Just because the preview automatically shows the first image in the article, and the images at the top of this article are the candidates currently polling above a certain threshold (or just the nine currently highest-polling candidates) in order of average current polling figures, and Biden currently has the highest average polling figures. Presumably, after the Iowa caucuses, they'll be in order of who currently has the most delegates pledged to them, which of course may well no longer be Biden, or it may still be him, or it may be someone else initially and then he may win more in states with later primaries and become the first picture again, or vice versa, until either one candidate wins the nomination at the convention or one candidate becomes the presumptive nominee before the convention, if they already have a majority of pledged delegates or if all the other candidates have suspended their campaigns, etc., after which that person's picture will be the first one in the article and will probably not change again. [[User:Adam Dent|Adam Dent]] ([[User talk:Adam Dent|talk]]) 08:50, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I had assumed that Biden's picture was the default because it was the first picture in the article, which it was for some reasonable reason before the results; however, now the pictures are ordered by delegates and ones with the same numbers of delegates are ordered by popular vote (which is definitely how they should be now that some results are sort of in), which puts Buttigieg first followed by Sanders etc., but Biden's face is somehow still the one I'm seeing in big at the top on mobile. Why is that then, and how do we fix it? [[User:Adam Dent|Adam Dent]] ([[User talk:Adam Dent|talk]]) 06:10, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

It seems that Biden cannot be fixed :) [[User:Filippos|Filippos]] ([[User talk:Filippos|talk]]) 18:36, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

:PagePreview takes image for a preview from page's basic information ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries?action=info for example]) which is supplied by PageImages and the latter [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageImages#Image_choice uses certain algorithm to detect what image should be taken].    So if image of the Democratic Party flag should be shown as page preview image, it has to be in the first four images of this article and at the same time has to have greater score by PageImages algorithm than other three images. [[User:A.I.K.|A.I.K.]] ([[User talk:A.I.K.|talk]]) 21:38, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

::I purged the page's cache, and now the preview image is the state-winners map. I'm not sure if this is because of my purge or if someone else had changed it by some other means before I refreshed. Either way, we're no longer stuck with Biden. [[User:Adam Dent|Adam Dent]] ([[User talk:Adam Dent|talk]]) 09:54, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
:::I did the same thing for the Iowa caucuses article and it still has Biden, so it must not have been me on this one. Anyway, as I say, someone has fixed it for this article. [[User:Adam Dent|Adam Dent]] ([[User talk:Adam Dent|talk]]) 09:59, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

==request for March 4 RFD==
I was kind of expecting this...what I'd like to do is have a discussion on the day after super Tuesday to figure out what exactly do we want this article to look like on June the first and beyond. We will know on that day whether or not the race will be over or there will be an epic battle going all the way to the convention. We don't know that now. 

I've had problems with the Republican side of things. They still want to make it seem like it's a competitive race and that Trump could still lose in the places he's running uncontested. We should have it out about how to design the entire series on the subject. What do we want everything to look like come summer...or even November.  March 4th will be great because we will be able to see things clearly. [[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79|talk]]) 03:14, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
:Sounds like an exercise in [[WP:CRYSTAL]]. We'll have to wait and see what the situation is at the time and report accordingly. -- [[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) 22:06, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

== Schedule and Results ==

When will the Schedule and Results section be added?  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/50.67.13.101|50.67.13.101]] ([[User talk:50.67.13.101#top|talk]]) 06:12, 12 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:There is already a schedule section at [[2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries#Primary and caucus calendar]], and the results are at [[Results of the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries]]. --[[User:Spiffy sperry|Spiffy sperry]] ([[User talk:Spiffy sperry|talk]]) 06:21, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
::Maybe there should be a See also section for the results, like the Republican party primaries article has.[[User:David O. Johnson|David O. Johnson]] ([[User talk:David O. Johnson|talk]]) 06:43, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
:::I think that a see also section is a good idea. [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 06:47, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
:::: I added it.[[User:David O. Johnson|David O. Johnson]] ([[User talk:David O. Johnson|talk]]) 07:34, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2020 ==

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The winner of the Iowa Caucus was a tie between Sanders and Pete. Can you add that to the map? Please. [[Special:Contributions/2601:401:C401:9850:3981:7E1C:6624:4D12|2601:401:C401:9850:3981:7E1C:6624:4D12]] ([[User talk:2601:401:C401:9850:3981:7E1C:6624:4D12|talk]]) 12:27, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
:{{notdone}} The subsection above this one is currently discussing this topic. It will be done if a consensus is reached there. <b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Vanilla Wizard|<b style="background-color:#07d;color:#FFF">&nbsp;Vanilla </b>]][[User Talk:Vanilla Wizard|<b style="background-color:#749;color:#FFF">&nbsp;Wizard </b>]]</b> [[Special:Contribs/Vanilla Wizard|💙]] 16:27, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

== Wording in Timeline section ==

Hello,

I was wondering why for Andrew Yang and Michael Bennet dropping out it says, "drops out of the race following poor performances in Iowa and New Hampshire." but for all other candidates (including Deval Patrick, who competed in both Iowa and New Hampshire) it says, "[Candidate X] dropped out of the race." Thank you!  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:CarlosDanger2024|CarlosDanger2024]] ([[User talk:CarlosDanger2024#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CarlosDanger2024|contribs]]) 19:15, 12 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The media coverage around Sanders and Bennet dropping out specified their poor performances in Iowa and New Hampshire as the reason for doing so, but you are right, the same sentence should be added to the bit about Deval Patrick dropping out. [[User:Devonian Wombat|Devonian Wombat]] ([[User talk:Devonian Wombat|talk]]) 20:41, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

== Why has the map been updated to show Sanders as the winner of NH? ==

The map should show a tie! [[User:Connor Lovatt|Connor Lovatt]] ([[User talk:Connor Lovatt|talk]]) 11:33, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
:What we should do is create two maps, one for national pledged delegates and one for popular vote, as was done in the 2016 primaries page and was supposed to have happened here as well, but no-one has gotten around to it yet. Until someone does, the map should be left as status quo, since labelling Pete and Sanders as having tied would not be an accurate way of portraying the coverage of the New Hampshire primary. [[User:Devonian Wombat|Devonian Wombat]] ([[User talk:Devonian Wombat|talk]]) 11:40, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

:: I edited the map earlier today to show Sanders as a winner, when I have a bit of time I'll make sure to add a second one to separate results by popular vote VS. pledged delegates. [[User:Antihorarios|Antihorarios]] ([[User talk:Antihorarios|talk]]) 14:32, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Sanders was called as the winner of New Hampshire, although the delegate count was tied. If someone wants to make a map for popular vote finishes and a map for pledged delegate totals then that's fine. [[User:Jjj1238|<b style="color: #AB2B2B;">{ [ ( jjj</b>]] [[User talk:Jjj1238|<b style="color: #000000;">1238 ) ] }</b>]] 14:38, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
::::That's what I meant to do, however it seems I can't actually edit the page as it's semi-protected. Even though I've contributed to the Spanish Wikipedia it seems that's not enough to let me edit the source. [[User:Antihorarios|Antihorarios]] ([[User talk:Antihorarios|talk]]) 14:40, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::Agreed 100% on two maps.  Pledged delegate total is more important for the nomination since the Democratic Party's delegate system isn't winner-take-all.  Especially after Super Tuesday we'll get into "cold, hard reality of the delegate math" being way more important.[[User:Froo|Froo]] ([[User talk:Froo|talk]]) 14:51, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

::::::I have uploaded a map by first-instance vote over at [[Media:Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries_results_by_first_instance_vote,_2020.svg]], if anyone would be so kind as to add it to the article I would appreciate it. [[User:Antihorarios|Antihorarios]] ([[User talk:Antihorarios|talk]]) 14:56, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::::I added it (not without a lot of confusion over how on my part), but the NH delegate total is still incorrect and I cannot figure out how to portray a tie so someone still has to do that. [[User:Devonian Wombat|Devonian Wombat]] ([[User talk:Devonian Wombat|talk]]) 20:36, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Why is it first instance vote instead of popular vote? I believe it would convey itself better if the map says popular vote instead of first instance vote.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:PauldGOAT13|PauldGOAT13]] ([[User talk:PauldGOAT13#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PauldGOAT13|contribs]]) 22:27, 12 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::::::::The best solution for the pledged delegate map would probably to have alternating coloured stripes to indicate that NH was a tie between Sanders/Buttigieg, if we can figure out how to do that.  I sure don't know how.  Otherwise, listing it simply as a tie leaves the question of "who tied?".--[[User:Darryl Kerrigan|Darryl Kerrigan]] ([[User talk:Darryl Kerrigan|talk]]) 22:30, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::Good work.  I see this has now been done.--[[User:Darryl Kerrigan|Darryl Kerrigan]] ([[User talk:Darryl Kerrigan|talk]]) 22:35, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Buttigieg and Sanders have the same amount of pledged delegates according to Wikipedia article of 2020 New Hampshire Democratic primary. Yet according to the map, first place by pledged delegates was given to Sanders. Why?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Sashawindowless|Sashawindowless]] ([[User talk:Sashawindowless#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sashawindowless|contribs]]) 10:51, 12 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Semi-protected edit request on 13 February 2020 ==

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Please move the check mark in the Northern Mariana Islands row of the ballot access table from Sanders' column to Steyer's. This is consistent with the source and the alt-text, but I think someone accidentally misaligned it.

Also the row arguably gives the impression that Steyer will be the only candidate on the ballot in the CNMI, but I can't find an official source that lists the candidates there. Maybe a tweet from one campaign isn't a sufficient source? I don't know. [[Special:Contributions/209.249.12.13|209.249.12.13]] ([[User talk:209.249.12.13|talk]]) 03:01, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
:Done! [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 04:34, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

== Map ==

Sanders and Buttigieg tied for national delegates. Shouldn't the map reflect that?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:SouthwestChief90|SouthwestChief90]] ([[User talk:SouthwestChief90#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SouthwestChief90|contribs]]) 14:57, 12 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:There should be two maps, one showing popular vote result and one showing pledged delegate results. Does anyone know how to color a state in as being striped to show a tie, ie NH in delegates? [[User:Cookieo131|Cookieo131]] ([[User talk:Cookieo131|talk]]) 18:09, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
::I agree, there should be a map for first instance vote and for delegate allocation, just like there is on the wiki page for the republican primaries of 2016. --[[User:HoxtonLyubov|HoxtonLyubov]] ([[User talk:HoxtonLyubov|talk]]) 20:15, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Why is it called "first instance vote" instead of "popular vote"? I believe it would be more clear about what the map is saying if it said "popular vote".  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:PauldGOAT13|PauldGOAT13]] ([[User talk:PauldGOAT13#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PauldGOAT13|contribs]]) 22:22, 12 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::::Because it's called "first-instance vote" in all previous articles. [[User:Antihorarios|Antihorarios]] ([[User talk:Antihorarios|talk]]) 00:57, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::That's not a good reason. If it's more confusing, we should change it.—[[User:Naddruf|<u>Naddruf</u>]] ([[User talk:Naddruf|''talk'']] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Naddruf|'''contribs''']]) 02:00, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
:We need the map to be like the one on the 2016 page where it has the winner and the number of delegates they won, as well as colored circles with each of the other candidates to get delegates.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:PauldGOAT13|PauldGOAT13]] ([[User talk:PauldGOAT13#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PauldGOAT13|contribs]]) 19:36, 12 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

the first instance vote should be determined by State Delegate Equivalents, which Buttigieg is presently leading and in line with past primaries. Therefore, while Sanders won the popular vote in Iowa, he is trailing Buttigieg in terms of first instance vote in Iowa. [[User:Pyruvate|Pyruvate]] ([[User talk:Pyruvate|talk]]) 05:40, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

:There should be two separate maps! One for first-instance vote and one for national delegates. Who keeps changing it back from something that makes a ton of sense?? [[User:Beccabecco|Beccabecco]] ([[User talk:Beccabecco|talk]]) 16:16, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
:: I think there is a separate discussion going on in the template talk page. I can’t link because I am on mobile, but we should combine the discussions. [[User:Michelangelo1992|Michelangelo1992]] ([[User talk:Michelangelo1992|talk]]) 17:03, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

:::Here's a link to that discussion: [[Template_talk:2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries#Maps]].[[User:David O. Johnson|David O. Johnson]] ([[User talk:David O. Johnson|talk]]) 17:17, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

:First instance voting refers to popular vote, it wouldn't make sense to show the winner of every state by popular vote but have Iowa (and I believe Nevada?) show popular vote differently. However if Buttigieg is declared the winner it should show up as such in a national delegate map. [[User:Antihorarios|Antihorarios]] ([[User talk:Antihorarios|talk]]) 17:15, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

== RfC participation invitation ==
'''?''' : Please participate in the [[Talk:2020 Iowa Democratic caucuses#RfC_about_change_proposal_for_infobox_for_caucus_results|RfC about change proposal for infobox for caucus results]]. [[User:Xenagoras|Xenagoras]] ([[User talk:Xenagoras|talk]]) 21:28, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

==Gabbard+?==
Where are the results for Tulsi Gabbard and the other candidates?  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.75.145.253|74.75.145.253]] ([[User talk:74.75.145.253#top|talk]]) 23:47, 13 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:It's here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries] (there's a link in this article in the Results section).[[User:David O. Johnson|David O. Johnson]] ([[User talk:David O. Johnson|talk]]) 23:58, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

== Map in Infobox is incorrect ==

The map marked "first place by pledged delegates" shows New Hampshire being won by Sanders, but he tied with Buttigieg.[[User:Wikiditm|Wikiditm]] ([[User talk:Wikiditm|talk]]) 21:02, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
:Fixed. [[User:Michelangelo1992|Michelangelo1992]] ([[User talk:Michelangelo1992|talk]]) 00:15, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

== Ballot access table ==

At [[2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries#Ballot access]], We have been removing columns for candidates who drop out of the race, which I believe has been the correct thing to do. However, I don't think we want to keep doing that after the caucuses and primaries actually start. Otherwise, by early June we might wind up with columns for only one candidate and "Other" to cover everyone else. I suggest we set a deadline that we will remove the column from the "Ballot access" table only if the person withdraws from the race before 7 PM Central Time, February 3, which is when the Iowa caucus begins. After that, we leave the column in place. (If we want to consider using a different symbol or color to indicate that the candidate is still on the ballot but has withdrawn, that should be fine with me.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User talk:Metropolitan90|(talk)]] 16:27, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:I suggest having the names of candidates italicized and moved to the right end of the table, sorted from right to left by order of dropping out (yellow arrows only used as placeholders, perhaps we can decide on a unique symbol/color later): — [[User:Tony Patt|Tony Patt]] <small>([[User talk:Tony Patt|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tony Patt|contribs]])</small> 19:05, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

{| class="wikitable sortable" style=margin:auto;margin:auto
|+Primaries and Caucuses
|-valign=bottom
! State/<br>Territory
! Date
! {{vert header|stp=1|Biden}}
! {{vert header|stp=1|Bloomberg}}
! {{vert header|stp=1|Buttigieg}}
! {{vert header|stp=1|Sanders}}
! {{vert header|stp=1|Warren}}

! {{vert header|stp=1|''Yang''}}
! {{vert header|stp=1|''Steyer''}}
! {{vert header|stp=1|''Klobuchar''}}
! {{vert header|stp=1|''Gabbard''}}
! {{vert header|stp=1|''Bennet''}}
! {{vert header|stp=1|''Patrick''}}
! {{vert header|stp=1|Other}}
! Ref
|-
! [[2020 New Hampshire Democratic primary|NH]]
| {{Dts|2020|02|11|format=md|abbr=on}} || {{ya|Biden–Yes}} || {{na|Bloomberg–No}} || {{ya|Buttigieg–Yes}} || {{ya|Sanders-Yes}} || {{ya|Warren-Yes}} || {{ya|Yang-Yes}} || {{ya|Steyer-Yes}} || {{ya|Klobuchar-Yes}} || {{ya|Gabbard-Yes}} || {{ya|Bennet–Yes}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{ya|Other–Yes}} || 
|-
! [[2020 Nevada Democratic caucuses|NV]]
| {{Dts|2020|02|22|format=md|abbr=on}} || {{ya|Biden–Yes}} || {{na|Bloomberg–No}} || {{ya|Buttigieg–Yes}} || {{ya|Sanders–Yes}} || {{ya|Warren-Yes}} || {{ya|Klobuchar–Yes}} || {{ya|Patrick–Yes}} || {{ya|Sanders–Yes}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{ya|Other-Yes}} || 
|-
! [[2020 South Carolina Democratic primary|SC]]
| {{Dts|2020|02|29|format=md|abbr=on}} || {{ya|Biden–Yes}} || {{na|Bloomberg–No}} || {{ya|Buttigieg–Yes}} || {{ya|Sanders–Yes}} || {{ya|Warren-Yes}} || {{ya|Klobuchar–Yes}} || {{ya|Patrick–Yes}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{na|Other–No}}|| 
|-
! [[2020 Alabama Democratic primary|AL]]
| {{Dts|2020|03|03|format=md|abbr=on}} || {{ya|Biden–Yes}} || {{ya|Bloomberg–Yes}} || {{ya|Buttigieg–Yes}}  || {{ya|Sanders–Yes}} || {{ya|Warren-Yes}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{na|Patrick–No}} || {{ya|Other–Yes}} || 
|-
! [[2020 Arkansas Democratic primary|AR]]
| {{Dts|2020|03|03|format=md|abbr=on}} || {{ya|Biden–Yes}} || {{ya|Bloomberg–Yes}} || {{ya|Buttigieg–Yes}} || {{ya|Sanders–Yes}} || {{ya|Warren-Yes}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{na|Patrick–No}} || {{ya|Other–Yes}} || 
|-
! [[2020 California Democratic primary|CA]]
| {{Dts|2020|03|03|format=md|abbr=on}} || {{ya|Biden–Yes}} || {{ya|Bloomberg–Yes}} || {{ya|Buttigieg–Yes}} || {{ya|Sanders–Yes}} || {{ya|Warren-Yes}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{MaybeCheck}} || {{ya|Other–Yes}} || 
|}
That looks excellent, I think it should be implemented. [[User:Devonian Wombat|Devonian Wombat]] ([[User talk:Devonian Wombat|talk]]) 22:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::I think this a great idea, one minor addition . . . if two candidates drop out before the same contest we should sort them by name rather than by date.  So, for example, if two candiadates drop out between IA and NH, they'd be sorted by name.[[User:ObieGrad|ObieGrad]] ([[User talk:ObieGrad|talk]]) 01:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:::No, I'd just keep it sorted by date dropped out. There isn't really any reason to sort by name as opposed to date. [[User:NebuchadnezzarHammurabi|NebuchadnezzarHammurabi]] ([[User talk:NebuchadnezzarHammurabi|talk]]) 01:35, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

::We should replace the checkmarks with percentages, and turn it into a results chart. [[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79|talk]]) 12:50, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

I think that we should present detailed view of all candidates instead of "Other" [[User:Filippos|Filippos]] ([[User talk:Filippos|talk]]) 18:52, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

:That would result in way too many columns, most of them only for the NH primary which is already over. But I did think it might be good to split 'other' into two columns, one for 'major candidates who withdrew before February' and one for 'minor candidates'. [[User:Adam Dent|Adam Dent]] ([[User talk:Adam Dent|talk]]) 05:33, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

== First alignment vote ==

Shouldn't we be using the first alignment vote for the candidates? Given that that's a more accurate representation of the popular vote, and that this is new information given to us by Iowa for the first time ever, I think that this is the best method to use. SDEs and national delegates will be decided and recorded anyway. 
[[User:TheGreatClockwyrm|TheGreatClockwyrm]] ([[User talk:TheGreatClockwyrm|talk]]) 21:11, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

: '''Disagree.''' The winner of the Iowa caucuses is the winner on SDEs, according to those who hold the caucuses and how it's reported by nearly every media source and all previous primary season articles on Wikipedia. That's also how delegates are divided; nothing to do with popular votes. SDEs are the important metric in Iowa and while it's nice to have additional information this year, that's exactly what it is. Additional information for further down in the article. [[User:Omnibus|Omnibus]] ([[User talk:Omnibus|talk]]) 05:11, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:'''Disagree.''' Iowa's winner has always been traditionally reported as winner of SDEs, including in previous primaries on Wikipedia. [[User:Basil the Bat Lord|Basil the Bat Lord]] ([[User talk:Basil the Bat Lord|talk]]) 15:57, 7 February 2020 (UTC)


Agreed  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Caveman Caveman Caveman|Caveman Caveman Caveman]] ([[User talk:Caveman Caveman Caveman#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Caveman Caveman Caveman|contribs]]) 02:34, 7 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I also agree the first alignment vote is the most appropriate of the three results. [[User:Jjj1238|<b style="color: #AB2B2B;">{ [ ( jjj</b>]] [[User talk:Jjj1238|<b style="color: #000000;">1238 ) ] }</b>]] 03:04, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::We should put the first alignment, final alignment, and the SDEs in the article. All of that is relevant information. As for the map.. it says "first instance"; I'm not exactly sure what that means.. However, I think the final alignment popular vote is what matters most, and I think we should consider using that to determine the "popular vote winner". [[User:Prcc27|Prcc27]] ([[User talk:Prcc27|talk]]) 03:10, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::: Agree, if we put the SDE it will only be confusing as they only exist in caucuses.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/62.140.137.80|62.140.137.80]] ([[User talk:62.140.137.80#top|talk]]) 17:57, 7 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

The Green papers use the second alignment as the basis for the "popular vote" I think the first should be. But the SDEs are what counts. But that's for the Iowa article, not this one. For this one we should just use the SDEs and briefly mention the popular vote. [[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79|talk]]) 13:05, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

You mean for this article we should just use the pledged national delegates and the popular vote and briefly mention SDEs? The only relevance Iowa SDEs have to who wins the presidential nomination is indirect via the affect of SDEs on the allocation of pledged national delegates from Iowa; I would say that the first alignment vote in caucuses like Iowa's is the best indicator of 'popular vote', the equivalent of first-choice votes on a ranked voting ballot. Final alignment and SDEs are both just intermediate steps between the relevant (to this article) pop vote and national delegates, for me. [[User:Adam Dent|Adam Dent]] ([[User talk:Adam Dent|talk]]) 19:35, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:Agree with the fellow Adam above for the same reason. Ranked Choice articles often list first-preferences in the infobox as it often makes little sense to list later stages. [[User:AdamFilinovich|Filinovich]] ([[User talk:AdamFilinovich|talk]]) 17:43, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:In Iowa, SDEs are considerably more important than first alignment votes. A candidate could get 99% first alignment vote and come last in SDEs, so lose the state. There is no way to lose the state with the majority of SDEs though.[[User:Wikiditm|Wikiditm]] ([[User talk:Wikiditm|talk]]) 09:40, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

::That's why the SDEs are the most important result of the Iowa caucuses. But my point was that they are less important than national delegates in the overall presidential primary for deciding who wins in the end (e.g. Buttigieg got two more SDEs than Sanders, but if they end up allocating the 41st national delegate to Sanders then they will both have the same number of national delegates so the SDEs won't matter any more), and they are also not as important as first alignment for comparing popular vote (which is always done for elections even though in many, it's not the direct way the winner is elected). [[User:Adam Dent|Adam Dent]] ([[User talk:Adam Dent|talk]]) 05:41, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

== What is the best way to represent a tie between candidates? ==

I thought the current method (using alternating green and yellow stripes to show that Sanders and Buttigieg won an equal number of national pledged delegates in New Hampshire) is kind of hard to see, and that it wouldn't work well if an even smaller state produced a tie, so I decided to come up with a few ideas for how else we can approach this. This isn't a huge issue right now, and the problem could solve itself if enough candidates drop out that we don't need to worry about other ties between other candidates, but as of right now the field is large enough that it's difficult to find a good way to display the ties. There's a lot of candidates with a lot of colors, and a lot of states aren't big enough for stripes. If anyone else has other suggestions, please do share them.

Here's [https://i.imgur.com/awvtCvX.png an image] with a few different suggestions:
# The current version (alternating stripes)
# Using new colors for ties which combine the candidates' colors
# Displaying ties in gray
# Changing the kind of map we use

Do any of these seem like they'd be worth consideration?

<b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Vanilla Wizard|<b style="background-color:#07d;color:#FFF">&nbsp;Vanilla </b>]][[User Talk:Vanilla Wizard|<b style="background-color:#749;color:#FFF">&nbsp;Wizard </b>]]</b> [[Special:Contribs/Vanilla Wizard|💙]] 06:28, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
:Although I was pushing for the stripes, I admit that they are obviously very flawed in practice. What if we use a map more like this one from 2016? Tied states could be colored grey and all candidates receiving deleegates would have colored dots outstanding.
[[File:Delegation_Vote_,2016_(Republican_Party).svg]]
:with that aside, here are my thoughts:
# If a state (or any other contest) any smaller by area than NH has a tie, stripes won't work, but I think that stripes can be kept in place as long as there are not ties in smaller areas. I also suggest tilting the stripes at an angle rather than them being horizontal (for aesthetic reasons), but that doesn't solve the issue.
# Does not really work imo, we would just have to add more colors to the key anyway. Also imagine if, say, Warren and Biden tie in a state; from the purple color produced, would it be immediately obvious that Bloomberg wasn't the sole winner? (The average color between Biden and Warren is #9155A3; Bloomberg's color is #8041DB. Distinct but still similar.) Many complimentary-colored ties could also end up producing vague browns.
# With a footnote, this is reasonable, although I personally dislike it without having an indication on the map itself showing who the tie was between.
# The cartogram is a cool idea, if anyone wants to work on it!
::Wasn't this used to show the final delegate votes at the Republican convention? Since this includes unpledged delegates, it'd probably be very confusing to make such a map so far out from the convention since we have no idea how the unpledged delegates are going to vote. [[User:Antihorarios|Antihorarios]] ([[User talk:Antihorarios|talk]]) 17:16, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
:I also recognize that my opinions are probably bad, and I have been acting too aggressive on these talk pages lately only for it to work out great when my opinion is discarded. [[User:Cookieo131|Cookieo131]] ([[User talk:Cookieo131|talk]]) 07:04, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
:: I think the stripes work very well as long as the states are big enough to be seen. Is there a way we could have a map with a zoomed-in version of New England on the side? [[User:Michelangelo1992|Michelangelo1992]] ([[User talk:Michelangelo1992|talk]]) 15:02, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
::: I also agree that the stripes work very well and should be used until the problem is encountered with tiny states. [[Special:Contributions/79.44.114.140|79.44.114.140]] ([[User talk:79.44.114.140|talk]]) 21:42, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
::I would support the map with colored dots, which was deemed useful and clear to read during the 2016 Republican primaries. — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 19:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

== Candidate colors ==

[[File:New Hampshire Democratic presidential primary election results by town, 2020.svg|thumb|upright]]
Some candidate colors are too close to distinguish, especially on maps. See for example the New Hampshire results by town, where Bloomberg's light purple is easily confused with Klobuchar's pink.
{{clear}}
In January there was [[Talk:2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries/Archive 7#Candidate colors|extensive discussion]] among editors to settle on an appropriate color scheme, as follows. I see no later discussion to apply other colors, such as the ones currently in use. I would suggest switching to the consensus scheme and sticking to it for all relevant articles and maps. We could even create a template with color codes for each candidate linked to their name, so that if another color change is later agreed, there would be only one place to update the articles (the maps would still need work). — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 06:41, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%" 
|-
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Joe Biden]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Bernie Sanders]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Elizabeth Warren]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Pete Buttigieg]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Michael Bloomberg]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Andrew Yang]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Amy Klobuchar]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Tulsi Gabbard]]</big>
! scope="col" style="width:4em;"|<big>[[Tom Steyer]]</big>
|-
|[[File:Joe Biden (48554137807) (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Bernie Sanders July 2019 (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Elizabeth Warren by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Pete Buttigieg by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Michael Bloomberg by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Andrew Yang by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Amy Klobuchar 2019 (cropped).jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Tulsi Gabbard August 2019.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|[[File:Tom Steyer by Gage Skidmore.jpg|center|125x125px]]
|-
| {{color fill|MediumBlue}}
| {{color fill|ForestGreen}}
| {{color fill|Crimson}}
| {{color fill|Goldenrod}}
| {{color fill|MediumOrchid}}
| {{color fill|DeepSkyBlue}}
| {{color fill|LightGreen}}
| {{color fill|HotPink}}
| {{color fill|Chocolate}}
|}
:I argued for the above color scheme extensively, as it strikes the perfect balance between giving each candidate a color related to their campaign, keeping the colors visually distinct so as to create as little confusion as possible, and being visible to those who are color blind. I would like to use this color scheme everywhere the candidates appear related to the 2020 election. That is, on this page, the Iowa and New Hampshire pages, the debates page, maybe even the polling page, etc. [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 10:04, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
::I’m fine with changing the color scheme, with the suggestion that we not use red for Warren. We already have two shades of green (Sanders and Klobuchar), and that will make things too difficult for red-green colorblind readers. [[User:Michelangelo1992|Michelangelo1992]] ([[User talk:Michelangelo1992|talk]]) 16:45, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
::Since Yang has already dropped out and didn’t win any delegates, we could use his light blue color for someone else. [[User:Michelangelo1992|Michelangelo1992]] ([[User talk:Michelangelo1992|talk]]) 16:46, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
:::I believe it would fit Warren rather well. I support this change and I'm willing to edit the Iowa and New Hampshire maps accordingly. [[User:Antihorarios|Antihorarios]] ([[User talk:Antihorarios|talk]]) 17:50, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
::::I tried using the proposed colors in the map for Iowa's SDE results by county and if I'm honest, Biden's looks way too saturated and pops too much. I feel like the proposed colors work rather well *except* for Biden's and we should stick to the current shade of blue. [[User:Antihorarios|Antihorarios]] ([[User talk:Antihorarios|talk]]) 20:09, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

::I fully support making Klobuchar green (though possibly slightly bluish to better differentiate her from Sanders) and Gabbard pink. I suggested something similar at [[Talk:2020 Iowa Democratic caucuses/Archive 1#Colors revisited]]. Here's a couple of suggestions from that talk archive:
::Version A from the talk archive
::{{legend|#6abfb8|Amy Klobuchar}}
::{{legend|#ff69b4|Tulsi Gabbard}}
::Version B from the talk archive
::{{legend|#55eedd|Amy Klobuchar}}
::{{legend|#ff99bb|Tulsi Gabbard}}
::At the Iowa discussion we also had a lot of discussion about what to do with Warren, but with less agreement; that could be a discussion of its own. I do think, however, that we've got a a decent consensus to change Klobuchar to green and Gabbard to pink if anyone wants to go ahead and do it. I'm supportive of this change regardless of which shade we end up using, but if anyone thinks a particular shade would look the best on the map, then we can of course go with whatever the consensus leans in favor of. <b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Vanilla Wizard|<b style="background-color:#07d;color:#FFF">&nbsp;Vanilla </b>]][[User Talk:Vanilla Wizard|<b style="background-color:#749;color:#FFF">&nbsp;Wizard </b>]]</b> [[Special:Contribs/Vanilla Wizard|💙]] 23:04, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
::: Gabbard has been using this color {{color sample|#008080}} which for me is better as it doesn't fall within the same pattern of colors and it cannot be confused with other colors. I also suggest keeping Klobuchar pink as there’s no problem with that color hence don’t see why we should change it along with all the maps and graphics. [[User:Davidmejoradas|Davidmejoradas]] ([[User talk:Davidmejoradas|talk]]) 03:21, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

In general, we should stabilize the color assignments soon, to avoid having to redo maps. If needed, we can swap a color with Booker or Harris to get gray or orange. There was also some discussion about a darker blue for Biden. —[[User:Naddruf|<u>Naddruf</u>]] ([[User talk:Naddruf|''talk'']] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Naddruf|'''contribs''']]) 23:32, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
:I have begun moving Klobuchar to LightGreen and Gabbard to HotPink. [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 01:24, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Edit: I cannot edit the graphs for towns and delegates on the New Hampshire and Iowa pages becuase I lack the software neccessary to do so. Can someone either replace Klobouchar's pink with Light Green or show me an easier way to do it than downloading the images and trying to edit it myself? [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 01:43, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
::I have updated the New Hampshire maps and page, I'll update the Iowa ones soon. [[User:Antihorarios|Antihorarios]] ([[User talk:Antihorarios|talk]]) 17:29, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

My suggestion to fix the color issues would be to keep Amy pink but make Bloomberg orange. Then every major candidate has a pretty distinct color. [[User:Beccabecco|Beccabecco]] ([[User talk:Beccabecco|talk]]) 01:28, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
:Steyer is already Orange, though. [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 01:43, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

I don't mind a color change for Klobuchar as I'm not a huge fan of the bright pink either, but I'm not too sure about assigning a lighter shade of green to her despite being a color heavily associated with her campaign. After developing a [[:c:Category:2020 U.S. presidential election maps by state, Democratic primary (vote share)|gradient sample]] for maps showing each candidate's received vote share ([[:File:2020IADpresidentialcaucuses.svg|like this one]]), I realized that using light green for Klobuchar would make the maps even more confusing to readers by being virtually identical to Sanders's green in lighter and darker shades. I think [[User:Vanilla Wizard|Vanilla Wizard]]'s suggestion to use {{legend0|#43b3ae}}a lighter shade of teal for Klobuchar is a good compromise, as it doesn't stray too far from the originally proposed green while remaining distinct from the other candidates' colors.

If Bloomberg's color is still an issue, I propose changing his color to {{legend0|#9370db|MediumPurple}}; other than that I would support maintaining the status quo for all the other candidates' colors as they have already been thoroughly discussed before and works well as is. I'm against changing Warren's color based on the original reason given at the [[Talk:2020 Iowa Democratic caucuses/Archive 1#Colors revisited|Iowa talk page]] as assigning colors based on perceived ideological position constitutes [[WP:OR]] and was frowned upon in another [[Talk:2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries/Archive 3#Colors of the 2020 Democratic nominees should be as followed|previous discussion]]. Please let me know your thoughts on this color scheme. — [[User:Tony Patt|Tony Patt]] <small>([[User talk:Tony Patt|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tony Patt|contribs]])</small> 13:08, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Candidate
! Hex
! {{nowrap|In use?}}
! Reason
|-
| Joe Biden
| style="background:#224192;" |
| {{ya}}
| Exact shade used in his campaign logo; not too close to the "generic" shade of blue used for Democrats
|-
| {{nowrap|Michael Bloomberg}}
| style="background:#9370db;" |
| {{na}}
| More distinguishable from pink compared to his original color
|-
| Pete Buttigieg
| style="background:#f2ba42;" |
| {{ya}}
| Official campaign color according to [https://design.peteforamerica.com/colors his website]
|-
| Tulsi Gabbard
| style="background:#ff69b4;" |
| {{na}}
| Reassigning Klobuchar's old color
|-
| Amy Klobuchar
| style="background:#43b3ae;" |
| {{na}}
| Compromise between color relation to campaign and display problems
|-
| Bernie Sanders
| style="background:#228b22;" |
| {{ya}}
| Keeping color consistent with 2016
|-
| Tom Steyer
| style="background:#d2691e;" |
| {{na}}
| Consensual decision (currently unused in any maps as he has yet to win any delegates)
|-
| Elizabeth Warren
| style="background:#b61b28;" |
| {{ya}}
| Derived from one of the secondary colors used on her [https://elizabethwarren.com/ campaign website]
|}
:I think this suggestion is much more reasonable. Light green doesn't work if we color code by margin of victory.—[[User:Naddruf|<u>Naddruf</u>]] 
::That's a good point, it seems like Klobuchar's current light green would clash too much with Sanders' in those maps. [[User:Antihorarios|Antihorarios]] ([[User talk:Antihorarios|talk]]) 17:36, 15 February 2020 (UTC)([[User talk:Naddruf|''talk'']] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Naddruf|'''contribs''']]) 17:32, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
::I support this, a more turquoise green for Klobuchar stands out nicely and still fits with her campaign colors. <b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Vanilla Wizard|<b style="background-color:#07d;color:#FFF">&nbsp;Vanilla </b>]][[User Talk:Vanilla Wizard|<b style="background-color:#749;color:#FFF">&nbsp;Wizard </b>]]</b> [[Special:Contribs/Vanilla Wizard|💙]] 00:14, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
::Support this color scheme. Let's get it done before the next vote. — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 08:46, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
:::I support this color scheme. With Yang out, Klobuchar has no conflict with his light blue. [[User:WittyRecluse|WittyRecluse]] ([[User talk:WittyRecluse|talk]]) 09:25, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Since Yang has dropped out, to better represent campaign colors could we use light blue for Biden, dark blue for Sanders, light green for Warren, and dark green for Klobuchar? That’s all their campaign colors.  [[User:Smith0124|Smith0124]] ([[User talk:Smith0124|talk]]) 16:03, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
:When we do the margin of victory maps, it uses lighter colors for less votes and darker colors for more votes. This wouldn't work.—[[User:Naddruf|<u>Naddruf</u>]] ([[User talk:Naddruf|''talk'']] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Naddruf|'''contribs''']]) 16:28, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Ok [[User:Smith0124|Smith0124]] ([[User talk:Smith0124|talk]]) 17:42, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

== Klobuchar color change ==

Why did we go from pink to lime when all the primaries so far still have her represented by pink and the lime is simply un appealing [[User:Ncooksey12|Ncooksey12]] ([[User talk:Ncooksey12|talk]]) 02:32, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
:Please see the above discussion before creating a new talk section. This change was only made because several editors have suggested it in the past and agreed to it. Editors at the Iowa Caucus talk page criticized how bright the pink is, and Klobuchar's main campaign color is green. <b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Vanilla Wizard|<b style="background-color:#07d;color:#FFF">&nbsp;Vanilla </b>]][[User Talk:Vanilla Wizard|<b style="background-color:#749;color:#FFF">&nbsp;Wizard </b>]]</b> [[Special:Contribs/Vanilla Wizard|💙]] 03:24, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
:Reverted back to pink. If we're to do a color change, all other articles need to be updated. [[User:Nice4What|Nice4What]] ([[User talk:Nice4What|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Nice4What|contribs]]) – <small>(Don't forget to share a [[Help:Notifications/Thanks|Thanks]] <span style="color:#4dac8b;">♥</span>)</small> 18:24, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

:I think the colours need to be changed again, because Klobuchar's and Yang's lines in [[Nationwide opinion polling for the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries]] are hard to distinguish. Maybe Yang's and Gabbard's colours could be swapped? <span style="font-family:Comic Sans">[[User:Chessrat|<span style="color:#C90">Chessrat</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Chessrat|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]], [[Special:Contribs/Chessrat|<span style="color:#f78">contributions</span>]]) </sup></span> 11:19, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
::Yes, I changed Yang's color on that graph, Gabbard has no line, so no issue until she cracks 3% (if ever). — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 16:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
== Winner not yet declared ==
I started a discussion on the "winner not yet declared" color [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries#Winner_not_yet_declared here]. [[User:Prcc27|Prcc27]] ([[User talk:Prcc27|talk]]) 02:34, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

== Economist aggregator? ==

It just disappeared from the list.  It was highly skewed towards Bloomberg.  Showing him at 21, while the avg of the other 3 is 16.3, and none of Economist polls show him at or above 21. Which would make it even strange to average at 21.  Is there an official reason for its removal and whether it'll be included in the future? --[[User:ZombieZombi|ZombieZombi]] ([[User talk:ZombieZombi|talk]]) 02:26, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
:That table is simple reproduced from the [[Nationwide opinion polling for the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries]] article.  It seems one of the editors there was [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries&type=revision&diff=941506878&oldid=941506004 concerned about the methodology].  I suggest you raise your concerns on [[Talk:Nationwide opinion polling for the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries|the talk page there]] and discuss.--[[User:Darryl Kerrigan|Darryl Kerrigan]] ([[User talk:Darryl Kerrigan|talk]]) 02:36, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on February 19, 2020 ==

{{edit semi-protected|2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries|answered=yes}}

The phrase "no-excuse, in-person absentee voting" is used ten times here and I was surprised to find no resource in this article explaining what, exactly, that means. I thought it meant that, if you failed to cast your absentee ballot by a deadline, no explanation would work and they would not allow you to cast it late. Turns out, that's wrong: it means you can request an absentee ballot without needing to provide a reason you can't cast your vote in person.

Obviously it wouldn't be appropriate to just add a sidebar explaining it but a link would help. The first use of that phrase is in the timeline entry for January 17, 2020; could someone add a pipe to "no-excuse" there with a link to [[Absentee ballot#United States]] please? [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:B7A1:9A30:0:0:0:724|2600:1700:B7A1:9A30:0:0:0:724]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:B7A1:9A30:0:0:0:724|talk]]) 21:06, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
:I added the pipe.[[User:David O. Johnson|David O. Johnson]] ([[User talk:David O. Johnson|talk]]) 21:14, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
::{{replyto|David O. Johnson}} You did! Thank you very much. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:B7A1:9A30:0:0:0:724|2600:1700:B7A1:9A30:0:0:0:724]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:B7A1:9A30:0:0:0:724|talk]]) 21:20, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

== Maps ==

The "Maps" section of this article needs to have a legend near it to indicate which color belongs to which candidate. I realize that one can click on the map to see what color is for which candidate, but many users might not know that. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User talk:Metropolitan90|(talk)]] 21:13, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
:{{done}} --[[User:Spiffy sperry|Spiffy sperry]] ([[User talk:Spiffy sperry|talk]]) 22:06, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2020 ==
The location of Gillibrand's NYC campaign launch rally on March 24 2020 was not outside Trump Tower (5th Avenue/Central Park East) but instead in front of the Trump International Hotel in Columbus Circle (Central Park West/8th Avenue). The article states the tower and links to it, which is incorrect.   <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.187.169.134|24.187.169.134]] ([[User talk:24.187.169.134#top|talk]]) 03:58, 23 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:{{done}} --[[User:Spiffy sperry|Spiffy sperry]] ([[User talk:Spiffy sperry|talk]]) 04:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== Article preview photo inconsistency ==

So, before Bernie took the delegate lead, Biden was the article photo preview for some reason.  Now that Bernie has the lead and is the first photo in the box, the map is shown as the picture preview.  Any reason for these inconsistent shenanigans? --[[User:ZombieZombi|ZombieZombi]] ([[User talk:ZombieZombi|talk]]) 08:52, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
:You've asked this question a number of times now. We don't control the preview photo.[[User:Wikiditm|Wikiditm]] ([[User talk:Wikiditm|talk]]) 13:26, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== Adding [[Primary election]] and [[Caucus]] links ==

I suggest to add [[Primary election|primary]] and [[Caucus|caucus]] links in this sentence : "The following [[Primary election|primary]] and [[Caucus|caucus]] dates have been [...]"  (''Primary and caucus calendar'' section).  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lavoie.eric|Lavoie.eric]] ([[User talk:Lavoie.eric#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lavoie.eric|contribs]]) 17:47, 23 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I took the liberty of adjusting the links so it will read like so: "The following [[United States presidential primary|primary]] and [[Caucus#In the United States|caucus]] dates have been." Hope you don't mind. [[User:David O. Johnson|David O. Johnson]] ([[User talk:David O. Johnson|talk]]) 20:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== Nevada called ==
The decision desk has called the Nevada caucuses for Bernie. Should we update the article, and do we know if this projection applies to the popular vote or just the delegate count? [https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1231376854793302016] [https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/] [[User:Prcc27|Prcc27]] ([[User talk:Prcc27|talk]]) 00:47, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
:Let's wait until a news organization calls it, and also make sure we properly cite it in the article. - [[user:MrX|Mr]][[user talk:MrX|X]] 🖋 00:57, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
::I don't see why we shouldn't update it. [[User:MrX|MrX]], here's NBC calling it: [https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/nevada-caucuses-set-kick-amid-fears-plans-avoid-repeat-iowa-n1140896]. [[User:David O. Johnson|David O. Johnson]] ([[User talk:David O. Johnson|talk]]) 00:59, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Not to belabor the point, but the AP has called it as well. [https://apnews.com/6dbc1adb1411f54831f8bbb8fcee4e6e].[[User:David O. Johnson|David O. Johnson]] ([[User talk:David O. Johnson|talk]]) 01:01, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
::::Yeah, it's moot now. I just wanted to make sure we could cite a source. - [[user:MrX|Mr]][[user talk:MrX|X]] 🖋 01:03, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
::It's a bit of a landslide, so to the guy reverting the colors, stop it. [[User:Arglebargle79|Arglebargle79]] ([[User talk:Arglebargle79|talk]]) 20:25, 23 February 2020 (UTC)