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== Requested move 22 December 2023 ==

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The result of the move request was: '''procedural close.''' Redirected per [[WP:A10]]. <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> [[User:NmWTfs85lXusaybq|NmWTfs85lXusaybq]] ([[User talk:NmWTfs85lXusaybq|talk]]) 16:14, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
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[[:Al Ahly FC]] → ? – Al Ahly is a major social and multi-sports club in Egypt, and have a team participating in almost all top-tier leagues in all sports competitions in Egypt, in both the men and women divisions.

The club's official name has always been '''Al Ahly SC''', and it was the name used here on Wikipedia for a while, with the full name in English being '''Al Ahly Sporting Club''', and sometimes translated to '''Al Ahly Sports Club'''. However, effective from mid-2022, the club launched its own football company to moderate everything related to the club's football team, and in 2023, they launched a new logo and started using the abbreviation '''AFC''', which is short for '''Al Ahly Football Club''', according to [https://www.alahlyegypt.com/en/news/article/32004 the club's official website].

A user apparently moved this article without holding a discussion first, so I decided to make a RM to see whether the current name is the best, or should we revert this note.

One thing to note is that the majority of sports and social clubs in Egypt use the same name for all teams in all sports, such as [[Ismaily SC|Ismaily]] (ISM/ISC), [[Smouha SC|Smouha]] (SMO/SSC), and [[Zamalek SC|Zamalek]] (ZAM/ZSC) for example, so reverting to the old name will be ideal for [[WP:CONSISTENT]] and [[WP:COMMONNAME]] too.

At the same time, the articles mainly, but not fully, discusses the football team only, with a small part concentrating about the founding of the club itself, so the current name might be ideal; but again, that wouldn't match the naming system used here on Wikipedia for the rest of clubs in Egypt.

Personally, I'm fine with either names, '''Al Ahly FC''' or '''Al Ahly SC''', but I believe the most suitable name would be determined only through a discussion. Thanks.

Edit: I also noticed that the user who made this change didn't actually move the article, but instead just literally copied the content of the page located at [[Al Ahly SC]] to a newly-created article called [[Al Ahly FC]], and changed the former to a redirect page. [[User:Ben5218|Ben5218]] ([[User talk:Ben5218|talk]]) 01:17, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
*<small>Note: This discussion has been included in [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Football#Nominations for deletion and page moves|WikiProject Football]]'s list of association football-related page moves. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 16:28, 22 December 2023 (UTC)</small>
*'''Comment''' - we need one article about the wider sports club ([[Al Ahly SC]]) and a second, separate article about the football department ([[Al Ahly FC]]). As ''this'' article deals with the football club, it should remain where it is. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 16:31, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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