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==Comment==
ERROR - IT SAYS THAT THE MAN HE FELL IN LOVE WITH WAS "IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH ANOTHER MAN" - THIS IS WRONG. HE HAD A GIRLFRIEND AND WAS NOT GAY. HOWEVER HE ADMITTED HIS FEELINGS TO FRANK 3 YEARS LATER. IT'S IN THE POST FRANK WROTE. READ IT AGAIN.<span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.45.89.145|82.45.89.145]] ([[User talk:82.45.89.145|talk]]) 16:21, 4 July 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Place of birth ==
Hi folks, I recently read an article about Ocean concerning "Sound of 2012". In the clip you can easily see at the head of the page he says that california is the state he was born (not New Orleans/Louisiana). But because of some language difficulties i cannot understand the exact town. Maybe you can help me? --[[User:Music fanhere|Music fanhere]] ([[User talk:Music fanhere|talk]]) 19:23, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16390456

: Yes, in the video clip he says he was born in Long Beach, California. He says he moved around a bit and ended up in New Orleans at age 5 1/2. The article should be fixed. [[User:Vandemark|Vandemark]] ([[User talk:Vandemark|talk]]) 16:19, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

:: Fixed the error. --[[User:Happy Panda|Happy Panda]] ([[User talk:Happy Panda|talk]]) 06:27, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

== Ocean's father is a living person and covered by [[WP:BLP]] too ==

We cannot include in the article claims about the actions of a living person, Ocean's father, that have as their sole basis a twit, one which is not even verifiable because it has been removed from the account. Unless / until reliable sources cover an actual court case filing, we cannot have such gossip in the article. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 15:08, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

== Personal life ==
Could the term [[Unrequited love]] be used in the sentence about Ocean's open letter about his experience? According to his letter, his feelings were not reciprocated. [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 23:27, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

: Something like this: "Ocean published an [[open letter]] on his [[Tumblr]] blog recounting his unrequited feelings for a man when he was 19 years old, citing it as his first true love". [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 23:43, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
:: Yes. I think it's a good idea. '''ツ''' [[User:Teammm|<span style="color:black;font-family: fantasy"> '''''Teammm'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Teammm|'''<span style="color:black;">T</span>''']][[Special:EmailUser/Teammm|'''<span style="color:black;">M</span>''']]</sup> 01:03, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

:: [[User:Pass a Method]] reverted my removal of [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Frank_Ocean&diff=502397920&oldid=502389183 these categories], saying that Ocean did announce his sexuality in the open letter. I argued that he only revealed only the feelings he had for a man rather than saying he's bisexual or homosexual. Am I mistaken? If so, where [http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6me6uSdO81qdrz3yo1_1280.png in this letter] does it say that? [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 13:29, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
::: It doesn't explicitly say it, but he references the girls he had been with before, yet this guy was the first one he fell in love with. I doubt he will say the actual word "bisexual" any time soon. Maybe. '''ツ''' [[User:Teammm|<span style="color:black;font-family: fantasy"> '''''Teammm'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Teammm|'''<span style="color:black;">T</span>''']][[Special:EmailUser/Teammm|'''<span style="color:black;">M</span>''']]</sup> 20:58, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
[[Someone needs to add the details surrounding the altercation between Ocean and Chris Brown]] [http://iphone.eonline.com/article?id=385073 Jan 27 Altercation]  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/174.232.145.124|174.232.145.124]] ([[User talk:174.232.145.124|talk]]) 16:21, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Not quite. This is a biography of Frank Ocean. [[WP:What Wikipedia is not#NEWS|Wikipedia is not news, or an indiscriminate collection of information]]. [[User:Teammm|<span style="color:black;font-family:fantasy">'''''Teammm'''''</span>]]&nbsp;{{su|p= [[User talk:Teammm|<span style="color:green;">'''''talk'''''</span>]] |b= [[Special:EmailUser/Teammm|<span style="color:black;">'''''email'''''</span>]]|fontsize=1.5ex}} 17:27, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


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'''Thinkin' Bout You was not a song about his bisexuality.''' The song was actually written for Bridget Kelly (that chick who fills in for Alicia Keys at Jay’s live shows). It was produced by Shea Taylor

The guide vocal track that Frank did (to give Kelly a rough idea of how he wanted the song to sound) was subsequently leaked and went viral. Because of the response to the song Frank went back in the studio and remastered the track adding in background vocals and additional lyrics, with this version finding its way onto

Neither is the song '''Pink Matter'''. It's in fact about his mixed perception towards the female genitals.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/159.53.78.143|159.53.78.143]] ([[User talk:159.53.78.143|talk]]) 19:34, 27 July 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:We go based on what the sources say about the songs, not [[WP:OR|our interpretations]]. An editor had recently added the song "Thinking About You" to an existing list.  I cannot access the source right now to [[WP:V|verify]] which songs they include in their analysis, but put an edit request tag here so that someone else will be alterted. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;font-size:small;;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">The Red Pen of Doom</span>]] 20:14, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

: I [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Frank_Ocean&diff=504494086&oldid=504468555 revised] the sentence, not mentioning songs in particular nor sexuality, but this sentiment is echoed by numerous other sources, so it's notable enough to include as is. While you can interpret he wrote the song for someone else, I can counter with it being written by Ocean, after the unrequited love he revealed. So interpretation doesnt matter. [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 21:17, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
::[[File:Padlock-silver-slash2.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''[[Wikipedia:SILVERLOCK|Not done]]:''' {{Tlx|edit semi-protected}} is not required for edits to semi-protected, unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Mdann52|Mdann52]] ([[User talk:Mdann52|talk]]) 16:57, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

== Ghostwriter? ==

Is there a reason why he is described as a 'ghostwriter'? Surely he was just a credited songwriter. If he was a ghostwriter then so is Max Martin a ghostwriter for Britney Spears or RedOne a ghostwriter for Lady Gaga. I think it's the wrong word to use. [[Special:Contributions/123.122.0.156|123.122.0.156]] 13:43, February 12, 2013
:It is true that he was a ghostwriter. His first songwriting credit was in 2011 for [[I Miss You (Beyonce Knowles song)]]. [[User:Teammm|<span style="color:black;font-family:fantasy">'''''Teammm'''''</span>]]&nbsp;{{su|p= [[User talk:Teammm|<span style="color:green;">'''''talk'''''</span>]] |b= [[Special:EmailUser/Teammm|<span style="color:black;">'''''email'''''</span>]]|fontsize=1.5ex}} 17:52, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

== Fight with Chris Brown ==

Please add this to Frank Ocean's personal life section -


In the late night hours of January 27, 2013, at Westlake Studio, Chris Brown approached Frank Ocean and his entourage and a fight broke out. Ocean's finger sustained a cut. Chris Brown was not there when officers arrived -- but they did speak to Frank Ocean. No one wanted to press charges, and no arrests were made.


http://perezhilton.com/2013-01-28-chris-brown-fights-frank-ocean-westlake-studio#.UWrtgUp4_rp
http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/27/chris-brown-frank-ocean-fight-westlake-studio/  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/128.59.172.31|128.59.172.31]] ([[User talk:128.59.172.31|talk]]) 18:01, 14 April 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

.I think [[Hip hop]] is full of [[homophobia]] cuz i am a rapper and so far it has not been a good road for me(as a artist and a student). Cuz im trying to do wot im suppost to and i cant cuz all these other fooz are making a big deal otta it.  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:MRivera25|MRivera25]] ([[User talk:MRivera25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MRivera25|contribs]]) 18:20, 22 October 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Genres ==

What genres does [[Frank Ocean]] really do?Does he do [[Hip hop music|Hip hop]], [[Contemporary R&B|R&B]], [[Soul music|Soul]] or all three of em.--[[User:MRivera25|MRivera25]] ([[User talk:MRivera25|talk]]) 18:18, 28 October 2013 (UTC)MRivera25
 Frank Ocean makes alternative, experimental, r&b. (source: http://www.spin.com/2012/12/trend-of-the-year-alt-rb-2012-frank-ocean-weeknd-miguel/)  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Joseriverajunior|Joseriverajunior]] ([[User talk:Joseriverajunior|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Joseriverajunior|contribs]]) 21:32, 8 August 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Frank Ocean  ==

I know I don't have Wiki editing experience but  it says he is a Rapper and he isn't a Rapper a Rapper is someone like Lil Wayne . And the Statement that he wrote songs for Justin Bieber is untrue because Justin Bieber didn't become famous until 2007, So why would a Popular person write for Justin Bieber when Justin Bieber was a nobody . I'm Lil Wayne isn't going to write a Rap song for me to Rap because I'm just a Gamer and Partnered on YouTube but, I write my own songs. So a lot of this article need to be fixed badly  <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2602:30A:2E0D:9C00:8081:4989:466D:4ACD|2602:30A:2E0D:9C00:8081:4989:466D:4ACD]] ([[User talk:2602:30A:2E0D:9C00:8081:4989:466D:4ACD|talk]]) 20:47, 9 August 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2015,,,here's what the Frank Ocean Wikipedia page is missing !! ==

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  The Wikipedia Bio missing that Damienn Jones and frank ocean 
worked together on a unreleased song in late 2014/2015.incorporate that in the bio please! Links of articles below 
heres the media links tmz,mtv,bet,ect
http://www.therainbowhub.com/artist-profile-damienn-jones/
http://raynbowaffair.com/damienn-jones-teams-up-with-frank-ocean-for-summertime/
http://mic.com/articles/123239/frank-ocean-s-new-album-might-miss-july-deadline-and-the-whole-internet-is-freaking-out
http://www.ischoolguide.com/articles/22844/20150819/frank-ocean-new-album.htm
http://www.tmz.com/person/frank-ocean/
thanks. 
my name is Tiffany
email mtvgirl07@mail.com
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[[User:DefjamLady|DefjamLady]] ([[User talk:DefjamLady|talk]]) 15:13, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
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== Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2015 ==

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| associated_acts = {{flatlist|
* [[Odd Future]]
* [[Kanye West]]
* [[Jay Z]]
* [[Earl Sweatshirt]] 
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| website = {{URL|frankocean.com}}
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'''Christopher Francis "Frank" Ocean''' (born '''Christopher Breaux''' October 28, 1987), is an American singer, songwriter and rapper. Ocean started his career as a [[ghostwriter]] for artists such as [[John Legend]], Damienn Jones [[Justin Bieber]], and [[Brandy Norwood|Brandy]].

In the article I would  like that name Damienn Jones and Tyler the Creator to be added in associated_acts? 
What wording would you like to be used? in the first portion of the article I want you to insert the name Damienn Jones after John Legend and before Justin Bieber.thank you 

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[[Special:Contributions/12.150.181.20|12.150.181.20]] ([[User talk:12.150.181.20|talk]]) 17:31, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

:{{not done}} The article on [[Damienn Jones]] has been repeatedly deleted as non-notable, so you would need to address that serious problem before listing him as an example in the lede/infobox. If you know of [[WP:RS|reliable]] sources that are independent of both Ocean and Jones which discuss their work together, then you could start a talk page discussion about mentioning that in the body of the article. [[User:Grayfell|Grayfell]] ([[User talk:Grayfell|talk]]) 00:20, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 4 October 2015 ==

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<!-- Begin request -->please incorprate that in the bio Damienn Jones and frank ocean worked together heres the reliable sources 
http://www.mtv.com/artists/damienn-jones/biography/
http://www.therainbowhub.com/artist-profile-damienn-jones/
http://raynbowaffair.com/damienn-jones-teams-up-with-frank-ocean-for-summertime/
http://www.tmz.com/person/frank-ocean/

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[[Special:Contributions/100.37.69.149|100.37.69.149]] ([[User talk:100.37.69.149|talk]]) 23:49, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=]] '''Not done for now:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Per the answer to your previous request, you're going to need to be more specific than that. Exactly where in the article would you like that information to be added? What wording would you like to be used? Please reply with something more specific and then change "answered=yes" to "answered=no" in the request template. [[User:Mww113|<b><span style="color:#000000;">M</span><span style="color:#330000;">w</span><span style="color:#660000;">w</span><span style="color:#990000;">1</span><span style="color:#CC0000;">1</span><span style="color:#FF0000;">3</span></b>]]    [[User talk:Mww113|(talk)]] 02:49, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

::As an additional note, none of those are usable sources for this content. ''[[The Rainbow Hub]]'' and ''[[Raynbow Affair]]'' do not appear to be [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. The other two are [[WP:UGC|user generated content]], press info, or some unreadable hybrid of the two, which do not establish this as being significant enough to mention. [[User:Grayfell|Grayfell]] ([[User talk:Grayfell|talk]]) 00:30, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2016 ==

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I wish to update Frank Ocean's Wiki photo as it's quite outdated. One from his Tumblr page would be ideal or simply a more recent photo that actually shows his full face. Thank you.


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[[User:Lukecasaletto|Lukecasaletto]] ([[User talk:Lukecasaletto|talk]]) 13:39, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
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== ENDLESS ==

The notion that ''ENDLESS'' is one of the two versions of "Boys Don't Cry" that Ocean mentioned a year ago is pure speculation at this point. Someone with access should delete that bit.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/73.19.172.252|73.19.172.252]] ([[User talk:73.19.172.252|talk]]) 06:15, 19 August 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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[[User:Greeneadamd|Greeneadamd]] ([[User talk:Greeneadamd|talk]]) 19:58, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Nyuszika7H|nyuszika7h]] ([[User talk:Nyuszika7H|talk]]) 10:02, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

== Birthplace incorrectly listed as Long Beach, California and should be New Orleans, LA ==

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Frank Ocean was born in New Orleans, LA. As referenced here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostalgia,_Ultra#Background

The birth city should be changed from Long Beach, California to New Orleans, LA.

'''Editors Note:''' Prior comment was unsigned.

:{{done}} -- [[User:Dane2007|<b style="color:blue">Dane<span style="color:#F14D0B">2007</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Dane2007|<span style="color:#00AC1D;">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup>  04:34, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 23 August 2016 ==

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Top photo caption states "Ocean performing at Coachella in August 2012". Should be April, not August.

[[User:Thegooddr|Thegooddr]] ([[User talk:Thegooddr|talk]]) 04:38, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:EP --> -- [[User:Dane2007|<b style="color:blue">Dane<span style="color:#F14D0B">2007</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Dane2007|<span style="color:#00AC1D;">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup>  04:53, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

== Updating Information ==

Consider explaining the acronym "OFWGKTA" that is placed throughout the page. "[[Odd Future|OFWGKTA]]" or "Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All", There is no clear explanation anywhere on Frank Ocean's Wiki page but the group is named throughout. [[User:Wickersham94|Wickersham94]] ([[User talk:Wickersham94|talk]]) 02:49, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

== Mixtapes ==

In general, we only list the regular studio albums when there is an artist discography. Previously this article also listed a number of mix tapes. That is highly unusual and I would suggest it needs a thorough discussion here before it is included. Mainly because Frank Ocean is a high profile page and it would set a certain precedent for other articles with a similar output. [[User:Karst|Karst]] ([[User talk:Karst|talk]]) 11:41, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

: {{ping|Karst}}, who's "we"? I recall this page listing the mixtape for a fairly long time until some editor removed it. [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians/Article guidelines]] "in most cases" a simple list of studio albums suffices as "a summary of the musician's major works"; well this is a case that's not one of those "most", since according to what's in this article, the "breakout mixtape" made Ocean "widely known and led to his collaborations with rappers Jay Z and Kanye West". The significant coverage of this mixtape warrants its inclusion as a "major work" in his discography. And no article or revision to an article can set precedents for any other article on Wikipedia; you've heard of [[WP:OTHERSTUFF]], right? If you disagree that this isn't one of those occasional cases where something other than a studio album belongs in the discography section, then please start an [[WP:RFC|RfC]] to establish a consensus for removing the mixtape. [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 12:48, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
::Well, that is what I am trying to tease out here really. Under Discographies there has been a discussion about their notability (see [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Discographies/style/Archive_4#Mixtapes.21|here]]). But that is from 2010. Obviously this was a more notable one, but still not 'officially' released with clearance. I guess an RfC would perhaps be a good idea as I can see other editors coming in an reverting it (I'm leaving it as it is under [[WP:BRD]]). [[User:Karst|Karst]] ([[User talk:Karst|talk]]) 13:10, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

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== RfC: Should this mixtape remain listed in the artist's discography section? ==
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I have opened this RfC due to the occasional removal of ''[[Nostalgia, Ultra]]'' from the [[Frank Ocean]] article's discography section. Developing a consensus for future reference couldn't hurt. Please place your votes under '''Votes''' and your explanation/comments under '''discussion'''. [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 13:43, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

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* '''Yes''' - per my comments below. [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 13:43, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
* '''Yes''', with a small caveat. Critical reception establishes ''Nostalgia, Ultra'' as a notable recording in Ocean's body of work. Nevertheless, [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians/Article guidelines#Discography section]] states that "live and compilation albums, EPs, singles, etc. should generally not be included". Therefore, it would be more preferable for the section to look something like that of the "Discography" section for [[Drake (musician)|Drake]] (another example of a musician who recorded a mixtape that qualifies as a noteworthy work in his catalogue) than for ''Nostalgia, Ultra'' to simply be listed right above the other two works. On Drake's page, it is noted in bold which ones are studio albums, which ones are mixtapes, etc. [[User:AndrewOne|AndrewOne]] ([[User talk:AndrewOne|talk]]) 05:37, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
* '''Yes''' per [[User:AndrewOne|AndrewOne]]. Some mixtapes are "major works" for the purpose of listing, others are not; ''Nostalgia Ultra'' clearly makes the mark. If all mixtapes were listed throughout Wikipedia (as here, where there is a separate discography page) it would be overwhelming for certain artists — the prolific&nbsp;[[Lil B]] and [[Gucci Mane]] come to mind&nbsp;— so it makes sense to distinguish "major" and "minor" mixtapes. A tentative rule of thumb might be that mixtapes are major if they rank on end-of-year "album" lists, like ''Nostalgia, Ultra'' or Drake's ''IYRTITL'' as referenced above, or if there are some other indicators of "major" status through acclaim. —[[User:Brandt Luke Zorn|BLZ]] · [[User talk:Brandt Luke Zorn|talk]] 07:01, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
* '''Yes''' per [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] and [[User:AndrewOne|AndrewOne]]. By all accounts the mixtape features as a "major work" in his career and thus should be included. [[User:Brandt Luke Zorn|BLZ]] raises an excellent point that it's important to distinguish between "major" and "minor" mixtapes for more prolific artists, but I think it's less of a concern in this particular case.--[[User:FacultiesIntact|FacultiesIntact]] ([[User talk:FacultiesIntact|talk]]) 00:13, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

=== Discussion ===
According to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians/Article guidelines#Discography section]], the discography section of the musician's primary article should <code>"provide a summary of the musician's major works. In most cases this is done using a simple list of their studio albums, leaving a complete listing of releases to the discography article."</code> I believe ''Nostalgia, Ultra'' is a major work for this artist and this is one of those uncommon cases where a simple list of studio albums doesn't suffice. The article gives enough coverage of this mixtape's significance in Ocean's career and discography to warrant inclusion in the section. I will highlight a key passage in the first paragraph of the lead: <code>He released his breakout mixtape, Nostalgia, Ultra, to critical acclaim in 2011. It generated his first charting single "Novacane". In 2012, Ocean finished in second place in BBC's Sound of 2012 poll.</code> There is also an entire subsection in the body of the article where the mixtape is the focal point; another key passage: <code>The mixtape made Ocean widely known and led to his collaborations with rappers Jay Z and Kanye West.</code> Furthermore, the largest portion of the "Controversies" section is a paragraph dedicated to one of the songs from the mixtape. The article on ''Nostalgia, Ultra'' itself fleshes out these points, particularly [[Nostalgia,_Ultra#Impact|the Impact section]]. [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 13:43, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
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== personal life ==

"Ocean became one of the first major African-American music artists to announce that he had fallen in love with someone of the same sex, notable because the music scene is known for homophobia.[63][64]"
if u wanna say hip hop is notorious for homophobia sure, but dont generalise it to all african american music please  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.7.236.204|71.7.236.204]] ([[User talk:71.7.236.204|talk]]) 19:46, 12 August 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Truthfully, does anyone care whether he is Gay or not?  What was/is the point of declaring one's sexuality?  It no longer has any impact and it is as predictable as any discussion of race, orientation or creed.  He is no Sam Cooke; Marvin Gaye; Stevie Wonder or Smokey Robinson.  He is ordinary as his his music and so-called creativity.  The declaration of his sexuality is simply a perfunctory and predictable mainfestation of Liberal Hollywood and the Arts...in general.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.122.209.54|69.122.209.54]] ([[User talk:69.122.209.54#top|talk]]) 20:53, 8 August 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Occupation ==

I added to the page that Frank is also a [[Rapping|rapper]]. In his solo career, he is only a [[singer-songwriter]] which originally was the only occupation listed. However, in OFWGKTA, there are several songs such as "Oldie" off of the group's album ''[[The OF Tape Vol. 2]]'' and [[Tyler, The Creator]]'s song "[[She (Tyler, The Creator song)|She]]" off his sophomore album ''[[Goblin (album)|Goblin]]'' in which Frank Ocean is actually rapping rather than singing (though he does actually sing the hook in "She"). I didn't add [[hip hop music]] to his genres because in his solo career he doesn't actually rap, however, he does rap in Odd Future. '''<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">[[User:TomUSA|<span style="color:Black;">Tom</span>]][[User talk:TomUSA|<span style="color:Orange;">US</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TomUSA|<span style="color:Orange;">A</span>]]</span>''' 01:08, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

: Please cite a source saying that he is a rapper. Otherwise, two instances doesnt make it his occupation. This would tie in to [[WP:Notability|notability]] and coverage from third-party sources, what the artists are known for, etc. [[User:Dan56|Dan56]] ([[User talk:Dan56|talk]]) 01:14, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

:: He's rapped in Tyler's "[[Goblin|Window]]", Earl Sweatshirt's "[[Doris (album)|Sunday]]", ASAP Rocky's "[[Testing (ASAP Rocky album)|Purity]]" and in one of his last singles "[[DHL (Frank Ocean song)|DHL]]". I'm pretty sure I heard some more as well. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Deluded communist|Deluded communist]] ([[User talk:Deluded communist#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Deluded communist|contribs]]) </span>

:::But the media calls him a singer who sometimes raps, that his rapping skill is a "secret weapon". The rapper label isn't so appropriate in that case. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 15:43, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

==2017–present: Blonded Radio, singles and third studio album==
The section titled "2017–present: Blonded Radio, singles and third studio album" has, in its current form at least, no mention of anything regarding a third studio album. [[User:Scatterkeir|Scatterkeir]] ([[User talk:Scatterkeir|talk]]) 08:33, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

==Frank Ocean lede occupations==

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Looking to gain consensus on what career '''notable''' occupations everyone thinks is fit for the lede per [[MOS:ROLEBIO]] (list all that apply)

*singer
*writer
*rapper
*record producer
*photographer
*visual artist

[[User:ChicagoWikiEditor|ChicagoWikiEditor]] ([[User talk:ChicagoWikiEditor|talk]]) 10:43, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

===Discussion===
*Based on the literal majority of the article, I suggest '''singer''' and at most '''singer and songwriter''', nothing else is significant enough. [[User:ChicagoWikiEditor|ChicagoWikiEditor]] ([[User talk:ChicagoWikiEditor|talk]]) 10:43, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
*'''Singer, rapper and songwriter''', the other stuff is barely mentioned in the lead -[[User:FMSky|FMSky]] ([[User talk:FMSky|talk]]) 21:14, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
*'''Only singer and songwriter'''; those are the main reasons he's notable, and accordingly, the other roles are given only brief mentions on his page. [[User:ModernDayTrilobite|ModernDayTrilobite]] ([[User talk:ModernDayTrilobite|talk]]) 21:41, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
*'''Rapper, singer and songwriter.''' Based on reliable sources, he is clearly a rapper. That seems to be what he is labeled the most in reliable sources actually. ––[[User:FormalDude|<span style="color: #0151D2;font-size:100%">FormalDude </span>]] <span style="border-radius:7em;padding:1.75px 3.25px;background:#005bed;font-size:75%">[[User talk:FormalDude|<span style="color:#FFF">'''talk'''</span>]]</span> 10:56, 22 October 2021 (UTC) {{Botsum}}
*'''Singer and songwriter''' or '''Rapper, singer and songwriter'''. None of his other activities are nearly notable enough. Several articles refer to him as a rapper, though he is still more notable as a singer, with even those publications admitting to this. I wouldn't protest against having rapper in the lede, but Singer and Songwriter are the only two elements that are absolutely essential to his description. [[User:PraiseVivec|PraiseVivec]] ([[User talk:PraiseVivec|talk]]) 18:14, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
* '''Singer and rapper''', in that order, although I would not oppose the inclusion of songwriter, as he has a number of songwriting credits on songs that are not his own. ChicagoWikiEditor seems to have decided that Ocean is not a rapper, and went further than paring down the lead sentence, removing “rapper” from the infobox as well. The man is clearly a rapper as supported by a predominance of sources. (And it would seem absurd to remove rapper, but not visual artist or photographer.) <span style="font-family:Avenir, Tenorite, Verdana, sans-serif">—&nbsp;<span style="border-radius:0.25em;padding:1px 4px 0;background:#faededAF">[[User:HTGS|HTGS]]</span>&nbsp;([[User talk:HTGS|talk]])</span> 01:19, 23 October 2021 (UTC) {{sbb}}

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== Birth name ==

[[User:Trillfendi]] has provided [https://www.californiabirthindex.org/birth/christopher_edwin_cooksey_born_1987_17846482 this link] to a person named "Christopher Edwin Cooksey", who this editor claims is in fact Frank Ocean.  User:Trillfendi has also inserted an editor's note reading "Note:His birth name is Christopher Edwin Cooksey, not Breaux".  This editor has reverted edits where reliable sources, such as [https://www.tmz.com/2015/04/23/frank-ocean-legal-name-change-granted/ TMZ], state "Christopher Edwin Breaux ... as in the name Frank was given at birth".  The input of others would be appreciated.  [[User:Magnolia677|Magnolia677]] ([[User talk:Magnolia677|talk]]) 17:53, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
:: If TMZ were considered a reliable source on this website then why does the insertion of references to them require additional secondary references to "better" sources to give them credit.... Births in California are public record. '''That’s law.''' So like I said, look up anybody with the surname Breaux born in California, in the Christopher category you get [https://www.californiabirthindex.org/fullname/breaux/christopher two men] named Christopher Michael Breaux and Christopher James Breaux. Neither of them  born on October 28, 1987. Neither of them were even born in the 80s. One of them wasn’t even born in Los Angeles County. Now why is it that Frank Ocean was born on October 28, 1987 and his father’s last name is Cooksey and his mother’s last name is Breaux; yet the other men have mothers with the maiden names Sims and Thomas respectively. Use common sense. Just because you have a personal incredulity fallacy doesn’t make it not the fact. If you have an issue with that take it up with the California Department of Public Health Vital Records. [[User:Trillfendi|Trillfendi]] ([[User talk:Trillfendi|talk]]) 18:29, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
:::Ok, what about [https://www.essence.com/news/frank-ocean-facts/ this link] to ''[[Essence (magazine)|Essence]]'': "Frank Ocean’s birth name is Christopher Edwin Breaux"? [[User:Magnolia677|Magnolia677]] ([[User talk:Magnolia677|talk]]) 19:22, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
::::It appears we have a genuine disagreement here, I have to be honest that while [[User:Trillfendi]]’s research is compelling it is also 100% [[WP:OR]]. Unless we have a [[WP:RS]] that says "Christopher Edwin Cooksey” it stays out of the article. [[User:Horse Eye Jack|Horse Eye Jack]] ([[User talk:Horse Eye Jack|talk]]) 02:14, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
::::: It's almost like that's why I kept leaving notes saying that the birth name should be completely removed until a reliable source is found so that BLP policy doesn't keep getting abused. But no... people repeatedly insisted upon putting "Christopher Edwin Breaux" there so I had enough. Accuracy over all else. [[User:Trillfendi|Trillfendi]] ([[User talk:Trillfendi|talk]]) 19:19, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
:::::: Sorry to revisit this, but I also believe the inclusion of his birth name counts as [[WP:OR]], where there are [[WP:RS]] articles that show his name to be "Christopher Edwin Breaux"<ref>https://www.wmagazine.com/story/frank-ocean-cover-story-interview/</ref>. Further, in his songs he uses his legal name for writing credits - "Christopher Breaux<ref>https://www.ascap.com/repertory#ace/performer/FRANK%20OCEAN
http://repertoire.bmi.com/Catalog.aspx?detail=writerid&page=1&fromrow=1&torow=25&keyid=1146702&subid=0</ref>.  The name Christopher Breaux was used for the songs "Cayendo" <ref>http://repertoire.bmi.com/DetailView.aspx?detail=titleid&keyid=42824122&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&blnAltTitles=True</ref> and "Dear April" <ref>http://repertoire.bmi.com/DetailView.aspx?detail=titleid&keyid=42824125&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&blnAltTitles=True</ref> which were released in 2020<ref>https://www.nme.com/news/music/frank-ocean-releases-dear-april-and-cayendo-on-streaming-services-2640337</ref>. While there may be confusion about his birth name, it is clear he currently uses "Christopher Breaux" as his legal name, thus, shouldn't we only be referring to his legal name?  Can the birth name references be removed until we can get 100% clarity on this? [[User:Doublebside|Doublebside]] ([[User talk:Doublebside|talk]]) 19:32, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::::::People can disagree with it but it’s (CBI) an acceptable source when no better ones are available. It’s even used in Good Articles. Original research would be pouring through court records of his name change to Frank Ocean. Original research is not using a source that compiles birth records. [[User:Trillfendi|Trillfendi]] ([[User talk:Trillfendi|talk]]) 21:18, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
::::::::[[User:Trillfendi|Trillfendi]] - can you elaborate on this statement then? "It's almost like that's why I kept leaving notes saying that the birth name should be completely removed until a reliable source is found so that BLP policy doesn't keep getting abused."  Why is the alleged birth name included at all in the article without [[WP:RS]]?[[User:Doublebside|Doublebside]] ([[User talk:Doublebside|talk]]) 17:39, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

::::::::here is the [https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/File:Christopher_edwin_cooksey_bc.jpg birth certificate of Christopher Edwin Cooksey] The mother's name is listed as Breaux, the father's as Cooksey, as well as the child's.[[User:Aloist|Aloist]] ([[User talk:Aloist|talk]]) 17:45, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
:This is OR. [https://www.wmagazine.com/story/frank-ocean-cover-story-interview From W Magazine]: "He was born Christopher Edwin Breaux and grew up in New Orleans, where he was raised by his mother." [[User:AllegedlyHuman|AllegedlyHuman]] ([[User talk:AllegedlyHuman|talk]]) 21:09, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
::California Birth Index cannot be used because of the [[WP:DOB]] guideline. But CBI is not wrong, and it totally disproves the Breaux surname. We can't put that into the article per [[WP:DOB]]. What we CAN do is remove the claimed surname Breaux because we know it is wrong. So it doesn't matter how many sources can be found supporting Breaux as the birth name—they are all based on public relations tales fabricated by Ocean and his people. They are all wrong. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 17:01, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Shouldn't it at least be mentioned that he wasn't born "Frank Ocean"? That's how the article reads now. [[User:Birdplay|Birdplay]] ([[User talk:Birdplay|talk]]) 11:55, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

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== Quick question ==

what does "elliptical" mean in the intro paragraph? I can't find any information on it. --[[User:Bumpf|Bumpf]] said this! <sup> [[User_talk:Bumpf|ooh clicky clicky!]] </sup> <nowiki>[insert witty meta-text on wiki-sigs here]</nowiki> 20:18, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

:{{Re|Bumpf}} Elliptical means using [[Ellipsis (linguistics)|ellipsis]], which is the omission from speech or writing of a word or words that are superfluous or able to be understood from contextual clues. ––[[User:FormalDude|<span style="color: #0151D2; font-family: Microsoft Sans Serif; letter-spacing: -.3px;">'''Formal'''{{color|black|'''Dude'''}}</span>]] <span style="border-radius:7em;padding:2.5px 3.5px;background:#005bed;font-size:76%">[[User talk:FormalDude|<span style="color:#FFF">'''talk'''</span>]]</span> 20:22, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2022 ==

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Source 151, the article by Joyce Chen, has a link that no longer works. The article's title was changed so the link was changed, the link should be changed to: https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/b-singer-frank-ocean-odd-future-summer-romance-man-changed-life-article-1.1107779 [[User:Rustypython|Rustypython]] ([[User talk:Rustypython|talk]]) 20:08, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
: {{done}} and added archive link. '''[[User:TheGoodAndHolyLord|<span style="background:#222;color:gold;padding:1px 3px;">TG</span>]][[User talk:TheGoodAndHolyLord|<span style="background:gold;color:#111;padding:1px 3px;">HL&nbsp;↗</span>]]'''&nbsp;🍁 20:32, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

== Name Change ==

The legal name listed at the very beginning of the page is still listed as "Christopher Francis Ocean". Since 2015, Frank's legal name has been "Frank Ocean". The "Name Change" section of the page has already reflected this for a while. Source: [https://www.thefader.com/2015/04/23/frank-ocean-legally-changed-his-name-to-frank-ocean] [[User:Gayfurryvore123|Gayfurryvore123]] ([[User talk:Gayfurryvore123|talk]]) 20:29, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2023 ==

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Hi I think due to his behaviour I think it’s. Best if we delete his page [[Special:Contributions/101.162.94.19|101.162.94.19]] ([[User talk:101.162.94.19|talk]]) 09:23, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> If you think a page should be deleted, you need to start one of the [[WP:DELETE| deletion processes]]. However, this is clearly not a serious request, so I doubt you'd have much success. Wikipedia does not delete articles based on alleged unethical behaviour by the subject. [[User:Actualcpscm|Actualcpscm]] ([[User talk:Actualcpscm|talk]]) 09:55, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

== Controversies ==

due to the enormous controversies that came out for his Coachella performance, i think that it needs to be covered on this article [[User:Phone thanos|Phone thanos]] ([[User talk:Phone thanos|talk]]) 12:29, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

:The controversies linked to his 2023 Coachella performance are covered in the last paragraph of the "[[Frank Ocean#2017–present: Blonded Radio, singles and Homer|2017–present: ''Blonded Radio'', singles and Homer]]" section. -- [[User:Kzkzb|Kzkzb]] ([[User talk:Kzkzb|talk]]) 14:53, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
::Oops, thank you [[User:Phone thanos|Phone thanos]] ([[User talk:Phone thanos|talk]]) 13:27, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2023 ==

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 [[User:Iam2kwaai|Iam2kwaai]] ([[User talk:Iam2kwaai|talk]]) 07:12, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
frank ocean is dead
:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 12:35, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

==edit request==

According to the source, Frank Ocean's dad left when he was 6 and he hasn't seen him since, his parents did not divorce <ref></ref> https://www.gq.com/story/frank-ocean-interview-gq-december-2012 [[User:My6790|My6790]] ([[User talk:My6790|talk]]) 14:28, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2023 ==

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*** UPDATE AGE, PLEASE CHANGE 35 to 36 *** [[Special:Contributions/2600:1002:B00F:A20B:A115:73B0:4F5:9580|2600:1002:B00F:A20B:A115:73B0:4F5:9580]] ([[User talk:2600:1002:B00F:A20B:A115:73B0:4F5:9580|talk]]) 08:32, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 11:34, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
::It seems clear to me – however someone born October 28, 1987 as stated in the article will be 35, not 36, until October 28, 2023. The age will update automatically. [[User:Tollens|Tollens]] ([[User talk:Tollens|talk]]) 11:40, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2023 ==

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change name to Christopher Edwin Breaux [[User:Ceceloe1212|Ceceloe1212]] ([[User talk:Ceceloe1212|talk]]) 04:36, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> We already list that name in the lead and the early life section. We're not changing the article name, see [[WP:COMMONNAME]] [[User:Cannolis|Cannolis]] ([[User talk:Cannolis|talk]]) 07:03, 3 December 2023 (UTC)