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== GE weapons ==
Should we put something about GE's weapons? GE has made the M61 Vulcan and M134 Minigun. [[User:DJRaph|DJRaph]] ([[User talk:DJRaph|talk]]) 18:40, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

== GE Healthcare Spinoff ==
With the completion of the GE Healthcare spin-off on Jan 4th, 2022, what changes should be made to reflect this change? I propose that we move the divisions that have been spun-off from the "subsidiary" list to the "Successor" category. When GE Vernova and GE Aerospace are split-up next year, they will be added to the category as well with their own pages while making this page historical.

Feedback for such a change would be appreciated,

[[User:SonicDJM|SonicDJM]] ([[User talk:SonicDJM|talk]]) 22:55, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

:I agree with this. GE Aerospace is a successor to General Electric so it should be a separate page and the GE page should then go to using past tense with three successors. [[User:Tfkalk|Tfkalk]] ([[User talk:Tfkalk|talk]]) 03:59, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

== GE Vernova spinoff ==

Since '''GE Vernova''' will be trading soon, I have prepared a [[Draft:GE Vernova|draft]] for the page. [[User:WiinterU|WiinterU]] ([[User talk:WiinterU|talk]]) 14:13, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

:About time. I don’t know why anyone else wasn’t doing anything about it. Good job. [[User:320th Century|320th Century]] ([[User talk:320th Century|talk]]) 17:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you [[User:WiinterU|WiinterU]] ([[User talk:WiinterU|talk]]) 18:00, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

== General Electric: The Century-Old Octopus  ==

Crazy how this company’s products ranged from machine guns, to washing machines, from light bulbs, to Broadcasting networks, to Football helmets,
 and Nuclear energy. [[User:320th Century|320th Century]] ([[User talk:320th Century|talk]]) 18:56, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

== General Electric successor [[GE Aerospace]] ==

Since General Electric will be succeeded by [[GE Aerospace]], we will have to update these pages to reflect that. 

{{Infobox company
| name = GE Aerospace, Inc.
| logo = GE Aerospace logo.svg
| image = GE Aerospace Headquarters Complex Evendale Ohio 2023.JPG
| image_caption = Headquarters complex in [[Evendale, Ohio]]
| former_name = Aircraft Gas Turbine Division <br/> General Electric Aircraft Engines <br/> GE Aviation
| type = [[Public company|Public]]
| traded_as = {{NYSE|GE}}
| industry = [[Aerospace]]
| predecessor = [[General Electric]]
| foundation = {{Start date and age|1917}}<ref name="gea_history">"[http://www.geaviation.com/aboutgeae/history.html GE Aviation: History] {{webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131004213036/http://www.geaviation.com/aboutgeae/history.html |date=2013-10-04 }}." GE Aviation website.</ref>
| location_city = Evendale, Ohio
| location_country = United States<ref name="gea_facilities">"[http://www.geaviation.com/aboutgeae/facilities/index.html GE Aviation: Facilities] {{webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20111019142715/http://www.geaviation.com/aboutgeae/facilities/index.html |date=2011-10-19 }}." GE Aviation website.</ref>
| key_people = [[H. Lawrence Culp Jr.]] ([[President (corporate title)|president]] & [[Chief executive officer|CEO]])
| products = [[Jet engine|Aircraft engines]]<br>[[Avionics]]
| revenue = {{increase}} [[United States dollar|US$]] 31.770billion (2024)<ref name=2018_10-K>{{Cite web|url=https://www.annualreports.com/HostedData/AnnualReports/PDF/NYSE_GE_2018.pdf|title=2018 Annual Report|website=Annualreports.com|access-date=2021-01-12|archive-date=2019-04-14|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190414192802/https://www.annualreports.com/HostedData/AnnualReports/PDF/NYSE_GE_2018.pdf|url-status=dead}}</ref><br>
{{0}} - Equipment :: {{increase}}US$ 11.499 billion<br>
{{0}} - Services   {{0}}  :: {{increase}}US$ 19.067 billion
| operating_income = {{increase}} US$ 6.115 billion (2024)<ref name=2018_10-K/>
| net_income = 
| num_employees = 48,000 (2018)
| parent = [[General Electric]] (1907{{ndash}}2024)
| subsid = {{ubl|[[GE Aviation Systems]]|[[Walter Aircraft Engines]]|[[GE Honda Aero Engines]] (50%)|[[CFM International]] (50%)|[[Engine Alliance]] (50%)|Aviage Systems (50%)|[[Dowty Propellers]]|GE Additive|[[Avio#The spin-off in 2012|Avio Aero]]|CFM Materials (50%)|XEOS (49%)|Advanced Ceramic Coatings (50%)|[[Unison Industries]]}}
| homepage = {{URL|https://www.geaerospace.com/}}
| footnotes = 
}}

Do you agree with these infoboxes?

{{Infobox company
| name = General Electric Company
| logo = [[File:General Electric logo.svg|150px]]
| type = [[Public company|Public]]
| traded_as = {{ubl|class=nowrap|{{NYSE was|GE}}|[[S&P 100]] component|[[S&P 500]] component}}
| ISIN = {{ISIN|sl=n|pl=y| US3696043013}} (since 2021)
| industry = [[Conglomerate (company)|Conglomerate]]
| predecessor = Edison General Electric Company<br />[[Thomson-Houston Electric Company]]
| founded = {{Start date and age|1892|4|15}} {{nowrap|in [[Schenectady, New York]], US}}
| founders = {{ubl|[[Charles A. Coffin]]|[[Thomas Edison]]|[[J. P. Morgan]]}}
| defunct = {{End date and age|2024|04|02}}
| fate = Spin-off of assets and rebrand to [[GE Aerospace]]
| successors = {{ubl|[[GE Aerospace]]|[[GE HealthCare]]|GE Vernova}}
| location = [[Boston]], Massachusetts, U.S.
| area_served = Worldwide
| key_people = [[H. Lawrence Culp Jr.]] ([[chairman]] & [[Chief executive officer|CEO]])
| products = {{hlist|[[Aircraft engine]]s|[[Electric power distribution|Electrical distribution]]|[[Energy]]|[[Finance]]|[[Software]]|[[Wind turbine]]s}}
| revenue = {{increase}} {{US$|67.954 billion|link=yes}} (2023)
| operating_income = {{increase}} {{US$|9.029 billion}} (2023)
| net_income = {{increase}} {{US$|9.443 billion}} (2023)
| assets = {{decrease}} {{US$|163.05 billion}} (2023)
| equity = {{decrease}} {{US$|28.579 billion}} (2023)
| num_employees = 125,000 (2023)
| subsid = {{ubl|[[GE Aerospace]]|[[GE Capital]]|[[GE Digital]]|[[GE Power]]|[[GE Renewable Energy]]|[[GE Research]]}}
| website = {{Official URL}}
| footnotes = <ref name=sec10kge2024>{{Cite report |url=https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/40545/000004054524000027/ge-20231231.htm  |title=General Electric Company, Form 10-K (Annual Report) |date=2 February 2024 |publisher=US Securities and Exchange Commission |access-date=11 February 2024 }}</ref>
}} [[User:WiinterU|WiinterU]] ([[User talk:WiinterU|talk]]) 03:45, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

:Yeah. [[User:320th Century|320th Century]] ([[User talk:320th Century|talk]]) 11:22, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

: I'm not sure that's correct; at least based on reading the SEC filings this week, General Electric Company is still the legal name of the company, "GE Aerospace" is just a dba. Furthermore, the rump GE is the owner/licensor of the "GE" word mark and the GE monogram trademark, collecting licensing revenue from GEV, GEHC, and other past spinoffs. [[Special:Contributions/207.180.169.36|207.180.169.36]] ([[User talk:207.180.169.36|talk]]) 16:24, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
::There generally has to be a legal successor, for a variety of reasons. However, we don't always get so deep into the legal weeds. We can note the strict legalities in the main text, and in notes in the infobox. [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 19:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
:::Something like GE is never legally gone. It had too many legal tentacles. [[User:320th Century|320th Century]] ([[User talk:320th Century|talk]]) 22:48, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
::GE is defunct. Since there is already a page for [[GE Aerospace]], we will be using that. <sup>[[User:WiinterU|<span style="color: blue">Wii</span>]]</sup><small>[[Special:Contribs/WiinterU|<span style="color: purple">nter</span>]]</small><sub>[[User talk:WiinterU|<span style="color: turquoise">U</span>]]</sub> 00:26, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:::I know that. Again, it isn’t gone on paper. [[User:320th Century|320th Century]] ([[User talk:320th Century|talk]]) 02:17, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
::::The original company is gone on paper. GE Aerospace is the legal successor. <sup>[[User:WiinterU|<span style="color: blue">Wii</span>]]</sup><small>[[Special:Contribs/WiinterU|<span style="color: purple">nter</span>]]</small><sub>[[User talk:WiinterU|<span style="color: turquoise">U</span>]]</sub> 17:29, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::I came to the same conclusion as the IP user when I read the SEC filing (haven't looked for a secondary source). The GE spin-offs are basically demergers, with the "surviving" company being rebranded to GE Aerospace. A somewhat recent and similar example would be the Kellogg Company: WK Kellogg Co. was the spin-off company and the surviving company rebranded to Kellanova. In that case, the legal name of Kellogg Company actually changed to Kellanova though. In this case, the legal name still remains as General Electric and only the dba name has changed (to GE Aerospace). In any case, any future business activity should only be updated in the spin-off (GEHC and GEV) and surviving company (GE Aerospace) pages, and not here. [[User:Ptrnext|Ptrnext]] ([[User talk:Ptrnext|talk]]) 07:24, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

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== Political influence ==

What about a section on world wide influence and the companies it controlled indirectly? [[Special:Contributions/86.174.43.48|86.174.43.48]] ([[User talk:86.174.43.48|talk]]) 17:27, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

:Could you provide an example of this? —<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">[[User:Panamitsu|Panamitsu]]</span> [[User_talk:Panamitsu|(talk)]] 22:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
::An example from reliable sources, preferably in-depth coverage. [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 22:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)