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== Article split ==

Since TV-am was an ITV franchise, and the new GMB is essentially a re-boot of the old, I'm not sure this split was warranted without discussion/vote. At the very least, the old one should be mentioned in the new one's article or lede (not just the hatnote), and vice versa. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 15:15, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

:It is suitable to have a split as one is the 1983 TV-am and this is the 2014 ITV Breakfast. Different production company etc. Avoids confusion for readers. [[User:This is Drew|This is Drew]] ([[User talk:This is Drew|talk]]) 16:21, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

::To repeat the essential part of my communication above, both programmes air(ed) on ITV (TV-am was a merely a franchise of ITV), and the new one is essentially a rebooot of the old one. '''At the very least, the old one should be mentioned in the new one's article body text or lede (not just the hatnote), and vice versa.''' [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 21:53, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

==RFC==
There's an open [[WP:RFC]] about the use of the hatnote the article uses [[Talk:Good_Morning_Britain_(1983)#RfC:_Does_the_articles_Good_Morning_Britain_.281983.29_and_Good_Morning_Britain_.282014.29_need_a_hatnote.3F|at Talk:Good Morning Britain (1983)]]. [[WP:CC-BY-SA|<span style="color:#000000;">©</span>]] [[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color:#6082B6;">hotch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#555555;"><big>™</big></span>]]</sup> ([[User:Tbhotch/EN|en-2.5]]). 22:41, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

== Article title ==
It is suitable for the article to be titled "Good Morning Britain (2014)" and not "Good Morning Britain (TV programme)" as it avoids confusion with article of similar name "Good Morning Britain (1983)". [[User:This is Drew|This is Drew]] ([[User talk:This is Drew|talk]]) 16:21, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

2014 is also the debut year of the new programme. [[User:This is Drew|This is Drew]] ([[User talk:This is Drew|talk]]) 17:59, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

:Please see Move Request below and add your !vote and reasoning. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 22:57, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

==Requested move 1==

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The result of the move request was: '''No consensus''', not moved. {{RMnac}} [[User:DavidLeighEllis|DavidLeighEllis]] ([[User talk:DavidLeighEllis|talk]]) 03:54, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

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* [[:Good Morning Britain (2014)]] → {{no redirect|Good Morning Britain (ITV TV programme)}}
* [[:Good Morning Britain (1983)]] → {{no redirect|Good Morning Britain (TV-am TV programme)}}
– or [[Good Morning Britain (2014 TV programme)]] and [[Good Morning Britain (1983 TV programme)]]. A move-war over something with a simple solution. [[WP:CC-BY-SA|<span style="color:#000000;">©</span>]] [[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color:#6082B6;">hotch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#555555;"><big>™</big></span>]]</sup> ([[User:Tbhotch/EN|en-2.5]]). 22:41, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per [[WP:CONCISE]] and [[WP:PRECISION]]. The current parenthetical dates are easily sufficient to differentiate between the two programmes. The words "TV Programme" are unnecessary because there are no other entities (or articles) called "Good Morning Britain". Adding "ITV" or "TV-am" brings in innumerable problems, because BOTH programmes air(ed) on ITV, so they are both in essence ITV programmes (TV-am was simply an ITV franchisee). There is no reason to complicate or muddy what is a simple matter of two similar ITV programs: one in the 1980s and one in 2014. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 22:55, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
**[[WP:NCTV]] is the guideline which has "power" in such situations. If you disagree with it visit [[Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)]] and request [[Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(television)#Additional_disambiguation]] to be removed. Also, per "[[TV-am]]" article, it was a broadcaster and neither [[WP:CONCISE]] and [[WP:PRECISION]] give a reason to oppose [[Good Morning Britain (2014 TV programme)]] and [[Good Morning Britain (1983 TV programme)]] disambiguation. [[WP:CC-BY-SA|<span style="color:#000000;">©</span>]] [[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color:#6082B6;">hotch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#555555;"><big>™</big></span>]]</sup> ([[User:Tbhotch/EN|en-2.5]]). 23:07, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

::: Per [[WP:NCTV]], "TV series" or "TV programme" is only needed when disambiguation is required. As I mentioned above, there are no other entities or articles called "Good Morning Britain", therefore no disambiguation is required. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 23:14, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
::::Disambiguation is required. You said that [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Good_Morning_Britain_(1983)&diff=prev&oldid=598022344 "the programmes are either the same or are so closely related"], therefore, there is ambiguity, and the year alone gives no enough context what the article is about. [[WP:CC-BY-SA|<span style="color:#000000;">©</span>]] [[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color:#6082B6;">hotch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#555555;"><big>™</big></span>]]</sup> ([[User:Tbhotch/EN|en-2.5]]). 23:33, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::There is never reason to give "context what the article is about" in an article title unless there are other unrelated entities/articles with the same name, as detailed in [[WP:NCTV]] and [[WP:DAB]]. Disambiguation in Wikipedia is the process of resolving the conflicts that arise <u>when a single term is ambiguous—when it refers to more than one topic covered by Wikipedia</u>. There are no other topics on Wikipedia for the term "Good Morning Britain" other than this TV show which has spawned a revival two decades later. That's why [[WP:CONCISE]] and [[WP:PRECISION]] apply here. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 23:42, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
::::::Your comment resolves my doubt why the articles [[The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (1947)]] and [[The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (2013)]] are titled like that, they are "related entities/articles with the same name". Thanks for commenting, but I have better things to do than discussing with someone who invests too much time with discussions about breakfast television. This is a RM discussion, so other people will decide who has a better argument. [[WP:CC-BY-SA|<span style="color:#000000;">©</span>]] [[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color:#6082B6;">hotch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#555555;"><big>™</big></span>]]</sup> ([[User:Tbhotch/EN|en-2.5]]). 00:01, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
*'''Use''' [[Good Morning Britain (2014 TV series)]] and [[Good Morning Britain (1983 TV series)]] per [[WP:NCTV]]; The [[Good Morning Britain (ITV TV programme)]], [[Good Morning Britain (TV-am TV programme)]], [[Good Morning Britain (ITV)]], [[Good Morning Britain (TV-am)]], [[Good Morning Britain (ITV TV program)]], [[Good Morning Britain (TV-am TV program)]] should redirect to the respective articles. [[Good Morning Britain (TV programme)]], [[Good Morning Britain (TV)]], [[Good Morning Britain (TV program)]], [[Good Morning Britain (TV series)]], [[Good Morning Britain (British TV series)]], [[Good Morning Britain (UK TV series)]] should redirect to the disambiguation page. -- [[Special:Contributions/70.50.151.11|70.50.151.11]] ([[User talk:70.50.151.11|talk]]) 03:27, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' - The 2014 and 1983 disambiguations do the job that is required of them, in a simple common sense way. - [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 12:37, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
*'''Neutral''' - But oppose the move to '(ITV TV programme)' and '(TVam TV programme)', TVam was an ITV franchise, but regarded as a separate channel, but broadcast on Channel 3, of which was commonly known as ITV. If that makes sense? --&nbsp;'''<nowiki>[[</nowiki>'''&nbsp;[[User:AxG|<span style="color:#000;font-family:SwissMad, Arial;">axg</span>]][[Special:Contributions/AxG|<span style="color:#4169E1;">&nbsp;'''//'''&nbsp;</span>]][[User talk:AxG|<span style="color:#000;">✉</span>]]'''&nbsp;<nowiki>]]</nowiki>''' 13:03, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
*'''Support move''' to [[Good Morning Britain (2014 TV series)]] and [[Good Morning Britain (1983 TV series)]] per [[WP:NCTV]] and [[WP:PRECISION]].  By year alone doesn't tell us whether it's a film, book, song, whatever.  --[[User:Robsinden|Rob Sinden]] ([[User talk:Robsinden|talk]]) 14:17, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
::"Series" would be the wrong disambiguation as they are not series type programmes. They don't have series 1, 2, 3 etc they are continuous programmes. - [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 10:03, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
:::I'm okay with [[Good Morning Britain (2014 TV programme)]] and [[Good Morning Britain (1983 TV programme)]].  [[WP:NCTV]] supports this, but it doesn't support disambiguation by year alone.  --[[User:Robsinden|Rob Sinden]] ([[User talk:Robsinden|talk]]) 12:47, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
::: They are "series" by NCTV's definition of 'series' (ie, the North American one, not the British one), continuously airing series of episodes is a "series", while a selection segregated to a TV-airing block-year (ie. "season" in North America) is not a "series" but part of one. I don't see why they didn't just choose "TV show" as the disambiguation form when they wrote up NCTV. -- [[Special:Contributions/70.50.151.11|70.50.151.11]] ([[User talk:70.50.151.11|talk]]) 06:16, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
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== Requested move 2 ==
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The result of the proposal was '''not moved'''. - As per AxG the page has been moved far too many times and had caused quite alot of chaos. Please read [[WP:Requested moves]]. -[[User:Davey2010|<span style="color:blue;">'''''→Davey'''''</span><span style="color:blue;">'''''2010→'''''</span>]][[User talk:Davey2010|<span style="color:orange;">'''''→Talk to me!→'''''</span>]] 19:06, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Good Morning Britain (2014 TV programme) → Good Morning Britain (ITV 2014 TV Show). Belongs to ITV and is a TV Show. [[User:Zackdichens12|Zackdichens12]] ([[User talk:Zackdichens12|talk]]) 09:28, 21 April 2014 (UTC).
:Please see: [[Wikipedia:Requested moves]] on how to format your request. The current disambiguation is perfectly fine, as there is no need to use 'ITV', unless there are two articles, which are both called 'Good Morning Britain', created in the same year. --&nbsp;'''<nowiki>[[</nowiki>'''&nbsp;[[User:AxG|<span style="color:#000;font-family:SwissMad, Arial;">axg</span>]][[Special:Contributions/AxG|<span style="color:#4169E1;">&nbsp;'''//'''&nbsp;</span>]][[User talk:AxG|<span style="color:#000;">✉</span>]]'''&nbsp;<nowiki>]]</nowiki>''' 11:08, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
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==Infobox colour August 2014==
I will add #f89f0e for the infobox bgcolour with the colour text #fff over the coming weeks as it would suit this page with the list of presenters and reporters obtaining this colour. If you have any objection please respond. Thank you.[[User:JohnGormleyJG|JohnGormleyJG]] ([[User talk:JohnGormleyJG|talk]]) 20:19, 4 August 2014 (UTC)JohnGormleyJG

== Awards section ==

There's a disagreement about the newly created awards section that needs to be discussed.

{{user|94.1.144.161}} added the section with [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Good_Morning_Britain_%282014_TV_programme%29&diff=prev&oldid=651115089 this edit],  it looked like this:

{{divbox|navy|radius=4em|94.1.144.161|Less than 1 year of being in air in ITV, Good Morning Britain won their first award when Sussana Reid won 'Newsreader of the year' on Tuesday 10th March 2015. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2988329/Susanna-Reid-s-curves-spotlight-fitted-red-dress-scoops-presenting-prize-TRIC-Awards.html}}

I think there are a couple of things wrong with this, the main one being the Daily Mail reference, its by the fashion section and its obsessed with her dress, her looks and other non-notable waffle, you have to dig deep down into it, past loads of adverts and waffle about other celebs to find the actual name of the award that she won.

I edited the section, I changed the reference to one from the BBC and I also added the info that this was the second time she had won the award (from the BBC reference), The first time being last year while working for BBC Breakfast.

{{divbox|navy|radius=4em|X201|Susanna Reid won 'Newsreader of the year' at the 2015 TRIC Awards, she retained the award that she won the previous year while working on BBC Breakfast. <ref>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31813807</ref>}}

*User 94.1.144.161 reverted back to their version
*{{user|Anaxial}} reverted that back to my version.
*User 94.1.144.161 reverted back to their version and added other trivia e.g ''"Unlike on Daybreak, Richard Arnold now wears a suit and tie during his bulletins."''
*I undid these additions as well as restoring the awards section back to Anaxial's revert.
*94.1.144.161 blanked the section and added ''"It took me ages to write that!"'' to the article
*ClueBot reverted that as vandalism
*New user {{user|Cramlington News}} re-adds the awards section using the same format that 94.1.144.161 did.
*Six hours later, I revert it, and then realise I'm in [[WP:3RR]] territory so self revert.

And that's why I've brought it here, so that a discussion can resolve what goes in the awards section; or if its even relevant to GMB, as its Reid winning the award and not the show. - [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 09:27, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

== POV Statements ==

1) ''''its theme tune sounds very similar to the song "fly on the wings of love"''''. ''That seems like a personal opinion, and as far as I know the theme song was written from scratch.''
2) ''''It replaced the short-lived Daybreak''''. ''Was it short lived? Is that not an opinion? Four years (or so) seems a relatively long time.''
--[[User:Htchngs|htchngs]] ([[User talk:Htchngs|talk]]) 13:53, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

== Alphabitcal Order ==

I must admit I do not agree with having the presenters listed in alphabetical order. That is more a category listing for a category article. Not to be used in sections informing about the presenters. This gets quite unencyclopedic and drifting away from how they are credited. Thank You! '''-- [[User:JohnGormleyJG|'''<span style="color:#039DE5;">John</span><span style="color:#A4DB0b;">Gormley</span><span style="color:#039DE5;">J</span><span style="color:#A8DB0B;">G</span>''']] ([[User talk:JohnGormleyJG#top|<big>✉</big>]]) ''' 14:19, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

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== Related article for deletion ==

There has been a [[Good Morning Britain Presenters By Date|page created]] by [[Special:Contributions/Truelies12221|User:Truelies12221]] that has been nominated for deletion. Please see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Good Morning Britain Presenters By Date|here]] for the discussion. Thanks. ☔️ <span style="background:#231F20; color:#FFFFFF; border:1px solid #231F20">Corkythe</span><span style="background:#BB8D0A; color:#FFFFFF; border:1px solid #231F20">[[User talk:Corkythehornetfan|<span style="color:white">hornetfan</span>]]</span> ☔️ 18:43, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

== Requested move 3 ==

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The result of the move request was: '''not moved'''. [[User:Jenks24|Jenks24]] ([[User talk:Jenks24|talk]]) 14:39, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

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* [[:Good Morning Britain (2014 TV programme)]] → {{no redirect|Good Morning Britain}}
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– Clear primary topic. Programme is here to stay as far as we know and it gets 17 times more views.[https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/#project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-90&pages=Good_Morning_Britain_(2014_TV_programme)|Good_Morning_Britain_(1983_TV_programme)|Good_Morning_Britain_(song)] [[User:Unreal7|Unreal7]] ([[User talk:Unreal7|talk]]) 21:55, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' [[Good Morning Britain (1983 TV programme)]] ran February 1983-1992. This one is [[WP:RECENT]]. Deliberately ambiguating titles is obstructive to users. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 06:32, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per IIO & the above requests - No need to confuse anyone. –[[User:Davey2010|<span style="color: blue;">'''Davey'''</span><span style="color: orange;">'''2010'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Davey2010|<span style="color: navy;">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup> 21:13, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per the aboves -- [[Special:Contributions/70.51.46.195|70.51.46.195]] ([[User talk:70.51.46.195|talk]]) 07:39, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per [[Wikipedia:Recentism]] and [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]]. '''[[User:CookieMonster755|CookieMonster755]] <sup>[[User_talk:CookieMonster755|📞]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:EmailUser/CookieMonster755|✉]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/CookieMonster755|✓]]</sup>''' 18:35, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
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== Presenters ==

Just leaving a note on this page to say that I have again reverted the edits made by [[User:JohnGormleyJG|JohnGormleyJG]] to the presenter list. This is (supposedly) an encyclopaedic article. Information needs to be both presented clearly and as easily understood as possible, and the addition of trivial 'keys' like 'A' or 'N' works entirely against the principle. This is not a fan site. All that is required here is the name of the presenter and their role on the programme - it's that simple! A 'key' is entirely unnecessary and quite confusing to follow. References from trusted sources would be welcome additions. I'm not quite sure why certain users are insistent on making simple information harder to understand. '''[[User:LBM|<span style="color:blue;">LBM</span>]]''' <small><sup>'''''[[User talk:LBM|<span style="color:darkblue;">talk to me</span>]]'''''</sup></small> 00:00, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Just leaving a note on this page to say that I have again reverted the edits made by an anonymous user adding John Stapleton and Kate Garraway to the Guest Presenters list, this should not be donevas they were relief presenters not guest presenters. [[User:Truelies12221|Truelies12221]] ([[User talk:Truelies12221|talk]]) 15:03, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Speaking of presenters, it has been hinted that Ben Shephard could leave Good Morning Britain this year and be replaced by Richard Madeley. However, I will not jump to conclusions. Instead, I'm going to wait until I see official confirmation from either Ben Shephard or ITV themselves first, and then update the page. (Either way, I don't blame Shephard for leaving GMB, he's guaranteed to stay on at Tipping Point and Ninja Warrior UK anyway) [[User:Kangaflora|Kangaflora]] ([[User talk:Kangaflora|talk]]) 21:37, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

== Time on tv screen  ==

I’ve noticed that the live time on good morning is one hour behind ??   [[User:Bups1980|Bups1980]] ([[User talk:Bups1980|talk]]) 09:01, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

==Update Suggestion==
[[Good Morning Britain (2014 TV programme)]] is lacking and needs upgrading, i have a suggestion and thats to merge it into [[Good Morning Britain (1983 TV programme)]] and become one [[Good Morning Britain]] and adding updated info may help.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Foxerman|Foxerman]] ([[User talk:Foxerman#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Foxerman|contribs]]) 00:22, 17 July 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Piers Morgan controversy ==

I have added some information under the 2021 section regarding the Piers Morgan / Meghan Markle controversy. I feel like this has been poorly worded so I want to know what your thoughts are. - [[User:XxLuckyCxX|XxLuckyCxX]] ([[User talk:XxLuckyCxX|talk]]) 18:33, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

== Adil Ray ==

I thought I'd start a discussion to try and stop an edit war on the page.

I don't think that Adil Ray should be added to the main presenters list. I know he's presenting for a month but that's not permanent. Jeremy Kyle etc have presented the programme during Piers Morgan's summer break before and they've not been added as a main presenter, they're on the guest presenter list. Therefore Adil Ray should be the same.-- [[User:5 albert square|5 albert square]] ([[User talk:5 albert square|talk]]) 17:27, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Currently Adil is a main presenter so he should be on the list [[User:Peterrrroblox|Peterrrroblox]] ([[User talk:Peterrrroblox|talk]]) 17:43, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
:We go with what the reliable source tell us. In this case the reliable source is the [https://www.itv.com/goodmorningbritain/presenters Meet the Team] section of the Good Morning Britain pages on the ITV website. Adil Ray is not listed in the presenters section. Therefore he should not be in the Main Presenters section of this article. Also, that whole '''unverified''' section is sailing very close to [[WP:INDISCRIMINATE]]. Just a reminder that [[WP:V]] and [[WP:INDISCRIMINATE]] are policy, not guidelines. - [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 08:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't believe this is a reliable source since people like Ranvir are missing so it is clearly not properly updated[[User:Peterrrroblox|Peterrrroblox]] ([[User talk:Peterrrroblox|talk]]) 16:12, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
:Not properly updated? Yet they've removed Piers Morgan? it's a reliable source. Anything else is [[WP:OR]] - [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 07:37, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

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