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== Inconsistent authors ==

{{ping|Editoronthewiki}} Hello there. In your [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Mark_Antony&diff=1147113267&oldid=1146974052&diffmode=source recent edits], you added two references to – presumably? – the same book but credited two different authors, one Barry Strauss and one Ian Davidson. Could you clarify in the article as to which is which? 

Also, if you're interested in further additions to the article, I'd highly recommend finding if possible a copy of CAH<sup>2</sup> 9 (1994), which provides a detailed narrative of this period in chapters 11–12. Morstein-Marx's ''Julius Caesar and the Roman people'' (2021) I think gives the best recent analysis of whether Caesar really wanted to be king and includes including the diadem incident and the differences between the five sources: Dio, Appian, Suetonius, Plutarch (wrong as usual), and Nicholaus. [[User:Ifly6|Ifly6]] ([[User talk:Ifly6|talk]]) 00:54, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
*{{ping|Ifly6}} Ah, I'm sorry about that! fixed. Thank you for the recommendations as well. [[User:Editoronthewiki|Editoronthewiki]] ([[User talk:Editoronthewiki|talk]]) 01:07, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

== Dubious ==

There's a number of dubious claims that I've reworked rather quickly.
* In the lede, the senate doesn't declare war: the people (in the centuries) do.
* The [[First Triumvirate]] isn't some kind of backroom coup. The allies were unpopular, knew it, and any domination was shortlived. See eg Gruen ''LGRR'' (1995) or our own article on the First Triumvirate.
* Legate is not a ''rank''. It is a position.
* The death of Julia in 54 had little to do with the falling out between Pompey and Caesar; again see Gruen ''LGRR'' (1995).
* Milo is not a Pompeian ally; he gets thrown under the bus immediately. Nor is he an "optimate". The "optimates" don't exist... Milo's activities are just as self-serving as Clodius'.
* The pontifex maximus is not the {{tq|head of the [sic] Roman religion}}. The pontifices, augurs, and quindecemviri are all separate priests; there is no "head".
* Antony took over Curio's place in the tribunes; the idea of "both Pompey and Caesar lay down their commands" did not emerge from Antony. The idea that Caesar was afraid of prosecution is dubious. See Morstein-Marx ''Caesar'' (2021) App'x 4; also [[Caesar's civil war]] and [[Julius Caesar]].
* Antony was not expelled from Rome; Antony left after the senate said his safety could not be guaranteed.
* Caesar wasn't declared a traitor, just ''hostis''.
* A propraetor need not previously be a praetor. Cato in 58&nbsp;BC is pro quaestore pro praetore. Similarly, proconsuls many times by this point had been appointed without holding the consulship.
* Lots of "Antony is Caesar's top general" fluff. [[WP:PEACOCK]].
* Caesar was made dictator in absentia in 48 after Pharsalus. The 11-day dictatorship was in 49, when Caesar in Italy. These should not be confused. Caesar did not sail to Italy then hop back to Greece to pursue Pompey. He pursued him directly through Asia minor.
* Meier ''Caesar'' (1995), Badian in OCD<sup>4</sup>, etc agree that Caesar had no knowable constitutional programme.
* Octavian never called himself {{Tq|Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus}}.
* Lepidus was ''elected'' pontifex maximus, albeit irregularly.
* Octavian was ''elected'' consul in August 43, albeit irregularly.
* There's no reason to set up the proscriptions then not talk about Antony's role in getting Cicero killed and then talk about Cicero minor getting to announce Antony's death.
* When someone starves you to interdicting shipment, you don't shift your sympathies towards that person: {{!tq|The lack of food in Rome caused the public to blame the Triumvirate and shift its sympathies towards Pompey.}}
* {{strike|This is nonsense and I lack the time to figure it out: 

: {{tq2|To secure the peace, Octavian betrothed his three-year-old nephew and Antony's stepson [[Marcus Claudius Marcellus (Julio-Claudian dynasty)|Marcus Claudius Marcellus]] to Sextus' daughter [[Pompeia (daughter of Sextus Pompeius)|Pompeia]]. (Appian, ''The Civil Wars'', Book 5, 73.) }}
: Obviously two boys cannot both marry the same girl.}} https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Mark_Antony&diff=prev&oldid=1213209226. Fixed. [[User:Ifly6|Ifly6]] ([[User talk:Ifly6|talk]]) 18:02, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
* "Going native" as a casus belli should be cited directly with a quote since it's a rather extraordinary claim. [[WP:EXTRAORDINARY]].
Further work on this article is needed. The sourcing in many portions is just a paraphrase of Plutarch and Appian. It isn't as if there are not good sources on Antony and his times. CAH<sup>2</sup> vols 9–10 might be a good start at least for the events. It's strange also that this article is much more a recounting of the events generally than specifically Antony's part in them. The perspective of the article definitely needs shifting. [[User:Ifly6|Ifly6]] ([[User talk:Ifly6|talk]]) 04:26, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

== Sources ==
There are modern sources:
* {{Cite book |last=Tatum |first=W Jeffrey |title=A noble ruin: Mark Antony, civil war, and the collapse of the Roman republic |date=December 2023 |publisher=Oxford University Press |isbn=978-0-19-769490-9 }}
* {{cite encyclopedia |last=Welch |first=Kathryn |title=Antonius, Marcus (2), Roman consul and triumvir, 83–30 BCE |date=19 Apr 2023 |encyclopedia=Oxford Classical Dictionary online |publisher=Oxford University Press |doi=10.1093/acrefore/9780199381135.013.547 |isbn=978-0-19-938113-5}}

Note also re some of the older sources, in Welch's 2023 OCD Online article—

{{tq2|Modern scholars frequently characterize Antonius as a victim, first of Cicero’s rhetoric and then of young Caesar’s attacks on his character and ability. Even more problematic is the tendency of modern biographers to accept Plutarch’s moral agenda uncritically.}}

The note given at the end of {{tq|uncritically}} is—

{{tq2|E.g. Eleanor Goltz Huzar, Mark Antony: A Biography (London: Croom Helm, 1978); Adrian Goldsworthy, Antony and Cleopatra (New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2010); and Pat Southern, Mark Antony: A Life (Stroud, UK: Amberley Publishing, 2010).}}

If someone is wanting to take a stab on this article, I would definitely get Tatum (2023). Some interpretation and conclusions may differ from the more traditional biographies. [[User:Ifly6|Ifly6]] ([[User talk:Ifly6|talk]]) 08:12, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

:The BMCR review was very positive. https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2024/2024.11.51/. [[User:Ifly6|Ifly6]] ([[User talk:Ifly6|talk]]) 02:25, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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