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'''Reviewer:''' [[User:Muffin Wizard|Muffin Wizard]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muffin Wizard|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Muffin Wizard|contribs]]) 06:39, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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Interesting article, not too long and not too short. I have done some more improvements on it and I think I want to review it as soon as possible (probably at the midnight as I want to give some rest to my computer now). :) <span style="font-size:1.0em; font-family:Cyrillic,serif;">[[User:Muffin Wizard|~ Muffin Wizard]]<sup>&nbsp;[[User talk:Muffin Wizard|;)]]</sup></span> 06:39, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

: Thanks for taking this review :-) [[User:Cerevisae|Cerevisae]] ([[User talk:Cerevisae|talk]]) 07:33, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

::After a thorough check on the article, I suggested:
# Added some more citation on the first paragraph of "recent developments" section.
# Expand the demography lead and languages section. 
:Cheers! :) <span style="font-size:1.0em; font-family:Cyrillic,serif;">[[User:Muffin Wizard|~ Muffin Wizard]]<sup>&nbsp;[[User talk:Muffin Wizard|;)]]</sup></span> 10:39, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
:::Thanks, :-) I will try to find the sources :-) [[User:Cerevisae|Cerevisae]] ([[User talk:Cerevisae|talk]]) 11:58, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

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I am not the designated reviewer here, but while this is a promising article, it needs a good copy edit before it's promoted. Examples from just the etymology section: 
* "The name of "Miri" was originally derived from a group of indigenous people named Mirek, living at the immediate vicinity of the Miri town, consisting of about 2,500 people". This doesn't make much sense and the prose could be tightened.
* You inconsistently refer to "Mirek people" and "''the'' Mirek people". The word "Mirek" doesn't need to be italicised.
* I am not sure why it's relevant to describe the conversion of the Mirek people to Islam in this section - it doesn't appear to have any bearing on the origin of this town's name.
* The following paragraph on the seahorse symbol also has nothing to do with the origin of the town's name. You also don't need quotes around the word "seahorse" and again, this section could do with a re-write. A suggestion might be: "The idea of using "Seahorse" as the symbol of Miri town was conceived by the former Sarawak chief minister Abdul Taib Mahmud. The symbol was introduced by Miri Municipal Council for the first time during "I Love Miri" Campaign in 1994." -> "Miri municipal council has adopted the seahorse as the town's official symbol. It was proposed by the former Sarawak chief minister Abdul Taib Mahmud and introduced as part of the "I love Miri campaign" in 1994".
Anyway, I seriously suggest taking the article to Peer Review and the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors|Guild of Copy Editors]]. I am not sure this is ready for promotion to GA yet and I would politely ask [[User:Muffin Wizard|Muffin Wizard]] to take a closer look at the article's prose and organisation before passing it. Best wishes, —[[User:Noswall59|Noswall59]] ([[User talk:Noswall59|talk]]) 14:57, 17 May 2015 (UTC).
:{{ping|Noswall59}} Thanks for notifying! ugh, I missed to check out on those part. I hope [[User:Cerevisae|Cerevisae]] could address this problem as soon as possible before I need to ask for a second opinion. <span style="font-size:1.0em; font-family:Cyrillic,serif;">[[User:Muffin Wizard|~ Muffin Wizard]]<sup>&nbsp;[[User talk:Muffin Wizard|;)]]</sup></span> 15:32, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
::{{ping|Muffin Wizard}}, thanks for this. Just to clarify, my points above are examples; I do not doubt, there will be many more concerns elsewhere in the article. Hopefully it can make it to GA status after a good copy-edit. Best wishes, —[[User:Noswall59|Noswall59]] ([[User talk:Noswall59|talk]]) 16:02, 17 May 2015 (UTC).
:::Thanks for the comment. I have made the necessary changes. Do let me know if there is any other problems with this article. Thanks! :-) [[User:Cerevisae|Cerevisae]] ([[User talk:Cerevisae|talk]]) 19:18, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
::::You're both welcome, I have requested the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests#Miri.2C Malaysia|Guild of Copy Editors]] to make some copy-edit on it. Let's see if they can spot any more problems in the usage of words. <span style="font-size:1.0em; font-family:Cyrillic,serif;">[[User:Muffin Wizard|~ Muffin Wizard]]<sup>&nbsp;[[User talk:Muffin Wizard|;)]]</sup></span> 22:25, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
::{{ping|Cerevisae}} Is there any map to describe the areas included in the Miri city just like in the [[Kuching#Governance|Kuching]] and [[Kota Kinabalu#Capital city|Kota Kinabalu]] articles. <span style="font-size:1.0em; font-family:Cyrillic,serif;">[[User:Muffin Wizard|~ Muffin Wizard]]<sup>&nbsp;[[User talk:Muffin Wizard|;)]]</sup></span> 03:03, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Muffin Wizard}} This map is quite good. http://www.miricouncil.gov.my/modules/web/components/10_webpages/image_uploader/image_show.php?id=21 [[User:Cerevisae|Cerevisae]] ([[User talk:Cerevisae|talk]]) 20:38, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Cerevisae}} Hmm, we need a free map to put it on the section. Can you draw the areas covered under the Miri administration using the [https://www.openstreetmap.org openstreetmap] (a free map that can be uploaded to Wikipedia) just like how this map shows [[:en:File:KKMap3.png|the Kota Kinabalu areas]]. <span style="font-size:1.0em; font-family:Cyrillic,serif;">[[User:Muffin Wizard|~ Muffin Wizard]]<sup>&nbsp;[[User talk:Muffin Wizard|;)]]</sup></span> 00:56, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Muffin Wizard}} Actually, I don't really know how to draw on openstreetmap. Do send me some guidelines so that I can figure it out slowly :-) [[User:Cerevisae|Cerevisae]] ([[User talk:Cerevisae|talk]]) 01:14, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
::::::{{ping|Cerevisae}} Haha, no I do not mean to tell you to drawing online. I meant you just download the map and re-edit it using [[Paint.NET]]. <span style="font-size:1.0em; font-family:Cyrillic,serif;">[[User:Muffin Wizard|~ Muffin Wizard]]<sup>&nbsp;[[User talk:Muffin Wizard|;)]]</sup></span> 01:19, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, I will try to do it :-) [[User:Cerevisae|Cerevisae]] ([[User talk:Cerevisae|talk]]) 05:22, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
::::::::I will try to do it by this weekend :-) [[User:Cerevisae|Cerevisae]] ([[User talk:Cerevisae|talk]]) 20:22, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
{{od}} Alright, I have made a final check on it. All seems fine including the copy-edit part after an editor has done some copy-edit to it. Thanks for all the time you spend to improve this article. (: <span style="font-size:1.0em; font-family:Cyrillic,serif;">[[User:Muffin Wizard|~ Muffin Wizard]]<sup>&nbsp;[[User talk:Muffin Wizard|;)]]</sup></span> 01:06, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
:Thanks for the promotion :-) [[User:Cerevisae|Cerevisae]] ([[User talk:Cerevisae|talk]]) 08:21, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
::{{ping|Muffin Wizard}} So far, I found no maps that describe the Miri Districts and subdistricts. [[User:Cerevisae|Cerevisae]] ([[User talk:Cerevisae|talk]]) 06:19, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Cerevisae}} Nevermind, I think that is fine for now. You can put once there is an official map released by the Miri local government. <span style="font-size:1.0em; font-family:Cyrillic,serif;">[[User:Muffin Wizard|~ Muffin Wizard]]<sup>&nbsp;[[User talk:Muffin Wizard|;)]]</sup></span> 07:18, 30 May 2015 (UTC)