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==edit war==
Can we please stop the edit war?
[[User:Labor Watch|Labor Watch]] ([[User talk:Labor Watch|talk]]) 04:43, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

:I have semi-protected the page to try and bang this on the head! <span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Brookie|'''<span style="color:#000888;">Brookie :) - he's in the building somewhere! </span>''']] [[User talk:Brookie|<sup>(Whisper...)</sup>]]</span> 12:55, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

== Removing 'unreferenced' information ==

Hey, I removed some information which wasn't sourced. It said it was sourced but there wasn't anything within the sources which said that this gentleman was led out of his office by the FBI. If someone finds a source which ''does'' say that, I've got no objection to it, but at the moment I can't see one. [[User:Panyd|Panyd]]<sup>[[User talk:Panyd|The muffin is not subtle]]</sup> 22:24, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

== Undisclosed paid editing ==

Please see [[User talk:Mohamed Ouda|this discussion]] for details of at least one UPE event in this page. [[User:Justlettersandnumbers|Justlettersandnumbers]] ([[User talk:Justlettersandnumbers|talk]]) 18:22, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

== Some Proposed Changes ==
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I am proposing changes to the last paragraph in the Career section, and, the addition of a brand new paragraph to the end of the Career as outlined below:

Jefferson resigned from his position as Assistant Secretary at the Department of Labor on July 25, 2011, following accusations that he violated federal procurement rules.<ref name="STL">{{cite web |url= http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/political-fix/article_94746384-b932-11e0-b6a3-001a4bcf6878.html |title= McCaskill criticizes Labor Department contracting 'boondoggle' |author=Bill Lambrecht |date=28 July 2011 |work= |publisher= St Louis Today |accessdate=17 October 2011}}</ref><ref name="wapo">{{cite web |url= https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/raymond-jefferson-leaves-labor-department-after-ethics-finding/2011/07/28/gIQA3gdwfIs_story.html |title= Raymond Jefferson leaves Labor Department after ethics finding |author=Steve Vogel |date=28 July 2011 |work= |publisher= Washington Post |accessdate=17 October 2011}}</ref> An Inspector General's report date July 18, 2011, alleged there were complaints by employees and government contractors that Jefferson violated procurement policies associated with [[Stewart Liff]]. According to the Washington Post, Jefferson denied giving any special treatment for Liff, telling investigators that he believed Liff could help transform the culture at VETS.<ref name="wapo2">{{cite web |url= https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/post/obama-appointee-at-labor-resigns-after-ethics-probe/2011/07/28/gIQA8g97eIs_blog.html |title= Obama appointee at Labor resigns after ethics probe |author=Steve Vogel |date=28 July 2011 |work= |publisher= Washington Post |accessdate=17 October 2011}}</ref> In a separate response, Liff asserted he received no special treatment and conformed to all government contracting requirements and work performance.  DOL asked for Mr. Jefferson’s resignation on July 26, 2011.  Mr. Jefferson tendered his resignation, but maintained his innocence regarding any and all wrongdoing, including the four allegations of wrongdoing set forth in the DOL-OIG Report.  Mr. Jefferson then commenced an eight-year battle to clear his name and vindicate his reputation, including filing a federal lawsuit in which he brought four constitutional claims.  Peter Choharis was the lawyer representing Jefferson. 

After eight years and on September 26, 2019, Jefferson was fully exonerated of all allegations of wrongdoing.  As part of the lawsuit, both DOL and DOL-OIG participated in additional investigations and fact-finding.  In September 2019, DOL issued a letter to Mr. Jefferson that stated in part: “At the time when you were asked to resign and when DOL responded to DOL-OIG's Report, DOL did not have DOL-OIG's September 26, 2019 letter, which, after consideration of existing record evidence as well as information that had not previously been considered, has now concluded that none of the allegations against you were substantiated.”<ref>
{{cite web |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inspector-general-takes-back-report/2020/09/23/f9c3397e-f9d1-11ea-a510-f57d8ce76e11_story.html |title=He was forced to resign after a government report criticized him. Eight years later, the government took it back. |publisher=Washington Post |access-date=September 24, 2020}}</ref> The DOL letter went on to say, “DOL agrees that, if it had had DOL-OIG's July 18, 2011 report as now modified by DOL-OIG's September 26, 2019 letter, DOL would not have made its July 26, 2011, request for your resignation and would not have responded with the August 31, 2011 Memorandum as it did.  I further note that DOL never took disciplinary action against you. We therefore consider this matter closed.”[[User:Tsmith47|Tsmith47]] ([[User talk:Tsmith47|talk]]) 17:56, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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*Hi {{u|Tsmith47}}, thank you for proposing edits and declaring your conflict of interest. Unfortunately, I have declined your edit request because the proposed additions would put [[WP:UNDUE]] weight on the IG report and their subsequent findings. I also noticed the banners at the top of the page about the article requiring a cleanup so I went through all the sources and reformatted the article. I removed unreliable sources and claims I could not reliably cite, per [[WP:BLP]], and summarized the available information. If you would like to propose more changes, please follow the instructions at [[Template:Request edit]] and if there are any questions or comments please post below or leave a message on my talk page. [[User:Z1720|Z1720]] ([[User talk:Z1720|talk]]) 02:16, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

== Some Proposed Changes December 2020 ==

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I am proposing the following updates and changes to the article.

Replacement of the existing content under the Post-Government Career section with the following content:

Jefferson is the President of Jefferson Group<ref>{{cite web|title=Leadership on a Global Scale|url=https://www.alumni.hbs.edu/stories/Pages/story-bulletin.aspx?num=6332|publisher=Harvard Business School|accessdate=December 9, 2020}}</ref>, a global leadership consultancy based in [[Singapore]]<ref>{{cite web|first=Joe|last=Davidson|title=He was forced to resign after a government report criticized him. Eight years later, the government took it back.|url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inspector-general-takes-back-report/2020/09/23/f9c3397e-f9d1-11ea-a510-f57d8ce76e11_story.html|publisher=The Washington Post|accessdate=December 9, 2020}}</ref>.
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The creation of a Personal Life section in the article with the following content:

Jefferson is a member of the [[Asia Society]], [[Fulbright Association]], [[NAACP]], and [[Special Forces Association]]<ref>{{cite web|title=Labor Official Resigns Following Corruption Investigation: Who is Raymond Jefferson?|url=http://www.allgov.com/news/appointments-and-resignations/labor-official-resigns-following-corruption-investigation-who-is-raymond-jefferson?news=843043|publisher=AllGov|accessdate=December 9, 2020}}</ref>, and Young Presidents’ Organization (YPO)<ref>{{cite web|title=Raymond Jefferson Featured in Book, Paths to Making a Difference: Leading in Government|url=http://www.bondupdatesdailynews.com/raymond-jefferson-featured-in-book-paths-to-making-a-difference-leading-in-government-11803.html|publisher=Bond Updates|accessdate=December 9, 2020}}</ref>.

Jefferson divides his time between Singapore<ref>{{cite web|first=Preeti|last=Dawra|title=Ray Jefferson-Leading by example|url=https://www.livemint.com/Politics/pV1GBvwmiNnlh0KNbodwMM/Ray-Jefferson--Leading-by-example.html|publisher=Mint|accessdate=December 9, 2020}}</ref> and the US, and considers home to be [[Honolulu, Hawaii]]<ref>{{cite web|title=Labor Official Resigns Following Corruption Investigation: Who is Raymond Jefferson?|url=http://www.allgov.com/news/appointments-and-resignations/labor-official-resigns-following-corruption-investigation-who-is-raymond-jefferson?news=843043|publisher=AllGov|accessdate=December 9, 2020}}</ref>.[[User:Tsmith47|Tsmith47]] ([[User talk:Tsmith47|talk]]) 15:36, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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:Reformatted request. {{done}} for post-gov career section. {{notdone}} for personal life, because half of the sources listed cite allgov.com, which is considered generally unreliable. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 03:13, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

== Some Proposed Changes January 2021==

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I am proposing the following updates and changes to the article:

Update the third sentence in the opening paragraph to the following:

During a training session while serving as an Army officer with Special Forces, he lost all of his fingers on his left hand while attempting to protect his teammates from a defective hand grenade that was detonating prematurely<ref>{{cite web|first=Joe|last=Davidson|title=He was forced to resign after a government report criticized him. Eight years later, the government took it back.|url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inspector-general-takes-back-report/2020/09/23/f9c3397e-f9d1-11ea-a510-f57d8ce76e11_story.html|publisher=The Washington Post|accessdate=January 6, 2021}}</ref>.
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Update the second sentence in the Military career section to the following:

He served as an Army Officer with the infantry and Special Forces, with leadership positions in the U.S. Presidential Honor Guard, 3rd Ranger Battalion and 1st Special Forces Group<ref>{{cite web|title=Governor Lingle Appoints Ray Jefferson as Deputy Director of DBEDT|url=http://archive.vn/2012.07.08-193646/http://archive.lingle.hawaii.gov/gov/news/releases/2003/News_Item.2006-01-19.5739#selection-243.1-243.67|publisher=State of Hawaii|accessdate=January 6, 2021}}</ref>.
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Replace the content in the US Department of Labor section with the following:

In 2009, Jefferson was appointed as US Assistant Secretary for the Veterans' Employment and Training Service (VETS) of the US Department of Labor by President Barack Obama<ref>{{cite web|title=NOMINATION HEARINGS OF THE 111TH CONGRESS: PART 2|url=https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-111shrg51327/html/CHRG-111shrg51327.htm|publisher=U.S. Government Publishing Office|accessdate=January 6, 2021}}</ref>.

The work Jefferson carried out was acknowledged in Fortune & Forbes Magazines, along with Bloomberg Businessweek<ref>{{cite web|title=Sports And Helping Military Veterans Transition To The Private Sector|url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/sportsmoney/2011/05/27/sports-and-helping-military-veterans-transition-to-the-private-sector/?sh=4f24b3582c7d|publisher=Forbes|accessdate=January 6, 2021}}</ref>.   

Jefferson’s work and achievements at the agency were studied by business in government experts Paul R. Lawrence and Mark A. Abramson and published in their book Paths to Making a Difference: Leading in Government<ref name="AbramsonLawrence2012">{{cite book|author1=Mark A. Abramson|author2=Paul R. Lawrence|title=Paths to Making a Difference: Leading In Government|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ToFhGuc87w0C|date=21 December 2012|publisher=Rowman & Littlefield Publishers|isbn=978-1-4422-2388-2}}</ref>.

Jefferson resigned from his position as Assistant Secretary at the Department of Labor on July 25, 2011, following accusations that he violated federal procurement rules.<ref name="stltoday" /><ref name="wapo">{{cite news |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/raymond-jefferson-leaves-labor-department-after-ethics-finding/2011/07/28/gIQA3gdwfI_story.html |title=Raymond Jefferson leaves Labor Department after ethics finding |first=Steve |last=Vogel |date=28 July 2011 |newspaper=[[The Washington Post]] |accessdate=17 October 2011}}</ref> An Inspector General's report alleged that two whistleblowers reported that Jefferson directed VETS employees to award contracts to management consultant [[Stewart Liff]] at a higher cost than what could have been procured in an open selection process.<ref name="stltoday">{{Cite news |last=Lambrecht |first=Bill |date=2011-07-28 |title=McCaskill criticizes Labor Department contracting 'boondoggle' |language=en |work=St. Louis Post-Dispatch |url=https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/mccaskill-criticizes-labor-department-contracting-boondoggle/article_94746384-b932-11e0-b6a3-001a4bcf6878.html |access-date=2020-11-01}}</ref>.  On September 26, 2019 Scott Dahl, the Inspector General for the Department of Labor, reversed a predecessor's previous finding stating in a letter to Jefferson that, “this allegation is not substantiated"<ref>{{cite news|last=Davidson|first=Joe|date=September 24, 2020|title=He was forced to resign after a government report criticized him. Eight years later, the government took it back.|url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inspector-general-takes-back-report/2020/09/23/f9c3397e-f9d1-11ea-a510-f57d8ce76e11_story.html|work=The Washington Post|location=Washington, D.C.|access-date=January 6, 2021}}</ref>.  That same day, a letter from Milton A. Stewart, a Labor deputy assistant secretary for operations, said “if former department officials had the information now available, they would not have pushed Jefferson from office in July 2011.”  The government also agreed to pay some of Jefferson's legal fees which have amounted to nearly his life savings, at least $400,000, to fight in federal court beginning wiha complaint filed in July 2014.[[User:Tsmith47|Tsmith47]] ([[User talk:Tsmith47|talk]]) 19:39, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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:{{done}} edited the intro to match the source as suggested, and added a sentence about the subject's focus while at DOL based on the Forbes cite, which I added. {{notdone}} (1) A Bloomberg source is mentioned in the suggested edit but one not cited and I could not find anything that fit. (2) Did not include the personal cost of legal fees since that is not in any source. (3) Additional description of the exoneration not added because I could find neither the details of the original IG report nor the actual IG letter referenced in the Washington Post article (both links in that Post article go to the brief letter from the assistance secretary). If those two IG resources are available an edit might be justified.
[[User:Mastimido|Mastimido]] ([[User talk:Mastimido|talk]]) 21:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

== Some Proposed Changes ==

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I am proposing the following addition under Post-Government Career heading, or as a new heading of Appointment by President Biden to President’s Commission on White House Fellows.

In 2022, Jefferson was appointed by [[President Joe Biden]]<ref>{{cite web|last1=The White House|title=President Biden Announces Key Appointments to Boards and Commissions|url=https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/08/26/president-biden-announces-key-appointments-to-boards-and-commissions-6/|website=www.whitehouse.gov|publisher=The White House|accessdate=September 18, 2023}}</ref> as a Member of the President’s Commission on [https://www.whitehouse.gov/get-involved/fellows/ White House Fellowships], America’s premier and most prestigious program for leadership and public service, with the duty of recommending candidates to the President for selection as [[White House Fellows]].

[[User:Tsmith47|Tsmith47]] ([[User talk:Tsmith47|talk]]) 19:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
<references /> [[User:Tsmith47|Tsmith47]] ([[User talk:Tsmith47|talk]]) 19:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

===Reply 19-SEP-2023===
{{border |{{emoji|2705|theme=one v1|size=20}}{{nbsp|2}}'''Edit request implemented'''{{nbsp|2}}|display=table |width=1px |style=solid |style2= |color=black |lh=1}} [[User:Spintendo|<span style="font-size:85%;color:#f00;border:3px solid red;border-radius:15px;">&nbsp;<b>Spintendo</b>&nbsp;</span>]] 17:16, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

:Thank you very much.
:[[User:Tsmith47|Tsmith47]] ([[User talk:Tsmith47|talk]]) 12:01, 26 September 2023 (UTC)