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====Men's parking space====
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*... that according to ''[[The Huffington Post]]'', [[Triberg]] "has drawn accusations of sexism after designating two particularly tricky '''[[men's parking space|parking spaces 'men only{{'-}}]]'''"?
: ''Comment'': quirky enough? - first DYK of author, may need care and advice in reviewing
<small>Created by [[User:Serten|Serten]] ([[User talk:Serten|talk]]).&nbsp;Nominated by [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) at 11:05, 25 May 2013 (UTC)</small>.

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I liked the indian perspective here[[User:Serten|Serten]] ([[User talk:Serten|talk]]) 11:21, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
:'''ALT1''' *... that ''[[Times of India]]'' quoted the Mayor ''(pictured)'' of tiny [[Triberg]], Germany, complaining about his secretary's failure to park her car in the "men only", '''[[men's parking space]]s''', but invites women to take the challenge anyway? 
:'''ALT2''' *... that according to ''[[Times of India]]'' reporter Kritika Kapoor Tribergs, '''[[men's parking space]]s''' are not the first example for sexist parking spots?  
:'''ALT3''' *... that two '''[[men's parking space]]s''' were the reason for ''[[Times of India]]'' to report about the Mayor of tiny [[Triberg]], Germany, his secretary, and the challenge to park a car in the local garage?  
:I copyedited the main and alt1 hooks. I like ALT1 the best. [[User:PumpkinSky|<span style="color:darkorange;">Pumpkin</span><span style="color:darkblue;">Sky</span>]] [[User talk:PumpkinSky|<span style="color:darkorange;">talk</span>]] 11:33, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

::*I don't think to link from within a quote is wanted, especially not for the article in question, but would like to learn differently. If we do it we do it as I tweaked further, because the article is not about "men only" ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 11:40, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
::: Lets go for alt1, it has the right grasp[[User:Serten|Serten]] ([[User talk:Serten|talk]]) 11:17, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

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[[File:Strobel IMG 6597.JPG|100x100px|Mayor Strobel shows the spot]]
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::::Restored the original hook (sort of). The picture that was added later needs to be mentioned by ''(pictured)'' if used. The original was intended for quirky, that means without picture. The Black forest hat is very small and a joke only for insiders, my point of view, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:07, 28 May 2013 (UTC) 

:::::Thank you gerda, I got some experience with Schon gewusst, the German sister of DYK, but its quite different here. [[User:Serten|Serten]] ([[User talk:Serten|talk]]) 19:44, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

::::::No problem. Where would you insert ''(pictured)'' in ALT1, 2 or 3? - IF. I think it's almost telling too much, - creating less interest in reading the article, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:03, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

:::::::: Alt 1, probably better with Gallus himself [[User:Serten|Serten]] ([[User talk:Serten|talk]]) 14:25, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

:::::::::Back to the question: where and how mention ''(pictured)'', behind "Mayor"? Would make a complicated structure even more complicated. Perhaps try to say half of what it tries to say now ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:46, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

:::::::::: My canary! OK behind Mayor. Thought it was just behind which alt. Over my head ;) [[User:Serten|Serten]] ([[User talk:Serten|talk]]) 16:35, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

::::::::::* No, we need to know exactly where it should go, example:
:::::::::::'''ALT4''': ... that ''[[Times of India]]'' quoted [[Triberg]]'s mayor ''(pictured)'' about his secretary trying to park her car in the '''[[men's parking space|"men only" parking]]''': "Five times she tried and no success"? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:57, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

:::::::::::: Seems youre the mayor here. I like the ''challenge anyway'' aspect, gerda ;) [[User:Serten|Serten]] ([[User talk:Serten|talk]]) 15:05, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm not the mayor, just giving an example, feel free to play, --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:30, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

*[[File:Symbol redirect vote 4.svg|16px]]  Reviewer needed. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 23:59, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Interesting subject.  However, the "Technical and local background" section is mostly unreferenced and reads like original research.  This will need corrected before we proceed. --[[User:ThaddeusB|ThaddeusB]] ([[User talk:ThaddeusB|talk]]) 19:04, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

:: Technical issues are based on german newspaper articles, i will addd the sources then. OK ? [[User:Serten|Serten]] ([[User talk:Serten|talk]]) 09:35, 17 June 2013 (UTC) 
:::As of today, the background section remains largely unreferenced.  To be clear, sentences such as ''"Triberg was however somewhat in trouble, since most tourists come to the waterfalls on a day tour base and Americans, who had been quite frequent before 9/11, ceased to come and stay. Also the formerly famous local watchmaker industry is nearly completely gone."'' need to be supported. I'm not saying it is false, but without a source it seems like [[WP:OR|original research]]. --[[User:ThaddeusB|ThaddeusB]] ([[User talk:ThaddeusB|talk]]) 19:40, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

:::: Should be better now. [[User:Serten|Serten]] ([[User talk:Serten|talk]]) 09:31, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
*[[File:Symbol redirect vote 4.svg|16px]]   Needs a review.&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 08:25, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
*:A {{cn}} remains.  I might let it go, but it supports about 4 sentences which seem to be pretty important to the article (they describe the purpose of the spaces). --[[User:ThaddeusB|ThaddeusB]] ([[User talk:ThaddeusB|talk]]) 02:19, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I have done some explanation work on the issue, sources are added. Gallus explains it en detail as well in one of the videos. Point is that the German legal enforcement is much weaker than e.g. fire hydrant parking distance in  NYC. However a guy parking on a womens bay might risk scratches on his BMW if no Child safety seats are visible on the back row. OK ? [[User:Serten|Serten]] ([[User talk:Serten|talk]]) 01:27, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
:[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] There are no further issues with the article.  The original hook has been verified by the inline citation.  I personally am not a fan of using a quote for the hook when there is no compelling reason to do so, and so suggest the more direct "that in [[Triberg]], Germany two challenging '''[[men's parking space|parking spaces are designated for 'men only{{'-}}]]'''" under the theory that less is more.  It's a matter of personal preference though, so I'll leave it up to the promoter. --[[User:ThaddeusB|ThaddeusB]] ([[User talk:ThaddeusB|talk]]) 03:05, 10 July 2013 (UTC){{#if:yes|</div></noinclude>|{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Template talk:Did you know/{{SUBPAGENAME}}|[[Category:Pending DYK nominations]][[Category:DYK/Nominations|Pending]]|{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Template:Did you know nominations/{{SUBPAGENAME}}|[[Category:DYK/Nominations|Pending]][[Category:Pending DYK nominations]]}}}}}}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->