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==Palestine==
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Please change [[:Image:Palestinian flag.svg]] to [[:Image:Flag of Palestine.svg]]. Thanks. [[User:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 23:01, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

:The place to make that change is [[Template:Country data Palestine]], which is not protected. [[User:CMummert|CMummert]] · <small>[[User talk:CMummert|talk]]</small> 15:34, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm, I already made that change. I have been mistaken. Thanks for checking here... Cheers! [[User:Siebrand|Siebrand]] 15:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

The United States flag isnt showing, it says the words "flag of United States". Can someone fix that. [[User:BeckyAnne|BeckyAnne]][[User talk:BeckyAnne|(talk)]] 22:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

:This happens from time to time, and is not a problem with this template.  The image cache on Commons needs to be cleared.  [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]] 22:32, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks for the little wiki lesson, I need those from time to time. [[User:BeckyAnne|BeckyAnne]][[User talk:BeckyAnne|(talk)]] 23:12, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

*I really would like an option to disable the display of these silly (IMHO) flag icons. [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] 02:00, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

{{flag|Kosovo}} has default alternative text "Flag of Kosovo". That's not a flag of Kosovo, it's the flag of the United Nations! Can someone fix that? ([[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] 20:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC))
:{{done}} [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]] 20:50, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

== Issues with wikitables ==
Some of the flags screw up the parsing of wikitables. I've noticed this with the Canadian and English flags. But, this only happens when the row definition of the wikitable is in one line as opposed to it being broken up into individual lines per field/cell. Samples:
non-working example:
<nowiki>{|</nowiki> class="wikitable"
!Field1<br />
!Field2<br />
!Field3<br />
|-<br />
|<nowiki>{{flag|USA}}</nowiki>||USA||howdy<br />
|-<br />
|<nowiki>{{flag|Canada}}</nowiki>||Canada||eh?<br />
|-<br />
|<nowiki>{{flag|Spain}}</nowiki>||Spain||hola<br />
|-<br />
|<nowiki>{{flag|England}}</nowiki>||England||cheers<br />
<nowiki>|}</nowiki><br />
results in: 
{| class="wikitable"
!Field1
!Field2
!Field3
|-
|{{flag|USA}}||USA||howdy
|-
|{{flag|Canada}}||Canada||eh?
|-
|{{flag|Spain}}||Spain||hola
|-
|{{flag|England}}||England||cheers
|}

working example:
non-working example:
<nowiki>{|</nowiki> class="wikitable"<br />
!Field1<br />
!Field2<br />
!Field3<br />
|-<br />
|<nowiki>{{flag|USA}}</nowiki>||USA||howdy<br />
|-<br />
|<nowiki>{{flag|Canada}}</nowiki><br />
|Canada<br />
|eh?<br />
|-<br />
|<nowiki>{{flag|Spain}}</nowiki>||Spain||hola<br />
|-<br />
|<nowiki>{{flag|England}}</nowiki><br />
|England<br />
|cheers<br />
<nowiki>|}</nowiki>
results in: 
{| class="wikitable"
!Field1
!Field2
!Field3
|-
|{{flag|USA}}||USA||howdy
|-
|{{flag|Canada}}
|Canada
|eh?
|-
|{{flag|Spain}}||Spain||hola
|-
|{{flag|England}}
|England
|cheers
|}

Any idea why this is happening with only some flags? --'''[[User:Kimon|<span style="color:black;">Kimon</span>]]'''<sup>[[User Talk:Kimon|<span style="color:#008080;">talk</span>]]</sup> 16:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

==Unwanted line break==
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For many countries (such as England) this template is now forcing a line break.  (see [[Open de France]])  It makes many lists very hard to read, can anyone fix this? —[[User:MJBurrage|MJBurrage]] • [[User talk:MJBurrage|<small>TALK</small>]] • 17:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

:[[User:East718]] has added {{tl|pp-template}} to hundreds of country data templates, adding a line break to all of them.  Damn.  I shall try to fix this ASAP.  [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]] ([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]) 18:35, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

::Glad to see someone is already working on this, as I have spent the past hour trying to figure out what was wrong with [[List of islands of the United States by area]].  Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.  --[[User:Kralizec!|Kralizec!]] ([[User talk:Kralizec!|talk]]) 20:27, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

:::That would explain why I'm seeing what I posted in the section above. --'''[[User:Kimon|<span style="color:black;">Kimon</span>]]'''<sup>[[User Talk:Kimon|<span style="color:#008080;">talk</span>]]</sup> 21:45, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

::::{{fixed}}  All 893 country data templates have been repaired, so if you are seeing any more wierdness, try purging the template, clearing your own browser cache, or just wait for the servers to catch up...  [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]] ([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]) 21:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

::::: Removing EPP, this appears to be fixed. [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 16:35, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

== Burma/Myanmar ==
'''Fix please''' For some reason, all of the [[Template:Country_data_Myanmar|country data outputs]] read "Burma" just like the main article, except <nowiki>{{flag|Myanmar}}</nowiki> which still reads "Myanmar." -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 18:34, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

:There is nothing to fix; this is precisely how it is intended.  If you want your wikilink to display as "Burma", use {{tlx|flag|Burma}}.  If you want your wikilink to display as "Myanmar", use {{tlx|flag|Myanmar}}.  There are many contexts in which "Myanmar" is still the most appropriate name (United Nations, Olympics, FIFA, etc.), so that option is available for editors.  In both cases, the flag template links to the Wikipedia target article at [[Burma]], so no redirects are used.  — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 18:44, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

== Nepal's flag broke ==
[[List_of_countries_by_population]], this template is working improperly, showing the full Nepalese flag instead of a shrunk version. -[[Special:Contributions/130.215.112.208|130.215.112.208]] ([[User talk:130.215.112.208|talk]]) 19:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

:{{fixed}}  Sorry!  I was working on a solution to remove the border, as it looks odd with this flag, and I tested my solution.  Interestingly, it worked when {{tlx|flag|Nepal}} is invoked in "normal" wiki text, but ''inside tables'' it broke spectacularly, as you saw.  I shall investigate further. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 20:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

== Interwiki ==
Please add [[da:Skabelon:Flag]] [[User:Nillerdk]] ([[User talk:Nillerdk|talk]]) 20:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

== Croatia ==
Please use [[Image:Civil Ensign of Croatia.svg|30px]] [[:Image:Civil Ensign of Croatia.svg]] as Croatian flag icon. --[[User:Maestral|Maestral]] ([[User talk:Maestral|talk]]) 13:28, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
:Why?  — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 15:25, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

== Question on using this template in lists ==
[[List of Los Angeles Lakers first and second round draft picks]] and other NBA and other similar lists use a nationaly column for the players, so is it possible to display these templates so that the country name isn't wikilinked. because currently it just creates over-wikilinking of the countries. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS">[[User:Gman124|<span style="color:darkgreen">Gman</span><span style="color:orange">124</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Gman124|<span style="color:darkgreen"> talk</span>]]</sup></span> 23:42, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
:Instead of using <code><nowiki>{{flag|USA}}</nowiki></code>, just use <code><nowiki>{{flagicon|USA}} USA</nowiki></code>.  — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 17:51, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

== Switzerland ==
The current <nowiki>{{flag|Switzerland}}</nowiki> template, gives a 20x20px image. While all others are 22x15px. This causes tables to be out of line a bit. Perhaps it can be changed to 15x15 (with style="margin: 0px 3px 0px 2px"), or a 22x15 format - even though the official format is a square. [[User:Species8473|<span style="color:#365a92;">=Species8473=</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Species8473|(talk)]]</sup> 12:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:The current flag template system does not support unique sizing per flag.  The current size of 22x20px was chosen as a "best fit" compromise for 3:2, 5:3, 2:1, and even 1:1 flag aspect ratios, so that's why you see a maximum width of 22 pixels and a maximum height of 20 pixels.  I don't think there is anything we can easily do for this template (i.e. {{tlx|flag|Switzerland}}), but I've changed [[Template:CHE]] (also used through the redirect at {{tlx|SUI}}) so that it bypasses the flag template system and renders the flag directly, thereby allowing the custom size and spacing.  Hopefully this is a useful alternative for you.  — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 18:19, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
::I don't like it. Both "Flag|Switzerland" and "CHE" should render the same size and Just Work™. It should be simple and not confusing in a way that won't be noticeable by the mass that does not care for two different sizes.--[[User:Bxj|Bxj]] ([[User talk:Bxj|talk]])
: please add the arabic interwiki '''ar:قالب:علم''' [[ar:قالب:علم]]--[[User:Heshamdiab116|Heshamdiab116]] ([[User talk:Heshamdiab116|talk]]) 13:14, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

== problems with some proportions ==
Many flags don't show up properly, including those with the proportions 1:2 (Ireland, UK, UAE, Hungary, Nigeria, Malaysia, Kuwait), 1:19 (US), and 3:5 (Bangladesh). Those flags have a "blank" stripe at the top of their symbols. Could you please change that? Thanks, [[User:Ibn Battuta|Ibn Battuta]] ([[User talk:Ibn Battuta|talk]]) 18:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:I think you are referring to the standard border attached to almost all flags.  — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 19:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
== Text Alignment ==
The text doesn't seem to be aligned with the flag properly; it is slightly higher.

{{flag|United Kingdom}}

[[User:Ajmint|ajmint]] <small>([[User talk:Ajmint|talk]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Ajmint|email]]•[[Special:Contributions|contribs]]•[[Special:Prefixindex/User:Ajmint|subpages]])</small> 16:08, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Northern Ireland flag needs removal ==
This needs to be removed there is no active flag for Northern Ireland and it's misleading when you add Northern Ireland to the list of countries in an article (using the flag template since the others all do) it uses the old one that hasn't been used for decades

http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain?action=history for an example of the confusion this can cause

--[[Special:Contributions/87.112.55.149|87.112.55.149]] ([[User talk:87.112.55.149|talk]]) 20:13, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

:Discussed extensively elsewhere.  The solution is to use that template only for appropriate articles, not to delete it so that it can't be used on ''any'' article.  And "hasn't been used for decades" is a POV that is untrue.  See the [http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=nir/index.html FIFA], [http://www.thecgf.com/countries/intro.asp?loc=NIR CGF] and [http://www.pgatour.com/r/players/ PGA TOUR] websites for three high-profile, contemporary, reliable sources that use that flag. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 20:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
::Just because sports websites use it doesn't mean it's currently in use for any country/locality officially - it simply is not, so it shouldn't be on here any more than a flag for London should be... --[[Special:Contributions/87.112.55.149|87.112.55.149]] ([[User talk:87.112.55.149|talk]]) 22:49, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I think you completely miss the point.  Just because a template is inappropriate to use on '''some''' pages doesn't mean we should delete it so that it can't be used on '''any''' page.  Regardless, this talk page is clearly not the best place for this discussion.  If you feel there could be consensus, feel free to nominate [[Template:Country data Northern Ireland]] and [[Template:NIR]] for deletion, and let the discussion take place on the TfD page. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 23:07, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
::::The Ulster Banner is the flag of the [[Irish Football Association|IFA]] and you will find most the the usage on wiki of this flag is for soccer players [[User:Gnevin|Gnevin]] ([[User talk:Gnevin|talk]]) 17:10, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Northern Ireland ==
{{flag|Northern Ireland}}: This flag apparently is wrong. When using it, it is edit-warred out. Even to the point of reverting whole other changes that have nothing to do with this flag. You can not blame me for an error in this template when I use it. If Northern Ireland currently has no flag, it should not be used in this template. If somebody would want to use the 'old' flag (which it apparently is), they should not do it using a template afaik meant for showing current flags. [[User:NftaDaedalus|nftaDaedalus]] ([[User talk:NftaDaedalus|talk]]) 00:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== alt text ==
According to <s>[[WP:MOS]]</s> [[MOS:FLAGS]] flags (all flags) should have text for the visually impaired. To provide alt text, simply add the description to the end of the image markup: <nowiki>[[Image:PictureName.jpg|300px|right|Description of the image]].</nowiki>
The United States flag and all the examples on this template page do not have alt text. [[User:SunCreator|SunCreator]] ([[User talk:SunCreator|talk]]) 04:16, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
:The alt attribute was removed a few weeks ago because of ''negative'' feedback about [[WP:Accessibility]]. This template is used for "inline" icons, not standard images to the left or right of article prose as in your example.  Therefore, screen readers would say "flag of the United States United States" when rendering the output of <code><nowiki>{{flag|United States}}</nowiki></code>, for example.  It was felt that the screen reader output should ''only'' say the country name, which is why the alt attribute was disabled. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 04:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
::I don't understand how you say it would be "flag of United States United States", it currently is blank entirely without an country name. [[User:SunCreator|SunCreator]] ([[User talk:SunCreator|talk]]) 11:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
:::What I mean is that this template always renders both the flag and the country name.  For example, {{tlx|flag|United States}} → {{flag|United States}}.  ''If'' the image had the alt attribute set (as it used to), a screen reader would say "flag of the United States" for the image, followed by "United States" for the wikilink, or a complete result of "flag of the United States Unites States".  It is much better to simply say "United States", which means the alt attribute should be blank for the image and only the wikilink is read. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 16:39, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
:::: I'm afraid this analysis is incorrect. When a typical [[screen reader]] sees an image with a link but no alt text, it reads the title of the image (or even the image URL, if that's all it has), because the image has a function (the link) which the user may need to know about. For example, for "[[Image:Flag of the United States.svg|22x20px]]&nbsp;[[United States]]" a screen reader might say something like "Flag of the United States period ess vee gee United States". To fix the problem, the image should not have a link, as discussed in ''[[WP:ALT #When to specify]]''. For example, for "[[Image:Flag of the United States.svg|22x20px|link=]]&nbsp;[[United States]]" (where the image itself is not linked) a screen reader might say just "United States", which is much better. I have followed up with the obvious fix proposal at ''[[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Flag Template #Fix for accessibility disaster]]''. [[User:Eubulides|Eubulides]] ([[User talk:Eubulides|talk]]) 07:42, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

== African Union ==
Any chance of getting a flag template for the [[African Union]]?  Thanks. - [[User:Jonathon A H|Jonathon A H]] ([[User talk:Jonathon A H|talk]]) 21:37, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:No chance, as [[:File:Flag of the African Union.svg]] is copyrighted, and can only be used on a very limited number of pages (i.e. on [[African Union]] and [[Flag of the African Union]], but that's about it) per [[WP:Non-free content criteria]] policy.  This is the same situation as we have with the NATO flag, for which no flag template exists (or ''can'' exist).  — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 21:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

== Proposal for documentation ==
Please see my [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Centralized_documentation_for_flags|proposal]] to use centralized documentation for all uses of the flag template. —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 12:38, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

== World Bank ==
I've seen that some one has attempted to use this template on the [[Humanitarian response to the 2010 Chile earthquake]] under [[Humanitarian response to the 2010 Chile earthquake#Intergovernmental organizations|Intergovernmental organizations]] in conjunction with the [[World Bank]].

However World Bank has no actual "entry" here as far as I can tell, as this is what appears: <br />
  [[File:|22x20px|border |alt=|link=]] [[World Bank]]

I was going to add it in myself, however I don't believe I can do easily without risking breaking the template, so I'm asking if someone else who knows what they're doing can do it. -- [[User:Droideka75|Droideka75]] ([[User talk:Droideka75|talk]]) 06:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

:There is no flag for the World Bank, so there shouldn't be an attempt to use a flag template in those articles. Also, [[:File:World Bank Logo.svg]] is a non-free image, and therefore cannot be used as a non-flag icon for the World Bank in those articles either. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 17:23, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== Non-breaking space ==
{{tlx|editprotected|Template:Flag}}
I have come across another line break issue. I don't know what was the problem above but could someone add an NBSP between the flag icon and the name string? E.g. if you have a look at {{t|States of Germany}} you'll see some nasty breaks depending on your screen width. [[User:De728631|De728631]] ([[User talk:De728631|talk]]) 22:20, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:This seems to be an issue with [[Template:Country flag2]], which ''does'' actually use a non-breaking space. So I'm not sure what's going wrong. I'll ask {{ul|Andrwsc}} to comment. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 14:56, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, there has always been an &amp;nbsp; used with this template, and you can verify that with the output of [[Special:ExpandTemplates]]. I'm not sure why that non-breaking space is not being respected.  — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 17:20, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I noticed that the &amp;nbsp; is inside the <nowiki><span></nowiki> tags, could that be the reason? Maybe only the icon file itself should be included. [[User:De728631|De728631]] ([[User talk:De728631|talk]]) 19:16, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Nope, I just previewed the output HTML markup for {{tl|States of Germany}} minus those spans and it still renders the same. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 19:28, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Well previewing templates doesn't seem to work anyway, at least not for me. For some reason certain changes always take a while to become visible even when they're fully implemented and saved. [[User:De728631|De728631]] ([[User talk:De728631|talk]]) 19:50, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
== Taiwan ==
Currently <nowiki>{{TWN</nowiki>}} produces "{{flag|Taiwan}}". What can be done to display "{{country data ROC|flagicon/core|variant=|size=}} Taiwan ([[Republic of China]])"? [[Special:Contributions/203.198.25.249|203.198.25.249]] ([[User talk:203.198.25.249|talk]]) 12:40, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think we need to resolve the display to "Republic of China". The default link is already redirected to [[Republic of China]]. [[User:De728631|De728631]] ([[User talk:De728631|talk]]) 16:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
::You can use <code><nowiki>{{flag|ROC|name=Taiwan (Republic of China)}}</nowiki></code> to get {{flag|ROC|name=Taiwan (Republic of China)}}.  If you ''really'' don't want the "Taiwan" text to be part of the wikilink, then you can use <code><nowiki>{{flagdeco|ROC}} Taiwan ([[Republic of China]])</nowiki></code> to get precisely what you've asked for above. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 18:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

== Northern Ireland ==
What flag should be displayed for the province? The flag in FIFA event, or the Union Flag? [[Special:Contributions/203.198.25.249|203.198.25.249]] ([[User talk:203.198.25.249|talk]]) 12:40, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
:What is the context of the flag usage?  In some contexts, no flag is appropriate, in others, the Ulster banner is acceptable. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 18:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

==U.S. flag==
It would be better to use the '''Pantone''' colors like this flag : [[File:Flag of the United States (Pantone).svg|30px]]<!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Mightymights|Mightymights]] ([[User talk:Mightymights#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mightymights|contribs]]) 21:42, July 29, 2011 (UTC)</small>

== Edit request: Flag of western Sahara ==
Hi, <br />
Can you please replace the flag used for Western Sahara by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Western_Sahara_outline.svg this], per [[WP:NPOV]] and [[Wikipedia:Western Sahara Infobox/Vote]]. <br />

The territory is disputed, displaying that flag to refer to the territory is clearly partisan. Consensus already reached, for the change of the flag at the page linked above. The flag that currently appears should only be under <nowiki>{{flag|SADR}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{flag|Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic}}</nowiki> <br />
Regards --[[User:Tachfin|Tachfin]] ([[User talk:Tachfin|talk]]) 08:02, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
:Also, take [[Flag of Western Sahara|this]] consensus into account --[[User:Tachfin|Tachfin]] ([[User talk:Tachfin|talk]]) 08:29, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
::That's not a flag, so shouldn't be used for a flag icon per [[WP:MOSICON]].  The better solution would be to update transclusions of [[Template:Country data Western Sahara]] and [[Template:Country data ESH]], but in any case, there is nothing whatsoever that needs to be done to '''this''' template.  — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 19:06, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

== [[Libya]] ==
I think that Libya deserves a flag makeover. Who is in favor of recognizing the NTC? '''[[User:Rainbow Dash|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Rainbow</span>]] [[User talk:Rainbow Dash|<span style="color:#009900;">Dash</span>]]''' ''[[Tripcode|!xmcuvg2MH]]'' 01:29, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

:Wikipedia is not a soapbox. I would wait until there's official recognition by the UN of the transition of power. Wikipedia can wait a month  or so for this. --[[User:Bxj|Bxj]] ([[User talk:Bxj|talk]]) 03:12, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

::It seems that it has already been done. Considering that many countries already recognise the NTC, I don't think it's much of an issue. '''<sub><span style="color:#4B0000;">Eric</span></sub><small><span style="color:#550000;">Leb</span></small><sup><span style="color:#660000;">01</span></sup> <small>([[User:Ericleb01|Page]] &#124; [[User talk:Ericleb01|Talk]])</small>''' 00:52, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

== Linking to articles other than the main country article ==
The page [[List of countries with floating currencies]] uses this template for every country on the list, but for that page, it makes more sense to link to the article on the country's currency. Is this possible with this template? [[User:Dondegroovily|<span style="color:red">'''D&nbsp;O&nbsp;N&nbsp;D&nbsp;E'''</span>&nbsp;<small>groovily</small>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Dondegroovily|<span style="color:green">Talk&nbsp;to&nbsp;me</span>]] 23:41, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
: Similarly, on historical articles it is sometimes more appropriate to link to a historical country's article. E.g. <code><nowiki>{{flag|SVK|1938|name=Slovak Republic}}</nowiki></code> &rarr; {{flag|SVK|1938|name=Slovak Republic}} where the link is to [[Slovakia]], but should be to [[Slovak Republic (1939-1945)]]. In this particular case the choice of link target could probably be resolved via the country data templates. [[User:Hairy Dude|Hairy Dude]] ([[User talk:Hairy Dude|talk]]) 00:51, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
:: There is [[Template:Country data Slovak Republic (1939–1945)|a separate data template]] for the WWII Slovak Republic: {{#invoke:DemoTemplate|flag|Slovak Republic (1939–1945)|name=Slovak Republic}}. You can set the article to link to using the {{tl|flagg}} template, though creating a new data template is the better solution for linking to a historical country with its own article. [[User:SiBr4|<span title="User:SiBr₄">SiBr<sub>4</sub></span>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|<span title="User talk:SiBr₄">talk</span>]]) 20:36, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
:::The {{tl|flagcountry}} template is most commonly used for these situations.  {{tlx|flagcountry|Slovak Republic (1939–1945)}} produces {{flagcountry|Slovak Republic (1939–1945)}}. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 00:25, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

== Non-breaking space ==
Would it be possible for the space between the flag and the label to be a non-breaking space? There are sometimes situations where the flag appears at the end of a line and the corresponding text is at the start of the next one. (See [[Indian Ocean#Bordering countries and territories]] for example, although I suppose it depends on your screen size.) I think it would be better if the flag and text were always adjacent. [[User:Bazonka|Bazonka]] ([[User talk:Bazonka|talk]]) 06:39, 23 July 2012 (UTC)<br />
I've just noticed that this has already been discussed earlier on this talk page. In any case, it's still not fixed, so worth revisiting. [[User:Bazonka|Bazonka]] ([[User talk:Bazonka|talk]]) 06:41, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
:Seems unlikely an IP editor will get a reply if you didn't, but the problem you describe still remains, two months later.  [[Special:Contributions/67.101.5.42|67.101.5.42]] ([[User talk:67.101.5.42|talk]]) 05:53, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
::I've had another look at it and have now checked the documentation at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Flag Template]]. It says that the template invokes the following line of code ({{tl|Flag/core}}):

::<code><nowiki><span class="flagicon">[[File:Flag of Spain.svg|22x20px|border |alt=|link=]]&amp;nbsp;</span>[[Spain]]</nowiki></code>
::Example with unwanted line break:
{{infobox island
|name=Foo
|country=xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<span class="flagicon">[[File:Flag of Spain.svg|22x20px|border |alt=|link=]]&nbsp;</span>[[Spain]]
}}{{clear}}
::<s>A quick workaround might be wrapping a <code><nowiki><div></nowiki></code> around the existing code in {{tl|Flag/core}}, like </s>
::<s><code><nowiki><div><span class="flagicon">[[File:Flag of Spain.svg|22x20px|border |alt=|link=]]&amp;nbsp;</span>[[Spain]]</div></nowiki></code></s>
::<s>which produces</s>
{{infobox island
|name=Foo
|country=xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<div><span class="flagicon">[[File:Flag of Spain.svg|22x20px|border |alt=|link=]]&nbsp;</span>[[Spain]]</div>
}}{{clear}}
::<s>I'm not much of a template coder but I can't see how this change would cause any bugs. So I suggest we implement that.</s> [[User:De728631|De728631]] ([[User talk:De728631|talk]]) 13:40, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
::P.S. on a second look, a simple <code><nowiki><div></div></nowiki></code> won't work because it creates columns. Nowrap should do it though, and there is a huge unanswered list of proposals at [[Template talk:Flag/core#Proposals: Specify “link=” value and nowrap flag image with text]]. [[User:De728631|De728631]] ([[User talk:De728631|talk]]) 13:54, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

== Comment ==
Just to say that my instinct is that <nowiki>{{flag|X}}</nowiki> would deliver the flag of X, not the flag of X followed by X's name. In other words, it seems to me that <nowiki>{{flag|X}}</nowiki> should behave along the lines of <nowiki>{{flagicon|X}}</nowiki> rather than <nowiki>{{flagcountry|X}}</nowiki>. Hope that doesn't sound ungrateful, though. [[Special:Contributions/213.246.91.158|213.246.91.158]] ([[User talk:213.246.91.158|talk]]) 21:56, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
:When these templates were developed 7 or 8 years ago, that would have been more logical. But now with hundreds of thousands of transclusions, it's too late to swap them, I think. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 00:01, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

== Optionally not linking countries ==
Could we have an additional parameter, similar to '<nowiki>links=no</nowiki>' on the <nowiki>{{lang-xx}}</nowiki> templates, to bypass linking of the country? The MOS recommends not linking well-known locations such as United States, for example, so this would provide that facility for flags too. [[User:Colonies Chris|Colonies Chris]] ([[User talk:Colonies Chris|talk]]) 15:16, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
:Use {{tl|flagu}}. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 23:59, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks. This template will be very useful for reducing overlinking. It would be helpful if it were documented at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Flag Template]]. [[User:Colonies Chris|Colonies Chris]] ([[User talk:Colonies Chris|talk]]) 11:42, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

== Fix Swiss/Nepal/Vatican flag height ==
The tall flags should be fixed to use height x17px (rather than default: 22x20px) so that they would fit typical line-height of text, but that involves padding their width by "&amp;nbsp;" prepended before the country name=xxx. So, 5 templates would be affected to make the fix, using 20x17px as the size:
:* In [[Template:Country_data_Switzerland]], set <nowiki>size={{{size|20x17px}}}</nowiki>
:* In [[Template:Country_data_Nepal]], set <nowiki>size={{{size|20x17px}}}</nowiki>
:* In [[Template:Country_data_Vatican_City]], set <nowiki>size={{{size|20x17px}}}</nowiki>
:* In [[Template:Flag/core]], add&nbsp; <nowiki>{{#ifeq:{{{size}}}|20x17px|&amp;nbsp;}}{{#ifeq:{{{alias}}}|Nepal|&amp;nbsp;}}</nowiki>
:* In [[Template:Flagu/core]], add <nowiki>{{#ifeq:{{{size}}}|20x17px|&amp;nbsp;}}{{#ifeq:{{{alias}}}|Nepal|&amp;nbsp;}}</nowiki>
:::{| class=wikitable border=1
| valign=top |
:{{ns|10}} '''Size 22x20px'''
:text {{flag|France}}
:text {{flag|Switzerland}}  (as 22x20px) 
:text {{flag|Italy}}
:text {{flag|Vatican City}}  (as 22x20px)
:text {{flag|India}}
:text {{flag|Nepal}} &nbsp; (as 22x20px)
:text {{flag|Pakistan}}
| valign=top |
:{{ns|10}} '''Size 20x17px'''
:text {{flag|France}}
:text {{flag|&nbsp;Switzerland|size=20x17px}}  (as 20x17px)
:text {{flag|Italy}}
:text {{flag|&nbsp;Vatican City|size=20x17px}}  (as 20x17px)
:text {{flag|India}}
:text {{flag|&nbsp;Nepal|size=20x17px}} &nbsp; (as 20x17px)
:text {{flag|Pakistan}}
|}
As shown in the table above, the "text" lines are evenly spaced when size of those 3 flags is reduced to 20x17px. Because the prior width of the Swiss/Nepal/Vatican flags was 20px, rather than 22px, then the added name-padding by &nbsp will also better align those flag names in current lists where they are being displayed. Only the Swiss/Nepal/Vatican flags would be affected by this change, and [[Template:Flagicon]] will never put &nbsp.  Because the size code "20x17px" is so unusual, then it would be unlikely to be used as a custom size by editors showing flags, and the extra space would only be triggered when showing the name with the Swiss/Nepal/Vatican flags. As for performance considerations, a <code>[[Help:Ifeq|#ifeq]]</code> function can run with 1/800 second, and so the formatting of flags by templates {flag} or {flagu} would increase by only 2/800 second for each flag shown in a page. Hence, showing 100 flags in a page would increase formatting by only 1/4 (2/8) second (0.250s) longer. Any questions? -[[User:Wikid77|Wikid77]] ([[User talk:Wikid77|talk]]) 11:33, 3 June, revised 13:22, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

=== Reduce Swiss/Nepal/Vatican flags ===
{{editprotected|Template:Flag/core|answered=yes}}
As requested for over 2 years, the Swiss/Nepal/Vatican flag icons should be 20x17px. See related discussions:
::* "[[#Fix Swiss/Nepal/Vatican flag height]]" (above), "[[#Alignment in table]]" (below)
To reduce the flag height, but still align country names, then 5 templates must be changed, as follows:
:* In [[Template:Flag/core]], add&nbsp; <nowiki>{{#ifeq:{{{size}}}|20x17px|&amp;nbsp;}}{{#ifeq:{{{alias}}}|Nepal|&amp;nbsp;}}</nowiki><br />(see: [[Template:Flag/core/sandbox]])
:* In [[Template:Flagu/core]], similar changes were already made.
:* In [[Template:Country_data_Switzerland]], set <nowiki>"| size = {{{size|20x17px}}}"</nowiki>
:* In [[Template:Country_data_Nepal]], set <nowiki>"| size = {{{size|20x17px}}}"</nowiki>
:* In [[Template:Country_data_Vatican_City]], set <nowiki>"| size = {{{size|20x17px}}}"</nowiki>
The sandbox version, [[Template:Flag/core/sandbox]], contains the updated logic to align the smaller flag icons. After the templates have been updated, the following testcases should match:
::::{| class=wikitable
! colspan=4 style="background:#ddd" | ''Testing of results''
|-
! <nowiki>{{flag|...}}</nowiki> || Currently || Expected || comments
|-
| <nowiki>{{flag|Nepal}}</nowiki> || {{flag|Nepal}}
|  {{flag/sandbox2|Nepal|size=20x17px}} || (shift name +2 spaces)
|-
| <nowiki>{{flag|Germany}}</nowiki> || {{flag|Germany}}
|  {{flag/sandbox2|Germany}} || (unchanged)
|-
| <nowiki>{{flag|Switzerland}}</nowiki> || {{flag|Switzerland}}&nbsp;&nbsp;
|  {{flag/sandbox2|Switzerland|size=20x16px}}&nbsp; || (shift name +1 space)
|-
| <nowiki>{{flag|Vatican City}}</nowiki> || {{flag|Vatican City}}
|  {{flag/sandbox2|Vatican City|size=20x16px}} || (shift name +1 space)
|-
| <nowiki>{{flag|Italy}}</nowiki> || {{flag|Italy}}
|  {{flag/sandbox2|Italy}} || (unchanged)
|-
! colspan=4 style="background:#ddd" | &nbsp;
|-
! <nowiki>{{flagu|...}}</nowiki> || Currently || Expected || comments
|-
| <nowiki>{{flagu|Nepal}}</nowiki> || {{flagu|Nepal}}
|  {{flagu|Nepal|size=20x17px}} || (shift name +2 spaces)
|-
| <nowiki>{{flagu|Germany}}</nowiki> || {{flagu|Germany}}
|  {{flagu|Germany}} || (unchanged)
|-
| <nowiki>{{flagu|Switzerland}}</nowiki> || {{flagu|Switzerland}}&nbsp;&nbsp;
|  {{flagu|Switzerland|size=20x16px}}&nbsp; || (shift name +1 space)
|-
| <nowiki>{{flagu|Vatican City}}</nowiki> || {{flagu|Vatican City}}
|  {{flagu|Vatican City|size=20x16px}} || (shift name +1 space)
|-
| <nowiki>{{flagu|Italy}}</nowiki> || {{flagu|Italy}}
|  {{flagu|Italy}} || (unchanged)
|}
Because the fixes, for flag height+alignment, have involved changing 5 related templates, for alignment within a wikitable, then it had remained uncorrected for over 4 years. Few people understood the interactions between {Country_data_Switzerland} and {Flag} with {Flag/core}, etc. Plus changing the sandbox versions, and showing the test results inside wikitables, can be very tedious to demonstrate the precise typesetting of 3 flag icons, among over 350 similar flags.<br />'''''Impact:''''' {flag/core} has "334,868 transclusions" and {country_data_Switzerland} has 27,409, etc. -[[User:Wikid77|Wikid77]] ([[User talk:Wikid77|talk]]) 13:22, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

:Thank you for the detailed ''release notes''. These exceptions are now added as well to the experimental (and incomplete) [[Template:FlagiconLua]] - see [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Module%3ASandbox%2FQuimGil%2FFlagicon&diff=559011058&oldid=559004657 diff].--[[User:QuimGil|QuimGil]] ([[User talk:QuimGil|talk]]) 05:20, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

::[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:EP -->. Thanks for your work, and for the detailed description of the changes. It made implementing this request pretty easy. Also, sorry about the long wait. Best — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span>]]''''' <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪ talk ♪]]</sup> 10:37, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

==== Default sizes must use #if to work ====
{{editprotected|Template:Country_data_Nepal|answered=yes}}
''19 June 2013:'' Unfortunately, because of empty parameter "size=" then using <nowiki>"{{{size|20x17px}}}"</nowiki> has failed to set the default size, which is replaced with the empty value as passed. Instead, the 3 {country_data...} templates must check "<code>#</code>if:<nowiki>{{{size|}}}</nowiki>" to set the default size. Also, some users think x17px is too high for their browsers, so 20x16px is being used for the Swiss and Vatican flags, but x17px for Nepal:
:* In [[Template:Country_data_Nepal]], set <nowiki>"| size = {{#if:{{{size|}}}|{{{size}}}|20x17px}}"</nowiki>
:* In [[Template:Country_data_Switzerland]], set <nowiki>"| size = {{#if:{{{size|}}}|{{{size}}}|20x16px}}"</nowiki>
:* In [[Template:Country_data_Vatican_City]], set <nowiki>"| size = {{#if:{{{size|}}}|{{{size}}}|20x16px}}"</nowiki>
I have modified the table of flags, above, to show the x17px and x16px results in the "'''Expected'''" column, to compare results after updating those 3 templates. -[[User:Wikid77b|Wikid77b]] ([[User talk:Wikid77b|talk]]) 06:12, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

:{{done}} [[User:De728631|De728631]] ([[User talk:De728631|talk]]) 15:12, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
::Is the done relative to the default size only or are the 3 flag sizes above also part of the decision? Sorry, I'm just trying to match the current implementation for [[Template:FlagiconLua]].--[[User:QuimGil|QuimGil]] ([[User talk:QuimGil|talk]]) 15:21, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

====Other flags====
Have the other flag icons somehow been affected by this change? Only these three flags were supposed to change, but a lot of other icons now look very weird (Monaco, Niger, DR Congo, Norway, Denmark etc.). [[Special:Contributions/92.81.68.23|92.81.68.23]] ([[User talk:92.81.68.23|talk]]) 15:53, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

== Alignment in table ==
''Thread moved from [[Template_talk:flagicon]]:''
:{| class="wikitable infobox"
!Country!!Code
|-
|{{flag|USA}}||1
|-
|{{flag|CHE}}||2
|-
|{{flag|NPL}}||3
|-
|{{flag|GBR}}||4
|}
:When the flag or flagicon template is used in a table as in the example on the right, the country names are not aligned. Is there an option to make them aligned, for example, by putting appropriate margins on the icons so that they are all the same widths? Thanks! '''[[User:cmglee|cm&#610;&#671;ee]]'''[[User_Talk:cmglee|&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669;]] 13:06, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
::This question is about [[Template:Flag]] and therefore could be better placed at [[Template_talk:Flag]]. Flagicon doesn't have label. (Your suggestion is good, but it would require a calculation of the right margin based on the size of the image. Technically doable, but requires improving the template.)--[[User:QuimGil|QuimGil]] ([[User talk:QuimGil|talk]]) 16:13, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
* '''Similar to Swiss/Nepal/Vatican problem:''' Above, "[[#Fix Swiss/Nepal/Vatican flag height]]" describes a permanent fix, but for now, set the size as "x17px" with &nbsp spacing in each flag:
:::{| class=wikitable
|<nowiki>{{flag|&amp;nbsp;Switzerland|size=x17px}}</nowiki> || {{flag|&nbsp;Switzerland|size=x17px}} || A
|-
|<nowiki>{{flag|GBR}}</nowiki> || {{flag|GBR}} || B
|-
|<nowiki>{{flag|&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;NPL|size=x17px}}</nowiki> || {{flag|&nbsp;&nbsp;NPL|size=x17px}} || C
|-
|<nowiki>{{flag|&amp;nbsp;Vatican City|size=x17px}}</nowiki> || {{flag|&nbsp;Vatican City|size=x17px}} || D
|-
|<nowiki>{{flag|USA}}</nowiki> || {{flag|USA}} || E
|}
: Even with the lead spaces "&amp;nbsp;" each nation name is linked properly. -[[User:Wikid77|Wikid77]] ([[User talk:Wikid77|talk]]) 11:03, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
* Other option for [[User:cmglee]]'s request: use {{tl|pxsp}}<br />examples:<br />
:::{| class=wikitable
|-
! code !! gives !! note
|-
|<nowiki>{{flagicon|ITA}} ABCDE</nowiki>||{{flagicon|ITA}} ABCDE
|-
|<nowiki>{{pxsp|3}}{{flagicon|SUI}}{{pxsp|4}} ABCDE</nowiki>||<span style="padding-left:3px;">&#8205;</span>{{flagicon|SUI}}<span style="padding-left:4px;">&#8205;</span> ABCDE||3px space on the left & 4px space on the right
|-
|<nowiki>{{flagicon|RUS}} ABCDE</nowiki>||{{flagicon|RUS}} ABCDE
|-
|<nowiki>{{pxsp}}{{flagicon|VAT}}{{pxsp|6}} ABCDE</nowiki>||<span style="padding-left:1px;">&#8205;</span>{{flagicon|VAT}}<span style="padding-left:6px;">&#8205;</span> ABCDE||1px space on the left & 6px space on the right
|-
|<nowiki>{{flagicon|USA}} ABCDE</nowiki>||{{flagicon|USA}} ABCDE
|-
|<nowiki>{{pxsp|6}}{{flagicon|NPL}}{{pxsp|5}} ABCDE</nowiki>||<span style="padding-left:6px;">&#8205;</span>{{flagicon|NPL}}<span style="padding-left:5px;">&#8205;</span> ABCDE||6px space on the left & 5px space on the right
|}
:[[User:Maiō T.|Maiō T.]] ([[User talk:Maiō T.|talk]]) 23:54, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Update: There is now {{tl|flaglist}} which automatically aligns country names without having to manually add spaces. <span style="font-family:serif;">[[User:SiBr4|SiBr<sub>4</sub>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|talk]])</span> 21:50, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

== Attn Sysops: Ascension Island new flag ==
Please replace the Union flag by the new Ascension Island Flag: Flag_of_Ascension_Island.png
Thanks in advance,
--— [[User:Jfblanc|J. F. B.]] <sup>([[User talk:Jfblanc|me´n parlar]])</sup> 18:14, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
:I'm sorry but we can't use the new flag in a template because the design of the shield is copyrighted and unfree. The images of the flags of Ascension island are being used under a fair-use rationale for specific articles only, and the use in illustrative templates is not covered by our [[WP:NFC|non-free content criteria]]. [[User:De728631|De728631]] ([[User talk:De728631|talk]]) 18:29, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
::I have made a request at [[Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop#Flag and coat of arms of Ascension Island]] for an artist's help in generating a new image, but so far that request has been ignored. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 05:52, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

==Korean Flag==
The template {{[[Template:Flag|Flag]]|Korea}}: {{flag|Korea}} links to a historical [[flag of Korea]]. The template {{[[Template:Flag|Flag]]|KOR}}: {{flag|KOR}} has the correct one. [[User:Sander.v.Ginkel|Sander.v.Ginkel]] ([[User talk:Sander.v.Ginkel|talk]]) 09:59, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
:You need to use {{tlx|flag|South Korea}} (or {{tlx|KOR}}).  "KOR" is the country code for [[South Korea]].  [[Template:Country data Korea]] links to the article at [[Korea]], which describes the historical state prior to the 1945 division. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 18:29, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

== Coat of arms Priboj - new ==
{{edit protected|<!-- Page to be edited -->|answered=yes}}
<!-- Begin request -->
http://priboj.rs/o-priboju/znamenja-opstine
<!-- End request -->
[[User:Markojanjusevic|Markojanjusevic]] ([[User talk:Markojanjusevic|talk]]) 02:46, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

:{{not done}}. First of all, this template is for widely used flags like those of countries and provinces, but it's not meant for flags of individual towns that are unlikely to be used across Wikipedia. Apart from that there is currently no free image of particular this flag avalaible at [[:Commons:Category:Priboj]]. [[User:De728631|De728631]] ([[User talk:De728631|talk]]) 15:11, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

==Kingdom of Yugoslavia==
I edit articles about ships lost in the Second World War, in which templates to display historic flags are often useful. I have found how to do this for countries including Canada, Egypt, Greece, Palestine and Syria but not Yugoslavia. I assumed that the syntax for the Kingdom of Yugoslavia's flag would be <nowiki>{{flag|Yugoslavia|1918}}</nowiki> for the civilian flag. I have no idea what the syntax for the naval ensign (adopted in 1922) would be. Anyone please help?
Thankyou, [[User:Motacilla|Motacilla]] ([[User talk:Motacilla|talk]]) 20:56, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
:<code><nowiki>{{flag|Kingdom of Yugoslavia|naval}}</nowiki></code> → {{flag|Kingdom of Yugoslavia|naval}}. Or use {{tlx|flagcountry}} for {{flagcountry|Kingdom of Yugoslavia|naval}}, where the link target is still [[Kingdom of Yugoslavia]] but the display text is simply "Yugoslavia". — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 17:16, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

==Edit request==
{{Resolved|Fixed}}
{{Editprotected|answered=yes}}
Replace [[:File:Flag of the Commonwealth of Nations.svg]], which is pending deletion at Commons with [[:File:Flag of the Commonwealth of Nations.jpg]], which is a file I uploaded locally and tagged as "Do not move to commons". [[User:CourtlyHades296|CourtlyHades296]] ([[User talk:CourtlyHades296|talk]]) 00:11, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
:You already did that yourself by changing {{tl|Country data Commonwealth of Nations}}. Just let the system get rid of the svg icons in the cache. If you look at [[User:De728631/sandbox|my user sandbox]] you'll see that all these related templates now display icons based on the local jpg file. [[User:De728631|De728631]] ([[User talk:De728631|talk]]) 01:58, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

== Default sort ==
There are countries that have to be sorted in tables according to the main part of their names, instead of the first words of their names, e.g., the Federated States of Micronesia and the FYRO Macedonia have to be placed under #M, and the Republic of the Congo under #C. Is there any built-in default sort template within the {{tl|flag}} template? [[Special:Contributions/116.48.155.127|116.48.155.127]] ([[User talk:116.48.155.127|talk]]) 21:06, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
:Not built in.  You have to use {{tl|sort}}. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 00:48, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

:: Would it be better to have it built-in, or to add such an option? [[Special:Contributions/116.48.155.127|116.48.155.127]] ([[User talk:116.48.155.127|talk]]) 18:07, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
:::It would add a non-trivial amount of complexity to what needs to be a streamlined template.  — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 18:42, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

:::: So would the solution be like {&#123;sort | Congo, Republic of the | {&#123;flag|Republic of the Congo}} }}, for example? [[Special:Contributions/116.48.155.127|116.48.155.127]] ([[User talk:116.48.155.127|talk]]) 16:09, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
::::: Yes, precisely. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 16:24, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

:::::: Any chance adding it to the flag template? [[Special:Contributions/116.48.155.127|116.48.155.127]] ([[User talk:116.48.155.127|talk]]) 17:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::: Say, adding a parameter like "|sort=Congo, Republic of the" [[Special:Contributions/116.48.155.127|116.48.155.127]] ([[User talk:116.48.155.127|talk]]) 17:23, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::::: Hello? [[Special:Contributions/116.48.155.127|116.48.155.127]] ([[User talk:116.48.155.127|talk]]) 18:03, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::::: That was already answered with "It would add a non-trivial amount of complexity to what needs to be a streamlined template." <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 00:52, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

== kyrgyzstan ==
{{Resbox|Invalid}}
Unless I missed it, there doesn't appear to be a [[kyrgyzstan]] flag. Can we get it added? --[[User:CyberXRef|<span style="color:#930014;">Cy</span><span style="color:#4a3f3f;">be</span><span style="color:#007d69;">r</span><span style="color:#05716e;">XR</span><span style="color:#0f5877;">ef</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:CyberXRef|☎]]</sup> 23:24, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

:Scratch that, it's there, no action necessary. My bad! --[[User:CyberXRef|<span style="color:#930014;">Cy</span><span style="color:#4a3f3f;">be</span><span style="color:#007d69;">r</span><span style="color:#05716e;">XR</span><span style="color:#0f5877;">ef</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:CyberXRef|☎]]</sup> 23:38, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

== United States flag as used in flagicon ==
Cross-posted from [[Template_talk:Flagicon#United_States_flag]] (I don't know what the right place is for this.)

May I make a suggestion for the display of the [[Flag of the United States|US flag]] as an icon? The current default results in a icon of 23x12px. However the US flag has 13 stripes. The mapping of 13 stripes to 12 lines results in blurry stripes:
 {{flagicon|United States|size=23px}} 23x12px: Icon width of 23px (currently the default)
 {{flagicon|United States|size=24px}} 24x13px: Width of 24px
I don't know what the best answer to this is, but I would suggest either changing the default (for all) to 24px, or having an icon for the US flag with 23x13px (accepting that the proportions are then slightly off from the nominal 10:19). [[User:Tony Mach|Tony Mach]] ([[User talk:Tony Mach|talk]]) 18:24, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
:Agree it looks better. Would there be any technical problem making all the flag icons a hair larger?  It would be a boon to those of us with crappy eyesight, and have negligible other effect I can think of (even if some tables have been unwisely coded to use specific column widths, I believe they'd expand to encompass the content anyway, wouldn't they?  If not, it's a good excuse to fix tables to stop using specific pixel-width columns. It would be a poor idea to make only this one flagicon display larger, as that would have a negative effect on display with other flags. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 00:36, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

== Correct Swiss Flag ==
Request moved to the probably correct(?)/better place to be discussed: [[Template_talk:Country data Switzerland#Correct Swiss Flag]]

-- [[User:ZH8000|ZH8000]] ([[User talk:ZH8000|talk]]) 03:41, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


==Free France==
This article was recently moved, and I'm not sure of where in [[:Template:Country data France]] or [[:Template:Country data Free French Forces]] changes have to be made (or moved to [[:Template:Country data Free France]]), so that {{xt|<nowiki>{{Flag|Free France}}</nowiki>}} creates a link to [[Free France]], and not to [[Free French Forces]] as now. Thanks for any help. <small>[[Special:Contributions/Victor_falk|<sup style="color:green;">''walk''</sup>]]</small> [[user:victor falk|<i style="color:green;">victor falk</i>]]<sup><small> [[user_talk:victor falk|<i style="color:green;">talk</i>]]</small></sup> 09:40, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
:The article linked to is specified by the {{para|alias}} parameter in a country data template ([[Template:Country data Free French Forces|Country data Free French Forces]] in this case; [[Template:Country data France|Country data France]] always links to [[France]]). Whether the template is titled "Country data Free French Forces" or "Free France" does not matter for its output or usage as long as the other title is a redirect.
: While it is usual for flag templates to directly link to the right article, the guideline [[WP:NOTBROKEN]] also applies. <span style="font-family:serif;">[[User:SiBr4|SiBr<sub>4</sub>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|talk]])</span> 10:13, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
:: Thank you for your help. FF and FFF are not synonyms, but two distinct but overlapping topics with one with a wider scope than the other that are treated within a single article, which introduces an issue of [[WP:EGG]]. <small>[[Special:Contributions/Victor_falk|<sup style="color:green;">''walk''</sup>]]</small> [[user:victor falk|<i style="color:green;">victor falk</i>]]<sup><small> [[user_talk:victor falk|<i style="color:green;">talk</i>]]</small></sup> 15:19, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
:::I'm with victor falk on this one; [[WP:NOTBROKEN]] doesn't apply in this case.  A subtopic and the topic of which it is a subtopic are not the same thing. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 00:48, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

== Swedish double-tailed flag==
{{Moved to|Template talk:Country data Sweden}}

== Missing British codes ==
The FIFA and [[ISO 3166-2:GB]] codes for Scotland and Wales differ.  We already support FIFA's <code>WAL</code> and <code>SCO</code> but should also permit <code>WLS</code> and <code>SCT</code>, as we really can't expect anyone but experts in language code differences to distinguish between them.  Some sports ([[snooker]] being one, if I recall correctly) use the ISO codes, since they're not football. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 23:20, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Also, there are three [[ISO 3166-2:GB]] national codes we're not supporting yet: <code>EAW</code> (England and Wales = Union Jack minus the Scottish component); <code>GBN</code> (Great Britain = UK); <code>UKM</code> (United Kingdom = UK). The first of these has historic significance and has been a real flag, before union with Scotland.  The other two are just the Union Jack again, and should be supported for completeness. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 23:33, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

And more.  Between [[ISO 3166-1 alpha-2]], [[ISO 3166-1 alpha-3]], and [[ISO 3166-2:GB]] I've found several more we're not supporting yet: <code>IM</code> (Isle of Man), <code>GBM</code> (Isle of Man), <code>JE</code> (Jersey), <code>GBJ</code> (Jersey), <code>GG</code> (Guernsey), <code>GBG</code> (Guernsey), <code>GBA</code> (Alderney). <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 00:09, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
:Of all ISO codes, currently only 3166-1 alpha-3 codes consistently exist as redirects; alpha-2 codes generally don't. The [//en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:SiBr4/AWB_Reports&oldid=634203506#Two-letter-code_shortcuts_for_data_templates currently existing two-letter aliases] are a jumble of ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 codes, postal codes for the US and Canada (equal to the ISO 3166-2 codes save for the <code>US-</code>/<code>CA-</code> prefix), and acronyms, none complete. To me those are not precedents to create redirects for the alpha-2 codes for the Crown Dependencies (<code>GG</code>, <code>IM</code>, <code>JE</code>).
:<code>GBG</code>, <code>GBM</code> and <code>GBJ</code>, as well as <code>GBA</code>, are [[ISO 3166-1 alpha-3#Indeterminate reservations|indeterminately reserved]]; the current actual alpha-3 codes of the CDs are <code>GGY</code>, <code>IMN</code> and <code>JEY</code>, which are existing data template aliases. No other indeterminate reservations exist as data templates except some which are current FIFA or IOC codes (<code>BRU</code>, <code>SLO</code>, <code>WAL</code>), and <code>ROK</code> as a special case. There are no ISO codes <code>WLS</code>, <code>GBN</code> etc. at all; the ISO 3166-2 codes for the subdivisions of the UK are <code>GB-WLS</code>, <code>GB-GBN</code> etc. The only ISO 3166-2 country data redirect that currently exists is {{noredirect|Template:Country data IN-KA|IN-KA}} (Karnataka, India).
:Also, since when is "Great Britain = UK"? <span style="font-family:serif;">[[User:SiBr4|SiBr<sub>4</sub>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|talk]])</span> 10:35, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

== Commonwealth of Nations ==
The example for Commonwealth of Nations, in [[Template:Flag#Examples|Examples]], doesn't show the flag:
: <code><nowiki>{{flag|Commonwealth of Nations|name=Cmnwlth}}</nowiki></code>
produces
: <nowiki>{{flag|Commonwealth of Nations|name=Cmnwlth}}</nowiki>
with empty space where the flag should be.
--[[User:Thnidu|Thnidu]] ([[User talk:Thnidu|talk]]) 04:33, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
:This is intentional; see [[Template:Country data Commonwealth of Nations]]. Because no free image of the actual Commonwealth flag is available, a transparent placeholder image is used. <span style="font-family:serif;">[[User:SiBr4|SiBr<sub>4</sub>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|talk]])</span> 08:57, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
::{{ping|SiBr4}} Thank you for the explanation and the pointer. I've added your explanation, without signature (which would be out of place there) but with a pointer to this Talk §, to [[Template:Country data Commonwealth of Nations/doc]]. It appears on [[Template:Country data Commonwealth of Nations]] under [[Template:Country data Commonwealth of Nations#Other information|Other information]]. Since that section is near the bottom of the page and it ''looks'' as though the image is simply missing, I've boldfaced the text to make it more conspicuous. --[[User:Thnidu|Thnidu]] ([[User talk:Thnidu|talk]]) 17:44, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

== Addition that makes possible to use <code><nowiki>[[]]</nowiki></code> in the first parameter ==
Hello. I just added some code to the [[Template:Flag/sandbox]], tested in three other wikipedias. It works very fine there. It makes possible to use <code><nowiki>[[</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>]]</nowiki></code> around the name of the country. If the template is used in infoboxes, it's now possible to use a little bit smaller code there to create a link to an article. 
<pre>
* {{Flag|USA}}
* {{Flag|[[USA]]}}
* {{Flag/sandbox|[[USA]]}}
</pre>
returns
* {{Flag|USA}}
* {{Flag|[[USA]]}}
* {{Flag/sandbox|[[USA]]}}
The added code use the Lua-module [[Module:String]]. Greetings --[[User:Tlustulimu|Tlustulimu]] ([[User talk:Tlustulimu|talk]]) 13:00, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

== Need "link=" parameter or something similar to link to articles other than countries ==
Hi, it's been previously requested here and elsewhere that it would be useful to have the flag icon functionality but with the option to link to an article other than the main article for the country in question, e.g. {{flag|Peru}} appropriately links to [[Peru]], but if the article is all about tennis, then linking to [[Tennis in Peru]] would be more appropriate, possibly with something like:

: {{blue|<nowiki>{{flag|Peru|link=Tennis in Peru}}</nowiki>}}

What does everyone think? [[User:Facts707|Facts707]] ([[User talk:Facts707|talk]]) 16:42, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
:Since adding parameters to most flag templates isn't as easy as it seems (it would require adding pass-through parameters to [[:Category:Country data templates|{{PAGESINCAT:All country data templates}} templates]]), many [[:Category:Flag template system|separate templates]] exist with different output formats. For prefix links, like in your example, there is {{tl|flag+link}}:
:*{{#invoke:DemoTemplate|flag+link|Tennis in|Peru}}
:The general {{tl|flagg}} can handle prefix/suffix links as well as normal country links, and allows overriding the link target in either case:
:*{{#invoke:DemoTemplate|flagg|unc|Peru}}
:*{{#invoke:DemoTemplate|flagg|unc|Peru|link=Article title}}
:*{{#invoke:DemoTemplate|flagg|unp|Peru|pref=Tennis in}}
:*{{#invoke:DemoTemplate|flagg|unp|Peru|pref=Tennis in|flink=Article title}}
:[[User:SiBr4|<span title="User:SiBr₄">SiBr<sub>4</sub></span>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|<span title="User talk:SiBr₄">talk</span>]]) 17:11, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
::Wow, that's great - thanks much!  I found {{tl|flag-article}} but that one is intended to mark ("flag") an article for clarification/improvement. {{tl|flag+link}} is memorable but the name seems to make it hard to find unless you know what you're looking for. Maybe we could consider renaming either or both of these templates? Thanks again for all the information! [[User:Facts707|Facts707]] ([[User talk:Facts707|talk]]) 21:26, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
:::To me "flag article" or the like doesn't seem any more helpful than "flag+link". Either name implies the link target can be changed freely, which is not the case. "flagprefix" or similar would get my vote, as it suggests more clearly what the template does, and what the difference with {{tl|flag}} is. ([[Template talk:Flag+link]] is a better place for a move request though.) [[User:SiBr4|<span title="User:SiBr₄">SiBr<sub>4</sub></span>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|<span title="User talk:SiBr₄">talk</span>]]) 18:11, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

== Zambia 1964 broken?  ==
{{flagicon|Zambia|1964}} (1964) should have a darker shade of green than {{flagicon|Zambia}} (current). It looks like it's set correctly in [[Template:Country_data_Zambia|Zambia's Country data template]], but it's not coming out right for some reason. Can someone fix this? If the dash in the file name is the problem, use [[:File:Old_Flag_of_Zambia.svg|Old Flag of Zambia.svg]] (which redirects to the same old flag). —[[User:Sygmoral|Sygmoral]] ([[User talk:Sygmoral|talk]]) 02:25, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
:Fixed&mdash;variants don't work without [[Special:Diff/691199139|this line]]. [[User:SiBr4|<span title="User:SiBr₄">SiBr<sub>4</sub></span>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|<span title="User talk:SiBr₄">talk</span>]]) 07:41, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

== Broken flags ==
Hi,
the flags of {{flag|Jamaica}}, {{flag|Colombia}}, {{flag|Guinea-Bissau}} don't work currently. How to restore them? [[User:Wykx|<span style="color:#000080">'''Wykx'''</span>]] ([[User_talk:Wykx|talk]]) 21:18, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
:It works again... [[User:Wykx|<span style="color:#000080">'''Wykx'''</span>]] ([[User_talk:Wykx|talk]]) 12:53, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

== Bolivia flag ==
{{flag|Bolivia}}

The Bolivian flag doesn't include the coat of arms. Is this deliberate?[[User:Terrorist96|Terrorist96]] ([[User talk:Terrorist96|talk]]) 03:45, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

== ASEAN ==
Hi. I noticed in [[ASEAN–European Union relations]] that the flag of the [[Association of Southeast Asian Nations]] does not work in [[Template:Flag]], [[Template:Flagicon]] as well as in [[Template:Infobox bilateral relations]]. It would be nice if it can be fixed by someone. Have a great day!--[[User:Concus Cretus|Concus Cretus]] ([[User talk:Concus Cretus|talk]]) 12:50, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
:If you're referring to [[:File:Flag of ASEAN.svg]], then that file should not be added to templates. It's licensed as [[:WP:NFC|non-free content]] and therefore cannot be used in templates per [[:WP:NFCC#9]]. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 23:05, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

== Crimea ==
{{Flag|Crimea}}

The <nowiki>{{Flag|Crimea}}</nowiki> template gives a link to the [[Autonomous Republic of Crimea]] article, a clear violation of [[WP:NPOV]]. It should link to the [[Crimea]] article instead. <span style="font-family: Comic Sans">[[User:Chessrat|<span style="color:#CC9900;">Chessrat</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Chessrat|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]], [[Special:Contributions/Chessrat|<span style="color:#ff7788;">contributions</span>]]) </sup></span> 00:24, 6 August 2017 (UTC)


== Range and not arbitrary year ==
Would it be possible to have a "range" or "year range" variable which can be dynamically used to pick the right flag, based on the current year relevant to an article?
For example, if you write an article covering a certain year (for example an event, a battle), and use that year in the {{tld|flag}} template, would be great to get the correct flag from that year automatically. As in here:
*{{tld|flagicon|Germany|1870}} → {{flagicon|Germany|1866}}
*{{tld|flagicon|Germany|1918}} → {{flagicon|Germany|1866}}
*{{tld|flagicon|Germany|1919}} → {{flagicon|Germany|1919}}
*{{tld|flagicon|Germany|1920}} → {{flagicon|Germany|1919}}
Among many things, it would make it is possible to dynamically display the correct flags of the period, in articles like [[List of sovereign states in 1919]].
[[User:Codrinb|Codrin.B]] ([[User talk:Codrinb|talk]]) 14:03, 2 September 2017 (UTC)