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== Edit abuse? ==
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:''The following discussion is an archived discussion of a [[WP:RM|requested move]]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. ''

The result of the move request was '''moved to [[Template:Noticeboard links]].''' –'''[[User:Juliancolton|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:#36648B">Juliancolton</span>]]'''&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User_talk:Juliancolton|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:gray">''Talk''</span></sup>]] 00:21, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

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[[Template:Editabuselinks]] → ? &mdash; I'm not sure ''what'' to call this template, but considering that it includes links to generic help boards such as "requests for feedback", I think that a more inclusive name is in order. [[User talk:harej|@]]'''[[User:harej|harej]]''' 18:31, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
:'''Comment''' &mdash; Maybe Helpandassistlinks? 『 [[User:gu1dry|'''ɠu¹ɖяy''']] 』 <sup>[[User talk:gu1dry|¤]] • [[Special:Contributions/Gu1dry|¢]]</sup> 22:17, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
*Shouldn't this be done through [[WP:TFD]], in the same way that cats are maintained through [[WP:CFD]]? anyway, what about {{Tl|Dispute resolution navbox}}? (goes along with {{Tl|Dispute resolution}})? It's kind of wordy, but...<br/>— [[User:Ohms law|<span style="background:white; text-shadow:grey 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em; class=texhtml"><i>V</i> = <i>I</i> * <i>R</i></span>]] ([[User talk:Ohms law|talk to Ω]]) 12:07, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
** [[WP:TFD]] explicitly says that templates should go through the regular requested-move process. [[User talk:harej|@]]'''[[User:harej|harej]]''' 17:17, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
***Ah, I see that now... well, uh, yea I'll stick with recommending {{Tl|Dispute resolution navbox}}.<br/>— [[User:Ohms law|<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em; class=texhtml"><i>V</i> = <i>I</i> * <i>R</i></span>]] ([[User talk:Ohms law|talk to Ω]]) 02:11, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Since very few of these things are about dispute resolution, how about "Template:Noticeboard links"? [[User talk:harej|@]]'''[[User:harej|harej]]''' 02:13, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Sounds good to me.<br/>— [[User:Ohms law|<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em; class=texhtml"><i>V</i> = <i>I</i> * <i>R</i></span>]] ([[User talk:Ohms law|talk to Ω]]) 02:25, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Fine with me also. 『 [[User:gu1dry|'''ɠu¹ɖяy''']] 』 <sup>[[User talk:gu1dry|¤]] • [[Special:Contributions/Gu1dry|¢]]</sup> 09:38, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Far more logical name than the current one. [[User:Jafeluv|Jafeluv]] ([[User talk:Jafeluv|talk]]) 20:18, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:But Noticeboard links are only one section of the navbox, the entire thing deals with dispute resolution. I think {{tl|Dispute resolution links}} is good. -- [[User:OlEnglish|<span style="font-size:x-large;">&oelig;</span>]][[User talk:OlEnglish|<sup>&trade;</sup>]] 17:56, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:: How much of it deals with dispute resolution? I'm not sure what you're referring to. [[User talk:harej|@]]'''[[User:harej|harej]]''' 21:00, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:I don't mind if this gets renamed, but I'm at a loss to see how the name of the template is terribly important. [[User:Protonk|Protonk]] ([[User talk:Protonk|talk]]) 21:55, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:: Template names should be descriptive of what they are. [[User talk:harej|@]]'''[[User:harej|harej]]''' 22:04, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
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==Editprotected request==
{{tl|editprotected}}

I'd like to replace the link: <code><nowiki>[[Wikipedia:User Page Design Center/Help and collaboration/Help Requests|User page help]]</nowiki></code>

with the updated: <code><nowiki>[[Wikipedia:User page design center/Help and collaboration/Help requests|User page help]]</nowiki></code>

to bypass the redirect. Thanks. -- [[User:OlEnglish|<span style="font-size:x-large;">&oelig;</span>]][[User talk:OlEnglish|<sup>&trade;</sup>]] 18:03, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

PS. the "Arbitration: Requests / Enforcement" links have also been moved to different titles.
:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:EP --> Thank you. - [[User:Rjd0060|Rjd0060]] ([[User talk:Rjd0060|talk]]) 21:59, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

== Add External links/Noticeboard ==
I suggest linking the new [[Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard]] in the Content section. (Noticeboard has been discussed/approved at [[WT:EL]]). Thanks. -- [[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] ([[User talk:Quiddity|talk]]) 17:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:I second this request. Would help to popularize the new board. '''[[User:Themfromspace|<span style="color:blue;">Them</span>]][[User talk:Themfromspace|<span style="color:red;">From</span>]][[Special:Contributions/themfromspace|<span style="color:black;">Space</span>]]''' 22:31, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::I agree as well. [[User:UncleDouggie|UncleDouggie]] ([[User talk:UncleDouggie|talk]]) 08:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Yup. agree. --[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] ([[User talk:Hu12|talk]]) 15:42, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

{{added}} --[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] ([[User talk:Hu12|talk]]) 13:22, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== Request for edit to fix AR link ==
{{tl|editprotected}}
As part of the [[Wikipedia:Abuse_response/2009_Revamp| total revamp]] of the old Abuse Report system we have moved and renamed the project to [[Wikipedia:Abuse response]]. As part of the last stage of the rename the main page was recently moved. While there is a redirect from the old [[Wikipedia:Abuse report]] main page we are trying to change all the links we can. Since this high visibility template links to the abuse response system we were wondering if you could make the following change:

Replace: <nowiki> [[Wikipedia:Abuse reports|ISP reporting]] </nowiki>  

With: <nowiki> [[Wikipedia:Abuse response|ISP reporting]] </nowiki>

If for some reason you are hesitant to do this edit please feel free to contact me or any of the other contacts listed on [[Wikipedia:Abuse response]].[[User:Jamesofur|Jamesofur]] ([[User talk:Jamesofur|talk]]) 08:05, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:{{done}} ≈&nbsp;[[User:Chamal_N|'''C'''hamal]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Chamal_N|<sup><span style="color:#C71585;">talk</span></sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Chamal_N|¤]] 09:32, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

== Backlogs? ==
I saw a thread at [[WP:ANI]] that had a suggestion to have an indicator on this template for backlogs. Is this feasible? [[User:NotAnonymous0|<span style="color:green;">N</span>]]/[[User Talk:NotAnonymous0|<span style="color:blue;">A</span>]][[Special:Contributions/NotAnonymous0|<span style="color:purple; font-size:smaller;">0</span>]] 00:50, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

:Sounds like a job for a bot, although I wonder if the transclusion process would mean that the template updates on other pages immediately or later. If it's the latter, then it wouldn't help a great deal. I'd also be interested in bandwidth implications - AIV can go into and out of backlog several times an hour all day; that could mean a bot flagging and unflagging the AIV entry maybe 30+ times a day, with the transclusions all having to change as well. <small>[[User:Redvers/SN|⇦]]'''[[User talk:Redvers|REDVƎRS]]'''[[User:Redvers/SN|⇨]]</small> 06:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== Unprotect, please ==
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I don't see any reason to have this be fully protected. Thanks. --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] ([[User talk:MZMcBride|talk]]) 19:17, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:Well it's fairly heavily transcluded, but I have reduced the protection as requested. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 21:00, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

==Add a link to the Pending changes noticeboard?==
Perhaps during the pending changes trial a link to the noticeboard for issues might be a good idea?.  [[Wikipedia:Pending changes/Noticeboard]].  --[[User:Rocksanddirt|Rocksanddirt]] ([[User talk:Rocksanddirt|talk]]) 17:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

== Structure of template ==
User issues are placed ''third'' from the top, when they are in fact, the primary reason this site exists.  This template needs to be redesigned for functionality and sorted appropriately. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 09:32, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
:Still no response or action taken since my initial posting in 2011.  The readability of the links in terms of locating and finding relevant information is less than zero.  It needs to be changed. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 03:11, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

== WTF ==
Seriously, can people stop messing around with the layout of this? Every day I come here and someone has moved everything around again. It's annoying and makes it difficult to find the links I'm looking for. - [[User:Burpelson AFB|Burpelson AFB]] [[User talk:Burpelson AFB|✈]] 17:37, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

== More links! ==

What about adding [[WP:NFCR]]? It's missing from the copyright related links. [[User:Ocaasi|Ocaasi]]<sup> [[User talk:Ocaasi|t ]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ocaasi| c]]</sup> 01:14, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

== Skip to bottom ==

Why does this template now transclude "Skip to bottom"? It messes up my UP layout so I'm removing this template from it.  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Targaryen|Targaryen]] ([[User talk:Targaryen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Targaryen|contribs]]) 19:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== WQA may close ==

There is a proposal at [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Closing_Wikipedia:Wikiquette_assistance|the Village Pump]] to close the [[WP:WQA|Wikiquette page]].  The consensus appears to be moving in favor of closing, but the discussion is still on-going.  If it were closed, ''this'' project page would need to be modified to remove WQA and perhaps replace it with  something (perhaps a link to [[WP:DR|Dispute Resolution process]] or [[WP:3O|Third Opinion]] because the latter may take on much of the workload).   Please comment at the Village Pump discussion (not here, so the talk is colocated) if you have any thoughts. --[[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 13:49, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

== Draft of a revised template (menu) ==

I've posted, at [[Template talk:Noticeboard links/Draft]], a suggested revision. The aim is to get two reactions - (1) "It doesn't look all that much different", and (2) "I didn't realize we had a noticeboard/venue for ''that'' or ''that''."

Suggestions (feel free to do directly to the draft) are welcome, of course. Here's what changed:

*In general: when there are multiple items associated with a particular type of link (for example, Village pump), the actual links are smaller and within a set of parentheses

* "Requests for closure" has been moved out of "Administrator", and is now a separate item (similar to how "Edit warring", another noticeboard, is handled). It is titled "Closure" (similar to other noticeboards, where "Request for" is not shown in the menu)/

* "Media copyright" is now in the second group ("Content"), rather than the first ("General"), and has been grouped with a similar item, "Copyright problems", in a new topic, "Copyrights".

*"Abuse response" has been retitled "reporting (with the "Abuse" topic) for clarity.

* The link to the main Arbitration Committee noticeboard has been retitled to make it clearer that only the Committee can post there; this is not a noticeboard for general posting by any editor.

* "Sanctions" is now "Article sanctions"; "Restrictions" is now "Editor restrictions"; the two are now not tied to each other. They have been moved to different places in the group, based on alphabetization.

* The "Help" link to [[Wikipedia:Questions]] has been removed; that page is not a noticeboard, it's a directory - the only one in the entire template. The topic has been retitled "Questions", following the name of the (no-longer-linked-to) directory page.

*"Resource Exchange" is now "Resource requests" ("Resource" isn't clear enough to stand on its own)

Group 4 has been sorted so that the Help- (Question-) related links are not at the end of the group.

-- <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:John Broughton|John Broughton]] </span>  [[User talk:John Broughton |(♫♫)]] 03:15, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

:Looks very nice! I've moved the draft page to [[Template:Noticeboard links/sandbox]], the usual location for template drafts. (The {{tl|documentation}} and {{tl|edit protected}} templates are set up expecting template drafts to be put there, which gives us a number of Handy Links that I quite like.) The one thing I don't agree with is the decreased size of the text in brackets - I think this makes it harder to read, and most of these links are ones that editors are likely to want to click on, so I don't see too much reason to make them less prominent than the other text. Other than that, I think it's a definite improvement. I've also created a [[Template:Noticeboard links/testcases|test cases page]] for people who want to see the draft and the main template at the same time. — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span>]]''''' <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪ talk ♪]]</sup> 10:48, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
::Great proposal/draft, and I agree with Mr. Stradivarius' suggestion to remove the decreased sizing. I've [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template%3ANoticeboard_links%2Fsandbox&diff=557722802&oldid=557663699 done this] to the sandbox version. I support this update. –[[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] ([[User talk:Quiddity|talk]]) 18:55, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Quick addendum: The only (Bracketed) group that currently has a wikilink as part of the name, is [[WP:VP|Village pump]]. We could remove the wikilink from that, so that the black font more clearly indicates that a group (...) is following? –[[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] ([[User talk:Quiddity|talk]]) 06:08, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
:::: {{replyto|Quiddity}} - I think that's a good suggestion; I'll make that. -- <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:John Broughton|John Broughton]] </span>  [[User talk:John Broughton |(♫♫)]] 03:36, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
*'''Support''' update as well--much clearer. '''[[User:Theopolisme|<span style="color:#232323;">Theopolisme</span>]] <span style="color:#4F4F4F;">([[User talk:Theopolisme|<span style="color:#4F4F4F;">talk</span>]])</span>''' 05:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
**I haven't seen any objections, so I've gone ahead and updated the template (with the normal-sized text). I've no objections if anyone else wants to tweak it later. — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius on tour|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius on tour</span>]]''''' <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius on tour|♪ talk ♪]]</sup> 07:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
***{{replyto|Mr. Stradivarius on tour}} - Thanks for implementing the change! -- <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:John Broughton|John Broughton]] </span>  [[User talk:John Broughton |(♫♫)]] 03:36, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

== Changing template ==
Right now, at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Abuse response]], there is a conversation on eliminating the Abuse listing on this template since that project appears to be inactive. [[User:Liz|<span style="font-family:Rage Italic; font-size:large; color:#800080;">'''''L'''''iz</span>]] <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|<b style="color:#006400;">''Read!''</b>]] [[User talk:Liz|<b style="color:#006400;">''Talk!''</b>]]</sup> 15:20, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

== Template-protected edit request on 28 June 2014 ==

{{edit template-protected|Template:Noticeboard links|answered=yes}}
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At the bottom of the template, it says that for users using Twinkle to file reports on other users, Twinkle will "''automagically''" handle the diffs for them. I believe that there is a typo, and so "automagically" should be changed to "automatically."
<!-- End request -->
[[User:LightandDark2000|LightandDark2000]] ([[User talk:LightandDark2000|talk]]) 03:09, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
:{{Not done}}: There is no such text in this template. On what page did you see the text "Twinkle will automagically handle the diffs"? <span style="font-family:serif;">[[User:SiBr4|SiBr<sub>4</sub>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|talk]])</span> 08:42, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
:Found it &ndash; it's at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring/Header]], which is only semi-protected. The text was added by {{u|AzaToth}} [[Special:Diff/558287259|here]].
:BTW, it appears [[wikt:automagically|"automagically"]] is actually an existing word, though it's probably a typo in this case. <span style="font-family:serif;">[[User:SiBr4|SiBr<sub>4</sub>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|talk]])</span> 08:50, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
::Not a tyop <sub>→[[User:AzaToth|<span style="color:#773">Aza</span>]][[User_talk:AzaToth|<span style="color:#359">Toth</span>]]</sub> 12:39, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

== Template-protected edit request on 6 July 2014 ==

{{edit template-protected|Template:Noticeboard links|answered=yes}}
<!-- Begin request -->
Currently the link for "paid editing" goes to Wikiproject Cooperation. I think that it is more useful for paid editors that it go to the link at the COI page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#Paid_editing 
<!-- End request -->
[[User:Figureofnine|Figureofnine]] <small>([[User talk:Figureofnine|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Figureofnine|contribs]])</small>  21:10, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=]] '''Not done:''' please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration before using the {{tlx|edit template-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ETp --> I oppose this change until a wider community consensus is reached. — <span class="nowrap">&#123;&#123;U&#124;[[User:Technical 13|Technical 13]]&#125;&#125; <sup>([[Special:EmailUser/Technical 13|e]] • [[User talk:Technical 13|t]] • [[Special:Contribs/Technical 13|c]])</sup></span> 01:08, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

==Template revamp==
Per the above [[Template talk:Noticeboard links#Structure of template|Structure of template]] and a request at [[User talk:Anna Frodesiak#Template readability issue|my talk page]], I have created the following draft of the template:

Direct link: [[Template:Noticeboard links/sandbox]]
{{Template:Noticeboard links/sandbox}}

Please help to improve this template. Once it looks as good as it is going to get, someone should type 'Done!' at the bottom of this thread, and then, if there are no objections after a week, we can swap it in as the new version. Any objections to this plan? [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak|talk]]) 08:05, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

:This was originally designed for admins.  It has grown since that time but has not had a major update reflecting this change.  The template does not invite the general community to participate. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 11:14, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

::I've histmerged [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] into [[Template:Noticeboard links/sandbox]]. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 16:35, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
:::Thank you so much, my friend. :) [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak|talk]]) 20:30, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

{{ping|Anna Frodesiak}} The "Other" menu category is poorly named and contains noticeboard links that would be better placed elsewhere. Arbitration should not be something "other".  In that category, many  of the questions should be linked in the first menu (editor assistance, help desk, teahouse) general or not. The organization here is very poor.  New user menus are currently buried at the bottom.  This is ridiculous.  We need to imply in the design that there are new users, experienced users, and power users.  So there should be a three menu interface allowing the initial click to change the entire menu to the suggested user experience menu on top.  In other words, the destination board has one of the three color coded menus.  For example, a user clicks ANI.  At the board you get the power user interface.  But wait, a user clicks on editor assistance.  Then it changes to more of a new user menu.  So the first click on any menu will bring you to one of three interfaces.  So I'm proposing three different menus to cover all of the linked articles sorted by user expertise instead of one single template menu.  That's why the sort is so off. A new user clicking on the arbitration board should get a menu of power user links, not a link to editor assistance.  Of course, it's possible that those links are still accessible but grayed out, highlighting the current menu.  In that case, we could keep the current menu but change the color scheme depending on which noticeboard you were visiting.  Of course, this menu should interface with others universally, such as {{tl|Help navigation}}. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 10:45, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
:Hi, [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]]. I'm just starting to look into it now. [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak|talk]]) 23:19, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
::This may be a stupid question, but are you talking about this navbox linking to other navboxes? [[User:Anna Frodesiak|Anna Frodesiak]] ([[User talk:Anna Frodesiak|talk]]) 23:22, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
:::There's no such thing as a stupid question.  No, I'm not exactly talking about it linking to other navboxes, but rather having relevant links act as an intuitive menu interface.  New users looking for help aren't going to need links to admin-related boards, and admins aren't going to be looking for new user help pages, etc. I guess a good way to start is to address my concerns about the "Other" category up above. I don't think questions about editor assistance, help desk, new articles, new editors, and the Teahouse are "Other" nor should they buried at the bottom of a template.  At the very least, these topics fall under the category of general assistance, and should be listed at the very top. Unless of course we want to continue alienating our editorial base and preaching to the choir.  At some point, the sound of our own voices will become an echo chamber.  Again, this problem arises because the noticeboards were originally designed for power users (aka admins).  We need to start designing this site for the general user, and that begins here. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 02:54, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

== Edit warring noticeboard ==
The main noticeboard listings under Help lists the edit warring noticeboard along with AN and AN/I. Should this be added? [[User:Kindzmarauli|Kindzmarauli]] ([[User talk:Kindzmarauli|talk]]) 20:02, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
: Hello? [[User:Kindzmarauli|Kindzmarauli]] ([[User talk:Kindzmarauli|talk]]) 16:43, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
:{{ping|Kindzmarauli}} I think the edit warring noticeboard is already in the template under "User conduct". [[User:Protonk|Protonk]] ([[User talk:Protonk|talk]]) 17:14, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
:: Oh there it is. Nevermind LOL [[User:Kindzmarauli|Kindzmarauli]] ([[User talk:Kindzmarauli|talk]]) 18:47, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

== Template-protected edit request on 30 October 2014 ==

{{edit template-protected|Template:Noticeboard links|answered=yes}}
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Add following brief Code at the top of the template source code => 

| basestyle = text-align: center; 

Reason: to "center" group titles - seems more regular and better than present (default?) right-justify unevenness to group titles.

Thanks in any case of course - and - Enjoy! :) [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 22:24, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

<!-- End request -->
[[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 22:24, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}. This is the default style for navboxes. Why should this one be any different? <code style="white-space:nowrap">-- [[[[User:Edokter|<span style="color:#006">User:Edokter</span>]]]] {&#123;[[User talk:Edokter|<span style="color:#060">talk</span>]]&#125;}</code> 22:26, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

::@{{u|Edokter}} - Thank you *very much* for your comments - no problem whatsoever - however, "centering" group titles seems more regular and better than present unevenness in group titles - in any case - Enjoy! :) [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 22:32, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

==Suggestion==

How about adding [[Wikipedia:Requests for permissions]] to the navbox? Seems to follow criteria for inclusion. --[[User:Mrjulesd|<span style="font-family:'Segoe Script',cursive; color:blue;">'''Mrjulesd'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mrjulesd|<span style="font-family:'Segoe Script',cursive; color:orange;">(talk)</span>]] 11:36, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
:{{done}} — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#00FF00;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:24, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks. ----[[User:Mrjulesd|<span style="font-family:'Segoe Script',cursive; color:blue;">'''Mrjulesd'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mrjulesd|<span style="font-family:'Segoe Script',cursive; color:orange;">(talk)</span>]] 18:27, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

== Template-protected edit request on 18 March 2015 ==

{{edit template-protected|Template:Noticeboard links|answered=yes}}
Add a link to [[WP:REPAIR]].

<code><nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen|History merges]]</nowiki></code> (immediately after [[WP:Requested Moves|Moves]]) By the way, why should this page be protected? [[User:SD0001|SD0001]] ([[User talk:SD0001|talk]]) 13:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ETp --> I agree about the protection as well, so I left a message on Xaosflux's talk page. Semi-protection should be enough for our purposes here, I think. — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr.&nbsp;Stradivarius</span>]]''''' <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪&nbsp;talk&nbsp;♪]]</sup> 10:57, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
::{{done}} Reduced edit protection to autoconfirmed. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#00FF00;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:58, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

== Organization ==

The categories that the noticeboards are put into seem rather arbitrary in some circumstances... especially with regards to the "General" vs. the "Other" category, as well as other examples in the general/other category that should probably be in the page handling and/or the user conduct sections. Does anybody have any ideas for a more coherent organization that actually makes sense? <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; font-variant:caps;">[[User:Kharkiv07|<span style="color:black">Kharkiv07</span>]] ([[User talk:Kharkiv07|<span style="color: black">T</span>]])</span> 13:17, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
:Agreed, and I noticed this when adding [[WP:EFN|EFN]], I had basically no idea which category to put it in based on the current categorisation. It ended up little more than an educated guess so I'm supportive of reorganising. [[User:Samwalton9|'''S'''am '''W'''alton]] ([[User talk:Samwalton9|talk]]) 14:03, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

==Why?==

{{u|Mlpearc}} would you like to explain why you reverted me here [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Noticeboard_links&diff=747474961&oldid=747470911] ? Just general c/e, nothing very controversial I thought. [[User:Mrjulesd|<span style="color:orange;">--Jules</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mrjulesd|(Mrjulesd)]] 16:08, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

:{{re|Mrjulesd}} Yes, I feel the changes you made should be discussed and gain consensus first as stated in my edit summary. Mostly the link names you changed have been there for a long time so I feel consensus is warranted.  - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Mlpearc|<span style="color:#800000">'''Mlpearc'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Mlpearc|<span style="color:#FFD700">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 16:15, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
::OK could you more specific about which changes you are opposed to? Maybe there can be a compromise we can come to. [[User:Mrjulesd|<span style="color:orange;">--Jules</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mrjulesd|(Mrjulesd)]] 16:17, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
:::{{re|Mrjulesd}} My concerns are irrelevant, It's the users who see, rely on and use this template on a daily basis want these changes, I'm not talking about link targets but for instance changing <code><nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Deletion process|XfD]]</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Deletion process|Deletion]]</nowiki></code> although in no way incorrect, but changes like this to a highly visible template and I think you should ask the users of this template if they want this type of change.  - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Mlpearc|<span style="color:#800000">'''Mlpearc'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Mlpearc|<span style="color:#FFD700">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 16:27, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
::::{{u|Mlpearc}} OK well the way consensus is meant to work is that well-reasoned arguments are made for and against changes to whatever. I feel that "I think you should ask the users of this template" is hardly a well reasoned argument. Were discussing it, you're unhappy, I'm asking why, and you're saying it should be discussed. In other words no progress is being made. [[User:Mrjulesd|<span style="color:orange;">--Jules</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mrjulesd|(Mrjulesd)]] 17:20, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
:::::{{u|Mrjulesd}} Where's the fire ? The template isn't going anywhere. I feel I've made my point, I'll wait for others' to voice. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Mlpearc|<span style="color:#800000">'''Mlpearc'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Mlpearc|<span style="color:#FFD700">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 20:56, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
::::::{{u|Mlpearc}} I take by your responses that you have no personal objections to the edit, but feel that others may not like change. Is this correct? [[User:Mrjulesd|<span style="color:orange;">--Jules</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mrjulesd|(Mrjulesd)]] 21:50, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

== Trim some links? ==

I think some links are not used very often and could be moved to a collapsed section (or removed entirely). In particular, [[WP:Sanctions]], [[WP:EDR]], and [[WP:GS]] aren't noticeboards and probably could be collapsed. [[WP:SVG help]] and [[WP:SPLICE]] don't get that many edits either. Thoughts? [[User:Enterprisey|Enterprisey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Enterprisey|talk!]]) 17:37, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
:These links seem appropriate for the template's purpose, and many have existed on it for quite some time. [[WP:EDR]], [[WP:GS]], [[WP:SVG help]] and [[WP:SPLICE]] seem best described as 'noticeboards' as they give notice and discuss changes. I see no point in removing any of them. [[User:Mrjulesd|<span style="color:orange;">--Jules</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mrjulesd|(Mrjulesd)]] 20:07, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

== WP:CENT ==

{{reply-to|Headbomb}} Per [[WP:BIDI]], constituents of navboxes are expected to have the navbox on the page. Do you have an opinion on that? --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 04:46, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
:{{Re|Bsherr}} Guidelines are exactly that, guidelines. They aren't rules that must absolutely be obeyed regardless of every other consideration. This is why we have [[WP:IAR]] and also the general warning that "[Guidlines are] a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, '''though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply.'''" That said, if you want to add {{tl|Noticeboard links}} at the bottom [[WP:CENT]], be my guest. &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 04:52, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
::Okay, and why should this be an exception to [[WP:BIDI]]? --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 04:56, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
:::[[WP:1Q|Because]] the navbox is better with the link than without. &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 05:06, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
::::No, that part I got from your earlier edit summary. I'm asking why you are asserting that the navbox shouldn't then be on [[WP:CENT]], per [[WP:IAR]]. --[[User:Bsherr|Bsherr]] ([[User talk:Bsherr|talk]]) 05:17, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::I'm not? &#32;<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 05:33, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

== Inclusion of XRV in template ==

While Administrator Action Review (XRV) is a new forum, the idea, as approved in the RfC establishing it, is to have a forum parallel to DRV and MRV. As neither of those forums are listed on this template I would suggest it should also not be listed. My removal, following discussion at XRV about it, was reverted by {{u|Headbomb}} so I posting here for more discussion. Best, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 04:03, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

:@[[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]], is there a reason why the board is listed inside the administrator brackets when it's specifically not solely intended for sysops? I imagine it might be more suited to be in the "User conduct" area, since reports concern a user's use of tools. Best, <span style="font-family:'Tahoma'; color:#005494">[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] <sup>([[User talk:Giraffer|talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Giraffer|contribs]])</sup></span> 12:59, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
::@[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] headbomb moved it there as an attempted compromise. But again we don't consider evaluating a deletion close or move close user conduct so I don't think we should consider this a conduct forum. Best,@[[User:Giraffer|Giraffer]] [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 13:06, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
*I do think it is beneficial to have it there in some sense, especially because it is a ''general'' functionality, as opposed to MRV or DRV. It also will help in a practical sense, giving additional awareness of it. However, I'm not sure where exactly within the template is the best place for it [[User:Nosebagbear|Nosebagbear]] ([[User talk:Nosebagbear|talk]]) 13:10, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
*:I think making it about the editor rather than the decision will make for a less healthy XRV culture. The focus on decision rather than editor at DRV and MRV doesn't mean editors don't get discussed but it does mean that it gets pushed back on and weighted appropriately by the closers. Given the already present concerns about XRV being RFC/U 2, I think it important to set expectations in a way that's good for our community's overall health from the start. Best, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 15:53, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
*::I agree that administrative action review is more akin to move review and deletion review, rather than a general noticeboard. Based on this I don't think it's a good fit for this template. I do think there may be an issue with how to get the uninitiated to know where to raise a question about the wide variety of administrative actions covered by the page. (Deletion review, in contrast, is easily referred to from the deletion process pages.) But I don't think a simple link in this template will help, as it won't be able to provide appropriate context to understand when it applies. [[User:Isaacl|isaacl]] ([[User talk:Isaacl|talk]]) 21:28, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
*DRV doesn't explore administrator conduct, but [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/RHaworth]] was very heavily attended by deletion review regulars, and for good reason.  I would see XRV's role as similar: it would review individual decisions and not conduct, but it might identify a pattern of problematic behaviour that could be raised elsewhere.  I agree that it shouldn't be listed inside the administrator brackets for the moment.—[[User:S Marshall|<b style="font-family: Verdana; color: Maroon;">S&nbsp;Marshall</b>]]&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:S Marshall|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/S Marshall|C]]</small> 13:31, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

There does not seem to be consensus for inclusion of the link and so I am going to restore the [[WP:STATUSQUO|STATUSQUO]] version. Best, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 15:49, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|Ivanvector}} regarding your edit summary - because of this lack of consensus is why. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 18:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
::Fair enough, I've reverted. I added it just then because I'm not that familiar with the shortcut and had to run around to a bunch of different pages to find the noticeboard. It seems to me that it should be more broadly visible than that. [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]] (<sup>[[User talk:Ivanvector|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Ivanvector|Edits]]</sub>) 18:49, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

== Should we include WP:DFD in the template? ==
[[WP:DFD|Discussions for discussion]] is a moderately new board for discussion closers to discuss evaluation of consensus in discussions. Given that it died down for about six months in participation due to not being advertised, as seen by [[WT:Discussions for discussion#Wow|MJL's comments on the talk page]], could it be sensible to add the board to the noticeboard list? [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:5800:1A1F:249F:60D4:52C:AF89|2601:647:5800:1A1F:249F:60D4:52C:AF89]] ([[User talk:2601:647:5800:1A1F:249F:60D4:52C:AF89|talk]]) 05:15, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

== Should WP:TEA be included? ==

The Teahouse could be a good thing to include on here (potentially after the Village Pump)... Thoughts? 
* [[Wikipedia:Teahouse]]
[[User:BhamBoi|BhamBoi]] ([[User talk:BhamBoi|talk]]) 07:23, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
:Has been since 2012 [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:Noticeboard_links&oldid=498122763]. Cheers. [[Special:Contributions/98.246.75.122|98.246.75.122]] ([[User talk:98.246.75.122|talk]]) 08:48, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
::Ha, maybe I need to get my vision checked! [[User:BhamBoi|BhamBoi]] ([[User talk:BhamBoi|talk]]) 18:19, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

== skip to TOC ==
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The inpage link -skip to TOC- in the right hand top corner works in Vector 2010 but not in Vector 2022. [[User:Uwappa|Uwappa]] ([[User talk:Uwappa|talk]]) 16:04, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
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:@[[User:Uwappa|Uwappa]] sorry, rabbit hole was deeper! I left a note at [[Template_talk:Skip_to_bottom#TOC_Useless_with_vector-2022]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:24, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
::No worries, cancelled question here. Thank you. [[User:Uwappa|Uwappa]] ([[User talk:Uwappa|talk]]) 16:30, 28 March 2023 (UTC)