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== Analogue / Digital ==
I think Analogue / Digital classification of formats should be done. Have you any idea on how to do this? I think to add two columns (Analogue / Digital) and obviously to leave the two already existing rows (Magnetic / Optical) but I don't know how to do this. Please collaborate. [[User:Armando82|Armando82]] (26 - June - 2006)

:I did the following template starting from [[Template:CompressionMethods]]. It finally do Analogue / Digital classification of formats. Unfortunately, there are some graphical issues. Can anyone fix these, please? [[User:Armando82|Armando82]] 22:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

::This final version seems ready for deployment. Do you agree? Suggestion? Enhancements? [[User:Armando82|Armando82]] 19:08, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I think  that looks a bit too cluttered. Would it possible to home analog and digital categories so they appear next to the media type so formats could be split horizontally?--[[User:Kevin586|Kevin586]] 16:05, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

'''(Below is a past snap shot !!)'''
{{Navbox generic
|name    = was "Home video"
|title   = Industrial & [[home video]] media
|style   =

|group1  = [[Magnetic tape]]
|list1   = <table style="width: 100%;">

<tr>

<td>
'''[[Analog signal|Analog]]'''<hr/>
[[VERA videotape format|VERA]] (1952) – [[2 inch Quadruplex videotape]] (1956) – [[1 inch type A videotape]] (1965) – [[1/4 inch Akai]] (1967) – [[1/8 inch kumi kater]] (1968) - [[U-matic]] (1969) – [[Cartrivision]] (1972) – [[Video Cassette Recording]] (aka VCR) (1972) – [[V-Cord]] (1974) – [[VX (videocassette format)|VX]] (aka "The Great Time Machine") (1974) – '''[[Betamax]]''' (1975) – [[IVC 2 inch Helical scan]] (1975) - [[1 inch type B videotape]] (1976) – [[1 inch type C videotape]] (1976) – '''[[VHS]]''' (1976) –
[[VK (videocassette format)|VK]] (1977) – [[Video Cassette Recording|SVR]] (1979) – [[Video 2000]] (1980) – [[Compact Video Cassette|CVC]] (1980) – [[VHS-C]] (1982) – [[M (videocassette format)|M]] (1982) – '''[[Betacam]]''' (1982) – [[8 mm video format|Video8]] (1985) – [[MII (videocassette format)|MII]] (1986) – [[S-VHS]] (1987) – '''[[8 mm video format|Hi8]]''' (1989) – [[VHS-C|S-VHS-C]] (1987) – [[W-VHS]] (1992)
</td>

<td>
'''[[Digital]]'''<hr/>
[[D1 (Sony)|D1]] (1986) – [[D2 (video format)|D2]] (1988) – [[D3 video|D3]] (1991) – [[D5 HD|D5]] (1994) – [[Digital-S]] (D9) (199?) – '''[[DV]]''' (1995) – [[HDCAM#HDCAM_.2F_HDCAM_SR|Betacam HDCAM]] (1997) – [[D-VHS]] (1998) –[[Digital8]] (1999) – [[D6 HDTV VTR]] (2000) - [[HDV]] (2003)
</td>

</tr></table>


|group2  = [[Optical disc]]
|list2   = <table style="width: 100%;">

<tr>

<td>
'''[[Analog signal|Analog]]'''<hr>
'''[[LaserDisc]]''' (1978) –
[[Laserfilm]] (1984) –
</td>

<td>
'''[[Digital]]'''<hr/>
[[CD Video]] –
[[Video CD|VCD]] (1993) –
'''[[DVD-Video]]''' (1996) –
[[MiniDVD]] –
[[China Video Disc|CVD]] (1998) –
[[Super Video CD|SVCD]] (1998) –
[[Fluorescent Multilayer Disc|FMD]] (2000) –
[[Enhanced Versatile Disc|EVD]] (2003) –
[[Forward Versatile Disc|FVD]] (2005) –
[[Universal Media Disc|UMD]] (2005) –
[[Versatile Multilayer Disc|VMD]] (2006) –
'''[[HD DVD]]''' (2006) –
'''[[Blu-ray Disc|Blu-ray Disc (BD)]]''' (2006) –
[[Digital Multilayer Disk|DMD]] (2006?) –
[[AVCHD]] (2006) –
[[Tapestry Media]] (2007) –
[[Total Hi Def]] (2007) –
[[Holographic Versatile Disc|HVD]] (TBA) –
[[PH-DVD]] (TBA) –
[[Stacked Volumetric Optical Disk|SVOD]] (TBA) –
[[TeraDisc]] (TBA)
</td>

</tr></table>


|group3  = [[Videodisc|Grooved Videodiscs]]
|list3   = <table style="width: 100%;">

<tr>

<td>
'''[[Analog signal|Analog]]'''<hr/>
[[Phonovision|Baird Television Record]] aka [[Phonovision]] (1927) – [[Television Electronic Disc|TeD]] (1974) – [[Capacitance Electronic Disc]] aka [[Capacitance Electronic Disc|CED]] (1981) – [[Video High Density|VHD]] (1983)
</td>

</tr></table>

}}

== [[8 mm film]] and [[Super 8 mm film]]? ==

Should [[8 mm film]] and [[Super 8 mm film]] be added to this template?  If not, why not? [[User:Appzter|appzter]] 03:12, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
: 8 mm film isn't really a home video format. Super 8 looks like it should be added. [[User:Fresheneesz|Fresheneesz]] 22:57, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
:: Maybe, but Super 8 is a motion picture film format, not a videotape format.  Not to pooh-pooh anything here, but shouldn't this template be reserved for electronic video formats?  BTW, this kind of reminds me of one format that would definitely blur this line, the [[Electronic Video Recording]] format developed by [[CBS Laboratories]] in the late 60s.  It was film-based with a visible image on the film, but electronically recorded to film via an [[Electron beam recorder]] and reproduced to a tv set using a player fitted with a [[flying spot scanner]].  I wonder where this would fit in the template....? :) [[User:Misternuvistor|misternuvistor]] 06:51, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

== Removal of [[DVD]] from the template ==

I thought I'd make a topic here to discuss the matter, so I can fully explain the reasoning behind removing [[DVD]] in favor of the [[DVD-Video]] article.

The basic issue is thus: we do not link to articles on the media itself unless that article also contains information on the video format(s) used on that media.  For example, we have links for [[Video CD]], [[Super Video CD]], even [[CD Video]], but we do ''not'' link to the [[Compact Disc]] article.  With the current rewrites to the [[DVD]] article and the creation of a separate [[DVD-Video]] article the appropriate link to include is DVD-Video, not DVD.  If something changes, such as a sub-categorization by media type, then we should include '''both''' [[DVD]] and [[Compact Disc]] in the template to be consistent. -- [[User:Yukichigai|Y]]'''[[WP:IKNOWBEST|<span style="color:black;">&#124;</span>]]'''[[User:Yukichigai|yukichigai]] (<sub>[[User talk:Yukichigai|ramble]]</sub> <small>[[Y:V%26A|argue]]</small> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Yukichigai|check]]</sup>) 00:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC)



== 1/8" kumi kater????? (and IVC 2") and (VK) ==

I've noticed that the template here has an entry for '1/8" kumi kater (1968)' under the Magnetic Tape section.  Now, I've done a lot of research on video formats (not to brag), and I have never seen a single piece of info on a "1/8 Kumi Kater" videotape format from 1968.  Further searching on Google results in only its presence on Wikipedia, and other sites that mirror Wikipedia's content.  Anyone (especially the user who added in this format in the template) care to elaborate/shed light on this mystery format?
Also, I noticed that there's an entry for the [[IVC 2 inch Helical scan]] format as well.  This is legit, it's officially referred to as the IVC 9000 format, after the model of VTR that IVC made utilizing this format.  It was well used in the 1970's for television production, due to it's multi-generational resilience for dubbing video (in turn due to being such a high-quality format).  There is an [[International Video Corporation|article here for IVC themselves]], maybe the link in this template for IVC 2" could be redirected to there?  What do you all think? [[User:Misternuvistor|misternuvistor]] 06:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


*Thank you, misternuvistor, for moving [[IVC (videotape recorder)]] to [[International Video Corporation]] and for your improvements to the video pages.  IVC 9000 is the company's model number, so [[IVC 2 inch Helical scan]] is more of the of a format description, than just the VTR model number. Such as [[1/4 inch Akai]] is the format more than "VTS" which is the Akai's model number for it's 1/4 inch Akai format. When only one company makes the format it is some time not clear what the "format title is" IVC made more 1 inch VTRs than 2 inch. Later I would like to see (and well likely make) a page for there 1 inch VTRs.  [[IVC 2 inch Helical scan]] now has it's own page, no redirect page is needed.
*I also have worked on many VTRs, (I wrote the starter page for 1/4 inch Akai), but I have not heard nor can find any info on the the 1/8 Kumi Kater. The other unit with no page is the VK (1977), I found a picture on the web[http://www.labguysworld.com/VTR-Museum_001.htm] with the model numbers: VT-300 1/2" VK Format Video Cassette Portapack and VT-350 1/2" VK Format Video Cassette Portapack. But with no text information on these units.
Telecine Guy 04:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Update the VT-350 1/2" VK Format is an Akai, format. [http://www.labguysworld.com/Akai_VT-300.htm]
[http://www.labguysworld.com/Akai_VT-350.htm] [http://www.totalrewind.org/portable/Q_VT300_main.htm] Telecine Guy 04:37, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

**About the IVC article, no problem, my pleasure.  I suggested making a redirect previously for IVC 2" helical to IVC's main article, due to the former article ([[IVC 2 inch Helical scan]]) being a red link at the time, not being writen.  Thanks for doing so, and thanks also for the info you added to the [[1" type B videotape]] article too, interesting that there were so many modifications of that format....! :)   About the VK format, I could write up an article for that as well, but you can too if you feel inclined to do so... [[User:Misternuvistor|misternuvistor]] 00:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

== DCT ==

Ampex's DCT VTR really ought to be on this list (and probably should have an article) since it was the first compressed digital videotape format. It was [[Discrete cosine transform|DCT]] compressed [[4:2:2]] on 19mm tape. And yeah, they really managed to trademark the name "DCT" for it. I can't recall if it was before or after D3.  Since I worked on the project, it wouldn't be right for me to edit this myself. -- [[User:Cjensen|Cjensen]] 05:03, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
: I could add it to the template, I feel that it should be there also, considering the format's historical significance.  (On a side note, I remember reading on the web back around 1997 that Warner Bros. chose to use DCT for the mastering of some of its first DVD releases back then...) [[User:Misternuvistor|misternuvistor]] ([[User talk:Misternuvistor|talk]]) 08:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:: Done, as well as done writing an [[DCT (videocassette format)|article]] for the format as well. [[User:Misternuvistor|misternuvistor]] ([[User talk:Misternuvistor|talk]]) 09:51, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

== Vaporware formats ==

A number of the future digital optical disk formats listed here appear to be either [[vaporware]], dead, or inappropriate in a list of video media. These include:
* [[Fluorescent Multilayer Disc]] (prototype demonstrated at 2000 Comdex was a hoax, and the parent company died)
* [[Digital Multilayer Disk]] (was supposed to be released in 2006, based on FMD technology - nothing forthcoming)
* [[Holographic Versatile Disc]] (no news since 2006)
* [[Protein-coated disc]] (same deal: this was supposed to come out in mid-2007)
* [[Tapestry Media]] (web site suggests this isn't designed for video playback anyway)
* [[PH-DVD]] (I can't even find a corporate web site for this one, and there's been nothing since a few 2006 press releases)
* [[Stacked Volumetric Optical Disk]] (way too early to consider this a media format)
* [[3D optical data storage]] (again, too early to be considered a format - at best, this is a technology)
* [[Advanced Video Codec High Definition]] (this is a codec; MiniDVD, which AVCHD can be stored on, is a media format)
Just to be clear, I'm not advocating the deletion of these articles - simply their removal from the template. This template doesn't need to list every single proposed media format, especially when there's strong evidence that a number of them will never appear on the market [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sub>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sub> 03:49, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

: As nobody's responded, I'll go ahead and delist these formats. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sub>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sub> 01:27, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

== Proposed rename ==

Can we rename this template to "Video formats" or somesuch? It is hardly specific to home video and it feels odd to put <nowiki>{{Video storage formats}}</nowiki> on pages about professional formats that no normal person has at home... [[User:Jhawkinson|jhawkinson]] ([[User talk:Jhawkinson|talk]]) 14:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

*I agree and have been [[WP:BOLD|bold]]. [[User:Sardanaphalus|Sardanaphalus]] ([[User talk:Sardanaphalus|talk]]) 08:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
** Make sure to fix double redirects when you move pages. (I cleaned up {{tl|homevideo}} and {{tl|homevid}}.) [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sub>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sub> 10:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
*** Duly noted. Apologies and thanks. [[User:Sardanaphalus|Sardanaphalus]] ([[User talk:Sardanaphalus|talk]]) 10:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

== trial columns format ==

This seems to take up more space and is harder for me to read. I liked the older version. Other opinions? [[User:Jhawkinson|jhawkinson]] ([[User talk:Jhawkinson|talk]]) 05:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

: I've gone ahead and reverted this. Ouch, that was kind of a pain in the neck, though, even with M-x query-replace-regexp. I'm sorry if you put a lot of effort into it. My reasoning is that the "trial" format takes up a lot more space and I find it harder to read, and I figured two weeks was sufficient discussion time. If this '''does''' come back, though, we should definitely make a template so that editing it is less painful. [[User:Jhawkinson|jhawkinson]] ([[User talk:Jhawkinson|talk]]) 21:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

We should, however, bring back the alternating colors of rows. Why isn't that in the Navbox template? [[User:Jhawkinson|jhawkinson]] ([[User talk:Jhawkinson|talk]]) 07:01, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

== VERA 1952, Quadraplex 1956? ==
Why is VERA listed as 1952 when development began in 1952 but wasn't completed until 1958 and yet Quadraplex is listed as 1956 (when it was finished) even though it started in 1952 also? Laserdisc is under 1978 (when DiscoVision came out) and not 1958 when development started. At least be consistent. I would suggest that date of development is much harder to quantify and less useful as a reference. DVD should probably be moved to 1997 also, as that's when players and media came out.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bollinger|Bollinger]] ([[User talk:Bollinger|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bollinger|contribs]]) 16:47, 19 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== CBHD/CH-DVD ==

Shouldn't these be on the list of digital video disc formats? If CVD, EVD, and HVD are on there, [[CBHD]] certainly deserves a place. [[Special:Contributions/66.149.58.8|66.149.58.8]] ([[User talk:66.149.58.8|talk]]) 22:26, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok, no answer, so I formally propose the following change:

{{tlx|editsemiprotected}}

Change:

[[Versatile Multilayer Disc|VMD]]      <small>(2006)</small>{{·}}
[[HD DVD]]                             <small>(2006)</small>{{·}}
[[Blu-ray Disc]]                       <small>(2006)</small>

To:

[[Versatile Multilayer Disc|VMD]]      <small>(2006)</small>{{·}}
[[HD DVD]]                             <small>(2006)</small>{{·}}
[[Blu-ray Disc]]                       <small>(2006)</small>{{·}}
[[CBHD]]                               <small>(2008)</small>

--[[Special:Contributions/66.149.58.8|66.149.58.8]] ([[User talk:66.149.58.8|talk]]) 01:04, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Done as page is now unlocked.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/208.152.231.254|208.152.231.254]] ([[User talk:208.152.231.254|talk]]) 15:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== VHS HD ==

I noticed that somebody edited in a new entry in this template for "VHS HD"?  AFAIK, there is no official format called "VHS HD" (according to a Google search I did, which proved inconclusive.  The only thing that came close was an article on a 1080p upscaling VHS & DVD combo player from Panasonic).  There's W-VHS and D-VHS, which are both capable of HD, but those are already in the template.   So, if no one has any objections, I'm going to revert that edit.  Plus, said edit has a tag on it for "excessive whitespace", FWIW... [[User:Misternuvistor|misternuvistor]] ([[User talk:Misternuvistor|talk]]) 07:55, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Do anyone here remember Philips 12"video disc"The Doomsday Map"Circa 1978 colinshorey@gmail.com  cheers  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Colinshorey|Colinshorey]] ([[User talk:Colinshorey|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Colinshorey|contribs]]) 20:59, 17 March 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->