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== Thanks ==

Just wanted to say thanks for remembering me. Good to see that you've been a very productive wikipedian. [[User:Soham321|Soham321]] ([[User talk:Soham321|talk]]) 15:16, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

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== Unbelievable ==

After spending time in the discussion above which ended in the rationale to keep, this happens: [[Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2016_September_9#File:Clip_breeding-foaling-A_Celebration_of_Horses.webmhd.webm]].  <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 15:11, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
:Please note that the discussion above is informal at best, and is in no way a binding, community decision.  Also, it concerns [[WP:NFCC#1]], and not [[WP:NFCC#3b]] and [[WP:NFCC#8]] (which I believe the file may not satisfy).  Best, [[User talk:Fastily|<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS';color:Indigo;font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-size:120%;">F</span><span style="font-size:90%;">ASTILY</span></span>]] 23:13, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
::{{u|Fastily}}, I strongly disagree.  The clip meets all 10 criteria set forth by [[WP:FU]]. If that clip could have been uploaded any other way, I would have uploaded it at Commons where I have an active account. The fact that WP does accommodate fair use media in situations like this one and because it was media that would be useful to a specific article, there was no valid reason to not upload it, especially in light of its encyclopedic value.  Editors who have a basic knowledge about breeding stallions, and what all it entails, including the longterm value of a multimillion dollar stallion like Sultan's Great Day and his influence as a stallion on an entire breed of horses, well...I never imagined there would be any controversy at all over the clip.  It makes as much sense to me as denying a rare FU racing clip of [[Secretariat (horse)|Secretariat]] because his article is about the horse not racing. smh  I think it's sad and very frustrating that our time is being wasted this way.  Wishing you a happy day. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 01:55, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
:::{{tps}} I don't think that Fastily is saying that the file definitely fails 3b and 8, just that it should be discussed, and that 1 is now irrelevant, which indeed it is. That's because the guidelines are different for FFD than they are for CSD. --[[User:Tryptofish|Tryptofish]] ([[User talk:Tryptofish|talk]]) 19:38, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
::::Ohhhhh, the acronyms...not to mention all the details in our countless guidelines [[File:SMirC-crazy.svg|20px|%Þ]]....but I'm pretty sure I get your point which is "discussion" first. I'd rather be spending my time expanding the article considering the word count, window of opportunity and other criteria for DYK-N but thank you for your input, {{u|Tryptofish}}. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 16:14, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::FFD=Files for discussion=[[WP:FFD]], CSD=Candidates for speedy deletion=[[WP:CSD]], OMG, tl;dr! --[[User:Tryptofish|Tryptofish]] ([[User talk:Tryptofish|talk]]) 00:04, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::Anyway, it looks like a sure-fire k-e-e-p. --[[User:Tryptofish|Tryptofish]] ([[User talk:Tryptofish|talk]]) 00:07, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
::::::I was kidding about the acronyms.  I figured FFD wasn't connected to flower delivery, and actually knew tl;dr quite well because editors frequently begin their responses to me with it. [[File:SMirC-chuckle.svg|20px|^_^]]  Have you ever seen ntl;nm?  Annnyway, it does look like a keep - plop, plop, fizz, fizz, oh what a relief it is. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 02:57, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

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== Images ==

Hi.  I'm not sure if you know about this but there is a discussion going on at Wikipedia talk:Conflict of interest regarding self-promotion of images that might interest you.  I would like to point out to anyone reading this that it is no way any sort of accusation whatsoever.  I am simply mentioning it because I know that Atsme has a general interest in photography and videos on here. <span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:red; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">DrChrissy</span> <sup><span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:red; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">[[User talk:DrChrissy|(talk)]]</span></sup> 20:05, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks, {{u|DrChrissy}} - it actually is a topic of interest to me and many other users at Commons and en.Wikipedia.  Feedback and learning the opinions of others is a good thing. [[File:SMirC-thumbsup.svg|20px|yes]] <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 01:53, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

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== Sultan's Great Day ==

Thanks for pinging me about [[Sultan's Great Day]] the other time. I haven't been on in a while, life is more busy.
Is there anything I can do to help? [[User:Horsegeek|<font color="66600">Horsegeek</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Horsegeek|<font color="teal">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 18:52, 14 September 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek
:Hi, {{u|Horsegeek}} - actually there are a couple of discussions taking place right now - one of which I initiated on Montanabw's TP, and one that DrChrissy mentioned above in another discussion regarding media uploads and whether or not a COI exists.  I think the COI concerns regarding media uploads are overreaching and actually conflict with image use policy in that there are certain things copyright holders are required to include in order to avoid copyvios that may involve a license under CC-BY-SA, the latter of which appears to be misunderstood from time to time. If public domain and SA licensing aren't gigantic hurdles in and of themselves, add the ambiguity of the [[WP:FU]] guideline which may create more disruption than it avoids.  I shudder whenever there's a push for more bureaucracy but isn't that typical in our little Utopian community where everything is supposed to be free. [[File:SMirC-wasntI.svg|20px|8-°]]  As things stand now, we're doing all we can just to maneuver through the mine fields of Commons, never mind en.Wikipedia's <nowiki>{{keep local}}</nowiki> uploads.  Expressing my views strictly from the position of an editor whose primary focus is to enhance the reading/viewing experience, I tend to lean toward allowing more media uploads with fewer restrictions that do more harm than good.  Anyway, the two discussions I mentioned are not RfCs, so it's safe to encourage participation from our Project Equine members and anyone else who has an interest. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 20:23, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

== What goes around... ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | ...comes around. With the "what" being the fact that I'm going to have that image on my talk page beyond the death of humanity itself, when only the barren expanses of the empty internet remain. But I'll let crazy pig man speak for himself. [[User:Colonel Wilhelm Klink|Colonel Wilhelm Klink]] (<sup>[[User talk:Colonel Wilhelm Klink|Complaints]]</sup>&#124;<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Colonel_Wilhelm_Klink|Mistakes]]</sub>) 01:31, 30 August 2016 (UTC) <small>Seriously though, I'm glad you enjoyed my <s>depository of failed amateur comedy</s> user page.</small>
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:{{u|Colonel Wilhelm Klink}}, I don't trust that the internet will be here in recognizable form in the future, so I printed & framed your crazy pig man and hung it on the wall.  Our little pot bellied pig gazes upon it dreamily every day.  [[File:SMirC-chuckle.svg|20px|^_^]] <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 15:13, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
::I hope your pig gets many hours of enjoyment from it (because God knows nobody else will). Now the only thing left to do is invite [[Cosmo Kramer|Kramer]] over to your house. ("Jerry! It's the pig man!") :) [[User:Colonel Wilhelm Klink|Colonel Wilhelm Klink]] (<sup>[[User talk:Colonel Wilhelm Klink|Complaints]]</sup>&#124;<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Colonel_Wilhelm_Klink|Mistakes]]</sub>) 18:11, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

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== Comment ==
Thanks for the comment, wasn't aware of [[WP:BLUE]]. That didn't seem like common knowledge, but I'm not familiar with the subject. Figured it would help if an expert could add some verification given the way that was written. [[User:South Nashua|South Nashua]] ([[User talk:South Nashua|talk]]) 21:31, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

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== FYI ==

You helped with some editing earlier, so FYI:  [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Secretariat (horse)/archive1]]. [[User:Montanabw|<span style="color:#006600;">Montanabw</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 20:36, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

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== Taking you up on your offer ==

Hi Atsme, You made an offer to copyedit/review WPSCUBA articles on the project page, and I would like to get [[Underwater diving]] to GA. If you are still up for it, I would appreciate either recommendations or a review if you think the article is ready. Copyedits also always welcome of course. Cheers, &bull; &bull; &bull; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]: 09:29, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
:Hi, {{u|Pbsouthwood}} - I'm happy to help.  I just did a speed read and recommend that you (1) respond to the {{cn}} tags, (2) check for dead links, and (3) make sure the citations follow a uniform style regarding dates, etc.  Consider making the "See also" section a collapsible list.  Once you get that done, make it a [[WP:GAN]] and let me know.  I'll be happy to review it. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 16:12, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
::I have provided references where tagged, or removed unciteable claims, found two dead links and tagged them. There is not really anything in the see also section, so I don't understand your suggestion. I also don't understand your point about the dates in the citations, could you explain? Cheers, &bull; &bull; &bull; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]: 19:05, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
:::Hi, {{u|Pbsouthwood|Peter}} - I saw where you were working on citations - aren't they fun?!! [[File:SMirC-dunno.svg|20px|:-S]]  My reference to dates in citations: maintain consistency; either go with day|month|year, or month|day|year with text or number format.  Example - if you go with 21 September 2014 all dates must have the month in text in the citation.  At the article, see footnote 47 vs 49, 50, & 51.  Go ahead and nominate for GA and since I've already started some of the review, I'll run with it. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 20:04, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
::::Hi {{u|Atsme}}, I have changed all dates in references to dd Month yyyy format, as most were already using it and it is one which is not easily confused. It is possible I may have missed something - let me know. Fun is probably not the first word that springs to mind when trying to sort out citations, particularly those with dead links and bare urls. I console myself with the alternative concepts of "useful" and "necessary". I have also nominated under Miscellaneous, as it really does not fit into any of the other categories. Over to you. Cheers, &bull; &bull; &bull; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]: 12:21, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::{{u|Pbsouthwood|Peter}}, which of the following subtopics do you think best fits the topic: Physics and Astronomy or Sports and recreation?  Oh, and I was happy to see that you worked through the COI allegation without incident.  There is currently a discussion about that very topic at [[Wikipedia_talk:Conflict_of_interest]].  When I saw where the article had been tagged, I used the diff as an example in the ongoing discussion there, and wanted you to know. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 14:00, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
::::::It is more a matter of which fits least badly. At least some of diving is done as a sport or recreation. It is influenced by physics to much the same extent than anything real is affected by physics. The choice is inadequate, but on the other hand, it doesn't really matter, does it? Diving articles have been listed before under sports and recreation and under biology and medicine, so I wouldn't object to sports and recreation, though a very significant part is industrial, scientific and military. Cheers, &bull; &bull; &bull; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]: 14:34, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
::::::I don't remember a COI allegation. When was this? Cheers, &bull; &bull; &bull; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]: 15:16, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::::See [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Underwater_diving&diff=prev&oldid=664559159 in May 2015], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Underwater_diving&diff=665310780&oldid=664559159 June 2015], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Underwater_diving&diff=next&oldid=739281326 September 2016]. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 16:34, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
::::::::Now I recall. A false alarm really. I don't think the alleged COI editor ever edited the article. The recent one wasn't so much a COI allegation as a suspected linkspam, which was easily cleared up. Minor issues. Cheers, &bull; &bull; &bull; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]: 18:59, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

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== hi can you help with [[Murder of Riley Ann Sawyers]] ? ==

I think the page needs attention that i can't give it. I can already see several uses of "Sawyer's" which is for someone surnamed "Sawyer", not "Sawyers". Can you please give the article some care and attention if someone hasn't already? [[User:Paul Benjamin Austin|Paul Benjamin Austin]] ([[User talk:Paul Benjamin Austin|talk]]) 08:39, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
:Hi, {{u|Paul Benjamin Austin}} - I fixed the incorrect plural possessives.  Didn't see any other glaring grammatical errors but will check again later. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 13:58, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

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== December 2016 at Women in Red ==

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== I have unreviewed a page you curated ==

Hi, I'm Kudpung. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, [[Saskia Lettmaier]], and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on [[User_talk:Kudpung|my talk page]]. Thank you. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 16:27, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

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== New Page Review - newsletter #2 ==

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;<big>'''Please help reduce the [[Special:NewPagesFeed|New Page backlog]] '''</big>

This is our second request. The backlog is still growing. Your help is needed now - just a few minutes each day.

;<big>'''Getting the tools we need'''</big> 
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== New page reviewer granted ==

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Hello Atsme. Your account has been added to the "<code>{{int:Group-patroller}}</code>" user group, allowing you to review new pages and mark them as [[meta:Help:Patrolled edit|patrolled]], tag them for maintenance issues, or in some cases, tag them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the  [[Special:NewPagesFeed|New Pages Feed]]. New page reviewing is a vital function for policing the quality of the encylopedia, if you have not already done so, you '''must''' read the new tutorial at [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol|New Pages Review]], the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the various [[WP:Deletion|deletion criteria]]. If you  need more help or wish to discuss the process, please join or start a thread at [[Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers|'''page reviewer talk''']]. {{pb}}
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*Remember that quality is quintessential to good patrolling. Take your time to patrol each article, there is no rush. Use the message feature and offer basic advice. 
{{pb}}The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In case of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, the right can be revoked at any time by an administrator. <!-- Template:New Page Reviewer granted --> [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 03:53, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

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== New Page Review - newsletter ==

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Hello {{BASEPAGENAME}},[[File:Wikipedia New page reviewer.svg|right|120px]]

;<big>'''Breaking the back of the backlog'''</big>

We now have {{NUMBERINGROUP:patroller}} New Page Reviewers! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog. Now it's time for action.<br> [[File:NPP_backlog_01_October_2016.png|thumb|250px|right|Mid July to 01 Oct 2016]]
If each reviewer does '''only 10 reviews a day''' over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing '''only 2 or 3 reviews a day''' - that's about 5 minutes work!<br>
Let's get that over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.

;<big>'''Second set of eyes'''</big>
Not only are ''New Page Reviewers'' the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work. Read about it at the new [[WP:NPP#Monitoring the system|'''Monitoring the system''']] section in the tutorial.

;<big>'''Getting the tools we need''' - 2016 WMF Wishlist Survey: Please vote</big>
With some tweaks to their look, and some additional features,  ''Page Curation'' and ''New Pages Feed'' could easily be the best tools for patrollers and reviewers. We've listed most of what what we need at the 2016 WMF Wishlist Survey. '''Voting starts on 28 November''' - please turn out to make our bid the Foundation's top priority. Please help also by improving or commenting on our Wishlist entry at the [[:m:2016 Community Wishlist Survey/Categories/Moderation tools#New pages Feed/Page Curation|'''''Community Wishlist Survey''''']]. Many other important user suggestions are listed at [[Wikipedia:Page Curation/Suggested improvements|at Page Curation]].
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== January 2017 at Women in Red ==

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== YGM ==

{{You've got mail}} --[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 15:44, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
:FYI, [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAAAS&type=revision&diff=757593504&oldid=757593041] --[[User:JustBerry|JustBerry]] ([[User talk:JustBerry|talk]]) 15:45, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

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== Muhammad Ali ==

Hi Atsme, could I get some feedback or assistance from you on how to convert [[Muhammad Ali]] into a GA article? Please note that there are some regulars who have been contributing to this article, and if you decide to get involved personally, it might help if you comment on the talk page of this article. Thank you. [[User:Soham321|Soham321]] ([[User talk:Soham321|talk]]) 00:06, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

and a very merry christmas and happy new year to you. [[User:Soham321|Soham321]] ([[User talk:Soham321|talk]]) 00:15, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
:Hi {{u|Soham321}}, I'm happy to help.  Will give it a look tomorrow.  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you, too!!  May your holidays be filled with many blessings! <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 02:02, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

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== Hey ==

Do you have the free time to mentor a user?[[User:Serialjoepsycho|-Serialjoepsycho-]] ([[User talk:Serialjoepsycho|talk]]) 12:31, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
:Sure! <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 17:56, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
::Margaretver is a Nigerian. They are wanting to expand Nigerian related content and improve it and help others improve it. Nigeria's official language is English and they are trying to help others do so. When you speak with them you will find out more. In 2012 or so 25% or so of Nigeria had the internet. [[Internet.org]] is trying to expand it there. [[Wikipedia Zero]] is also attempting to help. So if this user can get help acclimating to wikipedia this is a really great thing.[[User:Serialjoepsycho|-Serialjoepsycho-]] ([[User talk:Serialjoepsycho|talk]]) 20:29, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
:::Oh, good - I know English pretty well. 😄  Happy to help.  <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 20:52, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Margaretver}} I'd like to introduce you to Atsme. She has brought a number of articles to Good article quality and she has helped a number to featured article status. These are two of the highest quality standards on wikipedia. She is also a very active user. She has benefited from mentor program on here and she was the first name that I thought of to help you out. It has been a pleasure conversing with you and I wish you the best of luck in your future Wikipedia endeavors. Atsme thanks so much for stepping up. Hopefully we can all get some great work done.[[User:Serialjoepsycho|-Serialjoepsycho-]] ([[User talk:Serialjoepsycho|talk]]) 00:09, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello Atsme Thanks for agreeing to mentor me, i don't know if one month falls under new but if it does call me new lol. I really don't know where to start but i really love everything about Wikipedia personally and i have a passion for editing, adding articles even reviewing pages once in a while. lol. BTW am Margaret :D  [[User:Margaretver|Margaretver]] ([[User talk:Margaretver|talk]]) 00:27, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

:Hi, {{u|Margaretver}} - welcome aboard.  Enthusiasm is a great motivator!  Thank you, {{u|Serialjoepsycho}} for your consideration and the kindness you've shown.  Ok, I'll start with some basic tips:  
* If you want to create articles, I suggest starting them in your Sandbox so I can help you along the way.   
* If you want to volunteer as a copy editor and fix punctuation and/or grammatical errors, just edit those articles directly.  
* If you see something you believe requires a major change, make a suggestion on the talk page of the article first, especially if the article has a [[Wikipedia:Good articles|GA]] or [[WP:Featured Article|FA symbol]] at the top of the page.
* Leave your biases at login and evaluate your proposed changes from a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]], avoiding undue weight regardless of whether it leans negative or positive.
* When you cite a source, be sure to follow the [[WP:CITE|citation guidelines]] and maintain consistency in how you cite the sources throughout the article.
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So wait, all I have to do is disappear for a while and everyone becomes friends? Atsme and SerialJoePsycho? Next thing you know Jytdog and I will be chums! Hehe. Sending love to you all from my little hiding place... And happy 2017!!!  '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px  #B8B8B8;">[[User:Petrarchan47|<font color="#A0A0A0">petrarchan47</font>]][[User talk:Petrarchan47|<font color="deeppink">คุ</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Petrarchan47|<font color="orangered">ก</font>]]</span>''' 19:38, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
:Hey stranger! You back editing? <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 01:59, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

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== New Page Review - newsletter No.2 ==

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Hello {{BASEPAGENAME}},[[File:Wikipedia New page reviewer.svg|right|120px]]
;<big>A '''HUGE''' backlog</big> 	
We now have {{NUMBERINGROUP:patroller}} New Page Reviewers!<br> 
Most of us requested the user right at [[WP:PERM|PERM]], expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.
[[File:New_Pages_backlog_2016_-5_Feb_2017.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Hitting {{red|17,000}} soon]]
The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. '''Only 20 reviews a day''' by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing '''only 2 or 3 reviews a day''' - that's about 5 minutes work!<br>
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to  {{red|70,000}}.  
;<big>'''Second set of eyes'''</big>
Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten. 	
;Abuse
This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering  [[Orangemoody]],  and 
#[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=762820989#Kavdiamanju_and_unconfessed_paid_advertising this very recent case] of paid advertising by  a Reviewer resulting  in  a community [[WP:BAN|ban]].
#[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=758687308#Proposal_to_ban_FoCuSandLeArN_due_to_undisclosed_paid_editing this case in January] of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting  in  a community [[WP:BAN|ban]].
#[[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Scorpion293/Archive|This Reviewer]] is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.
===Coordinator election===
[[user:Kudpung|Kudpung]] is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Coordination#New Page Review Coordinators|NPR Coordinators]]; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.
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== Hey, would you consider making any comment? ==

Hey Atsme,

Do you recall me from montanabw's page, an introduction. I've been working on bucking bull pages. She asked if you could join in any rodeo pages if necessary as it might come up and you said sure...so this came up. Having trouble finding people to comment. No one from wikiproject agriculture responded. I'm trying to get the Bull Riding Hall of Fame to be part of this notability page. Of course, an editor rejected it saying she wants consensus. Could you look and see if you can add anything? Don't feel obligated, though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(sports)#Rodeo_-_Bull_Riding_Hall_of_Fame_notability_in_question

Thanks, [[User:dawnleelynn|<font color="800000"><i>dawnleelynn</i></font>]]<sup>[[User talk:dawnleelynn|(talk)]]</sup> 23:34, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

:Thank you very much. Great facet of bull riding that you pointed out. I hadn't thought of but is very important! :) [[User:dawnleelynn|<font color="800000"><i>dawnleelynn</i></font>]]<sup>[[User talk:dawnleelynn|(talk)]]</sup> 16:32, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

== Atsme Message ==

Good morning Atsme,

The Portugal Golden Visa page is something that should absolutely be a part of wikipedia. It offers a lot of value to the people who are interested in any international retirement topic and discussion. 

I followed the policy by looking around to see if there was a current page for it and there was nothing.

Please re-consider the deletion process of Portugal Golden Visa.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Toxicarbon|Toxicarbon]] ([[User talk:Toxicarbon#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Toxicarbon|contribs]]) 18:51, 10 February 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:{{u|Toxicargon}}, It doesn't warrant its own article.  Try adding it as a section to [[Portugal]]. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 20:18, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

== Speedely Deleted Ayşe Çınar's Page ==

Hi I want to create a page for Ayse Cınar because of the couple of reasons. First of all, she has performed in different shows since 1997. In her first album, she has worked with different European singers such as Monica Molina who is a popular Spanish singer. Secondly, she is going to perform for a global movie sountracks and TV series in Turkey. She will be very very popular soon, her first song has watched more than 140.000, as well as her song is playing in national radios everyday. You may enjoy her songs :) by the way.
I assure you about her importance with the links that you can see below; but to be sure please inform me about how can i present the data about her importancy. 

References:
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ayse-cinardan-album-40144019
https://twitter.com/aysecnrofficial
aysecinar.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlNpxCXnAJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oErXmNch960
https://itunes.apple.com/tr/artist/ayse-c-nar/id778005789
http://www.kralmuzik.com.tr/kral-tv/haberler/ayse-cinarin-ilk-albumu-deniz-gibi-sev
http://www.dokuzeylulgazetesi.com/haber/ayse-cinarin-ilk-albumu-deniz-gibi-sev-hersey-hayal-etmekle-basladi--31781.html
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ayse-cinardan-album-40144019
http://www.omedyam.com/ayse-cinarin-ilk-albumu-deniz-gibi-sev-hersey-hayal-etmekle-basladi-53226/
http://www.karar.com/hayat-haberleri/esinin-hediyesiyle-album-cikardi-179916
https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/Ay%C5%9Fe-%C3%87%C4%B1nar/Deniz-Gibi-Sev
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/deniz-gibi-sev/id1108024109
http://mp3indirsek.net/?muzik=ayse+cinar
https://play.spotify.com/artist/0Vb1rxkNnNVvXsSjnOWISy?play=true
http://www.dr.com.tr/Yazar/ayse-cinar/s=260805
http://www.gazeteyenigun.com.tr/ayse-cinar-in-monica-molina-surprizi/154884/
http://www.hepsiburada.com/ayse-cinar-deniz-gibi-sev-pm-HB000001DCAO
http://aysecinar.com/
https://www.izlesene.com/video/ayse-cinar-kalbimin-caresi/9700355
http://www.milliyet.com.tr/bodrum-da-ayse-cinar-monica-magazin-2303338/
http://muzrad.com/ayse-cinar-roportaj/
https://eksisozluk.com/ayse-cinar--5147842
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::[[User_talk:Benimarkadaşım]] when she becomes notable and you can cite multiple independent reliable sources that substantiate her notability per [[Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles]], then try submitting an article then. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 20:36, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

== Hiya! ==

I [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User%3AAtsme&type=revision&diff=764776146&oldid=755170742 edited your userpage]. Please forgive me. &#40;&#40;&#40;[[User:The Quixotic Potato|The Quixotic Potato]]&#41;&#41;&#41; ([[User talk:The Quixotic Potato|talk]])  21:38, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
:Hey {{u|The Quixotic Potato}} - nothing for me to forgive, but to THANK.  After 8 hours of studying this puter screen, my eyesight begins to fail.  At the 8th hour, the il lli and iilll combos starting running together...things start getting shaky...I start seeing double...the end result is doubles at Happy Hour. 🍻 Cheers! <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 22:13, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

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== تحياتنا  ==

تحياتنا  [[User:نورالدين بالحاج|نورالدين بالحاج]] ([[User talk:نورالدين بالحاج|talk]]) 11:26, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
:تحياتي لك. لماذا أنا مدين تحية لديك؟ أنا لا أتكلم العربية، ويجب أن تعتمد على ترجمة جوجل. هل تتحدث الانجليزية؟ <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 16:04, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

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FYI.  I stole some of your ideas on your user page [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User%3ADavid_Tornheim&type=revision&diff=769010969&oldid=768982777 here].  If you would like credit, I can add your name... :)  --[[User:David Tornheim|David Tornheim]] ([[User talk:David Tornheim|talk]]) 01:40, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
:Hi there, David! No problem at all - that box is just a standard Wiki help box.  Lordy, I don't even remember where I found it - I think on one of the WP help pages so knock yourself out.  <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 01:46, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

== Trolling ==

[https://www.wsj.com/articles/were-all-internet-trolls-sometimes-1488718803?mod=e2tw Interesting article] - wondering how Wikipedia can apply it in a positive way...<sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 01:32, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
:I only read the very beginning, because I did not go behind the paywall, so I'm likely to be missing a lot. But I would draw a distinction between actual ''trolling'', in which someone ''intends'' to cause disruption because they find it amusing, and ''incivility'', which happens when someone simply says something that they will later regret. I think the real problem at Wikipedia is the latter: witness how [[WP:CIVIL]] has essentially become unenforceable. (Further reading: [[WP:Griefing]].) --[[User:Tryptofish|Tryptofish]] ([[User talk:Tryptofish|talk]]) 20:44, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
::Poop!  Sorry about that {{u|Tryptofish|Tryp}}.  It wasn't a paywall when I first read it.  Ok, so I Googled it in another browser, and came up with [http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/technology/were-all-internet-trolls-sometimes/news-story/5d119806d698a229d9ee6eb5be28b3e9 a link] that has no paywall.  It was actually a controlled experiment by Stanford and Cornell researchers who ''established that together, mood and exposure to trolling can make a person twice as likely to troll.''  And then it covers a few of the existing features & algorithms in use, such as the one Twitter deployed in February.  It's a feature that, ''for about a 12-hour period, blocks the tweets of an abusive user, as determined by Twitter’s algorithms, from being seen by anyone but the harasser’s followers. More recently, Twitter has taken steps to identify accounts that were obviously spawned to harass others.''  It's an interesting read. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 00:11, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the new link. I read the whole article, and found it very interesting. In particular, I'm interested that a person's posts can be influenced by their mood, which in turn, is influenced by other posts that they read. That's true, and it happens all the time on-wiki. And it isn't limited to trolling. It happens as well with what I said above, about civility. Post an angry comment to another user, or revert with a grouchy edit summary, and one is likely to get an unpleasant response, which can then snowball when that response irritates someone else. Happens all the time, and is doubtless at the root of many of Wikipedia's problems. --[[User:Tryptofish|Tryptofish]] ([[User talk:Tryptofish|talk]]) 22:26, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

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== Colorado Museum of Natural History speedy ==
{{Moved discussion to|1=Talk:Colorado Museum of Natural History#Colorado_Museum_of_Natural_History_speedy |2=Wrong venue.}}
I removed the tag because I think this is exactly what a disambiguation page is. The name is used to refer to the CU museum, and the name appears extensively in Westen US dino taxonomy literature. It is quite possible for someone to come across the term and search for it. Then, where do they go? This page lets them pick. I started a talk page discussion. --[[Special:Contributions/2601:648:8503:4467:9BF:D17C:52A3:91AF|2601:648:8503:4467:9BF:D17C:52A3:91AF]] ([[User talk:2601:648:8503:4467:9BF:D17C:52A3:91AF|talk]]) 05:32, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
:{{u|2601:648:8503:4467:9BF:D17C:52A3:91AF}} I moved this discussion to the proper venue. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 17:54, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

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== Article Wylie Gustafson ==

Hi Atsme!
One of the articles that ended up in our temporary holding category Rodeo performers (general) was this article: [[Wylie Gustafson]]. I'm now going through these categories that didn't seem easy to place at first and am trying to resolve them. This one just became clear to me. I think this man might be in your purview. montanabw says you have a background in cutting horses and this man is a 2005 & 2008 NCHA Western National Finals Top Ten Open Finalist. Also, he has appeared at the Gold Coast Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, during the Wrangler National Finals Rodeo (2008, 2009). The reason his article was created was for yodeling though, but the rodeo background still deserves some secondary attention I believe. Your name was not in the history section, so didn't think you were already aware of it. If you decide he belongs with horse categories and wikiprojects, you can remove our category and let me know? Thanks in advance. Hope you are well. [[User:dawnleelynn|<font color="800000"><i>dawnleelynn</i></font>]]<sup>[[User talk:dawnleelynn|(talk)]]</sup> 20:35, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi me again. I see you have this one under control. Should I remove the category Rodeo performers (other) from it too? [[Louis Pearce Jr.]] The only connection I see is the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo. Should he be in a rodeo category because of his service to this rodeo organization? Thoughts? Thanks!  [[User:dawnleelynn|<font color="800000"><i>dawnleelynn</i></font>]]<sup>[[User talk:dawnleelynn|(talk)]]</sup> 22:43, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

:Hi, {{u|dawnleelynn}} - I looked up [http://www.nchacutting.com/members/rider-horse-earnings Wylie's earnings]: WYLIE GUSTAFSON [# 67037-01] from CONRAD,MT and he has a Life membership, and status as a Non-Pro (2017). Lifetime NCHA Earnings $123,713.02.  I also found the following [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:SqIYDRcWwEcJ:archive.nchacutting.com/western/2007dailychatter/0506dcweb.pdf+&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=safari cached article] which may help.  Adding a Cutting category is justified, but I'm not sure about rodeo.  Was he the entertainment at the rodeos or was he a contestant in the roping, bronc riding, bull riding, etc?  If he consistently performed at rodeos, like a rodeo announcer or entertainer, then he belongs in the rodeo category (other). What we don't want to do is confuse cutting horse events and breed horse shows & livestock shows that are held in conjunction with a rodeo as a "rodeo event".    I agree with you on Louis - he made a major impact on Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo and loved every minute of it. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 00:01, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

:: Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Regarding Gustafson: I did some searching regarding him. If you look at the External Links on his article and go to his web site, to the Biography page, you'll find a reference to roping. I put it here for your convenience. https://www.wyliewebsite.com/press/biography/ It's the last item: "Champion team roper at 1998 Reba McEntire/Ben Johnson Celebrity Rodeo." Taken alone, that might not be much. But I also found this web site of his ranch that mentions roping too. "He is a participant in local ranch roping contests. In his younger days he was a competitive team roper." https://www.crossthreequarterhorses.com/. By the way, on that biography page link, there are quite a number of cutting horse awards that could be added to his article. I'm going to add the roping content to his article with citation, and drop the Rodeo performer (other) category and add the Roping (rodeo) category to the article. I believe we will both have a stake in the article going forward. You, for the cutting horse content, and me for the rodeo content. Although, I don't see it changing much, just need to keep an eye on it mostly. If this is agreeable to you, naturally. 

::Now, regarding Pearce. It seems we are in agreement here too. He will remain in the Rodeo performers (other) category for now. He will definitely stay a rodeo category for his contribution to the Houston Fat Show. LOL. I will discuss with montanabw the remaining members of the category once I have gone through them all. The ones I could not find a new home for will be a matter of discussion we will have. Or they may just stay there. I don't know yet... but thanks for your help. I may dig through and see if I can find anything more on him rodeowise as well. Let me know if I missed anything. Talk to you later. [[User:dawnleelynn|<font color="800000"><i>dawnleelynn</i></font>]]<sup>[[User talk:dawnleelynn|(talk)]]</sup> 03:25, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

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== Gandhi comment at the Lyall talk page ==

An aside, to follow on from yours about Gandhi at the Lyall talk page - see [http://www.maintitles.net/forum/discussion/341/quite-possibly-the-worst-pun-ever/ this], which has been doing the rounds for years. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 08:34, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
:{{yo|Sitush}} 😂 I had to bookmark that one. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 15:41, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

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== Wild Horse ==

Hi!
I was wondering if you could review the article Wild Horse. It would be cool if you could take some time to review it; however, it is totally cool if you are not able to, for any reason. Thank you very much in advance. :)[[User:Adityavagarwal|Adityavagarwal]] ([[User talk:Adityavagarwal|talk]]) 03:18, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
:Hi, {{u|Adityavagarwal}} - sure, give me a day to get to it. <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 03:48, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
::Thank you very much. :) [[User:Adityavagarwal|Adityavagarwal]] ([[User talk:Adityavagarwal|talk]]) 16:27, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
:::FYI - {{u|Adityavagarwal}}, I will be doing some copy editing at that article.  I'm slow. [[File:SMirC-wink.svg|x20px|;-)]] <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 20:15, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
::::Wow, you will? That would take up quite a lot of your time. However, you can take as much time as you want. I am in no hurry. It is really cool that you are investing so much of your time in modifying the article before reviewing it. Please let me know if there is anything I could reduce to improve it further. Again, Thank You very much. :) [[User:Adityavagarwal|Adityavagarwal]] ([[User talk:Adityavagarwal|talk]]) 20:43, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
::::::{{u|Adityavagarwal}}, perhaps I misunderstood your expectations.  I saw the tag and assumed you wanted copy editing.  If your intention is to nominate it for a [[WP:GA]] I can't do the copy edit and be the GA reviewer.  Are you just wanting peer review?  If so, my first response is that it needs copy editing. [[File:SMirC-wink.svg|x20px|;-)]] <sup>[[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme</span>]][[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 22:36, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
{{od}}That article is nowhere close to GA quality and really is more of an overview to direct people to the different "wild" horses they may be searching for on WP...  creating it settled a really nasty edit dispute about 8 years ago (I think for the horse GAN) and the battle still has me twitchy... I've said more at the talkpage of the article.  [[User:Montanabw|<span style="color:#006600;">Montanabw</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 03:31, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
: Actually while editing it, I thought about the same. Also, it talked about different types of wild horses (as you pointed out, which I noticed too) which did not seem particularly an article to be named "Wild Horse". Also, I apologize for my late response, as I was busy packing my things and could not log on (I did not know I would find any notifications, distinct from what I normally receive). If I knew there were some such issues, I would check it out earlier. Also, Thank you very much for letting me know about it. :D [[User:Adityavagarwal|Adityavagarwal]] ([[User talk:Adityavagarwal|talk]]) 17:04, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi! actually, there was no copy edit template when I asked you to review. I saw it just today. Even though the template might have been put before my previous comment and after my request for review; however, I saw it just now. :P Yeah, you cannot review and be a major contributor of the article, both at the same time. I, in fact, asked for a review and not for the copy edit (as I said earlier, there was no such template earlier) :P. Anyways, I withdrew it from the GAN, and also thank you very much for all your time and effort! :) [[User:Adityavagarwal|Adityavagarwal]] ([[User talk:Adityavagarwal|talk]]) 17:04, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

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