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== G5 ?? ==
Hello Bearian, it seems that you have removed G5 CSD tag from [[Education in Aruba]] article and left me a message {{TQ|I think this should be kept as a valid stub}}. Since you declined the CSD, so you have the [[WP:BURDEN|burden]] to find reliable third party sources. Or I have to nominate it for Afd. Remember reasons like "I think this should be kept..."  are [[WP:ILIKEIT|not valid]]. The current condition is very bad with no sources and it still qualifies for deletion. I encourage you to find mulitiple reliable sources to avoid the deletion. Nothing else, thanks for understanding & have a nice day.  {{P|:)|size=25px}}  '''[[User talk:Jim Carter - Public|<span style="color:#000000">Jim</span> <span style="color:#FF0000">Carter</span> <span style="color:#FFCC00">(''from public cyber'')</span>]]''' 10:24, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
:No problem, I'll work on it in the next 7 days.  If I don't get to it, or I can;t find anything, go ahead. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 15:49, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
::Actually I have a week brain and I generally forget things quickly. Just give me a ping if you can't find anything. Cheers,  '''[[User talk:Jim Carter - Public|<span style="color:#000000">Jim</span> <span style="color:#FF0000">Carter</span> <span style="color:#FFCC00">(''from public cyber'')</span>]]''' 16:57, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
:::I found all there is to say at [[Aruba#Education]], so I [[WP:BOLD|was bold]] and I [[WP:CHEAP|redirected it as an easy way out]].  Now, you have two choices: (a) let it stand as is, or (b) tag it for speedy deletion as a newly created redirect. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 17:12, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
::::(a) is good. Just it will leave a blue link on my [[User:Jim Carter - Public/CSD log]] hehehehe {{P|:D|size=25px}}. Good job!  '''[[User talk:Jim Carter - Public|<span style="color:#000000">Jim</span> <span style="color:#FF0000">Carter</span> <span style="color:#FFCC00">(''from public cyber'')</span>]]''' 17:37, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
:::::Another similar article please [[Stockholm (film)|see]].   '''[[User talk:Jim Carter - Public|<span style="color:#000000">Jim</span> <span style="color:#FF0000">Carter</span> <span style="color:#FFCC00">(''from public cyber'')</span>]]''' 18:07, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
::::::It seems you have forgot to add your signature while closing [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cyclomethane|this]] Afd. Regards,   '''[[User talk:Jim Carter - Public|<span style="color:#000000">Jim</span> <span style="color:#FF0000">Carter</span> <span style="color:#FFCC00">(''from public cyber'')</span>]]''' 19:02, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

== Deletion of [[Cyclomethane]] ==
Hello, I wanted to point out to you that despite people believing the article was a hoax, the term does actually appear (albeit rarely) in some literature, see [http://books.google.com/books?id=QfgMAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA86&lpg=PA86&dq=cyclomethane&source=bl&ots=SYBveK-e2h&sig=tLVGkDJRGFv4m6JXFiiTw5tPTk0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=KPDbU7nFLs2fyATXj4FA&ved=0CDAQ6AEwBDgK#v=onepage&q=cyclomethane&f=false], for example. The "ring" is actually a lone pair. Likewise, "cycloethane" would basically be synonymous with ethene. Perhaps the subject doesn't deserve an article outright, but at least should be redirected to the CH4 page. [[User:Fryedk|Fryedk]] ([[User talk:Fryedk|talk]]) 20:05, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
:I also wrote in so many words that, even if not a hoax, it is not notable.  I would not oppose a permanent redirect to [[ethene]]. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 17:03, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

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== Middle way ==
Could you please explain [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Middle_way&curid=204668&diff=619882814&oldid=609211410 this] edit. [[User:JimRenge|JimRenge]] ([[User talk:JimRenge|talk]]) 23:12, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

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== Thanks ==

Thanks for both things and yes kittens are awesome. Anyway the personal info was known because the people who did that go to my school [[User:Jackninja5|Jackninja5]] ([[User talk:Jackninja5|talk]]) 08:41, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

== Talkback ==
{{talkback|Gdfusion}} --[[User:Gdfusion|gdfusion]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Gdfusion|talk]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Gdfusion|contrib]]) 18:56, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

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==Your review of page protection==
Hi Bearian; Last week you had reviewed an Admin only page protection request which I had requested for the Wikipedia page. The request was granted on my promise to start an RFC for the issue of one editor involved in a content dispute with 4-5 other editors in consensus. Now someone has foreshortened the RFC (closing it before its completion) by noticing that the issue focused on only one editor involved in a content dispute with 4-5 editors. Could you re-open the RFC so that it can run to completion (2-3 days left on full Page protection which was granted). The other option is to possibly draw a conclusion from the editors who did manage to state their opinions already. The general opinion seemed to be to either ask for an extension of the full Page protection for more time, or, other editors have requested that a topic ban on User:Chealer to possibly be granted. Otherwise, the 5 editors who are in consensus on the Talk page there would need more time on full page protection to try to reason further with the single opposing editor. Could you click over to the [[Talk:Wikipedia]] to view it. [[User:LawrencePrincipe|LawrencePrincipe]] ([[User talk:LawrencePrincipe|talk]]) 01:58, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about this case, and I don't want to say, "No."  Please ask another admin for help. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 15:39, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks, and I appreciate your carefulness in this matter. User:Evergreen Fir has now joined the discussion and expressed distress about Talk:Wikipedia. Could you contact that editor to indicate that this is being done as part of the discussion here on this Talk page and elsewhere. User:Evergreen apparently did not know that I was the editor who requested the original page protection (which expired Tuesday), and that 4 editors including Admin:Eustress have tried to get constructive Talk discussion going with User:Che... with no success for 4 weeks. Without knowing any of this, User:Evergreen also foreshortened the RFC which I had promised to start there when I originally asked for Page protection. Any counsel to User:Evergreen Fir would be appreciated. [[User:LawrencePrincipe|LawrencePrincipe]] ([[User talk:LawrencePrincipe|talk]]) 01:16, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

== [[:WP:HEY]] ==

Hi, Bearian! I noticed that you recently made a "Keep per [[:WP:HEY]]" comment at an AfD. I believe the essay that link refers to, The Heymann Standard, needs some improvement. Could you please see my suggestion at [[:Wikipedia talk:The Heymann Standard]], and respond if you feel so inclined? Thanks.--[[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) 16:48, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
:Maybe later, can this wait? [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 16:53, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
::Absolutely! The essay has been around for years, there's no rush! --[[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) 17:23, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

== Rich gal ==
Hi. What about [[Mouna Ayoub]]? Regards. --[[User:Why should I have a User Name?|Why should I have a User Name?]] ([[User talk:Why should I have a User Name?|talk]]) 23:23, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
:If a rich person attracts significant media attention, they could be notable; see [[WP:42]] and [[WP:GNG]].  There are literally hundreds of BLPs on English Wikipedia for those who are [[famous for being famous]] - [[debutante]]s, [[reality show]] winners, [[YouTube celebrities]], deposed royalty, former members of the [[House of Lords]], my talentless [[reprobate]] distant cousin [[Lindsey Lohan]], wild animal hunter [[Donald Trump, Jr.]], and even [[perennial candidate]]s for President of the United States who were indicted for crimes of stupidity.  It's not my desire -- it's [[WP:CCC|consensus]]  - and to fight it would be [[tilting at windmills]]. In the case you mentioned, probably she would be kept at AfD, but go ahead and nominate her. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 14:58, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you. I can't. In the meantime sources were added. My curiosity served for some development in that article. Nice to meet you. --[[User:Why should I have a User Name?|Why should I have a User Name?]] ([[User talk:Why should I have a User Name?|talk]]) 15:01, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
:::As the article now convincingly demonstrates, she is clearly [[WP:Notable]] for many reasons.  The article is amply sourced.  <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">[[User:7&amp;6=thirteen|<b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b>]] ([[User talk:7&amp;6=thirteen|<b style="color:#000">☎</b>]])</span> 15:17, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

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== Your inappropriate protection of [[Trial of Oscar Pistorius]] ==

It was inappropriate of you to protect the article [[Trial of Oscar Pistorius]], which is owned by User:HelenOnline.  

This is an important article which is currently being kept in a false state, which has major legal implications for Wikipedia.

It was my suggestion for HelenOnline to recuse herself from editing, since she has scared away all other editors from the article, and is primarily responsible for the article being in a false state.

In order to avoid major legal implications for Wikipedia, you are best advised to remove the protection so that it can be amended to be an accurate article, which is not the case at present.

Alternatively, if you do wish it to be kept in a false state, it is a good idea for a template to be added to the front so that it states that it is owned by HelenOnline and all legal inquiries can be directed to her.  [[Special:Contributions/123.2.223.96|123.2.223.96]] ([[User talk:123.2.223.96|talk]]) 01:59, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
:FYI [[Wikipedia:ANI#IP_harassment_of_editor]] --[[User:NeilN|<b style="color:navy">Neil<span style="color:red">N</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:NeilN|<i style="color:blue">talk to me</i>]]</sup> 02:22, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
::FYI [[WP:OWN]]. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 13:32, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
::P.S. [[Wikipedia:No legal threats]]. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 13:47, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

== i sent you an email  ==

on your hotmail account.

please reply to me there.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/32.214.201.66|32.214.201.66]] ([[User talk:32.214.201.66|talk]]) 16:13, 15 August 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I did not get anything about Wikipedia, so I can't respond.  I did get two spam emails regarding Bulgaria and Thailand, so if you sent those, I am going to disregard this request to communicate.  If you have questions, please post them here. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 17:29, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

== A beer for you! ==

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== A barnstar for you! ==

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:Thank you, kindly. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 13:09, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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== Archiving ==

Hi, Bearian, my recollection is you know the technical ins and outs of archiving. If you look at my talk page, you'll see that the first two sections are very old. Not too long ago I noticed that they weren't archiving, and I assumed it was because they hadn't been signed (and timestamped). So, I spent far too much time going through the page history and signed them. They're still not archiving. Why?

I vaguely remember this happening once before quite some time ago, and my "system" worked, but even assuming my memory is correct, there've been a lot of bot issues since then, and I don't know if the bot being used on my talk page is the same as the one before or, even if it is, if the algorithms are the same.

Any light you can shed on this would be great.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 14:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

:{{tps}} Hi {{u|Bbb23}}, the timestamps weren't in the correct format. One was missing a comma and the other was missing a digit. I've gone ahead and fixed it, hope you don't mind and hopefully it'll get archived now. <span style="border:2px solid grey;">'''&nbsp;[[User:NQ|<span style="color:black;">NQ</span>]]&nbsp;'''</span>[[User talk:NQ|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green;"> talk</span>]] 15:34, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
::{{ping|NQ}} mind? I think it's great that you took the time to look at it and fix it. Thanks!--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 15:59, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

==Thank you!==
Thank your for my first Barnstar!  It is truly greatly appreciated.  I do apologize, my user page is somewhat less surreal now.  I shall strive for some level of surrealism on it in the future.

I am still likely going to AfD [[Hubertus, Hereditary Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha]], It's been deleted for non-notability on the German Wikipedia, and while I'm generally an inclusionist, I don't consider people who are essentially distant descendants of former royalty to be inherently notable, and given that he's not considered notable in Germany, I can't see why he should be considered notable here.  While I am aware that he is, very distantly, in the line of succession to the English throne, many people even in the top 50 of that line don't have an article.  I would absolutely appreciate your participation in that AfD when I get around to officially suggesting it.  [[User:XeroxKleenex|XeroxKleenex]] ([[User talk:XeroxKleenex|talk]]) 15:21, 24 August 2014 (UTC)


==Definition of Politician==
Hi.  This is Mokiecoke.  Recently you changed the lead paragraph of [[List of American State and Local Politicians convicted of Crimes]]. You specified that chiefs of staff be included as ‘politicians’.   Unfortunately, editors [[Collect]] and [[Hmains]] reverted your edit.  

This article has always taken the word ‘politician’ to mean all elected officials, their appointees, such as (judges, secretaries, committee chairmen) and their direct staffs, which would include (staff chiefs, press secretaries, finance directors, lawyers, advisors and others). Politicians such as governors make hundreds of appointments.  The president has even more.  See [[List of positions filled by presidential appointment with Senate confirmation]].

I believe that elected [[politician]]s should be held as responsible for their appointments as they are for their decisions and that all of these people should be considered ‘politicians’ in that they are “someone who is involved in influencing public policy and decision making” as defined by wiktionary.org.  Can you imagine an article about convicted politicians in which [[W. Bush]] was listed without his Advisor Lewis Libby?  [[Nixon]] without AG John Mitchell or [[Reagan]] without Secretary Casper Weinberger?  

In this election year, Collect/Hmains/Hairhorn seem to have noted the large number of Republican listings.  By restricting the definition of politicians to ‘elected officials’ the number of Republicans falls dramatically and things like Watergate, Iran-Contra  and Lawyergate completely disappear from the list.  

At [[Talk: List of American state and local politicians convicted of crimes]] you will see a section entitled [[Definition of Politician]] which directs you to a long debate at [[Talk: List of American federal politicians convicted of crimes]] though it is clouded by sock puppets.  Hairhorn claims that the dictionary definition is too broad because it means “everyone in government is a politician.” I disagree, because not every politician in government was appointed or hired and not every politician is [[Notable]], such as [[Fawn Hall]].

For all the discussion, none of these editors have suggested a more workable definition than the dictionary definition currently in use, which they are trying to change without consensus.   If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.  I note that you are an administrator so, I leave it to you to revert Collect/Hmains/Hairhorn’s edit of you and/or come up with better parameters. Thank you. [[User:Mokiecoke|Mokiecoke]] ([[User talk:Mokiecoke|talk]]) 20:59, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

== Page Deletion: Canada National Quidditch Team ==

Hello,

You put on the notice of the Canada National Quidditch Team a deletion tag that went uncontested. I would like to contest that deletion now and would like to prove to you that there are numerous sources (from Vancity Buzz, the Guardian, National Post, the Vancouver Sun and others) that the national Canadian team for quidditch does exist and is notable.  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Danachos|Danachos]] ([[User talk:Danachos|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Danachos|contribs]]) 01:53, 29 August 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Did you read the notice about the Wikibreak on top of this page?  That's why it's taken almost 2 weeks to get back to you.  Also, I proposed deletion on this stub almost 3 months ago.  It's far too late to contest the deletion at this time.  However, if you wish, it can be "userfied" so you can work on it more. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 13:08, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

== About [[WP:RFA]] ==
Hi '''Bearian'''! Can you please tell me how can I apply for [[WP:RFA]]. Cheers! [[User:Alexandar Nicole|Alexandar Nicole]] ([[User talk:Alexandar Nicole|talk]]) 18:06, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
:Just go and do it yourself, or get a popular and active user to nominate you. I am neither popular around here due to my admin actions, nor I am very active since I have been been busy "off-wiki". Please read my standards at [[User:Bearian/Standards#WP:RFA_standards]] to see if I'd support you. Again, I'm not sure you'd want to have me nominate you, as my bad reputation might sink you. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 13:04, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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==ANB discussion==
There is a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive265#Move War at History of the Jews in Nepal, and RFC review]] that concerns you because you were recently involved with one or more of the related [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of the Jews in Nepal]], [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2014 June 30]] ([[History of the Jews in Nepal]]), [[Talk:History of the Jews in Nepal#RfC: Should we change article name to 'Judaism in Nepal'?]]. Thank you, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] ([[User talk:IZAK|talk]]) 07:44, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

== Page Deletion : FRIMO (16:59, 23 January 2014) (No explanation of significance ) ==

Hello,
some time ago you deleted the created page FRIMO because of the missing explanation of significance  of this company.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lhadameck/FRIMO

I had included several sources from press releases across the web to prove the notability of this company. 

What can i improve at the site to publish it to  en.wikipedia ?  <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lhadameck|Lhadameck]] ([[User talk:Lhadameck|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lhadameck|contribs]]) 06:51, 12 September 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Request for comment ==

Hi,

Greetings from India, This is (an informal) request for coment at [[Talk:Legal_education#Applied_legal_education]]. Since I am not aware of US legal education nuances about nomenclature and system about "Applied_legal_education" I suppose you can help us by providing apropriate info in improving Law related articles for related aspects.

I belive your inputs will be very valuable and waiting for you comment


Thanking you and warm regards

[[User:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] ([[User talk:Mahitgar|talk]]) 08:18, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

== [[Joseph Llambias Clatworthy]] ==

A month ago you PROD2-ed this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been [[WP:REFUND#Joseph Llambias Clatworthy|requested at WP:REFUND]], so per [[WP:DEL#Proposed deletion]] I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Regards, [[User:JohnCD|JohnCD]] ([[User talk:JohnCD|talk]]) 17:06, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

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== Question regarding those pageant contestant articles ==

As you presented an argument for keeping such articles at the AFDs I commented on, I wanted to open a discussion with you about that issue. I've been thinking a lot about those articles, particularly given the accusations of bad-faith hurled at the nominator by people !voting "keep"--yourself excluded, as I didn't see you do that. Perhaps away from the whoop and whorl of the main discussion, you can give me your view on this issue: after much reading of (some very dry) policy pages, it seems to me that these type of articles likely violate [[WP:BLP1E]]. What are your thoughts on that? '''[[User:Lithistman|LHM]]'''<sup>''[[User talk:Lithistman|ask me a question]]''</sup> 17:55, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
:[[WP:BLP1E]] does ''not'' state that because a person is only famous for winning an single award or title, they are not notable.  Rather, it discusses situations when:
# a person is unknown outside of that one day's event: "sources cover the person only in the context of a single event," or
# the person is otherwise utterly insignificant: "that person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual[,]" or
# what they did was unimportant in that event, or wasn't noticed: "the individual's role was either not substantial or not well documented".
:People may be famous for one thing they did - such as a crime (see [[John Hinckley, Jr.]]) - or a beauty queen, being elected once as [[Mayor of Albany, New York]], or the oldest man from Japan.  BLP1E states that a person can be notable even for one thing they did, if "the single event he was associated with ... was significant and his role was both substantial and well documented." [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 19:42, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
:*The way I see it, many of these articles (though not all) fit ''perfectly'' in #1. Many of these contestants have little fame outside the pageant in which they competed. To me, it seems very similar to reality show contestants in things like American Idol or America's Got Talent. Do ''some'' of those contestants become notable outside the competition? Sure. But many do not. As such, their articles redirect to the main competition. I'm not really seeing much difference between the two cases. '''[[User:Lithistman|LHM]]'''<sup>''[[User talk:Lithistman|ask me a question]]''</sup> 19:49, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
:::Subjectivity - "The way I see it" - doesn't matter, neither in [[contract law]] nor on Wikipedia.  What we use is an objective, [[reasonable person standard]], or if you will, community [[consensus]] and [[norms]].  The key guideline is [[WP:42]]: has a person gotten [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage over more than just one day]] in multiple [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], to be considered [[WP:GNG|generally notable]]?  Almost all '''major''' beauty contestants not only win on one day, but represent the nation, [[Ball culture|house]], or pageant throughout the following year in charitable and other public events.  Miss Americas, Empresses of drag balls (see [[Panzi]]), and Miss Universes are often highlighted in the media, whether for the fashion ''[[faux pas]]'', their relationships, their charitable efforts, their reality show or TV [[cameo appearance]]s, or even as a [[Grand Marshall]] of a famous parade; they become [[famous for being famous]] - 'democratically elected royalty for life'.  The other winners of lesser known contests (Miss Supranational, Miss Fire Island, Sugar Bowl Queen) just don't get the same kind of media attention, often for good reasons that discretion would be leave out. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 20:07, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
::::(Thanks for the replies, BTW!) Everyone is subjective in their policy interpretation in cases like these. I don't hold that mine is sacrosanct--it's not. That's why I used the qualifier "the way I see it", to indicate "this is how I understand the policy." On to the more salient portion of what you wrote. I very carefully stated that many but not all such contestants would be non-notable per BLP1E. I have no concerns regarding the ''winners'' of such contests--without doubt, they will receive enough non-event related coverage to be notable. It's when one gets past the winners, further and further down the results table, that one runs into real questions of notability. '''[[User:Lithistman|LHM]]'''<sup>''[[User talk:Lithistman|ask me a question]]''</sup> 20:17, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
:::::Oh, yes, I would agree with you on the runners-up and [[Miss congeniality]] winners. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 20:26, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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== RFA ==

I'm thinking about running for adminship, and I was hoping you could either, at some point, nominate me or tell me why you don't think you should (preferably the former). [[User:Jinkinson|<span style="color:red;">Jinkinson</span>]] [[User talk:Jinkinson|<span style="color:blue;">talk to me</span>]] 00:29, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
:Well, yes, you appear to pass [[User:Bearian/Standards#WP:RFA_standards]], so I'd support your nomination.  However, I'm so busy off-wiki that I couldn't mentor you properly. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian#top|talk]]) 12:59, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
: {{tps}} Whether you meet personal standards or not, the minute you have to ''ask'' someone to nominate you, it's a negative.  The most successful and most positive candidates are those who were ''approached'' to see if they were interested :-)  <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User talk:EatsShootsAndLeaves|<span style="color:#ffffff;background:black;"> the panda </span><span style="color:#000000;background:white;"> ɛˢˡ”</span>]]</span></small> 13:20, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

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