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== [[Mars landing|Mars landing locations]] ==
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:{{reply|Nrco0e}} Wow! - Thank you *very much* for *The Space Barnstar* - It's *greatly* appreciated - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 13:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

== "[[2020 American self-coup attempt]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect [[:2020 American self-coup attempt]]. The discussion will occur at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 16#2020 American self-coup attempt]] until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> [[Special:Contributions/86.23.109.101|86.23.109.101]] ([[User talk:86.23.109.101|talk]]) 13:03, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

== "[[Tabby's Star|Tabby's Star plot]]" ==
Dennis, I'd like your thoughts on an updated WTF plot ( [[:File:KIC 8462852 dip minima 2965x1900 72dpi.jpg]] ) which I have just uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, and perhaps to replace our current "linear" plot ??? And I'm not taking all the credit for myself -- both you and User:Renerpho have made significant contributions !!! But I think the bottom line is that this plot will "add more fuel to the fire" as reflecting an apparent periodicity !!! So feel free to post if you think OK -- you can do in 15 minutes what would take me 6 hours !!! [[User:Synchronist|Synchronist]] ([[User talk:Synchronist|talk]]) 05:37, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
=== and not to mention ===
And not to mention that this plot will put the focus where it needs to be: on October 2021 !!! [[User:Synchronist|Synchronist]] ([[User talk:Synchronist|talk]]) 06:04, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{reply|Synchronist}} and others - Thank you for your comments - and recent efforts with your [[:File:KIC 8462852 dip minima 2965x1900 72dpi.jpg|noted graph]] - interesting - seems *entirely* ok with me at the moment - Thanks again - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 15:13, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

:: Dennis, I've realized that I forgot to cite Gary Sacco (Sacco 2017) in respect to a possible October 2021 event, so will be updating the .jpg today. [[User:Synchronist|Synchronist]] ([[User talk:Synchronist|talk]]) 17:43, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

::: OK, I've added a corrected .png version of the file to Wikimedia Commons ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:KIC_8462852_dip_minima_2965x1900_72dpi.png ), but haven't yet deleted the .jpg version. Also, I've invited Renerpho to have a look, at to post to the Tabby's Star article if he thinks OK. And thanks for your own favorable review!!! [[User:Synchronist|Synchronist]] ([[User talk:Synchronist|talk]]) 19:23, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

=="[[Rainbow on Mars]]" – "[[Lens flare|Lens Flare]]"==
[[File:MarsPerseveranceRover-Rainbow-20210404.png|thumb|right|100px|"[[Lens flare|Lens Flare]]" on [[Mars]]]]
[[File:Tęcza w Górach Kruczych(Sudety Środkowe)Aw58.jpg|thumb|right|100px|This just in from the Venusian homeworld]]
Thank you for uploading the rainbow on Mars image. Am looking at it as similar to ''[[Earthrise]]'' and ''[[The Blue Marble]]'' in terms of humans connecting with another world through the unexpected familiar. With just a little more information (water vapour?) and a couple of sources this photo should have its own page (would suggest the title "Rainbow on Mars" unless NASA names it). [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 02:14, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
:{{reply|Randy Kryn}} Hello Randy - Thank you for your comments - and suggestion - yes - *entirely* agree - a "[[Rainbow on Mars]]" article seems indicated - however - I'm a bit busy with a number of other projects at the moment - but - Thanks again for your comments and all - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 02:38, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
::{{done}}, I put up a redirect to the rover but will work up a stub if a couple sources appear (haven't looked as yet). [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 02:45, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
::::Looks like NASA now saying it's a lens flare and not a rainbow (haven't read the twitter message NASA supposedly put up). Is there no gold at the end of this rainbow? Good while it lasted though, I guess it was very widely discussed and reported as a rainbow. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 02:57, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
{{reply|Randy Kryn}} Thank you *very much* for your recent comments - yes - seems official<ref name="NASA-20210407">{{cite news |author=NASAPersevere |title=Twitter Tweet: Rainbow On Mars - No, A Lens Flare |url=https://twitter.com/NASAPersevere/status/1379536046338154498 |date=7 April 2021 |work=[[NASA]] |accessdate=7 April 2021 }}</ref><ref name="SPC-20210407">{{cite news |last=Wall |first=Mike |title=No, the Perseverance rover didn't spot a rainbow on Mars |url=https://www.space.com/perseverance-rover-mars-rainbow-photo |date=7 April 2021 |work=[[Space.com]] |accessdate=7 April 2021 }}</ref> - the "[[Rainbow on Mars]]" is just a "lens flare" apparently - guess we'll have to wait for a real one (NASA claims it may not be possible on Mars; although seemingly possible on [[Titan (moon)|Titan]], a moon of [[Saturn]])<ref name="NASA-20210407" /><ref name="NASA-20050225">{{cite web |author=Science@NASA |title=Rainbows on Titan |url=https://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/25feb_titan2.htm |date=25 February 2005 |work=[[NASA]] |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080921112813/http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/25feb_titan2.htm |archive-date=25 November 2008 |access-date=7 April 2021 }}</ref> - clean-up of the "[[Rainbow on Mars]]" edits seems indicated of course - in any case - Thanks again for your comments and all - yes - good while it lasted - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 13:46, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
:Will release the new song "Somewhere, over the lens flair". Fun while it lasted though. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 14:00, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
:Thanks for putting up the [[lens flare]] link, went there and added the image. An actual notable lens flair, so maybe a well-sourced article (Rainbow on Mars, now in quotes) could survive in main space. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 02:23, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
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== "Film: ''[[Infinity Chamber]]''" ==
The original Chamber article was a festering blob of copyvio; once that was removed, it was a single sentence.

If you can write something legitimate, go ahead. [[User:DragonflySixtyseven|DS]] ([[User talk:DragonflySixtyseven|talk]]) 02:00, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
:{{reply|DragonflySixtyseven}} Thank you - created the ''[[Infinity Chamber]]'' article - at least for starters - Thanks again - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 13:10, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
::The 'Somnio' article pertained to an American company which did not meet notability requirements; there's no problem with using it as a redirect. [[User:DragonflySixtyseven|DS]] ([[User talk:DragonflySixtyseven|talk]]) 17:26, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

== "[[Abiogenesis]]" ==

You have removed a paragraph on scientific criticism of the current hypotheses on abiogenesis. The reason you gave was that the paragraph was not sufficiently supported by sources. Since half of the paragraph is a verbatim quote, I would ask you to read the source cited before deleting it and to seek dialogue first.
Thanks and best regards  [[User:Joe Sloppy|Joe Sloppy]] ([[User_talk:Joe Sloppy|talk]]) ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Joe_Sloppy contribs]) 11:11, 4 May 2021‎ (UTC)
:Thank you for your comments re the [[Abiogenesis]] article - added => '''"[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Abiogenesis&type=revision&diff=1021379659&oldid=1021373544 Rv undiscussed edits - as before - please discuss this first on the talk-page for] [[WP:CONSENSUS]] - per [[WP:BRD]], [[WP:CITE]], [[WP:NOR]] & related - thanks."''' - seems agreement first by other editors for this significant edit addition would be helpful at the moment - please understand that this is a standard procedure for some significant edits similar to your own - in any case - Thanks again for your comments - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 12:12, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

I am not convinced by the practice that is applied here. I have asked several times for you to specify your problems with the section. What exactly is it? Is the citation insufficient? If so, I would ask you to explain this in more detail, since, as I said, it is mainly a verbatim quotation from a book publication from the Springer Verlag (https://www.springer.com/gp).
The talk page says: "It is against Wikipedia policy for views without scientific support, such as all known objections to abiogenesis, to be included in a science article like Abiogenesis." 
Does this also apply to scientific critical receptions of hypotheses of abiogenesis?
Best regards,
Joe [[User:Joe Sloppy|Joe Sloppy]] ([[User_talk:Joe Sloppy|talk]]) ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Joe_Sloppy contribs]) 10:37, 5 May 2021‎ (UTC) 

:{{reply|Joe Sloppy}} - Thank you for your comments - Please see my reply comments on the "[[Abiogenesis]]" talk-page at the following link => "[[Talk:Abiogenesis#Criticism on abiogenesis]]" - Thanks - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 13:39, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

== "[[Escape mutation]]" redirects ==
We have an article on [[Antigenic escape]], which is the correct target for those redirects. Maybe you could add a short section on SARS-CoV-2? [[User:Fences and windows|<span style="background-color:white; color:red;">Fences</span>]]<span style="background-color:white; color:#808080;">&amp;</span>[[User talk:Fences and windows|<span style="background-color:white; color:black;">Windows</span>]] 23:20, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
:{{done}} {{reply|Fences and windows}} Thank you for your comments - and suggestions - added (for now at least) => { {also|Variants of SARS-CoV-2}} to the "[[Antigenic escape]]" page and { {also|Antigenic escape|Escape mutation}} to the "[[Variants of SARS-CoV-2]]" page - hope this helps in some way - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 23:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

== "[[User:Drbogdan/ScienceFacts|ScienceFacts]]" ==
In [[User:Drbogdan/ScienceFacts]], it says, Insight, Curiosity, and Perseverance are currently operating on Mars. But what about the Ingenuity helicopter? [[User:StarshipSLS|StarshipSLS]] ([[User Talk:StarshipSLS|Talk]]), ([[Special:Contributions/StarshipSLS|My Contributions]]) 18:49, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
:{{done}} {{reply|StarshipSLS}} Thank you *very much* for your comments - and suggesting including the "[[Ingenuity (helicopter)|''Ingenuity'' helicopter]]" on Mars to the "[[User:Drbogdan/ScienceFacts]]" template - no problem whatsoever - updated the template, and all now should be ok  - please let me know if otherwise of course - Thanks again for your help with this - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 19:55, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
::@[[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]]: You welcome. [[User:StarshipSLS|StarshipSLS]] ([[User Talk:StarshipSLS|Talk]]), ([[Special:Contributions/StarshipSLS|My Contributions]]) 20:37, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

=="[[:File:PIA17936-f2-MarsCuriosityRover-EarthMoon-20140131.jpg|Mars image]] of 'moon in June (or at least May)'"==
[[File:PIA17936-f2-MarsCuriosityRover-EarthMoon-20140131.jpg|thumb|right|300px|<div style="text-align:center">The [[Earth]] and [[Moon]] viewed from [[Mars]]</div>]]
Hi, and thanks again for all of the good work at the Mars 2020 pages. Came across an upload of yours and, being personally noncomputertechsavvy enough to do it myself, am wondering if it's possible to uppercase 'Moon' [[:File:PIA17936-f2-MarsCuriosityRover-EarthMoon-20140131.jpg|on this NASA graphic]] (where NASA gets it wrong again). Just to keep Wikipedia consistency on uppercasing proper astronomical names. Thanks, and [[Ingenuity (helicopter)|happy flights]]. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 02:43, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
:{{done}} {{reply|Randy Kryn}} Hello Randy - Thank You for your comments - and suggestion - yes - seems NASA could have presented [[:File:PIA17936-f2-MarsCuriosityRover-EarthMoon-20140131.jpg|this image]] better with "Moon" (instead of "moon") - after all => ''"Capitalize “Moon” when referring to Earth’s Moon"'' (from the [https://history.nasa.gov/styleguide.html NASA Style Guide]) - to be clear, this was originally from NASA at => https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/figures/PIA17936_fig2.jpg - nonetheless - I tried to adjust [[:File:PIA17936-f2-MarsCuriosityRover-EarthMoon-20140131.jpg|the image]] with "M" - may not be a perfect effort (somewhat new to this), but maybe an improvement - hope this helps in some way - in any case - Thanks again - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 13:20, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
::Wow, nice work. I can't begin to imagine how to do coding things like that. The Moon shines anew in the Martian sky. I don't know why sources like ''Scientific American'' still lowercase names like 'moon' and 'sun' (not very scientific, and maybe not even American!). [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 17:22, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
:::{{reply|Randy Kryn}} Thanks for your comments - used an oldie (but goodie) program ("PaintShop Pro v6.02") - ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaintShop_Pro ) => brushed-out the old "m" on the image after detecting background color with the "dropper" tool - then used "text" tool (set for "M" using "white" color and "Arial" font) - on the resulting image - then oriented the new "M" font on the image - saved new image file - and then uploaded the new image file to Commons as usual - hope this helps - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 17:55, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
::::All Greek to me (a term of cultural appropriation, fine me ten Wikipedia dollars). I've never even uploaded an image here. Thanks again, the finished image looks good. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 00:02, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

== "[[Origin of COVID-19]]" ==
'''NOTE: Current related discussion at "[[WP:RSN]]" => "[[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 344#Lab Leak Again]]"<br />'''
Related recent references<ref name="WP-20210525">{{cite news |last=Kessler |first=Glenn |title=Timeline: How the Wuhan lab-leak theory suddenly became credible |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/25/timeline-how-wuhan-lab-leak-theory-suddenly-became-credible |date=25 May 2021 |work=[[The Washington Post]] |accessdate=25 May 2021 }}</ref><ref name="WSJ-20210524">{{cite news |last1=Page |first1=Jeremy |last2=McKay |first2=Betsy |last3=Hinshaw |first3=Drew |title=The Wuhan Lab Leak Question: A Disused Chinese Mine Takes Center Stage - It isn’t the predominant hypothesis for Covid’s origins, yet prominent scientists are calling for a deeper probe and clearer answers from Beijing |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/wuhan-lab-leak-question-chinese-mine-covid-pandemic-11621871125 |date=24 May 2021 |work=[[The Wall Street Journal]] |accessdate=25 May 2021 }}</ref> re the possible "[[Origin of COVID-19|origin of the Covid-19 virus]]", including my own related published NYT comments (6 July 2020)<ref name="NYT-20200706">{{cite news |last=Bogdan |first=Dennis |authorlink=User:Drbogdan |title=Comment: USA: COVID-19 Pandemic Response Could Have Been Better? |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/opinion/covid-19-trump.html#permid=107996566 |date=6 July 2020 |work=[[The New York Times]] |accessdate=25 May 2021 }}</ref> - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 13:53, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
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== "''[[Ingenuity (helicopter)|Ingenuity]]'' - date of 6th flight" ==
Hello Drbogdan, can you support me getting the correct UTC date of the sixth ingenuity flight? I'm a little concerned that nobody is supporting me. Are my arguments not comprehensible? --[[User:Schrauber5|Schrauber5]] ([[User talk:Schrauber5|talk]]) 12:46, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
:{{reply|Schrauber5}} - Thank you for your comments - and question - seems a "[[WP:Reliable source]]" supporting the correct UTC dating may be best afaik at the moment - hope this helps in some way - in any case - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 13:31, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
:: I agree that a reliable source would be the cleanest way to resolved it. But even if there is a NASA publication of the correct date (which is already there, see date given at https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/HNM_0091_0675019235_723ECM_N0060001HELI04636_0000A0J ) there are 20 reliable newspapers still having May 22. My question was, if you find my arguments comprehesible? I'm wondering if the missing support is based on nobody is interessed in having the correct UTC date or nobody agrees with the correct date being May 23 UTC or even that shifting to UTC date and time is original research. --14:31, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Schrauber5}} - My thinking continues to be the same as above - cite the '''best available [[WP:RS]]''' at the moment - or - nothing at all until there is one - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 15:04, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

== "[[Template:Human timeline]]" ==
Hi, you introduced a div-span-flip error with your changes to [[Template:Human timeline]] today. All the pages it links to are now appearing in the [[WP:LINT]] filter [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:LintErrors/misc-tidy-replacement-issues&namespace=0 Miscellaneous issues] And I'm not seeing what needs to be adjusted to correct this issue. I thought you'd appreciate this message more than me attempting to tinker with it. [[User:Zinnober9|Zinnober9]] ([[User talk:Zinnober9|talk]]) 20:50, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
:{{reply|Zinnober9|Hike395|Jonesey95}} (and others) - Thank you *very much* for your post re the "[[WP:Lint]]" issue - at the moment, I have no idea whatsoever how to solve this problem (I'm a "newbie" with much of the template coding) - any help solving this template problem would be *greatly* appreciated - Thanks in advance for your help with this - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 21:27, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
'''NOTE: Copied from [[Wikipedia talk:Linter#"Template:Human timeline"]]'''
::{{fixed}}. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template%3AHuman_timeline&type=revision&diff=1032177667&oldid=1032161473 I had to swap] two nested templates. In short, {{tl|font}} uses span tags, and {{tl|Vertical text}} uses div tags. Div tags don't like to be inside of span tags. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 22:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
:::{{thank you}} {{reply|Jonesey95}} Thank you *very, very* much for your help with this linter error - lesson learned - Thanks again - your help is *greatly* appreciated - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 00:01, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

== "[[Template:Perseverance Mission Timer]]" ==

Hi, there is a discrepancy of 9 minutes between the sol switch of the [[Template:Perseverance Mission Timer|template]] created by you Perseverance_Mission_Timer and my templates e.g. {{User:Schrauber5/testMars2020backwards|Sol_ref=76|Mars_time_ref=12:34|UTC_ref=2021-05-07 19:26:00|UTC={{time|hide-refresh=yes|hide-tz=yes|df-cust=Y-m-d G:i}}}}

Is the claim of your template to have the sol switch with minute accuracy? [[User:Schrauber5|Schrauber5]] ([[User talk:Schrauber5|talk]]) 07:53, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
:{{reply|Schrauber5}} - Thank you for your comments - I'm somewhat new to this - you may have a good solution - Thanks again for your comments - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 16:16, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

At Sol 0 0:00 in the docu of the template, there is UT 2021-02-18 13:50 given, in the code 4:53, and I think that 4:44 is correct (based on published Earth and Mars time of ingenuity flight 5). [[User:Schrauber5|Schrauber5]] ([[User talk:Schrauber5|talk]]) 06:11, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
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== "[[User talk:Viriditas#Please stop|USA News: Political Cult - My Comments]]" ==

FWIW - seems relevant here as well - should be *entirely* ok of course - in any case - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 16:45, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

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Copied from the [[User talk:Viriditas#Please stop|"Viriditus – Political Cult" Talk-Page (May 23, 2021)]]

* FWIW - seems relevant - Yes - the Republican Party may now be a cult<ref name="CNN-20210523">{{cite news |last=Harwood |first=John |title=Dismissed in 2012, this diagnosis of GOP ills has now become undeniable |url=https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/politics/republicans-extremists-worse-than-2012/index.html |date=May 23, 2021 |work=[[CNN|CNN News]] |accessdate=May 23, 2021 }}</ref><ref name=WP-20210923">{{cite news |last=Kagan |first=Robert |authorlink=Robert Kagan |title=Opinion: Our constitutional crisis is already here |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/09/23/robert-kagan-constitutional-crisis/ |date=September 23, 2021 |work=[[The Washington Post]] |accessdate=September 23, 2021 }}</ref> - but to what end? - following the money (''[[cui bono]]''?) - may be behind much of this imo - although the ball may be hidden - via theatrics, ploys and whatnot - after all -  just 400 people have more wealth than half of all Americans combined<ref name="POL-20110310">{{cite news |last=Kertscher |first=Tom |title=Just 400 Americans -- 400 -- have more wealth than half of all Americans combined. |url=https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/mar/10/michael-moore/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/ |date=May 10, 2011 |work=[[Politico]] |accessdate=May 22, 2021 }}</ref> - an historic 2017 tax cut "heist" largely benefits this ultra-rich group of people afaik<ref name=NYT-220171202">{{cite news |author=The Editorial Board |title=A Historic Tax Heist |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/opinion/editorials/a-historic-tax-heist.html#permid=25057065 |date=December 2, 2017 |work=[[The New York Times]] |accessdate=May 22, 2021 }}</ref> - and represents a "non-negotiable red line" to Republicans re negotiations<ref name="MSNBC-20210503">{{cite news |last=Benen |first=Steve |title=Why it matters that McConnell refuses to touch Trump-era tax cuts |url=https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/why-it-matters-mcconnell-refuses-touch-trump-era-tax-cuts-n1266150 |date=May 3, 2021 |work=[[MSNBC|MSNBC-News]] |accessdate=May 22, 2021 }}</ref> - as well as, similarly, with Democrats<ref name="NYT-20210913">{{cite news |last1=Weisman |first1=Jonathan |last2=Tankersley |first2=Jim |title=House Democrats’ Plan to Tax the Rich Leaves Vast Fortunes Unscathed  - The House Ways and Means Committee’s proposal to pay for trillions in social spending leaves wealth gains and inheritances largely alone. It focuses instead on a more traditional target: income. |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/13/us/politics/tax-plan-democrats.html |date=September 13, 2021 |work=[[The New York Times]] |accessdate=September 14, 2021 }}</ref> - all in all -  a way of maintaining an "american aristocracy" of ultra-rich people? - at the expense of tax payers? - a return to a "plantation economy"? - updated to modern times - and modern dress - develop a following - promote a cult - denounce democracy<ref name="WP-20210517">{{cite news |last=Rampell |first=Catherine |title=Opinion: Almost half of Republicans admit they’re ready to ditch democracy |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/17/republicans-are-sprinting-away-democracy/ |date=May 17, 2021 |work=[[The Washington Post]] |accessdate=May 22, 2021 }}</ref> - as well - seems the current Republican Party wants to rule, not govern, and, by way of another [[American Civil War]] involving race or the like, wants to return to a time of [[American Revolution|The American Revolution]], and embrace a [[monarch]] like [[George III|King George]] - simply backwards - going backwards in time - backwards in [[History of the United States|USA History]] - or so it currently seems<ref name="NYT-20211002">{{cite news |last=Bogdan |first=Dennis |authorlink=User:Drbogdan |title=Comment - USA: Overturning The 2020 Election *Failed* - Hopefully, No Future Tries? |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/02/opinion/jan-6-trump-eastman-election.html#permid=114817926 |date=October 2, 2021 |work=[[The New York Times]]  |accessdate=December 17, 2021  }}</ref> - my 2013 NYT comments may be especially relevant<ref name="NYT-20130426">{{cite news |last=Bogdan |first=Dennis |authorlink=User:Drbogdan |title=Comment - USA: More Valuable Than Money? |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/opinion/krugman-the-one-percents-solution.html#permid=8854940 |date=April 26, 2013 |work=[[The New York Times]] |url-status=live |archivedate=October 3, 2015 |accessdate=May 22, 2021 |archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20151003143043/http://home.comcast.net/~drbogdan/images/SAVE-DB-Comment-20130426-NYT.jpg }}</ref> - in any case - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 00:58, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
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== "[[Talk:2020 United States presidential election/Archive 24#Request for stand-alone article titled “2020 American coup d’etat attempt”|USA News: Attempted Coup - My Comments]]" ==

FWIW - seems relevant here - and, as well, related to [[Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election]] - in any case - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 18:25, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

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Copied from the [[Talk:2020 United States presidential election/Archive 24#Request for stand-alone article titled “2020 American coup d’etat attempt”|"2020 United States presidential election - Coup Attempt" Talk-Page (November 25, 2020)]]

* '''Comment''' - WOW - most "opposes" above seem to be wishful thinking (and/or unrealistic thinking) re the current very non-traditional WH administration - and seem to be presenting an attempted coup (or attempted "legislative coup" or "[[self-coup]]" or "power grab" or "refusal to give up power" or "[[democratic backsliding]]") as a moot (or irrevelant) point (since the GSA is now permitting the newly elected administration to proceed) - seems an attempted coup ("testing-the-waters", so-to-speak), based on numerous [[WP:RS]] references (see [[Talk:2020 United States presidential election#Coup|listing above]] for some), that's seemingly failed (so far), is still an attempted coup (or the like) that may still be ongoing (and/or underway) in the WH - and, at least, may need special noting in Wikipedia - via of its own article - after all - there has been - to date => no actual concession from top WH leaders; an unexplained shuffling of top leadership at agencies, including the Pentagon; no official acknowledgement of the newly elected administration from top leaders of the opposing party; numerous WH tweets broadcasting an alternative narrative to millions - and there's a lot of days to go before January 20th, 2021 - in any case - hope this helps in some way - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 14:27, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
:'''ADD''' => FWIW - This apparent attempt (so far) all seems remarkedly consistent (imo) with my own published (somewhat prescient?) [[The New York Times|NYTimes]] Comments some years ago, in 2013.<ref name="NYT-20130426">{{cite news |last=Bogdan |first=Dennis |authorlink=User:Drbogdan |title=Comment - USA: More Valuable Than Money? |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/opinion/krugman-the-one-percents-solution.html#permid=8854940 <!---https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/opinion/krugman-the-one-percents-solution.html#permid=380---> |date=April 26, 2013 |work=[[The New York Times]] |url-status=dead |archivedate=October 3, 2015 |accessdate=November 29, 2020 |archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20151003143043/http://home.comcast.net/~drbogdan/images/SAVE-DB-Comment-20130426-NYT.jpg }}</ref> - in any case - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 13:11, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
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FOLLOWUP NEWS (September 20, 2021): Seems new detailed information about the [[Talk:Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election#coup attempt details|actual coup attempt by the Trump WH administration]] has now been more fully described in ''"[[The New York Times]]"'',<ref name="NYT-20211002">{{cite news |author=The Editorial Board |title=Opinion (and my comment): Jan. 6 Was Worse Than We Knew |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/02/opinion/jan-6-trump-eastman-election.html#permid=114817926:11481792 |date=October 2, 2021 |work=[[The New York Times]] |accessdate=October 3, 2021 }}</ref> ''"[[The Washington Post]]"'',<ref name="WP-20210920">{{cite news |last=Sargent |first=Greg |title=Opinion: Ominous new details about Trump’s coup attempt require Democrats to act |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/09/20/graham-lee-stolen-election-filibuster/ |date=September 20, 2021 |work=[[The Washington Post]] |accessdate=September 20, 2021}}</ref><ref name="WP20210930">{{cite news |last=Sullivan |first=Margaret |title=A Trump lawyer wrote an instruction manual for a coup. Why haven’t you seen it on the news? |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/sullivan-eastman-memo/2021/09/29/68d93000-211f-11ec-9309-b743b79abc59_story.html |date=September 30, 2021 |work=[[The Washington Post]] |accessdate=September 30, 2021 }}</ref><ref name="WP-20211008">{{cite news |last=Lozada |first=Carlos |title=Adam Schiff points to a second insurrection — by members of Congress themselves - In his memoir [''"Midnight In Washington: How We Almost Lost Our Democracy and Still Could"''], the House Intelligence Committee chair argues America barely passed Trump’s “stress test” of American democracy |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/10/08/adam-schiff-midnight/ |date=8 October 2021 |work=[[The Washington Post]] |accessdate=9 October 2021 }}</ref> ''"[[CNN|CNN News]]"''<ref name="CNN-20210920">{{cite news |last1=Gangel |first1=Jamie |last2=Herb |first2=Jeremy |title=Memo shows Trump lawyer's six-step plan for Pence to overturn the election |url=https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/politics/trump-pence-election-memo/index.html |date=September 20, 2021 |work=[[CNN]] |accessdate=September 20, 2021 }}</ref><ref name="CNN-20210922">{{cite news |last=Collinson |first=Stephen  |title=New bombshells show Trump's coup threat was real and hasn't passed |url=https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/22/politics/donald-trump-new-revelations/index.html |date=September 22, 2021 |work=[[CNN]] |accessdate=September 22, 2021 }}</ref> and ''"[[The Boston Globe]]"''<ref name="BG-20120927">{{cite news |last1=Tribe |first1=Laurence H. |last2=Buchanan |first2=Neil H. |last3=Dorf |first3=Michael C. |title=How to prevent the legal strategy that nearly undid the last election from ending democracy - Congress needs to act and the executive branch needs to step up. |url=https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/09/27/opinion/how-prevent-legal-strategy-that-nearly-undid-last-election-ending-democracy/ |date=September 27, 2021 |work=[[The Boston Globe]] |accessdate=September 27, 2021 }}</ref> news reports - these reports are largely based on material from the 2021 book ''"[[Peril (Woodward book)|Peril]]"'' by American journalists [[Bob Woodward]] and [[Robert Costa (journalist)|Robert Costa]]<ref name="NYT-20210917">{{cite news |last=Williams |first=John |title=Bob Woodward Extends His Trump Chronicles With the Chaotic Transfer of Power |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/books/review-peril-bob-woodward-robert-costa-trump-biden.html |date=September 17, 2021 |work=[[The New York Times]] |accessdate=September 21, 2021 }}</ref> - also - see the related [[Eastman Memorandum]] article detailing the 6-point plan to overturn the 2020 election in which [[Joe Biden]] was the clear winner - this plan has been described as an instruction manual for a [[Coup d'état|coup]]<ref name="WP20210930" /> - later, on October 31, 2021, a detailed timeline of events was reported<ref name="WP-20211101">{{cite news |author=Staff |title=Before, During and After THE ATTACK - The Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol was neither a spontaneous act nor an isolated event.  |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/jan-6-insurrection-capitol/ |date=October 31, 2021 |work=[[The Washington Post]] |accessdate=November 1, 2021 }}</ref> - in any case - hope this helps in some way - and - Stay safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 01:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

: You're a prophet and in good company: Then-CIA director [[Gina Haspel]] said the US was 'on the way to a right-wing coup' after Trump lost the election.<ref name="Sheth 2021">{{cite web | last=Sheth | first=Sonam | title=Then-CIA director Gina Haspel said the US was 'on the way to a right-wing coup' after Trump lost the election: book | website=Business Insider | date=September 14, 2021 | url=https://www.businessinsider.com/haspel-us-headed-toward-right-wing-coup-after-election-book-2021-9 | access-date=September 21, 2021}}</ref> On January 31, 2021, a detailed overview of the attempt to subvert the election of the president of the United States was published in ''[[The New York Times]]''.<ref name="NYT-20210131">{{cite news |last1=Rutenberg |first1=Jim |last2=Becker |first2=Jo |last3=Lipton |first3=Eric |last4=Haberman |first4=Maggie |last5=Martin |first5=Jonathan |last6=Rosenberg |first6=Matthew |last7=Schmidt |first7=Michael S. |title=77 Days: Trump's Campaign to Subvert the Election – Hours after the United States voted, the president declared the election a fraud — a lie that unleashed a movement that would shatter democratic norms and upend the peaceful transfer of power. |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/31/us/trump-election-lie.html |date=January 31, 2021 |work=[[The New York Times]] |access-date=February 1, 2021 }}</ref><ref name="NYT-20210201mr">{{cite news |last1=Rosenberg |first1=Matthew |last2=Rutenberg |first2=Jim |title=Key Takeaways From Trump's Effort to Overturn the Election – A Times examination of the 77 days between election and inauguration shows how a lie the former president had been grooming for years overwhelmed the Republican Party and stoked the assault on the Capitol. |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/01/us/politics/trump-election-results.html |date=February 1, 2021 |work=[[The New York Times]] |access-date=February 1, 2021 }}</ref> The danger will not be over until Trump and his followers are completely divorced from US politics. Stay alert. -- [[User:Valjean|Valjean]] ([[User talk:Valjean|talk]]) 01:30, 21 September 2021 (UTC)  	
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== "[[Talk:Big lie#The Big Lie Makes Big Money?|USA News: Big Lie Makes Big Money? - My Comments]]" ==

FWIW - seems relevant here as well - should be *entirely* ok of course - in any case - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 16:08, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

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Copied from "[[Talk:Big lie#The Big Lie Makes Big Money?]]": (July 31, 2021)

Also, Copied to "[[Talk:Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election#The Big Lie Makes Big Money?]]":<br />
(as a further way of attempting to overturn the 2020 USA presidential election - and, possibly, future USA presidential elections as well)

Also, Copied to "[[Talk:Veracity of statements by Donald Trump#The Big Lie Makes Big Money?]]":<br />
(as another instance of being less-than-truthful - and to make a lot of money)


Should this very recent ''[[New York Times]]'' news report<ref name="NYT-20210731">{{cite news |last1=Goldmacher |first1=Shane |last2=Shorey |first2=Rachel |title=Trump Raised $56 Million Online in First Half of 2021 - The former president raised far more money online than any other Republican, federal records show, and more than each of the three main fund-raising arms of the Republican Party itself. |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/31/us/politics/trump-donations.html |date=31 July 2021 |work=[[The New York Times]] |accessdate=31 July 2021 }}</ref> be added, in some way, to the "[[Big lie#Trump's false claim of a stolen election|The Big Lie]]" article - as perhaps another reason, besides pursuing political power, in the near term and/or later, to continue promoting "[[Big lie#Trump's false claim of a stolen election|The Big Lie]]"? - Comments Welcome - in any case - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 12:59, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Drbogdan}} The NYT source is not directly related to the topic of the article. And [[WP:OR]] says: "To demonstrate that you are not adding original research, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are '''directly related to the topic of the article''', and directly support the material being presented." --[[User:RenatUK|<span style="background-color:#FF7400; color:#FFFFFF;">Renat</span>]] 14:05, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
::{{reply|RenatUK}} (and others) - Thank you for your comments - yes - *entirely* agree - more direct [[WP:RS]] may be helpful re the issue - several such '''direct references''' may include ''[[The New York Times]]'',<ref name="NYT-20210417">{{cite news |last1=Goldmacher |first1=Shane |last2=Shorey |first2=Rachel |title=Trump’s Sleight of Hand: Shouting Fraud, Pocketing Donors’ Cash for Future - With breathless, often misleading appeals, the former president promised small donors that he was using the money to fight the election results, but in fact stored much of it for future use. |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/01/us/politics/trump-cash.html|date=17 April 2021 |work=[[The New York Times]] |accessdate=31 July 2021 }}</ref><ref name="NYT-20210131">{{cite news |last1=Goldmacher |first1=Shane |last2=Shorey |first2=Rachel |title=Trump Raised $255.4 Million in 8 Weeks as He Sought to Overturn Election Result - The former president’s fund-raising slowed significantly after the Electoral College delivered its votes to make Joseph R. Biden Jr. the 46th president. |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/31/us/politics/trump-voter-fraud-fundraising.html |date=31 January 2021 |work=[[The New York Times]] |accessdate=31 July 2021 }}</ref> ''[[NBC News]]''<ref name="NBC-20210324">{{cite news |last=Smith |first=Allan |title=Capitol riot suspects ramped up donations to Trump after his election defeat - An NBC News analysis of Federal Election Commission filings found that people alleged to be rioters upped their contributions after Election Day. |url=https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/capitol-riot-suspects-ramped-donations-trump-after-his-election-defeat-n1261431 |date=24 March 2021 |work=[[NBC News]] |accessdate=31 July 2021 }}</ref> and ''[[Yahoo News]]''<ref name="YN-20210331">{{cite news |last1=Zahn |first1=Max |last2=Serwer |first2=Andy |title=Ken Burns: People are making lots of money off ‘the big lie’ of US election fraud |url=https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ken-burns-people-are-making-lots-of-money-off-election-fraud-135805593.html |date=31 March 2021 |work=[[Yahoo News]] |accessdate=31 July 2021 }}</ref> - there may be more direct references (perhaps many more) - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 14:34, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
'''UPDATE:''' Besides ''making'' Big Money from [[Big lie#Trump's false claim of a stolen election|The Big Lie]] during the current go-round in 2020-2021<ref name="NYT-20210731" /><ref name="NYT-20210417" /><ref name="NYT-20210131" /><ref name="NBC-20210324" /><ref name="YN-20210331" /> - others are ''funding'' the Big Lie with their own Big Money<ref name="NYR-20210802">{{cite news |last=Mayer |first=Jane |title=The Big Money Behind the Big Lie - Donald Trump’s attacks on democracy are being promoted by rich and powerful conservative groups that are determined to win at all costs. |url=https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/08/09/the-big-money-behind-the-big-lie |date=2 August 2021 |work=[[The New Yorker]] |accessdate=2 August 2021 }}</ref> - all in all - Money seems to be a very Big Part of the Big Lie<ref name="WP-20220502">{{cite news |last=Hsu |first=Spencer S. |title=Judge rejects RNC bid to block email, fundraising data from Jan. 6 panel - House probes whether Trump, RNC profited from and stoked violence through false, inflammatory claims of election fraud |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/05/02/rnc-jan6-salesforce-fundraising-lawsuit/ |date=2 May 2022 |work=[[The Washington Post]] |accessdate=2 May 2022 }}</ref>
 - in one form or another - and, perhaps, should be part of [[Big lie#Trump's false claim of a stolen election|The Big Lie]] article? - in any case - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 14:25, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
: [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]], this all seems to be very directly related to the subject. -- [[User:Valjean|Valjean]] ([[User talk:Valjean|talk]]) 23:36, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
:: I'm wondering if this Trump/GOP angle on the subject deserves its own article? I suspect that some objections to the section in this article are related to [[WP:COATRACK]], and by folding this section and some content from two other articles ([[Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election]] and [[Republican reactions to Donald Trump's claims of 2020 election fraud]]) into a meta-article entitled [[Big Lie (Trump/GOP)]], we'd have a legitimate and good-sized article. There are likely other possible ways to merge this content, but I feel it needs to be done. The final title can be discussed.
:: This matter is taking on greater importance as the lie that may succeed in destroying American democracy and American's confidence in their own elections (Putin giggles with glee...). Rs coverage is growing, so it's certainly DUE. What do you think of that idea? Then this article and the [[Veracity of statements by Donald Trump]] article would just mention and link to that article. We simply can't do the subject justice here. -- [[User:Valjean|Valjean]] ([[User talk:Valjean|talk]]) 00:17, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
{{reply|Valjean}} (and others) - Thank you *very much* for your comments - and suggestion - yes - *completely* agree with considering a newly created article re this and related material - perhaps overdue since this may have been going on for some time I would think - flexible with article title, layout and content - your suggested title "[[Big Lie (Trump/GOP)]]" may be a good start - could always be changed later - you're more than welcome to use my own related content/references here (and perhaps elsewhere) for the article if you like - in any case - Thanks again for your comments and all - Stay Safe and Healthy! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 00:39, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
: There is a big "[[schadenfreude|comfort]]" to be derived from Trump's efforts: they deplete and waste the wealth of Republicans. Much worse, and sadder, they actually kill them and reduce the number of GOP voters. His fundraising scams and his anti-vaccine, COVID-19 skepticism has serious consequences. The GOP has become a suicide cult. -- [[User:Valjean|Valjean]] ([[User talk:Valjean|talk]]) 01:37, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
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== "[[User:Drbogdan/sandbox-GenericObjectsOfDarkEnergy|Generic object of dark energy (test)]]" ==
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== "[[L 98-59]]" ==
* [https://www.sciencealert.com/nearby-planetary-system-hints-at-a-habitable-super-earth Nearby Planetary System Could Hold a Habitable Super-Earth, Astronomers Say]. (ScienceAlert)
* [https://www.eso.org/public/news/eso2112/?lang New ESO observations show rocky exoplanet has just half the mass of Venus] (ESO)
* [https://www.aanda.org/component/article?access=doi&doi=10.1051/0004-6361/202140728 Warm terrestrial planet with half the mass of Venus transiting a nearby star] (A&A)
See also: [[list of exoplanets discovered in 2019]].  
LL&P. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 08:22, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
:{{reply|Viriditas}} Thank you *very much* for sharing the links re "[[L 98-59]]" - very interesting of course - although less surprising, perhaps, when one considers that such "[[Earth analog|Earth-like planets]]" may be more numerous in the "[[observable universe]]" than all the ''"grains of sand on all our beaches"'', according to at least one news report => ''"[https://www.cnet.com/news/the-milky-way-is-flush-with-habitable-planets-study-says/ There may be more Earth-like planets than grains of sand on all our beaches - New research contends that the Milky Way alone is flush with billions of potentially habitable planets -- and that's just one sliver of the universe.]"'' ([[CNET]]) - in any case - Thanks for the links and all - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 12:39, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
::"It's the least massive exoplanet ever measured by examining its gravitational effect on the position of the star." [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 14:50, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

== "[[Hycean planet]]"  ==

:''In August 2021, a new class of habitable planets, named "hycean planets", which involves "hot, ocean-covered planets with hydrogen-rich atmospheres", has been reported.<ref name="APJ-20210826" /><ref name=<"PHY-20210825">{{cite web |author=[[University of Cambridge]]|title=New class of habitable exoplanets represent a big step forward in the search for life |url=https://phys.org/news/2021-08-class-habitable-exoplanets-big-life.html |date=25 August 2021 |work=[[Phys.org]] |accessdate=25 August 2021 }}</ref>''

Would it be helpful to add that this hypothesis will be tested after the JWST launches? BBC News reported it earlier. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 09:59, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
::{{done}} - {{reply|Viriditas}} Thank you for your recent suggestion re "[[hycean planets]]" - yes - *entirely* agree - added the following "[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Planetary_habitability&type=revision&diff=1040915302&oldid=1040776966 edit]" to the "[[Planetary habitability#Earth habitability comparison|Planetary habitability]]" article: 
::'''''Hycean planets may soon be studied for [[biosignature]]s by [[Telescope|terrestrial telescopes]] as well as [[space telescope]]s, such as the [[James Webb Space Telescope]] (JWST) scheduled to be launched later in 2021.<ref name="APJ-20210826">{{cite journal |last1=Madhusudhan |first=Nikku |last2=Piette |first2=Anjali a. A. |last3=Constantinou |first3=Savvas |title=Habitability and Biosignatures of Hycean Worlds |url=https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-4357/abfd9c |date=26 August 2021 |journal=[[The Astrophysical Journal]] |volume=918 |number=1 |doi=10.3847/1538-4357/abfd9c |accessdate=27 August 2021 }}</ref><ref name="BBC-20210827">{{cite news |author=Staff |title=Alien life could be living on big 'Hycean' exoplanets |url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/58308604 |date=27 August 2021 |work=[[BBC News]] |accessdate=27 August 2021 }}</ref>'''''
::ok with me to rv/rm/mv/ce the "[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Planetary_habitability&type=revision&diff=1040915302&oldid=1040776966 edit]" of course - Thanks again for your comments and all - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 12:56, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
:::{{reply|Viriditas}} (and others) - Brief followup - just now created the "[[Hycean planet]]" article - at least for starters - hope it's ok - any adds/adjs welcome of course - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 13:37, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

=== "[[Hycean planet]]" ===
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:I am sorry to see that the usual deletionists showed up to delete the article you created.  This was not how [[WP:NEO]] was ever intended to be used.  NEO was created because people used Wikipedia like Urban Dictonary; they would create articles about things that had a very limited reach, and were mostly confined to small subcultures or, as it quite often turned out, concepts that were created by the editors themselves, which they would then cite in a loop.  This was never the case for articles like hycean planets, which are established concepts in the scientific community that are actively being tested and discussed and have a secondary source trail beyond their initial publication.  The continued misuse of NEO in deletion discussions goes to show how the game of telephone plays out in communities where informal rules are created to guide processes, but over time the reason and intent of those rules are lost.  We see this happen again and again in the history of religion and politics, so it’s no surprise to see the same psychological defects play out in online communities over time. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 22:12, 12 December 2021 (UTC)  
{{reply|Viriditas}} - Thanks for your comments re the currently deleted (from mainspace; now a sandbox copy) "[[User:Drbogdan/sandbox-HyceanPlanet|Hycean planet]]" article (as well as your excellent comments in the related "[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hycean planet|deletion discussion]]") - they're all *greatly* appreciated - added the following to the "[[Hypothetical astronomical object#Hypothetical planet types]]" listing:

'''{{tq|* Hycean planet: A hot, water-covered planet with a hydrogen-rich atmosphere that is possibly capable of harboring life.<ref name="APJ-20210826" /><ref name="ES-20210829">{{Cite web |last=Anderson |first=Paul Scott |title=Hycean planets might be habitable ocean worlds |url=https://earthsky.org/space/hycean-planets-exoplanets-habitability/ |date=29 August 2021 |work=[[Earth & Sky]] |language=en-US} |access-date=12 December 2021 }}</ref><ref name="TG-20210825">{{cite news |last=Davis |first=Nicola |title=‘Mini-Neptunes’ beyond solar system may soon yield signs of life - Cambridge astronomers identify new hycean class of habitable exoplanets, which could accelerate search for life |url=https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/26/mini-neptune-beyond-solar-system-may-soon-yield-sign-life-hycean-exoplanet-cambridge-astronomer |date=25 August 2021 |work=[[The Guardian]] |accessdate=12 December 2021 }}</ref>
}}'''

Should be ok for the moment - guess we'll have to wait-and-see if the new "[[Just Wonderful Space Telescope]]" (hopefully all goes well with the upcoming launch of course) detects any "[[User:Drbogdan/sandbox-HyceanPlanet|Hycean planets]]" - then we may re-add the article I would think - in any case - Thanks again for your comments and all - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 22:41, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

:I don’t see why it can’t also be mentioned in [[Nikku Madhusudhan]]. Again, this is the deletion community misusing [[WP:NEO]].  That argument was intended to apply to non-notable articles created by editors trying to game the system, not to scientists doing active research in a notable field.  The entire deletion community is wrong. The utterly baseless idea that Wikipedia cannot discuss the latest scientific research in the encyclopedia but can create a new article on the newest thing in popular culture such as an album or a movie goes to show how NEO is consistently misapplied. There is no meaningful distinction in notability between a new area of research that is published and a new work of art released into the public domain. If an idea is notable enough to be published by a notable publication involving a notable researcher, then its inclusion in the encyclopedia follows. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 00:13, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

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== "[[COVID-19 pandemic]]" ==
Hi! [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:COVID-19_pandemic&diff=1022979902&oldid=1022943968&diffmode=source I appreciate your effort alphabetizing names]! Anyway I need to add that [[Chinese names]] traditionally put the surname first, so those names should be indexed by the first element (for example [[Li Wenliang]] should be sorted under "Li"). [[Korean names]] and [[Vietnamese names]] are also surname first. ([[Japanese names]] are usually expressed surname last in English but are actually surname first in Japanese, although lately the Japanese government is promoting referring to Japanese people as surname first in English)
Also remember some cultures do not have family names. [[Ethiopian names]] do not have family names, so [[Tedros Adhanom]] should be called "Tedros", his given name. [[Icelandic names]] and [[Malay names]] also usually lack family names and so should be listed by their given names.
Thanks, [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 21:11, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
:{{reply|WhisperToMe}} - Thank you *very much* for your comments - and correcting the edit - no problem whatsoever - Thanks again for your help with this - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 21:22, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
::You're welcome! I've been masking and have been vaccinated, and I hope you stay healthy too! [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 21:24, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

== "[[Ayurveda]]", "[[homeopathy]]", etc ==
Why hasn't the medical community come out stronger against things like Ayurveda and homeopathy? I recently saw a complimentary medicine page at Johns Hopkins that basically argued that Ayurveda was an acceptable therapy as long as it was combined with western medicine.  That sounds odd to me.  Why not just come out and say it's nonsense?  I know people who practice Ayurveda, and they are completely out there in fantasyland. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 08:29, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{reply|Viriditas}} - Thank you for your comments and *excellent* questions re "[[Ayurveda]]" (new to me), "[[homeopathy]]" and all - *entirely* agree with you - the medical community (esp those associated with "[[John Hopkins University]]" I would think) should be more forceful against these, and related, notions - in fact, should the '''title''' of the related Wikipedia "[[Alternative medicine]]" article, with the "alternative" and "medicine" terms themselves suggesting a type of acceptability, be updated to a more appropriate title? - perhaps a money-thing - after all, ads for "[[Prevagen]]" (a so-called memory-enhancer that's not at all proven effective by the responsible medical commnity)<ref name="WP-20210911">{{cite news |last=Hamilton |first=Martha M. |title=Does the supplement Prevagen improve memory? A court case is asking that question. |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/prevagen-memory-loss-does-it-work/2021/09/10/53e5d3e8-f3a6-11eb-a49b-d96f2dac0942_story.html |date=September 11, 2021 |work=[[The Washington Post]] |accessdate=September 13, 2021 }}</ref> seem to be ubiquitous these days - along with related types of "[[snake-oil]]" cures - basically, promoting "[[quackery]]" - thought such advertizing was not allowed these days - guess they're now ok? - they seem to fall outside responsible regulation of the "[[FDA]]" and the like - iac - Thanks again for your comments and all - they're all *greatly* appreciated - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 12:59, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
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== "[[User:Drbogdan/BogdanDennis-PhD-Dissertation-1973-TEXT|My 1973 PhD Degree]]" ==
I just noticed you got your PhD in 1973<br />
You must have some fascinating stories to tell about what it was like in 1973.  What was the zeitgeist of the time?  Were people hopeful for the future or pessimistic? Would appreciate hearing some of your off the cuff thoughts and memories from that time.  Did you have a beard or mustache? [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 08:33, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
:{{reply|Viriditas}} - Thank you for your comments - and questions - '''''"[[zeitgeist]]"'''''?: pretty much busy with "[[User:Drbogdan/BogdanDennis-PhD-Dissertation-1973-TEXT|my research]]" at the time to notice - but more "hopeful for the future" than otherwise as I recall in 20/20 hindsight - seems the Wikipedia "[[Hippie]]" article captures the ''spirit'' of the times very well imo - around that time, attended a "[[Timothy Leary]]" lecture ( one of my pictures => "[[:File:TimothyLeary-LectureTour-OnStage-SUNYAB-1969.jpg]]" ) and an "[[Moratorium to End the War in Vietnam|antiwar demonstration]]" ( another of my pictures => "[[:File:VietnamWar2ndMoratorium-WashDC-19691115b-DrDennisBogdan.jpg]]" ) - ( some of my other related pictures are at => "[[:commons:Category:Files by User:Drbogdan]]" ) - '''"memories"'''?: mostly positive and fun in one form or another - seemed like a time of adventure and creativity in some ways - '''"beard or mustache"'''?: mostly neither, although both for a brief time - interestingly, seems the film ''"[[American Graffiti]]"'' captures the ''spirit'' of my high school days (early 1960s) very well; the film ''"[[Animal House]]"'' captures, at least partially, the ''spirit'' (but not details of course) of my beginning student days (early 1960s) at "[[George Washington University|GWU]]" in "[[Washington, D.C.|DC]]", but not my more studious days afterwards there, or later, in graduate school, at "[[University at Buffalo|SUNYAB]]" - "[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan my FaceBook page]" has a lot more related information if interested - were you pursuing studies and all during these days as well? - iac - hope my reply helps in some ways - Thanks again for your own comments and all - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 13:16, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
::I'm from Gen X, but I've recently come to the realization that my core beliefs neatly align with Gen Y (millennials). Thanks for taking a walk with me down memory lane. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 00:55, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
:::Update:  I'm going to rewatch ''American Graffiti'' so I can ask you some more questions. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 08:02, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
{{reply|Viriditas}} Yes - ''"[[American Graffiti]]"'' is one of the great films imo - esp in capturing the ''spirit'' of the times (1962/high school) - for me and a lot of others - may also wish to watch one of ''"[[The Lathe of Heaven]]"'' films ("[[The Lathe of Heaven (film)|1980]]" and/or "[[Lathe of Heaven (film)|2002]]" versions) I recently "[[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2021 September 5#Unknown episode of another show_similar to The Time Element (1958)|referenced]]" re your interest in dreams and time travel - another great film(s) imo - at least in thoughtful sf ideas - although not at all the TV episode re the French Revolution you're trying to locate - iac - Enjoy !! - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 13:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
:I own the book, and I've seen all the film adaptations of ''Lathe of Heaven''.  But, thank you for thinking of me and keeping me appraised.  Do you have plans to watch the upcoming adaptation of ''[[Foundation (TV series)|Foundation]]''?  It starts in about a week.  That's from your generation, so you must be a bit excited.  I know I am.  [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 08:13, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
::{{reply|Viriditas}} - Thanks for your comments re ''"[[The Lathe of Heaven]]"'' (not read book) and the "[[Foundation series|''Foundation'' series]]" (read most books) - TV series ("[[Foundation (TV series)#Writing|80 eps/80hrs]]?) scheduled to begin Friday, September 24, 2021 (note: "[[Foundation (TV series)#Development|interesting comment]]" imo => ''"It’s a 1,000-year chess game between Hari Seldon and the Empire, and all the characters in between are the pawns, but some of the pawns over the course of this saga end up becoming kings and queens."''<ref name="HR-20210722">{{cite web |last=Hibberd |first=James |title=Apple TV Ordered Isaac Asimov’s ‘Foundation’ After Hearing This One-Sentence Pitch   |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/apple-tv-david-s-goyer-foundation-1234985520/ |date=22 July 2021 |work=[[The Hollywood Reporter]] |accessdate=18 September 2021 }}</ref> - by coincidence - "[[User:Joannebogdan|wife]]" and I watched the "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4QYV5GTz7c trailer]" (2:49) several days ago - not yet sure if we'll be tuning in - we're very busy with one thing or another these days (some real-world) - although we may end up viewing the TV series at some later time - if interested, see my [https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10160749279614691 related FaceBook post] - iac - Thanks again for your comments and all - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 12:25, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
:::That trailer for ''Foundation'' is frustrating beyond measure.  Apple is worth more than two trillion and they made a trailer that looks like it was made in five minutes using the iMovie storyboard template. I am not hopeful for this franchise if they continue to cut corners like this. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 22:38, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

=== ''"[[Foundation (TV series)|Foundation]]"'' ===
Episode 1.  Two words:  [[Alexander Siddig]]! [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 09:56, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
:Thanks for your comment - didn't yet watch - perhaps at some better opportunity - Thanks again - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 11:55, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
::It's not bad.  They are trying to deal with an enormous amount of material.  I just hope they can find their groove. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 21:38, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
{{ping|Viriditas}} - FWIW - seems some recent reviews<ref name="GZM-20210923">{{cite news |last=Bricken |first=Rob |title=They Said Foundation Couldn't Be Filmed, and It Still Hasn't Been - A few great performances do not save Apple TV+'s faithless adaptation of Isaac Asimov's classic sci-fi series. |url=https://gizmodo.com/they-said-foundation-couldnt-be-filmed-and-it-still-ha-1847731204 |date=23 September 2021 |work=[[Gizmodo]] |accessdate=22 October 2021 }}</ref><ref name="GZM-20211022">{{cite news |last=Bricken |first=Rob |title=Foundation Just Became Star Wars, and It Sucks - This week's episode of the Apple TV+ adaptation of Isaac Asimov's sci-fi classic reveals the creators' lack of faith in the original books. |url=https://gizmodo.com/foundation-just-became-star-wars-and-it-sucks-1847918368 |date=22 October 2021 |work=[[Gizmodo]] |accessdate=22 October 2021 }}</ref> may suggest ''"Foundation"'' is truly unfilmable - or, at least, could be much better? - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 00:16, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
:Thanks, I saw those.  The thing to keep in mind, is that on average, the worst reviewed episodes of any season are usually in the beginning of a first season show.  This has been true for something like a half-century.  So I really wouldn’t put much faith or credence into those reviews.  I’m up to date with the sixth episode, and there are things I really like, and things I don’t.  My biggest criticism is that they are generally playing it too safe so as not to alienate viewers, and I think that’s a huge mistake, as the hardcore fans of this show expect the unexpected. The most recent episode was way too reminiscent of the rebooted ''Battlestar Galactica'', while the episode before that reminded me of ''Star Wars'' and ''Star Trek''.  So I think the problem for me at least, is that they aren’t taking enough risks and are falling back on to old tropes and ideas to attract viewers.  I don’t like that, as I’m the kind of person who watches a show for something new it can bring to the table of ideas, not to rehash the past and give me more of the same.  As it turns out, I’m in the minority, as most viewers want something familiar, not something altogether novel and unique. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 22:55, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|Viriditas}} - Thank you for your comments - they're excellent - and greatly appreciated - for us, at the moment - we're watching oldie but goodie episodes of ''"[[Science Fiction Theatre]]"'' (mid-1950s TV) found on [https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=science+fiction+theater+tv+series Youtube] and elsewhere - not anywhere near the sci-fi quality of some, like the cerebral ''"[[2001: A Space Odyssey (film)|2001]]"'' (1968,US),<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10159526093314691 Bogdan, Dennis (7 May 2020) FaceBook post-odyssey]</ref> ''"[[Solaris (1972 film)|Solaris]]"'' (1972,RU),<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/131780466887876 Bogdan, Dennis (1 February 2011) FaceBook post-solaris]</ref>  ''"[[World on a Wire]]"'' (1973,GE)<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/181578415320867 Bogdan, Dennis (18 December 2012) FaceBook post-world]</ref> or ''"[[Blade Runner]]"'' (1982,US)<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/112489675547172 Bogdan, Dennis (19 February 2012) FaceBook post-runner]</ref> efforts, but ok for us these days - in any case - Thanks again for your comments and all - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 00:56, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
:::Sounds like fun.  As I’ve gotten older, I’ve developed an interest in quirky, small budget, off-beat, B-movie science fiction, because they do take major risks with very little payoff, and they rely solely on writing and acting to get their points across instead of big budget effects.  There’s four I can recommend that I really enjoy.  I’ll list them from best to worst: ''[[The Man From Earth]]'' (2007).  Likely the best B-movie science fiction film ever made.  Total budget: $200k!  90% of the film takes place in a single room, and both the writer and actors are Star Trek alumni. If this is what film heaven looks like, I’m in line to get my wings; ''[[Safety Not Guaranteed]]'' (2012).  This delightful film was made for $750k!  So far, it has made more than $4 million! Truly, a success story; ''[[The Vast of Night]]'' (2019).  This 1950s, first contact period piece was made for $700k!  It’s a silly story, but the writing and acting are great, and it will have you convinced you’re back in the fifties again; ''Quanta'' (2019).  I’m not going to sugarcoat it.  This film is bad.  Real bad.  But it’s so bad, it’s good. One reviewer described it as ''[[Flowers for Algernon]]'' meets ''Contact'', which just about sums it up. Enjoy! [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 23:14, 24 October 2021 (UTC) 
{{ping|Viriditas}} - Yes - Thanks for the comments - and suggested films - we've seen the first three films (ie, ''"[[The Man from Earth]]"'' (2007,US),<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10158881423299691 Bogdan, Dennis (26 October 2019) FaceBook post-earth]</ref> ''"[[Safety Not Guaranteed]]"'' (2012,US), ''"The Vastness of Night"'' (2019,US)) you've noted some years ago - and *entirely* agree with you - those three films are worthy of course - but [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5088528/ ''"Quanta"''] (2019,US) is a new one for us - other related low-budget (afaik) films of possible interest that are less new to us may include ''"[[A Boy and His Dog (1975 film)|A Boy and His Dog]]"'' (1975,US; $400k), ''"[[Primer (film)|Primer]]"'' (2004,US; $7k), ''"[[Monsters (2010 film)|Monsters]]"'' (2010,US; $500k),<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/235793936451945 Bogdan, Dennis (24 July 2011) FaceBook post-monsters]</ref> ''"[[Another Earth]]"'' (2011,US; $100k),<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/168232816604009 Bogdan, Dennis (31 October 2011) FaceBook post-another]</ref> ''"[[Love (2011 film)|Love]]"'' (2011,US; $500k)<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10151782885069691 Bogdan, Dennis (17 August 2013) FaceBook post-love]</ref> and ''"[[Coherence (film)|Coherence]]"'' (2013,US; $50k) - iac - Thanks again for your comments - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 01:40, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
:That’s a good list.  I really enjoyed ''Coherence''.  Did you ever get a chance to see ''[[Aniara (film)|Aniara]]'' (2018)? It’s really a fascinating film, but super depressing.  I highly recommend it.  On the flip side, I finally saw ''[[The Tomorrow War]]'' (2021), which I’ve purposely held off from watching until now because of all the bad things I heard about it.  But I have to say, although it wasn’t original (it’s a pastiche of many different time travel, alien, and science fiction films), it was very entertaining, but I always feel cheated after watching a Chris Pratt film, because he forces the audience to like him.  I don’t know if you saw the film yet, but there’s a small sequence involving the "volcano kid" and another regarding the ineptitude of government bureaucracy that made me chuckle, and sort of pays homage to ''[[Independence Day (1996 film)|Independence Day]]'' (1996). The music is by [[Lorne Balfe]], who worked closely with [[Hans Zimmer]] in the past, and his work evokes much of of Zimmer’s style and keeps the scenes flowing. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 11:11, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
::{{ping|Viriditas}} - Thanks again for your comments - Yes - agree with you about ''"[[Aniara (film)|Aniara]]"''<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10158977164654691 Bogdan, Dennis (26 November 2019) FaceBook post-aniara]</ref> - could have been a bit more up-beat of course - apparently, this film was based on a "[[Aniara|poem]]" that may be a mandatory read for students in some "[[Scandinavia|Scandinavian countries]]" - and perhaps serves as a metaphor, in some ways, for our own ''"[[Spaceship Earth|Spaceship Planet Earth]]"'' and humanity, including over the really long haul - reminds me of my own 2008 NYT comment, ''{{tq|[http://web.archive.org/web/20151003143043/http://home.comcast.net/~drbogdan/images/SAVE-DB-Comment-20080617-NYT.jpg "maybe humans (and even other life-forms perhaps) aren't quite as special in the eyes of the universe as some may think?"]}}''<ref name="NYT-20080617">{{cite news |last=Bogdan |first=Dennis |authorlink=User:Drbogdan |title=Comment - Humans Are Best In The Universe? |url=http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/17/darwinmania/comment-page-14/#comment-161737 |date=17 June 2008 |work=[[The New York Times]] |url-status=dead |archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20151003143043/http://home.comcast.net/~drbogdan/images/SAVE-DB-Comment-20080617-NYT.jpg |archivedate=3 October 2015 |accessdate=26 October 2021 }}</ref> - as well as the classic ''{{tq|"[[Sound and fury|sound and fury]]"}}'' quote by "[[Shakespeare]]" - the film seemed related to ''"[[Voyage to the End of the Universe|Ikarie XB 1]]"'' (1963,CZ),<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10160102521964691 Bogdan, Dennis (5 December 2020) FaceBook post-ikarie)]</ref> ''"[[Cargo (2009 film)|Cargo]]"'' (2009,CH) - and (in some eco-ways) to - ''"[[Until the End of the World]]"'' (1991,GE)<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10159060693034691 Bogdan, Dennis (20 December 2019) FaceBook post-until]</ref> - ''"[[The Tomorrow War]]"'' seemed better to us than we thought it might be beforehand - seems "[[Hans Zimmer]]" music was featured in ''"[[Blade Runner 2049]]"'' (2017,US), although the classic "[[Vangelis]]" music for ''"[[Blade Runner]]"'' (1982,US) seems better (and more memorable) to us - SF films by directors "[[Ridley Scott]]" and "[[Andrei Tarkovsky]]" are favorites - somewhat recently, we also enjoyed ''"[[Infinity Chamber]]"'' (2016,US),<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10160448425109691 Bogdan, Dennis (24 April 2021) FaceBook post-infinity]</ref> ''"[[Orbiter 9]]"'' (2017,SP)<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10160608492764691 Bogdan, Dennis (3 July 2021) FaceBook post-orbiter]</ref> - and - ''"[[A.I. Rising]]"'' (2018,RS)<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10158242734974691 Bogdan, Dennis (2 March 2019) FaceBook post-airising]</ref> (hints of ''"[[Metropolis (1927 film)|Metropolis]]"'' (1927,GE)?<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10151776930349691 Bogdan, Dennis (14 August 2013) FaceBook post-metro]</ref>) - none of these last films are very highly rated by "[[IMDb]]", but perhaps worth a view nonetheless - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 14:46, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
:::You have good taste, my friend!  Please clone yourself as soon as possible!  In other developments, I’ve been taking a long break from watching the current season of ''[[The Handmaid's Tale (TV series)|The Handmaid's Tale]]'', and I’ve only recently been getting back into season four.  While I love the show, it was becoming kind of soap opera-ish for me, but the worst part was the anxiety it would generate. It made me nervous and uncomfortable, and was almost bordering on the horror genre instead of science fiction, which is one of my major criticisms of the show.  But the acting is great, and the cinematography is the real reason I couldn’t stop watching.  Now that I’m getting back into season four, it’s so beautiful to watch, and highly immersive.  Are you a fan of the show? [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 09:05, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Viriditas}} Thanks for your recent comments - and question re ''"[[The Handmaid's Tale]]"'' (novel,1985)<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10155146281634691 Bogdan, Dennis (18 March 2017) FaceBook post-handmaid]</ref> - no, not seen any of the eps of the "[[The Handmaid's Tale (TV series)|TV-series]]", but did see the "[[The Handmaid's Tale (film)|film version]]" which was an impressive "[[cautionary tale]]" of sorts imo - not at all surprised the series turned somewhat soap opera-ish and all - the characteristics of the series that you noted reminds me of the ''"[[Dark Shadows]]"'' (1966,US) TV series in some ways, although I've not watched any of those eps either ("[[User:Joannebogdan|wife]]" is a fan and had made a related "[[User:UBX/Dark Shadows|Wiki UserBox]]") - most recently, thoroughly enjoyed ''"[[Raised by Wolves (American TV series)|Raised By Wolves]]"'' (2020,US)<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10159934866164691 Bogdan, Dennis (25 September 2020) FaceBook post-wolves]</ref> - a SF TV series with "[[Ridley Scott]]" as director (1st eps)/producer - a very creative SF notion with a lot of food-for-thought (seemingly characteristic of Scott's SF efforts) - less interesting recent TV series (at least to me atm) include ''"[[The Mandalorian]]"'' (2019,US), ''"[[Brave New World (2020 TV series)|Brave New World]]"'' (2020,US)<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10159742696219691 Bogdan, Dennis (14 July 2020) FaceBook post-brave]</ref> and, after finally watching a few eps recently, ''"[[Foundation (TV series)|Foundation]]"'' (2021,US)<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10160749279614691 Bogdan, Dennis (18 September 2021) FaceBook post-foundation]</ref> - a very recent find of possible interest is ''"[[Robot & Frank]]"'' (2012,US),<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10160818711649691 Bogdan, Dennis (29 October 2021) FaceBook post-robot]</ref> a light-and-easy quixotic-like award-winner - also - the latest film version of ''"[[Dune (2021 film)|Dune]]"'' (2021,US)<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/drbogdan/posts/10160643586499691 Bogdan, Dennis (22 July 2021) FaceBookpost-dune]</ref> seemed worthy (and much better than earlier efforts), although some concerns have been noted by some<ref name-"VLT-20211029">{{cite news |last=Hadadi |first=Roxana |title=Dune Has a Desert Problem |url=https://www.vulture.com/2021/10/dune-has-a-desert-problem.html |date=29 October 2021 |work=[[New York (magazine)#Digital expansion and destination sites|Vulture]] |accessdate=29 October 2021 }}</ref><ref name="FRB-20211023">{{cite news |last=Kain |first=Erik |title=‘Dune’ Review: A Space Opera Masterpiece With One Big Problem |url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2021/10/23/dune-review-a-space-opera-masterpiece/ |date=23 October 2021 |work=[[Forbes]] |accessdate=30 October 2021 }}</ref> - iac - Thanks again for your comments - they're all greatly appreciated - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 14:09, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
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== "[[L 98-59|L 98-59]]" update ==
Pidhorodetska et al., [https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-3881/ac1171 "L 98-59: A Benchmark System of Small Planets for Future Atmospheric Characterization,"] ''Astronomical Journal'' Vol. 162, No. 4 (29 September 2021), 169. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 03:36, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
:{{done}} {{reply|Viriditas}} Thanks for the update re [[L 98-59]] - added [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=L_98-59&diff=1048322533&oldid=1046222057 relevant text and the noted ''AJ'' reference] to the article as follows: '''{{tq|"In September 2021, suggested tests of the abilities of the [[Hubble Space Telescope]] and the upcoming [[James Webb Space Telescope]] to detect and describe the atmospheric features of the three inner planets were reported."<ref name="AJ-20210929">{{cite journal |author=Pidhorodetska, Daria |display-authors=et al. |title=L 98-59: A Benchmark System of Small Planets for Future Atmospheric Characterization |url=https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-3881/ac1171 |date=29 September 2021 |journal=[[The Astronomical Journal]] |volume=162 |number=4 |page=169 |accessdate=5 October 2021 }}</ref>}}''' - ok with me to further adj the edit of course - iac - Thanks again - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 11:53, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
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== "[[Help:Edit summary|Edit summaries]]" ==
Thank you for your detailed edit summaries, I commonly do that myself. Please would you consider omitting the citation details, to make the edit summaries more readable? Cheers. [[User:Soibangla|soibangla]] ([[User talk:Soibangla|talk]]) 17:02, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
:{{reply|Soibangla}} Thank you for your comments - yes - *entirely* agree - no problem whatsoever - trimming and otherwise improving edit summaries seems better after all - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 17:23, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
::Hey, did you forget? I want to read them, but can't with all the refs. Force of habit, I guess. Cheers. [[User:Soibangla|soibangla]] ([[User talk:Soibangla|talk]]) 01:31, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
{{ping|Soibangla}} Thanks for your reminder - yes - you're right imo re trimming the edit summary, although some editors (including me at times) prefer longer ones - working on a middle-of-the-road edit summary - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 01:40, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

== "[[Formation and evolution of the Solar System#Future|A Jovian analogue orbiting a white dwarf star]]" ==

This has been all over the news today. 

* Blackman, J.W., Beaulieu, J.P., Bennett, D.P. et al. [https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-021-03869-6 A Jovian analogue orbiting a white dwarf star]. Nature 598, 272–275 (2021).<ref name="NAT-20211013" />
* [https://keckobservatory.org/white-dwarf-system/ A Crystal Ball Into Our Solar System’s Future] (W. M. Keck Observatory).<ref name="KO-20211013" />
* [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/13/science/white-dwarf-planet.html Astronomers Found a Planet That Survived Its Star’s Death] (NYT).<ref name="NYT-20211013" /> 

{{tq2|“The fate of our solar system is likely to be similar to MOA-2010-BLG-477Lb…The sun will become a white dwarf, the inner planets will be engulfed, and the wider-orbit planets like Jupiter and Saturn will survive.”}}

Propose content additions to various articles, perhaps [[Formation and evolution of the Solar System#Future]] or [[Timeline of the far future]]. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 23:31, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
:{{reply|Viriditas}} Thanks for the comments - and references<ref name="NAT-20211013" /><ref name="KO-20211013" /><ref name="NYT-20211013" /> - looks interesting - busy at the moment, but may get back with this later - Thanks again - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 00:14, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
{{done}} {{ping|Viriditas}} Added the following to the "[[Formation and evolution of the Solar System#Future]]" and "[[Timeline of the far future#Earth, the Solar System and the universe]]" articles =>

'''"{{tq|Eventually, the Sun will likely expand sufficiently to overwhelm the inner planets (Mercury, Venus, possibly Earth), but not the outer planets, including Jupiter and Saturn. Afterwards, the Sun would be reduced to the size of a [[white dwarf]], and the outer planets and their moons would continue orbiting this diminutive solar remnant. This future development may be similar to the observed detection of [[MOA-2010-BLG-477L#Planetary system|MOA-2010-BLG-477L b]], a Jupiter-sized exoplanet orbiting its host white dwarf star [[MOA-2010-BLG-477L]].<ref name="NAT-20211013">{{cite journal |author=Blackman, J. W. |display-authors=et al. |title=A Jovian analogue orbiting a white dwarf star |url=https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03869-6 |date=13 October 2021 |journal=[[Nature (journal)|Nature]] |volume=598 |pages=272-275 |doi=10.1038/s41586-021-03869-6 |accessdate=14 October 2021 }}</ref><ref name="KO-20211013">{{cite news |last1=Blackman |first1=Joshua |last2=Bennett |first2=David |last3= Beaulieu |first3=Jean-Philippe |title=A Crystal Ball Into Our Solar System’s Future - Giant Gas Planet Orbiting a Dead Star Gives Glimpse Into the Predicted Aftermath of our Sun’s Demise |url=https://keckobservatory.org/white-dwarf-system/ |date=13 October 2021 |work=[[Keck Observatory]] |accessdate=14 October 2021 }}</ref><ref name="NYT-20211013">{{cite news |last=Ferreira |first=Becky |title=Astronomers Found a Planet That Survived Its Star’s Death - The Jupiter-size planet orbits a type of star called a white dwarf, and hints at what our solar system could be like when the sun burns out. |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/13/science/white-dwarf-planet.html |date=13 October 2021 |work=[[The New York Times]] |accessdate=14 October 2021 }}</ref> }}"''' 

The above edit is for starters at least - seems ok but ok with me to rv/rm/del/ce the edit of course - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 13:23, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
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== "[[Confidence of life detection scale]]" (CoLD) ==
[https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03804-9/figures/1 Figure 1] from Green, J., Hoehler, T., Neveu, M. et al. Call for a framework for reporting evidence for life beyond Earth. Nature 598, 575–579 (2021). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-021-03804-9
* [https://cosmosmagazine.com/space/astrobiology/what-happens-when-we-find-aliens/ NASA proposes playbook for communicating the discovery of alien life] (Cosmos)
Thank you! [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 10:53, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Viriditas}} Thank you for your recent comments - and ref links re the "[[Confidence of life detection scale]]" - for starters, added several "[[WP:Redirects]]" including "[[Confidence of life detection scale]]", "[[Confidence of Life Detection]]", "[[Confidence of life detection]]" and "[[CoLD]]" - all directed to => "[[Extraterrestrial life]]" - and added the [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Extraterrestrial_life&type=revision&diff=1053030094&oldid=1052495216 following edit] => '''A "Confidence of Life Detection" scale (CoLD) for reporting evidence of life beyond Earth has been proposed.<ref name="NAT-20211027">{{cite journal |author=Green, James |display-authors=et al. |title=Call for a framework for reporting evidence for life beyond Earth |url=https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03804-9 |date=27 October 2021 |journal=[[Nature (journal)|Nature]] |volume=598 |pages=575-579 |doi=10.1038/s41586-021-03804-9 |accessdate=1 November 2021 }}</ref><ref name="COS-20211030">{{cite news |last=Fuge |first=Lauren |title=NASA proposes playbook for communicating the discovery of alien life - Sensationalising aliens is so 20th century, according to NASA scientists. |url=https://cosmosmagazine.com/space/astrobiology/what-happens-when-we-find-aliens/ |date=30 October 2021 |work=[[Cosmos (Australian magazine)|Cosmos]] |accessdate=1 November 2021 }}</ref>''' - seems ok for now - iac - Thanks again for your comments - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 13:22, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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== "[[Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine|Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine trial issues]]" ==
I've moved your contribution on the Pfizer-BioNTech phase III trial data integrity issues to the [[Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine]] article, where I think it is more relevant. While concerning, I don't think this belongs in an article that discusses COVID-19 vaccination in general; to the best of my knowledge, there are no allegations of this invalidating the results of the trial, which seem still to be robust. -- [[User:The Anome|The Anome]] ([[User talk:The Anome|talk]]) 14:07, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|The Anome}} Thank you for your comments re the recent ''[[The BMJ]]'' report<ref name="BMJ-20211102">{{cite journal |last=Thacker |first=Paul D. |title=Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial |url=https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635 |date=2 November 2021 |journal=[[The BMJ]] |volume=2021 |number=375 |doi=10.1136/bmj.n2635 |accessdate=3 November 2021 }}</ref> - Yes - *entirely* agree with you - at least as far as I know at this time as well - guess we might have to wait-and-see how this all finally plays out - iac - Thanks again for your comments  - and recent editing efforts with this - it's *greatly* appreciated - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 14:19, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
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== "[[Template talk:Age in sols#New mismatch (Perseverance/Ingenuity sol count)|Age in sols]]" ==
Hi, {{u|Drbogdan}}! I have bad news: your template started to return 1 sol mismatch for the [[Mars 2020]] mission. Please look at my proposal )). [[User:Cherurbino|Cherurbino]] ([[User talk:Cherurbino|talk]]) 03:03, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|Cherurbino}} - Thank you for your comments - and proposed solution to the template mismatch problem - my "[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Age_in_sols&diff=prev&oldid=1057354560 reply]" is on the "[[Template talk:Age in sols]]" page - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 03:35, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

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:{{reply|buidhe}} Thank you for your comments regarding a "[[WP:FAR|Featured Article Review]]" of the "[[Mars]]" article - your comments are *greatly* appreciated - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan#top|talk]]) 15:30, 4 December 2021 (UTC)