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== Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:Loves Farm|Loves Farm]] (October 31) ==
<div style="border: solid 1px #FCC; background-color: #F8EEBC; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: #000; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> [[File:AFC-Logo_Decline.svg|50px|left]]Your recent article submission to [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for Creation]] has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time.<nowiki> </nowiki>The reasons left by Killarnee were:

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[[User:Killarnee|Killarnee]] ([[User talk:Killarnee|talk]]) 23:25, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</div><!--Template:AfC decline-->

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Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk|Articles for creation help desk]]'''. If you have any ''other'' questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the '''[[Wikipedia:Teahouse|Teahouse]]''', a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! [[User:Killarnee|Killarnee]] ([[User talk:Killarnee|talk]]) 23:25, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</div>
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== Loves Farm advice ==

Hi - writing a new article is ''hard'', because there are all sorts of policies and guidelines that you can fall foul of concerning notability, sourcing and so on. There is some guidance at [[WP:FIRST]], which might help you. 
One thing that you're going to need is independent sources - that is to say, reliably published sources that are independent of the subject. The community website isn't independent, but I did find [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-43742131 this BBC news article] about the construction of the development which might help. 
Another thing to consider is whether we need a page about Loves Farm, or whether it ought to be described in our existing article on [[St Neots]] (I see there's already some stuff in there concerning the development, which could be expanded). I don't have a view on that - it would come down to editorial judgment, and whether there is enough reliably published material about it. Hope that helps. [[User:Girth Summit|<span style="font-family:Impact;color:#006400;">Girth</span>&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Impact;color:#4B0082;">Summit</span>]][[User talk:Girth Summit|<sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub>]] 12:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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== Using tools ==

You might want to use helpful tools such as [[WP:Twinkle]] or [[WP:Ultraviolet]] to quickly revert multiple edits and warn Users within a few clicks. This is just a thought. [[User:Ivebeenhacked|Hacked]] ([[User talk:Ivebeenhacked|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked|Contribs]]) 20:27, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

:You've just simplified Wikipedia for me [[User:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺|千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺]] ([[User talk:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺#top|talk]]) 20:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::YOU ABSOLUTE LEGEND! [[User:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺|千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺]] ([[User talk:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺#top|talk]]) 20:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Hold on, how do I use this? Do I have to download them. Says it's a gadget [[User:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺|千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺]] ([[User talk:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺#top|talk]]) 20:41, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Ivebeenhacked|Ivebeenhacked]] [[User:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺|千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺]] ([[User talk:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺#top|talk]]) 20:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Well, if you want to use WP:Twinkle, then you have to change your preferences. [[User:Ivebeenhacked|Hacked]] ([[User talk:Ivebeenhacked|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked|Contribs]]) 20:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Elaborate. [[User:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺|千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺]] ([[User talk:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺#top|talk]]) 20:43, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Ok, [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets|click this]]. And then click a box next to a word that says "Twinkle". Then scroll to the bottom and click save. If you need further assistance, feel free to ask me. [[User:Ivebeenhacked|Hacked]] ([[User talk:Ivebeenhacked|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked|Contribs]]) 20:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::Done [[User:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺|千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺]] ([[User talk:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺#top|talk]]) 20:52, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Now what @[[User:Ivebeenhacked|Ivebeenhacked]] [[User:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺|千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺]] ([[User talk:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺#top|talk]]) 20:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Now go and fight vandalism! (Unless if you also want Ultraviolet downloaded). [[User:Ivebeenhacked|Hacked]] ([[User talk:Ivebeenhacked|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked|Contribs]]) 21:00, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::YaY! IM GONNA GO FIGHT VANDALISM! [[User:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺|千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺]] ([[User talk:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺#top|talk]]) 21:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Lol. [[User:Ivebeenhacked|Hacked]] ([[User talk:Ivebeenhacked|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked|Contribs]]) 21:02, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::hold on a sec, do I go on recent changes to fight the vandal then use twinkle to report them and revert it? [[User:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺|千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺]] ([[User talk:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺#top|talk]]) 21:03, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yes. But don't immediately report them. Only do it if they get continuously disruptive and ignoring warnings given by you or other editors. [[User:Ivebeenhacked|Hacked]] ([[User talk:Ivebeenhacked|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked|Contribs]]) 21:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::legend. [[User:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺|千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺]] ([[User talk:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺#top|talk]]) 21:07, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::::There's one more thing I need to say. Please do not [[Wikipedia:Edit warring|edit war]] and violate [[WP:3RR|the three-revert-rule]]. I've learned [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?page=User%3AIvebeenhacked&type=block the hard way] and I really don't want other Users going through the same thing. One such expection is, of course, fighting vandalism. [[User:Ivebeenhacked|Hacked]] ([[User talk:Ivebeenhacked|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked|Contribs]]) 21:20, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Yes okay [[User:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺|千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺]] ([[User talk:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺#top|talk]]) 21:21, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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== A fox for you! ==

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It's always great to see a new face around here. I have good hopes from your good vibes from the one time I've interacted with you so far. I hope I'll see you at [[WP:RFP/R]] one day getting rollbacker permissions. Anyways, make sure you have a good time here. Cya!

[[User:Tarlby|<span style="color:cyan;font-family:Comic Sans MS;">''Tarl''</span><span style="color:orange;font-family:Comic Sans MS;">''by''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Tarlby|''t'']]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tarlby|''c'']])</sup> 21:02, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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:Don't forget me, I'll be showing up at [[WP:RFP/R]] in no time, bud! LOL! [[User:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺|千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺]] ([[User talk:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺#top|talk]]) 21:07, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

== Username ==

Hi there. Would you be willing to consider renaming your account to use normal characters like "Feistyrooster" or similar? Given that your username is a mix of CJK and Bopomofo characters, but appears to be aimed at English readers, it seems like it will mostly be impossible to type for most English readers while simultaneously being confusing for Chinese and Japanese readers. Regards. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] ([[User talk:Daniel Quinlan|talk]]) 03:37, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

:The letters are seen in my opinion as letters with extended lines added to make it look cool. I don't think anyone will have a problem with that. [[User:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺|千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺]] ([[User talk:千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺#top|talk]]) 10:04, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

::The characters are not Latin letters. There are CJK ideographs, mostly used in Chinese and Japanese, and Bopomofo letters, used primarily in Taiwan. Some of the letters do not even look particularly similar to the letters intended (assuming you intended it to be your previous username, "FeistyRooster"). This is going to be persistently confusing to people so I have asked if this can be undone on meta. If there's another normal username you'd prefer, you might make a global rename request now. I'll leave the links below. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] ([[User talk:Daniel Quinlan|talk]]) 18:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

[[File:Ambox warning blue.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] [[Help:Getting started|Welcome]] to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "'''千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺'''", may not meet Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Username policy|username policy]]&nbsp;because your username is a mix of CJK and Bopomofo characters, but appears to be aimed at English readers, it seems like it will be impossible to type for most users (including most Chinese and Japanese users outside of perhaps Taiwan where Bopomofo is used) and is simultaneously confusing for everyone, particularly Chinese and Japanese readers. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a [[Wikipedia:Changing username|change of username]] by completing the form at [[Special:GlobalRenameRequest]], or you may simply [[Special:UserLogin/signup|create a new account]] for editing. Thank you.<!-- THE FOLLOWING CATEGORY SHOULD BE REMOVED WHEN THE USER IS BLOCKED, OR IT IS DECIDED THE NAME DOES NOT APPEAR TO VIOLATE POLICY, OR THIS TEMPLATE HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR A WHILE WITH NO ACTION:  --> {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACENUMBER}}|3|{{#ifeq:{{ROOTPAGENAME}}|千乇丨丂ㄒㄚ尺ㄖㄖ丂ㄒ乇尺|[[Category:Wikipedia usernames with possible policy issues from December 2024|{{PAGENAME}}]]}}}} <!-- Template:uw-username --> [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] ([[User talk:Daniel Quinlan|talk]]) 18:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

:To be specific, the username violates the policy because:
:# It uses phonetic symbols (i.e., Bopomofo) (see [[WP:NONSCRIPT]]).
:# It's "decorative" (see [[WP:NONSCRIPT]]).
:# It's confusing (see [[WP:UNCONF]]).
:[[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] ([[User talk:Daniel Quinlan|talk]]) 18:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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== City of Milton Keynes: BRD discussion ==

It seems to me that you have made a category error. [[Milton Keynes City Council]] is certainly a unitary authority. The [[City of Milton Keynes]] is indeed a borough with city status, ''which is administered by that UA''. It is not itself a UA. 

The confusing aspect is that there articles such as [[Peterborough]], which try to do too much at once. Peterborough is not a UA, but Peterborough City Council is. Trying to make that nice distinction in a single article is just too difficult. But when we can distinguish, as with MK, we absolutely must do so. [[User:JMF|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:JMF|talk]]) 21:11, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

:So the [[City of Milton Keynes]] is just a borough with city status. So it is a non-metropolitan district with borough status (going by my recent reading of [[Non-metropolitan district|that page]]) administered by its seemingly joint non-metropolitan district and unitary authority district council? I do not get this. I will give you for example, [[North Yorkshire (district)]]. In that article, it says that it is a unitary authority, but the council for the unitary authority also is. So I am guessing districts can have unitary authority councils, but unitary authorities themselves also can? [[User:FeistyRooster|FeistyRooster]] ([[User talk:FeistyRooster#top|talk]]) 21:50, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:As of your last paragraph, you will find that sometimes the city and the unitary authority are seperate maybe because the UA covers more then the city. Peterborough City Council administrates the UA, and the city. Because the city is inside the UA, and the city council administrates the UA. [[User:FeistyRooster|FeistyRooster]] ([[User talk:FeistyRooster#top|talk]]) 21:53, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, your first two sentences are correct. Your conundrum arises only when an article tries to (or has to, for reasons of notability) do two things at once. And I suspect that it is about to get worse, given HMG intention to amalgamate many smaller district councils into larger UAs. North Yorkshire is a district, full stop. It is administered by a Unitary Authority, North Yorkshire District Council. The clue is in the word "authority": a human agency, a council and its officers. A geographical area just ''is'', it can't do anything. 
::City of Peterborough (like City of Milton Keynes and City of Carlisle), the geographic area => not a UA, is bigger than the primary settlement. Peterborough City Council ''is'' the Authority, that is the legal basis that allows it to administer its Borough. 
::I will now revert your reversion of my edit, citing this discussion. If you continue to disagree, you had best take it to [[WP:WikiProject UK geography]] because it is a generic issue, not one that is peculiar to CoMK. [[User:JMF|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:JMF|talk]]) 10:33, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Thank you very much for correcting me [[User:FeistyRooster|FeistyRooster]] ([[User talk:FeistyRooster#top|talk]]) 12:31, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Sorry to jump in with a little trivia after I stumbled across your discussion about this. But weirdly, [[ISO 3166-2:GB]] does indeed define the area itself as a unitary authority.<ref name="ISO">{{cite web |url=https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:GB |title=Standard: ISO 3166 – Codes for the representation of names of countries and their subdivisions |author=<!--Not stated--> |website=[[International Organization for Standardization|ISO]] |access-date=16 January 2024}}</ref> Probably as a mistake that someone didn't quite think through!
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:::A second-level subdivision can be a two-tier county, a London borough, a metropolitan district, a district (NI), a council area (Scotland), or a unitary authority (England and Wales). [[User:Dgp4004|Dgp4004]] ([[User talk:Dgp4004|talk]]) 16:56, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::::@[[User:JMF|JMF]] Looks like the area can be a unitary authority [[User:FeistyRooster|FeistyRooster]] ([[User talk:FeistyRooster#top|talk]]) 16:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::We are not the only ones to struggle with the semantics of this, unsurprisingly. For a while, we had City of Milton Keynes down as "a Unitary Authority area", which was horribly prolix. Legally, CoMK is a Borough with city status [both are cited in the article] but it is not an authority. Simple question: how is authority exercised? Who or what has agency? 
:::::As I said above, this is not remotely unique to MK, it just happens to be one of the few that has separate articles for the physical geography v the administration, making life so much easier. Take it to UKGeo, it won't get resolved here. [[User:JMF|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:JMF|talk]]) 21:10, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::::{{rto|Dgp4004}}, does 3166-2 define Scotland as a government? No? Didn't think so. They recognise that it is a country.  --[[User:JMF|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:JMF|talk]]) 21:13, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::::: Apologies, I don't understand your point about Scotland.
:::::I don't like the practice of naming areas as 'unitary authorities' any more than you do. But however much we may not like it, quite a number of sources do, including ISO 3166-2:GB, the ONS and Encyclopaedia Britannica. In practice, it has become the term used for both an area and its council — just not on Wikipedia.<ref>{{United Kingdom district population citation}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |url=https://www.britannica.com/place/Milton-Keynes |title=Milton Keynes |author=<!--Not stated--> |date=30 December 2024 |website=Encyclopaedia Britannica |publisher= |access-date=1 January 2025 |quote=Milton Keynes, town and unitary authority, geographic and historic county of Buckinghamshire, south-central England.}}</ref> [[User:Dgp4004|Dgp4004]] ([[User talk:Dgp4004|talk]]) 16:56, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::The point about Scotland is that the country and its government are distinct and noone argues about it.
::::::For many places, the opposite applies: there is no need to distinguish between the area and its administration. The EB has made an editorial  decision to compress these elements, but then it had no details of ward-by-ward electoral history and political control. So, for the North Yorkshire article, if we are to be strictly correct, we ''should'' (IMO) write {{tq|North Yorkshire is a non-metropolitan county, administered by  [[North Yorkshire Council]] (a Unitary Authority). }}, especially as the NYC article correctly says {{tq|Since 2023 the council has been a unitary authority}}. Emphasis on  'the council', not the county. (The Isle of Wight probably presents a more clear-cut example but it's getting late now.)
::::::As I said before, your talk page is not where such matters are resolved. You need to decide whether it needs to be escalated to UK Geo. --[[User:JMF|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:JMF|talk]]) 00:42, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

{{ping|FeistyRooster|Dgp4004}} FYI I have opened a new discussion topic at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography#Places and their unitary authorities]], because this is probably just the first of many similar cases that will arise. --[[User:JMF|𝕁𝕄𝔽]] ([[User talk:JMF|talk]]) 17:38, 2 January 2025 (UTC) 

:Okay [[User:FeistyRooster|FeistyRooster]] ([[User talk:FeistyRooster#top|talk]]) 02:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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