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== Speedy Deletion of an NGO article ==

Hello Creffet.
Some people we think interesting to create an article of an NGO (as there are many other ones here), because the project is really beautifull and this serves to enlarge the knowledge of it (public knowledge is the aim of wikipedia). What do you think interesting to mark this article [[:Draft:The Bodhi Tree Educational Foundation]], still in draft, as Speedy Deletion? Draft version means that many people is still worknig on it.  <small> [[User:Luis7Arroyo|Luis7Arroyo]] ([[User talk:Luis7Arroyo#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Luis7Arroyo|contribs]]) 00:20, 2 November 2019 (UTC)</small>
:{{u|Luis7Arroyo}}, the tone of the page was not appropriate for an encyclopedia. Wikipedia isn't the place for an "about us" or for the organization to talk about its mission. We need [[WP:RS|reliable]], [[WP:THIRDPARTY|third-party]] sources with [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]] of the organization.  Also, if you are affiliated with the organization, it would be best if you just wait for someone unaffiliated to write the article. [[User:Creffett|creffett]] ([[User talk:Creffett#top|talk]]) 00:27, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

::{{u|Creffet}}, please specify where exactly it is said that it is forbidden on wikipedia rules that any organization could be not defined by "its mission", because I think that it is precisely the aim of this site. Moreover, it is known that third party links are needed, and that is why this article it still "Draft". Waiting for third users to link it. Little by little. But if you delete it, there are only roadblocks to the construction of public knowledge. That is why I ask you to please remove the Speedy Deletion tag. <small> [[User:Luis7Arroyo|Luis7Arroyo]] ([[User talk:Luis7Arroyo#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Luis7Arroyo|contribs]]) 00:57, 2 November 2019 (UTC)</small>
:::{{u|Luis7Arroyo}}, I didn't say an organization isn't defined by its mission, I said that this is not the place for an organization to talk about its mission. While drafts are indeed collaborative, you shouldn't rely on other people to do the work - either the third-party sources exist or they don't. Finally, you say I'm blocking public knowledge; again, if there isn't significant coverage in reliable third-party sources, then the article doesn't belong here. I'm not going to remove the speedy deletion tag, but an administrator will get the final decision about whether or not the page should be speedily deleted. [[User:Creffett|creffett]] ([[User talk:Creffett#top|talk]]) 01:13, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
== New Page Review newsletter November 2019 ==

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This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.
;Getting the queue to 0 
There are now {{NUMBERINGROUP:patroller}} holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.<br> 
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If ''each'' reviewer soon does '''only 2 reviews a day''' over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by ''every'' reviewer doing '''only 1 review every 2 days''' - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class!  Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.<br>
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Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Coordination#Awards|'''really cool awards''']].
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Admin {{U|Barkeep49}} has been officially invested as [[Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Coordination#New_Page_Review_Coordinators|NPP/NPR coordinator]] by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.
;This month's refresher course
Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: [[WP:LTA/OM|This official Wikipedia article]] will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See [[Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol#Conflict_of_Interest_(COI),_paid_editing|The Hallmarks]] to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.
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*It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
*It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
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== Administrators' newsletter – November 2019 ==

[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (October 2019).
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:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=readded|Readded]] [[Special:Permalink/919861454#Request for reinstatement (DESiegel)|DESiegel]] • [[Special:Permalink/921872334#Request_return_of_admin_rights_(GB_fan)|GB fan]] • [[Special:Permalink/919199766#Request (MSGJ)|MSGJ]] • [[Special:Permalink/923035617#Resysop request - Voice of Clam|Voice of Clam]] • [[Special:Permalink/919437002#Permissions (WilyD)|WilyD]]
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[Special:Permalink/922182705#Desysop (DeltaQuad)|DeltaQuad]] • [[Special:Permalink/918944073#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2019#October 2019|Fang Aili ]] • [[Special:Permalink/918944073#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2019#October 2019|Pakaran]]

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:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[meta:Special:Permalink/19479808#DeltaQuad@en.wikipedia|DeltaQuad]] • [[Special:Permalink/918944073#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2019#October 2019|Pakaran]]

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:* An [[Special:Permalink/919786962#Resysop_criteria:_RfC_on_principles|RfC was closed]] with the consensus that the [[WP:RESYSOP|resysop criteria]] should be made stricter.
::* The follow-up RfC to develop that change is now open at [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/2019 Resysop Criteria (2)]].
:* A [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/2019 community sentiment on binding desysop procedure|related RfC]] is seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure.

[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
:* Eligible editors may now [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2019/Candidates|nominate themselves as candidates]] for the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2019|2019 Arbitration Committee Elections]].  The self-nomination period will close November 12, with voting running from November 19 through December 2.

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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/45|Tech News: 2019-45]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/45|Translations]] are available.

'''Recent changes'''
* At [[Special:Contributions|Special:Contributions]] you could see up to 5000 edits at the same time if you edited the [[:w:en:URL|URL]]. This has been lowered to 500. This is to stop requests which break the sites. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234450]

'''Changes later this week'''
* <code>MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry</code> can set the default length to block a user for your wiki. You will be able to use <code>MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry-ip</code> to set a different default block length for IP editors. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T219126]
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/wmf.5|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 November. It will be on all wikis from 7 November ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/Roadmap|calendar]]).

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== [[Clutter family murders]] ==

I see that you have put this up for deletion as a copyright violation.  When I first created this article, some copyright violations were suspected.  However, it turns out that the suspicions were erroneous.  I forget the exact details.  But, it was something like this.  I created the article "[[Clutter family murders]]".  Some of the material for the new [[Clutter family murders]] article was taken directly from the article ''[[In Cold Blood]]''.  Someone suspected that the material was a copyright violation.  (They stated that the material for [[Clutter family murders]] '''and''' for ''[[In Cold Blood]]'' was copied from some other website.  Some other editor looked into it further.  They said that it was "reverse copyright".  They said that the website in question  -- I forget the actual website name -- actually had copied the material from Wikipedia.  I would like someone to please remove the "speedy deletion request".  I am placing a "help request" tag on the Talk Page for [[Clutter family murders]].  Thanks.    [[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]]) 06:01, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

: See [[Wikipedia:Help desk#Clutter family murders]].   Thanks.    [[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]]) 06:34, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
::{{u|Joseph A. Spadaro}}, replied at the help desk entry. <sup><small>[[User:Creffpublic|creffpublic]]</small></sup> <sub style="margin-left:-8ex"><small>a [[User:Creffett|creffett]] franchise</small></sub> ([[User_talk:Creffett|talk to the boss]]) 14:21, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

::: Thanks. [[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]]) 16:32, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
== Article recreated ==

Hello,

the headline says all. I recreated the article and I want to know what is wrong with the article. How can I show you the article?

[[User:Jicco123|Jicco123]] ([[User talk:Jicco123|talk]]) 20:06, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
:{{u|Jicco123}}, I have absolutely no idea what article you're talking about or why you're asking me to look at your version. Perhaps you've confused me with somebody else? <sup><small>[[User:Creffpublic|creffpublic]]</small></sup> <sub style="margin-left:-8ex"><small>a [[User:Creffett|creffett]] franchise</small></sub> ([[User_talk:Creffett|talk to the boss]]) 20:11, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, ViperSnake151 reported me and he said
"Their edits to Mixer have been very questionable"
Now I want to show my article. And I want to know what's wrong with the article.

[[User:Jicco123|Jicco123]] ([[User talk:Jicco123|talk]]) 20:22, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
:{{u|Jicco123}}, that's fine, but I don't really have anything to do with that dispute. <sup><small>[[User:Creffpublic|creffpublic]]</small></sup> <sub style="margin-left:-8ex"><small>a [[User:Creffett|creffett]] franchise</small></sub> ([[User_talk:Creffett|talk to the boss]]) 20:27, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
== External links removed ==
Dear Creffet,

I added a few external links which contained great in-depth interviews of biographical character to different persons. I am sure these interviews would be of great value. However, they got removed due to "inappropriate links" by you. However, under [[Wikipedia:External links|external links]] it says that "External links in biographies of living persons must be of high quality and are judged by a higher standard than for other article". Would it be better if I chose to use these as references in the Wikipedia article of the persons rather than adding it as a external links? Hope this is the right place to write this. 

[[User:Methici|Methici]] ([[User talk:Methici|talk]]) 10:26, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
:{{u|Methici}}, there's two problems. First, [[WP:BLOGS|blogs (and other self-published sources) aren't generally considered a reliable source]], and in particular, {{tq|Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people}}. Second, you appear to have a conflict of interest, since every edit you've made has involved adding links to the same organization's webpage, and per the external links policy you linked, {{tq|you should avoid linking to a site that you own, maintain, or represent}}. The policy also explicitly mentions that non-profit and for-profit organizations are held to the same standard.  [[User:Creffett|creffett]] ([[User talk:Creffett#top|talk]]) 00:58, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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:{{ping|Bobatealee}} Thank you! Please feel free to leave a note on my talk page (this page) if you have any questions. I hope you enjoy editing here! [[User:Creffett|creffett]] ([[User talk:Creffett#top|talk]]) 01:00, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

== Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 10 ==


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== [[Gregory S. Brown]] ==

Hi there, I've declined your A7 of Gregory S. Brown. As someone employed in an academic role by a major university that is, in my thinking, a [[WP:CCOS|credible claim of significance]]. Feel free to ping me or leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions. Best, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 03:59, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
:{{u|Barkeep49}}, I'm not sure I agree with that being a credible claim of significance, but I'll accept your judgment. I feel pretty confident that the subject fails NACADEMIC, so I'll consider taking it to PROD or AfD after I've done a BEFORE search (and double-checked the NACADEMIC rules). [[User:Creffett|creffett]] ([[User talk:Creffett#top|talk]]) 04:06, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
::I do error on the side of keeping for A7. In this case even if the academic piece isn't a CCOS, having at least one book published by an Academic Publisher is ''definitely'' a CCOS (and a possible source of notability beyond NACADEMIC). Best, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 04:08, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
==[[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Renamed user374765hdkfhudj]]==
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A tag has been placed on [[:Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Renamed user374765hdkfhudj]] requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under [[WP:CSD#C1|section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion]], because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a [[:Category:Disambiguation categories|disambiguation category]], a [[:Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories|category redirect]], a [[:Category:Wikipedia featured topics categories|featured topics category]], under discussion at [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion|Categories for discussion]], or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. 

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may '''contest the nomination''' by [[:Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Renamed user374765hdkfhudj|visiting the page]] and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with [[Wikipedia:List of policies|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]]. <!-- Template:Db-catempty-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> [[User:UnitedStatesian|UnitedStatesian]] ([[User talk:UnitedStatesian|talk]]) 14:09, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
== ''The Bugle'': Issue CLXIII, November 2019 ==

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Regarding {{noping|FamedOnes}}, see the deleted history of their userpage. {{;)}} [[User:Home Lander|Home Lander]] ([[User talk:Home Lander|talk]]) 21:26, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
:{{u|Home Lander}}, I'll take your word for it. [[User:Creffett|creffett]] ([[User talk:Creffett#top|talk]]) 01:30, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
== Minicom page ==
Hi !
-> one or more external links you added to Minicom have been removed because they seemed to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia :

That's why I did not add the information directly to minicom page but rather to my personal Wiki. but this information is hard to find on the internet, when people do not say that it's not possible to have user level configuration or to run as normal user, so I added it here as external link (there's no official website for this too)
And from my point of view, it is as relevant as the other links like "11.7 Using minicom and seyon" or "Pitux Minicom Floppy"

Also, I do not understand why you removed my comment about the outdated man page ?

And why did you add a broken link in place of mine ?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Nathael|Nathael]] ([[User talk:Nathael#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nathael|contribs]]) 19:15, 14 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{u|Nathael}}, per the [[WP:EL|external links policy]], {{tq|you should avoid linking to a site that you own, maintain, or represent}} - I'm sure your intentions are good, but links to your "tips" site just aren't appropriate for an encyclopedia. We also don't need warnings about the contents of links. As for broken links, I just reverted to the last version, we especially don't like people saying that a link is broken and using that as their excuse to insert a link to their own stuff. Finally, the "using minicom and seyon" link is at least somewhat useful because it's a link to a well-known and respectable publisher, but you're right about the minicom floppy link, that needs to go. <sup><small>[[User:Creffpublic|creffpublic]]</small></sup> <sub style="margin-left:-8ex"><small>a [[User:Creffett|creffett]] franchise</small></sub> ([[User_talk:Creffett|talk to the boss]]) 19:32, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Woo ... First, I did not use the fact that the link is broken as an excuse to add mine. I found a broken link and removed it. You'll notice that I made three different edits, not a single edit. I was working on my wiki and found this broken link while looking for information on the subject while writting my own page.

Then, for the information about outdated information on one link, I thought that the goal was to keep wikipedia accurate. I'll try to get the up-to-date minicom page pushed to a site dedicated to maintaining man pages like http://man7.org/ or The Linux man-pages project (https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/) and update the link once it's done.

And last, as for the link to my own page, OK, I don't know if anyone else will bother to spend time refering to this information, let Google do the job of making it accessible to others.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Nathael|Nathael]] ([[User talk:Nathael#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nathael|contribs]]) 11:46, 15 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Tagging of [[:User:Mirishehu/sandbox/Hooray Health & Protection]]==
I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on '''[[:User:Mirishehu/sandbox/Hooray Health & Protection]]'''. I do not think that '''User:Mirishehu/sandbox/Hooray Health & Protection''' fits any of the [[WP:CSD|speedy deletion criteria]]&nbsp; because '''As a plausible draft, this is specifically exempt from [[WP:CSD#U5]]'''. I request that you consider not re-tagging '''User:Mirishehu/sandbox/Hooray Health & Protection''' for speedy deletion without discussing the matter on the appropriate talk page. <!-- Template:Speedy-Warn --> [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/DESiegel|<sub>DESiegel Contribs</sub>]] 04:47, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
== Deva Holding A.S. ==

Just a friendly heads up on [[Deva Holding A.S.]]. I declined your speedy deletion request because there are plenty of claims of importance, which is a lower standard than notability. If the page needs to go, try PROD or AfD.----[[User:Fabrictramp|<span style="color: #228b22; font-family: comic sans ms;">Fabrictramp</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:Fabrictramp|<span style="color: #960018; font-family: Papyrus;">talk to me</span>]] 14:59, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

== [[Johns Creek, Georgia]] ==

Thanks for your edit to [[Johns Creek, Georgia]].  I'm not getting much discussion from other editors at [[Talk:Johns Creek, Georgia#Government section]].  If you are able to comment I'd appreciate it.  Cheers.  [[User:Magnolia677|Magnolia677]] ([[User talk:Magnolia677|talk]]) 20:38, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
== No editing was performed by me ==

I'm just replying to a message I found saying information had been deleted by me, which is not correct. I've never deleted anything from Wikipedia. I don't expect I could have done editing unintentionally, so it must be an error, I did not delete any information about Jack Mingo.

Thank-you for your consideration.

Sincerely,

S.B. Ringgold  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/73.158.213.153|73.158.213.153]] ([[User talk:73.158.213.153#top|talk]]) 05:11, 17 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:It was probably done by somebody else using the same IP, common if you're on a shared IP. Don't worry about it. [[User:Creffett|creffett]] ([[User talk:Creffett#top|talk]]) 16:55, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

== Thanks for the speedy deletion ==

Hi Creffett,
Honestly I'm an unexperienced new comer here so it will be hard for me to get the point of those rules. I apologize for my fault to bring you unnecessary addtional check and operation, but I wonder whether there to be a safer place to save my articles for future referece or improvement on this website with no regard to so-called Unambiguous advertising or promotion? I didn't expect the articles in my sandbox can easily be deleted with no notification. I mean user sandbox should be personal data, right? I do not refuse the open for admins, but I think users should have more liberty to decide what the content in their sandbox be like. Wish you can understand it's not a easy work for me to retype the article after deletion, leaving me no materials left, twice.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Adachi Sakura|Adachi Sakura]] ([[User talk:Adachi Sakura#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Adachi Sakura|contribs]]) 14:42, 17 November 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{u|Adachi Sakura}}, advertising isn't appropriate on Wikipedia regardless of where it's posted. You can ask the deleting admin to send you a copy of the article, but the tone of the article is not appropriate and will need a significant rework to not get deleted immediately. [[User:Creffett|creffett]] ([[User talk:Creffett#top|talk]]) 16:56, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
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== LOCALiQ entry ==

Hi Creffett,

I added a disclosure to my userpage as recommended. I'm an independent contractor, not anyone's employee, so feel free to lmk if I got the formatting wrong. Also, when I submitted the article I thought I disclosed my relationship in the talk page. I've never contributed for me so apologies if I missed a step or got anything wrong. I think that the point of view of the article itself is neutral, but will be happy to correct any problem areas in this respect. I also think the organization is of sufficient notability to warrant a page (mainly because it is a division of Gannett). If we need to more forward with another approach, etc., please lmk.

I look forward to hearing from you!

--[[User:Jgranden|Jgranden]] ([[User talk:Jgranden|talk]]) 16:35, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
:{{u|Jgranden}}, thanks for the message. You don't need to say that you're paying yourself - if the money is coming from LOCALiQ, then just say that you're being paid by LOCALiQ (the exact financial relationship doesn't matter, we're just concerned where the money is coming from). From a quick look at the article, the biggest problem is the lack of independent sources. Almost every source on the page is in some way affiliated with LOCALiQ (the company website, a USA Today article, a Gannett shareholder report). The mantra to remember for notability is the [[WP:GNG|general notability guideline]]: [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]] in [[WP:RS|reliable]], [[WP:INDEPENDENT|independent sources]]. Also, [[WP:INHERITORG|notability isn't inherited]] - having a notable parent doesn't make a subsidiary inherently notable. I'd suggest starting with establishing notability by finding significant external coverage - without that, there's no point in writing an article, since articles about non-notable subjects will never get published. [[User:Creffett|creffett]] ([[User talk:Creffett#top|talk]]) 01:13, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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== Secondary coverage ==

What is meant by "secondary coverage"?  I'd include it in the [[Deepin Desktop Environment]] article if I understood what the gentleman who reverted my edits meant.  Is it the same as secondary sources? --[[User:Deus omnipotens sum|Deus omnipotens sum]] ([[User talk:Deus omnipotens sum|talk]]) 04:58, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
:{{u|Deus omnipotens sum}}, yes - basically, we want articles and such with [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]] from [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] unaffiliated with DDE. <sup><small>[[User:Creffpublic|creffpublic]]</small></sup> <sub style="margin-left:-8ex"><small>a [[User:Creffett|creffett]] franchise</small></sub> ([[User_talk:Creffett|talk to the boss]]) 15:31, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
== Mount Vernon (Company)==
Hello there Creffett!

I recently constructed an article titled "Mount Vernon (Company)" that was tagged for speedy deletion & then shortly after deleted. I would first like to request that my draft page please be recovered so I can edit it further for review and appeal. I also saw the reasoning for this decision tagged as a violation of Wikipedia rules against Advertising & Self Promotion. I want to make sure that I am appropriately adhering to the guidelines for proper, unbiased reporting on articles. So far I've tried to keep the article as unbiased & objective as possible; give readers an accurate, sourced depiction of the facts regarding company operations, notable achievements in the professional field by our members and company history. Mount Vernon Co is an officially registered LLC based out of Los Angeles that operates in the music industry & like-minded business ventures; and currently has RIAA 5x platinum certified artists/producers running under the label arm as well as strong connections and documented working history with various Record Labels (Atlantic, RocNation, Interscope, Warner Chappell, Republic), Music Publishing Companys & known Public Entities (Artists, Musicians, Designers, ETC). We would like another chance to objectively establish ourselves in the public domain clearly for more people to be properly educated and aware of who we are and what we do. Also as far as having proper direct articles from third party sources. Mount Vernon Co itself is still fairly new in its formation (EST 2017) but the members who comprise the company all have distinguished accolades with legitimate sources to back the information provided. I look forward to hearing back from you, and thank you for your time! [[User:Maineywhiles|Maineywhiles]] ([[User talk:Maineywhiles|talk]]) 08:09, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
:{{u|Maineywhiles}}, thanks for the message. I see Jimfbleak left you a message already, but here's my take:
:* I'm not an administrator, so I can't recover it for you, you'll have to ask the deleting adminstrator (probably Jimfbleak)
:* You appear to have a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] with the company, and so are discouraged from writing about it.
:* If your company isn't the subject of [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]] in [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], then it isn't [[WP:NOTABILITY|sufficiently notable]] for a Wikipedia article. Please also keep in mind that [[WP:INHERITORG|notability isn't inherited]] - having notable members doesn't make an organization notable (and vice-versa)
:* In short, while I understand that you want to {{tq|objectively establish [y]ourselves in the public domain...}}, Wikipedia isn't the right place for that. Our interest is about what other people say about a company, not what the company wants to say about themselves.
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== Counter-Vandalism  ==

Hi Creffet,

So firstly, thank you for giving me another chance and supporting my unblock appeal!

I read your comment with regards to "interest in counter-vandalism" and was wondering what I can do to help out with this, I remember participating in something known as "CUVA" but seeing as it's been a while I'm not sure if new information cropped up since then. I also found this tool on my account that helps in rolling back vandal actions labelled as "TW" which I think helped massively back then. 

Looking forward to hearing from you. [[User:MikeTheEditor104|MikeTheEditor104]] ([[User talk:MikeTheEditor104|talk]]) 12:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
:{{u|MikeTheEditor104}}, welcome back! I wasn't around in 2015, so I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty confident things have changed in the meantime. I think the program you're referring to is [[WP:CVUA]], and I'd recommend taking another run through it as a refresher. I'd offer to mentor you through it, but, uh, I never actually went through it myself, I mostly self-taught. The "TW" tool you see is [[WP:TWINKLE]], and it's a great tool - it gives you a rollback-like capability, the ability to quickly leave welcome and warning messages on user talk pages (so if you see someone vandalizing, you can leave them a vandalism warning). Anyway, if you want to get started, I highly recommend starting out with the [[WP:RCP|recent changes patrol]] -- it's a good way to catch vandalism early. Again, if you ever have questions while doing these things, you're always welcome to post on my talk page. Probably the most important lesson I've learned on Wikipedia: if you're not sure about something, step back and ask for help, very few things around here are so time-critical that you can't take the time to ask for a second opinion. <sup><small>[[User:Creffpublic|creffpublic]]</small></sup> <sub style="margin-left:-8ex"><small>a [[User:Creffett|creffett]] franchise</small></sub> ([[User_talk:Creffett|talk to the boss]]) 14:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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== NARU Academy Info Page ==

Hi Creffett,

The NARU Academy information page was requested for speedy deletion (and was done as such). The reason cited was [[Wikipedia:A7|A7]] regarding no indication of importance. However, the reason why I was providing information on NARU Academy is because of their activism regarding female and overall equality in sports, which was stated in the description I gave about the company. To elaborate on one of the camps provided on the page, the FC Barcelona Girl's Camp was the first female soccer camp offered by the FC Barcelona club team and was very influential for my daughter and her club team. Please, explain how I did not explain the importance of this company and its historical significance to Wikipedia. In addition, if you still feel that the content should not be on Wikipedia as is, I am interested in hearing your suggestions and amending the page.

Thank you.

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:Hi {{u|Cameron.Sherry1}}, thanks for the message. I can't see the page anymore since it's now-deleted, but I most likely tagged it because it didn't establish [[WP:N|notability]] in the Wikipedia way - by showing [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]] in [[WP:INDEPENDENT|independent]] [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. If you can find sources external to the organization which talk about it and its activism, then by all means that's a reasonable claim of significance. You can contact the administrator who deleted the page to get a copy of it if you have sources like that and you'd like to try again. [[User:Creffett|creffett]] ([[User talk:Creffett#top|talk]]) 13:57, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

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== Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 11 ==


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News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (November 2019).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 11th issue of the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Scripts++|Scripts++ Newsletter]]:

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[[File:Farm-Fresh scripts text.png|20px|alt=Scripts]] '''Scripts''' <small>Submit your new/improved script [[Wikipedia talk:Scripts++|here]]</small>
:[[File:Cscr-featured.svg|20px|alt=Featured script|This month's featured script]] [[User:Enterprisey/reply-link|Enterprisey's reply-link]]

:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=New scripts|New]] [[User:Evad37/Thanky|Evad37's Thanky]]{{*}} [[User:SuperHamster/CiteUnseen.js|SuperHamster's CiteUnseen]]{{*}} [[User:Mattflaschen/Compare link.js|Mattflaschen's Compare link.js]]
:: [[User:Enterprisey|Enterprisey]]: [[User:Enterprisey/diff-context|diff-context]]{{*}} [[User:Enterprisey/fancy-diffs|fancy-diffs]]{{*}} [[User:Enterprisey/offset-history-link|offset-history-link]]
:: [[User:BrandonXLF|BrandonXLF]]: [[User:BrandonXLF/NoRedirect|NoRedirect]]{{*}} [[User:BrandonXLF/WatchDoc|WatchDoc]]{{*}} [[User:BrandonXLF/HotDefaultSort|HotDefaultSort]]{{*}} [[User:BrandonXLF/TodoList|TodoList]]

:[[File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg|20px|alt=Updated scripts|Updated]] [[Wikipedia:Twinkle|Twinkle]] has received multiple updates
:: [[User:Evad37/rater|Evad37's rater]] is now at version 2; see the announcement [[Special:Permalink/928311215#New version of Rater! Beta tester wanted!|here]]

[[File:Ambox important.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Open tasks'''
* For those who haven't noticed, per [[phabricator:T234576]], using <code>editToken</code> instead of <code>csrfToken</code> no longer works

[[File:Info Simple bw.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Miscellaneous'''
* Following [[Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 177#XFDcloser gadget?|a discussion]], [[Wikipedia:XFDcloser|XFDcloser]] is now available as a gadget
* [[User:Evad37|Evad37]]'s [[User:Evad37/extra.js|extra.js collection of helper functions]] is now available as [[MediaWiki:Gadget-libExtraUtil.js]]
* [[Wikipedia:Twinkle|Twinkle]]'s [[MediaWiki:Gadget-morebits.js|morebits]] is now a gadget, and is easier to use in as a dependency in other scripts (see [[Special:Permalink/926745838#Hidden gadgets|here]] for more)
* Last month's issue misidentified the creator of the new [[User:Evad37/EditWarChecker|EditWarChecker]] script; it was created by [[User:Evad37|Evad37]]
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* [[Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests#TFD holding cell: button to mark template as ready for deletion|A button to mark templates in the TfD holding cell as ready for deletion]]
* ...and many more, all available at [[Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests]]

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