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== Stockholm ==

I just figured it was an American film, it may in fact be Canadian. [[User:Vincelord|Vincelord]] ([[User talk:Vincelord|talk]]) 14:07, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
* A reply to [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Vincelord&diff=914072170&oldid=911853191 this]...  <p>Sigh more cultural imperialism...  [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan#top|talk]]) 14:10, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

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== New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019 ==

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== 100,000th edit! ==

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== Fram ==

I think you should stop pestering {{u|Fram}}. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 17:35, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

== Fram's talk page ==

As Fram has made it clear he isn't interested in your advice or admonishments, and has removed your attempts to leave such commentary on his talk page multiple times, I advise you to cease such attempts, lest you be found guilty of harassment. There is no need to post on Fram's talk page offering broad criticism or advice; should you require dispute resolution, keep it to the article or project talk pages, please. [[User:KillerChihuahua|Killer]][[User talk:KillerChihuahua|<span style="color: #415651;">Chihuahua</span>]] 17:59, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
: Policy requires us to inform people when we discuss their contributions and comments at WPANI, and other venues.  I've found it unpleasant when I have seen people discussing me, and not informing me.  That's why I left [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fram&diff=917822648&oldid=917822576 the heads-up], that I addressed your question on your talk page.  
: Note, the face value of Fram's edit summary [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fram&diff=917786750&oldid=917785279 ''"Now try it without the personal attacks"''] is an implied invitation to try again.  [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan#top|talk]]) 18:41, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
::Policy does NOT require you harass other editors. Full stop. Just stop talking about, and to, Fram. Easy peasy. Do something else. [[User:KillerChihuahua|Killer]][[User talk:KillerChihuahua|<span style="color: #415651;">Chihuahua</span>]] 20:14, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

* {{U|KillerChihuahua}}, in [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:KillerChihuahua&diff=next&oldid=917823641 this comment] you wrote ''"as it is you're hardly in a position to '''<nowiki>[[Tu quoque|cast aspersions]]</nowiki>'''."'' Sorry, I didn't study Latin, and I am not sure what you mean.  [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan#top|talk]]) 20:09, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
::[[Tu quoque]] was linked. Follow the link, and the article has all the information on the term you might need. [[User:KillerChihuahua|Killer]][[User talk:KillerChihuahua|<span style="color: #415651;">Chihuahua</span>]] 20:11, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
::Or even simpler, read what I used as the piped text - cast aspersions. Don't cast aspersions. [[User:KillerChihuahua|Killer]][[User talk:KillerChihuahua|<span style="color: #415651;">Chihuahua</span>]] 20:13, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
::* {{U|KillerChihuahua}}, isn't it a little more complicated than that?  Did you '''''mean''''' to imply you think there is something wrong with my record of comments on talk pages, and other fora?  If you didn't mean that, let's forget it.  
::* Alternatively, maybe you do think my comment record is problematic, but you lack the time, or patience, or interest, to explain yourself?
::* I wrote an essay [[User:Geo Swan/opinions/Teachable moments|Every question, every disagreement, is a teachable moment]]  Short version: the people who question us, challenge us, won't learn if we don't explain ourselves, and, sometimes, while offering them that explanation, we may realize they had a valid point, after all.  I hope you take the time to read it.  [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan#top|talk]]) 20:29, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
* I think Fram's made it clear he doesn't want your advice or comments on his talk page. Don't persist in posting there, that's harassment. Don't talk about Fram if you can avoid it; that way you won't need to notify him (or not) that you're talking about him. Find something else to do. Because yes, there is something very wrong with your posting multiple times on his talk page when you know your input is not wanted there. It's harassment, and that's not acceptable. I don't know how to make it any more clear.  [[User:KillerChihuahua|Killer]][[User talk:KillerChihuahua|<span style="color: #415651;">Chihuahua</span>]] 20:34, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
** (sigh) I am cutting and pasting what I wrote, above: ''"Note, the face value of Fram's edit summary [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fram&diff=917786750&oldid=917785279 ''"Now try it without the personal attacks"''] is an implied invitation to try again."''  If we ever interact again could you please confine your comments to the English language?   [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan#top|talk]]) 22:18, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
*** Sigh all you like. Fram's edit summary has no bearing on whether you get to harass Fram. [[User:KillerChihuahua|Killer]][[User talk:KillerChihuahua|<span style="color: #415651;">Chihuahua</span>]] 23:28, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

==Leacock==
Just for the record, articles are not improved by adding the awarding organization's own [[WP:SELFPUB|self-published]] press release about itself as duplicate referencing for a fact that already has a proper notability-supporting media citation to support it. 

Firstly, no fact in an article ever needs multiple sources to reverify it; each statement only needs ''one'' footnote that properly supports it, and if you want to add any additional references you need to either find a fact in the article that is supported by the source but has no footnote for it ''at all'' yet, or add new facts that are supported by the source but not reflected in the article at all — adding a new source that just reverifies facts that already have sources, without adding anything new, is not adding value to the article.

And secondly, even when it comes to sourcing the basic fact of the award win itself, the award organization's own [[WP:SELFPUB|self-published]] press release is automatically the ''least'' valuable or notability-assisting source you can add to an article, because it doesn't represent independent reportage of the fact in an unaffiliated source. Writers aren't automatically notable because they've won just any literary award that exists — an award has to get media coverage ''about the award'' before it even counts as a notability-making award at all, so the award's own press release is never even a notability-clinching source in the first place. 

The press release simply has no value at all as a source in its own right. It doesn't add anything on notability grounds, because the press release ''wouldn't'' have singlehandedly clinched Cathal Kelly's notability ''at all'' if the fact had not been picked up by any real media as a news story — and it doesn't add anything on verifiability grounds either, because the article already has a proper notability-supporting source for his award win and doesn't need a second source to redundantly reverify the same fact. It's simply not needed, for any reason at all. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 14:33, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
* I think this is in reference to [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Cathal_Kelly&diff=918402356&oldid=912814219 this edit] I made to [[Cathal Kelly]], that was started in June.  I started a draft, [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:Geo_Swan/Cathal_Kelly&action=history in April].  I added  a reference my draft used, that wasn't used in the article, before I retired it.  [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan#top|talk]]) 16:28, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

== AfroCine: Join the Months of African Cinema this October! ==

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Greetings!

After a successful [[Wikipedia:WikiProject AfroCine/Months of African Cinema/2018|first iteration of the “Months of African Cinema” last year]], we are happy to announce that it will be happening again this year, starting from October 1! In the 2018 edition of the contest, about 600 Wikipedia articles were created in at least 8 languages. There were also contributions to Wikidata and Wikimedia commons, which brought the total number of wikimedia pages created during the contest to over 1,000.

[[Wikipedia:WikiProject AfroCine|The AfroCine Project]] welcomes you to October, the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject AfroCine/Months of African Cinema|first out of the two months which have been dedicated to creating and improving content]] that centre around the cinema of Africa, the Caribbean, and the diaspora. Join us in this global edit-a-thon, by helping to create or expand articles which are connected to this scope. Also remember to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject AfroCine/Months of African Cinema#Participants|list your name under the participants section]].

On English Wikipedia, we would be recognizing participants in the following manner:

*'''''Overall winner''''' (1st, 2nd, 3rd places)
*'''''Diversity winner'''''
*'''''Gender-gap fillers'''''

For further information about the contest, the recognition categories and how to participate, please visit the contest page [[Wikipedia:WikiProject AfroCine/Months of African Cinema|here]]. For further inquiries, please leave comments on the contest talkpage or on the main project talkpage. See you around :).--[[User:Jamie Tubers|Jamie Tubers]] ([[User talk:Jamie Tubers#top|talk]]) 00:50, 30 September 2019 (UTC)}}
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