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== Question ==

Did you put your comment [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reassertion_of_British_sovereignty_over_the_Falkland_Islands_(1833)&diff=prev&oldid=934620772] on the wrong thread at [[Talk:Reassertion of British sovereignty over the Falkland Islands (1833)]]? <span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Wee Curry Monster|W]][[Special:contributions/Wee Curry Monster|C]][[User talk:Wee Curry Monster|M]]</span><sub>[[Special:EmailUser/Wee Curry Monster|email]]</sub> 16:53, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
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== The Armorer ==

I saw that you moved [[The Armorer]] to its new title from [[The Armorer (Star Wars)]]. Makes sense, thanks for doing so. Not sure if you do GA reviews or not, but FYI, that article (as well as a handful of other ''Mandalorian'' character articles, is currently nominated for good article at [[WP:GAN]], if you're interested in giving it a review... — [[User:Hunter Kahn|<b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b>]] [[User talk:Hunter Kahn|<b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b>]] 18:38, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

== Question ==

Would it be inappropriate, in your view, to note in the "China Virus" redirect that epidemiologists in the CDC and WHO [https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/486920-cdc-chief-says-its-wrong-to-call-covid-19-a-chinese-virus][https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-china-wuhan-republicans-e9c2cd35-c5bb-42df-9e30-94364548d1fb.html] have stated that SARS-CoV-2 should not be referred to as "China virus," and that scientists don't use this term either [https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-0695-z]? -[[User:Darouet|Darouet]] ([[User talk:Darouet|talk]]) 14:09, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
:In a disambiguation page? Yes, it would be inappropriate. In an article? Totally appropriate, and could be then added as an entry to the disambiguation page. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 14:22, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
::Or the disambiguation page could be repurposed as an article on the phrase, its usage and recommended non-usage. I put a comment in the dab to that effect. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 14:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

== Panic Room ==

Hello, regarding your edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Panic_Room&curid=450141&diff=948144714&oldid=941786645 here], you added {{code|&nbsp;}} to numbers that already had the {{tl|nowrap}} template. That seems redundant. What do you think? [[User:Erik|Erik]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Erik|talk]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) <sup>([[Template:Reply to|ping me]])</sup> 17:32, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
:Yeah, those are redundant; I try to catch them, but missed. Note that not all of the nbsps were redundant. Thanks! -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 18:30, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
::I had just wanted to confirm with you if I should be using one approach or the other or if either were fine. Thanks for addressing additional items. [[User:Erik|Erik]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Erik|talk]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) <sup>([[Template:Reply to|ping me]])</sup> 20:41, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

== Guti RM ==

Hi there - there was no consensus for this close. The nominator wanted a move, one other editor (me) opposed it. Please revert and re-list. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 18:02, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
:Your oppose gave no supporting policy, guideline, or evidence, while the nominator did, and pageviews are a primary topic criterion, as noted in the close. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 18:29, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

==Go Transit==
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== Order of short description and whatnot ==

I noticed that [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Bobby_Mitchell&diff=prev&oldid=949591368 your edit] at [[Bobby Mitchell]] moved the hatnote first, but it's contrary to [[MOS:ORDER]] saying the short description should be on top. Is there a particular reason?  Regards.—[[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] ([[User talk:Bagumba|talk]]) 12:00, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
:Ah, it seems [[WP:AWB]] has not caught up with short description order. I'll post to its talkpage, and check that part of any further edits I make with it. Thanks! -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 12:02, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
::Looks like it'll be fixed in the next release, so I just need to watch for it until then. [[Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs#MOS:ORDER]]. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 12:04, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

== Minor adjustment to AWB script? ==

Thanks for your [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Tyler,_Texas&diff=next&oldid=949346687 edit to clean up references] at [[Tyler, Texas]]. If you are using a custom script to replace Special:BookSources links, can you please adjust it to remove the extraneous {{tag|bdi}} tags, [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Tyler%2C_Texas&type=revision&diff=949697799&oldid=949352698 like this]? If you are unable to do that, no big deal. Thanks. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 00:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
:Thanks! But it would be difficult to determine which bdi tags are needed and which aren't. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 11:18, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

== Noongar RM ==
Hi! Would you mind reconsidering the close of the RM at [[Talk:Noongar (disambiguation)]]? I would generally expect an RM with a single "oppose" to get relisted in the first instance, and especially wouldn't expect it to be closed straight away  if this oppose is apparently based at least in part on a misunderstanding of the scope and purpose of one the articles concerned. – [[User talk:Uanfala|Uanfala (talk)]] 12:53, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
:{{done}}

== [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Fulham_Pottery&type=revision&diff=950897970&oldid=949996985 Your latest unbelievably stupid edit] ==

..which of course I have reverted. Your editing is not of a sufficiently high standard for you to go messing about with stuff that's just about to go on the main page in this way. Often your damaging edits won't be spotted in time.  Didn't you even look at the picture????  You can't, surely, think [[WP:THE]] has any bearing here, other than the article not using "the" in the title?  It is either "Fulham Pottery"  or "The Fulham Pottery"; one is right and the other wrong, and ''you didn't bother to find out which''.  I'll have to keep an eye on your edits if you are doing a lot of main page goalmouth hanging. Or are you just stalking me now? [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 17:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
:"Bottle Kiln at Fulham Pottery (1079795)" [https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1079795]
:"Green, Chris M., John Dwight's Fulham Pottery: Excavations 1971–79" 
:Didn't you even look at the sources???? You can't, surely, think you [[WP:OWN]] the article. I'll have to keep an eye on your edits if your editing doesn't get up to a high enough standard. Or are you just stalking me now?
:I've been main-page watching for a long time. Don't flatter yourself. And stop being a dick. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 18:29, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

== [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jacques_Blamont&diff=951091757&oldid=951079864 This edit] to [[Jacques Blamont]] ==

Just wanted to let you know that you accidentally removed the "see also" section entirely in this edit, presumably since you had just edited it and AWB apparently didn't know how to react to it. It's been fixed now. [[User:Ionmars10|Ionmars10]] ([[User talk:Ionmars10|talk]]) 16:28, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
:I removed it intentionally because it was empty after removing all of the links that were already in the body text. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 17:11, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
:: Ah, okay. Just looked like a mistake at first, cause I wasn't sure what you meant by "clean up." Thanks. [[User:Ionmars10|Ionmars10]] ([[User talk:Ionmars10|talk]]) 17:27, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

=="Perfect" RM==
[[Talk:Perfect#Requested_move_14_April_2020]]

There was clearly no concensus for this move - with 2 supports and 2 opposes.  Your rationale for the close reads more like a [[WP:SUPERVOTE]].  Reopen, and relist for more input. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 03:08, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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[[Talk:Madman#Requested_move_14_April_2020]]

Likewise, this one has 2 opposes and only 1 support. Again, your rationale is a SUPERVOTE because it introduces a new argument to the discussion not raised by anyone else. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 03:16, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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[[Talk:John_Conway_(disambiguation)#Requested_move_14_April_2020]]

3 oppose and only 2 support.  This is very concerning. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 03:25, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:Please see [[WP:NOTVOTE]] (and if trying to lobby for a simple vote, remember to count the OP in with the supports). And please re-read [[WP:SUPERVOTE]], which these were not. The supports had the backing of policy and guidelines, as mentioned in the closes. Investigating the claims made and describing how reality bore them out is not introducing new arguments. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 11:13, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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== Callaghan MacCarty, 3rd Earl of Clancarty ==

Dear JHunterJ: Thank you very much for your corrections on the article [[Callaghan MacCarty, 3rd Earl of Clancarty]]. I wonder whether you know that user CaptainEek submitted this article for DYK and whether your corrections are done in this context. I have written much of the content. I am still a novice and am grateful to CaptainEek for his initiative. I would not have thought of this possibility. Please allow me to chat with you about some details. I always learn something at such occasions. The year of birth is simply my guess and very poorly constrained. That is why I did not want to show it on the lede. I gave only the year of death (1676) and left the date (22 November) for the corresponding section in the body. MOS:LEADBIO says one can do so. In the lede I said "younger" son because an aristocratic family would never destine the eldest son to a religious career. I always say "the subject of this article" in the list of siblings, but the more I think about it, the more I see your point. I think I will remove this phrase from all the article where I have added such lists. Thanks you very much again for your efforts. [[User:Johannes Schade|Johannes Schade]] ([[User talk:Johannes Schade|talk]]) 14:44, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
:I did come across the article because it showed up in the DYK queue. I see your point about the birth year; I've made a tweak to the lede. I took out the "younger" because it's impossible to be born an older son. :-) -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 14:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks a lot![[User:Johannes Schade|Johannes Schade]] ([[User talk:Johannes Schade|talk]]) 19:42, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

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== Dis sayin ... ==

[[Talk:Alabama#You're_welcome]] --[[User:Brogo13|Brogo13]] ([[User talk:Brogo13|talk]]) 14:05, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
:Hi. What? -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 14:17, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
:[[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Coronavirus_disease_2019&type=revision&diff=955379857&oldid=955373563 Exactly.]] --[[User:Brogo13|Brogo13]] ([[User talk:Brogo13|talk]]) 15:42, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

== MOS:NUMERAL ==

Please stop removing <code>&amp;nbsp;</code>s from numbers, like in <code>6&amp;nbsp;million</code>.  This is contrary to guidelines at [[MOS:NUMERAL]], and it especially shouldn't be done with automated tools like AWB. Thanks, &ndash;[[User:Deacon Vorbis|Deacon Vorbis]]&nbsp;([[User Talk:Deacon Vorbis|carbon]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Deacon Vorbis|videos]]) 13:41, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
:Can you give me a diff? I've been adding nbsps to numbers with millions using AWB. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 13:45, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
::Jeez, I'm an idiot who can't read diffs correctly apparently. Never mind, sorry {{frown}} &ndash;[[User:Deacon Vorbis|Deacon Vorbis]]&nbsp;([[User Talk:Deacon Vorbis|carbon]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Deacon Vorbis|videos]]) 13:48, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Cheers! -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 13:49, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

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== "Robert Peters (Playwright)" ==
I honestly think his title after his name should be (Poet and Literary Critic) because he is notably known for this description as a writer whereas his notability as a playwright is less notable.  I tried to amend this but I found it to be very difficult to make this change.  I understand the (disambugity) distinction but the means to get to right course of action to revised his title way too convuluted for me and I hope you set this revision right. thank you for all your illustrious effort with wikipedia  [[User:Pjt48|Pjt48]] ([[User talk:Pjt48|talk]]) 15:07, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
:I have no objections (or any real input). Suggest using [[Talk:Robert Peters (playwright)]] with a new section. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 17:25, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

== Silly edit war ==
:''Me to Francis Schonken at their talk page''
Please read [[WP:MOSDAB]] before calling things you don't understand "nonsense".[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Triple_Concerto_No._2&diff=957019471&oldid=957009755] -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ|talk]]) 23:23, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:''Their continuation here after reverting that''
Please stop your silly edit war at [[Triple Concerto No. 2]]. Dab pages need to be helpful, and you've made that one considerably less helpful, advocating rules you seemingly don't even begin to understand. --[[User:Francis Schonken|Francis Schonken]] ([[User talk:Francis Schonken|talk]]) 03:23, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
:Please stop calling the kettle black. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 16:29, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

== Your recent University of Chicago page edit ==
Hello there! I think you made a mistake in your most recent edit on the University of Chicago Wikipedia page; you de-capitalized the word “college”, however those instances were referring to “the College” at the university, which is different than the word “college”. See https://college.uchicago.edu/home for your reference. Please fix this when you have a moment. Thanks! —- [[User:Abstrex|Abstrex]]

:Is there a secondary reference for it? Regardless, no objection to a revert if you want to undo that part of the edit. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 02:01, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

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== Carceri Nuove ==

Hallo

can you please move the article back to its original name? Thanks, [[User:Alessandro57|Alex2006]] ([[User talk:Alessandro57|talk]]) 13:47, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
:See [[WP:PRECISION]] -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 13:50, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
::Unfortunately this is not the only notable building with this name in Italy, and this is the reason why I added the name of the city. So, please put the original name of the article, thanks. [[User:Alessandro57|Alex2006]] ([[User talk:Alessandro57|talk]]) 13:55, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
:::What is the ambiguous topic covered in English Wikipedia? I see the Italian Wikipedia has an ambiguous topic, but it has no interwiki link to English, so there's not yet any need to disambiguate it. When there is, we can. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 13:58, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
::::OK, when someone will write an article about the jail in Turin, you are reserved to move it back! ;-) [[User:Alessandro57|Alex2006]] ([[User talk:Alessandro57|talk]]) 14:04, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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== Sentence Spacing ==

Hi, JHunterJ

the first time I reverted you for this I did [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Pavel_Schilling&diff=prev&oldid=957992578 make an effort to restore] what I thought were the more useful parts of your edit.  I didn't really see why I should continue to do that if you were not going to stop making the edits I objected to.  I really don't understand why you are so determined to remove sentence double spacing.  It is unnecessary to remove it and harmless to leave it be. [[User:Spinningspark|<b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b>]][[User talk:Spinningspark|<b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b>]] 12:45, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
:You don't see why you shouldn't revert improvements to the encyclopedia in edits just because you object to a different part of the edit? I can't explain that misunderstanding; this is a collaborative effort, and it should go without saying that undoing improvements is bad.
:Your rationale for keeping unnecessary double spacing was [[WP:STYLEVAR]]. OK, that's a stretch, but OK. But "Style and formatting should be consistent within an article." ([[WP:MOS]]). So if we're going with STYLEVAR for two spaces or one, then yes, it should be consistent, and so it's unnecessary for you to revert that improvement and harmless to leave it be. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 12:58, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

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== "moved without discussion" ==

I get that you're trying to close a tricky discussion, but I would appreciate it if you had dug into the history a little more before saying what you did [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2020_May_21#Jammu_and_Kashmir here]. I moved the page because, after the Indian government turned the erstwhile state into a union territory, the title [[Jammu and Kashmir]] was becoming a hopeless amalgam of material about two distinct entities. I moved it to allow the titles to remain separate. There was also substantive discussion on the talk page, ''and'' I stated explicitly that the eventual title and the status of the redirect needed discussion. Your closure statement, as it stands, comes close to accusing me of tool misuse, without giving me a chance to respond. <span style="font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Vanamonde93|Vanamonde]] ([[User Talk:Vanamonde93|Talk]])</span> 17:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
:I attempted that clarification. Let me know if that works. Cheers! -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 17:31, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
::Oh what a mess this is going to become! JHunterJ, it's a bit of stretch to override all past discussions with a simple appeal to [[WP:PRECISION]] (as though none of the participants there knew of the basics of article naming). I'm not going to be challenging your close (I don't have the patience for that), so don't feel the need to reply, but you should be aware that if you make a very bold close to an under-attended little RfD discussion on a topic that has been extensively debated elsewhere, you're not making things better at all. – [[User talk:Uanfala|Uanfala (talk)]] 18:12, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
:::There was absolutely nothing bold about that close. If there's a primary topic, that article needs to be moved to the base name. If there's not, it needs to be a disambiguation page. RfD was not the place for that discussion; which is why there was no prejudice against actually moving the appropriate article to the base name if that's what needs to happen. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 18:16, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
::::If you can't see why it's a bold action to wade into a complex matter and shut off discussion with a supervote brandishing a rule that's nothing but a technicality, then I can't help you. – [[User talk:Uanfala|Uanfala (talk)]] 18:21, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::Under-attended little RfD. Shut off discussion. Supervote. Brandishing a rule. Nothing but a technicality. No, you cannot help me until you understand those terms. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 18:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
*Marginally better, I suppose, but I think you're still kind of missing the bigger picture here; the actions were made to prevent disruption, and to allow the necessary consensus building to occur; that it never did can hardly be laid on my shoulders. <span style="font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Vanamonde93|Vanamonde]] ([[User Talk:Vanamonde93|Talk]])</span> 19:35, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

== SLS launch cost ==
{{Ping|JHunterJ}} Hi, I would like to solicit your input on a debate around the [[Space Launch System|launch cost of the SLS rocket]].

Jadebenn made an edit here : https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Space_Launch_System&diff=929316586&oldid=929241314

And since no one challenged his edit at the time he now considers it a consensus and refuses to revert back to old (and most importantely real) figures.

He refuses to debate my argument therefore I solicit your input into this.

Thanks - [[User:Moamem|Moamem]] ([[User talk:Moamem|talk]]) 04:29, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
:See [[WP:Dispute resolution]]. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 11:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

== NotBuro request ==

I found you on the recently active admins tool. I was wondering if it was possible for you or another admin to perform a [[WP:NOTBURO]] closure at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Floyd]]. Discussion seems to have come to a conclusion and it would probably better if we didn’t have to wait a week for the discussion to be closed. [[User:Bait30|<span style='color: #ffffff;background-color: #bf5700;'><b>&nbsp;Bait30&nbsp;</b></span>]]&nbsp;[[User Talk:Bait30|<sup><span style='color: #ffffff;background-color: #bf5700;'><b>''Talk 2 me pls''?</b></span></sup>]] 18:17, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
:{{done}} -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 18:38, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

:::Hope that I'm doing this in the correct manner. I was just at the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:George_Floyd page. I'm an unexperienced editor. I went to the Teahouse to ask about the delete tag above the [[George Floyd]] talk page. The editors at the Teahouse sent me back to the talk page, and I entered a topic to ask what to do about the delete tag with the heading - ''This article was nominated for deletion on 31 May 2020. The result of the discussion was redirect to Death of George Floyd.'' <br>Screenshot: https://i.postimg.cc/jd2Dh8PS/2020-07-21-1452-56-Screenshot.png
:::The answer was this:  <br>
::::That discussion (back in May) was about different page content. The current page George Floyd was created on 5 June 2020, after that earlier discussion. There is no consensus to move or delete the current George Floyd page. [[user:WWGB]] (talk) 02:22, 22 July 2020 (UTC)<br>
:::As per [[user:WWGB]], I have deleted the tag asking for the [[George Floyd]] page to be deleted. <br>Let me know what I did or didn't do properly. Thanks in advance. Keep up the good work.  בס״ד  [[Special:Contributions/172.250.237.36|172.250.237.36]] ([[User talk:172.250.237.36|talk]]) 02:53, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
::::No issues with that sequence of edit events that I can see. Cheers! -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 13:27, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

== Presidential dollar coins ==

"Presidential" in Presidential dollar coins is a proper noun as it is the name of a series of coins.  Such names are always capitalized when referring to the coins, for example, "Standing Liberty" in [[Standing Liberty quarter]] should always be capitalized.  There are almost no exceptions to this rule in [[numismatics]]. - [[User:ZLEA|<b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b>]] <sub>[[User talk:ZLEA|<b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b>]]</sub><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><sup>[[Special:Contributions/ZLEA|<b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b>]]</sup> 15:24, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
:I will say thank you for bringing my attention to similar errors on the [[Presidential dollar coins]] article, though. - [[User:ZLEA|<b style="color:#6B8E23">ZLEA</b>]] <sub>[[User talk:ZLEA|<b style="color:#6B8E23">T</b>]]</sub><b style="color:#6B8E23">\</b><sup>[[Special:Contributions/ZLEA|<b style="color:#6B8E23">C</b>]]</sup> 15:31, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

==Disambiguation link notification for June 9==

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== Listgap ==

I {{diff|Wikipedia_talk:Short_description|prev|961781898|read}} that unwanted blank lines have been inserted on your behalf.  I have a similar [[phab:T253428|problem]] with AWB.  I wonder if they may be related. [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes|talk]]) 12:04, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

== AWB broke a citation ==

[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Royal_Navy&diff=963062455&oldid=962330830 This AWB edit] on [[Royal Navy]] removed a section of on an url in a citation. I'm not sure why? I presume that wasn't the intention? I've fixed the link now but might be worth checking to make sure you haven't done anything similar on other articles. [[User:Woody|Woody]] ([[User talk:Woody|talk]]) 19:13, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
:Ugh, thanks. Looks like I just fat-fingered something in the interface -- user error. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 19:16, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
::No worries, happens to all of us! [[User:Woody|Woody]] ([[User talk:Woody|talk]]) 19:27, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

== William Ives ==

On the DAB page [[William Ives]], you changed <code>[[William Ive (disambiguation)]]</code> to <code>[[William Ive]], English politician who sat in the House of Commons in 1624</code>. I'm not sure why you chose that William Ives over the DAB link, but I have changed it back to [[William Ive (disambiguation)]]. If that is a problem, please let me know. [[User:Leschnei|Leschnei]] ([[User talk:Leschnei|talk]]) 13:07, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
:Because [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=William_Ive&oldid=960877110 at the time the dab page wasn't useful.] Thanks! -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 13:09, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
:: Oh, I see! thanks for the explanation. [[User:Leschnei|Leschnei]] ([[User talk:Leschnei|talk]]) 23:58, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

== Round Top ==

I'm confused by your move in which you moved the dab page to [[Round Top (disambiguation)]] and moved the Contra Costa County peak to [[Round Top]]. There isn't any overwhelmingly clear PRIMARYTOPIC for the name Round Top, and even if there is, it's the small town in Texas, not the Contra Costa peak. [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=wikilinks&range=all-time&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&target=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_Top_(disambiguation) The Contra Costa peak is 4th place in pageviews, out of all the articles linked from the dab]. <span style="letter-spacing:-2px">&minus;&minus;&minus;</span> [[User:CactusJack|Cactus]]&nbsp;[[User talk:CactusJack|Jack 🌵]] 03:48, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
:I didn't move the disambiguation page. I reverted your move of the Contra Costa page that resulted in WP:MALPLACED dab page (per [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Round_Top&action=history the edit summary]). To change from the primary topic to no primary topic, use [[WP:RM]] to move the disambiguation page to the base name. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 11:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

== Commas ==

Would you show me where in Fowler, Gowers or other reputable BrE style guide your prescription "don't use a comma in a list of two prepositional phrases" is mentioned? Looks like an AmE superstition to me. I haven't met it in English usage. '''<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">[[User:Tim riley|<span style="color:# 660066">Tim riley</span>]][[User talk:Tim riley|<span style="color:#848484"> talk</span>]]</span>''' 14:04, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
:Can you show me in them where is specifies using a comma in a list of two? Neither BrE nor AmE do that, AFAIK. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 14:08, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
:''relocated to [[Talk:Osbert Lancaster]], where it should have been.''

== hatnote doesn't cover all items ==

There were four things in the disambiguation page: [[Human penis size]], [[Micropenis]], [[Small penis humiliation]], or [[Small penis rule]]. Also six said to keep it, 2 said redirect, and one made a redirect joke about the president.  I believe consensus was since there are four things in the article, it works best as a disambiguation page instead of a simple hatnote which would eliminate half the entries.  [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 16:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
:The last two are indeed partial title matches, as mentioned in the discussion. The keeps were advocating for the navigation function, not the lack of primary topic. The hatnote works for that (and correctly avoids the partial title matches). -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 11:35, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

== Mount Washington ==

Good morning. Thank you for closing the Mount Washington move request. I saw that you moved the DAB page, but didn't move [[Mount Washington (New Hampshire)]] to [[Mount Washington]]. I tried completing it myself, but I couldn't. '''<span style="border: 1px #8C001A solid;background:#8C001A">[[User talk:Calidum|<span style="color: #FFFDD0;">Calidum</span>]]</span>''' 13:35, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
:Thanks! I got distracted cleaning up the dab. Finished! -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 13:40, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

==Linking==
I think it is [[Charles Street, Mayfair|Charles Street]], Mayfair, not [[Charles Street, Mayfair]] because Mayfair in this context is a disambiguator, not part of the proper name of the place. Same goes for Garston and others. [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 12:13, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

==Oldenburg==
When you moved [[Oldenburg]] to [[Oldenburg (city)]] and [[Oldenburg (disambiguation)]] to [[Oldenburg]], you may have overlooked [[WP:FIXDABLINKS]]. The change broke 960 links (5% of the current bad links to DAB pages), which will have to be fixed manually. [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 13:39, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
:The move was requested by {{ping|BrownHairedGirl}}.  -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 13:53, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
::@[[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]]: see [[Talk:Oldenburg_(city)#Requested_move_29_June_2020]]. I'll start on the disambiguations later today. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl</span>]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 14:00, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
:::{{ping|BrownHairedGirl}} I had found the move request (the link at [[Talk:Oldenburg]] is now circular, so I checked the revision history), and agree with the result. In instances like these, it's every hand to the pump. Don't assume that every link is intended for Oldenburg (city); in every case I've seen where [[WP:PTOPIC]] status had been removed, there were bad links-in which had been lying around for years. (The worst was [[Vinyl]], where only 10-15% of around 2,500 links-in were correct.) [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 14:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]], I learnt in my first few weeks of disambiguation not to assume {{tq|assume that every link is intended for Oldenburg (city)|q=y}}. That was 14 years ago, since when I have dabbed many thousands of former primary topics.  It's very rare to find one that is a clean set of correctly-targeted links.
::::Right now I am in the middle of disambiguating [[Globes]]/[[Globes (newspaper)]], which as usual was a mess. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl</span>]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 14:24, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

:''combined from a new section, as Gerda Arendt mentioned''
I find the whole thing about the move confusing. [[Talk:Oldenburg]] tells me that a move discussion is on [[Talk:Oldenburg]], where it's obviously not. Once I found it on [[Talk:Oldenburg (city)]], it was closed. I think the move was not helpful, - once established for Oldenburg meaning primarily a certain town, why change? Now many pages link to a dab, which doesn't even say that it used to be a certain town, - how is help with disambiguation meant to happen. Of course the German article name is different, because the German Wikipedia uses official names for towns. Could we at least do the same here, not say "(city)" while there are other towns? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:01, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Only when saving did I see that there was a thread already. Combine if you like. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:03, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

It's not easy. I dabbed a few. When you read "bishop of Oldenburg" it means the historic diocese/bishopricurg, which became [[prince-bishopric of Lübeck]]. Perhaps include that in the dab. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:15, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
:Yeah, when the move requests come in the talk page of an article to be moved from a name so another article can be moved to that name, that first issue arises. The change from "(city)" to the official name can be proposed at its talk page. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 15:18, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

* @[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]], there were about 780 links to be fixed.  I have disambiguated over 500 of them.  Most of them are to [[Oldenburg (city)]], but over 10% are to other uses.  The remainder are mostly to one of the other meanings, but it's not clear which.  That illustrates well why it's a bad idea not to disambiguate such a massively-ambiguous title: in this case it has led to hundreds of incorrect links. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl</span>]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 16:50, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
*: I tried a few, and yes, it's a problem when users think there's only one Oldenburg. I met a "principality of Oldenburg" but only on one page. The best choice when uncertain might be to ask on the talk page, what else could be done when a biography just he was from Oldenburg. - I remember having to dab [[Halle]], a similarly giant task. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:02, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
*{{done}} -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 20:54, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

==[[Shaarey Zedek Cemetery]]==
Hi, I don't understand the logic of your page move. Many institutions and places are named "Shaarey Zedek" (with different spellings in English) — see [[Shaare Zedek]]. Meanwhile, we have a similarly named cemetery, [[Shaare Zedek Cemetery, Jerusalem]], which was posted first. My logic in putting Winnipeg in parentheses in the present article was to maintain continuity with the parent synagogue, [[Shaarey Zedek Synagogue (Winnipeg)]]. [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 13:44, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
:I didn't find the other. I'll revert and put a cemetery disambiguation page in place. Thanks! -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 14:00, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
::{{done}}
::Note that continuity with the parent synagogue parenthetical isn't needed unless the child cemetery is also ambiguous on Wikipedia. Wikipedia doesn't use [[X (Winnipeg)]] unless some other [[X]] already exists, and [[Shaarey Zedek Cemetery]] didn't exist before the move I made. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 14:05, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
:::Thank you. Should the parentheses in the Winnipeg synagogue and cemetery page names be changed to a comma? [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 14:09, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
::::That I'm not sure of. Some naming conventions use parentheses and some use commas, and I'm not familiar with the guidelines for Canadian and Israeli synagogues and cemeteries. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 14:13, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
:::::OK, thanks. [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 14:46, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

== Closed move nominated by a sockpuppet account ==

It appears that the nominator for the move you closed at [[Talk:Russo-Ukrainian_War#Requested_move_9_June_2020]] was later revealed to be a sockpuppet account and banned. Please have another look and see if anything needs to be done. Thanks.&nbsp;—''[[user:Mzajac|Michael]]&nbsp;[[user_talk:Mzajac|Z]].'' 22:25, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

== Michael Rubin ==

Thanks for sorting out the undiscussed move of [[Michael Rubin]].  Please can you do the same with the talk pages?  I can't synchronise them myself, as the redirect has more than one version.  Thanks, [[User:Certes|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes|talk]]) 17:39, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
:{{done}} -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 18:16, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

==Saint Martin==
On 12 July, you moved [[Saint Martin]] to [[Saint Martin (island)]] and [[Saint Martin (disambiguation)]] to [[Saint Martin]]. Those moves broke 698 links.

The relevant portion of [[WP:FIXDABLINKS]] reads:{{quote|'''When creating disambiguation pages, fix all resulting mis-directed links.'''<br>
Before moving an article to a qualified name (in order to create a disambiguation page at the base name, to move an existing disambiguation page to that name, or to redirect that name to a disambiguation page), click on <u>What links here</u> to find all of the incoming links and repair them. [emphases in the original]}}

It was your duty to repair those broken links. You did not do so.

It was unfair to add several hundred links to the burden which DABfixers already face, of trying to keep up with the 400-700 new bad links to DAB pages created every day. There are about five of us, and we cannot quite keep up with those. See [[WP:TDD]]. [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 21:19, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
:{{ping|JFG}} see above -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 02:26, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
{{done}} -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 19:52, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

== Line break ==

When you edited ''[[Otello]]'' at line 117 with [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Otello&type=revision&diff=970502548&oldid=963648068 this edit], I noticed you replaced "<nowiki><br></nowiki>" with "<nowiki><br /></nowiki>", yet "<nowiki><br></nowiki>" is inserted as a line break by the line-break button on the advanced toolbar of the edit window and seems to work exactly the same. Why do you change it? Is the toolbar button making a mistake? Should it be changed to insert "<nowiki><br /></nowiki>"? --[[User:Robert.Allen|Robert.Allen]] ([[User talk:Robert.Allen|talk]]) 19:04, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
:They are mostly identical, but <nowiki><br /></nowiki> is the correct form per the standard and there is a corner case or two where some secondary tools don't handle <nowiki><br></nowiki> correctly. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 21:08, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
::Wouldn't it be a good idea to get the toolbar button changed as well? Or maybe it's already on a "to-do" list? --[[User:Robert.Allen|Robert.Allen]] ([[User talk:Robert.Allen|talk]]) 10:35, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
:::Yep, absolutely! If I should make that recommendation, do you know where to make it? -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 14:11, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
::::No, I don't, but I may be able to find out. --[[User:Robert.Allen|Robert.Allen]] ([[User talk:Robert.Allen|talk]]) 02:18, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

== Lynching of Wilbur Little ==

Regarding your edits to [[Lynching of Wilbur Little]], please note that other people (such as myself) have been working extensively on this article for a long time, and Visual Editor is the tool I use.  It is not appropriate to come along and change something like reference styles without first obtaining consensus.

I'm sorry that you combined multiple different changes into a single edit, which makes it difficult for me to back out just the parts which break VE.  So, I'm going to re-undo your edit.  Please don't restore this again.  If you want to go back and re-do the other stylistic changes you made, that's fine, but don't break the reference formatting.  Thanks.  -- [[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] [[User Talk:RoySmith|(talk)]] 13:44, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
:If you'd like to break the combined cites apart while retaining the other improvements, that's fine. But your extensive work on the article does not give you [[WP:OWN]]ership of it, nor prohibit other editors from only improving it the way you see fit. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 13:46, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
::{{u|JHunterJ}}, See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Vrfgmvuox6xc2bih -- [[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] [[User Talk:RoySmith|(talk)]] 16:14, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

== Kamala ==

In [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kamala&diff=972372138&oldid=972127466 your recent edit] at [[Kamala]], you removed the "Entertainment" section, which had quite a few entries, and instead redistributed them to the catchall "Other uses". [[MOS:DABGROUPING]] seems to encourage grouping the entertainers.  Is there a different standard that you are applying? Thanks.—[[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] ([[User talk:Bagumba|talk]]) 06:22, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
:"Entertainment" is over-broad to the point of uselessness when the entertainment consists of 1 wrestler, 1 novel, 1 comic book character, 1 foreign film, 1 Finnish thrash metal band, and 1 Star Trek character; that hodgepodge seems much better served by "other uses". "Arts and entertainment" seems over-broad generally. It seems to have been [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AManual_of_Style%2FDisambiguation_pages&diff=prev&oldid=677833219 added in 2015], but there's no discussion about it in archives [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages/Archive 41|41]] or [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages/Archive 42|42]]. The non-consensus essay [[WP:LONGDAB]] (by the same editor) favors it, but also gets a lot of other things wrong in favor of their pet style, and resists changes by demanding any disagreement get overwhelming consensus even though there was no consensus for its author's wording. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 11:26, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
::I would suggest that you at least get mention of "Arts and entertainment" removed from [[MOS:DAB]]. At worst, there is no consensus to remove such a section from dabs either. Still, I don't have any interest in adding it if there is consensus to remove it from the MOS.  Regards.—[[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] ([[User talk:Bagumba|talk]]) 11:44, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

== Crotalus concolor  ==

I disagree with your closure of the RM at [[Talk:Crotalus concolor]]. I think there was a failure to establish whether "Yellow rattlesnake" is a more commonly used name than "''Crotalus concolor''". Please see the rationale in my expression of opposition to that move. No one expressed support for that move without first determining whether there is a consensus that {{"'}}Yellow rattlesnake' is the most common name", and I therefore see no consensus to move the article. The proposer did not even respond to the comments about that question. —[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 19:36, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
:I saw consensus to move it from the scientific name. There's no prejudice against requesting its move to a better English name (midget faded rattlesnake or faded rattlesnake?), but there was no reason presented to leave it at the scientific name. [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (fauna)]]: "When there is no common name or no consensus can be reached on the most common name, or if it isn't clear what taxon the common name refers to (as in the sardine example above), use the scientific name." and the yellow rattlesnake does not meet those elements. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 19:47, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
::Yes, there ''was'' a reason presented to leave it at the scientific name. Please see my comment about the discussion at [[Talk:Daboia palaestinae]] and the difference between what is meant by "common name" on Wikipedia and in scientific literature. In fact there was no support expressed for that move{{snd}} only a conditional support for moving if another consensus was established first, and such a consensus was not established. In fact, "yellow rattlesnake" is not sufficiently unambiguous and has not been established as the most common name for the species. For example, I just did a web search and an image search for "yellow rattlesnake", and practically none of the results in the first few pages of search results were for ''Crotalus concolor'', except for Wikipedia pages. Please note that there was no direct mention of [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (fauna)]] in the discussion, and the closure is supposed to be a determination of consensus{{snd}} not an independent decision based on other things that were not discussed. Moreover, it says to use the scientific name when "no consensus can be reached on the most common name", and I do not see any consensus being reached about the most common name. —[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 22:04, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
:::Sigh. I didn't introduce NC:FAUNA. I'm aware of it, and the final !vote as mentioned in the close introduced the common name argument as used there. The lawyery note above introduces arguments, however, which of course I did not consider in the close, since they weren't in the discussion I closed. But refocusing on encyclopedic improvement: "Crotalus concolor" appears from the discussion to be no better than "Yellow rattlesnake" (or "[[midget faded rattlesnake]]" or "[[faded rattlesnake]]" , which already redirected to the yellow rattlesnake article, but aren't bolded there and are listed in a secondary way, behind "yellow rattlesnake", which would appear to make it more common that the other common names; this however is a new argument, which is why there's no prejudice against moving it to one of those names if needed), and probably worse, based on the discussion there and my previous familiarity with Wikipedia naming conventions (which is part of my adminship, and not to be forgotten in individual discussions, see [[WP:LOCALCONSENSUS]]). And the timber rattlesnake is not know as "yellow rattlesnake" (at least on Wikipedia), so that's no impediment.-- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 11:22, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
:::::Sorry for not noticing that WP:NCFAUNA was indeed mentioned during the discussion, although it was a different quote from it that was discussed. —[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 22:27, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
::::You may notice that someone else has now commented on the page, saying that "yellow rattlesnake" is not a well-known name for this snake. "''Crotalus concolor''" seems like a very good name for it, since it is well accepted and unambiguous. I plan to open a move review within a day or two. —[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 15:56, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
:::::You may notice that the article itself leads with the identification of the species as '''yellow rattlesnake'''. It seems now that you would like me to consider yet another new argument that wasn't present in the move discussion, while at the same time accusing me of introducing new arguments because I'm aware of Wikipedia naming conventions. Seems like a lot more bureaucracy than simply starting a discussion (there) as to what a good name for the article would be, and then getting it moved there. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 17:53, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
::::::It is not a new argument. That argument was raised during the RM discussion, when I said "I tend toward '''''oppose''''' for ''[[Crotalus concolor]]''. It does not seem clear to me that ''Crotalus concolor'' is most commonly known as "Yellow rattlesnake" or that it is the primary topic for that term. ..." The best idea that I have about what the article name should be is just the name the article already had. My impression is that reverting the name change would be better as an MR than as a second RM since I don't see any real basis for the consensus declaration of closure. —[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 22:21, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
:::::::"It does not seem clear to me" is not a common name or primary topic criterion. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 11:19, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

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== Sankat Mochan Hanuman Temple ==

Hi, i have a small doubt,i see [[Sankat Mochan Hanuman Temple, Shimla]]  deleted article that redirects draft to main space, why? --[[User:Prasanth202|Prasanth202]] ([[User talk:Prasanth202|talk]]) 13:40, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
: Its deletion log says:
:* 20:15, 24 August 2020 [[User talk:Fastily|Fastily]] deleted page Sankat Mochan Hanuman Temple, Shimla (R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace)
:* 19:47, 24 August 2020 [[User talk:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] moved page Sankat Mochan Hanuman Temple, Shimla to Draft:Sankat Mochan Hanuman Temple, Shimla (Undersourced, incubate in draftspace (via script))
:I would point you to their talk pages for the why. Cheers! -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 13:44, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Check User [[User:Ygolonac666]], creating articles in a single line. --[[User:Prasanth202|Prasanth202]] ([[User talk:Prasanth202|talk]]) 18:22, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
:Begin with [[User talk:Ygolonac666]]. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 18:25, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

== Asking ==

i don't understand please explain me what is Twinkle and how do i use it. --[[User:Prasanth202|Prasanth202]] ([[User talk:Prasanth202|talk]]) 04:44, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
:Check out [[Wikipedia:Twinkle]]. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 11:13, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
::{{u|JHunterJ}}, Thank you now i understand. [[User:Prasanth202|Prasanth202]] ([[User talk:Prasanth202|talk]]) 10:30, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
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== Asking ==

i asked someone he doesn't reply hope you help me i want know am i eligible for new page reviewer permission--[[User:Prasanth202|Prasanth202]] ([[User talk:Prasanth202|talk]]) 14:42, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
:Check out [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers#Obtaining the new user right]]. Cheers! -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 14:49, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

== User Report ==

[[User:Poljjuutre]] created 13 articles in Main this user creating article in a one or two lines with single citation i thought this user escaped from reviewers or something review this user. If am i wrong notify me. Thank You Links: [[Wikipedia:Database reports/Shortest biographies of living people|Database reports]] | [https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Poljjuutre/all#0 xtools Edit Count] --[[User:Prasanth202|Prasanth202]] ([[User talk:Prasanth202|talk]]) 16:21, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
:[[User talk:Poljjuutre]]. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 16:27, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

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== Wanting new AWB binary release ==

I see from several comments above, and from the [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=University_of_Chicago&type=revision&diff=975812684&oldid=975526374 edit] that was recently cited in AWB talk, that you're aware of its habit of dropping short descriptions below hatnotes. Did you (like me) build a private binary, or are you using double-click magic in the editor? In any case, as they made the fix in source last November, and the 6.1.0.1 release is almost a year old, can you add your voice to my request for a 6.1.0.2 release? [[User:DavidBrooks|David Brooks]] ([[User talk:DavidBrooks|talk]]) 19:55, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

== Ticket to Ride ==

How come you closed the discussion so quickly at the talk page and then made the page move, when it had hardly been a week since the proposal was raised? FWIW, I was just about to weigh in there. The song article and the game article have existed ''for years'' ... why the rush, in a matter of days? [[User:JG66|JG66]] ([[User talk:JG66|talk]]) 14:05, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
:Move requests last for one week; there was no rush. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 14:07, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

== I can't afford JamesEdition ==

Can [[user:I can't afford JamesEdition]] please be blocked ASAP for vandalism. [[User:CLCStudent|CLCStudent]] ([[User talk:CLCStudent|talk]]) 11:51, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
:They haven't been warned yet. See [[WP:V]] and [[Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism]]. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 11:54, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

== BCE+CE vs BC+AD ==

Hunter, that's VERY hot water. I'm personally fully in favour of BCE+CE in every article that is not on a strictly Christian topic, but you'll have half the Wiki editing population going for the jugular. If you want and can fight it out, good luck, but I reached the conclusion that it's not a fight worth fighting.

The concrete case on that page is that several articles are titled XYZ (... BC), and only the 70 CE one is with CE. Which is dumb beyond any definition of that word (calling events predating Jesus after him, but the one postdating him w/o referring "Christ"). Whatever. This whole can of worms is actually a double one, also tapping into the "Israeli-Palestinian conflict" (everything does, really, if you're asking certain people), one that even has its own abbreviation: I/P, or maybe A/P (Arab...), I don't know and don't care much to know. May the Power be with you! Cheers, [[User:Arminden|Arminden]] ([[User talk:Arminden|talk]]) 17:56, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
:You changed AD to CE. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 18:04, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
::You caught me :))) I had forgotten it. Won't stay that way for long, I guess. [[User:Arminden|Arminden]] ([[User talk:Arminden|talk]]) 23:05, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

== Cite bundling ==

I do not think it is prudent to bundle citations on undeveloped pages. In most cases, 2 or 3 cites next to each other are not disruptive to reading. However, with the use of the [[WP:Visual Editor|Visual Editor]], bundling will lead to duplication of citations to sentences that do not require all of the citations in the bundle. I would advise not bundling citations, unless there are more than three citations. Of course, in a FA article, all bundling is a good idea. Just some food for thought. ---&nbsp;[[User talk:Coffeeandcrumbs|<span style="color:blue;">C</span>]]&amp;[[Special:Contributions/Coffeeandcrumbs|<span style="color:#663366;">C</span>&nbsp;(]][[User:Coffeeandcrumbs|Coffeeandcrumbs]]) 14:07, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

== Your move of Umar to Omar ==

I don't see a consensus for move on the talk page. Especially given the arguments presented that "Omar" is more ambiguous and other similar articles use the "U" spelling. [[User:Khestwol|Khestwol]] ([[User talk:Khestwol|talk]]) 14:32, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
:[[Talk:Omar#Requested move 19 September 2020]] showed consensus. The one oppose said "per above", but the "above" was changed to support. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 14:34, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
::So this was decided by simply counting the !votes? [[User:Khestwol|Khestwol]] ([[User talk:Khestwol|talk]]) 14:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
:::No. The only oppose said "per above", but the "above" was changed to support, so consensus (not vote counting) was for support. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 15:03, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
::::The article is very important in the history of Islam so I think, since only three editors participated, relisting will be good for a more thorough consensus. Also I think a closing admin should consider all arguments presented (after my first comment I wrote other arguments in opposition) and not just the first words of the !votes. [[User:Khestwol|Khestwol]] ([[User talk:Khestwol|talk]]) 15:11, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
::::: I would suggest opening this topic at [[Talk:Omar]], and if a consensus forms for a new move, it can be undertaken. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 15:37, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

== MacArthur ==

Hi - Did you mean to drop the short description [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Douglas_MacArthur&curid=48596&diff=980684538&oldid=980232745&diffmode=source here]? --John ([[User:Jwy]]/[[User talk:Jwy|talk]]) 21:31, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
:Yeah. It was the second short description on the page. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 21:32, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

== [[Talk:Twice#Requested move 20 September 2020]] ==

You're kidding, right, with this close? There is absolutely no consensus to move by any measure of the votes presented, and in fact a clear majority opposing a move. Why the hand-wave dismissal of the views of so many commenters? Feels like another SUPERVOTE that you should rescind. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 04:47, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

I agree. That looks like a supervote, JHJ. 12 oppose, 6 support, and initiated by a little-used account. [[User:SlimVirgin|SarahSV]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</sup></small> 05:33, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
:The close has the explanation, but I expected the usual cries of supervoting. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 11:15, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
:: With a raw ratio of 12-6, you need an airtight, solid justification. Your close is far from that. Just re-close as no consensus (which is generous, since anyone else would read it as consensus not to move). -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 12:31, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
::: The policy and guideline-based discussion showed consensus. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 12:32, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
::::I have to say I came here seeking to open a discussion on this as well. WP is not a democracy, but when there are ''twice'' (get the pun?) as many opinions in one direction, I do not think you can so easily find a consensus to overturn the status quo, especially when both sides used policy-based arguments. It did feel like a super-vote as opposed to a consensus summary. [[User:El cid, el campeador|<span style="color:black">'''‡ Єl Cid of Valencia'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:el cid, el campeador|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]]</sup>  12:34, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
:::::The policy-based opinions were ''twice'' as many in the direction of the close. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 12:39, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
{{od}}JHunterJ, please reconsider. {{ping|Netoholic|El cid, el campeador}} I don't have time to start a move review at the moment, but in case either of you want to do it (assuming JHunterJ won't reconsider), instructions are at [[WP:IMR]]. [[User:SlimVirgin|SarahSV]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</sup></small> 03:59, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
I agree. This was a clear oppose result. Can't understand the rationale for the close. Not policy based? Utter rubbish. [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] and [[WP:ASTONISH]] were clearly cited either directly or indirectly by the opposers. I will certainly initiate a move review if you don't reconsider and nobody else does first. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 10:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

{| class="wikitable"
|+ [[Talk:Twice#Requested move 20 September 2020]]
|-
! User !! !vote !! Guideline !! Applicable?
|-
| Synoman Barris (OP) || (presumed support) || || no support presented
|-
| Old Naval Rooftops || Oppose || || -
|-
| Ortizesp || Oppose || [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] || No, just "I doubt it meets"
|-
| Station1 || style="background: lightgreen;"|Support || [[WP:PRIMARYUSAGE]] || Yes
|-
| In ictu oculi || Oppose || || -
|-
| Redalert2fan || Oppose || || -
|-
| Red Slash || Oppose || || -
|-
| Nkon 21 || Oppose || || -
|-
| Xezbeth || style="background: lightgreen;"|Support || PRIMARYUSAGE, [[WP:NOTDICT]] || Yes
|-
| DanTheMusicMan2 || style="background: lightgreen;"|Support || PRIMARYUSAGE || Yes
|-
| Dohn joe || style="background: lightgreen;"|Support || PRIMARYTOPIC, NOTDICT || Yes
|-
| Lugnuts || style="background: pink;"|Oppose || [[WP:ASTONISH]] || Yes
|-
| Netoholic || style="background: pink;"|Oppose || PRIMARY TOPIC and ASTONISH || Yes (for ASTONISH only)
|-
| El cid, el campeador || style="background: pink;"|Oppose || ASTONISH || Yes
|-
| WPmurphy || style="background: lightgreen;"|Support || PRIMARYUSAGE and [[WP:NWFCTM]] || Yes
|-
| Necrothesp || Oppose || || -
|-
| Ab207 || Oppose || PRIMARYTOPIC || No, the long-term significance was compared to a topic not convered (and so not ambiguous)
|-
| Zxcvbnm || Oppose || [[WP:NOPRIMARY]] and NWFCTM || No, no support for those, given the usage presented
|}

So the supports have [[WP:PRIMARYUSAGE]], [[WP:NOTDICT]], and [[WP:NWFCTM]], and the opposes have [[WP:ASTONISH]]. In evaluation, it seemed that the application of [[WP:ASTONISH]] was dependent upon treating the encyclopedia like a dictionary; readers looking for "Twice" here are not dictionary readers looking for "twice", and in resolving the close, and I also put a wiktionary link in the hatnote for those readers using the encyclopedia as a dictionary. So both in numbers of guidelines-based arguments and in evaluating those arguments, the conclusion was "move".

And the predictable cries of [[WP:SUPERVOTE]] come, and predictably focus on the numbers of votes cast (contrary to [[WP:NOTVOTE]]), which is ironic since just two sections before this I was accused (just as spuriously) of just counting votes. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 16:23, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
:You seem to think that a guideline must be linked to for the !vote to be valid. It is obvious in most cases that [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] or [[WP:ASTONISH]] was being cited, whether it was linked or not. But you apparently ignored opinions if they did not slavishly link to a guideline. That's frankly ridiculous and is not in the spirit of Wikipedia discussion. So yes, I'm afraid it does look like you're applying a supervote. There was certainly no consensus to move here. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 22:47, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
::OTOH, I'm afraid it just looks like the usual cries of supervote whenever [[WP:NOTVOTE]] comes up. The strength of the arguments for support was stronger, and there was consensus to move here. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 11:03, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
:::No, really there wasn't. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 12:37, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
::::Since I am mentioned, I have presented my opinion at [[WP:MR|move review]], to be sincere I was so inclined to move it at [[WP:RM/TR]] but I knew it was this controversial. Cheers [[User:Synoman Barris|<span style="font-family: Bell Centennial; color:Red; text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Megan☺️</span>]] [[User talk:Synoman Barris|<span style="Blue">''<sup>Talk to the monster</sup>''</span>]] 08:36, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

:<s>'''Support:'''</s> I was not aware of this new request following the heated move request I was involved in. I just wanted to say {{thank you}}, and that had I been aware of your request, I would have supported it. [[User:DeNoel|Christopher, Sheridan, OR]] ([[User talk:DeNoel|talk]]) 23:56, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
::{{ping|DeNoel}} you're not too late. See the [[Wikipedia:Move review#Twice|Move review]]! -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 03:55, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
:::Oh{{em dash}}I see this is ''not'' about the second (twice) 25 September 2020 [[Rule 34]] article move. Explains why I didn't see Rule 34 in the Move review. My mistake, but I'm still happy with how things turned out. I just hadn't expected a new request so soon after the previous one, to have been so successful.<br>
:::[[User:DeNoel|Christopher, Sheridan, OR]] ([[User talk:DeNoel|talk]]) 04:59, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

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==Move review for [[:Omar]]==
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==Vernon Thomas==
After your recent move of [[Vernon Thomas]], should [[Vernon Thomas (disambiguation)]] (with its malformed {{tl|intitle}} call) go per [[WP:ONEOTHER]] (or if blanked and redirected, [[WP:G14]])? The hatnote does everything necessary.

(If that DAB page is on your wait-seven-days-then-nuke-it list, consider this a support !vote.) [[User:Narky Blert|Narky Blert]] ([[User talk:Narky Blert|talk]]) 19:25, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
:Possibly, but it's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Vernon_Thomas_(disambiguation) not orphaned]. The two incoming links would have to be addressed, so I left it for them. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 11:06, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

== Afd ==

[[WP:G14]] doesn't apply, as there are two articles (town and village) for <s>each</s> all but one of the dab pages, but that doesn't change the inevitable verdict. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 22:45, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
:Gah. Thanks. I just read it as coving unnecessary disambiguation pages. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 23:08, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

== Octavius (disambiguation) ==

'''Why on earth''' did you close the discussion at [[Talk:Octavius (disambiguation)]]? Are you aware that I did in fact provide arguments for this so-called implicit "consensus"? 50% of the respondents agreed with me, so the discussion was far from over. You have no right to just arbitrarily shut down a discussion like that for no reason. Did you even ''go through the trouble of reading the whole thing''? [[User:Avis11|Avis11]] ([[User talk:Avis11|talk]]) 14:15, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
:Because a week had passed, which is the usual duration of requested moves, and the discussion was not active. Your original proposal and the respondent who agreed with you [[WP:PERNOM]] did not show a reason to change from the current arrangement, and your argument after your non-collegial exchange in the discussion based on Scholar was balanced by the argument based on Google. And your post here fails to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]]. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 14:43, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
::An 'implicit consensus', by [[WP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS|the very guidelines you yourself provided when justifying your closure]], ceases to exist if any editor (me) objects to it. Thus, the individual who opposed me should have given an argument ''other'' than this now-inexistent 'implicit consensus' if he wished to keep the previous version. Since he did not, his argument was as empty as that other one which you claim is insufficiently in my favor. Calidum's argument, despite its lack of merit (based either on his bad faith or his misunderstanding of the rules), effectively obstructed the whole thing, hence my 'non-collegial' demand for him to withdraw it. All his obstruction needed to succeed was for a negligent, sloppy and unattentive administrator (you) to give it undue weight and baldly declare that the discussion was thenceforth closed.
::Furthermore, [[WP:DETERMINEPRIMARY]], '''which I linked to in the discussion''', says that, to determine a primary topic, "{{tq|usage in English reliable sources demonstrated with Google Ngram viewer, Books, Scholar, News, and Trends}}" is to be preferred over simple web searches. You're wrong in claiming "the discussion based on Scholar was balanced by the argument based on Google". Not only that, but Calidum was also flatly wrong in claiming a simple Google search supported his argument – it doesn't, and this is something I pointed out back in the discussion as well. Presumably you didn't bother reading any of this either and just decided to close the discussion when some automatic seven-day-wait trigger activated in your head. I don't care whether you acted in good or bad faith, what matters is that you acted with conspicuous unpreparedness for an administrator, and that you're the third person to obstruct this for me without good reason – the second being Calidum and the first being an IP-using pest who (without justification) moved this to the 'controversial moves' section and never bothered to join the discussion afterwards. [[User:Avis11|Avis11]] ([[User talk:Avis11|talk]]) 17:40, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
:::No, one editor disagreeing with an existing implicit consensus does not cause it to cease to exist; there's nothing in those "very guidelines" that says anything like that. The misunderstanding of the "rules" is yours. Since you've progressed from assuming bad faith to personal attacks, kindly move along. [[WP:MR]] is thataway if you like.-- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 19:08, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
::::He didn't bother notifying you, but he has since taken this to MR. [[User:Calidum|<span style="color:#01796F; font-family:serif">'''-- ''Calidum'''''</span>]] 01:37, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
::::You're dismissive and you fail to address all points in defense of your conduct. I'll quote verbatim from the guidelines so you can understand. [[WP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS]]: {{tq|Should that edit later be revised by another editor without dispute, it can be assumed that a new consensus has been reached.}} Yes, my edit was "disputed", but the editor who did so should've had presented an argument other than 'implicit consensus', otherwise the whole thing becomes a circular deadlock (which you helped to enforce).
::::It will also be useful to quote (again) from [[WP:DPT]]: primary topic is partly determined by "{{tq|Usage in English reliable sources demonstrated with Google Ngram viewer, Books, Scholar, News, and Trends. Simple web searches may be problematic}}". Your claim that my "{{tq|non-collegial exchange in the discussion based on Scholar was balanced by the argument based on Google}}" is thus flatly wrong and further shows your disregard of the guidelines. Calidum of course failed to argue against this as well, and did not provide any evidence to support his position aside from falsely claiming 'Augustus' is the primary Google search topic, yet you still gave undue weight to his position. [[User:Avis11|Avis11]] ([[User talk:Avis11|talk]]) 16:03, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
:::::Question: Was it "later ... revised by another editor without dispute?" (Answer key: No.) I am dismissive of editors who assume bad faith and make personal attacks. To repeat: move along. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 16:08, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
::::::FOr the millionth time, you just skimmed through instead of actually reading. Here is the critical part which you missed: "{{tq|Yes, my edit was "disputed", but the editor who did so should've had presented an argument other than 'implicit consensus', otherwise the whole thing becomes a circular deadlock (which you helped to enforce)}}". And at no point I did I actually assume bad faith or really make any personal insults. [[User:Avis11|Avis11]] ([[User talk:Avis11|talk]]) 16:22, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
:::::::I'm glad you agree that I was correct that the guidelines do not actually say what you said they did, but we will disagree on your assumption of bad faith (here, in the original RM, and in the current MR) and your personal attack ("negligent, sloppy and unattentive administrator (you)"). Move. Along. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 16:26, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
::::::::You're just distorting what I said, the guidelines do not support your or Calidum's case and you haven't addressed how either of you weren't entitled to use said guideline to begin with. And none fof those were personal attacks, just feedback. If someone calls you unattentive and negligent you could try and be less unattentive and negligent. [[User:Avis11|Avis11]] ([[User talk:Avis11|talk]]) 16:33, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Move along. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 16:37, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::Next time do a better job, or, if you're not willing to justify your actions, not at all. [[User:Avis11|Avis11]] ([[User talk:Avis11|talk]]) 19:54, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

== Vilalba ==

:''relocated to [[Talk:Vilalba]]''

== National League ==

{{Ping|JHunterJ}} thank you for moving the [[National League]] page back to its proper name. However, what should we do about the page for the prior league called the "National League of Professional Baseball Clubs" from back in the 1800s? It got deleted in this renaming fiasco. [[User:Morriswa|Morriswa (Charlotte Allison)]] ([[User talk:Morriswa|talk]]) 13:27, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
:Do you have a link to a history entry or other relic of it? I can't find anything. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 14:00, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
::I feel like an idiot. It was actually either [[National Association of Base Ball Players]] or [[National Association of Professional Base Ball Players]]. Sorry about that. [[User:Morriswa|Morriswa (Charlotte Allison)]] ([[User talk:Morriswa|talk]]) 02:19, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

== [[Temple Block]] ==

Have you seen [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Temple_Block&action=history that you were ignored]? I started the original RM, which had little input. But this editor appears to feel strongly that this should be a dab and not a PT redirect. Do you want to ask again that they start another move request? [[User:MB|<b style="color:#00FF00">MB</b>]] 00:38, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

==[[SSV Normandy]]==
Hi there, just wondering if there is sufficient consensus for a move per [[Talk:SSV_Normandy#Requested_move_9_October_2020]], or do you think it should be allowed to run for longer, even though more then 7 days have passed since the nomination? Thank you for your time. [[User:Haleth|Haleth]] ([[User talk:Haleth|talk]]) 00:54, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
:I'm not familiar with it, but it doesn't look like there's any objection. -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 01:39, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
::Ok. If that is the case, are you able to close the request and move the subject topic? Or would you prefer that another user does it? Since I proposed the request in the first place, I don't think it's appropriate for me to do so, I think. [[User:Haleth|Haleth]] ([[User talk:Haleth|talk]]) 06:07, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

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== Apologies ==

Hello JHunterJ, I come to offer sincere (if overdue) apologies for my hostile and belligerent approach towards yourself on the earlier move affair in which I questioned your conduct. Perhaps the event has already slipped from your mind or has too little significance for you to waste any more time on it, but I remembered the incident the other day and thought some sort of nominal resolution could be attempted. I still do not agree with your handling of the situation, but my reaction to it clearly fell a bit short of common-sense standards and you obviously did not deserve to be verbally barraged as you were. [[User:Avis11|Avis11]] ([[User talk:Avis11|talk]]) 19:46, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
:Thank you, Avis11! -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 12:09, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

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== [[Hearts Are Trumps]] ==

Thankyou for closing [[Talk:Hearts Are Trumps#Requested move 4 December 2020]] but I note that Station1 pointed about the move in 2016[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Hearts+Are+Trumps] but the [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Hearts_Are_Trumps&action=history history] of the current "Hearts Are Trumps" page only dates from 2018 and I'm wondering if there needs to be a history merge or maybe the history of the old DAB restored to "[[Hearts are Trumps]]"? I didn't check the edit history of the other DAB prior to you're close so I have no idea what is was other than what I can see in the logs. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]])  18:28, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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== Draft.... ==

I don't think [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Fleetwood_and_Ducati_James the conversation] here in the comments is entirely the best place to have it. You're obviously welcome to accept it if you feel that way, as I'm also prepared to AFD it since I don't think it's notable. And as a side note, it's creator(s) are violating the TOS (which has been emailed to arbcom), while not necessarily a reason to delete or decline it, it is a good reason to scrutinize the sources, which I did and came to the conclusion that it doesn't meet our rather low bar of notability. [[User:Praxidicae|<span style="color:#9FA91F;font-size:11px">GRINCHIDICAE🎄</span>]] 16:37, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
:Also [https://www.picuki.com/profile/ak47drip this] is not independent coverage nor is it a reliable source outside of possibly for primary information (which is by definition not enough to establish notability), [https://www.tigernet.com/update/WATCH-Clemson-rap-song-Im-a-Tiger-36028 this is a fansite and just the video, there's no coverage], [https://scnow.com/lifestyles/eric-poston-receives-degree-from-duke-lane-poston-graduates-high-school/article_45712c99-491d-5ad4-8ccf-34dc54b738be.html this is laughably not coverage] and it's a small local paper, it establishes nothing more than his bio, [https://www.thepostonfoundation.org/ this generic link to a task force] is decidedly ''not'' coverage, and [https://sccriminallaws.com/podcasts/episode-10-eric-poston-a-k-k-ducati-james/ not remotely indepednent] '''coverage'''. I obviously didn't dissect 7 fully here (because your citebundle makes the SA table break) but your statement that sources don't have to be in depth is contrary to [[WP:N]]. A short article has to be sourced and it still requires ample significant, in-depth coverage. I am loathe to say this to an admin but if I were to come across another reviewer saying this, I'd strongly encourage them to review our notability and coverage requirements. [[User:Praxidicae|<span style="color:#9FA91F;font-size:11px">GRINCHIDICAE🎄</span>]] 16:44, 26 December 2020 (UTC)