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== Semifinals (swimming) ==

Hi! Don't you think we should have 1 wikitable for semis just like for heats. [[Swimming at the 2022 World Aquatics Championships – Men's 50 metre butterfly| a random article]]. The sources used also have only 1 table, which makes it more clear who advanced with time. It would probably also avoid such mistakes as currently in [[Singapore at the 2022 World Aquatics Championships|Singapore]] article:
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%;"
! rowspan="2" |Athlete
! rowspan="2" |Event
! colspan="2" |Heat
! colspan="2" |Semifinal
! colspan="2" |Final
|-
!Time
!Rank
!Time
!Rank
!Time
!Rank
|- align="center"
| align="left" |[[Teong Tzen Wei]]
| align="left" |[[Swimming at the 2022 World Aquatics Championships – Men's 50 metre butterfly|50 metre butterfly]]
|23.51 
|14 '''Q'''
|23.03
|4 '''Q'''
|23.29
|8
|}
While it should be 
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%;"
! rowspan="2" |Athlete
! rowspan="2" |Event
! colspan="2" |Heat
! colspan="2" |Semifinal
! colspan="2" |Final
|-
!Time
!Rank
!Time
!Rank
!Time
!Rank
|- align="center"
| align="left" |[[Teong Tzen Wei]]
| align="left" |[[Swimming at the 2022 World Aquatics Championships – Men's 50 metre butterfly|50 metre butterfly]]
|23.51 
|14 '''Q'''
|23.03
|7 '''Q'''
|23.29
|8
|}
--[[User:Pelmeen10|Pelmeen10]] ([[User talk:Pelmeen10|talk]]) 14:27, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Pelmeen10}} Hmm, never thought about that but not a bad idea. Just went on with how it was done the last few editions. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 14:40, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
::Used it today, let's see if someone disagrees. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 16:39, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
{{Moved discussion to|Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Swimming#Semifinals (swimming)}}

== 2022 FIBA 3x3 World Cup ==

What's with the strange result tables,don't find it very reader friendly to figure out for a specific team which scores they obtained vs other teams. I get the point that listing the result for A vs B twice could be confusing, but now it seems random when the score is filled in A vs B rather than B vs A. Why not use a more friendly format like all results in topright corner (ie 1st in group always listed as home, last in group always as away) or always list the winner as "home"? Examples below:

RANDOM:
{{#invoke:Sports table|main|style=WL|ranking_style=wins
|update=complete
|source=[https://www.fiba.basketball/3x3WorldCup/2022/final-standings#tab=pool_men FIBA]
|for_against_style=points
|show_matches=yes
|solid_cell=grey

|team_order=SRB, FRA, NZL, PUR, BRA

|win_SRB=4 |loss_SRB=0 |gf_SRB=86 |ga_SRB=60
|win_FRA=2 |loss_FRA=2 |gf_FRA=72 |ga_FRA=65
|win_PUR=1 |loss_PUR=3 |gf_PUR=71 |ga_PUR=78
|win_BRA=1 |loss_BRA=3 |gf_BRA=57 |ga_BRA=76
|win_NZL=2 |loss_NZL=2 |gf_NZL=71 |ga_NZL=78

|hth_FRA=France 21–13 New Zealand
|hth_NZL=FRA
|hth_PUR=Puerto Rico 20–16 Brazil
|hth_BRA=PUR

|name_SRB={{3x3|SRB}} |short_SRB={{flagdeco|SRB}}
|name_FRA={{3x3|FRA}} |short_FRA={{flagdeco|FRA}}
|name_PUR={{3x3|PUR}} |short_PUR={{flagdeco|PUR}}
|name_BRA={{3x3|BRA}} |short_BRA={{flagdeco|BRA}}
|name_NZL={{3x3|NZL}} |short_NZL={{flagdeco|NZL}}

|class_rules=1) Wins; 2) Head-to-head record; 3) Points scored.

|result1=A |result2=Q |result3=Q

|res_col_header=Q
|col_A=green1 |text_A=[[#Knockout stage|Quarterfinals]]
|col_Q=blue1  |text_Q=Round of 16

|match_SRB_FRA=22–15
|match_SRB_PUR=null
|match_SRB_BRA=22–7
|match_SRB_NZL=null

|match_FRA_SRB=null
|match_FRA_PUR=21–14
|match_FRA_BRA=null
|match_FRA_NZL=21–13

|match_PUR_SRB=19–21
|match_PUR_FRA=null
|match_PUR_BRA=20–16
|match_PUR_NZL=null

|match_BRA_SRB=null
|match_BRA_FRA=16–15
|match_BRA_PUR=null
|match_BRA_NZL=18–19

|match_NZL_SRB=19–21
|match_NZL_FRA=null
|match_NZL_PUR=20–18
|match_NZL_BRA=null
}}

Highest ranked at home (only final when group is done):
{{#invoke:Sports table|main|style=WL|ranking_style=wins
|update=complete
|source=[https://www.fiba.basketball/3x3WorldCup/2022/final-standings#tab=pool_men FIBA]
|for_against_style=points
|show_matches=yes
|solid_cell=grey

|team_order=SRB, FRA, NZL, PUR, BRA

|win_SRB=4 |loss_SRB=0 |gf_SRB=86 |ga_SRB=60
|win_FRA=2 |loss_FRA=2 |gf_FRA=72 |ga_FRA=65
|win_PUR=1 |loss_PUR=3 |gf_PUR=71 |ga_PUR=78
|win_BRA=1 |loss_BRA=3 |gf_BRA=57 |ga_BRA=76
|win_NZL=2 |loss_NZL=2 |gf_NZL=71 |ga_NZL=78

|hth_FRA=France 21–13 New Zealand
|hth_NZL=FRA
|hth_PUR=Puerto Rico 20–16 Brazil
|hth_BRA=PUR

|name_SRB={{3x3|SRB}} |short_SRB={{flagdeco|SRB}}
|name_FRA={{3x3|FRA}} |short_FRA={{flagdeco|FRA}}
|name_PUR={{3x3|PUR}} |short_PUR={{flagdeco|PUR}}
|name_BRA={{3x3|BRA}} |short_BRA={{flagdeco|BRA}}
|name_NZL={{3x3|NZL}} |short_NZL={{flagdeco|NZL}}

|class_rules=1) Wins; 2) Head-to-head record; 3) Points scored.

|result1=A |result2=Q |result3=Q

|res_col_header=Q
|col_A=green1 |text_A=[[#Knockout stage|Quarterfinals]]
|col_Q=blue1  |text_Q=Round of 16

|match_SRB_FRA=22–15
|match_SRB_PUR=21–19
|match_SRB_BRA=22–7
|match_SRB_NZL=21–19

|match_FRA_SRB=null
|match_FRA_PUR=21–14
|match_FRA_BRA=15–16
|match_FRA_NZL=21–13

|match_PUR_SRB=null
|match_PUR_FRA=null
|match_PUR_BRA=20–16
|match_PUR_NZL=null

|match_BRA_SRB=null
|match_BRA_FRA=null
|match_BRA_PUR=null
|match_BRA_NZL=null

|match_NZL_SRB=null
|match_NZL_FRA=null
|match_NZL_PUR=20–18
|match_NZL_BRA=19–18
}}

WINNER at home (highlights 'upset matches'):
{{#invoke:Sports table|main|style=WL|ranking_style=wins
|update=complete
|source=[https://www.fiba.basketball/3x3WorldCup/2022/final-standings#tab=pool_men FIBA]
|for_against_style=points
|show_matches=yes
|solid_cell=grey

|team_order=SRB, FRA, NZL, PUR, BRA

|win_SRB=4 |loss_SRB=0 |gf_SRB=86 |ga_SRB=60
|win_FRA=2 |loss_FRA=2 |gf_FRA=72 |ga_FRA=65
|win_PUR=1 |loss_PUR=3 |gf_PUR=71 |ga_PUR=78
|win_BRA=1 |loss_BRA=3 |gf_BRA=57 |ga_BRA=76
|win_NZL=2 |loss_NZL=2 |gf_NZL=71 |ga_NZL=78

|hth_FRA=France 21–13 New Zealand
|hth_NZL=FRA
|hth_PUR=Puerto Rico 20–16 Brazil
|hth_BRA=PUR

|name_SRB={{3x3|SRB}} |short_SRB={{flagdeco|SRB}}
|name_FRA={{3x3|FRA}} |short_FRA={{flagdeco|FRA}}
|name_PUR={{3x3|PUR}} |short_PUR={{flagdeco|PUR}}
|name_BRA={{3x3|BRA}} |short_BRA={{flagdeco|BRA}}
|name_NZL={{3x3|NZL}} |short_NZL={{flagdeco|NZL}}

|class_rules=1) Wins; 2) Head-to-head record; 3) Points scored.

|result1=A |result2=Q |result3=Q

|res_col_header=Q
|col_A=green1 |text_A=[[#Knockout stage|Quarterfinals]]
|col_Q=blue1  |text_Q=Round of 16

|match_SRB_FRA=22–15
|match_SRB_PUR=21–19
|match_SRB_BRA=22–7
|match_SRB_NZL=21–19

|match_FRA_SRB=null
|match_FRA_PUR=21–14
|match_FRA_BRA=null
|match_FRA_NZL=21–13

|match_PUR_SRB=null
|match_PUR_FRA=null
|match_PUR_BRA=20–16
|match_PUR_NZL=null

|match_BRA_SRB=null
|match_BRA_FRA=16–15
|match_BRA_PUR=null
|match_BRA_NZL=null

|match_NZL_SRB=null
|match_NZL_FRA=null
|match_NZL_PUR=20–18
|match_NZL_BRA=19–18
}}

[[User:Pelotas|<b style="color:#4863A0;">Pelotas</b>]][[User talk:Pelotas|<b style="color:#F88017;"><sup>talk</sup></b>]]<sup>&#124;</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Pelotas|<span style="color:#F88017;"><sup>'''contribs'''</sup></span>]] 20:05, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Pelotas}} Because that's how FIBA set up the schedule. I just think we can't just change the format to make it look "better" or more "friendly". And i don't think it's hard to look at a specific result. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 20:35, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
::I couldn't disagree more. There's no value in how FIBA set up the schedule, and we're just representing the same information in a more user friendly format. You might as well then just fill the full table. [[User:Pelotas|<b style="color:#4863A0;">Pelotas</b>]][[User talk:Pelotas|<b style="color:#F88017;"><sup>talk</sup></b>]]<sup>&#124;</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Pelotas|<span style="color:#F88017;"><sup>'''contribs'''</sup></span>]] 19:15, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|Pelotas}} Disagre about the no value about the schedule, then we can change them all over the place and make it how we want it. We need to agree to disagree than (which is not a problem) and may ask the basketball project for more input. Should i open a discussion there? [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 19:21, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
::::Ok, what do you think about this below? Adds a more visual way of quickly seeing whether "home" or "away" won. [[User:Pelotas|<b style="color:#4863A0;">Pelotas</b>]][[User talk:Pelotas|<b style="color:#F88017;"><sup>talk</sup></b>]]<sup>&#124;</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Pelotas|<span style="color:#F88017;"><sup>'''contribs'''</sup></span>]] 19:52, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

{{#invoke:Sports table|main|style=WL|ranking_style=wins
|update=complete
|source=[https://www.fiba.basketball/3x3WorldCup/2022/final-standings#tab=pool_men FIBA]
|for_against_style=points
|show_matches=yes
|solid_cell=grey
|matches_style=FBR

|team_order=SRB, FRA, NZL, PUR, BRA

|win_SRB=4 |loss_SRB=0 |gf_SRB=86 |ga_SRB=60
|win_FRA=2 |loss_FRA=2 |gf_FRA=72 |ga_FRA=65
|win_PUR=1 |loss_PUR=3 |gf_PUR=71 |ga_PUR=78
|win_BRA=1 |loss_BRA=3 |gf_BRA=57 |ga_BRA=76
|win_NZL=2 |loss_NZL=2 |gf_NZL=71 |ga_NZL=78

|hth_FRA=France 21–13 New Zealand
|hth_NZL=FRA
|hth_PUR=Puerto Rico 20–16 Brazil
|hth_BRA=PUR

|name_SRB={{3x3|SRB}} |short_SRB={{flagdeco|SRB}}
|name_FRA={{3x3|FRA}} |short_FRA={{flagdeco|FRA}}
|name_PUR={{3x3|PUR}} |short_PUR={{flagdeco|PUR}}
|name_BRA={{3x3|BRA}} |short_BRA={{flagdeco|BRA}}
|name_NZL={{3x3|NZL}} |short_NZL={{flagdeco|NZL}}

|class_rules=1) Wins; 2) Head-to-head record; 3) Points scored.

|result1=A |result2=Q |result3=Q

|res_col_header=Q
|col_A=green1 |text_A=[[#Knockout stage|Quarterfinals]]
|col_Q=blue1  |text_Q=Round of 16

|match_SRB_FRA=22–15
|match_SRB_PUR=null
|match_SRB_BRA=22–7
|match_SRB_NZL=null

|match_FRA_SRB=null
|match_FRA_PUR=21–14
|match_FRA_BRA=null
|match_FRA_NZL=21–13

|match_PUR_SRB=19–21
|match_PUR_FRA=null
|match_PUR_BRA=20–16
|match_PUR_NZL=null

|match_BRA_SRB=null
|match_BRA_FRA=16–15
|match_BRA_PUR=null
|match_BRA_NZL=18–19

|match_NZL_SRB=19–21
|match_NZL_FRA=null
|match_NZL_PUR=20–18
|match_NZL_BRA=null
}}

:::::{{Ping|Pelotas}} Would work for me, looks pretty good. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 19:54, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

== [[2023 FIBA Basketball World Cup qualification (Europe)]] ==

Hi! Where I will found the information about attendance of matches? Greetings from Poland, --[[User:Andrzej94|Andrzej94]] ([[User talk:Andrzej94|talk]]) 22:04, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
:{{ping|Andrzej94}} You can find them [https://reports.fiba.basketball here]. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 22:19, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
::Thanks for helping me. --[[User:Andrzej94|Andrzej94]] ([[User talk:Andrzej94|talk]]) 22:27, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

== 2022-23 NHL transactions ==

Hey, please stop deleting and instead start hiding tables with no information if that is an issue for you, thanks. 22:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC) [[User:Nanerz|Nanerz]] ([[User talk:Nanerz|talk]])
:{{ping|Nanerz}} Hey, yeah i should have done that. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 22:24, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

== 2022 FIBA Asia Cup Final Standings ==

Hi, Chinese Taipei should be 10th and Indonesia 11th, since Chinese Taipei has a total points difference of -12 (Preliminary round -11, Final Round -1), and Indonesia is -58 (Preliminary round -8, Final Round -50). Please confirm and edit the changes, thanks! [[User:Jctk|Jctk]] ([[User talk:Jctk|talk]]) 16:42, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
:{{ping|Jctk}} Normally only the preliminary round counts. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 16:50, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
::So why is it in [[2017 FIBA Asia Cup|2017]], Syria is over Iraq in the final standings, even if Syria is -14 while Iraq is -8 in the preliminary round? If considering the preliminary round + knockout round, Syria would be -19 while Iraq would be -22, and I assume this was used for the final standings there. Could that info there be actually wrong? '''<sup>[[User:Engr. Smitty|<span style="color:#552582;">Engr.</span>]] [[User talk:Engr. Smitty|<span style="color:#061922;">Smitty</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Engr. Smitty|<span style="color:#FDB927;">Werben</span>]]</sup>''' 17:29, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|Engr. Smitty}} Looking at the FIBA site they only list the first eight teams. So maybe the other ones should be removed as unsourced? [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 17:32, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
::::I'm not entirely sure how to deal with that. It was easier until [[2015 FIBA Asia Championship|2015]] where there are classification matches even for the 15th place. Maybe we should just be consistent with our presentation of information for now, until (maybe) FIBA releases an actual final standings at the end of the 2022 tourney. '''<sup>[[User:Engr. Smitty|<span style="color:#552582;">Engr.</span>]] [[User talk:Engr. Smitty|<span style="color:#061922;">Smitty</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Engr. Smitty|<span style="color:#FDB927;">Werben</span>]]</sup>''' 17:52, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
:::::{{Ping|Engr. Smitty}} I do believe the table should be hidden until we have a source. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 17:53, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Kante4|Kante4]] I believe the Final Round was indeed used in 2017, and therefore should be accounted for in 2022 as well. [[User:Jctk|Jctk]] ([[User talk:Jctk|talk]]) 17:39, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Jctk}} Do we have a source for that? Right now we are (me included) just guessing. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 17:45, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Kante4|Kante4]] I don't see a source on the FIBA site. But 2017 was the first year where there were no clasification games for 9th-12th and 13th-16th, so it makes sense to use the "Rules for classification: 1) Points; 2) Head-to-head results; 3) Points difference; 4) Points scored" for all the games, final round included. [[User:Jctk|Jctk]] ([[User talk:Jctk|talk]]) 17:53, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Kante4|Kante4]]@[[User:Engr. Smitty|Engr. Smitty]] Also, both teams played both Jordan and China in the Premliminary and Final Round, and Chinese Taipei lost by -1 and -15, while Indonesia lost by -9 and -50. So Chinese Taipei should be ahead of Indonesia in this regard. [[User:Jctk|Jctk]] ([[User talk:Jctk|talk]]) 18:14, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
Usually in that case, there would be a shared 9th (or whatever number) place for all of them. [[User:Pelmeen10|Pelmeen10]] ([[User talk:Pelmeen10|talk]]) 19:42, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

:@[[User:Pelmeen10|Pelmeen10]] I agree, maybe this should be changed for 2017 and 2022, where there's a shared for 9th place and 13th place, instead of listing from 9th to 16th. @[[User:Kante4|Kante4]]@[[User:Engr. Smitty|Engr. Smitty]] [[User:Jctk|Jctk]] ([[User talk:Jctk|talk]]) 22:45, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

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::{{Ping|Phikia}} Rreport the user to AIV if he vandalizes. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 17:10, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
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== 2023 fiba quali ==

i got confused with the remaining no. of games [[User:ItsSimocity|ItsSimocity]] ([[User talk:ItsSimocity|talk]]) 09:04, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|ItsSimocity}} No problem. With those scenarios i get confused aswell but i checked the German website and they said that they are in a good position but not yet qualified. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 09:15, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

::Thanks! I'll do my best to cooperate on the article too! ;) [[User:ItsSimocity|ItsSimocity]] ([[User talk:ItsSimocity|talk]]) 09:18, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

== Tbilisi Arena ==

Hello, [[Tbilisi Arena]] and [[Olympic Palace]] isn't same places. Tbilisi Arena was completed at 2022. [[User:David1010|<span style="font-family:papyrus; font-size: 15pt"><span style="color:green">D</span><span style="color:red">avid</span></span>]] 10:30, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|David1010}} Ah ok. That in the edit summary would have helped. ;) [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 10:31, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
::I forgot to add edit summary :) [[User:David1010|<span style="font-family:papyrus; font-size: 15pt"><span style="color:green">D</span><span style="color:red">avid</span></span>]] 10:38, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|David1010}} No worries. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 10:39, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
::::Hi! Do you know attendance at the Eurobasket 2022 match Georgia vs Spain? BTW, where do you find these attendance numbers? [[User:Hyperion82|Hyperion82]] ([[User talk:Hyperion82|talk]]) 16:51, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
:::::{{Ping|Hyperion82}} Hey, the attendance was not published (so far). Attendances can be found [https://reports.eurobasket.basketball here]. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 17:01, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

== waterpolo ==

[[European Water Polo Championship]] too long. if you create 2 articles so good:

[[European Men's  Water Polo Championship]] - [[European Women's  Water Polo Championship]] [[User:Vellico|Vellico]] thanks ([[User talk:Vellico|talk]]) 11:10, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

:There is no reason to divide this article. Unlike many other team kinds of sport (like football, basketball, volleyball, etc), men's and women's water polo championships doesn't not held separately - they are being held at same period and venue. [[User:Hyperion82|Hyperion82]] ([[User talk:Hyperion82|talk]]) 07:29, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
::Agree. The article is not too long, imo. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 08:46, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

== 2022 FIBA AmeriCup ==

[[2022 FIBA AmeriCup]]'s Final Rankings is kinda wrong. Idk..

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!rowspan=2 width=180|Team
!rowspan=2 width:5%| Record
!rowspan=2 width:5%| {{Tooltip|PF|Points for}} 
!rowspan=2 width:5%| {{Tooltip|PA|Points against}} 
!rowspan=2 width:5%| {{Tooltip|PD|Points difference}}
!colspan=3|[[FIBA World Rankings]]
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!width=50|Change
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|style="text-align:left"| ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
|- bgcolor="#ccffcc"
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|style="text-align:left"| ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
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|'''4
|style="text-align:left"| ||  ||  ||  ||  ||   ||  ||
|- bgcolor="#ccffcc"
|'''5
|style="text-align:left"| {{bk|MEX}} || 2–2 || 289 || 289 || 0 || 24 ||  ||
|- bgcolor="#ccffcc"
|'''6
|style="text-align:left"| {{bk|PUR}} || 2–2 || 334 || 339 || -5 || 19 ||  ||
|- bgcolor="#ccffcc"
|'''7
|style="text-align:left"| {{bk|VEN}} || 2–2 || 254 || 309 || -55 || 17 ||  ||
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|'''8
|style="text-align:left"| {{bk|DOM}} || 1–3 || 305 || 316 || -11 || 20 ||  ||
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|'''9
|style="text-align:left"| {{bk|COL}} || 1–2 || 191 || 226 || -35 || 66 ||  ||
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|'''10
|style="text-align:left"| {{bk|URU}} || 0–3 || 208 || 230 || -22 || 40 ||  ||
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|'''11
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|width=10px bgcolor="#ccffcc"| || Qualified for the [[Basketball at the 2023 Pan American Games|2023 Pan American Games]]
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Is the placing of Dominican Republic right? Or are they gonna be 7th? And what team is the last to qualify to the [[Basketball at the 2023 Pan American Games|2023 Pan American Games]] [[User:ItsSimocity|ItsSimocity]] ([[User talk:ItsSimocity|talk]]) 02:37, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
:Per [https://reports.fiba.basketball/reports/2022/FIBA%20AmeriCup/2022-09-11/tournament-summary_20220911.pdf this] it is correct. They changed it. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 07:38, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
::[[User:Kante4|@Kante4]] i was the one that changed it [[User:ItsSimocity|ItsSimocity]] ([[User talk:ItsSimocity|talk]]) 10:42, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
:::With "they" i meant fiba. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 10:54, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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== Rudiger ==
He signed a pro contract in 2013, so he was officially part of the senior team since then. He only played 1 match in 2015 but as a member of the senior team. [[User:FCBWanderer|FCBWanderer]] ([[User talk:FCBWanderer|talk]]) 15:15, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

No we don't. We list the duration of the contract. The only exception are debuts from B teams to senior teams. For example Gavi is still listed as a player from the youth team, because he is technically a player from youth team. [[User:FCBWanderer|FCBWanderer]] ([[User talk:FCBWanderer|talk]]) 15:22, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

== [[2019 FIBA Under-19 Basketball World Cup#Bracket|2019 u-19 World Cup Bracket]] FIX ==

I tried to fix the bracket but ultimately just destroyed it, because I didn'tknow that it should be in a specific order e.g. 1v8, 2v7, etc. Please help me fix it. I don't really have time, I have 2 meetings. Thanks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_FIBA_Under-19_Basketball_World_Cup#Bracket [[User:ItsSimocity|ItsSimocity]] ([[User talk:ItsSimocity|talk]]) 00:26, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|ItsSimocity}} I reverted it. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 07:41, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

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== 3 refs ad Super Globe ==

Hey Kante

I'm watching the live stream https://www.media.gov.kw/LiveTV.aspx?PanChannel=KTVSports and there are three refs. Two field and one goal ref. Have you read something about this? So we are able to mention. [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Handball|🤾‍♂️]]&nbsp;[[User:Malo95|Malo95]] ([[User talk:Malo95|talk]]) 09:46, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Malo95}} Heyho, no i was earching for it but did not find anything in a quick search. Also, can you please add a ref for the broadcasting section. ;) [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 10:04, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

== FC Schalke 04 head coach ==

Hello {{u|Kante4}},

You have updated the head coach listed at [[FC Schalke 04]] to "Matthias Kreutzer (interim)" in the info box, and just "Matthias Kreutzer" in the table in the [[FC_Schalke_04#Corporate_structure|"corporate structure" section]]. Unfortunately, that table now no longer agrees with the corporate staff listed in the sources, and the "as of" date given in the article is wrong. Officially, Kreutzer is still an assistant coach.[https://schalke04.de/en/funktion/coaches-and-staff/] Personally, I would just leave it at "TBD" in both places, until a new coach is appointed. I have no problem with Kreutzer being listed in his interim function in the info box, but the corporate structure is a different matter, because as of now the information is inconsistent with the source, and the time listed (10 January 2022). Compare my two most recent edit summaries on [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=FC_Schalke_04&action=history that page's history]. Just changing the date to something like 26 October 2022 doesn't help, because other members of the staff have changed positions in the mean time.

I have now marked that section as "to be updated". If you want to help with that, you're welcome! [[User:Renerpho|Renerpho]] ([[User talk:Renerpho|talk]]) 13:25, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Renerpho}} Hey, i just added him as a coach and did not even see the "as of" template so my fault. Will be more carefully next time or just don't change the section(s). And yes, TBD would habe been better. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 15:30, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
::{{Ping|Renerpho}} Even better, i updated it now (not sure if Reha coach is the correct term though. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 15:36, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
:::{{re|Kante4}} Thanks! The technical term is "rehabilitation coach". I think "rehab coach" would be the common short form. [[User:Renerpho|Renerpho]] ([[User talk:Renerpho|talk]]) 16:14, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
::::{{Ping|Renerpho}} Thankls for the fix. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 16:18, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::{{re|Kante4}} No problem. Now let's see how many minutes/hours/days it takes for our work to become obsolete. Not too many, I hope.
:::::Glück auf! [[User:Renerpho|Renerpho]] ([[User talk:Renerpho|talk]]) 16:23, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::{{Ping|Renerpho}} By no means a Schalke fan. ;) :D [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 17:20, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::{{re|Kante4}} Nobody's perfect ;) [[User:Renerpho|Renerpho]] ([[User talk:Renerpho|talk]]) 17:46, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
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== Old results from Handball ECs ==

Hey Kante

I found by accident a [https://web.archive.org/web/20010413001850/http://handballeuros.awf.gda.pl:80/default.asp website] which has the match reports for the handball EC pre 2000.

For example this [https://web.archive.org/web/20001213203300/http://handballeuros.awf.gda.pl:80/ch_match.asp?ID=44&COUNTRY=135&MATCH=320 report] of the [[1994 European Men's Handball Championship]] which has more information as the [http://history.eurohandball.com/ech/men/1994/match/1/005 EHF report]. 
*List of all competitions: https://web.archive.org/web/20001210044800/http://handballeuros.awf.gda.pl/championship.asp
*List of all archived websites: https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://handballeuros.awf.gda.pl/*

Because I have not a lot of time the next couple of weeks I write you maybe you have time to add this reports to the articles.

I found this link via [https://web.archive.org/web/20001029125018/http://www.eurohandball.com/related_links.asp this EHF website] and it looks like that the University of Gdanks which hosted this website was responsible for the result page pre 2000. [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Handball|🤾‍♂️]]&nbsp;[[User:Malo95|Malo95]] ([[User talk:Malo95|talk]]) 13:46, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Malo95}} Nice find. Will see what i can do the next few weeks. I remember i started at the old articles but then left as time was not there anymore as much as it was. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 14:01, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

== 2023 FIBAWCQ ==

Why is Jordan not qualified yet, but all the teams are already eliminated? [[User:ItsSimocity|ItsSimocity]] ([[User talk:ItsSimocity|talk]]) 12:18, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|ItsSimocity}} Hello aswell. Per [https://menafn.com/1105226272/Jordan-Eyes-Basketball-World-Cup-Spot-Improves-In-FIBA-World-Rankings this] they need one more win, but not sure why. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 12:29, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
::Does that mean that [[2023 FIBA Basketball World Cup qualification]] is in error? - [[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 12:35, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|David Biddulph|ItsSimocity}} My fault, KSA is not out yet as they won the H2H against Jordan. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 12:42, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
::::Ok, then. [[User:ItsSimocity|ItsSimocity]] ([[User talk:ItsSimocity|talk]]) 13:17, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

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==Teams==
Hello. Because some teams participated in the Asian Games, can you create their article?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handball_at_the_Asian_Games - Men: Macau, Mongolia / Women: Maldives

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volleyball_at_the_Asian_Games - Men: Kyrgyzstan, Macau, Malaysia, North Yemen, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, South Yemen / Women: Maldives  

In addition, some have participated in regional competitions such as Arab or East Asian competitions.[[User:Tellako|Tellako]] ([[User talk:Tellako|talk]]) 06:29, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Tellako}} Those tournaments are not on my agenda so not my interest. But you can try it yourself. ;) [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 09:41, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Cacereno stadium capacity (2022-23 Real Madrid season) ==

As I heard, Cacereno has increased the stadium's capacity with some temporary seats specially for the match vs. Madrid [[User:Leprazoori|Leprazoori]] ([[User talk:Leprazoori|talk]]) 18:12, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

== [[2023 World Men's Handball Championship]] ==

Where did you find the match no's for the future matches so you were able to compose the match repor URLs? [[User:Sb008|Sb008]] ([[User talk:Sb008|talk]]) 23:47, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Sb008}} After the first day they publish the tournament summary on their mini-site [https://www.ihf.info/sites/default/files/competitions/7056e0a8-af84-4726-82cd-026a1e3a0562/pdf/SUMMARY.PDF]. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 09:57, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
:: Thx -[[User:Sb008|Sb008]] ([[User talk:Sb008|talk]]) 10:36, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

----

We have the follwing section headers:
* 31st place game
* 29th place game
* 27th place game
* 25th place game
* 5–8th place playoffs
* 5–8th place semifinals

The numbers are written in digits.

Also we have the section headers:
* Seventh place game
* Fifth place game
* Third place game

Thr numbers are written in words.

You know if there's a specific reason for this inconsistancy and not all are either in digits or words? --[[User:Sb008|Sb008]] ([[User talk:Sb008|talk]]) 13:57, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Sb008}} I normally don't "header" the second bracket. Numbers until 10 are written out per MOS (always thought it was 12/13, tbh). Fifth to Eighth place semifinals is pretty long and for many tournaments/events i used that format and never questioned it or someone so i never felt the urge to think about it. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 18:53, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

== Karim Benzema ==

Hello, Karim Benzema wasn't part of the Qatar 2022 France squad. So why would the 2022 World Cup appear in his honours ? [[User:Spectritus|Spectritus]] ([[User talk:Spectritus|talk]]) 19:46, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Spectritus}} He was never replaced, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_squads#France see here] with sources. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 19:52, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
::That doesn't change the fact he didn't play Qatar 2022 and that it has no reason to appear in his honours. [[User:Spectritus|Spectritus]] ([[User talk:Spectritus|talk]]) 19:55, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|Spectritus}} Check the talk page there for further input as this was discussed there, to not have him listed (and then his honours can be removed) or start a discussion at the footy project.. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 19:56, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
::::OK. Sorry if I disturbed you. [[User:Spectritus|Spectritus]] ([[User talk:Spectritus|talk]]) 20:02, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
:::::{{Ping|Spectritus}} Not at all, always happy when editors use the talk page. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 20:05, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

== IHF table ==

Hello! Just curious, shouldn't the West Germany gold medal be assigned to Germany? When i look at the official IHF website, it states that Germany has been a member since 1950, proving that they consider the West Germany association as Germany. As far as I know, it wasn't dissolved, so the German handball federation inherits the West German medals. I understand why East Germany is seperate, since it was a whole different association. It also has Germany as the number 1 ranked federation, which wouldn't be possible without West German accomplishments. They have a very weird ranking system which combines results from since IHF was a thing.
Would love to know your thoughts on this

https://www.ihf.info/member-federations/germany/115 [[User:Speun|Speun]] ([[User talk:Speun|talk]]) 17:10, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Speun}} Yeah, West Germany = Germany. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 17:19, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

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== [[Jesús Vallejo]] (and many many others) ==

Hi there, all well?

What about this guy? I think he may be a vandal! OK, Vallejo did not play in that tournament (LOL, he rarely ever plays!), but he was on the bench in the final! I have already reverted.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend, from Portugal [[Special:Contributions/2001:8A0:7643:2400:5506:56DC:AE7D:CF0C|2001:8A0:7643:2400:5506:56DC:AE7D:CF0C]] ([[User talk:2001:8A0:7643:2400:5506:56DC:AE7D:CF0C|talk]]) 16:17, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
:{{Ping|2001:8A0:7643:2400:5506:56DC:AE7D:CF0C}} Slow down, don't take everything personal. :D Looking at the squad list, he is not listed [https://web.archive.org/web/20171223004345/http://www.fifadata.com/documents/FCWC/2017/pdf/FCWC_2017_Squadlists.pdf here] and not on bench for the final [https://web.archive.org/web/20171217014727/http://resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/92/52/75/eng_08_1216_rma-gre_fulltime.pdf here]. So he should not have the honour if i am correct (and i want him to play more, he is good like we saw in Frankfurt). [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 16:21, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

OK, i think that i may be confusing that match with another [[BBC Sport]] report where i did see him on the bench (apart from yesterday's match, where his 15 minutes on the pitch did not compromise the final score). I have reverted myself, take care! --[[Special:Contributions/2001:8A0:7643:2400:5506:56DC:AE7D:CF0C|2001:8A0:7643:2400:5506:56DC:AE7D:CF0C]] ([[User talk:2001:8A0:7643:2400:5506:56DC:AE7D:CF0C|talk]]) 16:34, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
:No worries. [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 16:35, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

== BIH vs MAS IIHF ==

I delayed adding the penalty totals because they appear to be incorrect. They made the same mistake in an earlier game but fixed it by the time the final summary was published.  There are a few weird errors in other games too, but I am guessing besides you and I nobody much cares.[[User:18abruce|18abruce]] ([[User talk:18abruce|talk]]) 21:15, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
:{{Ping|18abruce}} Probably. :D We can wait for the final report. ;) [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 21:16, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
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== [[North Macedonia men's national handball team]] ==

On the page [[North Macedonia men's national handball team]] and some more pages, shouldn't it be [[pavle Atanasijevikj]] and [[Petar Atanasijevikj]] (twin brothers) instead of [[Pavle Atanasijevikj]] and [[Petar Atanasijevikj]]? See: [https://www.instagram.com/pavle_a/ Pavle] and [https://www.instagram.com/petar__09/ Petar]
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<!-- Template:Afd notice --></div> [[User:onel5969|'''<span style="color:#536895;">Onel</span><span style="color:#ffb300;">5969</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Onel5969|<i style="color:blue">TT me</i>]]</sup> 10:33, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

== Final standings in ice hockey articles ==

Hi Kante4. I think we could use section headings "Final standings" instead of just "Standings". I've been doing it this way for years. See '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&ns0=1&search=%22Final+standings%22+%22ice+hockey%22+intitle%3ADivision+intitle%3AWorld+-inline this list;]''' there are 100 articles in Wikipedia which contain tables with the title "Final standings". [[User:Maiō T.|Maiō T.]] ([[User talk:Maiō T.|talk]]) 11:07, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Maiō T.}} I think it's not needed, same as we don't use it at NHL/DEL or whatever leagues we have. I was consistent with the previous years when i edited the articles (senior tournaments) and did not see it used by anyone editing with me (did not check edits made after the tournament was over for a day or two.) [[User:Kante4|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4#top|talk]]) 11:25, 5 April 2023 (UTC)