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== September 2020 ==
[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]]. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view]]. Your recent edit to [[:Ram Mandir, Ayodhya]] seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User_talk:Kautilya3|my talk page]]. Thank you. <!-- Template:uw-npov1 --> [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 06:43, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
: Your new version was ok. But I also found problematic edits at [[Anti-Hindu sentiment]]. If you are going to continue to engage in contentious subjects, you need to thoroughly understand all the policies, especially [[WP:NPOV]]. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 09:32, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please do not add or change content without citing a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]]. Please review the guidelines at [[Wikipedia:Citing sources]] and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-unsourced2 --> <span style="background-color:#B2BEB5;padding:2px 12px 2px 12px;font-size:10px">[[User:Tayi Arajakate|<span style="color:#660000">'''Tayi Arajakate'''</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Tayi Arajakate|<span style="color:#660000">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sub></span> 16:16, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
@Tayi Arajakate, the sources used are from The Quint website, twitter account, Huffington Post, Yahoo News India. Which specific source is unreliable? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Liberalvedantin|Liberalvedantin]] ([[User talk:Liberalvedantin#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liberalvedantin|contribs]]) 16:26, 21 September 2020 (UTC)</small>
:Please read the reliable sources guideline linked above. Most of the sources you have used are primary sources and can not be used to establish due weightage, some of them are also unreliable. <span style="background-color:#B2BEB5;padding:2px 12px 2px 12px;font-size:10px">[[User:Tayi Arajakate|<span style="color:#660000">'''Tayi Arajakate'''</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Tayi Arajakate|<span style="color:#660000">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sub></span> 16:34, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
: [[User:Tayi Arajakate|Tayi Arajakate]] Secondary source added to content. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Liberalvedantin|Liberalvedantin]] ([[User talk:Liberalvedantin#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liberalvedantin|contribs]]) 17:01, 21 September 2020 (UTC)</small>
::The source that you added states the following, at best the only direct relation is the mention of one of his article in ''[[The Quint]]''. 
::{{talkquote|Sharma, a veteran freelance journalist specializing in national security, foreign policy, and Indian political issues, has written for a variety of outlets, including the Quint, Rediff, Firstpost and dailyO, among others. He has also worked for prominent Indian newspapers like the Hindustan Times and Times of India in the past, a Press Trust of India report notes. (Disclosure: Sharma regularly contributed to The Diplomat until 2012.) Between 2010 and 2014, Sharma also wrote a weekly column for the CCP-affiliated tabloid Global Times, the Delhi Police noted in its statement.}}
::This does not constitute [[WP:UNDUE|due weight]] for inclusion in an article about ''The Quint''. Per se, it is also a violation of [[WP:BLPCRIME]], mention of supposed crimes of non notable individuals should not be added anywhere on Wikipedia unless at least widely covered and should be directly related to the topic of an article. On a sidenote, please [[WP:SIGN|sign your comments]] on talk pages. <span style="background-color:#B2BEB5;padding:2px 12px 2px 12px;font-size:10px">[[User:Tayi Arajakate|<span style="color:#660000">'''Tayi Arajakate'''</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Tayi Arajakate|<span style="color:#660000">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sub></span> 17:22, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
: While I disagree with your interpretation on it carrying weight, and that it has not been 'widely' covered, which I find to be an ambiguous term (see Yahoo News India, TimesNowNews, ANI on Twitter), the content will not be posted on this page. [[User:Liberalvedantin|Liberalvedantin]] ([[User talk:Liberalvedantin#top|talk]]) 17:31, 21 September 2020 (UTC)Liberalvedantin

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: I just had a couple of these notices posted to my talk page.  FWIW, I have noticed certain unnamed users who seem to have as a technique, diversion of attention from the fact that they have previously received warnings, by removing any warnings they do receive from their talk page  (i.e. I posted a warning to their page and they promptly deleted it.)  Anyway, this seems to be just an obviously intimidating practice.  Anybody can generally post anything they want, and what they want to post is something that looks very official and which looks like (notwithstanding the explicit disclaimer to the contrary) it somehow is particularly applicable to you. 
: Simply being put "on notice" of your obligation to abide by these administrative rulings appears to place a burden on you to make sense out of these pages,  and IMO, that would, in itself, be an onerous requirement (i.e. I could not quickly surmise whether any special rules are currently in effect.
: Do the people posting these notices have any special authority?  And assuming they do, is there a consensus among their peers (i.e. those with a similar level of authority) concur with them?  Is there any procedure to report such behavior?  If you find out, please let me know.  Tks. [[User:Fabrickator|Fabrickator]] ([[User talk:Fabrickator|talk]]) 16:47, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
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::{{u|Fabrickator}}, anyone can post them. The sanctions were set by the [[WP:Arbitration Committee]] so they are official. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 17:19, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

== October 2020 ==
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New York Times and The Atlantic are not reliable? I do not see in the guidelines how what I added is unreliable? [[User:Liberalvedantin|Liberalvedantin]] ([[User talk:Liberalvedantin#top|talk]]) 18:49, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

I see that the article is full of news sources from The Hindu and Al-Jazeera. I have also used The Hindu as a source. How are those other sources reliable but not the ones I have used?  [[User:Liberalvedantin|Liberalvedantin]] ([[User talk:Liberalvedantin#top|talk]]) 18:59, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
==Your contributed article, [[:Hinduphobia in Academia]]==
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[[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=Warning icon]] Please stop your [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing|disruptive editing]]. If you continue to [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#EDIT|delete or edit]] legitimate talk page comments, as you did at [[:User talk:Fabrickator]], you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. <!-- Template:uw-tpv3 --> —&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 10:54, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

:Rather, please stop making baseless accusations. I did not start the Hinduphobia in Academia page in response to Love Jihad disputes. Do not bring personal vendetta into this. The article was initially created as a portal about a month ago, before any edits were make to the Love Jihad page. The portal page was deleted and that is why I shifted the contents to an article form. When I start the page, it is to start discussion. Based on the available sources, there is little to dispute the contentions that have been leveled, which is why the page seems to suffer from neutrality. I am currently resolving this by adding other sources. So kindly hold your biases back. [[User:Liberalvedantin|Liberalvedantin]] ([[User talk:Liberalvedantin#top|talk]]) 02:42, 9 October 2020 (UTC)Liberalvedantin
::I also don't understand what you mean by delete or edit legitimate talk page comments? I have done nothing of the sort, so either this is a misunderstanding or another baseless accusation. Please verify before you post such content on my talk page. Thank you. [[User:Liberalvedantin|Liberalvedantin]] ([[User talk:Liberalvedantin#top|talk]]) 03:10, 9 October 2020 (UTC)Liberalvedantin

== Nomination of [[:Hinduphobia in academia]] for deletion ==
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:The article has been edited to address the concerns, however, those making the concerns also have said they did not read the sources properly or could not access the sources. This is not a justifiable reason to critique the source itself. [[User:Liberalvedantin|Liberalvedantin]] ([[User talk:Liberalvedantin#top|talk]]) 03:12, 9 October 2020 (UTC)Liberalvedantin
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== BMAC ==

For your understanding: the Indo-Aryans migrated to the BMAC,borrowed vocabulary from this culture, but did not mix with it's people. That's why the BMAC left no genetical trace in the Indian population. [[User:Joshua Jonathan|<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">Joshua Jonathan</span>]] -[[User talk:Joshua Jonathan|<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Let's talk!</span>]] 05:22, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

I know this. But the page was missing info about source of south Asian ancestry, which is the theme of that section. [[User:Liberalvedantin|Liberalvedantin]] ([[User talk:Liberalvedantin#top|talk]]) 05:28, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

== June 2021 ==

[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:Joshua Jonathan|Joshua Jonathan]]. I noticed that you made a comment on the page [[:Talk:Indigenous Aryanism]] that didn't seem very [[Wikipedia:Civility|civil]]. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User_talk:Joshua Jonathan|my talk page]]. ''[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Indigenous_Aryanism&curid=8451090&diff=1029310323&oldid=1029302617 This] change of wording by you is definitely a personal attack. You brought in "Hinduism" at [[Talk:Indo-Aryan migrations#Changing it to a theory]], I wrote "the system is not very kind for Dalits, is it?" "System" here does not refer to Hinduism, but to the Indian societal system; you equate it with "HInduism." Next you write "Imagine if someone said Islam is a terrorist ideology. Catholicism promotes pedophilia." Those are ''your'' comments, not mine. Please refrain from such comments. [[User:Joshua Jonathan|<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">Joshua Jonathan</span>]] -[[User talk:Joshua Jonathan|<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Let's talk!</span>]] 06:12, 19 June 2021 (UTC)'' <!-- Template:uw-npa1 --> [[User:Joshua Jonathan|<span style="font-family:Forte;color:black">Joshua Jonathan</span>]] -[[User talk:Joshua Jonathan|<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Let's talk!</span>]] 06:12, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Stop spamming my page. [[User:Liberalvedantin|Liberalvedantin]] ([[User talk:Liberalvedantin#top|talk]]) 23:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

If you were talking about the "Indian societal system" as you claim, it was a nonsequitor. We are talking about Hinduism.  [[User:Liberalvedantin|Liberalvedantin]] ([[User talk:Liberalvedantin#top|talk]]) 23:42, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

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:Not surprising which side you chose. Have you also blocked Joshua Jonathan for saying I ranted, or is that not a personal attack? Or the user with no name who called me "crazy" and a "nationalist"? Surely there was nothing personal about that. [[User:Liberalvedantin|Liberalvedantin]] ([[User talk:Liberalvedantin#top|talk]]) 09:25, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
::Why do you think I didn't block the IP? You checked? JJ wasn't responding to you in that 18 month old post, why do you say he was? Please explain how I chose sides. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 09:36, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
:::I didn't say you didn't block the IP. I asked whether you did or not. You deemed what I said to be a personal attack, when all I did was point out that the sentence in question is racist, which it is, and that JJ refuses to change it despite my request to remove the word "Indian" in it because it is not relevant and enables prejudice, which I can see from the reply to my comment posted recently. Ergo, you seem to have been swayed. 
:::As for JJ saying that I ranted, I was referring to an older conversation where he said my points were a rant. Is that constructive dialog? If so, allow me to accuse everyone I disagree with of ranting. [[User:Liberalvedantin|Liberalvedantin]] ([[User talk:Liberalvedantin#top|talk]]) 16:54, 15 February 2023 (UTC)