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{{User:Misza13/Archive Header|header=Archive for May 2012}}

== Views on amending frequency of archiving during disputes ==

Hi there, I'm not sure if this is the right place to come to but i'd be grateful for views on the discussion at [[Talk:Pogrom#Archiving]]. We are discussing whether it is appropriate for anyone to change the timing of Miszabot to a short period (a) whilst they are involved in recent talk discussions which may get archived; and (b) in the face of opposition. Thank you for your help. [[User:Oncenawhile|Oncenawhile]] ([[User talk:Oncenawhile|talk]]) 23:09, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
:I have left an opinion.<br/><span style="text-shadow:#294 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; class=texhtml">[[User:Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text; font-size:x-small;"><b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b></span>]]</span> 23:42, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
::Thank you very much. I have done my best to answer your questions - further thoughts would be appreciated. [[User:Oncenawhile|Oncenawhile]] ([[User talk:Oncenawhile|talk]]) 18:46, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
== lost ani archives ==

Please see [[Wikipedia_talk:Administrators'_noticeboard#lost_ani_archive]], your bot has lost a couple ANI threads. --[[User:Enric Naval|Enric Naval]] ([[User talk:Enric Naval|talk]]) 11:15, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

== More eyes ==

...requested at [[User talk:DoctorJoeE|this user's talk page]]. I was trying to get their archiving working right from where it was sending them to dev/null but now it seems to not want to work at all. What am I missing?<br/><span style="text-shadow:#294 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; class=texhtml">[[User:Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text; font-size:x-small;"><b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b></span>]]</span> 20:56, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

:Similar problem but with [[User talk:W.D.|this user]]; it is still sending to dev/null. I wonder if it has to do with the periods in the name. I substituted the char mappings from html for a period (<code>&#46;</code>) but I wonder if I shouldn't be using the backslash as an escape sequence (\.) for each period. This bot is written in perl right?<br/><span style="text-shadow:#294 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; class=texhtml">[[User:Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text; font-size:x-small;"><b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b></span>]]</span> 21:34, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
== Unanswered question about search box ==

On [[User talk:MiszaBot/config]] there's a question about how to add a search box to the archive box. Could someone please answer it? __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 17:41, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
:It is from 2009 and the user hasn't edited since that year. I have redirected that talk page to this one.<br/><span style="text-shadow:#294 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; class=texhtml">[[User:Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text; font-size:x-small;"><b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b></span>]]</span> 21:03, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
::OK, but post the sections here so they can be answered and/or archived. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 21:15, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
:::Okay, they follow below...<br/><span style="text-shadow:#294 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; class=texhtml">[[User:Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text; font-size:x-small;"><b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b></span>]]</span> 22:48, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

===Is a search box possible===
Is there anyway to add a search box to the output, for example:

<pre>
{{User:MiszaBot/config
|archiveheader = {{Arbitration enforcement/Archive navbox}}
|maxarchivesize = 200K
|counter = 41
|algo = old(2d)
|archive = Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive%(counter)d
}}
</pre>

would have:

<inputbox>
bgcolor=
type=fulltext
prefix=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement
break=yes
width=20
searchbuttonlabel=Search archives
</inputbox>

<pre>
<inputbox>
bgcolor=
type=fulltext
prefix=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement
break=yes
width=20
searchbuttonlabel=Search archives
</inputbox>
</pre>

...added to the bottom.

How are editors currently integrating search boxes into the MiszaBot/config  archive box?

Thanks. [[User:Odessaukrain|Odessaukrain]] ([[User talk:Odessaukrain|talk]]) 14:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I believe the solution to this is {{tl|Search archives}} [[User:Brad101|Brad]] ([[User talk:Brad101|talk]]) 00:35, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
=== Small problem ===

I'm not sure if this page is monitored, but there seems to be a problem with the template recognizing non-numeric archive names. See [[User talk:Alanbly|my talk]] for an example. [[User:Alanbly|Adam McCormick]] ([[User talk:Alanbly|talk]]) 23:09, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

== Archive error ==

You should not have archived my apology to a user to help resolve a conflict.   Your robot algorithm needs to be refined to archive what needs to be archived and not archive what should not be archived.  [[User:Coviepresb1647|Coviepresb1647]] ([[User talk:Coviepresb1647|talk]]) 02:15, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
:Hahahahahaha! Sorry, but [[Artificial intelligence|are you suggesting]]... Hahahahaha! Thanks, this will be the highlight of my day. &mdash;[[User:Misza13|Миша]][[User talk:Misza13|<span style="color:green">'''13'''</span>]] 07:16, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
:How should it be refined? Why should it ''not'' have archived your apology?<br/><span style="text-shadow:#294 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; class=texhtml">[[User:Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text; font-size:x-small;"><b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b></span>]]</span> 21:12, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

:This ''is'' hilarious. [[User:Brad101|Brad]] ([[User talk:Brad101|talk]]) 00:35, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
== [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard]] ==

[[Itsachat]]'s thread on the forum is over a week old.  Has the bot gone on vacation?  Has the archive formula for that page changed?[[User:Curb Chain|Curb Chain]] ([[User talk:Curb Chain|talk]]) 06:29, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
:I see that both MiszaBot and ClueBot are set to archive the same page. Me thinks people should decide which one they want to use first. ClueBot is set for 720 hours which is 30 days and MiszaBot is set for 24 hours. [[User:Brad101|Brad]] ([[User talk:Brad101|talk]]) 07:08, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

:The [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ADispute_resolution_noticeboard&diff=493544319&oldid=493534148 DNAU] was not removed when the thread was closed. [[User:Brad101|Brad]] ([[User talk:Brad101|talk]]) 19:15, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
::I just found six more threads that were closed but still had the DNAU tag in place; I removed tham. That's the issue here; remove the DNAU tag when closing a discussion. [[User:Brad101|Brad]] ([[User talk:Brad101|talk]]) 02:10, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

== Problem with bot ==

The bot's having trouble with archiving my talk page properly, and it's had problems before up to the extent it just stopped doing it. I am almost certain it is to do with the empty topic that starts it off, or the second topic after that which is titled ":)" and contains just a bit o text (forget who it's from now but not me!). 

Could you take a look when you feel like it?

Cheers,

<span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">[[User:Egg Centric|<span style="color:#222222;">Egg</span>]] [[User_talk:Egg Centric|<span style="color:#7D7D7D;">Centri</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Egg Centric|<span style="color:#FFFFFF;">c</span>]]</span> 20:58, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
:Please explain what ''The bot's having trouble'' means. Your talk page as of this post has no discussions older than 7 days which is what you have the bot set for. Sections that don't have time stamps don't get archived. [[User:Brad101|Brad]] ([[User talk:Brad101|talk]]) 22:37, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
== Archiving at RS/N ==

This might be a short topic, summarily dismissed, I'm ok with that {{-)}}. Over at RSN there's a small discussion about what to do with "resolved" issues, sometimes as you can imagine, the RSN page gets a little long. It was decided not to use {{tl|Cot}} (or {{tl|hat}}) because it has search problems (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Hidden_archive_top#Search_problem_with_hatting here] for details). What, if any, thoughts do you have on adding a parameter that automatically expands the Cots when it archives (by adding the expand parameter to them) to avoid the search problem? --[[User:Despayre| <b style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#000 0em 0em 0.4em,#D00 -0.2em -0.2em 0.4em,#D00 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;color:#ACF"> Despayre </b>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User_talk:Despayre|tête-à-tête]]</sup> 18:22, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

:D  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.218.232.140|98.218.232.140]] ([[User talk:98.218.232.140|talk]]) 20:53, 25 May 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Teahouse guest bot ==

Hi! I'd like to apply an archive bot to [[Wikipedia:Teahouse/Guests/Right column|Teahouse/Guests/Right column]] and [[Wikipedia:Teahouse/Guests/Left column|Teahouse/Guests/Left column]], sending the old content of both of those to [[Wikipedia:Teahouse/Guest book|Teahouse/Guest book]] (instead of a typical archive), do I need a key for that? Thanks for your fantastic time-saving work!! [[User:Heatherawalls|heather walls]] ([[User talk:Heatherawalls|talk]]) 19:43, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

== Problem with archiving ==

On the [[Talk:Seamus incident]] page, the bot archives material, but fails to add a link to the new folder (e.g., "Archive 6") where the archived material is located.  The link has to be manually added by an editor.  Can you fix this? [[User:NJ Wine|NJ Wine]] ([[User talk:NJ Wine|talk]]) 21:23, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
:It's probably caused by there not being any archive pages numbered 1-4. Archiving was changed from dated to numerical starting with 5. Another clue this is the problem is the talkheader template not displaying archives. It needs to start with 1. Best suggestion is move the dated archives to the missing numbers. January to 1; Feb to 2 etc. [[User:Brad101|Brad]] ([[User talk:Brad101|talk]]) 23:38, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
::I fixed the problem.  Thank you for your help. [[User:NJ Wine|NJ Wine]] ([[User talk:NJ Wine|talk]]) 02:27, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
== Why was first thread at [[Talk:Bacon mania]] not archived? ==

Seems to date from 2010 to me and bot set to archive after 60 days. Other threads were archived. <span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">[[User:Egg Centric|<span style="color:#222222;">Egg</span>]] [[User_talk:Egg Centric|<span style="color:#7D7D7D;">Centri</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Egg Centric|<span style="color:#FFFFFF;">c</span>]]</span> 02:48, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
[[File:Bacon and eggs.jpg|thumb|The relationship isn't lost on us here...]]
:That doesn't seem out of place considering the datestamps which were on the threads that just archived. Interestingly, I'm wondering what the bot did with [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bacon_mania&diff=389807345&oldid=389755099 these 8 threads]..oops. I've restored them to the archive sans one blacklisted url. I would expect the first thread to archive the next time.<br/><span style="text-shadow:#294 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; class=texhtml">[[User:Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text; font-size:x-small;"><b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b></span>]]</span> 14:57, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
:Btw, can't help but notice the irony of who is reporting this....damn, now I'm hungry...time to go make a breakfast sandwich.<br/><span style="text-shadow:#294 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; class=texhtml">[[User:Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text; font-size:x-small;"><b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b></span>]]</span> 15:04, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
::I'm not sure what you mean by not out of place. It was newer than the threads that were archived, but it is still an old thread, much older than the threshold that has been set up of sixty days...

::Note that I don't care about the thread being archived one way or the other - I'm just highlighting it in case there's a bug in the bot. <span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">[[User:Egg Centric|<span style="color:#222222;">Egg</span>]] [[User_talk:Egg Centric|<span style="color:#7D7D7D;">Centri</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Egg Centric|<span style="color:#FFFFFF;">c</span>]]</span> 16:46, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

:::It hasn't archived yet because the minthreadsleft is set to 3.<br/><span style="text-shadow:#294 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; class=texhtml">[[User:Berean Hunter|<span style="font-family:High Tower Text; font-size:x-small;"><b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b></span>]]</span> 17:47, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
::::Bloody bot, doing exactly what it was supposed to! <span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">[[User:Egg Centric|<span style="color:#222222;">Egg</span>]] [[User_talk:Egg Centric|<span style="color:#7D7D7D;">Centri</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Egg Centric|<span style="color:#FFFFFF;">c</span>]]</span> 22:02, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

== Bad Bot ==

The bot archiving the EVP talk page at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Electronic_voice_phenomenon] is not updating the history box. it just made Archive 14 and the last one shown is Archive 11. Can this be fixed? [[User:Tom Butler|Tom Butler]] ([[User talk:Tom Butler|talk]]) 01:14, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
:Not the fault of the bot. The archives for that article are setup incorrectly as they're <code>/Archive1</code> instead of <code>/Archive 1</code> and so on down the line. You can either move all of the archive pages to the correct path or continue adding the new archive pages to the history box manually. Note that the setting <code>|archive = Talk:Electronic voice phenomenon/Archive%(counter)d</code> should be changed to <code>|archive = Talk:Electronic voice phenomenon/Archive %(counter)d</code> if it's decided to revamp the archives. [[User:Brad101|Brad]] ([[User talk:Brad101|talk]]) 02:27, 30 May 2012 (UTC)