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Sorry, I had to revert your changes to [[Sacred Heart]]. Please familiarize yourself first with how Wikipedia works. Fact, and only fact, relying on mentioned independent sources. After learning, please make small edits first. I'm always sorry when I have to undo the efforts of someone with good intentions, so please conform with the guidelines. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:39, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

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I'm a newbie.  I've done the online guided tour.  I added some sections to an article but it was removed.  Here's the information I received: "Sorry, I had to revert your changes to Sacred Heart. Please familiarize yourself first with how Wikipedia works. Fact, and only fact, relying on mentioned independent sources. After learning, please make small edits first. I'm always sorry when I have to undo the efforts of someone with good intentions, so please conform with the guidelines. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:39, 18 November 2019 (UTC)"

I think I've done what she mentioned.  The only thing was I did not make small edits first.

Please help me with getting my article posted.

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[[User:Shenaw2016|Shenaw2016]] ([[User talk:Shenaw2016#top|talk]]) 11:08, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
:You've asked this in a few places, and have been answered. Please only use one method of seeking assistance. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 11:24, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

=== Sacred Heart ===
I suggest we go in small portions, because - as said above - someone confronted with 10 edits of complex changes with obvious formatting errors will go the easy way and revert it all.

Please tell me here what you want to add to the article, with formatted references, and begin with just '''one fact''', supported by one reference. I'll look and comment. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:35, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

====Enthronement of the Sacred Heart of Jesus====
=====Act of Enthroning the Sacred Heart in a Home or Other Place=====
The Enthronement is placing an image of the Sacred Heart of Jesus in a place of honor in the home after a time of prayerful preparation.<ref>{{cite book
 |last=Larkin SS.CC.
 |first=Rev. Francis
 |date=1999
 |title=Enthronement of the Sacred Heart
 |url=None
 |location=
 |publisher=National Sacred Heart Enthronement Center
 |page=7
 |isbn=0-8198-05330-0
 |author-link=None
}}</ref>[[User:Shenaw2016|Shenaw2016]] ([[User talk:Shenaw2016#top|talk]]) 10:48, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

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== Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:Sacred Heart Enthronement Network|Sacred Heart Enthronement Network]] (August 11) ==
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== Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:Sacred Heart Enthronement Network|Sacred Heart Enthronement Network]] (August 17) ==
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== Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:Sacred Heart Enthronement Network|Sacred Heart Enthronement Network]] (August 18) ==
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== Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:Sacred Heart Enthronement Network|Sacred Heart Enthronement Network]] (November 16) ==
<div style="border: solid 1px #FCC; background-color: #F8EEBC; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: #000; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> [[File:AFC-Logo_Decline.svg|50px|left]]Your recent article submission to [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for Creation]] has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time.<nowiki> </nowiki>The reason left by Mikehawk10 was:

{{divbox|gray|3=This submission's references do not show that the subject [[Wikipedia:Notability|qualifies for a Wikipedia article]]—that is, they do not show ''significant'' coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in ''published'', [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources|''reliable'']], [[Wikipedia:No_original_research#Secondary|''secondary'']] sources that are ''[[Wikipedia:Identifying and using independent sources|independent]]'' of the subject (see the [[Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)|guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies]]). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see [[Help:Referencing for beginners|technical help]] and learn about [[Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability)|mistakes to avoid]] when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.|}}<!--
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{{divbox|blue|3=The practice of enthroning the Sacred Heart of Jesus itself seems to be given [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]] by the sources present. However, the same cannot be said about the network.

I fail to see how the coverage here satisfies [[WP:ORGDEPTH]]. The organization's founding is dated in this article as 2015; while there are five offline sources, two of them predate this and are extremely unlikely to describe this ''network''. A third, while it's published by Notre Dame's Catholic press, is written by Emily Jaminet and thus can't be independent. Likewise, Emily Jaminet's writings in ''Word on Fire'' can't be considered to be [[WP:ORGIND|independent]]. ''Sacred Heart Missionary talks'' fails [[WP:V]] unless these talks exist in some form of recording thereof (see the [[WP:PUBLISH|published sources information page]] for more info around that), and thus wouldn't contribute towards notability.

Of the online sources: {{unordered list|The piece in ''The Catholic Herald'' does not mention the network in-depth;|[https://d2y1pz2y630308.cloudfront.net/15206/documents/2020/6/June%207%202020.pdf ''Catholic Times''] piece #1 reads almost like an advertisement and it makes me skeptical that there's [[WP:ORGIND|independence]] between the Catholic diocesan newspaper and the network;| |[https://columbuscatholic.org/documents/2019/6/June%2016%202019.pdf ''Catholic Times''] piece #2 contains maybe four sentences that could [[WP:ORGIND]] that are related to the ''network'' and is thus not in-depth even if the newspaper were independent;|Emily Jaminet's piece in ''National Catholic Reporter'' is plainly [https://www.ncregister.com/features/strengthening-the-family-through-the-sacred-heart not independent] of the network;|;|[https://catholicfreepress.org/news/men-of-the-sacred-hearts-enthrone ''Catholic Free Press''] doesn't mention the network itself, so it doesn't contribute towards notability;|[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iyB357Tar0 The EWTN] source is plainly a talk show that's hawking an advertisement for enthronements.com. Some ''EWTN''-affiliated reporting is [[WP:NEWSORG]]-level and contributes towards notability (particularly its ''Catholic News Agency'' online stories), but that online video source is not.}}

In short, the network itself fails to meet [[WP:ORGCRIT]] based off of the coverage currently in the article. It appears to be the case that an article on ''Sacred Heart enthronement'' would pass [[WP:GNG]] based on the sources present, but it doesn't appear that this particular organization passes the guideline based on the sources present.

My advice would be to create an article on the practice of enthronement itself (I can't find one), if you'd like to re-use some of the content already here.}} Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer.  You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit ''when they have been resolved''.
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