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== No, it wasn't a mistake ==

I saw your edit comment [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Puntledge_River&diff=556717972&oldid=556716925 here] and no, the user who blanked the page was right in doing so; the Puntledge River is ''named'' for the Pentlatch people, it's ''not'' a name for the Puntledge River.  Why did you ever think to redirect it to that, instead of looking up the river and writing a river-stub? - i.e. instead of sending it to a dimly-related topic?  Maybe you should think/ research before you create such redirects in future; the Puntledge needs an article, I don't have time today....[http://apps.gov.bc.ca/pub/bcgnws/names/21344.html here's the main cite], make yourself useful.  the [[Pentlatch]] ''people'' need a separate article from the language one, too, but....merging and redirecting things that don't belong together is so common I won't comment further; just a waste of someone else's time.[[User:Skookum1|Skookum1]] ([[User talk:Skookum1|talk]]) 09:03, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
:I'm sorry I couldn't figure out it was not a mistake, because blanking a page without an explanation is not really a solution to any problem in my opinion. Also, you may want to notice that I did not redirect the page myself, but the page was already a redirect (and it was created in December 2012). This means that I have nothing against the page being a redirect or an actual, independent article, but I cannot stand a ''blank'' article-space page, which is why I simply ''reverted'' Thricecube's edit (rather than redirecting the page myself). I'm sorry for my laziness, owing to which I did not look into the topic at all, let alone researching it. '''''[[User:Smtchahal|<span style="background:#39F;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">smt<span style="background-color:#36F">cha<span style="background-color:#39F">hal</span></span></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smtchahal|talk]]</sup>''''' 12:55, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
::I wound up creating [[Puntledge River]] myself.[[User:Skookum1|Skookum1]] ([[User talk:Skookum1|talk]]) 09:25, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
==Restoring prods==
Hi

I noticed on [[Mikaela Phillips]] you restored a [[WP:prod|prod]] tag after a user removed it.  This is not how prod works.  A prod tag should only ever be added once.  If you want to continue to have an article deleted after anyone at all disagrees with a prod, then you should go to an AFD next.  In the case of this article that is what happened, so there is no outstanding issues with this article.  [[User:Graeme Bartlett|Graeme Bartlett]] ([[User talk:Graeme Bartlett|talk]]) 12:14, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
:Well, it took you quite a while to notice it, because I did it over 3 months ago. I can't remember it, but I'm sure I did do it because you're an administrator and can see deleted stuff (and I'm also sure you're not lying). I do know that's not how prod works; although more recently, I placed a prod tag on an article after its AfD's result came out as "no consensus" and was obviously denied the prod because apparently a previously AfDed article cannot be PRODed. Now that was something I needed a warning for, if anything, because it happened only the last month. I do know that a prod tag shouldn't be replaced once removed (even if by the page creator) and the article should be AfDed instead (and I assure you that I've known this for at least over a month), but thank you for the heads-up, anyway. And I'm not sure I ever did anything to make you believe that I thought there were any outstanding issues with the now-non-existent article. '''''[[User:Smtchahal|<span style="background:#39F;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">smt<span style="background-color:#36F">cha<span style="background-color:#39F">hal</span></span></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smtchahal|talk]]</sup>''''' 07:31, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
== Request for Freddie A. Laker article ==

Hi Smtchahal! Back in early June you helped me create the '''[[Freddie A. Laker]]''' article via AfC and I was wondering if you would be able to help me with three small updates to the article? I'd make these changes myself but I have a COI as I wrote the article for Freddie's company, Guide, so it wouldn't be appropriate for me to make edits directly.

First, (and I feel very silly about this) I mistakenly left out that Freddie worked for his father's company, Laker Airways, early in his career. I've highlighted the change I'd suggest for the first paragraph of the ''[[Freddie_A._Laker#Early_career|Early career]]'' section. This information is supported by the current reference so all that needs to be updated is the text. Would you be able to make the following change?

:Freddie Laker began his career after dropping out of college and {{hilite|joining his father's company, [[Laker Airways]]. The same year, he became}} a [[disc jockey|DJ]] for ''The Womb'', a Miami-based [[pirate radio]] station.<ref name=FWA07>{{cite web |url=http://www.thefwa.com/interview/interview-283-with-freddie-laker/q=freddie%20laker |title=Interviews Freddie Laker - SapientNitro |date=9 July 2007 |work=thefwa.com |publisher=[[The Favorite Website Awards]] |accessdate=18 January 2013}}</ref> After being shut down by the [[Federal Communications Commission]] (FCC), the radio station used the Internet to transfer the signal between two antennas, making it the world's first 24 hour [[Internet radio]] station.<ref name=Newman13>{{cite news |title=Freddie Laker of Guide Looks into the Future |author=Kira M. Newman |url=http://tech.co/freddie-laker-of-guide-looks-into-the-future-video-2013-03  |work=[[Tech Cocktail]] |date=24 March 2013 |accessdate=8 May 2013}}</ref><ref name=FWA07/><ref name=Madden10/> Laker has credited the media attention surrounding this event with launching his career.<ref name=FWA07/>

Second, it was brought to my attention that is not the sole founder of the Society of Digital Agencies, though you'll see that the [http://adage.com/china/article/people-players/sapientnitros-freddie-laker/144178/ AdAge source] I've used in the ''[[Freddie_A._Laker#Other_roles|Other roles]]'' section only mentions Freddie as a founder. However, from looking at the [http://sodaspeaks.com/about/ Society of Digital Agencies website] it appears that there were actually 13 co-founders. Do you think it would be appropriate to replace "the founder" with "a co-founder" in this section even though the source doesn't use the word co-founder?

Third, when you search "[[Freddie Laker]]" on Wikipedia you land on his father's article and there is no way to get to this new Freddie A. Laker article from there. Would you be able to add a hat note to the article? I've put together the following hat note and markup for you to add if it looks OK.

:{{About|the founder of the airline [[Laker Airways]]|the founder of the software company [[Guide (software company)|Guide]]|Freddie A. Laker}}
:<nowiki>{{About|the founder of the airline [[Laker Airways]]|the founder of the software company [[Guide (software company)|Guide]]|Freddie A. Laker}}</nowiki>

I'd also like to add a wikilink to this new article from Freddie's name (Freddie Allen Laker) in the last sentence of the last paragraph of the ''[[Freddie_Laker#Biography|Biography]]'' section. Can you make this change too?

Thanks for taking a look at these, and sorry I missed these few things in creating the article. I wanted to contact you first since you were already familiar with the article, but please let me know if you're busy right now and prefer I ask elsewhere. Thanks, [[User:16912_Rhiannon|16912 Rhiannon]] ([[User talk:16912_Rhiannon|Talk]] &middot; [[User:16912_Rhiannon|COI]])  17:18, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
:I'm sorry for the much belated reply and regret to say you'd need to contact someone else&hellip; I won't be editing Wikipedia too often for some time now. '''''[[User:Smtchahal|<span style="background:#39F;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">smt<span style="background-color:#36F">cha<span style="background-color:#39F">hal</span></span></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smtchahal|talk]]</sup>''''' 12:54, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
::No problem, Smtchahal and thanks for the reply. I'll see if I can find someone else to assist. Thanks, [[User:16912_Rhiannon|16912 Rhiannon]] ([[User talk:16912_Rhiannon|Talk]] &middot; [[User:16912_Rhiannon|COI]])  15:57, 17 July 2013 (UTC)