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== Hello ==

This is my first Archive page. Please don't edit it! [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09|talk]]) 10:37, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

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:Hello, Trafford09. I don't have enough experience on Wikipedia to adopt users, but if you are interested, you can find other more experienced people who are looking for adoptees on [[Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User/Adoptee's Area]]. I welcomed you not because you made any mistake, but because I was patrolling the new changes page ([[Wikipedia:Recent changes patrol]]) and I noticed that you had made some good-quality edits and I decided to welcome you; it was not any edit in special, but all of them together (I didn't look into all of them, just some). I see no problem in using the talkpages to communicate; I don't read the email very often, so I prefer to use the talk pages, if you don't mind. Best wishes, --[[User:Anna Lincoln|Anna Lincoln]] ([[User talk:Anna Lincoln|talk]]) 09:12, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

::Hi Anna.  That's fine, and thanks again for the welcome and tips, e.g. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 10:03, 25 February 2009 (UTC) !

== Hi ==

Hi Trafford09.  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Meandv|Meandv]] ([[User talk:Meandv|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Meandv|contribs]]) 16:02, 20 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Mumbai Reverts ==

(This section was added by Suyogaerospace, to reply to my query on his page about the topic.  
I've inserted my original query here too, for clarity.)   [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 09:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

My actual change to the [[Mumbai]] page was, following an existing sentence referring to "Mumbai's ... better standard of living ... attract migrants" to add this direct quote from the BBC:  "[However,] around half of Mumbai's population live in slums." I included a proper reference to the article [ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7909660.stm ].  

When my change was undone, I posted the following on the reverter's talk page, and you'll also see his reply on my page, below my query.

Hi Suyogaerospace. You seem to have undone a change I made today to [[Mumbai]]. Maybe you were correct to do so. However, my change was just to add a sentence of 9 words, complete with a proper reference to a BBC News article from today. Do you not think it was a little harsh that the reason given for undoing my contribution was the 1-word 'vandelism'?  [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 09:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello! I have reverted your edits because its that policy, have you seen the HTML comments on mumbai page? It says that to do a change you should gain a census about it. Alreadly debate on % of people living in slums is going on (check talk page of mumbai) diffrent sources gives diffrent number of percentage. So its better to first agree on % and then add it on article. Secondly I request you to get involve in discussion on talk page. Please dont reignite this isssue ;) Dont consider my reverts as biting or harresment. Assume good faith (PS I just corrected a caption of an image and my edit was reverted just because I didnt put it on talk page then we had a huge debate and I was prove right ;))(Please reply on my talkpage)--[[User:Suyogaerospace|<big><FONT FACE="Old English Text MT" COLOR="#FF6600">Suyog</FONT></big>]][[User talk:Suyogaerospace|<big><sup><FONT FACE="Old English Text MT" COLOR="#FF6600">talk to me!</FONT></sup></big>]] 02:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC) 

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Hi again, Suyogaerospace.  May I make the following observations:  

1. It seems more helpful to have our comments on the same page, so I'll put my points here, and also put a small pointer on your talk page. 

2.	Yes, my contribution was with hindsight in error - a point I acknowledged in my query to you - because, as you correctly pointed out in your reply, there are rules on editing that article.  When I posted my change, I hadn't realised these rules were in place.  I hadn't appreciated that (a) it was an FA [Wikipedia Featured Article], nor that (b) there was much talk on its Discussion page.  I also hadn't spotted that the article already contained my 9 words (albeit some pages further down, under Demographics, section 9).  

3.	However, the reverter said only 'Vandelism' as the reason for reverting.  
If they had instead said 'Vandalism - please see Discussion page.', or a few words to that effect, then I could have understood.  After all, to most people, vandalism suggests something far worse.  
It may be deleting existing portions, defacing them, or adding content that is offensive, non-relevant, or unsupported by a proper reference to its source.  My contribution was none of these.  

4.	You rightly advise "Assume good faith.".  Surely one act of good faith would be to encourage a contributor, even if he is breaking rules.  Simply point out to them where the rules are, rather than dismisss as 'vandalism', with no help to them?  

5.	Wikipedia's own advice  - in [[Wikipedia:Simplified_ruleset]] - encourages contributors to: (1) Be bold! in updating pages. Go ahead, it's a wiki!  Encourage others, including those who disagree with you, likewise to Be bold!  (6) Particularly, don't revert good faith edits. Reverting is a little too powerful sometimes ...   If you really can't stand something, revert once, with an edit summary something like "(rv) I disagree strongly, I'll explain why in talk." and immediately take it to talk. 

6.	You mention an edit of yours being reverted and your being proved right.  How does this relate to my query?

7.	I suggest the following spellings:  vandalism, it's, Mumbai, consensus, different, don't, harassment. 
[[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 11:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

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Hi hmmm your point number 3 to 5 are almost same so I'll answer them together. 
*I agree I didn't mention why I reverted it because that time I was clicked save page button in place of show preview. So to make up for it I posted a huge message on your talk page
* My experience was just to tell you that not even establish and senior editors are spared ;) So you dont feel that Im biting you or harassing you
*Coming to spellings I type too fast and some times sequence of keys get up-down, And when you get use to IMs and Voice to text things your writing and typing habbits fall apart ;)
*I mostely prefer that other editors should reply on my talk page but still if you insist that you will reply on your talk page only then you can take help of [[Template:Talkback |Talkback template]]--[[User:Suyogaerospace|<big><FONT FACE="Old English Text MT" COLOR="#FF6600">Suyog</FONT></big>]][[User talk:Suyogaerospace|<big><sup><FONT FACE="Old English Text MT" COLOR="#FF6600">talk to me!</FONT></sup></big>]] 14:43, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Help Request ==

{{tnull|helpme}}
Please could you explain what (top) signifies, on a Page History page - I tried to find (top) in Help search, but no joy.  Thx.
:You probably mean on your [[Special:Contributions/Trafford09|contributions]] page. (Top) in that case means it's the last edit that was made to the page, the 'top' edit in the history. //[[User:Roux|<span style="color:#00009C;font-size:80%;">'''roux'''</span>]] [[User talk:Roux|<span style="border:1px solid #00009C;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;padding:0px 7px;font-size:30%;">&nbsp;</span>]] 18:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)</small>
:: Excellent - that makes sense of it all.  Many thanks.  [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 18:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

== Watchlist ==

{{tnull|helpme}}
Please could you advise me whether & how one can add http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/11.22.333.44 (as example) to one's watchlist?  Thanks.
:Unfortunately there is a software limitation that prevents things like contributions pages being added to watchlists. Basically, you cannot watchlist any page that is dynamically generated on each view (like contributions). //[[User:Roux|<span style="color:#465945;font-size:80%;">'''roux'''</span>]] [[User talk:Roux|<span style="border:1px solid #465945;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;padding:0px 7px;font-size:30%;">&nbsp;</span>]] 07:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)</small>
Thanks Roux.

== Spelling ==

Thanks ;) I purposely do grammatical errors to increase my edit counts while fixing them :D--[[User:Suyogaerospace|<big><FONT FACE="Old English Text MT" COLOR="#FF6600">Suyog</FONT></big>]][[User talk:Suyogaerospace|<big><sup><FONT FACE="Old English Text MT" COLOR="#FF6600">talk to me!</FONT></sup></big>]] 07:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

: Lol - I like that :)  [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 08:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

== Request for the name of a template ==

{{tn|helpme}}
Could somebody please tell me the name of one of the templates which appears when a logged-in editor writes a new article?
The template I'm referring to is the one which includes the text '''"When creating an article, provide references to reliable published sources. An article without references will likely be deleted quickly."'''. 
I've searched Help, and followed links to [[Template:Semi-protected]] et al, but cannot find the one I'm seeking.  
Thanks in advance.  [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 11:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:Did you mean, <nowiki>{{refimprove}}</nowiki>, which looks like this;

{{tn|refimprove}}
(remove the tn| to see the real template for refimprove)

--<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 11:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:: No, Chaz.  I meant the one with the text I showed above.  Maybe if you paste 
http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Hjhjhjh&action=edit&redlink=1 
into your browser, you'll see the exact page where it appears.  (But thanks anyway.)  [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 11:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:::OK, I'll take a look. There's so many tools out there.  To make it easier, you might like to go to your perferences, and, in gadgets, enable [[WP:FRIENDLY|FRIENDLY]]. That gives you buttons to very quickly tag articles with all kinds of things. --<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 11:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

*Aha, I think I've found what you mean! It's not a template, it's a function of the wiki software. If you go to an article that doesn't exist, for example [[jasdhfljhasdfk]], and click "create this article", a message automatically appears at the top. It says;

* Before creating an article, please read Wikipedia:Your first article, or search for an existing article to which you can redirect this title.
* To experiment, please use the sandbox.
* When creating an article, provide references to reliable published sources. An article without references will likely be deleted quickly.

(but with [[WP:LINK|WIKILINK]]s); if you need it, I might be able to get a copy of the actual source code?

--<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 11:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

OK, I'm going to close off this 'helpme' for now. If you do require further help, please either contact me via [[User talk:chzz|my talk page]], or put another helpme request on this page.

Thanks! --<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 12:14, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your time, Chzz.  [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 12:38, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

You're very welcome, any time

<small>psst - has anyone told you about the [[WP:TMM|missing manual]]? Ssh. It's a secret :-)</small>

--<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Talkback ==

[[User:GT5162|GT5162]] <sup>[[User_talk:GT5162|(我的对话页)]]</sup> 15:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

== Re. creating pages "template" ==

Hi,
Yes, I do remember;
Sorry I failed t o track it to that mediawiki page; we live and learn.
I've 'thrown my oar in' to the discussion.
Cheers, --<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 15:34, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
:P.S. I'll also ask some others to look in on it. --<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 15:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

{{tn|talkback|Chzz|Update & query re leaving messages}} --<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:52, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

== Live help ==

By the way, although it is noted in the helpme template, you may not be aware that the [http://toolserver.org/~bjelleklang/pjirc/ talk to us live] thing really works; there's several people, including myself, sitting there all the time, more than happy to help users with any Wikipedia questions. Pop in and say "hi" some time.--<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:55, 27 March 2009 (UTC) 
<br> 
:For anybody else reading this: well, the live help works extremely well - I'd recommend it. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 12:08, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

== You're Welcome ==

No problem.  You're welcome. [[User:Cool3|Cool3]] ([[User talk:Cool3|talk]]) 15:37, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

== Questions while I was away ==

Hi,

I noticed you asked a couple of things in help, when nobody was there.

1 can you tell if an editor's logged in? (Except by checking their recent edits)

:I don't think you can - unless you have another form of contact with them, such as MSN etc. Wikipedia is very 'anonymous. If they don't edit, they don't show up.

2 How do you tell an editor's rights?

:Go to Special, Log (where you normally see contributions, change the pull-down to "user rights log", leave the "user" box empty, and in the "Title" box, put "User:Chzz" (or whoever).

:Note - this confuses everyone; if you put a name in the "User", it shows you rights that that user has ''given''.

:Alternatively, Special, users - rights are shown in brackets after the name, if there are any.

:<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 15:36, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

== Talkback ==

{{tn|talkback|Rectilinium|West Point query}}
{{tn|tb|Chzz|IE says "Done, but with errors on page."}} <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 16:43, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

== Vandalism report ==

{{Tnull|helpme}}

Could somebody deal with [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Woodchipper&diff=prev&oldid=284621287 this user]?  I've got to go out!
*{{Done}} [[User:TenPoundHammer|<span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>]] and his otters • <sup>([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Many otters]] • [[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|One hammer]] • [[:User:TenPoundHammer/Country|HELP]])</sup> 17:51, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

== Removal of  category <nowiki>{{WPFISHING}}</nowiki> ==

{{cquote|1=
Hiya.  Just letting you know that after [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Retiarius&diff=prev&oldid=284569088 your edit] to the [[Talk:Retiarius]] Talk page, I've had to removed the Category <nowiki>{{WPFISHING}}</nowiki>, as it's inappropriate to the article.  If you meant to add a different Category, please redo your edit, selecting the appropriate category that you intended to add.  
|4= Cheers, [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09|talk]]) 
|5= 17:07, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
}}

:Why do you believe so? A [[Retiarius]] is a gladiator-style derived from fishermen, so would seem to be related to [[fishing]]. [[Special:Contributions/70.29.213.241|70.29.213.241]] ([[User talk:70.29.213.241|talk]]) 04:44, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

== Query re. edit summaries ==

Answered in [[User:Trafford09/Sandbox]], as requested <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 17:24, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

== [User's reply re TW] ==

*Thanks for the Twinkle tip.  I am aware of the pre-written vandalism warnings and do use them.  However, I do write my own informal messages to vandals, just to let them know they have been caught and record their mischief on their talk page. Thanks, and down with vandalism.[[User:Stepp-Wulf|Stepp-Wulf]] ([[User talk:Stepp-Wulf|talk]]) 02:32, 22 April 2009 (UTC).

== Trout ==

{| style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"
|rowspan="2" valign="top" | [[Image:Rainbow_trout.png|100px]]
|rowspan="2" |
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Wet Trout Award'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | I, ~~, have the honor of presenting you the  '''[[WP:TROUT|Wet Trout Award]]''' for For slapping yourself on the IRC earlier. <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 01:23, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
|}

I humbly accept.  [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 01:46, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

== Frusciante heroin addiction is unsourced? ==

That very same article says he was addicted to heroin. [[Special:Contributions/200.160.69.53|200.160.69.53]] ([[User talk:200.160.69.53|talk]]) 16:11, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

:   Hi IP200.  I looked at [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=John_Frusciante&diff=287375972&oldid=287373829 your contribution] to the [[John Frusciante]] Main Page article, and noticed you'd not included [[WP:reference | an in-line citation]], nor had you provided any [[WP:edit summary]].  I then examined [[Special:Contributions/200.160.69.53 | the other previous contributions from the IP address you used]], and looked at the prior warnings on your [[User talk:200.160.69.53|talk page]].  Hence my warning - but I admit I was unaware that your claim (whilst uncited) was in fact true.  Nonetheless, I presume that Frusciante is best known for his good guitar work, rather than his drug-addiction?  The article says "In 1998, he successfully completed drug rehabilitation"; doesn't the passing of 11 years since then earn him a break?  Also, you said yourself that the article already referred to his prior drug problem. I wonder whether there's much merit in the article referring to it twice.  Maybe the other contributions from your IP address weren't made by you?  Had you considered registering a user name instead of the IP?  Anyway, I hope to be praising your future Wikipedia contributions.  If I can be any help, please ask.  Regards, [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 16:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
:: He's not know for good guitar work but for playing guitar in Red Hot Chili Peppers and during that time he did a lot of heroin. [[Special:Contributions/200.160.69.53|200.160.69.53]] ([[User talk:200.160.69.53|talk]]) 23:44, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

:::{{fact}} - with bio's of living persons, we have to be particularly careful about the facts - especially if they are contentious - see [[WP:BLP]]. In this specific case, I can see your point - and agree that he's best known as a member of the Chilli's. Doing a rough calc though, from Google News, I get just over 1000 hits for "Frusciante guitar" ([http://news.google.co.uk/archivesearch?um=1&ned=uk&hl=en&q=Frusciante&cf=all here]) and only about 200 for "Frusciante heroin" ([http://news.google.co.uk/archivesearch?q=Frusciante+heroin&btnG=Search&um=1&ned=uk&hl=en here]). Not the most scientific of tests, but it's something. Therefore, in the interests of [[WP:BALANCE|balance]], I'd have to say that it's not appropriate to add that info. If you disagree, you should suggest your edit on the article discussion page, [[Talk:John Frusciante]].
:::Also, I'd just like to support what Trafford09 said - get yourself a Wikipedia account, for [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|all kinds of reasons]].
:::Cheers, <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 05:05, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

== [[User:Sunnytree]] ==

Yeah, that page should go, too.  I'll MfD it.  [[User:Who then was a gentleman?|Who then was a gentleman?]] ([[User talk:Who then was a gentleman?|talk]]) 00:25, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually I just put a db-ad on it.  [[User:Who then was a gentleman?|Who then was a gentleman?]] ([[User talk:Who then was a gentleman?|talk]]) 00:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Ta.  [[User:Who then was a gentleman?|Who then was a gentleman?]] ([[User talk:Who then was a gentleman?|talk]]) 00:35, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

== 205ywmpq ==

I thought it might be worth noting these links, while I had them open.

So - the SUL utility is [http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=205ywmpq here],

And the Japanese SPI investigation mentioning the user is [[ja:Wikipedia:進行中の荒らし行為/長期/かなべえコバトン|here]].

Cheers, <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 04:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

== ACCA ==

yes it is ACCA 

[[User:Nabil rais2008|Colossal]] ([[User talk:Nabil rais2008|talk]]) 15:51, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

== Removal of text on talk pages ==

Regarding [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dr._Blofeld&diff=prev&oldid=288720080 this edit] to [[User:Dr. Blofeld]]'s talk page, [[WP:BLANKING|he is permitted]] to remove comments from his own talk page as he sees fit, even though archiving is preferred, this is also true of warning templates as removing a warning template implies that you have read and understand it.  Also I hope you can appreciate [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dr._Blofeld&diff=next&oldid=288720261 the irony] in not signing your comment about signing comments. --[[User:Kelapstick|kelapstick]] ([[User talk:Kelapstick|talk]]) 18:35, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

:It's a fair cop - mea culpa.  Have apologised to the good Dr. & thanked Kelapstick.  We live and learn. :) [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 00:21, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== My Vaarky/Reference page ==

Thanks for checking about whether the appearance of the link for the page on users looking for help meant that I needed help. I'm actually just keeping a list of pages I would like to look at at some point to familiarize myself with what they're for. I wasn't trying to request help by it, but really appreciate your asking. I'll update the page to clarify so it doesn't confuse anyone else. -- [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 06:33, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Removed the category that caused it to index as though I needed help. Sorry for the false alarm. -- [[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] ([[User talk:Vaarky|talk]]) 07:00, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks - no problem. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 07:07, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== Guidelines for new articles ==

Apparently: <br>
"Before creating an article, please [[Wikipedia:Searching|search]] Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not ''already exist'' on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines to which all articles should adhere. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain [[Wikipedia:No original research|original research]], must be written from a [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view]], should [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|cite]] to [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] which [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verify]] their content and must not contain [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons|unsourced, negative content about living people]]. 

Articles must also demonstrate the [[Wikipedia:Notability|notability]] of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for [[Wikipedia:Notability (people)|people]], [[Wikipedia:Notability (music)|bands and musicians]], [[Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)|companies and organizations]] and [[Wikipedia:Notability (web)|web content]] and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest|conflict of interest guideline]] strongly recommends against ''you'' creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see [[Help:Starting a new page]]. You might also look at [[Wikipedia:Your first article]] and [[Wikipedia:How to write a great article]] for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the [[Wikipedia:Tutorial]] so that you know how to properly format the article before creation."
<br> [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 11:46, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== hi t9!!! ==

I got it!!!!
:so you did - well done.

test[[User:Srimukh|Srimukh]] ([[User talk:Srimukh|talk]]) 10:58, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Excellent :)  [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 11:00, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== talkback ==

{{tlx|tb|Chzz|Google hits}} <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 11:07, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

{{tb|Chzz|Static & dynamic IP addresses, et al.}} <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 07:46, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia talk:New contributors' help page]] ==

I saw what you were trying to do there, so I located the references and wrapped them in nowiki tags. That should prevent the error message from displaying at the bottom. Best, [[User:Tnxman307|<span style="color:darkorange;">TN</span>]][[User talk:Tnxman307|<b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b>]][[Special:Contributions/Tnxman307|<span style="color:red;">Man</span>]] 01:00, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for that, sir.  I guess my 2nd attempt - even tho' it works for now - would be scuppered if another user added further refs? 
:Anyway, nice trick of yours - I must remember it.  At least I can look here for the reminder.  Cheers, [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 01:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
::No problem, happy to help. If another user adds further refs, then we can just add nowiki tags again and drop them a note explaining what's going on. [[User:Tnxman307|<span style="color:darkorange;">TN</span>]][[User talk:Tnxman307|<b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b>]][[Special:Contributions/Tnxman307|<span style="color:red;">Man</span>]] 11:54, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

== Re: AIV ==

Hello - thanks for the message. You're doing fine! My meaning was that IP addresses - especially dynamic ones like that one - cannot be vandalism-only accounts. The next person who logs on from their living room may be completely different than this guy and we don't want them to feel unwelcome. Also, IPs are rarely blocked longer than 24 to 48 hours ''unless'' it's a static IP with a long history of abuse. This IPs three edits don't qualify. 

Lastly, be sure that any editor you're about to report to AIV a) has been given a final level 4 warning, and b) has made an abusive edit ''after'' that final warning. Many users are simply testing out the 'anyone can edit' thing; others will stop after the level 3 warning, as this particular editor did; and even more will stop after their final warning. We want to be preventing current abusive edits from a bad-faith user, not punishing for edits made several hours or days prior. The [[WP:VANDAL|vandalism]] and [[WP:BLOCK|blocking]] policies have more information. Keep up the good work! - [[User:KrakatoaKatie|<span style="color:navy;">'''Krakatoa'''</span>]][[User talk:KrakatoaKatie|<span style="color:maroon;">Katie</span>]] 02:26, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

== Replied ==

{{tlx|tb|chzz|Static & dynamic IP addresses, et al.}}

And...

<big><big><big>Please</big></big></big>

I've helped you a bit, yes?

I don't often - actually, this is 1st time ever - ask for favours in return;

Please, do *something* to improve [[William Windsor (goat)]]

I am asking everyone I know to contribute...even if just a little...to this interesting, quirky article.

Fix a typo; improve a ref; get some background info from the web; email the barracks and ask for a pic; ask others to contribute; say something on the talk page, or the DYK request or the peer review; ***anything*** :-)

Please help restore my faith in the wiki community; many hands make light work, etc.

<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 00:09, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

== [[Stan Bunn]] ==

Thanks for your comments and the other improvements you made on the article. As to the "in" part, it may be a US/British English thing, or maybe even a [[Pacific Northwest]] thing, or possibly the usage in this particular manner. Here we also usually use "in" as in your car example, but there 1985 will always be 1985. With this example the time frame will vary depending on the person at the beginning of the sentence, as in his senior year was 1963 to 1964, but my senior year was 1993 to 1994. Now, I don't know if that is the reason why here we more typically omit the "in" when discussing students and their class years, but my experience is that we do omit it. The other change I had reverted, just FYI, is a bit clunky with my wording, but the use of "third year" (or "first year") is the lingo for law school, but I had to make sure people understood it was also the final year. Thanks. [[User:Aboutmovies|Aboutmovies]] ([[User talk:Aboutmovies|talk]]) 07:13, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:Okey-dokey.  Thanks for your explanation.  All the best, [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 23:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

== AIV reports ==

Hi. If you warn someone could you not report them immediately afterwards since warnings could possibly deter them? (As in [[Special:Contributions/Norfrank123|this]] case, even though it was valid since it's a vandal-only account). -- [[User:Mentifisto|<span style="color:#800080; font-family:courier new;">Menti</span>]][[User talk:Mentifisto|<span style="color:#000000; font-family:courier new;">fisto</span>]] 22:57, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

: Understood - thx. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 23:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== IRC ==

Hey,

You might be interested in [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Are_outside_forums_appropriate_in_welcome_message.3F]].

<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 16:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
== Please walk me through uploading an image ==

Hi Trafford09, I'm glad you are a "mere mortal" that maybe can help me! I looked in Wikimedia Commons for a photo of this band but didn't see one, but I believe that this album cover can and should be allowed under "fair use" law, and also because this album is out of print (from 1986).
[[User:MTStern|MTStern]] ([[User talk:MTStern|talk]]) 13:47, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

== Uploading album cover image contd. ==

Trafford09, I want to continue this conversation with you, since you're already familiar with what i've explained so far.  It seems that the file was uploaded, but to where, I'm not sure. Perhaps, I just need to wait??  

About the "live chat", I did try that... but it seemed rather slow. Also, I didn't know if I should put your user name in on the first screen or mine.

Thank you very much for your continued assistance and patience. Below is the page I'm trying to add the image to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koinonia_(band)

[[User:MTStern|MTStern]] ([[User talk:MTStern|talk]]) 17:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

== Hi Trafford ==

Hi, I saw your message on Chzz's talk page to another user & was wondering whether you could have a look over this article I've been working on & see what you think-[[User:Dottydotdot/workpage/History of Dubai]].  The current article is at [[History of Dubai]].  Any comments on my talk page would be very much appreciated.  Thanks! [[User:Dottydotdot|Dottydotdot]] ([[User talk:Dottydotdot|talk]]) 01:25, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks, look forward to them.[[User:Dottydotdot|Dottydotdot]] ([[User talk:Dottydotdot|talk]]) 01:34, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::Thank you very much-do you think the lead section is OK? [[User:Dottydotdot|Dottydotdot]] ([[User talk:Dottydotdot|talk]]) 17:43, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::OK, thank you very much, appreciated. [[User:Dottydotdot|Dottydotdot]] ([[User talk:Dottydotdot|talk]]) 07:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
{| style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"
|rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Compass barnstar.png|80px]]
|rowspan="2" |
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Guidance Barnstar'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Thank you for your help Trafford. [[User:Dottydotdot|Dottydotdot]] ([[User talk:Dottydotdot|talk]]) 09:06, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
|}

:Wow - two barnstars in 24 hours - thank you for yours.  Hey, they're like buses, these!  (But more pleasurable!)

:Seriously though, I enjoy [[copy-editing]], so am happy to help again if you'd like on a future occasion.  Cheers, [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 09:58, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

== Barnstar ==

{| style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"
|rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:Barnstar-abc.png|100px]]
|rowspan="2" |
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Helping Hand  Barnstar'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For all your efforts to help new users; you thoroughly deserve one of these. Keep it up. <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 16:01, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
|}

[[image:face-blush.svg]] I've got a very long way to go, to get up to your level, but thanks for the thought & encouragement.  [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 16:28, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== [[Pauline Léon]] ==

I declined your speedy, added some references, and tidied it up a bit. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 11:06, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

:I've replied - with thanks - on Martin's talk page. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 11:46, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

== hello ==

[[User:Zabadac|Zabadac]] ([[User talk:Zabadac|talk]]) 15:31, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 
:Hi Zabadac, well done.

== thank you ==

Thank you for your help.

I found that there was no 'new section' for the user who sent me a message I want to reply too.

So, I was unable to reply, and challenge things.

Can users disable incoming messages? If so, how do I get a return to this perosn?

kindest regards, [[User:Zabadac|Zabadac]] ([[User talk:Zabadac|talk]]) 15:48, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

== answer to question ==

[[User:Zabadac|Zabadac]] ([[User talk:Zabadac|talk]]) 15:57, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Trafford.
There is now a 'new section' coming up on that users - Mr Ollie.

I'll send a note now.

Thanks for the tip on spaces.

== citation help ==

Thanks! For the speedy response to my distress call on how to cite a thesis. [[User:NHearn|NHearn]] ([[User talk:NHearn|talk]]) 18:26, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Sweeeeeeeeeet!!! That is wonderful! Have a great morning. I may come and pick your brain later. [[Special:Contributions/24.248.193.115|24.248.193.115]] ([[User talk:24.248.193.115|talk]]) 13:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

== predatory revisions ==

Trafford

After I was 'advsied' not to add an extrenal link, and it was removed, I checked the extrenal links on a number of entries.

Clearly, there were commercial, advertisng based links. So, I decided I would remove thos offending items.

The revisons I made have been 'reverted', with no reasonable explantion

I am concerned that this system is one rule for one person, and another rule for another person, and that my updates are being 'attacked'.

Either the extrenal oinks policy if followed by everyone, or not.

I would liek you to review the site entry for 'high end audio', specifically the external links, and reveiw the recent 'updates'.

If my suggested link does not follow guidelines, I fail to see how the ones that someone is trying to hang to can meet the guidelines too.

kindest regards

[[User:Zabadac|Zabadac]] ([[User talk:Zabadac|talk]]) 19:08, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

== inappropriate warning ==

Trafford

I got a threatening warning from User:Bgs022 about my edits.

I am unable to communicate with them, and see no reason why I should be threatened for doing something that is correct.

Is there an independent 'abuse' review system in place ?

kindest regards, [[User:Zabadac|Zabadac]] ([[User talk:Zabadac|talk]]) 19:19, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

== thanks for the feedback ==

I appreciate you taking the time for feedback. I've found a way to communicate back to the user who gave me a warning, asking for a review of his/her actions.

I seem to have hit on a nerve with someone, somewhere. Otherwise I wouldn't attract this attention.

My stance is that if you can have one or more links to single specialist commercial sites, including a major magazine or two, then you can have another one, as long as its relevant and useful resource. Clearly someone thought otherwise, and pointed to the guidelines as the authority for the removal of my edits (made in good faith). I am now at a loss to understand what constitutes a valid external link.

So, a detailed review of those guidelines told me that there were in fact a load of other links that supposedly broke the guidelines.
So, I cleaned up the entries.  

I will take this matter to dispute if I am attacked again without good  reason, and any valid edits that I make reverted.

My view is that there are conflicts of interest here, and I will test the impartially of these people. Seems a bit like 'big bother'.

Of course, someone can simply block my account. Who really cares - well, I do because this activity is not in the spirit, or guidelines, of Wikipedia. 

Thanks for the advice to tread carefully, but really, who should I be afraid of? This is either a fair process, or not.

It will be interesting to see. I wait for a response to my refuting the warning.

kindest regards

20:30, 1 June 2009 (UTC)  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Zabadac|Zabadac]] ([[User talk:Zabadac|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zabadac|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Goat Star ==

{| style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"
|rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[File:Goat Barnstar.png|100px]]
|rowspan="2" |
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em; text-align: center;" | '''The Goat Star'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray; text-align: center;" | For contributions to ''[[Goat|Caprinae]] [[Soldier|Solidarius]]'' <br/>
Lance Corporal [[William Windsor (goat)|William Windsor]] salutes you! <br/><br/>
<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
|}


The award is documented in [[User:Chzz/Recipients of the Goat Star]]. I am working to progress [[William Windsor (goat)|William Windsor]] to ''Good Article'' status, so please look in some time. Cheers! <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

== Test for Erelyes ==

Bananas are usually green or yellow or brown. However I could not find any references to verify this.  [[User:Erelyes|Erelyes]] ([[User talk:Erelyes|talk]]) 07:48, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Furthermore, oranges are orange.[[User:Erelyes|Erelyes]] ([[User talk:Erelyes|talk]]) 07:48, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

:Great.  Nice to chat on [[WP:IRC]] just now. So now you're now a fully-fledged poster to other editors' Talk pages!  I'll take another look at your article soon.  Cheers, [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 07:53, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

== Regarding Helpme ==

Ya sure! Thanks [[User:Kesangh|Kesangh]] ([[User talk:Kesangh|talk]]) 09:16, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
== Hey ==

Thanks for the help, I'll make the relevant changes. On a lighter note, what did you mean by ''It's really just a case of your being bold'', I am just doing my job. I am not familiar with this live talk feature. Is it really better than typing 'helpme' on the talkpage. Do people prefer to use the live talk feature than the' helpme' thing. Kindly tell me more about this. And how are only a few selected events are mentioned in ''On this day section'' out of all the entries, i don't see any difference in the syntax of these selected events in the edit section. Who selects the events which should be displayed on the Main page? By the way, i noticed that you copied some of the text from your own talkpage onto my talkpage :-) 

Thanks for your help. Well, i am familiar with the ''being bold'' thing. As it was already late, i wanted someone else to add the information on the Main page. If i had asked someone to help me with the procedure of editing the Main page then that would have taken still more time and eventually, it would have been too late. But that's okay, Shivaji's coronation was celebrated yesterday as per the Marathi calendar and today as per the Gregorian calendar. I have added the relevant information to the ''On this day...'' section, but my edits are not visible on the Main page. Going through the link you gave me, i understood about the criteria required for listing an event on the Main page, but who's going to really put the particular event(if it deserves so) on the Main page, the admins? How to get an admin to see if the event i am talking about could be included on the Main page? If possible, can you yourself add the relevant information on the Main page. I got to go. Kindly help. Thanks [[User:Kesangh|Kesangh]] ([[User talk:Kesangh|talk]]) 07:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Smile ==

<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">[[Image:Smiley.svg|left|62px]] 

'''Trafford09''', [[User:G.phanisrinivas|<span style="color:red;">Srini</span>]][[User talk:G.phanisrinivas|<span style="color:maroon;">vas G P</span>]][[Special:Contributions/G.phanisrinivas|hani]] has smiled at you! Smiles promote [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! [[User:G.phanisrinivas|<span style="color:red;">Srini</span>]][[User talk:G.phanisrinivas|<span style="color:maroon;">vas G P</span>]][[Special:Contributions/G.phanisrinivas|hani]] 11:41, 8 June 2009 (UTC) <br /> <small>''Smile at others by adding {{tls|Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.''</small>
</div><!-- Template:smile -->

== Thank you! ==

[[File:SpecialBarnstar.png|right|thumb|'''Special Barnstar!''']]
Thanks a ton for all the help plus the patience.

A special barnstar as it was my first article, so it deserved something more:)

And i'm sure that article's gonna be mighty happy... We really worked hard on linking it!

Cheers! [[User:AceFighter19|AceFighter19]] ([[User talk:AceFighter19|talk]]) 14:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

:Why, thank you, kind sir.  Nice to be appreciated. 

:BTW, when adding a new section onto somebody's talk page, please add it at the bottom of their page, rather than the top.  It's just a WP convention - see [[WP:Talk_page_guidelines#Layout]].  Plus, this happens automatically if you use the "New Section" or "+" tabs at the top. Thx. again, [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 15:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

::I'll definitely remember that, thank you. I assumed new messages on top, as to be seen first. N i may be quite younger than you, so "buddy" is fine. Thanks for all the help again... Cheers!  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:AceFighter19|AceFighter19]] ([[User talk:AceFighter19|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AceFighter19|contribs]]) 12:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== test1 ==

test2  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rakesh Kumar Goyal|Rakesh Kumar Goyal]] ([[User talk:Rakesh Kumar Goyal|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rakesh Kumar Goyal|contribs]]) 19:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Well done, Rakesh.  So, as per our chat on IRC, you are now a fully-fledged communicator via Talk pages.  Good start. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 22:51, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== A query ==

Why is starting a new page so hard to do?
:You'll soon get used to it! [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 19:51, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
== BQ ==

I think my grandson might have started me off on a page that he knew was touchy.  I will have a talk with him when he gets back.  He is a bit of a mischief maker sometimes. From the looks of it this BQ person that controls the page snaps at anyone that comes by.  I know someone that will be spending a little more time during his visit on his bicycle instead of this computer.  Looks like I have a long Summer ahead.  This started off fun, but I think I will avoid the controversy.  Thank you for your help. [[User:Grandma Dottie|Grandma Dottie]] ([[User talk:Grandma Dottie|talk]]) 11:54, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

:I have started a section at ANI about this user. It knows way too much for a new user. [[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]] 11:56, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:Grandma, contrary to appearances, no one controls or owns any wikipedia page.  The user in question has a long history of this type of behavior, so please don't let him turn you off from wikipedia. [[User:ThreeE|ThreeE]] ([[User talk:ThreeE|talk]]) 15:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
::[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&contribs=user&target=threeE User ThreeE], I'm puzzled why you left your above contribution in this section on my talk page. Did you intend to post it onto [[User_talk:Grandma_Dottie]]'s Talk page?  It would seem that your comment is intended for them, not for me.  [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 16:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Good point, I reposted on her talk page. [[User:ThreeE|ThreeE]] ([[User talk:ThreeE|talk]]) 16:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

== Can you take a look at my test site ==

How is it looking?

How do I put a picture in the little box on the right at the top?  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lepo21|Lepo21]] ([[User talk:Lepo21|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lepo21|contribs]]) 19:57, 11 June 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== "test message" ==

test message  [from [[User_Talk:Janc6]]]

(I've moved this down to the bottom of my talk page, to follow normal WP convention.) [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 17:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
== Let's hope so ==

The comment you left on my page: "Well, let's hope it's not a truly 'final' message. Thx for including the above, for those of us who weren't logging when he wrote it. Trafford09 (talk) 12:08, 17 June 2009 (UTC)" your welcome and I meant the last message he gave (of course besides cya), and thanks for checking the page out, and your welcome for me making the page!--[[User:Cubs197|Cubs197]] ([[User talk:Cubs197|talk]]) 16:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, also, could you refrain from posting your comments on the actual article and put them on the [[User talk:Cubs197/chzz left|talk page]]? Thanks!--[[User:Cubs197|Cubs197]] ([[User talk:Cubs197|talk]]) 18:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for the suggestion, I think I'll do that!--[[User:Cubs197|Cubs197]] ([[User talk:Cubs197|talk]]) 19:39, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

== Talkback ==

{{tl|talkback|Cubs197|chzz left}}
[[User:Cubs197|Cubs197]] ([[User talk:Cubs197|talk]]) 19:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

== G.phanisrinivas → Srinivas ==

Hello, Trafford09! This message is to notify that G.phanisrinivas is now known as Srinivas! --[[User:Srinivas|<span style="color:#141458;">Sri</span>]][[User talk:Srinivas|<span style="color:#2D2DC4;">niv</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Srinivas|<span style="color:#A0A0E9;">as</span>]] 09:23, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
== Thanks ==

{{tn|talkback|Trafford09}} Thank you. Ok I agree with your modifications. It's cool. I make it live now. Thank again. Cheers, [[User:MelindaMelinda|MelindaMelinda]]
<br>

Now adding date, so that this section will get archived. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 22:28, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

== Talkback ==

{{tl | talkback|Srinivas|Tick, but no TOC?}}
[[User:Srinivas|<span style="color:#141458;">Sri</span>]][[User talk:Srinivas|<span style="color:#2D2DC4;">niv</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Srinivas|<span style="color:#A0A0E9;">as</span>]] 02:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
== Talkback ==

{{tl|talkback|Srinivas|Tick, but no TOC?}}
[[User:Srinivas|<span style="color:#141458;">Sri</span>]][[User talk:Srinivas|<span style="color:#2D2DC4;">niv</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Srinivas|<span style="color:#A0A0E9;">as</span>]] 13:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

== Talkback ==

{{tl|talkback|Srinivas|Tick, but no TOC?}}
[[User:Srinivas|<span style="color:#141458;">Sri</span>]][[User talk:Srinivas|<span style="color:#2D2DC4;">niv</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Srinivas|<span style="color:#A0A0E9;">as</span>]] 13:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
== Talkback ==

{{tl|tb|G.phanisrinivas|ts=[[User:Srinivas|<span style="color:#141458;">Sri</span>]][[User talk:Srinivas|<span style="color:#2D2DC4;">niv</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Srinivas|<span style="color:#A0A0E9;">as</span>]] 03:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)}}

== chzz's back, or just a vist ==

Traffy, chzz is currently back on his channel, wikipedia-en-help, etc.

:Yes, I'm back - what about you; where have you been? I need your help in #wikipedia-spotlight - see [[WP:SPOT]] :-) <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 23:06, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

:: Hi again chzz. Nice to see you've come back. Hope you enjoyed your well-earned (and fairly brief if sudden) [[WP:wikibreak]].
:: As I said to you on IRC, as for myself, I took a break for a few weeks for Wimbledon [just watching  - on TV!], then hols. in wonderful [[Cornwall]].
:: Hesitated to get straight back into WP, because as you know it can become very time- & effort-consuming. 

Good news - thanks. I've chatted briefly on IRC.  Hope to be spending a bit more time back on WP soon, but will keep popping back to check for any updates, every so often.  Hope everybody's enjoying WP & keeping up their good work as ever. Cheers, [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 21:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
== Please check my page ==

I would like to push the John Costigan page I've done on my test section to LIVE status.

Please let me know what I need to do to accomplish this.  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lepo21|Lepo21]] ([[User talk:Lepo21|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lepo21|contribs]]) 15:34, 17 July 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Replied fully on user's talk page. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 12:59, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

== Haven't seen you. ==

Hey traffy, I haven't seen you around IRC much at all. Just checking in.--[[User:Cubs197|Cubs197]] ([[User talk:Cubs197|talk]]) 04:49, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
==  == Strange heading ==

Hello, {{BASEPAGENAME}}. There is a {{#switch:yes|yes=|no=further|}} response from me, below the message you left in the [[User talk:Jerzy#Strange heading|"Strange heading" section]] of my talk page.<span class="plainlinks" style="font-size: 100%; font-weight: normal;">--[[User:Jerzy|Jerzy]]•[[User talk:Jerzy|t]] 22:01, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

== Just a hi! ==

<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">[[Image:Smiley.svg|left|62px]] 

'''Trafford09''', [[User:srinivas|srinivas]] has smiled at you! Smiles promote [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! [[User:Srinivas|Srinivas]] ([[User talk:Srinivas|talk]]) 09:20, 25 August 2009 (UTC) <br /> <small>''Smile at others by adding {{tls|Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.''</small>
</div><!-- Template:smile -->
Hey! I haven't seen you for almost a month at {{irc|wikipedia-en-help}}. Are you busy right now? Just left this message to inquire that. Thank you, --[[User:Srinivas|Srinivas]] ([[User talk:Srinivas|talk]]) 09:20, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
== [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Commis waiter]] ==

[[Image:Ambox warning_pn.svg|48px|left]] A tag has been placed on [[:Commis waiter]] requesting that it be [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|speedily deleted]] from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article consists of a dictionary definition or other article that has been [[m:Help:Transwiki|transwikied]] to another project and the author information recorded. 

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding <code>{{tl|hangon}}</code> to '''the top of [[:Commis waiter|the page that has been nominated for deletion]]''' (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on '''[[Talk:Commis waiter|the talk page]]''' explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for ''speedy'' deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact [[:Category:Wikipedia administrators who will provide copies of deleted articles|one of these admins]] to request that they  [[Wikipedia:Userfication#Userfication_of_deleted_content|userfy]] the page or have a copy emailed to you. <!-- Template:Db-transwiki-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> <strong>[[User:RayAYang|<span style="font-family:Script MT Bold;color:DarkRed">Ray</span>]]</strong>[[User_talk:RayAYang|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span></sup>]] 21:42, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

== Sicilian Vespers Discussion page ==

Traf: If you get a chance to look at the Sicilian Vespers talk page, please reply to my comments to rewright and rearrange the article. I really want to include the five points I numbered as it is crutial to understanding why the vespers were a world changing event, not merely a local revolt on the island. In fact, even the very first paragraph is chronologically incorrect according to Runciman and other sources. It does not mention Tancred in the Norman line of sucession after Fredrick II, and then Manfred's fight for the crown. Charles negotiated for the purchase of the crown with Pope Urban for, inter alia, and annual tribute of 10,000 ounces of gold. But Urban died before the deal was written and Charles re-negotiated the deal with Pope Clement, and because Manfred was now hard pressing Rome and other northern Italian Geulf cities, the price was reduced to 8,000 ounces of gold.[[User:Siciliano99|Siciliano99]] ([[User talk:Siciliano99|talk]]) 07:42, 15 September 2009 (UTC)Siciliano99
:Will have a quick look, though I'm no historian & only visited Sicily once (liked it apart from mosquitoes). [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 07:45, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
== [[WP:Wikibreak]] ==

Are you here still?[[User:Janc6|Janc6]] ([[User talk:Janc6|talk]])  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 21:22, 30 October 2009 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Well - er - yes, but seemingly just sporadically nowadays.  But thanks for asking.  I tend to log on lately only if I see something that 'needs' changing.  Hope you and all others are fine - sorry I'm not around to help much lately.  I hope IRC is still going strong. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 15:33, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

== William needs you ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray; text-align: center;" | I am trying to bring the article [[William Windsor (goat)]] up to [[WP:GA|good article]] status; as you previously helped, I wondered if you might have time to look at it again, and perhaps help improve it. All contributions welcome. Thank you for your time. <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 15:29, 1 April 2010 (UTC)<br/>
(No, this is not an April Fool thing)
|}<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:ChzzBot|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;ChzzBot&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:ChzzBot|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 17:07, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
== Quotes and Punc ==

See [[WP:MOSQUOTE]], "Preserve the original text, spelling, and punctuation."  The only exception are around spacing and types of dashes.  [[User:David Underdown|David Underdown]] ([[User talk:David Underdown|talk]]) 08:32, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

== Edit Summaries ==

I am not obligated to supply edit summaries.[[Special:Contributions/174.3.123.220|174.3.123.220]] ([[User talk:174.3.123.220|talk]]) 11:14, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:Hi. Thanks for talking about the issue.  Have you read [[Edit_summary#Always_provide_an_edit_summary]]? [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 11:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
== [[Special:Contributions/174.3.123.220|User:174.3.123.220]] ==

I see you're bumping up against the same non-responsive wall that I have several times in the past.  There is evidently a good bit of history behind that particular user, with a good compendium of sources here:  [[User_talk:AnmaFinotera/Archive_11#User:174.3.123.220]].  Actually I *have* managed to generate a few responses from him, but they were uniformly argumentative and did about as much to advance the discussion as silence - see my Talk page for a few examples of that.  Good luck, and if there's any place you'd like me to weigh in, let me know.  [[User:JohnInDC|JohnInDC]] ([[User talk:JohnInDC|talk]]) 11:13, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks very much, as I said, John, for the info..  [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 06:24, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

::He was quiet because he'd changed IPs.  Here's a [[User_talk:JohnInDC#Thought_you.27d_like_to_know...|link]] to my Talk page that will point you in the right direction.  [[User:JohnInDC|JohnInDC]] ([[User talk:JohnInDC|talk]]) 13:21, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

== Welcome back?! ==

{{utlp|user:chzz/tb|Long time no tea.}} <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:25, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

:P.S. Re. "How is Wikipedia considered, externally?" - two interesting ones for you;

*Re. Spam - http://rushprnews.com/2010/03/31/pr-consultants-should-think-twice-before-using-wikipedia-to-promote-clients

*Re. BLPs - http://onwikipedia.blogspot.com/2010/03/dr-handel-or-how-i-learned-to-stop.html (which lead to some changes)

:<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:29, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

:: {{done}} [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 12:09, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks, Chzz (as ever). Will follow the above. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 13:35, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

::Yw; the 2nd is a bit long, but worth reading, when you have some time and a nice cup of tea. It lead to masses of on-wiki DRAMA and all sorts. Partly, [[WP:BLPPROD]]. Anyway - [http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=wikipedia-en-help pop in matey!] - nobody else seems to know about 'soccer' (eek) <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:38, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

:Sure. Seeya on irc ere long. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 13:49, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Answered, [[User talk:chzz#Qry]] <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 20:10, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

:I see you're online; pop in to IRC if you have a sec? Cheers, <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:58, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

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== Jill Tarter ==

Hello Trafford09

Thanks for the info.

Im aware that Jill has her own page but i look up to her in her field. Thats why my user page has that.

Thank You[[User:Jonstewartwiki|Jonstewartwiki]] ([[User talk:Jonstewartwiki|talk]]) 19:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

:Hi Jon. That's fine, then - just wanted to make sure you knew she had a page. Glad you knew, and thanks for your reply.
:Have fun editing, & if I can ever be of any assistance, please do drop me a line. Regards, [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 21:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
== My test section ==

test: [[go (game)]]. 

About time I gave this a date, so it gets archived! [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 14:37, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

== AFC ==

[[WP:AFC]] needs help.

We are moving 70-odd articles that were tagged as {{tn|move draft}} into the AFC process, and we need help to process them.

If you are not familiar with how to review AFCs, please join #wikipedia-en-afc and get help there from experienced AFCers. Please do help; even if you just review one or two - try to fix; make live, or say why not, etc etc.

Greatly appreciated.<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkUser:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

:Well, thanks for the invitation, but I don't think I'll have much time to devote to the AFC area - sorry.
:I find I need to limit my time to my Watchlist, and doing c-e on any page I read.
:That and welcoming new users / chastising miscreants seems to take up my time.
:Actually, if I had more time, I'd work on an article of my own - but haven't got to that stage yet.
:Can't match your phenomenal work-rate, I'm afraid, but hats off to you for your labour of love. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 14:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

::Oh, no trouble at all, my friend - just worth an ask; as you know, from time-to-time, I help with certain issues, and occasionally ask for help. If you do have 10 mins to do one AFC, that'd be lovely; if you don't, not a problem.

::I know just what you mean, because I myself am often swamped; I have an enormous to-do list, and indeed many articles that I've been wanting to create for simply ages.

::Re. welcoming new users - I might just be able to help you speed that up a little bit; have a stare at [[user:chzz/logw]] - I can produce an updated list like that any time, which *only* shows users with contribs - hence w/ popups it's pretty quick to look at their contribs, and to right-click to use my 'welcome' or to welcome them AND tell them about refs; of course, that is just ''my'' way of doing it - but could be adapted, whatever. I find it makes the 'welcoming' a little easier to do. Although, I don't have the chance to do it myself as often as I would like.

::Please do pop in and chat, whenever; these American chaps don't understand football, and I could always do with someone to yell at about Japanese forwards, sympathise over blind refs who eat all pies,  and suchlike. Only a few days to go now, hurrah! <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:57, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

:::P.S. I did just update that listing, with some current data - so if you do want to play with it and welcome some of them, go for it. Mata ne.<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 15:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

:Yes - 11 June to 11 July - can't wait. Like to think we may win our group (sorry to our friends across the pond - maybe they can take second place?).
:Wouldn't relish playing Brazil or Spain.

:[[LUHG]] - let's keep the green & gold flags flying.

:Oh - forgot to say ta for the tea you poured me. Ta.

:Will check /logw.  I know I used your technique in the past, but it's so easy using TW, with bespoke welcomes for all sorts of suspected animals: IP, good, bad, anti-vandal, etc. etc..
:Now, here's one for you (with your skills!). How's about adding in an IRC welcome skeleton into TW's repertoire?
:If you do that - if only for me - I'd be an avid IRC-inviter.

:Will visit IRC ere long (& ask you re smoking!).

:Re welcoming - you do well to delegate that - your skills are best used elsewhere for bigger stuff.
:ttfn Matta ne [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 15:16, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

::Ta for fixtures. I'll prob be twitfeeding the cup news in my IRC, and possibly live commentary during games

::Re. Twinkle - sure, could do; how about a modified version of my welcome [[user:chzz/w]]?

::For 'just you' - ask {{user|Tim Song}} - he knows how to add bespoke setting bits to Twinkle, as they have done so for me - I log all my PROD and CSD to [[user:Chzz/PRODlog]] and [[User:Chzz/CSDlog]] - using a modification Tim wrote, [[User:Tim Song/afchelper4.js]] - the only complication being, you have to then install Twinkle the 'long way', in your monobook, rather than gadget. (Erm, unless you are using Vector...in which case, seek phych help, it's awful).

::For anyone - put in a request with the Twinkle maintainers.

::Anyway - I'm off to fight t3h evil ones, so Sarabaja :) <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 15:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

:Gambatte. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 15:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

::Gambaru yo. Benitez just quit; lawks. (/me can't help thinking that IRC is better for this :p) <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 16:10, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

:::Gah; now ''there'' is an article that needs fixing; [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Rafael_Ben%C3%ADtez&diff=prev&oldid=365858012] [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Rafael_Ben%C3%ADtez&diff=prev&oldid=365858909] etc.<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 16:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

== Community ban discussion for User:100110100 ==

This is an FYI to let you know that the discussion has been moved.  WP:AN is the more appropriate location for ban discussions, so the discussion can now be found [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Disruptive template replacements|here]]. - [[User:TexasAndroid|TexasAndroid]] ([[User talk:TexasAndroid|talk]]) 13:56, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
== Collapsing ==

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Being as you are having so much fun, I thought you might like to know about the 'collapse' option;
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<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 11:35, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
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: Thanks - will incorporate that, too. Tables aren't too bad, then! [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 11:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

::Mmm. I use the 'collapse' for my 'notes' at top of my user talk page, which I find particularly useful; I also have a little extra button at top (next to logout/clock) to let me swiftly edit [[user:chzz/note]] - that is, the page transcluded in the collapsed box at top of my user page. That is quite easy to do too; I don't want to confuse, but, it's actually much easier than in sounds. Just a few lines in my monobook.js;

<pre>
Chzznote = {
	ChzznoteGet: function() {
		Chzznote.ChzzNode = addPortletLink( 'p-personal', "http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:Chzz/note&action=edit", 'Note', 'Note', 'Make a note', '' );
		Chzznote.ChzzNode.style.fontSize = 'normal';
	},
}
 
addOnloadHook( function() {
		Chzznote.ChzznoteGet();

	}
);
</pre>

::Of course, you'd change the URL to point to your own page. Nifty stuff. (Assuming you are using monobook; I've ni if it works same in Vector).

::Also: If you feel like it, it would be ace to actually document some of this stuff; maybe the reply I wrote to you earlier on my talk, plus bits of this stuff, but a bit clearer, should go into [[user:chzz/help]]? Do you think? (And of course feel free to boldly just do it, if you like; I often find the best way to really learn something is to try explaining it to others!) <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 11:47, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

:Point taken - I do intend to document some of this very useful advice, into [[user:chzz/help]].
:I'm starting by familiarising myself with your Help subpages, so that I end up putting things in the right place.
:If I find anything, along the way, that I feel I can further improve, I'll be bold.
:I expect you have your subpages on your watchlist, so you'll spot any changes by me or others.
: Thanks again, [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 10:26, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

::That'd be great, if you could do that. I do watchlist my own pages, but I'm lax at checking them - too many other things to do. But please do boldly help make them better.

::The answers I gave, now in [[User talk:Chzz/Archive 23#Questions]], might well be useful to others - feel free to make a page about it, and if you think it's best under my help folder, go for it - and perhaps the stuff from above too. In fact, there's probably tons of things in my talk page archives that ought to be in some kind of 'help' heirarchy; if you fancy working on that, it'd be very worthwhile - I honstly would/will do it myself, one day...but as usual - well, I'm working on reforming [[WP:FEED]] and [[WP:AFC]], the help channel, writing a new stalk bot, working on strategy re. RfA, and a zillion other things - which is also why I posted the request below; I do as much as I can, but can't do everything, so I hope you won't mind my occasionally passing things like that over. Also, I love [[WP:TPS]]'ers :-)

Best, <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 18:38, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

== AllisonShapira ==

Hi there, my friend.

{{User|AllisonShapira}}, fairly new to Wikipedia, created [[Energy Policy of the Obama Administration]] and asked for [[WP:FEED|feedback]] - they received a little help, but, I wondered if you might have the time to help guide them a little further?

Please see [[User talk:AllisonShapira#Energy Policy of the Obama Administration]]. Many thanks in anticipation.<small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 18:32, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

== Vert align ==

{{utlp|user:chzz/tb|Vertical_alignment}} <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 00:56, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Still about? ==

'coz Aleenf1 is asking after you, so if you are, pop in again.<small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 12:40, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

:And online again, actually, now.

:So - England kick off at 1930 against the USA. No doubt Yanks will turn up at 1941 and claim a victory. :p <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 15:17, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Ho-ho - like that.  Didn't like the goal we gifted them, quite so much! Ah well, a draw v USA's not too bad a result. 
So, next Fri. <s>3pm</s> '''7:30 pm''' UK time - fingers crossed. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 22:51, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
:You know where I will be.

<code>[03:25] * ChanServ changes topic to '"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that" - [[Bill Shankly]] on [[The Beautiful Game]]'</code>

<small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 02:30, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Good title for topic.  Must point out my earlier mistake re Friday's match - of course it's at '''7:30 pm''' UK time.
Now off to look up what <nowiki> <code> </nowiki> does. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 07:42, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Ah, I've found out loads about the meetups. Thanks :) [[User:Chevymontecarlo|<span style="color:#0000FF">Chevy</span>]][[User talk:Chevymontecarlo|<span style="color:#FF0000">monte</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Chevymontecarlo|<span style="color:#008080">carlo</span>]] 18:24, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
:        Great. Enjoy. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 18:26, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

::Just stopping by to say thanks [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:Flyer22&diff=367164204&oldid=364722732 for this.] [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 19:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::: You're welcome - I'd just learnt how to do Tables, so I was 'bold' & took the opportunity to practice. Glad you didn't mind my interfering. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 22:01, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

== [[Go (game)]] ==

{{User:Scepia/Go}}
{{clear}}

I didn't throw you off with anything I said, did I? I hope you don't feel I have disrespected the game in any way. I can see how it may be difficult to understand how I can be a 2-dan without being in any Go association, but it is not something I just guessed. It is the rank most experienced players have assigned to me. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 03:53, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

: Lol - no, not thrown off, & no disrespect felt at all. Just full of admiration [ok - if I'm honest - absolute envy :) ] for you, that you reached such a high level in Go, without the help & support of a Go association. I also wonder how much better still you'd have become, were you in one. Moreover, I know that the [[British Go Association|BGA]] - and therefore I'm sure the [[American Go Association|AGA]] - would be so delighted to welcome a new [[Dan (rank)|2-dan]] to their midst - esp. a female one - the game needs more women players IMHO - to keep us men in our place. I love the cut+thrust & camaraderie of going to many live Go tournaments across Europe & occasionally East Asia. Is there a go club (http://www.usgo.org/cgi-bin/chapters.cgi) near you? 

: Do you ever play on-line games, on [[KGS Go Server]] or [http://www.online-go.com/ OGS] or similar? [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 08:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, thank goodness (LOL). And no need to envy me. You are at a pretty good level yourself, better than my siblings have managed to get to (that's for sure; except for my 13-year-old sister who now loves the game through ''[[Hikaru no Go]]'', they aren't really interested in Go). And, yes, I used to play online (mainly through GS Go Server), which is why I asked you. It was one of the main ways I could play with people of different walks of life. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 09:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

: Thanks it's taken me many, many years to reach [[Go_ranks_and_ratings#Kyu_and_Dan_ranks|5-kyu]] level. I got stuck at 13-kyu, then 7-kyu, & am now just plain erratic! When you mentioned "GS Go Server", did you mean KGS? [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 09:29, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
::LOL, being erratic is understandable with this game. And, yes, I meant KGS. Typo. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 11:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC) 
== Userboxes ==

''Different Go thread.'' Thanks for info on my talk page. I don't do userboxes and I do play go. -- [[User:SGBailey|SGBailey]] ([[User talk:SGBailey|talk]]) 11:47, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:You're welcome. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 12:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
== User talk:173.168.177.217 ==

Do you really wish to talk to me, or is this just an automated message? Although I keep the same IP address for a long time, I have no control over it. Sometimes, my IP address changes. And I obviously do not take credit for messages made from my IP by other people. We can talk. As long as it is not an automated reply. [[Special:Contributions/173.168.177.217|173.168.177.217]] ([[User talk:173.168.177.217|talk]]) 00:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

: {{spaces|9}} {{User5|173.168.177.217}}
: Hi there '173.168.177.217'. Glad to talk. The welcome msg. & the last section added to [[User talk:173.168.177.217|your talk page]] a few hours ago were from me, and I'm not a robot! (Please see [[User:Trafford09|my User page]], to see proof that I'm not). Just wanted to point out to you that most of us editors start off by using an [[IP address]], but then after a while we switch to using a [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&type=signup registered account]. There are [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|so many advantages]], compared with an anonymous IP a/c. I can understand and sympathise with you, if you're using a shared IP address - you will receive polite but constructive warnings for anything untoward done by every other user of that IP address. But if you register an a/c (like mine - "[[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]]" - then you'll receive only any talk intended for you personally.

: But anyway, welcome to Wikipedia - although it looks as though you've been around long enough to have picked up some useful tips on using WP.

: If I can ever be any help - say you have any question on WP or how best to use it - please don't hesitate to ask me here, and you'll get a swift response.

: One more thing - looks like we share an interest in the great Joe [[Bonamassa]] (''Sloe Gin'''s my favourite).

: Hope you continue to enjoy Wikipedia! Best regards, [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 08:50, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Alan Riley]] ==

[[Image:Ambox warning_pn.svg|48px|left]] A tag has been placed on [[:Alan Riley]], requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under [[WP:CSD#G11|section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion]], because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read [[Wikipedia:Spam|the guidelines on spam]] as well as [[Wikipedia:FAQ/Business]] for more information. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the [[Wikipedia:Article wizard2.0|Article Wizard]]. 

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding <code>{{tl|hangon}}</code> to '''the top of [[:Alan Riley|the page that has been nominated for deletion]]''' (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on '''[[Talk:Alan Riley|the talk page]]''' explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for ''speedy'' deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact [[:Category:Wikipedia administrators who will provide copies of deleted articles|one of these admins]] to request that they  [[Wikipedia:Userfication#Userfication_of_deleted_content|userfy]] the page or have a copy emailed to you. <!-- Template:Db-spam-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> [[User:Codf1977|Codf1977]] ([[User talk:Codf1977|talk]]) 15:14, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

: Hmm - I've no [[wp:COI]] with the person (nor any associated body) to whom the article relates. Never corresponded with him nor spoken to him. However, I feel he is notable, & will seek to persuade other editors of this, on the article's [[Talk:Alan Riley|the talk page]]. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]])

== [[Alan Riley]] ==

Would you be happy for me to move the article to a user page of yours (for example [[User:Trafford09/Alan Riley]] - that way you could work on it before moving it back ? [[User:Codf1977|Codf1977]] ([[User talk:Codf1977|talk]]) 15:53, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

: Thanks Codf, that would be great. I'm very new to article creation etc., & I have no [[wp:COI]] in the person - just think he's notable. If you move it for me, I guess then I could try to de-advert it, & get more [[wp:RS]]. I_do_ wish I'd used my sandbox in the first place! At a wild guess, do you suspect it may pass muster after I've worked on it & 'resubmit' it? I'd be very grateful for any tips you could send my way (& of course, if you can de-advert it, that would also be much appreciated). 
: Regards, [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 16:04, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

I have moved it for you to [[User:Trafford09/Alan Riley]] - let me know if you need any help moving it back when you have worked on it. [[User:Codf1977|Codf1977]] ([[User talk:Codf1977|talk]]) 16:13, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
: Thanks very much. Yes, if it's ok with you, I'll consult you after my further edits & [[wp:RS]], before trying to reinstate it. 
: A bit of collaboration never did any harm! Feel free to de-advert it too, should you have time & inclination. Ta, [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 16:17, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

::Always best to work in user-space if you aren't really sure, Trafford. You could also use [[WP:AFC]] to get it re-checked, and get feedback. Cheers, <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 16:36, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes Chzz, I came to realise that, whilst in the middle of my initial edits. Guess I should have stopped then, & transferred it to my space. Big lesson learnt. [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 16:41, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:External links|External links]] section of [[ResPublica]] ==

Please have a read of the following pages :

* [[Wikipedia:External links]]
and
* [[Wikipedia:MOS#External_links]]

Just because a paper, blog or news site mentions [[ResPublica]], it does not mean that it should go into the [[Wikipedia:External links|External links]] section of the article, if you wish to have them listed to demonstrate the notability then add them to the Talk page. [[User:Codf1977|Codf1977]] ([[User talk:Codf1977|talk]]) 12:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
== [[Curvilinear Disparity]] ==

Thanks for your feedback and offer to help with the curvilinear disparity article. As it is a relatively specialised topic, it has been tricky to find suitable articles to link from so your help in this regard would be greatly appreciated. 
I think the Tea Party movement in the US is a good contemporary example of curvilinear disparity. Some candidates (such as Rand Paul) who were not favoured by the Republican Party, have been selected in primaries nevertheless, largely as a result of tea party activists. This might be good additional example to make the article more relevant to an American audience. Thanks again. [[User:Eoinjones|Eoinjones]] ([[User talk:Eoinjones|talk]]) 12:11, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
: Just to let you know I have now added the Tea Party example to the article. If you get a chance to glance at it some time I would appreciate your feedback. Good luck against Slovenia in the final group game. My nation is unfortunately unrepresented due to a handball by Thierry Henry ;) [[User:Eoinjones|Eoinjones]] ([[User talk:Eoinjones|talk]]) 20:16, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion|Articles for deletion]] nomination of [[:ResPublica]] ==

<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|42px]]</div>I have nominated [[ResPublica]], an article that you created, for [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deletion]]. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ResPublica]]. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.{{-}}Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. <!-- Template:AFDWarning --> [[User:Codf1977|Codf1977]] ([[User talk:Codf1977|talk]]) 13:10, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== PIA ==

Its not about which article is popular its about listing it in alphabetical order.[[Special:Contributions/119.155.43.30|119.155.43.30]] ([[User talk:119.155.43.30|talk]]) 10:41, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

: Hiya. Thanks for starting discussion about this. As the discussion affects any reader of the PIA page, I've copied your comment to the [[PIA]] article's [[Talk:PIA]] page, and I'll reply to you there shortly, so that other editors can also participate in the discussion. 
: Thanks & regards, --[[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 12:23, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
== Archives ==

I'm pretty sure you already know by now, but...I move things to my archives quite quick. So if you didn't catch my reply, it's in [[User_talk:Chzz/Archive_23#ResPublica]]. I hope you don't think I'm dismissing things if I move them, it's just that my talk page gets so busy...but I am always v happy to answer things. Just...if the reply disappears, you know where it will be - just search my archive on your name. Looking forward to the big game later! Cheers, <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 05:03, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

: Ah - your suspicion was correct - I hadn't spotted your latest reply there. Have now read it. So, always use <nowiki>{{citation}}</nowiki>, check their 'press+media' for RS, read [[wp:NONFREE]] & see /yourboilerplate. Gotcha. (T-7hrs!) Arigatou. --[[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 09:38, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

: BTW, your archive has 2 tb templates in big blue - would you have seen them?
: Also, ur Talk page refers to [[User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#AFC.2C_Archive.2C_and_re._new_users_making_articles]], which may not be the link now most applicable? --[[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 09:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

: Hmm - wouldn't your Pirates graph be better on the right, so the Contents is as usu. on the left?
: But it fills in white space - guess that's good.
: Also, pray tell, give me a clue re the Pirates' significance. --[[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 10:01, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

: What does Ref. Chzz/1159711711597103101 mean? --[[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09#top|talk]]) 10:08, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

:*Re. 'talkback' in archive - yes, I often put them direct in there. There's more than 2, actually. The trouble with 'tlp' or whatever is, you then use the link to the section, if there's one specified. [[:template:Sofixit|''Someone'']] should improve the template, I imagine, to have some 'done' parameter or something. But yes - I have indeed seen them. Usually, when I archive them, I add a note to say what happened - in that case though, I was a bit lax.

:*For Esuzu, see [[User_talk:Esuzu#Re._your_message]] - I think that one has been sorted out. I added a note in the archive.

:*{{user|Jeff G. }} I dealt with on their talk; same with {{user|TeleComNasSprVen}}

:*For the UAA one on my talk, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Usernames_for_administrator_attention&oldid=369762031  UAA end of here]. Hard to keep up with UAA archival, but I have followed up - [[User_talk:Beeblebrox#UAA|1]] [[User talk:Daniel Case#UAA|2]]

:So - I think you can ''mostly'' assume if something is on my talk or archive that I've seen it. Thanks for asking about those though - I ''try'' to remember to check things, but I do really appreciate when people like yourself, and other [[WP:TPS|TPS]], look in to things / check on them / respond. All help is greatly appreciated.

:Re. Mr. Wales - sadly, the same cannot be said for his talk page. So re. your comment about that link...yes, it was archived, with no response or comment. Great pity. Link now [[User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 60#AFC, Archive, and re. new users making articles]]. It's disappointing that I've now posted that in two places - AFC talk and Mr. Wales page (which followed my talking to him about new users, and the difficulties they face). I will definitely follow up on that - not quite sure how or where, yet. The system really does need considerable improvement.

:Re. pirates / header - if you can improve it, go ahead. [[User:Chzz/talkheader3]] is the first bit. If you can shuffle the pirate graph though, please do. The reference to the ratio of pirates/global warming is a [[Flying Spaghetti Monster]] thing, and should be of great concern to us all. Remember to show your support on [[International Talk Like a Pirate Day|Sept. 19th]]. I do like to sneak in FSM refs sometimes - see [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Theleftorium_2&diff=369543206&oldid=369534657 here].

:Re. Ref. Chzz/1159711711597103101 - mostly, it is a 'unique string' which makes it easier for me when asking OTRS people to locate emails that use my own boilerplate, by searching for it. Hmm, how are your cryptography skillz? Are you familiar with [[ASCII code]] ? Have a think, before using the hints...<small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 20:27, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
{{collapse top|Hint 1 - spoiler}}
Try holding down the 'ALT' key, and whilst holding it, press '1', then '1', then '5' on the numeric keypad, then release ALT.
{{collapse bottom}}
{{collapse top|Hint 2 - spoiler}}
"115" is the decimal representation of the ASCII code for "s". "97" is "a". "117" is "u". etc.
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