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== Adminship ==

Since it's been two months since I last asked, may I please nominate you for adminship? I think you've improved since the last time I asked. Some key points that are considered in RFAs that would certainly apply to you:
*22 DYKs
*17 GAs
*2 GTs
*Good anti-vandal work
*!voting in RFAs
*Participation in WikiProjects, especially WikiProject Ships
Considering these points, what do you now think? ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉ message]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|changes]]) 01:06, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:NSD, I think White Shadows has potential to be a good candidate - it might be a little too soon. WS, you know of course that I don't mean to be patronizing or anything, but you are still sorting out the maturity issues and those require a few months before they get fixed. If you disagree, just shoot me an email and we can talk about it. :) Best! '''[[User:Ceranthor|<span style="color:#2F4F4F; font-family:Optima;">ceran</span>]]'''[[User_talk:Ceranthor|<span style="color:#2F4F4F; font-family:Optima;">''thor''</span>]] 01:09, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:::{{ec}}Uhhh... Perhaps a second opinion may help. Afterall, there are several people who will oppose based off of my age alone. I do feel that I have improved though in terms of policy, and content creation.....--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:11, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::::You could pwn SGF if he comes back. Anyway, age has been removed from [[WP:GRFA]], in case you wanted to know. ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉ message]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|changes]]) 01:15, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Though it has not been removed from people's own personal standards and thoughts NSD.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:16, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Your decision is your own; if you want to go for it, try the experience. '''[[User:Ceranthor|<span style="color:#2F4F4F; font-family:Optima;">ceran</span>]]'''[[User_talk:Ceranthor|<span style="color:#2F4F4F; font-family:Optima;">''thor''</span>]] 01:23, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::I know that it's my own desision but past incidents like my block in February could kill any RFA of mine. However, nothing ventured nothing gained. I just wanted another opinion. Not that I'm being indisisive. I'd just like to know where others stand on this situation.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:44, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
{{outdent}}
I guess we should wait, then. ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉ message]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|changes]]) 01:47, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe your right. but it could go either way based off of how people perceve my improvement. Perhaps you should ask another person like I originaly said. (you'll be suprised to see some of the responses you'll get, good or bad)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:49, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::I'd suggest that you listen to ceranthor's advice. He's(?) been there and got the T-shirt. [[User:Malleus Fatuorum|Malleus]] [[User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum|Fatuorum]] 02:08, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Your right Malleus. He does have the T-shirt. I'm sorry NSD, You'll have to wait a couple more months :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 02:11, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Suggest August, you'll be out of school then and can safely obsess about checking the current count.  You'll lose some votes to age, as you know, and some will say a year after a block is better.  So if you fail in August, you can try again in February.--[[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt|talk]]) 02:32, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. but I was thinking of early August or late July bacuse I'm going to be fairly buisy after August 15. It's not that I want to go up for one faster but for personal reasons.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 02:36, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'd probably support you, as someone who hasn't worked with you but occasionally follows along your edits, in another 4–6 months. Main suggestion: type slower and proofread all your posts ;) '''<span style="font-color:black;">•</span> [[User:Fetchcomms|<span style="color:black;">ɔ</span>]] [[User talk:Fetchcomms|<span style="color:black;">ʃ</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Fetchcomms|<span style="color:black;">→</span>]]''' 04:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::To be honest. I'd laugh if I ever got an '''Oppose''' with the rational of "Too many spelling mistakes" Anyway, thanks for the comment :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 16:37, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:::This might seem ''way'' to premature but what do you all think about me going through admin coaching? Apparently I have the potential to be a candidate but as you all said, maturity issues may still exist or at least linger in people's minds. so what do you all think about this? Is it a good idea and who would even want to coach me based off of my semi-checkered past?--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 19:16, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::::For some people, admin coaching works. I think for you though it's a different case. The editing maturity is not quite there yet; give it some time. I'm confident that you are similar to me - it will probably take a few months for you to mature, settle into what you enjoy, and eventually, succeed at RfA. I think you have a good shot, WS, so just keep up the stellar work. '''[[User:Ceranthor|<span style="color:#2F4F4F; font-family:Optima;">ceran</span>]]'''[[User_talk:Ceranthor|<span style="color:#2F4F4F; font-family:Optima;">''thor''</span>]] 21:52, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::I have setteled into what I [[U-boat|enjoy]]. However, why do you think that for some people, admin coaching does not work? And as for the editing maturity, I have improved but I still understand that I'm not quite there yet. However I'm still a bit confused about the first part of your comment?--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:01, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::I was referring to the admin areas that they enjoy. As for the other part... Some people are really dedicated to coaching and really learn from it ([[User:Phantomsteve|Phantomsteve]] comes to mind, though he wasn't admin coached iirc), while others don't get anything out of it. I just think you'll be one of the latter who mature on their own time, that's all. If you want to, admin coaching might help, but it's not very liked over at RfA. '''[[User:Ceranthor|<span style="color:#2F4F4F; font-family:Optima;">ceran</span>]]'''[[User_talk:Ceranthor|<span style="color:#2F4F4F; font-family:Optima;">''thor''</span>]] 22:37, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Oh. Well first off, I do enjoy helping out over at DYK (I have over 300 edits to it). And there is always a backlog over there with updateing and whatnot. And I guess I can just learn on my own :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:40, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== SM UB-50 ==

Could you do some patrols by lookig at the ships Sunk section and working from the chunks there? I'm tired. 
[[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 02:54, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:If you give me 11 hours. It's 11 PM here and I'm going to bed :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 02:56, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:Cmmon, two patrols? It's been eleven hours. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 18:27, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::sure. I was just trying to work on another project of mine.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 18:33, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

==DYK for German submarine U-30 (1936)==
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|text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions#May 1 2010|May 1, 2010]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[German submarine U-30 (1936)]]''''', which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>([[User:Rjanag/Pageview stats|here's how]], [http://stats.grok.se/en/201005/German_submarine_U-30_(1936) quick check] )</small> and add it to [[WP:DYKSTATS|DYKSTATS]] if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know? talk page]].
}}  [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 08:03, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== Have one on me! ==

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[[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  has bought you a pint!  Sharing a pint is a great way to bond with other editors after a day of hard work.  Spread the [[WP:LOVE|WikiLove]] by buying someone else a pint, whether it be someone with whom you have collaborated or had disagreements.  Cheers!  <br />
 
Spread the good cheer and camaraderie by adding {{tls|WikiPint}} to their talk page with a friendly message.</div><!-- Template:WikiPint -->
:Thanks for your co-nom (even if it was late!) and just for bein' there. :) [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  17:34, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:Well thanks. And sorry but I don't drink! (I'm under 21)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 17:36, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== Query reply ==

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== [[SMS Viribus Unitis]] GAN ==

Snuck up and edited it under my nose! Good job, and I think it's good for a GA. Also, do you think the otehr ones of their calss are ready? [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 21:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yes I do. And I sence another GTC commming up in the next few days. Shall I let you do you [[WP:GAN|hounors]]?--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 21:42, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::<small> Quoting from those annoying J.G.Wentworth ads</small> '''It's your article, nominate when you feel like it'''! I can do my own ones. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 21:45, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:::(Laughs) OK then. Let me get a few sources that are needed and I'll nominate it. Oh and I have a feeling that we are going to be the first to get an entire nation's (Austria-Hungary) Battleships to GA status and then a GTC. I think that I should be AH for the Wikicup next year. Perhaps you should join as well.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 21:48, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm sometimes gone for long periods at unexpected times, so no thanks (maybe when that will not happen anymore) . We are racing against [[User:Parsecboy]] and his German battleship topic. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 22:00, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Also, we've got [[Ersatz Monarch class battleship]] (hopefully I can do the same thing t oher as I did to Kii.). On a different note, how do you feel [[French battleship Masséna]] has come? [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 22:06, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah. I know, on both accounts. And that French battleship is very nice looking. but Don't you think that we need to foucus on Austria-hungary? In order to beat Parsec?--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:16, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I was just finishing editing [[Maine class battleship]]. I'll go nominate [[SMS Tegetthoff]] to make you happy. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 22:22, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::::You'll need to fix the bare URL's. Oh and can you help me do the same to [[SMS Viribus Unitis]]?--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:24, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Umm, sure. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 22:31, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Thanks. I just need you to fix up each of the citations so that they have the name, the author, the access date ect...--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:33, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Ummm, I don't see any problems with the authors and so forth. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 22:42, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::No, I need you to add in the author ect to the existing citations. Right now there's about 5 of them that only have a link with the name. We need more info on each citation.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:44, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
{{outdent}} Two of the linkes are dead, the one about the lighthouse and one about the 3-D history. I can't get the nominator for the two frogmen, and the mint doesn't have who wrote the page, and I'm going to be busy for the next hlaf hour. You should try and find them, sorry. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 22:53, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:Ok then.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:54, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== [[WP:CUP]] ==

I will take a wild card. I think it will only take about 300 for a wild card, but maybe more than twice that for a 2nd place.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|BIO]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:FOUR]]) </small> 01:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== DYK probs ==

Both were fixed. Thanks, [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 03:25, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:Could you also asses [[Fench abttleship Republique (1902]] and her sistership, the [[French battleship Patrie (1903)|Patrie]]? I've got them at DYK also, along with a large backlog at [[WP:MHAR]]. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 16:49, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::They are both good to go.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 16:52, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

==DYK check tool==
is well known to fail on (too) many 5x expansion. Thus an advice is to run it on the current article version and then go to history, select past version, re-run, and divide manually. This can save from embarrassment at T:TDYK. Another note, we usually give a chance for improvement while the article is at T:TDYK and use [[File:Symbol delete vote.svg|16px]] when it is not feasible to fix the nom (article appeared on ITN, or had 100k size before failed expansion, or something like that). Cheers. [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 03:51, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:Oh sorry about that. I did'nt really know!--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 13:22, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== GA article passed ==

Hi, I reviewed the article you nominated at [[Talk:German submarine U-42 (1939)/GA1]] and passed it. My only wish (besides wanting to know more about what happened to the crew) is that the article had a map of the submarines voyages. Congratulations on a Good article!  Regards, [[User:Xtzou|<b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b>]] ''([[User talk:Xtzou|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]])'' 19:05, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::I wish that I knew on both accounts as well. U-boats are very fascinateing IMHO. you can see a map of all of U-42's patrols on Uboat.net. And as for the crew. I suggest Uboatwaffe as a good place to find that info. Thanks for passing that GA for me as well :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 19:08, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== WWII - British English ==

Sorry for not reading that bit on the talk page, have a good one!

Cheers,
<br>[[User:Tonster|Tonster]] ([[User talk:Tonster|talk]]) 01:29, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:No problem at all :) Glad to at least see someone trying to make constructive edits to that article.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:30, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

== [[SM UB-50]], more SGF bombing ==

I finished fixing the bare URLs. It also appears SGF just email bombed me with an account that wasn't mentioned in the SPI case. You'll love this subject line. it said "If you don't give me White Shadows's email address then I won't stop email bombing you ever." I'm not going to give him your email address. ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉ message]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|changes]]) 13:31, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Great. I'll go and finish the last patrol now. And thanks for not telling SGF my e-mail. If he ever found out. I'd have to get a new one.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:21, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

== Unneeded comments ==

In a high-drama environment, comments like [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tanthalas39&action=historysubmit&diff=359963400&oldid=359963264 this] really don't help at all. I've removed it. I hope you have no objections. [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 00:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:You're right. That was not really needed. Thanks for removeing it :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 00:53, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::The "flipping" comment could have used more thought.  Not the "flipping" part (perfectly acceptable), the tone of the rest of it.  The preview button is God's gift to wiki.--[[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt|talk]]) 01:10, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:::It may have sounded a bit off the deep end but I'm not mad at all. My tone was that of a calm person when I wrote it but others may have interpeted that diffrently as we are all cursed to talk in text.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:12, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::::That is fine.  Insert a smiley next time :)?--[[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt|talk]]) 01:14, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Good idea ;) [[WP:ANI|War]] is such a horrible thing.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Talkback ==

{{talkback|Silver seren}}

...*dies* It's a bit too complicated and over my head to initiate the case. I guess i'll just wait for you to get on again. Or maybe someone else will do it instead, hopefully. [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 03:12, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

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== German destroyer Z44 ==

I'm concerned about the sourcing on this article; would you please address the concerns that I have posted at [[T:TDYK]]?  [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 15:09, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
:You can withdraw the nomination.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:22, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

==DYK for SM UB-50==
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|text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions#May 7 2010|May 7, 2010]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[SM UB-50]]''''', which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>([[User:Rjanag/Pageview stats|here's how]], [http://stats.grok.se/en/201005/SM_UB-50 quick check] )</small> and add it to [[WP:DYKSTATS|DYKSTATS]] if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know? talk page]].
}}  [[WP:Did you know|The DYK project]] ([[T:TDYK|nominate]]) 00:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

== Larry D. Alexander ==

Just letting you know I moved [[Larry Dell Alexander]] to [[Larry D. Alexander]] as he seems to go by his initials most often.  I think this is favored by the MOS.  However I've now also discovered that [[Larry Alexander]] was salted pre-emptively even though the page was never at that title.  Before I go make another RFPP request I thought you might have advice on which title would be best since you're the one who did most of the work creating the article.  You can reply here, I always watch pages I start threads on.  '''[[User:Soap|<span style="color:green;">—</span>]][[User talk:Soap|<span style="color:#057602;">''Soap''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Soap|<span style="color:green;">—</span>]]''' 19:08, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:Based on what you told me, I think that Larry D. Alexander would be the best choice with both Larry Alexander and Larry Dell Alexander being redirects. Hope this helps.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:04, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::I went and unprotected [[Larry Alexander]] as well. Why I have your talk page on my watch list, I have no idea :) --[[User:RegentsPark|RegentsPark]] ([[User talk:RegentsPark|talk]]) 22:28, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Thnaks and yeah, I get that [http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/cgi-bin/watcher.py?db=enwiki_p&titles=User%3AWhite+Shadows&measure=centijimbos a lot]. It seems to have leveled off at the 97-96 mark.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:30, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

== Talkback ==

{{talkback|Template_talk:Did_you_know|42 (song)|ts=21:33, 9 May 2010 (UTC)}}
Need new hook ideas.  ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉ message]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|changes]]) 21:33, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

:I dropped off an idea of a different approach for a hook, hope this helps. --'''[[User:Taelus|<span style="color:#007FAA;">Taelus</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Taelus|<span style="color:#AA22CC;">'''Talk'''</span>]]) 22:04, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

== Monarchs ==

In the archives of [[WT:OMT]], there's a discussion aobut those ships, which favors not including them. I suggest opening a new one before any more edits. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 22:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:Alright then. We don't have to add them in. I'll just make them for a DYK myself :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:38, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==German destroyer Z44==
Please see my comments at [[T:TDYK]] [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 12:43, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

:Are you intending to fix the issue I raised, otherwise the hook will not get promoted. [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 07:10, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry about that. I withdraw the nomination :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 10:36, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== Fearful ==

I'm fearful of editing Wikipedia. Will you help alleviate my fear? [[User:Volalo|Volalo]] ([[User talk:Volalo|talk]]) 07:57, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:Check your earlier contribs. A few people have replied.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 10:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
::[[Wikipedia:Help desk#Fearful]] (link for convenience), [[User:Spongefrog|<span style="color:#004225;font-family:High Tower Text;">'''Lord Spongefrog''',</span>]] [[User talk:Spongefrog#top|<span style="color:blue;font-family:High Tower Text;">(I am Czar of all Russias!)</span>]] 10:44, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

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== May 2010 ==
<s>[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=]] Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of [[Special:Contributions/White Shadows|your recent edits]], such as the one you made to [[:Arthur Phillip]], did not appear to be constructive and has been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]] or removed. Please use [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|the sandbox]] for any test edits you would like to make, and read the [[Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia|welcome page]] to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-vandalism1 --> [[User:Hi878|Hi878]] ([[User talk:Hi878|talk]]) 01:41, 12 May 2010 (UTC)</s>
:Wow... You reverted it just as I clicked the button on Igloo. :) [[User:Hi878|Hi878]] ([[User talk:Hi878|talk]]) 01:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::Friendly Fire! I'm on your side!--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::That puzzled me too.  I saw the warning and went huh?  Then I looked at the contributions and said huh?--[[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt|talk]]) 01:44, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::::{{ec}}Now Igloo marks all of your edits as probable vandalism. :) [[User:Hi878|Hi878]] ([[User talk:Hi878|talk]]) 01:44, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I did'nt even screw up this time! you reverted my reverting vandalism :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:45, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, but you did mess up. You didn't let me have the revision. :) [[User:Hi878|Hi878]] ([[User talk:Hi878|talk]]) 01:55, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm just quick like that. Huggle gives me ninja powers.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Igloo gives better ninja powers, my browser was just being slow that time... You reverted as it was saying "Attempting to revert vandalism". :) [[User:Hi878|Hi878]] ([[User talk:Hi878|talk]]) 02:02, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::(Laughs) That was a pretty funny situation. Anyway, I'm going to bed. Goodnight :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 02:04, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Your ninja powers are no match for <s>The Dark Side</s> my admin powers! I've just blocked the real perpetrator for 5 years! [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  02:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::... Well fine then... I reported him, does that count for anything? :) [[User:Hi878|Hi878]] ([[User talk:Hi878|talk]]) 02:06, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Sweet. (dreams, one day I'll be able to do that) However, we all know that [[Ninja vs Pirate|Ninjas would indeed beat Pirates]].--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 02:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== My RfA ==

I wanted to thank you for your support and co-nom.  Sucessful or not, your confidence and support is important to me.  See ya 'round  [[User:Tide rolls|'''<span style="color:White;background:darkRed">Tide</span>''']][[User talk:Tide rolls|'''<span style="color:darkRed">rolls</span>''']] 23:53, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:No problem. I promised you that I'd support and would even add in a co-nom if I could whip up a good one. I've kept my word because you truely are a major asset to this place any Wikipedia would be better off with you pushing a few extra buttons :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 23:55, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Performance of Type 1936B ==

The max speed and range mentioned in the article is quite different (especially the range) than the General Characteristics listed to the right.  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Driftwood87|Driftwood87]] ([[User talk:Driftwood87|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Driftwood87|contribs]]) 00:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Perhaps that can be explained by the varying preformances in the Destroyers individually.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 00:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::It just seems a range of 6200 metres at 19 knots isn't right. Or am I not understanding this correctly? [[User:Driftwood87|Driftwood87]] ([[User talk:Driftwood87|talk]]) 01:15, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::It should'nt be meters, it's nautical miles.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:17, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Barnstar ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gold;" | Wow, I'm impressed with the amount of DYKs you have (20+!) and all your GAs! You have improved ''a lot'' since when you've started. Keep up the amazing work! --<span style="font-size:110%">'''[[User:Meaghan|<span style="color:#007700;">M<span style="color:#009900;">e<span style="color:#00bb00;">a<span style="color:#00dd00;">g</span>h</span>a</span>n</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Meaghan|:)]]</sup>''' ≈</span> 01:51, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
|}
::Wow. Thanks Meaghan :) I appreciate it. Alot can happen to a guy in 3 months wikipedia wise :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:53, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== JSTOR Access ==

The [http://www.bpl.org/index.htm Boston Public Library] gives [[JSTOR]] access remotely to any of its members.[http://www.bpl.org/electronic/alpha.asp] You can sign up to get an eCard [http://catalog.mbln.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=bpl1&menu=account#focus#focus here], although technically you have to be a Massachusetts state resident. [[User:NuclearWarfare|<b style="color:navy;">NW</b>]] ''([[User talk:NuclearWarfare|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]])'' 01:59, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks NW, though I live in Virginia and I doubt that I'm going to me a Mass. resident any time soon :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 02:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::Note that they only ''technically'' require you to live in MA {{mono|1=;)}} Won't say anything more. [[User:NuclearWarfare|<b style="color:navy;">NW</b>]] ''([[User talk:NuclearWarfare|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]])'' 02:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Wink wink, nudge nudge :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 21:12, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

==DYK for 42 (song)==
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|text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions#May 14 2010|May 14, 2010]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[42 (song)]]''''', which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>([[User:Rjanag/Pageview stats|here's how]], [http://stats.grok.se/en/201005/42_(song) quick check] )</small> and add it to [[WP:DYKSTATS|DYKSTATS]] if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know? talk page]].
}}  [[WP:Did you know|The DYK project]] ([[T:TDYK|nominate]]) 00:02, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== Talkback ==

{{talkback|Sturmvogel 66|ACR|ts=02:34, 14 May 2010 (UTC)}}
-'''[[User:MBK004|MBK]]'''<sub>[[User talk:MBK004|004]]</sub> 02:34, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== Kronprinz ==

Hi White Shadows, I noticed you made some edits to {{SMS|Kronprinz|1914}}. I've been working on these German BB articles for over 3 years now, and would really like to do them all on my own (as far as the writing/etc. goes). I don't want to be too territorial about it, but it's not as though there's a shortage of battleship articles, right? Thanks. [[User:Parsecboy|Parsecboy]] ([[User talk:Parsecboy|talk]]) 02:39, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:This user is a bit strange <small>sorry for third person</small> After my edits to the 1936B class, he jumped in and nomed one for DYK. Then, there's this, as I marked my name on your sanbox <small>BTW, you can remove it</small>. So, WS, I'd suggest you follow Parsec's advice. We've got [[Erzherzog Karl class battleship|this]] to finish up! [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 02:57, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:You apparently have'nt edited the article in over [http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&grouped=on&page=SMS_Kronprinz_(1914) 2 years]. And I was just trying to help out by adding in an image and expanding the lead. But if your that "territorial" about German BB then I can just go and work on AH and then find something else to do. Sorry, just trying to help....--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 10:40, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::And if I cannot edit these articles, is there ''any'' German Battleships or Battlecruisers that you can point to me that I'm allowed to work on? There's got to be at least one ship that you can let me write.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 10:44, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, the battlecruisers are all but done (i.e., all that remains is getting the last few of them through FAC). As to the rest, I'd really rather do them all myself; as I've been working towards this goal for 3 years now, long before OMT was even a thought. I have all of the necessary sources at least for the dreadnoughts. There are a ton of British BB articles that are in fairly rough shape that you could work on, for instance. [[User:Parsecboy|Parsecboy]] ([[User talk:Parsecboy|talk]]) 10:53, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::OK I understnad. I would have the same feelings to some extend about U-boats. However, considering that I do not own a single book on battleships, I must rely on the class page to write the individual articles themselves. Thats why I was working on Kronprinz. With that said, I doubt that I can get anything done with British BB's.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 10:56, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's alright. I suggested the British BBs because they're much better documented than others (I've had to accumulate a number of books both on the ships and the war to write the German articles) and they might be easier to write (I noticed you're having trouble on this with the Austro-Hungarian ships). You could also try the American ships, especially those that saw service during World War II; several of the {{sclass|South Dakota|battleship}}s could use work. MBK pointed out inter-library loan as a possible option for the Austrian ships; for the American and British ones, there's been enough written that you could probably just get by with Google Books. 
::::::One thing I've found is it's generally easier to start with a class article before hitting the individual ships, because the service history is supposed to be a shorter summary of the individual ship articles. Technical stuff is much easier to come by (especially with regards to armament; [navweaps.com] is an excellent source for guns and torpedoes and such). Maybe try one of the Standard battleship classes, like the {{sclass|Pennsylvania|battleship|5}} or {{sclass|New Mexico|battleship|4}}es; there should be no shortage of books on them, I'm sure. [[User:Parsecboy|Parsecboy]] ([[User talk:Parsecboy|talk]]) 11:10, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks Parsec! I'll take a look at them. Good luck with the German BB's and I hope you don't mind if I still make the occasional typo correction or other minor fix if I ever come across one. Your Ships are very interstiona and I have spent litterally hours reading about them. good job :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 20:39, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== [[Serj Tankian]] ==

Hey White Shadows, I've finally starting to rewrite his article after what feels like a million google links. So far I've finished the early life section and am working on SoaD and Soil, would you mind looking when you can? Thanks,--'''''[[User:Skater|<span style="font-family:Chiller;Color:#808080">SKATER</span>]]''''' [[User_talk:Skater|<sup><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#000000">'''Speak.'''</span></sup>]] 16:51, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'll take a look fight now. However, I'm going to the movies to see Iron Man 2 tonight so I'll likely not be on that much until late.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 20:41, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::It's a failry OK article. Some major issues with lack of citations (and I added in a few citation needed templates). You may also want to rename the Soil section System of a Down as they soon renamed the band name. Take for example [[Chris Martin]], the setion is called "Coldplay", not the original name of the band "The Starfish". In an effort to same time (and to comply with [[WP:MOS]] regulations), you may also want to just use the proper multiple citation format where you cite a source say: <nowiki><ref name=NAME>INSERT CITATION HERE</ref></nowiki> and then to cite it again, instead of copying the whole thing just put <nowiki><ref name=NAME/></nowiki> and it will do the same thing as copying and pasteing the citation over and over again. IF you are still a bit confused, just look at a few of my edits to the article and you'll see what I did :) If you have any other Q's or comments just ask and if you want me to read over the article again, after you make a few more changes, just ask :) Good luck and happy editing!--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 03:18, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::Ok, thanks a lot for the review. I'll definitely try to fix all of that and general expansion as I go (Surprisingly finding sources on his is rather challenging since he's so quiet about his personal life). Happy editing!--'''''[[User:Skater|<span style="font-family:Chiller;Color:#808080">SKATER</span>]]''''' [[User_talk:Skater|<sup><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#000000">'''Speak.'''</span></sup>]] 22:31, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

== [[German Type IXA submarine]], calling all 90+ TPS ==

Can I move it to the main space now? Sturmvogel 66 was the only person to oppose the creation of sub-classes. So to my TPS, what do you all think?--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 02:42, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
#I think that it should have a "Ships Sunk" list, as well as some book refs (I've got one or two). Besides that, it's fine. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 02:57, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::There is no way that I'm adding in a 200+ long list of ships sunk. I've got every single one of them done exept for U-37, the one with the most ships sunk, at 53. If you want to add them in, go ahead but I'm not doing that right now or any time soon. As for the books, I'll get to them for a GA but I'm only aiming for a DYK right now and I'll get the GA in a few days.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 03:07, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
#{{ec}} I made some copyedits. ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) 03:19, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:I noticed. the article is on my watchlist afterall! What I'm really askig is do you think it's good to go?--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 03:20, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::Now that all of the typos are fixed, I think it's ready. ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) 03:29, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::OK thanks.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 03:29, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Do I get DYK and/or GA credit? [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 03:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'll give you DYK credit as a co-nom but if you want to get co-nom GA credit, you'll have to fix all the issues that come up in the GAN since I wrote the entire thing, includeing the sections that you copied!--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 03:56, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Sure. I'm happy. You can go and either go u-boating or, umm, [[Special:Nuke|have fun]]. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 03:58, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::OK then. I'm going to bed now.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 04:00, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
{{outdent}}
Do I also get DYK credit for being the major copyeditor? ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) 04:01, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:Umm. Im not sure that copy-editing counts as DYK credit. I can give you co-nom Ga credit if you fix any issues with Buggie though. And to make it up to you, how about you go review my GA nom for [[German U-boat bases in occupied Norway]] and I can give you a barnstar for you review. (And please don't quick pass it bassed of off our firneship) If you need help with a GA review, just ask [[User:Wehwalt]]. And another insentive, People who review GA's are given a  major plus in most RFAs :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 04:05, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::come to think of it Buggie, you did'nt dio much either. Can you just both get GA credit and let me get DYKk on this one? I did all fo te writeing afterall. (Sorry if I sound a bit too mean) I'm going to bed now. Goodnight :) (PS, I need to get one of those status bar things at the top of my page)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 04:10, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::You can get a status indicator by adding <code><nowiki>{{statustop|offset=<number>}}</nowiki></code>. Create [[User:White Shadows/Status]] and add either <code>online</code>, <code>offline</code>, <code>around</code>, <code>busy</code>, or <code>sleep</code>. You can change the page when your status changes. ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) 04:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Heck, I'm fine with that. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 13:23, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== [[Talk:German U-boat bases in occupied Norway/GA1]] ==

I have reviewed the article. There are a few issues that need to be cleared up. I have currently placed it on hold. ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) 04:37, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks. I'll get to it right now :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 14:16, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
I've addresed all of your issues :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 14:31, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Typo ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=HMS_Anson_%2879%29&action=historysubmit&diff=362308613&oldid=362308085 Thanks for that]. But you misspelled typo. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 19:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah. I know. I already clicked save page by the time I noticed it :) Can you tell NSD that I've fixed all of the issues on the GAN of mine? Thanks.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 19:34, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== U-66 ==

Hi White Shadows. I notice that in your list for WW2, you mention U-66, at [[German submarine u-66 (1940)]]. I'm wokring on it at [[User:Buggie111/U-boat 66]], so could you please leave that one for me? [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 21:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:Sure. Do you want to help me begin the list itself as well? I plan on getting all of these to GA class and then getting it to GTC. Then I hope to make it a FT later on.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 21:58, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== [[User:White Shadows/White Shadows]] ==

Yet another TPS request. Is it ready?--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 19:36, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:Looks good to me. [[User:Airplaneman|<span style="color:blue;size=2">Airplaneman</span>]][[User talk:Airplaneman|<span style="color:#33dd44;size=2">  ✈</span>]] 19:40, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:It took me forever to get reception sources, though source #3 is not too reliable, but it will have to do. Any good DYK hooks?--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 19:41, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:Did the usual typo fixing. I don't think this one is DYK worthy though. ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) 19:45, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::Why not, It is long enough. I just have some fairly crappy sources apart from the reception section.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 19:47, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I've just beaten it around a bit to avoid some redundancy. Looks ok - I didn't check the refs as I know you're good with all that. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<span style="color:#accC10; background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</span>]] </span></small> 19:49, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Thanks. All of the refs should be good (I stole them from [[The Hardest Part (Coldplay song)]] but #3 is only used as it has the most (and only) coverage of the song's release. If I ever find a better suited one, I'll replace it. I'm still looking for more refs as we speek....--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 19:53, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Alright then. Pedro, would you mind history mergeing that into [[White Shadows]] for me?--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 20:52, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Ooh, let me try! Do you want your subpage preserved or shall suppress the redirect? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  22:07, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I went ahead and did it since the instructions at [[WP:HISTMERGE]] made it look fairly easy and it was easier than I thought! I didn;t leave a redirect because I figured you;d only pester me to delete it under U1 later anyway. Hope you don't mind. Best, [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  22:15, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks. Now let's see if it i'll survive the [[WP:Deletionists|vampires]] at AFD.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:38, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Can ''anyone'' think of a good DYK hook. Or can anoyone add onto the article in order to create a good DYK hook. In an attmept to entice you, I'll give you a barnstar for your researching skills.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 23:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Why not just go with a really boring hook like ...that "[[White Shadows]]" is the ''n''th single for [[Coldplay]]'s third album ''[[X&Y]]''? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:14, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
{{outdent}}
You mean like:
*...that "[[White Shadows]]" is the fifth single for [[Coldplay]]'s third album ''[[X&Y]]''?

Never thought about using more of a boring hook. ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) 23:20, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:Technically it was the 6th since the song What If was released in Belgium and France and is on my I-pod touch as a single. [[WP:DYK|Off you go, off you go]].--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 23:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

::::::::::fine by me. why not nominate the article yourself so you get nom credit and I get credit for createing it?--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 23:19, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::Because if you (or someone else) nominates it, I'm probably just about uninvolved enough to approve it, not least since it obviously meets the criteria. If you can find more material, you could try and aim for GA... [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  23:26, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::Ok then. NSD, shall you get the honors? and can you HJ, verify it? I'm pretty buisy with an Unblock request right now....--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 23:29, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
{{outdent}}
[[T:TDYK#White Shadows|Nominated]]. ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) 23:39, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:I find nothing wrong, just to tell the belated questioning. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 00:04, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::Then go verify it! :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 00:06, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== Sunshine ==


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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid #4A98F2;" | Hello White Shadows! ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) has given you a bit of [[sunshine]] to brighten your day! Sunshine promotes [[WP:LOVE|WikiLove]] and hopefully it has made your day better. Spread the sunshine by adding <tt>{{<nowiki>subst:</nowiki>[[User:Meaghan/Sunshine]]}}</tt> to someone else's talk page, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. In addition, you can spread the sunshine to anyone who visits your userpage and/or talk page by adding {{tlu|User:Meaghan/Sunshine icon}}. Happy editing! ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) 21:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
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== Your buddy ==

[[User:Volalo|Your fearful buddy]] from [[User_talk:White_Shadows#Fearful|higher up on this page]] just wants you to know he's replied to you on [[User_talk:Digago#Blocked|this thread]] on the talk page of the Digago account. '''[[User:Soap|<span style="color:green;">—</span>]][[User talk:Soap|<span style="color:#057602;">''Soap''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Soap|<span style="color:green;">—</span>]]''' 23:12, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:He is not my "buddy". I'm just trying to save his butt from an indef block :) I've replied though and I have his talk page on my watchlist.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 23:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::I meant to make my sarcasm clearer, sorry. '''[[User:Soap|<span style="color:green;">—</span>]][[User talk:Soap|<span style="color:#057602;">''Soap''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Soap|<span style="color:green;">—</span>]]''' 23:21, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Tis OK.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 23:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
*WS, Volalo/Digago is trolling you.  I guarantee it. Don't feed him. --[[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] ([[User talk:Floquenbeam|talk]]) 21:28, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:Your probably right......--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 21:30, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== About Mattisse's talk page ==

Check out her RFC's, or that talk page's history, to see why I said what I did. - [[user:Cyborg Ninja|<span style="color:#663399;">Cyborg Ninja</span>]] 00:34, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:I know why :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 21:09, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== Talkback ==

{{talkback|NerdyScienceDude|DYK nomination for White Shadows|ts=03:35, 17 May 2010 (UTC)}}
Need new hook ideas.  ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) 03:35, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== Sure ==

{{talkback|Silver seren}}
:I responded on my talk page. [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 21:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

== Type IXA article ==

I see you went ahead and wrote up an article on the Type IXA without asking about doing so on WP:Ships as I'd asked you to do. Not a good thing to do; we operate here by consensus.--[[User:Sturmvogel 66|Sturmvogel 66]] ([[User talk:Sturmvogel 66|talk]]) 06:45, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'm afraid that you are wrong. I did ask but no one answered. So I waited but after a few days, I moved it. You seem to be the only one to not like the idea. Sorry...--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 10:12, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

== On admin status ==

Re [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMalleus_Fatuorum&action=historysubmit&diff=362716093&oldid=362714695 this]: I resigned because I've always argued that "authority positions" should be periodically removed and the users in question forced to live as "ordinary" users for a while, and I thought that someone needed to lead the way. A lot of our current admins passed RFA when Wikipedia was a much friendlier environment, and since the change to a more authoritarian setup have been sheltered by people's reluctance to "fight the power", so genuinely don't realise how toxic the environment has become for non-admins.

If you want a fairly obvious example, you were blocked for [[User_talk:Iridescent/Archive_12#Just_a_few_words_of_advice...|these comments]] a few months ago, despite their just being frustrated comments with no actual element of abuse, of the kind anyone makes when irritated.* At the same time, as part of a related conversation, an admin was [[User:White_Shadows/Archive_6#The_first_of...|posting obvious and easily checked lies about me]] on your talkpage (here is [http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/rfap/index.php?name=iridescent every comment I've ever made at RFA]; anyone, do feel free to point out which are "outrageous things that really sling mud at people unfairly, with a lot of hyperbole and sometimes outright lies"), and didn't even get criticized by any of the dozens of admins watching your talkpage. Likewise, Malleus, as he never tires of saying, was once blocked for using the word "sycophantic"; meanwhile [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/JzG2#Incivility.2C_personal_attacks.2C_and_general_rudeness|this admin]] hasn't even been warned, let alone blocked. If you go digging you can find example after example of this kind of double-standard.

I wasn't resigning out of some kind of sense of ideological "I hate admins" purity—if I ever come across a situation where admin buttons will be useful, I wouldn't hesitate to switch them back on. (I did actually ask for them back on one occasion, to clean up the worst of the mess at [[First Flight High School]], but the request prompted others to look at the page so in the event I didn't need them.) If you ever do go through RFA (hint: [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMattisse&action=historysubmit&diff=361804213&oldid=361605460 this] definitely won't help that particular cause), I'd strongly recommend making the same promise (my suggestion was three months as an ordinary user for every year as an admin). Wikipedia's environment is changing quite quickly, and there is a genuine problem with those at the top thinking today's project with {{NUMBEROFUSERS}} editors works the same as it did when they passed RFA. Even Arbcom kick their members off after at most three years, but admins last forever. (There have only been [[Wikipedia:Former administrators|49 desysoppings of abusive admins]] in ''the entire history'' of Wikipedia.)&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|<span style="color:#E45E05;">iride</span>]][[User talk:Iridescent|<span style="color:#C1118C;">scent</span>]] 10:44, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
<br><nowiki>*</nowiki><small>I think that block actually had the right effect, albeit for the wrong reasons; it forced you to think about whether you actually wanted to be here and why; plus, it got you thinking about ''why'' having a block log can be as sign of a user being targeted by an admin clique, rather than a sign that the user is abusive (which was, after all, the point of my post that started that whole exchange). It was a sledgehammer-to-crack-a-nut, though, and if you'd been an admin at the time Julian would never have dreamed of blocking for it. That's no criticism of Julian, who's one of our better admins—it's just an illustration of how ingrained the double standard in Wikipedia's system is, that even he was applying it.</small>
:Thanks for the reply. I litterally am walking out my door right now so I'll get back to you in more depth when I return home later today. Thanks :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 10:59, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
::TO be honest, I supported Atama in his RFA and I feel like he is one of our better admins. A the time, to be dead-honest, I had a burning passion to get back at you and malleus for everything that you ever did to me. Howver, what I said was not block-deserveing and Julian only blocked me to keep me out of possibly bigger trouble. (I now realized that he probably saved me from myself to be honest) You are right however, Had I been an admin or had just a bit more "importantness" in the project, he would not have blocked me at all. But as you pointed out, there are double standards here. It is hard to just edit as a normal non-admin. But just one question, will you ever just ask for the tools back just because you want to? You seem to have been one of the "better admins" and I feel that if more people that were "better" got the tools, this project would be a better place.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 20:48, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Basically, what I said in my last paragraph above. If I was regularly finding myself in a position where they'd be useful—if I went back to New Pages patrol or clearing out [[CAT:SD]], or I found myself needing to do a number of history merges, for instance—I wouldn't have an ideological objection to going back to admin status. I wouldn't go back just for the sake of having it; aside from the ''de facto'' immunity from blocks, and people generally being more polite to you than they would be otherwise, there's no actual ''benefit'' to admin status unless you like bossing people about, which is a side of things that never appealed to me—it's a [[WP:BADSITES]] cliché but nonetheless true that the people who generally use the admin tools the most are the ones who are least suited to use them.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|<span style="color:#E45E05;">iride</span>]][[User talk:Iridescent|<span style="color:#C1118C;">scent</span>]] 21:07, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I know. Many admins hardly never do any content work anymore (If they ever did any in the first place) Heck, I'm not the kind of person who wants to (myuch less likes to) tell others what to do. I only ever wanted the tools to help out to the ever growing backlog at DYK (Which only has about 3-5 true deticated admins to the project even though the list has 20+ names) and AIV. (Though I only have about 100 edits at AIV)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 21:12, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::I got through RFA with a grand total of zero edits to AIV, as did Karanacs, as did Moni. The Counter Vandalism Unit may like sometimes to act like they own Wikipedia, but they really don't. If you want to "rack up points" to game an RFA, the place where you'll score the highest is still [[WP:AFD]] as it's the easiest place to demonstrate that you do/don't understand policy. The [[User talk:Iridescent/Archive 7#How to Pass RFA Without Really Trying (notebooks out, socks):|cynical but true cheat-sheet for gaming RFA]] I once wrote is two years old, but just as accurate as it ever was (just change the names). If you ever do go for RFA, I'll warn you you'll be disappointed with the end result if you pass.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|<span style="color:#E45E05;">iride</span>]][[User talk:Iridescent|<span style="color:#C1118C;">scent</span>]] 21:41, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
::Key word:'''Pass'''. And I cannot find it....--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 21:59, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Whoops, fixed link.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|<span style="color:#E45E05;">iride</span>]][[User talk:Iridescent|<span style="color:#C1118C;">scent</span>]] 23:19, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Wow, I've met all of those requirements. Now I just need to wait for the edit-war/drama on Giano's talk page...--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 23:23, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

==DYK for German Type IXA submarine==
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|text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions#May 18 2010|May 18, 2010]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[German Type IXA submarine]]''''', which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>([[User:Rjanag/Pageview stats|here's how]], [http://stats.grok.se/en/201005/German_Type_IXA_submarine quick check] )</small> and add it to [[WP:DYKSTATS|DYKSTATS]] if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know? talk page]].
}}  [[WP:Did you know|The DYK project]] ([[T:TDYK|nominate]]) 18:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

== ''The Wikipedia Signpost'': 17 May 2010 ==

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== Useful for the essay ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Carrite#The_Stolfi_Manifesto This] seems like it might be very useful, along with everything else on the page. I completely agree with that Manifesto, it comprises my ideas on BLPs and tagging perfectly, along with AfD. What do you think? [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 21:16, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:I find this very usefull to be honest. I never though about BLP's and tags.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 21:20, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

== [[German submarine U-37 (1938)]] ==

I was just looking at this article, and the first two image captions say U-38. Is this correct? I can't tell since the original image descriptions don't have the name of the U-boat. ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) 23:13, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's U-37. I've fixed that since someone muct have changed it.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 23:16, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

== Austro Hungarian battleships ==

I've got the FT box at [[User:Buggie111/The Topic Hut]]. I'm currently a-working on the list. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 12:39, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
:I think you should submit Ersatz to [[WP:MHAR]]. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 21:17, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
::Can you? I'm about to nominate it for a DYK and get a few more sources....--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 21:19, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

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Regards [[User:AlexandrDmitri|-- Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri)]] ([[User talk:AlexandrDmitri|talk]]) 16:56, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
:You are quite welcome :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 20:23, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

== Ersatz monarch ==

As I don't remember the real template, your nom has some problems with it at [[T:TDYK#Ersatz Monarch class battleship]]. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 22:33, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
:I have no clue as to what another hook can be...--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:43, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
::I have done the usual copyediting. Here's your first spelling lesson:
*equipped is spelled E-Q-U-I-P-P-E-D.
::This word is probably your most frequently misspelled word. Hope this helps. :) ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) 23:53, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Thanks. And Now, what else is there to do? Is it ready for a GAN?--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 23:54, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Your message ==

The message you linked to is now 8 days old and is amongst the edits reported to ANI by Malke earlier today.  That report was listed as resolved.  I have already had two conversations with two administrators in regard to all this, neither of whom chose to block me.  Since you have decided to involve yourself in this matter, for no reason whatsoever, I can only suggest that you carry on in the manner you think is best, as shall I.  Thank you for your message. ---<span style="font-family:Georgia;">'''[[User:RepublicanJacobite|<span style="color:#009900">RepublicanJacobite</span>]]'''<sub>''[[User talk:RepublicanJacobite|<span style="color:#006600">The'FortyFive'</span>]]''</sub></span> 02:02, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== RepublicanJacobites ==

I did report him to AN/I but the admin said I was forum shopping and marked the complaint resolved.  See my talk page.[[User talk:Malke 2010|<span style="color:green;">Malke</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Malke 2010|<span style="color:#0000FF;">2010</span>]] 02:02, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yes I know.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 02:04, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
::He removed all your comments from his talk page.[[User talk:Malke 2010|<span style="color:green;">Malke</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Malke 2010|<span style="color:#0000FF;">2010</span>]] 02:59, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I know. Oh well, I tired...--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 10:34, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Don't bother with him anymore.  He's got admins to protect him.  If that's what wikipedia has become, so be it.[[User talk:Malke 2010|<span style="color:green;">Malke</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Malke 2010|<span style="color:#0000FF;">2010</span>]] 12:22, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::I was trying to look at my block log but it doesn't come up.  Can you find it for me and make a diff?  Thanks.[[User talk:Malke 2010|<span style="color:green;">Malke</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Malke 2010|<span style="color:#0000FF;">2010</span>]] 13:20, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Your block log is [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Malke_2010 here]. From a cursory glance, it seems to me that the block was harsh, but not improper. My best advice (as an entirely uninvolved admin) would be to drop it, move on and find something more rewarding to do- the longer you dwell on it, the less happy you'll be here. you'll be much happier if you just go and revert some vandalism or write an article. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Teal; font-family:Tahoma;">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman;">Penny for your thoughts? </span>]]  13:37, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks.  When I checked it, nothing came back.  Don't know why.[[User talk:Malke 2010|<span style="color:green;">Malke</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Malke 2010|<span style="color:#0000FF;">2010</span>]] 19:42, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Austro Hungary battleship list.  ==

I was gonna complain, but, on second thought, my draft is smaller than this. It's got a better lead, but nothing else. and plese, leave the Erzherzog Karls for me (not like as if you did anything to them, but this immense workload of yours is outsourcing my fairclaim to the GT. And, well, [[WP:OWN]] states that you could have done wht you did, so no biggie. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 01:00, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:Can I see your draft? And I'll leave you the Tegethoffs and the Karl's for you to promote. Try to get the class articles to GA in the next few days if you can :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:16, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:I pasted in the lead. The rest was the same as the stuff in yours. I'd like to get to work on the Karl's and Tegetthoff's, but [[User:Buggie111/ Russian battleship Sevastopol (1895)]] is yelling at me to finish it. I think that I should chceck over Sturm's comments on my talk, then go on from there. You'll have to do the reviews though, as, by my estimates, they will be reviewed somwhere in mid-June. You'll get credit for them, same if you do all of the work on [[SMS Erzherzog Franz Ferdinand]] for it's FAC and [[SM UB-50]] for it's GAN, while notifying the reviewers that I won't be on. Thanks in advance. <small>And don't launch the Sevastopol. I'm waiting for Sturm to get me a ref, and I'd like to fix the probs listed in the GAC/FAC myself. And, come to think of it, we need to get [[Kriegsmarine]] done.</small> [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 01:21, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:Too many things at once! First things first, I need to finish my [[User:White Shadows/List of battleships of Austria-Hungary]] (Which will take me as much time as it will take you to get your assignment done) and you need to get the Tegetthoff class and Karl class to GA before you leave (At least get one done) Erstaz Monarch will pass it's GAN I'm sure so that will leave us the ships from the two classes as well as the list. Can you get to work on those in the next few days? Thanks.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:27, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

== Friends with RJ ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=363483376 Your comment] about the blocking admin<u>'''s'''</u> being friends with RJ is unfounded and out of line.  I'm not talking about Gwen here, I'm talking about me.

I never stepped in to the mess between RJ and Malke as it had been dealt with by the time I came along. Both parties were in degrees wrong there and both were dealt with, albeit not symmetrically, but that's how it goes sometimes.  My block of Malke was at best tangentially related to the RJ/Malke interaction.  Anyone with [[WP:AXE|an axe to grind]], as Malke did, will quickly find themselves in trouble here on Wikipedia.

More to the point, I don't remember many interactions between me and RJ, and I don't remember any being especially positive.  In short, s/he is not a friend of mine, nor are any of the partisans on [[Talk:Michael Collins (Irish leader)]]. In fact, I have previously blocked some of those opposing Malke there.

You would do well to retract your statement about the blocking admin<u>'''s'''</u>.

[[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 13:13, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:I have no axe to grind. As you can see, I'm here to write, not to make enemies. With that in mind, I'll remove the comment. I was just assumeing and you know know very well what that does to you and me.....--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 14:23, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks. Cheers. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 14:54, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:::you are welcome. Sorry for assumeing bad faith on my part.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 15:06, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

== Any refs for the Karls? ==

I'm currently finishing my draft on them, and I plan to send them to DYK. The problem is that I have nearly 4000 characters left. I plan to fill the armament section with indetail stuff about the guns <small>SEe [[French battleship Massena]] and [[Brazilian battleship Riachuelo]] for examples</small>, but I don't know if that will be enough. Could you check your references and maybe look it over once I submit my draft. If you get it into the necesary size, you'll get cco-credit for all of the ships (I plan to do a four hook). [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 14:42, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'll see what I can do. Thanks for getting on the ball as I'm in the middle or writeing the Karl section of my list of BB's of AH. Just submit it and I'll take a look :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 14:45, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
::Wait about half an hour. Finding the info for those things on nvweaps is kind of hard. I suggest you do the Radetzkys in your list right now, the Karl in half an hour. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 14:46, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:::OK, I'll skip over them and continue. I hope to get this list finished by the end of the week.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 14:48, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I've left off at nearly 6000 charcters. Your'e gonna have to write 1637 more to get it to qualify. Good luck, and I'll try to check Google Books for somthing along with Cityofart. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 15:28, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::946 left, after my ships edit. I think describing the fact that they were built at STT, etc would fill it. I'll get to work on the ships of the class. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 15:37, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::sorry for waiting so long. I'll sdd in stuff now....--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 21:01, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::All done now. It should be ready for a DYK if my DYK check is correct. Any good hooks? How about ...that the lead ship of the '''[[Erzherzog Karl class battleship]]s''', [[SMS Erzherzog Karl]] sunk on her voyage to Britain following World War I?--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 21:36, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I've already submitted. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 21:57, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Can I get minor credit for the main class. I got it above the needed number for that one....--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 21:59, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

== [[Talk:German submarine U-40 (1938)/GA1]] ==

Hi, I have reviewed your GA nomination at [[Talk:German submarine U-40 (1938)/GA1]] and made a few comments. Thanks, [[User:Xtzou|<b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b>]] ''([[User talk:Xtzou|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]])'' 20:34, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

== [[WP:01C|01C]] ==

[[Image:Black check.svg|left|40px]] Thank'ee much for joining! Your request has been approved and you are now a proud member of Wikipedia's only counter-vandalism cabal! Want a [[User:21655/.01 Cabal/UBX|userbox]] to go along with it? (Also, we've got an InvisionFree board; check the cabal page.) <span style="color:#000000;">'''[[User:21655|<span style="color:#000000;">21655</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:21655|<span style="color:#000000;">ταλκ</span>]]/[[WP:01C|<span style="color:#000000;">01ҁ</span>]]</sup></span> 00:16, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:Sweet. I'm member number 42!--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 00:21, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

== History merge ==

Is there a reason I can't just move the page to [[List of battleships of Austria-Hungary]]?  [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 04:06, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:Sorry for not makeing that clear, that was the page that I wanted you to move it to. Right now it's a redirect so I cannot without messing up the history of the page....--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 13:16, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::It looks like it's been taken care of.  Sorry I misunderstood. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 14:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::no problem, thanks for trying to help :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 16:14, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

== Needing Some Help ==

Hey, White Shadows. Mountain Girl and I need some help. By the way, Mountain Girl is one of my friends who has joined Wikipedia recently. We would like to write an article together about our school, Eagle County Charter Academy. Since we have never done an article before, we really don't know what to do. If you could help us in any way, that would be GREAT. Thank you, :)[[User:CamrynRocks!|CamrynRocks!]] ([[User talk:CamrynRocks!|talk]]) 15:56, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:Ok well you've got what you want to write about down. Now the next thing that you will want to do is to get some sources. If your school has a website that would be great. Take a look at [[Eastern View High School]] for instance (Yes I attend that school) you can base your new article off of that one. And since you'll likely be working on it in stages try to make a sandbox about it first like [[User:CamrynRocks!/Eagle County Charter Academy]]. Once you are done writeing it, just ask Wehwalt to move it to the actual article itself which would be titled [[Eagle County Charter Academy]]. If you still need help, just ask me or Wehwalt :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 16:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, you guys could move it yourselves after four days and ten edits. I think you've already been welccomed, but I suggest reading [[WP:COI]] a bit.And remember, no citing Facebook or blogs. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 16:31, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

== U-450 ==

I've decided to model it after U-40 for a posibble GAN. You and NSD will get credit, and you should be on call to fix any problems (if you stay at home during the summer). [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 16:28, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'll be available during most of the summer. I will however be totaly gone for about 2-3 weeks in June (From the 18th ot about the end of the month) and I'll also be gone in late July for a trip to Canada. Other than that, I'll be on every day (hopefully). I do however have to read three books and write some papers for a summer assignment....--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 16:32, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::I can't seem to find an image of a VIIC sub. Could you go and check while I prozeify the stuff in the [[German Type VII submarine]] article <small>Or somthing like that</small>. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 16:36, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I've added in an image and I'm working on the construction and design section right now.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 16:41, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I '''''was''''' too. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 16:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Done. <small>My bad</small>--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 16:46, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::::You did a good job at compacting it. I just pasated in the text from U-40 and made the changes. GAN? [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 16:48, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Absloutely not. You still need more than 1 source and you need to add in the inforbox about the general characteristics. Right now, it's still a stub IMHO.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 16:49, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

== Hey, White Shadows ==

I am so very bored! Please, could you just talk to me, or something? My mom is mowing the lawn, and my little sister is reading to my grandmother. There's nothing to do AT ALL!!!! I want to edit an article, but i really can't find anything. Maybe i just don't know enough about the subjects. AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![[User:CamrynRocks!|CamrynRocks!]] ([[User talk:CamrynRocks!|talk]]) 17:39, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:Ive got an idea. Click the random article button and see what comes up. (You'll never see the same thing more than once) You can also edit some of the things that you find as well. It's pretty fun IMHO.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 17:41, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

== Turkish battleships ==

I'm so picky. Since I created Reshadieh, could I have the joy of expanding that one? I know I have several references, HMS Erin has more, and so does the web <small> I've rescued Hazegray, see [http://web.archive.org/web/20080409230626/http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/battleships/othr_dr.htm]</small>. You can take Abdul, and I might help out on the list for Reshadieh, and maybe PArsec could do Goeben. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 00:54, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::I don't want any of them I just call the list. (anyone is free to help though considering that I don't own what I write)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 00:57, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Ok then. Off I go. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 00:59, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:Ok then :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:03, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== I DID IT!!! I STARTED AN ARTICLE! i think ==

Guess what? Guess what? Wait no, don't guess, i'll tell you. Buggie111 started an infobox for me on Eagle County Charter Academy. I can only edit the info box though. Why is that? Can you help me actually start an article, not just the info box? But i did something at least, something![[User:CamrynRocks!|CamrynRocks!]] ([[User talk:CamrynRocks!|talk]]) 16:10, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'm leaving now, but I'll get back to it and hash out a draft. Judging by the calendar on your school website, you'll have school until Friday, so ask your librarian for information on your school. And I've answerd at the Civil WAr talkpage. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 17:00, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::Good job and to edit past the infobox, just scroll past the infobox and type stuff under the end of it.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:07, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== What are you doing!? ==
{{trout}}
This is my alternate account... [[User:The sock that should not be|The sock that should not be]] ([[User talk:The sock that should not be|talk]]) 23:04, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::Replied at your talk page :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 23:06, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::{{ec}} {{tps}} Seriously, did you read the note? ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) 23:07, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::I saw it on my watchlist and noticed that it was not The thing but an account with a name similar to it. I though he was an imposter. So sorry!--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 23:09, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== sad news ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ninjalemming].[[User talk:Malke 2010|<span style="color:green;">Malke</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Malke 2010|<span style="color:#0000FF;">2010</span>]] 18:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:Well at least Jade made an Edit! I do feel sad and I hope he's ok. Hopefully he gets his memory back soon :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 22:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
::I got an email back from him just a while ago.  He's on the mend.[[User talk:Malke 2010|<span style="color:green;">Malke</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Malke 2010|<span style="color:#0000FF;">2010</span>]] 01:55, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:::What does that mean? Does Ninjalemming remember us at all?--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:57, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, his memory is coming back.  At first he didn't remember anything about wiki, but then it started coming back.  I was really worried until he got back to me.  He was in the hospital but now he's home.[[User talk:Malke 2010|<span style="color:green;">Malke</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Malke 2010|<span style="color:#0000FF;">2010</span>]] 02:01, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::That's great! I'm going to bed now so tell him that I hope he's feeling better :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 02:09, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

== Erzherzog Karl and Tegetthoff GA's ==

I have put all of them at GAN. Be prepared for a repeat of the Habsburg reviews. Should be no problem. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 02:15, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:Great. I'll just take credit for the ones that I worked on though.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 10:19, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

== FRancesco Cariaccolo ==

Thanks for redirecting that. I had a draft in progress to dyk it but was nowhere near done. You can work on it if you want, as my sources already are expended with its current info state. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 00:42, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
:No problem.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 00:43, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

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== Caio Duilo ==

So that means I can have another one of your articles? The count would be, say Impero, Napoli, and (as of now) Caio Duilo, for a Margherita, the elena and Sardagena (the heck with [[WP:OWN]]). Re Umberto is next.<small>You can do them over my vacation, but '''''please''''' leave Leonardo. I want it as an April Fools hook</small> [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 13:39, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
:On the other hand, hash that. I th'ink I've got refs. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 14:20, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

==DYK for List of battleships of Austria-Hungary==
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|text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions#May 27 2010|May 27, 2010]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[List of battleships of Austria-Hungary]]''''', which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>([[User:Rjanag/Pageview stats|here's how]], [http://stats.grok.se/en/201005/List_of_battleships_of_Austria-Hungary quick check] )</small> and add it to [[WP:DYKSTATS|DYKSTATS]] if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know? talk page]].
}}  [[WP:Did you know|The DYK project]] ([[T:TDYK|nominate]]) 18:02, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

== Hallo! ==

Why hallo thar! I are good friend and a troll of [[UseR:User talk:The Thing That Should Not Be]]. I left him something because is awesome! Tsk tsk, bad bad boy, you shouldn't have reverted! :) Don't worry, it's ok. :P  --[[User:Fail|Fail]] ([[User talk:Fail|talk]]) 01:41, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:Sorry but [[WP:TROLL|trolls]] are not allowed nor welcome here. Please stop messing with his page.--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 01:49, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::But i <3 him! (A Lot!) We're good friends actually :) --[[User:Fail|Fail]] ([[User talk:Fail|talk]]) 02:41, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:::{{tps}} Fail, what happened to your sig? ~[[User:NSD|'''<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color:green; font-family:trebuchet ms">Nerdy<span style="color:#0F0">Science</span><span style="color:#8d7">Dude</span></span>''']] ([[User:NSD/t|✉]] • [[Special:Contributions/NerdyScienceDude|✐]]) 02:50, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::::It used to be awesome, it got fail. --[[User:Fail|Fail]] ([[User talk:Fail|talk]]) 17:45, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

== check in the mail ==

email for you.  Also, what's up with the trout?[[User talk:Malke 2010|<span style="color:green;">Malke</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Malke 2010|<span style="color:#0000FF;">2010</span>]] 05:02, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:I made a big mistake...I'll check it now :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 17:23, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

== ERzherzog British spelling ==

PLease change the speling! I can't. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 18:12, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not British so I cannot spell in BE :(--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 18:33, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

== Titan's cross ==

Replied on [[WT:OMT]]. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 22:08, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

== U-1023 ==

I've found another hook. [[User:Buggie111|Buggie111]] ([[User talk:Buggie111|talk]]) 03:42, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Pac Man? ==

[[File:PacmanAwesome.svg|thumb|right|100px|Om nom nom nom]]
I gotta hand it to you - [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_adminship%2FIpfreely555&action=historysubmit&diff=365262715&oldid=365262439 That] was epic XD -<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">'''[[User:Fastily|<span style="color:#4B0082;"><big>F</big><small>ASTILY</small></span>]]''' <sup><small>[[User talk:Fastily|<span style="color:#4B0082;">(T<small>ALK</small>)</span>]]</small></sup></span> 18:37, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:Well it was true. Just trying to help him out in a humorus way :)--[[user:White Shadows|<span style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<span style="color:#DC143C">'''you're breaking up'''</span>]]</sup> 18:38, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

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