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== Thanks for your note ==

I've asked the user about unblocking his account [[User_talk:RobertDavidSteeleVivas#Request_for_unblocking|here]].  Given the history of this user, I'm not sure I want to divulge my email address to him.  [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 19:26, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
:[[WP:NOTTHEM]] appears to be too much. :) [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 21:57, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
::It seems that way. Thank you for looking into this.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 22:52, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

== Primary Maps ==

I am not sure what the procedure is in this project for discussing global-type changes to pages. Specifically, I was looking at the Primary pages (e.g. [[Democratic Party presidential primaries, 1976]]) and the maps used to show the results. I appreciate the effort put into creating them by the user who did so, but personally I find them hard to view since the colors selected are very hard to distinguish from each other. I added a section to [[Talk:Democratic Party presidential primaries, 1976#map colors]] to show a suggested change to this particular map which was especially hard to view for me. Can you provide some guidance on how we can proceed on discussing this on the project? Thanks.

I will add myself as a member, but have made no edits in this project yet.
[[User:Censorwolf|Censorwolf]] ([[User talk:Censorwolf|talk]]) 01:55, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
::Click [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_United_States_presidential_elections&action=edit&section=new here] to add a new section to the project talk page.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 00:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

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== Military Historian of the Year ==

Nominations for the "[[WP:MHAWARDS#"Military historian of the Year"|Military Historian of the Year]]" for 2011 are now open. If you would like to nominate an editor for this award, please do so '''[[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Nominations for military historian of the year for 2011 now open!|here]]'''. Voting will open on 22 January and run for seven days. Thanks! On behalf of the [[WP:MHCOORD|coordinators]], [[User:Nick-D|Nick-D]] ([[User talk:Nick-D|talk]]) and [[User:The ed17|Ed]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:The ed17|[talk]]] [[WP:OMT|[majestic titan]]]</sup> 00:30, 16 January 2012 (UTC) <small>You were sent this message because you are a listed as a [[WP:MHMEMBERS|member]] of the [[WP:MILHIST|Military history WikiProject]].</small>
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==January 2012 Newsletter for [[Wikipedia:WikiProject United States|WikiProject United States]] and supported projects==
{{Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/Newsletter/Newsletter link|January 2012}}--[[User:Kumi-Taskbot|Kumi-Taskbot]] ([[User talk:Kumi-Taskbot|talk]]) 18:20, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
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== WikiCup 2012 January newsletter ==

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WikiCup 2012 is off to a flying start. At the time of writing, we have 112 contestants; comparable to last year, but slightly fewer than 2010. [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/2012 signups|Signups]] will remain open for another week, after which time they will be closed for this year. Our currrent far-away leader is {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grapple X}}, due mostly to his work on a slew of good articles about ''[[The X-Files]]''; there remain many such articles waiting to be reviewed at [[WP:GAC|good article candidates]]. Second place is currently held by {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Ruby2010}}, whose points come mostly from good articles about television episodes, although good article reviews, did you knows and an article about a baroness round out the score. In third place is {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Jivesh boodhun}}, who has scored 200 points for his work on a single featured article, as well as points for work on others, mostly in the area of pop music. In all, nine users have 100 or more points. However, at the other end of the scale, there are still dozens of participants who are yet to score. Please remember to update your submission pages promptly!

The 64 highest scoring participants will advance to round 2 in a month's time. There, they will be split into eight random groups of eight. The score needed to reach the next round is not at all clear; last year, 8 points guaranteed a place. The year before, 20.

A few participants and their work warrant a mention for achieving "firsts" in this competition.
*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|12george1}} was the first to score, with his good article review of ''[[Illinois v. McArthur]]''.
*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|12george1}} was also the first to score points for an article, thanks to his work on [[Hurricane Debby (1982)]]- now a good article. Tropical storms have featured heavily in the Cup, and good articles currently have a relatively fast turnaround time for reviews.
*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Sp33dyphil}} was the first to score points for a did you know, with [[Russian submarine K-114 Tula|Russian submarine K-114 ''Tula'']]. Military history is another subject which has seen a lot of Cup activity.
*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Sp33dyphil}} is also the first person to successfully claim bonus points. ''[[Terminator 2: Judgment Day]]'' is now a good article, and was eligible for bonus points because the subject was covered on more than 20 other Wikipedias at the start of the competition. It is fantastic to see bonus points being claimed so early!
*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Speciate}} was the first to score points for an In the News entry, with ''[[Paedophryne amauensis]]''. The lead image from the article was also used on the main page for a time, and it's certainly eye-catching!
*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Jivesh boodhun}} was the first to score points for a featured article, and is, at the moment, the only competitor to claim for one. The article, [[Halo (Beyoncé Knowles song)|"Halo" (Beyoncé Knowles song)]], was also worth double points because of its wide coverage. While this is an article that Jivesh and others have worked on for some time, it is undeniable that he has put considerable work into it this year, pushing it over the edge.

We are yet to see any featured lists, featured topics or good topics, but this is unsurprising; firstly, the nomination processes with each of these can take some time, and, secondly, it can take a considerable amount of time to work content to this level. In a similar vein, we have seen only one featured article. The requirement that content must have been worked on this year to be eligible means that we did not expect to see these at the start of the competition. No points have been claimed for featured portals or pictures, but these are not content types which are often claimed; the former has never made a big impact on the WikiCup, while the latter has not done so since 2009's competition.

A quick rules clarification before the regular notices: If you are concerned that another user is claiming points inappropriately, please contact a judge to take a look at the article. Competitors policing one another can create a bad atmosphere, and may lead to inconsistencies and mistakes. Rest assured that we, the judges, ''are'' making an effort to check submissions, but it is possible that we will miss something. On a loosely related note: If you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews]]. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup]] and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send]].</small> [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] and [[User:The ed17|The ed17]] 00:22, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
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==what the HELL is going on here?==
I DID indeed put sources on the Jim Rogers stuff and you know it. !!!!
:Where is the source that he is running for president as a Democrat?--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 19:14, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
::Well, there's [http://newsok.com/oklahomas-presidential-primary-set-for-march-6/article/3643439 this, ] and [http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=336&articleid=20120122_16_A10_ByWAYN167812 here. ] why do you believe I would make this stuff up?[[User:Ericl|Ericl]] ([[User talk:Ericl|talk]])
:::These sources must be provided in the article. However, Rogers can only be added if he has a wikipedia article. If you feel he is a notable individual then create a wiki page for him and see if it survives.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 19:24, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Then what about the [[United States Senate election in Oklahoma, 2010|2010 Oklahoma US Senate Race]]? he's all over the place in that, so should we remove the article?[[User:Ericl|Ericl]] ([[User talk:Ericl|talk]]) 19:38, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::That has nothing to do with this.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 20:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

== Proposed merge involving Republican Primary articles ==

[[Image:Information.svg|25px]] An article that you have been involved in editing, [[Republican Party presidential candidates, 2012]], has been proposed for a merge with [[Republican Party presidential primaries, 2012]]. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going [[Talk:Republican Party presidential primaries, 2012#Merger proposal |here]], and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. [[User:Jack Bornholm|Jack Bornholm]] ([[User talk:Jack Bornholm|talk]]) 16:52, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

== WikiCup 2012 February newsletter ==

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Round 1 is already over! The 64 highest scorers have progressed to round 2. Our highest scorer was {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grapple X}}, again thanks mostly to a swathe of good articles on ''The X-Files''. In second place was {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Tigerboy1966}}, thanks an impressive list of did you knows about racehorses. Both scored over 400 points. Following behind with over 300 points were {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Ruby2010}}, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Cwmhiraeth}}, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Miyagawa}} and {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Casliber}}. February also saw the competition's first featured list: [[List of colleges and universities in North Dakota]], from {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Ruby2010}}. At the other end of the scale, 11 points was enough to secure a place in this round, and some contestants with 10 points made it into the round on a tiebreaker. This is higher than the 8 points that were needed last year, but lower than the 20 points required the year before. The number of points required to progress to round 3 will be significantly higher.

The remaining contestants have been split into 8 pools of 8, named A through H. Round two will finish in two months time on 28 April, when the two highest scorers in each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers, will progress to round 3. The pools were entirely random, so while some pools may end up being more competitive than others, this is by chance rather than design.

The judges would like to point out two quick rules reminders. First, any content promoted during the interim period (that is, on or after 27 February) is eligible for points in round 2. Second, any content worked on significantly this ''year'' is eligible for points if promoted in this ''round''. On a related note, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews]]. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which would otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup]] and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send]].</small> [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Emailuser/J Milburn|email]]) and [[User:The ed17|The ed17]] ([[User talk:The ed17|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Emailuser/The ed17|email]]) 00:12, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
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== Thanks for sorting out Terry Jones (pastor) ==

I just took the rare peek at my watchlist. I'm glad this finally got sorted -- [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Terry_Jones_%28pastor%29&diff=461028558&oldid=460338917]. Cheers! -- [[User:Kendrick7|Kendrick7]]<sup>[[User_talk:Kendrick7|talk]]</sup> 02:04, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
:Glad to see you on here.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 07:05, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

== WikiCup 2012 March newsletter ==

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We are over half way through the second round of this year's WikiCup and things are going well! {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grapple X}}, of Pool B, is our highest overall scorer thanks to his prolific writings on television and film. In second place is Pool H's {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Cwmhiraeth}}, thanks primarily to work on biological articles, especially in [[marine biology]] and [[herpetology]]. Third place goes to Pool E's {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Casliber}}, who also writes primarily on biology (including [[ornithology]] and [[botany]]) and has already submitted two featured articles this round. Of the 63 contestants remaining, 15 (just under a quarter) have over 100 points this round. However, 25 are yet to score. Please remember to update your submission pages promptly. 32 contestants, the top two from each pool and the 16 next-highest scorers, will advance to round 3.

Congratulations to {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Matthewedwards}}, whose impressive [[:File:Wacht am Rhein map (Opaque).svg]] became the competition's first featured picture. Also, congratulations to {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|12george1}}, who claimed good topic points, our first contestant this year to do so, for his work on [[Wikipedia:Featured topics/1982 Atlantic hurricane season]]. This leaves featured topics and featured portals as the only sources of points not yet utilised. However, as [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup#WikiCup Records|recent statistics]] from {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Miyagawa}} show, no source has yet been utilised this competition to the same extent it has been previously!

It has been observed that the backlogs at good article candidates are building up again. While the points for good article reviews will be remaining constant, any help that can be offered keeping the backlog down would be appreciated. On a related note, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews]]. As ever, questions are welcome on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup]] and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send]].</small> [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Emailuser/J Milburn|email]]) and [[User:The ed17|The ed17]] ([[User talk:The ed17|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Emailuser/The ed17|email]]) 23:31, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
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== [[Thaddeus McCotter presidential campaign, 2012]] passed GA review ==

Congratulations! Quite an interesting article. The review is at [[Talk:Thaddeus McCotter presidential campaign, 2012/GA1]]. Feel free to revert my edits.  Best wishes, [[User:MathewTownsend|MathewTownsend]] ([[User talk:MathewTownsend|talk]]) 22:57, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
:Thank you for the review.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 17:10, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

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== Re: Keith Russell Judd ==

Re [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gogo_Dodo&diff=487129875&oldid=487129579 your message]: I have restored the article.  Fastily has indeed gone on a break.  If you need another article restored in the future and the deleting admin is not available, you can ask for a undelete at [[WP:REFUND]]. -- [[User:Gogo Dodo|Gogo Dodo]] ([[User talk:Gogo Dodo|talk]]) 06:52, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== WikiCup 2012 April newsletter ==

Round 2 of this year's WikiCup is over, and so we are down to our final 32, in what could be called our quarter-finals. The two highest scorers from each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers overall, have entered round 3, while 30 participants have been eliminated. Pool B's {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grapple X}} remains our top scorer with over 700 points; he continues to gain high numbers of points for his good articles on ''[[The X-Files]]'', but also ''[[Millennium (TV series)|Millennium]]'' and other subjects. He has also gained points for a good topic, a featured list, multiple good article reviews and several did you knows. Pool E's {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Casliber}} was second, thanks primarily to his biology articles, with Pool H's {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Muboshgu}} coming in third, with an impressive 46 did you knows, mostly on the subject of baseball. Casliber and Cwmhiraeth both scored over 600 points. Pools E and H proved our most successful, with each seeing 5 members qualify for round 3, while Pools C and D were the least, with each seeing only 3 reach round 3. However, it was Pool G which saw the lowest scoring, with a little under 400 points combined; Pool H, the highest scoring group, saw over triple that score.

65 points was the lowest qualifying score for round 3; significantly higher than the 11 required to enter round 2, and also higher than the 41 required to reach round 3 last year. However, in 2010, 100 points were needed to secure a place in round 3. 16 will progress to round 4. In round 3, 150 points was the 16th highest score, though, statistically, people tend to up their game a little in later rounds. Last year, 76 points secured a place, while in 2010, a massive 250 points were needed. Guessing how many points will be required is not easy. We still have not seen any featured portals or topics this year, but, on the subject of less common content types, a small correction needs to be made to the previous newsletter: [[:File:Wacht am Rhein map (Opaque).svg]], our first featured picture, was the work of ''both'' {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Matthewedwards}} ''and'' {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grandiose}}, the latter of whom has also gone on to score with [[:File:Map of the Battle of Guam, 1944.svg]]. Bonus points also continue to roll in; this round, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Ealdgyth}} earned triple points for her good articles on [[William the Conqueror]] and the [[Middle Ages]], Casliber and Cwmhiraeth both earned triple points for their work on [[Western Jackdaw]], now a good article, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Dana boomer}} earned triple points for her work on [[lettuce]] and work by {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Stone}} to ready [[antimony]] for good article status earned him triple points. {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Jarry1250}} managed to expand [[Vitus Bering]] far enough for a did you know, which was also worth triple points. All of these highly important topics featured on 50 or more Wikipedias at the start of the year. 

An article on the WikiCup in the Wikimedia Blog, "[http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/04/30/improving-wikipedia-with-friendly-competition/ Improving Wikipedia with friendly competition]", was posted at the end of April. This may be of interest to those who are signed up to this newsletter, as well as serving as another way to draw attention to our project. Also, we would again like to thank {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Jarry1250}} and {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Stone}}, for continued help behind the scenes. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews]]. Questions are welcome on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup]] and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send]].</small> [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Emailuser/J Milburn|email]]) and [[User:The ed17|The ed17]] ([[User talk:The ed17|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Emailuser/The ed17|email]]) 23:25, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
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== WikiProject United States presidential elections (Ariostos) ==

:I would happy to join, but I am not sure how to add myself into that list. I am assuming I need to be confirmed, or something along those lines? --[[User:Ariostos|Ariostos]] ([[User talk:Ariostos|talk]]) 19:12, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

:Took a second to figure out that it would not appear in the Page Edit, but only in the Paragraph Edit. Anyway I'm in there now. Out of curiosity are the Republican Primary pages linked up? It just seemed to me that some of then may have been, but very loosely. At the very least some of their catergorizations seemed off. --[[User:Ariostos|Ariostos]] ([[User talk:Ariostos|talk]]) 19:20, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
::Different editors edited the different state pages so the styles likely don't match perfectly. It would be beneficial to make them uniform.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 19:27, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

== For shame! ==

Prodding [[Keith Russell Judd]]? He is shaping up to be a great statesman. :) Ah, just an excuse to say hi, good to see you around. -- [[User:Kendrick7|Kendrick7]]<sup>[[User_talk:Kendrick7|talk]]</sup> 03:42, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Ah never mind me, I see above that you had already redeemed yourself[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gogo_Dodo&diff=487129875&oldid=487129579] -- [[User:Kendrick7|Kendrick7]]<sup>[[User_talk:Kendrick7|talk]]</sup> 03:43, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
::Good foresight on my part, wasn't it? --[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 20:09, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

== Thanks for your support ==

Hey, William, thanks for coming to [[User talk:Jauerback#Terrible decision|my defense]] after the [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:67.134.35.66 vandalizing Barack Obama presidential campaign, 2012|unjust block]] I was given (and had overturned). Much appreciation for the support.--[[User:JayJasper|JayJasper]] ([[User talk:JayJasper|talk]]) 23:41, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:No problem.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 00:12, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
== [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion|Nomination for deletion]] of [[Template:WikiProject United States presidential elections/editintro]] ==
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== WikiCup 2012 May newsletter ==

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We're halfway through round 3 (or the quarter finals, if you prefer) and things are running smoothly. We're seeing very high scoring; as of the time of writing, the top 16 all have over 90 points. This has already proved to be more competative than this time last year- in 2011, 76 points secured a place, while in 2010, a massive 250 was the lowest qualifying score. People have also upped their game slightly from last round, which is to be expected as we approach the end of the competition. Leading Pool A is {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Cwmhiraeth}}, whose points have mostly come from a large number of did you knows on marine biology. Pool B's leader, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grapple X}}, is for the first time not our highest scorer at the time of newsletter publication, but his good articles on ''The X-Files'' and ''Millenium'' keep him in second place overall. {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Miyagawa}} leads Pool C, our quietest pool, with content in a variety of areas on a variety of topics. Pool D is led by {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Casliber}}, our current overall leader. Nearly half of Casliber's points come from his triple-scored [[Western Jackdaw]], which is now a featured article.

This round has seen an unusually high number of featured lists, with nearly one in five remaining participants claiming one, and one user, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Muboshgu}}, claiming two. Miyagawa's featured list, [[1936 Summer Olympics medal table]], was even awarded double points. By comparison, good article reviews seem to be playing a smaller part, and featured topics portals remain two content-types still unutilised in this competition. Other than that, there isn't much to say! Things are coming along smoothly. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews]]. Questions are welcome on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup]], and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send]].</small> [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]] • [[Special:Emailuser/J Milburn|email]]) and [[User:The ed17|The ed17]] ([[User talk:The ed17|talk]] • [[Special:Emailuser/The ed17|email]]) 23:50, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
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== Bob Ely at DYK ==


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== Wanted to comment ==

I just wanted to comment that, looking at his [http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Viriditas talk page] over there, it's quite clear that it's just attack after attack being directed at him by Brian McNeil. It does give the impression that Wikinews is a very unwelcoming community that no one should join (perhaps why no one is?). [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 19:34, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
:Apparently you're not looking at it objectively since he was welcomed twice and explained the process before he decided to start attacking other editors. If you have a problem with Brian McNeil's reaction under fire then take that up with him, I don't speak for him.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 19:41, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
:Why don't you look at [http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Occupy_group_ends_Monsanto_protest_on_Maui#Review_of_revision_1387648_.5BNot_ready.5D Viriditas's reaction] to a review? Is this acceptable?--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 19:43, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
::The issue is that McNeil's first comment to him included untoward, insinuating remarks. Along with every comment he made afterwards. As for the review, I see an amount of frustration and i'm certainly confused why he took it so personally, but none of the comments are that bad at all in comparison to the McNeil thing. His worst response is the one in reply to the "POV intent" insinuation, which was also uncivil in the first place. Since you're a WIkinews person, can you explain to me why Viriditas was banned for civility violation, while McNeil was not, when the latter made far worse remarks? [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 20:39, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Honestly I don't see anything wrong with McNeil's first comments there. Understandably, he gets angry once Viriditas starts attacking Pizero. In fact, McNeil actually reduced the [http://en.wikinews.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3AViriditas initial block] to give Viriditas a second chance, but he continued to be disruptive. The ultimate ban was not for incivility but for incompetence and disruption--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 21:03, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
::::I don't want to bother with going through each of McNeil's comments and pointing out the issues with them because, as you said, you aren't McNeil, so there's no real point. Let me just say that that sort of response from him kinda makes me never want to be a part of Wikinews. And that must be true for others as well, considering how Wikinews has dwindled to pretty much 5 people involved and that's it. [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 21:21, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::You're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree. The first editor that most new users come in contact with is Pizero, who is very patient with reviews and does excellent work on them. However, if an editor is too thin-skinned to take simple advice on how the site works and decides to go on with the mindset that everyone is out to get them, then they lack the propensity to be constructive on the site. Wikinews is much more peer-review-based than wikipedia, so I'm sure egos get hurt in the process. I would be weary to judge the experience of the site based on the rants of a banned user who refused to cooperate. Additionally, the number of editors there has naught to do with the quality of work and what the site offers; anyone that wants to be a citizen journalist and have their works published for the world to see on Google News, can do this just by joining the site, following the guidelines, and maintaining journalistic integrity. The problem is that not everyone can do that.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 21:50, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::One last comment. The issue isn't the difficulty of using Wikinews, in my opinion, but the community itself. While old, I think [http://en.wikinews.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Matthewedwards&diff=1038368&oldid=1033896 this] is the perfect example of what's wrong with Wikinews, along with the sad fact that it doesn't seem to have evolved or gotten any better since then. [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 00:27, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::::The community disapproved of the move and the user is no longer blocked. Again, if you have a problem with things that McNeil did, then speak to him about it.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 03:50, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::The problem is not so much McNeil as that everyone else in the community immediately agreed and went along with it without even questioning what was going on. One would think the minimum response would be to wait until the user in question is around to respond to the allegations. I know that's what we do here at least. [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 05:44, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::I've been blocked on wikipedia indefinitely twice; I know personally that that's not how it works here, or at least it didn't four years ago. Ultimately the wrong was righted here for me as it was for that particular user on wikinews. The difference is that I chose to stay. One bad experience should not deter anyone that truly believes in an organization's mission and potential. People make mistakes, but since anyone can edit, there's no reason to hold that instance against the organization itself. --[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 06:15, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think things are quite a bit different from four years ago. And, from what I can tell, the user did come back, though months later. Not sure if he is still active however. [[User:Silver seren|<span style="color:silver;">Silver</span>]][[User talk:Silver seren|<span style="color:blue;">seren</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Silver seren|C]]</sup> 06:20, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
==WikiCup 2012 June newsletter==
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''Apologies for the lateness of this letter; our usual bot wasn't working.'' We are now entering round 4, our semi-finals, and have our final 16. A score of 243 was required to reach this round; significantly more than 2011's 76 points, and only a little behind 2010's 250 points. By comparison, last year, 150 points in round 4 secured a place in the final; in 2010, 430 were needed. Commiserations to Pool A's {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Igordebraga}}, who scored 242 points, missing out on a place in the round by a whisker. However, congratulations to Pool B's {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grapple X}}, whose television articles have brought him another round victory. Pool A's {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Cwmhiraeth}} came second overall, with an impressive list of biological did you knows, good articles and featured articles. Third overall was Pool D's {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Muboshgu}}, with a long list of contibutions, mostly relating to baseball. Of course, with the points resetting every round, the playing field has been levelled. The most successful Pool was Pool D, which saw seven into the final round. Pool B saw four, C saw three and Pool A saw only the two round leaders.

A quick note about other competitions taking place on Wikipedia which may be of interest. There are 13 days remaining in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/GAN backlog elimination drives/June-July 2012|June-July GAN backlog elimination drive]], but it is not too late to take part. August will also see the return of [[Wikipedia:The Core Contest|The Core Contest]]- a one month long competition first run in 2007. While the WikiCup awards points for audited content on any subject, The Core Contest about is raw article improvement, focussing heavily on the most important articles on Wikipedia. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews]]. Questions are welcome on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup]], and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send]].</small> [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]] • [[Special:Emailuser/J Milburn|email]]) and [[User:The ed17|The ed17]] ([[User talk:The ed17|talk]] • [[Special:Emailuser/The ed17|email]]) 11:16, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

== [[WP:DE|Disruption]] at [[WP:RSN]] ==

By your own admission, consensus is against you.  Please accept this and move on.  Continuing to disrupt [[WP:RSN]] will lead to a suspension of your editing privileges.   [[User:A Quest For Knowledge|A Quest For Knowledge]] ([[User talk:A Quest For Knowledge|talk]]) 22:58, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
:It is not disruption is a request for discussion. The mob mentality on that page is troubling.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 23:00, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

::I'd prefer not to edit a closed discussion...and see no reason for it to be opened again. It's Village Pump territory if anything, but you'll get shot down there too I'm sure. 
::''It's not generated from a user; it's generated from a source itself.'' - My response to that is that we should quote the source itself. There is absolutely no reason to use WikiNews as a source. None. No reason. I wish I could think of more ways to say that there is no reason to use it as a source. USE THE ORIGINAL SOURCE. That may or not be an acceptable source, but that's a completely different argument. Give it up. This is an incredible waste of time for far too many people. --[[User:Onorem|Onorem]][[Special:Contributions/Onorem|♠]][[User talk:Onorem|Dil]] 23:42, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
:::You can't use e-mails, phone calls, etc. in an article.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 23:45, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::::And? --[[User:Onorem|Onorem]][[Special:Contributions/Onorem|♠]][[User talk:Onorem|Dil]] 23:46, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::"USE THE ORIGINAL SOURCE" is not applicable. This is just a continued misunderstanding of what is being discussed.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 23:47, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::But that's not a reason to call a source based on anon users approving anon users reliable. Congrats on your phone call. PROVE IT. --[[User:Onorem|Onorem]][[Special:Contributions/Onorem|♠]][[User talk:Onorem|Dil]] 23:50, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Everything that is done is easily verifiable and transparent because works are posted on talk pages as journalist notes and/or primary materials sent to scoop, which is reviewed by trusted users, not "anons". Scoop can easily compare to OTRS, and if material is challenged, it can easily be provided. But we're talking about non-contentious items, holes in articles.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 23:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Whatever. Enjoy banging your head against the wall. I'm out of here.  --[[User:Onorem|Onorem]][[Special:Contributions/Onorem|♠]][[User talk:Onorem|Dil]] 23:56, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::Typical response from a user that cannot defend the mob actions and so says "whatever" without disputing points.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 23:58, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Fine. I'm not out of here yet. What is a 'Trusted' user? I'm not wading through history to find the definition. Are 'Trusted' users given their position by known (actually known) users with a background in journalism or is there some other method of filtering out reliability? 'Trusted' users review phone calls that they haven't heard and emails they haven't seen and say they are good sources? 
::::::::::::"What is a 'Trusted' user?" A user that passed the accreditation process. As in my analogy, it is akin to an OTRS manager. "Are 'Trusted' users given their position by known (actually known) users with a background in journalism or is there some other method of filtering out reliability?" Irrelevant. There is no analysis, only reporting, so only an honest/ competent group of people is necessary to verify the accuracy of the facts reported. "'Trusted' users review phone calls that they haven't heard and emails they haven't seen and say they are good sources?" No. Everything can be viewed through the scoop e-mail which is available to all accredited reporters.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 00:34, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::''If material is challenged, it can easily be provided'' - How? And if it's so easily proven, why not use the proof as the source? --[[User:Onorem|Onorem]][[Special:Contributions/Onorem|♠]][[User talk:Onorem|Dil]] 00:06, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::Like I said, e-mails, phone calls, and other primary sources cannot be used as wikipedia sources.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 00:36, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::Side Note: My whatever is '''''my''''' comment. It's not proof of anything...so please feel free to shut the fuck up instead of using my one comment as commentary on the situation. You've made no new points. You've simply restated over and over and over and over arguing against pretty much everyone your position without accepting their position. This time, I am out of here. Have a happy fucking holiday. I've wasted far too much time here today. (I guess I need one last edit before you use my words against me again. Agreeing with the majority doesn't automatically mean mob mentality is in play. As much as you might not like it, sometimes the majority are actually correct...) --[[User:Onorem|Onorem]][[Special:Contributions/Onorem|♠]][[User talk:Onorem|Dil]] 00:24, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
When a debate seems particularly contentious, that is not a synonym for disruptive. The contention seems to have followed William to his talk page here. I know I never appreciate threats when I'm making a good faith effort to debate, so let's assume good faith, before we assume deliberate disruption, and let's work on simply being more reasonable in our arguments. Thanks. -- [[User:Avanu|Avanu]] ([[User talk:Avanu|talk]]) 00:07, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
:Thank you for that comment.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 00:34, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
==O' Reilly Joke==
I edited the 2012 election as a joke, obviously I understand that O'Reily is not the republican nominee (we aren't that lucky), I simply did that for the lol's. Peace out buzzkill.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/65.29.153.119|65.29.153.119]] ([[User talk:65.29.153.119|talk]]) 05:21, 14 July 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:It wasn't funny. If you want to be funny go [http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page here].--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 05:39, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

== Thanks... ==

For checking over my DYK on [[John R. Tunis]]. It's only me second DYK, so I still get a bit of a kick out of watching it progress. Thanks for taking the time to keep it moving. [[User:Tlqk56|Tlqk56]] ([[User talk:Tlqk56|talk]]) 00:14, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
:No problem. I'm glad to help.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 04:13, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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== WikiCup 2012 July newsletter ==

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We're approaching the beginning of 2012's final round. Pool A sees {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Cwmhiraeth}} as the leader, with 300 points being awarded for the featured article [[Bivalvia]], and Pool B sees {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grapple X}} in the lead, with 10 good articles, and over 35 articles eligible for good topic points. Pool A sees {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Muboshgu}} in second place with a number of articles relating to baseball, while Pool B's {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Ruby2010}} follows Grapple X, with a variety of contributions including the high-scoring, high-importance featured article on the 2010 film ''[[Pride & Prejudice (2005 film)|Pride & Prejudice]]''. Ruby2010, like Grapple X, also claimed a number of good topic points; despite this, not a single point has been claimed for featured topics in the contest so far. The same is true for featured portals.

Currently, the eighth-place competitor (and so the lowest scorer who would reach the final round right now) has scored 332, more than double the 150 needed to reach the final round last year. In 2010, however, 430 was the lowest qualifying score. In this competition, we have generally seen scores closer to those in 2010 than those in 2011. Let's see what kind of benchmark we can set for future competitions! As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews]]. Questions are welcome on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup]], and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send]].</small> [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]] • [[Special:Emailuser/J Milburn|email]]) and [[User:The ed17|The ed17]] ([[User talk:The ed17|talk]] • [[Special:Emailuser/The ed17|email]]) 22:37, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
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== DYK for Virgil Goode presidential campaign, 2012 ==

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|text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions#6 August 2012|6 August 2012]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[Virgil Goode presidential campaign, 2012]]''''', which you created or substantially expanded.  {{#if: |The nomination discussion and review may be seen at [[]].|{{#ifexist:Template:Did you know nominations/Virgil Goode presidential campaign, 2012|The nomination discussion and review may be seen at [[Template:Did you know nominations/Virgil Goode presidential campaign, 2012]].|{{#ifexist:Template talk:Did you know/Virgil Goode presidential campaign, 2012|The nomination discussion and review may be seen at [[Template talk:Did you know/Virgil Goode presidential campaign, 2012]].}} }} }} You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>([[User:Rjanag/Pageview stats|here's how]], [http://stats.grok.se/en/201208/Virgil_Goode_presidential_campaign,_2012 quick check])</small> and it will be added to [[WP:DYKSTATS|DYKSTATS]] if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know? talk page]].
}}  ''[[User: Allen3|Allen3]]''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Allen3|talk]]</sup> 16:08, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

== Move reverts ==

Your last edit comment[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Barry_Goldwater_presidential_campaign,_1964&action=history] doesn't really explain anything except that you don't like my edit. Could you explain why you disagree with it?

[[User:Peter Isotalo|Peter]] <sup>[[User talk:Peter Isotalo|Isotalo]]</sup> 22:26, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
:You caught me at a bad time, and I did not understand the refusal to observe BRD. The fact is that the election year is included in the title, not for disambiguation of the candidate, but for the "presidential campaign" aspect. If it's not defined in the title, then it may cause confusion.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 23:56, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

::I was going by standard disambiguation practices, ie not adding anything to article titles that isn't necessary for disambiguation. Wherein the possible confusion lies is unclear to me. I wasn't aware that at some point it had been decided that titles of presidential campaign articles had a purpose other than disambiguation.
::[[User:Peter Isotalo|Peter]] <sup>[[User talk:Peter Isotalo|Isotalo]]</sup> 10:17, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

== Good job ==

I'd like to commend you on the care and effort you've been putting into those articles on political campaigns. Ideally, ''all'' our articles would be as well-cited as yours.

I'd give you a barnstar, but I'm not really clear on which one would be most appropriate in this context. <INSERT MOST SUITABLE BARNSTAR HERE>: for William S. Saturn, in honor of all the hard work he does on political articles. [[User:DragonflySixtyseven|DS]] ([[User talk:DragonflySixtyseven|talk]]) 13:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

== Re:Hilarious ==

Yeah, the intro [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special_Operations_OPSEC_Education_Fund&oldid=507675032 as I first wrote it] was either not entirely fair or too fair by half. If you register as a social welfare group with the IRS, and then simply run ads calling the President vain in order to tip the election... am I not doing you a favor by explaining that you promote social welfare by calling the President vain in battleground states? I mean, when sooner or later you are keel-hauled in front of the IRS, wouldn't you like to point to your Wikipedia page as a defense? I'm presuming a lot to think the IP had a vested interest, but at least in my mind, no good deed goes unpunished. ;) -- [[User:Kendrick7|Kendrick7]]<sup>[[User_talk:Kendrick7|talk]]</sup> 03:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

== WikiCup 2012 August newsletter ==

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The final is upon us! We are down to our final 8. A massive 573 was our lowest qualifying score; this is higher than the 150 points needed last year and the 430 needed in 2010. Even in 2009, when points were acquired for mainspace edit count in addition to audited content, 417 points secured a place. That leaves this year's WikiCup, by one measure at least, our most competitive ever. Our finalists, ordered by round 4 score, are:
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grapple X}} once again finishes the round in first place, leading Pool B. Grapple X writes articles about television, and especially ''The X-Files'' and ''Millenium'', with good articles making up the bulk of the score.
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Miyagawa}} led Pool A this round. Fourth-place finalist last year, Miyagawa writes on a variety of topics, and has reached the final primarily off the back of his massive number of did you knows.
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Ruby2010}} was second in Pool B. Ruby2010 writes primarily on television and film, and scores primarily from good articles.
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Casliber}} finished third in Pool B. Casliber is something of a WikiCup veteran, having finished sixth in 2011 and fourth in 2010. Casliber writes on the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy. Over half of Casliber's points this round were bonus points from the high-importance articles he has worked on.
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Cwmhiraeth}} came second in Pool A. Also writing on biology, especially marine biology, Cwmhiraeth received 390 points for one featured article ([[Bivalvia]]) and one good article ([[pelican]]), topping up with a large number of did you knows.
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Muboshgu}} was third in Pool A. Muboshgu writes primarily on baseball, and this round saw Muboshgu's first featured article, [[Derek Jeter]], promoted on its fourth attempt at FAC.
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Dana boomer}} was fourth in Pool A. She writes on a variety of topics, including horses, but this round also saw the high-importance [[lettuce]] reach featured article status.
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Sasata}} is another WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist in 2009 and 2010. He writes mostly on mycology.

However, we must also say goodbye to the eight who did not make the final, having fallen at the last hurdle: {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|GreatOrangePumpkin}}, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Ealdgyth}}, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Calvin999}}, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Piotrus}}, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Toa Nidhiki05}}, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|12george1}}, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|The Bushranger}} and {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|1111tomica}}. We hope to see you all next year.

On the subject of next year, a discussion has been opened [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup/Scoring#Changes for next year?|here]]. Come and have your say about the competition, and how you'd like it to run in the future. This brainstorming will go on for some time before more focused discussions/polls are opened. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews]]. Questions are welcome on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup]], and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send]].</small> [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]] • [[Special:Emailuser/J Milburn|email]]) and [[User:The ed17|The ed17]] ([[User talk:The ed17|talk]] • [[Special:Emailuser/The ed17|email]]) 00:27, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
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== '''The Olive Branch''': A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1) ==

Welcome to the first edition of ''The Olive Branch''.  This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in [[WP:DR|dispute resolution]] (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area.  You were delivered this update because you are [[Wikipedia:Dispute_Resolution_Improvement_Project/NewsletterList|active in DR]], but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to [[Wikipedia:Dispute Resolution Improvement Project/NewsletterOptOut|this page]].
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* '''Background''': A brief overview of the DR ecosystem.  
* '''Research''': The most recent DR data
* '''Survey results''': Highlights from Steven Zhang's April 2012 survey
* '''Activity analysis''':  Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums
* '''DR Noticeboard comparison''':  How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
* '''Discussion update''': Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
* '''Proposal''': It's time to close the [[Wikipedia:Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard|Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard]].  Agree or disagree?
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== Creativemind15 - disruptive editing in 2008 and 2012 U.S. Presidential Election articles ==

I just discovered that Creativemind15 sneaked in the VP candidates into the presidential candidates sections of the 2008 and 2012 election articles. In the 2008 article, he did it within the past 24 hours, adding Biden and Palin, and their pics. And he added the words subtitles "Nominees" and "Withdrew" in both articles, even though those sections are just to list the presidential candidates. For example, see the Republican candidates sections in the 2012 article.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Candidates_2] I just reverted what Creativemind did in the 2008 article and put in the edit comments that that section is for <b>presidential candidates</b> only; and that the VP nominees are only in the infobox. In the 2012 article, he started sneaking in the content at: 22:02, 14 August 2012‎ and apparently no one noticed. I can't revert it because the article is protected. He added Biden and Ryan, and their pics into the candidates section. I also notice he sneaks in changes of pics with comments like "I like this one better" or "This one is better", etc. Anyway, I fixed 2008, but I can't fix 2012 because it's protected.  Here's the starting point in each article where he started added the VPs and their pics into the presidential candidates sections in the two articles: [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=United_States_presidential_election,_2008&diff=510845444&oldid=510752887] (2008) and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=United_States_presidential_election,_2012&diff=507443521&oldid=507436175] (2012). Here's what the candidates photo gallery sections looked like in the 2012 article before Creativemind started changing them.[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=United_States_presidential_election,_2012&oldid=507436175] Thanks. --[[Special:Contributions/76.189.126.159|76.189.126.159]] ([[User talk:76.189.126.159|talk]]) 20:32, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

:I posted this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Edit_Request_-_VP_nominees_inappropriately_added_to_candidate_photo_galleries edit request] because I'm not sure if you can fix it or if it requires and edit request. :) --[[Special:Contributions/76.189.126.159|76.189.126.159]] ([[User talk:76.189.126.159|talk]]) 22:26, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

::Update: Jack Bornholm fixed it and then Creativemind posted [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:United_States_presidential_election,_2012&diff=510986045&oldid=510985208 this explanation]. So it looks like the matter is resolved. :) But I still can't believe that no editors noticed that such a major, inappropriate change went overlooked for three weeks. Haha. --[[Special:Contributions/76.189.126.159|76.189.126.159]] ([[User talk:76.189.126.159|talk]]) 23:08, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history|Military history]] coordinator election ==

The Military history WikiProject has started its [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators/September 2012|'''2012 project coordinator election process''']], where we will select a team of coordinators to organize the project over the coming year. If you would like to be considered as a candidate, please submit your nomination by 14 September. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact one of the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators|current coordinators]] on their talk page. <small>This message was delivered here because you are a [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Members|member]] of the Military history WikiProject.</small>&nbsp;– '''Military history coordinators''' ([[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history|about the project]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators#What do the coordinators do?|what coordinators do]]) 09:55, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
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== WikiCup 2012 September newsletter ==

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We're over half way through the final, and so it is less than a month until we know for certain our 2012 WikiCup champion. {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grapple X}} currently leads, followed by {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Sasata}}, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Cwmhiraeth}} and {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Casliber}}. However, we have no one resembling a breakaway leader, and so the competition is a long way from over. Next month's newsletter will feature a list of our winners (who are not necessarily only the finalists) and keep your eyes open for an article on the WikiCup in a future edition of ''[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost|The Signpost]]''. The leaders are already on a par with last year's winners, but a long way from the huge scores seen in 2010. That said, a repeat of the competition from 2010 seems unlikely.

It is good to see that three-quarters of our finalists have already scored bonus points this round. This shows that, contrary to criticism that the WikiCup has received in the past, the competition does not merely incentivise the writing of trivial articles; instead, our top competitors are still spending their time contributing to high-importance articles, and bringing them to a high standard. This does a great service to the encyclopedia and its readers. Thank you, and good work!

The planning for next year's WikiCup is ongoing. Some [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup/Scoring#Straw poll time|straw polls]] have been opened concerning the scoring, and you can now [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/2013 signups|sign up for next year's competition]]. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews]]. Questions are welcome on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup]], and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send]].</small> [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]] • [[Special:Emailuser/J Milburn|email]]) and [[User:The ed17|The ed17]] ([[User talk:The ed17|talk]] • [[Special:Emailuser/The ed17|email]]) [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]]) 20:07, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
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== WikiCup 2012 October newsletter ==

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The 2012 WikiCup has come to a close; congratulations to {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Cwmhiraeth}}, our 2012 champion! Cwmhiraeth joins our exclusive club of previous winners: {{ul|Dreamafter}} (2007), {{ul|jj137}} (2008), {{ul|Durova}} (2009), {{ul|Sturmvogel 66}} (2010) and {{ul|Hurricanehink}} (2011). Our final standings were as follows:

#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Cwmhiraeth}}
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Sasata}}
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grapple X}}
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Casliber}}
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Muboshgu}}
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Miyagawa}}
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Ruby2010}}
#{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Dana boomer}}

Prizes for first, second, third and fourth will be awarded, as will prizes for all those who reached the final eight. Every participant who scored in the competition will receive a ribbon of participation. In addition to the prizes based on placement, the following special prizes will be awarded based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, the prize is awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round.

*The featured article award goes to {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grapple X}}, for four featured articles in the final round.
*The good article award also goes to {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grapple X}}, for 19 good articles in the second round.
*The list award goes to {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Muboshgu}}, for three featured lists in the final round.
*The topic award goes to {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grapple X}}, for three good topics (with around 40 articles) in round 4.
*The did you know award goes to {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Cwmhiraeth}}, for well over 100 DYKs in the final round.
*The news award goes to {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|ThaddeusB}}, for 10 in the news items in round 3.
*The picture award goes to {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grandiose}}, for two featured pictures in round 2.
*The reviewer award goes to both {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Ruby2010}} (14 reviews in round 1) and {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Grandiose}} (14 reviews in round 3).
*Finally, for achieving an incredible bonus point total in the final round, and for bringing the top-importance article [[frog]] to featured status, a [[WP:BS|biostar]] has been awarded to {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant3|Cwmhiraeth}}.

Awards will be handed out in the coming days; please bear with us! This year's competition also saw fantastic contributions in all rounds, from newer Wikipedians contributing their first good or featured articles, right up to highly experienced Wikipedians chasing high scores and contributing to topics outside of their usual comfort zones. It would be impossible to name all of the participants who have achieved things to be proud of, but well done to all of you, and thanks! Wikipedia has certainly benefited from the work of this year's WikiCup participants.

Next year's WikiCup will begin in January. Currently, [[Wikipedia talk:WikiCup/Scoring#Straw poll time|discussions and polls are open]], and all contributions are welcome. You can also [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/2013 signups|sign up for next year's competition]]. There will be no further newsletters this year, although brief notes may be sent out in December to remind everyone about the upcoming competition. It's been a pleasure to work with you all, and we hope to see you all in January! [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]] • [[Special:Emailuser/J Milburn|email]]) and [[User:The ed17|The ed17]] ([[User talk:The ed17|talk]] • [[Special:Emailuser/The ed17|email]]) 00:50, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
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== Ballot Maps for Third Parties ==

::I can assure you that the ballot access maps for Hoefling, Anderson, and Goode are accurate, based off their own press releases as to which states they are active in and in what capacity; same for all the other candidates. I had used Politics1 previously, but they have since fallen behind, nor have they been active the last week or so. As for changing the colors around, I did just that as requested, so the states where they are on the ballots are now more prominent. --[[User:Ariostos|Ariostos]] ([[User talk:Ariostos|talk]]) 23:30, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
:::Thank you for that.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 23:57, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
::::Just doing what needs doing. Your welcome though. --[[User:Ariostos|Ariostos]] ([[User talk:Ariostos|talk]]) 00:13, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
:::Darn it, I just read the Article. William, sorry, but I was still in the middle of updating the boxes themselves when you must have posted them into the article; the colors for the three boxes you put up should be reversed regarding which states are Write-In, and which states they are on the Ballot itself. Again, sorry. --[[User:Ariostos|Ariostos]] ([[User talk:Ariostos|talk]]) 00:32, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
::::Thanks for letting me know. I have fixed it now.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 00:38, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

== Presidential election ==

{{{icon|[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]]}}} '''Warning''' Just a friendly reminder, keep the side remarks down. No personal attacks. [[United States presidential election, 2012]] is subject to sanctions, see [[Wikipedia:General sanctions/2012 Presidential Campaign/Log]].
:I don't give a shit.--[[User:William S. Saturn|William S. Saturn]] ([[User talk:William S. Saturn#top|talk]]) 22:03, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
::But I also want to thank you for taking an interest in helping to improve WP. I could have made that more clear. I have been collecting comments about WP, and the most recent was "no one believes what Wikipedia says anyway" (and that was from a WP admin). [[User:Apteva|Apteva]] ([[User talk:Apteva|talk]]) 22:51, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Meetup/SeattleWLL/2012|Wikipedia Loves Libraries Seattle]] ==

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| <div style="background: #fff;margin-right: 10px;">[[File:Seattle Public Library.jpg|thumb|left|Seattle Public Library]]</div>
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*'''Date''' Saturday, December 8, 2012 
*'''Time''' 10 a.m. – 3 p.m.
*'''Location''' [http://www.spl.org/ Seattle Public Library] Meeting Room 1 on Level 4, Central Library,  1000 4th Avenue, Seattle WA, 98104
*'''Event''' An ''editathon'' on Seattle-related Wikipedia articles with Wikipedia tutorials and Librarian assistance on hand.
*'''Hashtag''' #wikiloveslib or #glamwiki.
*'''Registration''' [http://wll-seattle.eventbrite.com http://wll-seattle.eventbrite.com] or use [[Wikipedia:Meetup/SeattleWLL/2012#Sign-up|on-wiki regsistration]].
Yours, [[User:Maximilianklein|Maximilianklein]] ([[User talk:Maximilianklein|talk]]) 03:15, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
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== WikiCup 2013 starting soon ==

Hi there; you're receiving this message because you have previously [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send|shown interest]] in the WikiCup. This is just to remind you that the [[WP:CUP|2013 WikiCup]] will be starting on 1 January, and that [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/2013 signups|signups will remain open]] throughout January. Old and new Wikipedians and WikiCup participants are warmly invited to take part in this year's competition. (Though, as a note to the more experienced participants, there have been [[Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring#What.27s_changed_from_last_year.3F|a few small rules changes]] in the last few months.) If you have already signed up, let this be a reminder; you will receive a message with your submissions' page soon. Please direct any questions to the [[WT:CUP|WikiCup talk page]]. Thanks! [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] 19:33, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

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