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=== February 5 ===
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==== Category:Louisville Athletic Club football seasons ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''merge''' to [[:Category:Defunct sports clubs and teams in Louisville, Kentucky]]. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> <b style="font-family:Courier New;">[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/him) 22:45, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Louisville Athletic Club football seasons}}
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Only one page in category. [[User:Let&#39;srun|Let&#39;srun]] ([[User talk:Let&#39;srun|talk]]) 22:44, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
*'''<s>Soft Delete</s>''' I don't see any real harm in keeping it (in case there's more potential entries), but its sole entry can be easily moved up to "Defunct sports clubs and teams in Louisville, Kentucky". [[User:StefenTower|<span style="color: green;">'''Stefen <span style="white-space: nowrap;">Tower<sub>s among the rest!</sub></span>'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:StefenTower|Gab]] • [[Special:Contributions/StefenTower|Gruntwerk]]</sup> 23:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
*:'''Support in principle,''' but the category should be merged not deleted. [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 23:52, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
*::That is assumed, I thought. It's just one entry at any rate. I will gladly recat the article. [[User:StefenTower|<span style="color: green;">'''Stefen <span style="white-space: nowrap;">Tower<sub>s among the rest!</sub></span>'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:StefenTower|Gab]] • [[Special:Contributions/StefenTower|Gruntwerk]]</sup> 00:05, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*::* Delete does not assume merge, on the contrary. Merge assumes merge. Delete assumes delete. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 07:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*::*:Pretty academic for a category with one entry - that's all I'm saying. Recatting the single entry and deleting the category is an effective merge. [[User:StefenTower|<span style="color: green;">'''Stefen <span style="white-space: nowrap;">Tower<sub>s among the rest!</sub></span>'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:StefenTower|Gab]] • [[Special:Contributions/StefenTower|Gruntwerk]]</sup> 14:12, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge''' to  [[:Category:Sports in Louisville, Kentucky]]. The article is already in [[:Category:1895 college football season]]. –[[User:Aidan721|Aidan721]] ([[User talk:Aidan721|talk]]) 18:23, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*:Grandchild category [[:Category:Defunct sports clubs and teams in Louisville, Kentucky]] (current parent to the one being discussed) is a better fit for where this article should end up. Ideally, [[:Category:Sports in Louisville, Kentucky]] will have few articles and mostly subcats. Some of the remaining articles will end up in not yet created subcats for "Baseball in..." and "American football in..." before long. [[User:StefenTower|<span style="color: green;">'''Stefen <span style="white-space: nowrap;">Tower<sub>s among the rest!</sub></span>'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:StefenTower|Gab]] • [[Special:Contributions/StefenTower|Gruntwerk]]</sup> 19:07, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' to [[:Category:Defunct sports clubs and teams in Louisville, Kentucky]] per my above reply to Aidan721. Scratched my first !vote. [[User:StefenTower|<span style="color: green;">'''Stefen <span style="white-space: nowrap;">Tower<sub>s among the rest!</sub></span>'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:StefenTower|Gab]] • [[Special:Contributions/StefenTower|Gruntwerk]]</sup> 19:10, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*:That seems reasonable. –[[User:Aidan721|Aidan721]] ([[User talk:Aidan721|talk]]) 14:47, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*:'''Merge''' per StefenTower and [[WP:NARROWCAT]]. - [[User:RevelationDirect|RevelationDirect]] ([[User talk:RevelationDirect|talk]]) 02:39, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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====Category:King Tornado football====
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==== Category:Fictional nephilims ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' '''merge'''<!-- Template:Cfd top --> <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> <b style="font-family:Courier New;">[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/him) 22:44, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Fictional nephilims]] to [[:Category:Fictional half-demons]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Made by a blocked user. This is a NARROWCAT with few articles that would fit. I suggest a merge to half-demons, but not angels, as they are not 100% angel beings.  [[User:Zxcvbnm|ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ]] ([[User talk:Zxcvbnm|ᴛ]]) 21:42, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge''', "nephilim" specifically is not a defining characteristic of these articles. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 22:08, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:British currency traders ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' '''merge'''<!-- Template:Cfd top --> <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> [[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span>]][[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span>]] 19:07, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

:* '''Propose merging''' {{clc|British currency traders}} to [[:Category:Currency traders]] and [[:Category:British financial businesspeople]]
:* '''Propose merging''' {{clc|American currency traders}} to [[:Category:American financial traders]] and [[:Category:Currency traders]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' This category tree ({{clc|Currency traders}}) is too small to need diffusion by nationality. Merge for now. [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 21:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''At least merge the British''' with only two articles. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 22:10, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge''' both as nominated. As nom says, [[:Category:Currency traders]] is just too small to need diffusion by nationality. <b style="font-family:Courier New;">[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/him) 22:51, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:Distributaries of the Amazon River ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''merge''' to [[:Category:Amazon River]] and [[:Category:Distributaries]]. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> <b style="font-family:Courier New;">[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/him) 01:03, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Distributaries of the Amazon River]] to [[:Category:Distributaries]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Only one article –[[User:LaundryPizza03|<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b>]] ([[User talk:LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0d0">d</span>]][[Special:Contribs/LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span>]]) 19:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
::'''Comment'''. It should also be merged to [[:Category:Amazon River|Amazon River]]. [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 21:32, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Dual merge''', also to [[:Category:Amazon River]] or [[:Category:Amazon basin]]. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 22:04, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:Fictional offspring of rape ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' '''delete'''<!-- Template:Cfd top --> <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> <b style="font-family:Courier New;">[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/him) 20:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Fictional offspring of rape}}
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Similar in concept to [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_27#Category:Fictional_offspring_of_incestuous_relationships]], which closed as delete. No real-world counterpart, which would violate [[WP:BLPCAT]]. –[[User:LaundryPizza03|<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b>]] ([[User talk:LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0d0">d</span>]][[Special:Contribs/LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span>]]) 19:15, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
::'''Support''' per nom [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 21:32, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Per nom, trivial characteristic that is not defining. [[User:Zxcvbnm|ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ]] ([[User talk:Zxcvbnm|ᴛ]]) 21:44, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Delete''', if anything the rape is defining for the parents, not for the offspring. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 22:12, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
*:'''Delete:''' Not a defining characteristic. [[User:Let&#39;srun|Let&#39;srun]] ([[User talk:Let&#39;srun|talk]]) 14:36, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:Fictional omnicide perpetrators ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' '''merge'''<!-- Template:Cfd top --> <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> <b style="font-family:Courier New;">[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/him) 20:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Fictional omnicide perpetrators]] to [[:Category:Fictional genocide perpetrators]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Made by a blocked user. No article called [[omnicide]] exists, it only redirects to the broad concept of human extinction.  [[User:Zxcvbnm|ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ]] ([[User talk:Zxcvbnm|ᴛ]]) 16:41, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
::'''Merge''' per nom. –[[User:LaundryPizza03|<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b>]] ([[User talk:LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0d0">d</span>]][[Special:Contribs/LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span>]]) 19:20, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge''', not a clear enough distinction. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 22:15, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:Actors from London by locality ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''merge as nominated''' with the exception of [[:Category:Actresses from Islington (district)]]. One of the targets is a {{t|category disambiguation}} ([[:Category:People from Islington]]), so I am [[WP:IAR]]ing and declaring there is consensus to merge to [[:Category:People from Islington (district)]]. (This only affects the articles about [[Angel Coulby]] and [[Naomie Harris]].) <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> <b style="font-family:Courier New;">[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/him) 22:16, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Actors from London by locality}}

:* '''Propose merging'''
::*[[:Category:Actresses from Canning Town]] to [[:Category:People from Canning Town]] and [[:Category:Actresses from London]]
::*[[:Category:Actresses from Chelsea, London]] to [[:Category:People from Chelsea, London]] and [[:Category:Actresses from London]]
::*[[:Category:Actresses from Dagenham]] to [[:Category:People from Dagenham]] and [[:Category:Actresses from London]]
::*[[:Category:Actresses from Finsbury Park]] to [[:Category:People from Finsbury Park]] and [[:Category:Actresses from London]]
::*[[:Category:Actresses from Greenwich]] to [[:Category:People from Greenwich]] and [[:Category:Actresses from London]]
::*[[:Category:Actresses from Hammersmith]] to [[:Category:People from Hammersmith]] and [[:Category:Actresses from London]]
::*[[:Category:Actresses from Hillingdon]] to [[:Category:People from Hillingdon]] and [[:Category:Actresses from London]]
::*[[:Category:Actresses from Islington (district)]] to [[:Category:People from Islington]] and [[:Category:Actresses from London]]
::*[[:Category:Actresses from Kensington]] to [[:Category:People from Kensington]] and [[:Category:Actresses from London]]
::*[[:Category:Actresses from Marylebone]] to [[:Category:People from Marylebone]] and [[:Category:Actresses from London]]
::*[[:Category:Actresses from Paddington]] to [[:Category:People from Paddington]] and [[:Category:Actresses from London]]
::*[[:Category:Actresses from Romford]] to [[:Category:People from Romford]] and [[:Category:Actresses from London]]
::*[[:Category:Actresses from Westminster]] to [[:Category:People from Westminster]] and [[:Category:Actresses from London]]

::*[[:Category:Male actors from Bermondsey]] to [[:Category:People from Bermondsey]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Bethnal Green]] to [[:Category:People from Bethnal Green]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Brixton]] to [[:Category:People from Brixton]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Canning Town]] to [[:Category:People from Canning Town]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Chelsea, London]] to [[:Category:People from Chelsea, London]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Croydon]] to [[:Category:People from Croydon]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Dagenham]] to [[:Category:People from Dagenham]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Finsbury Park]] to [[:Category:People from Finsbury Park]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Fulham]] to [[:Category:People from Fulham]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Greenwich]] to [[:Category:People from Greenwich]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Hackney, London]] to [[:Category:People from Hackney, London]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Hammersmith]] to [[:Category:People from Hammersmith]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Hampstead]] to [[:Category:People from Hampstead]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Hillingdon]] to [[:Category:People from Hillingdon]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Hounslow]] to [[:Category:People from Hounslow]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Kensington]] to [[:Category:People from Kensington]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Lambeth]] to [[:Category:People from Lambeth]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Marylebone]] to [[:Category:People from Marylebone]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Paddington]] to [[:Category:People from Paddington]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Streatham]] to [[:Category:People from Streatham]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Wandsworth]] to [[:Category:People from Wandsworth]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Westminster]] to [[:Category:People from Westminster]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]
::*[[:Category:Male actors from Whitechapel]] to [[:Category:People from Whitechapel]] and [[:Category:Male actors from London]]

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::* [[:Category:Actors from Acton, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Ealing]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Archway, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Islington]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Balham]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Wandsworth]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Barking, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Barking and Dagenham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Barnes, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Battersea]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Wandsworth]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Beckenham]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Bromley]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Bermondsey]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Southwark]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Bethnal Green]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Bexley]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Barnet]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Blackheath, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the Royal Borough of Greenwich]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Bloomsbury]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Camden]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Bow, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Brentford]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hounslow]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Brixton]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Bromley]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Bromley]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Camberwell]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Southwark]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Camden Town]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Camden]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Canning Town]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Newham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Carshalton]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Sutton]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Chelsea, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Chingford]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Waltham Forest]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Chipping Barnet]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Barnet]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Chiswick]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hounslow]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Clapham]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Clerkenwell]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Islington]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Covent Garden]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Camden]] and [[:Category:Actors from the City of Westminster]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Crouch End]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Haringey]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Croydon]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Croydon]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Dagenham]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Barking and Dagenham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Deptford]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Lewisham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Dulwich]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Southwark]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Ealing]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Ealing]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from East Ham]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Newham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Edgware]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Barnet]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Edmonton, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Enfield]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Elephant and Castle]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Southwark]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Eltham]] to [[:Category:Actors from the Royal Borough of Greenwich]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Enfield, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Enfield]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Finchley]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Barnet]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Finsbury Park]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Haringey]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Forest Gate]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Newham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Forest Hill, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Lewisham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Fulham]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Greenwich]] to [[:Category:Actors from the Royal Borough of Greenwich]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Hackney, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hackney]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Hackney Central]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hackney]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Hammersmith]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Hampstead]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Camden]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Harlesden]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Brent]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Harringay]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Haringey]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Harrow, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Harrow]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Harrow on the Hill]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Harrow]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Hayes, Hillingdon]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hillingdon]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Hendon]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Barnet]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Herne Hill]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Southwark]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Highbury]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Islington]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Highgate]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Camden]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Hillingdon]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hillingdon]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Holborn]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Camden]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Hornsey]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Haringey]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Hounslow]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hounslow]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Hoxton]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hackney]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Ilford]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Redbridge]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Isleworth]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hounslow]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Islington (district)]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Islington]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Kennington]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Kensington]] to [[:Category:Actors from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Kentish Town]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Camden]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Kilburn, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Brent]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Kingston upon Thames]] to [[:Category:Actors from the Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Ladbroke Grove]] to [[:Category:Actors from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Lambeth]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Lewisham]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Lewisham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Maida Vale]] to [[:Category:Actors from the City of Westminster]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Marylebone]] to [[:Category:Actors from the City of Westminster]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Mile End]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Mill Hill]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Barnet]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Muswell Hill]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Haringey]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from New Cross]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Lewisham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Northwood, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hillingdon]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Notting Hill]] to [[:Category:Actors from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Orpington]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Bromley]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Paddington]] to [[:Category:Actors from the City of Westminster]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Peckham]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Southwark]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Pimlico]] to [[:Category:Actors from the City of Westminster]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Plaistow, Newham]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Newham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Plumstead]] to [[:Category:Actors from the Royal Borough of Greenwich]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Poplar, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Purley, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Croydon]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Putney]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Wandsworth]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Richmond, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Romford]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Havering]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Rotherhithe]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Southwark]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Shepherd's Bush]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Shoreditch]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hackney]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Sidcup]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Bexley]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Soho]] to [[:Category:Actors from the City of Westminster]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from South Norwood]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Croydon]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Southall]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Ealing]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Southgate, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Enfield]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Southwark]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Southwark]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from St John's Wood]] to [[:Category:Actors from the City of Westminster]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from St Pancras, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Camden]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Stanmore]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Harrow]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Stepney]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Stockwell]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Stoke Newington]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Hackney]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Streatham]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Sutton, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Sutton]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Sydenham, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Lewisham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Teddington]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Tooting]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Wandsworth]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Tottenham]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Haringey]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Twickenham]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Upminster]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Havering]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Victoria, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the City of Westminster]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Walthamstow]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Waltham Forest]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Wandsworth]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Wandsworth]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Wanstead]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Redbridge]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from West Ham]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Newham]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Westminster]] to [[:Category:Actors from the City of Westminster]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Whitechapel]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Willesden]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Brent]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Wimbledon, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Merton]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Wood Green]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Haringey]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Woodford, London]] to [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Redbridge]]
::* [[:Category:Actors from Woolwich]] to [[:Category:Actors from the Royal Borough of Greenwich]]
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:'''Nominator's rationale:''' per [[WP:OCLOCATION]]; see nomination for "Sportspeople by locality" for further rationale. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 14:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
::'''Updated target categories''': I previous proposed deletion for the categories listed in the collapsed box. However, I have changed those to '''merge''' with their respective "Actors from *borough*" categories per discussion below. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 15:42, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]], pinging so you're aware of the change; similar to how I did "Sportspeople" since that was the main concern. If needed, we can deal with "boroughs" categories later. But the first step should be to get rid of the locality tree, which is not very helpful, and simplify navigation. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 15:45, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic london]], pinging for your opinion on this. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 21:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge''', as a trivial intersection. This is mostly just by place of birth while they acted in entirely different locations (though possibly still in London). [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 16:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*:'''Soft oppose''' on the basis of application of OCLOCATION whih makes it clear that people i.e individual articles should not be categorised by their place of birth if that is non-defining. Therefore, it should be assessed on a case by case basis: if someone is not considered to be eligible for the Male actors from Kensington category because that cannot be verified beyond a birthplace which doesn't appear to be relevant to their overall life, then they shouldn't have the People from Kensington or Male actors from London category either! So if someone wants to go through every biography for every walk of life, every time period and every location and make that judgement, fair enough. Alternatively, I have noted that other Wikis don't use a Person by Geography category sphere at all, maybe that should be considered if it is not being used correctly and so of no value? Aside from either of those extremes, we'll just have to accept that life ain't perfect and many, many bios '''have''' been categorised by birthplace so some places, even relatively small parts of cities like London, have extremely large 'From' lists and so subcategories have been created in good faith using the occupation. Deleting entire trees because the People From concept has perhaps been misapplied (and will continue to be forever, let's face it, editors of all backgrounds like to put a hometown on articles if there appears to be one, and it would be very difficult to adequately 'police' its use due to the volume) is missing the point IMO.
*:It should also be noted that as things stand, Actresses from London has 1,484 articles and Male actors from London has 1,605, so little would be gained by simply bloating them out by 238 and 245 respectively. However, it is true that most of these locality categories are very small and in some cases clearly unfinished e.g only 1 member in [[:Category:Actresses from Romford]], but there are 8 females - none of whom appear to be self-declaring as non-binary! - in [[:Category:Actors from Romford]] (there is no Male Actors subcat there). A [[:Category:Actors from London by borough‎]] set has been created which these could be moved (it isn't gender-defined, but the locality categories shouldn't have been anyway as it makes them far too narrow), it might be easier to sort semi-manually using HotCat as otherwise I think it would need to be a two-step process i.e moving Male actors from Chelsea, London / Actresses from Chelsea, London‎ into Actors from Chelsea, London‎, ''then'' into Actors from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea, but maybe it could just be done directly...? [[User:Crowsus|Crowsus]] ([[User talk:Crowsus|talk]]) 23:21, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*::@[[User:Crowsus|Crowsus]], I would be in favor of keeping occupation boroughs for occupations that are quite big but having divisions by borough and occupation and THEN by neighborhoods/localities and occupation makes for a complicated tree. This whole tree (and that of sportspeople) is a good example of [[WP:OVERCAT]]. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 00:05, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
*:::That's true of this tree in terms of NARROWCAT but not really for the sportspeople where even relatively small places have dozens of entries. However, I didn't create those down to the Locality level and don't in general except for large cities with hundreds of participants in one sport. I prefer to stick to the People from [small place], Sportspeople from [province or small region] and then Footballers etc from [large region] as long as the numbers are there to support those intersection, which there usually are for the larger countries and major sports in western Europe. You keep claiming the trees are confusing, but there is a logical pattern for London sportspeople with the 32 Boroughs - which have been in place for 60 years and are familiar to everyone with a passing interest in the city. Of course not everyone will know what locality falls within which borough (and unfortunately a few overlap) and that's why I added Sportspeople from London by locality as a simple container (and Footballers from London by locality a level down) so readers would be able to find the specific place alphabetically and not have to hunt in the boroughs. Difficult to imagine people can't work out that the Boroughs are subcategories of Greater London and the Localities are subcategories of the Boroughs, and equally hard to think that people looking in such areas wouldn't be aware that Footballers are a subcategory of Sportspeople. Whether 7000 London footballers are better split into 32 lists of ~200 in Boroughs versus a single enormous list split into 35 pages of 200 is debatable, I would say the Boroughs option is preferable as it indicates what part of the London megapolis that person of that specific occupation originates from, which is something readers want to know, or else things like newspapers wouldn't mention X grew up in Y etc as often as they do. The actors is more of a mess because, as I've pointed out, its unfinished and illogically divided into male and female on different levels, something I had nothing to do with. Cleary the preference is to move both Actors and Sportspeople up to Borough level at least - I'm happy to volunteer to do that semi-manually if it would be annoying to program a bot to do it accurately. Hopefully then it will be obvious that it is beneficial for navigation and information gathering purposes to divide the notable residents of this huge, important and thus extensively documented city into smaller, officially defined zones, each the size of a typical city in their own right, however 'trivial' that is deemed by some editors here, rather than into unwieldy lists containing thousands of entries across dozens of alphabetised pages for the benefit of... anyone? Can't think who. [[User:Crowsus|Crowsus]] ([[User talk:Crowsus|talk]]) 14:15, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge''' per nom. An intersection of borough and occupation is trivial. I wonder if we will go down to the street level. If {{Cl|Actors from London}}/{{Cl|Male actors from London}}/{{Cl|Actresses from London}} are large, it may be an indication that this intersection itself is probably not very defining. Intersection by theatre company (when that was a lifelong thing), genre, century may be more useful. Even though thousands of people (maybe tens of thousands) are primarily defined as a ''British actor'', it will still be the most appropriate way to describe them in many cases. London is both, for centuries, a huge population centre and a capital of stage arts, it is hardly surprising there are many actors associated to it. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 20:14, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
*:@[[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]], you should take a look at the "Sportspeople by locality" categories just below this one. Its a similar situation. My suggestion is to simplify navigation (i.e. get rid of the locality categories) before dealing with the borough level categories. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 21:29, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
*:Why would we go down to street level? I think you should take the People from X itself to CfD. Not really defining for anyone is it under your interpretation? [[User:Crowsus|Crowsus]] ([[User talk:Crowsus|talk]]) 14:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
*::@[[User:Crowsus|Crowsus]], they clearly meant the intersection of occupation and locality, not the "People from X". [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 21:05, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
*:::Maybe you should let them confirm themself what they mean. "If Category:Actors from London/Category:Male actors from London/Category:Actresses from London are large, it may be an indication that this intersection itself is probably not very defining". How can that be interpreted any way other than "there are so many actors from London, it can't even be important / defining [so there's no reason even to have it as a category for them at all]." When the reality is, there is a huge collection of Actors from London for whom their background (their early experiences, their accent etc) '''is''' a defining characteristic, so we should be including that valid categorisation but looking at ways to break the huge list up in other ways, per [[WP:DIFFUSE]]. [[User:Crowsus|Crowsus]] ([[User talk:Crowsus|talk]]) 21:45, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
* '''Triple merge''' from gendered categories, e.g. [[:Category:Actresses from Canning Town]] to [[:Category:People from Canning Town]] and [[:Category:Actresses from London]] AND [[:Category:Actors from the London Borough of Newham]]. [[WP:OCLOCATION]] says "Location may also be used as a way to diffuse a large category into subcategories", and these levels strike me as a useful balance. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 22:30, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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::@[[User:Qwerfjkl|Qwerfjkl]], I believe the majority is in favoring of merging per nom. This intersection - like the one for sportspeople - is the definition of overcategorization. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 20:35, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:Assassinated politicians by political orientation ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' '''Delete''' without prejudice against creating a separate tree for politicians assasinated specifically because of their political ideology. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 16:58, 12 February 2024 (UTC)<!-- Template:Cfd top -->
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Assassinated politicians by political orientation}}
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Assassinated conservative politicians]] to [[:Category:Conservative politicians]]
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Assassinated liberal politicians]] to [[:Category:Liberal politicians]]
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Assassinated anti-communist politicians]] to [[:Category:Anti-communists]]
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Assassinated anti-capitalist politicians]] to [[:Category:Anti-capitalists]]
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Assassinated Democratic Party (United States) politicians]] to [[:Category:Democratic Party (United States) politicians]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Non defining intersection. Category description notes: "This category is for politicians who were assassinated and were conservatives", which doesn't not add any additional value. These people were not necessarily assassinated because of their political orientation.  See [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_11#Category:Killings_of_politicians]] for similar arguments about non-defining intersections for deaths of politicians. [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 18:27, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
::Pinging folks from that previous discussion: @[[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]], @[[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]], and @[[User:Thinker78|Thinker78]]. [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 18:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. How are you saying that political parties and ideologies of politicians who were assassinated are not defining for said politicians? They are absolutely defining as you can see said information regularly included in the lead of the articles about them and many politicians dedicating their lives to their political beliefs. I think  you are being excessively deletionist. 
:Per [[WP:NONDEF]],
:{{tq2|a defining characteristic is one that reliable, secondary sources commonly and consistently define, in prose, the subject as having}} Political parties, political orientation, beliefs is something that reliable sources commonly and consistently define for politicians.
:{{tq2|if the characteristic would not be appropriate to mention in the lead section of an article (determined without regard to whether it is mentioned in the lead), it is probably not defining}} As mentioned, politicians' articles regularly include the political orientation in the lead.
:Sincerely, <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">[[User:Thinker78|<span style="color:white">'''Thinker78'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Thinker78|(talk)]] 18:41, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
::I'm saying that the intersection is not defining. Both elements by themselves are defining, but not the INTERSECTION. What is the added value of the intersection? If this category were for people who were assassinated because of their political values, that would be added value. [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 19:00, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
:::The assassination of politicians of certain political orientations is absolutely defining by itself. For example in Latin America, politicians were persecuted and assassinated because of their political orientation. In the United States likewise, specially after the Civil War. Same around the world, many instances of political persecution deriving in assassination of politicians because of their political orientation. Regards, <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">[[User:Thinker78|<span style="color:white">'''Thinker78'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Thinker78|(talk)]] 19:47, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
::::Every time we seem to have the same conversation. What is the ADDED value beyond the politician being conservative and being assassinated? " You can't have it both ways, in your comment below you said that this category covers anyone who is "an assassinated conservative politician." The narrower category "Category:Politicians assassinated for being conservative"  you say "gets to be more restrictive and subjective", but that's because there is added information that makes the category useful. At present, I see not added value to the category. [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 00:00, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Support in principle''', utterly trivial intersection, but the categories can just be deleted because the article are already in other categories by ideology. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 19:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
* '''Neutral'''. I recon that politicians are more often than trivially assassinated for their political stance. However not all are: marital dispute, money or standing next to the intended target (such as [[Édouard Mortier, Duke of Treviso|Mortier]], [[Anton Cermak|Cermak]], [[Louis Barthou|Barthou]]) are common factors. I'm a bit ill-at-ease with catch-all terms such as ''conservative'' or ''anti-communist'' which may gather people with very different political positions killed for very different reasons. Maybe something like ''Politicians assassinated for being conservative'' may be better, or refine scope per era, party or conflict. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 10:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
*:@[[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] You have a point although naming the "Category:Politicians assassinated for being conservative" gets to be more restrictive and subjective. Say for example a conservative politician was assassinated while in office but there is not declared info on why they was{{efn|Yes, I think "was" is better conjugation on singular they, avoiding unnecessary confussions that plural conjugation provides.}} assassinated. Maybe the assassin killed them because being conservative, maybe not. In any case, what is a fact is there is an assassinated conservative politician. Regards, <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">[[User:Thinker78|<span style="color:white">'''Thinker78'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Thinker78|(talk)]] 19:00, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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==== Category:People of the Scientific Revolution ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete'''. Per [[WP:NONDEF]], [[WP:SUBJECTIVECAT]], [[WP:OCASSOC]]. This is not helpful for navigation. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> [[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span>]][[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span>]] 19:15, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
:'''Convert''' [[:Category:People of the Scientific Revolution]] to article [[People of the Scientific Revolution]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Extremely subjective [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 03:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' per [[WP:NONDEF]], and the idea that a revolution took place is very controversial. The existing [[Scientific Revolution]] article is fine, but we need no more than that. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 07:33, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', a good suggestion for an article but that has nothing to do with keeping the existing category. Since the [[Scientific Revolution]] topic exists (a period of changes long named and recognized) there is little reason to negate a category listing its main achievers. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 08:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*:Ok, but who counts as "main achievers"? [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 20:10, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*:* The existence of an article is not enough justification for creating a category, i.e. not every article needs an eponymous article. Besides we already have [[:Category:17th-century scientists]] and [[:Category:18th-century scientists]], it would largely overlap. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 22:52, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' as subjective. Article [[Scientific Revolution]] is sufficient to elaborate on the notion, including presenting major figures. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 22:48, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. The delete arguments are poorly conceived. This is a well documented and clearly defined subject in RS. There's enough literature on this topic in major academic history journals and books published by university presses to support the article and the associated category. People in this cat should only be in it if published reliable sources state they were a part of the "Scientific Revolution". Those included in the cat should be evaluated on a case by case basis.[[User:4meter4|4meter4]] ([[User talk:4meter4|talk]]) 05:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
*: This keep arguement is {{tq|poorly conceived}}. It supports the existence of an article named [[Scientific Revolution]], but not a {{Cl|People of the Scientific Revolution}}. Not every topic is good for a category. Guidelines will be a useful point of reference, such as [[WP:Categories, lists, and navigation templates]] and [[WP:SEPARATE|Keep people categories and topic categories separate]]. To elaborate on the arbitrary character:
*:* Both the [[Scientific Revolution]] article and the category put emphasis on the stated borders: "{{tq|from the 1543 publication of ''[[De revolutionibus orbium coelestium]]'' (''On the Revolutions of the Heavenly Spheres'') by [[Nicolaus Copernicus]] to the 1687 publication of ''[[Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica|Principia]]'' by [[Isaac Newton]].}}" These are of course arbitrary as, although major milestones, they put undue emphasis on what are just mere signs of a larger movement that takes more time and involves many people. The ''Big Day'' and ''Big Man'' approach is completely discarded in the study of either science or history. Among others, it discards:
*:** Evolutions in other fields than astronomy, such as printing, the adoption of perspective in painting, the progress in anatomy and medicine ([[Andreas Vesalius|Vesalius]] anyone?), religious reformation etc.
*:** Other contemporary figures of Newton who played just as important a role, such as Pascal and Descartes
*:** Science of other parts of the world such as the Muslim world and China
*:* A good number of the members of the category were born <u>after</u> your arbitrary end date of 1687: {{diff2|1186059881|d'Anville}}, {{diff2|1186054960|Franklin}}, {{diff2|1186059137|Lavoisier}}, {{diff2|1186058561|Linnaeus}}
*:* People in this category probably never considered themselves to be part of a single movement, unlike Renaissance humanists or Enlightenment philosophers, and even modern historiographic sources don't consider them that. That's primarily because science was not considered a separate field of knowledge (e.g. from philosophy) in this era.
*: In short: the Scientific Revolution is an important topic for a <u>topic</u> article, but as far as individual scientific figures of the era are concerned, an exhaustive and neutral [[:Category:17th-century scientists]] is probably better in many regards than an arbitrary collection of people you like. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 10:29, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per Place Clichy (or maybe '''merge''' to article [[Scientific Revolution]]). It is a [[WP:SUBJECTIVECAT]], regardless of whether RSes commonly use the subjective term. This discussion has inspired me to write an essay, which can be found at [[Wikipedia:Subjective traits documented in reliable sources are still subjective]]. <b style="font-family:Courier New;">[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/him) 22:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''' It's combines [[WP:SUBJECTIVECAT]] (was there a scientific "revolution"?) with [[WP:OCASSOC]] (who counts as part of it?)  No objection to a sourced list article (separate from CFD) where these nuances can be handled, but categories are binary in or out which doesn't lend itself to this topic. - [[User:RevelationDirect|RevelationDirect]] ([[User talk:RevelationDirect|talk]]) 01:11, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per 4meter4's argument. [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 03:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:Sportspeople from London by locality ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' '''Merge''' to boroughs (even for cricketers where the borough categories don't exist). [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 21:33, 17 February 2024 (UTC)<!-- Template:Cfd top -->
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Sportspeople from London by locality}}
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Cricketers from London by locality}}
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*'''Propose merging''':
:*[[:Category:Rugby union players from Bromley]] to [[:Category:People from Bromley]] and [[:Category:Rugby union players from the London Borough of Bromley]]
:*[[:Category:Rugby union players from Croydon]] to [[:Category:People from Croydon]] and [[:Category:Rugby union players from the London Borough of Croydon]]
:*[[:Category:Rugby union players from Greenwich]] to [[:Category:People from Greenwich]] and [[:Category:Rugby union players from the Royal Borough of Greenwich]]
:*[[:Category:Rugby union players from Kingston upon Thames]] to [[:Category:People from Kingston upon Thames]] and [[:Category:Rugby union players from the Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames]]
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*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Acton, London]] to [[:Category:People from Acton, London]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Ealing]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Balham]] to [[:Category:People from Balham]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Wandsworth]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Barnes, London]] to [[:Category:People from Barnes, London]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Battersea]] to [[:Category:People from Battersea]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Wandsworth]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Beckenham]] to [[:Category:People from Beckenham]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Bromley]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Bermondsey]] to [[:Category:People from Bermondsey]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Southwark]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Blackheath, London]] to [[:Category:People from Blackheath, London]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Lewisham]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Brentford]] to [[:Category:People from Brentford]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Hounslow]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Brixton]] to [[:Category:People from Brixton]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Bromley]] to [[:Category:People from Bromley]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Bromley]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Camberwell]] to [[:Category:People from Camberwell]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Southwark]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Carshalton]] to [[:Category:People from Carshalton]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Sutton]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Chelsea, London]] to [[:Category:People from Chelsea, London]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Chipping Barnet]] to [[:Category:People from Chipping Barnet]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Barnet]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Chiswick]] to [[:Category:People from Chiswick]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Hounslow]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Clapham]] to [[:Category:People from Clapham]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Croydon]] to [[:Category:People from Croydon]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Croydon]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Ealing]] to [[:Category:People from Ealing]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Ealing]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Edmonton, London]] to [[:Category:People from Edmonton]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Enfield]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Enfield, London]] to [[:Category:People from Enfield]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Enfield]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Farnborough, London]] to [[:Category:People from Farnborough, London]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Bromley]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Finchley]] to [[:Category:People from Finchley]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Barnet]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Fulham]] to [[:Category:People from Fulham]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Greenwich, London]] to [[:Category:People from Greenwich]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the Royal Borough of Greenwich]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Hackney Central]] to [[:Category:People from Hackney Central]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Hackney]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Hammersmith]] to [[:Category:People from Hammersmith]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Hampstead]] to [[:Category:People from Hampstead]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Camden]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Harrow, London]] to [[:Category:People from Harrow, London]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Harrow]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Hendon]] to [[:Category:People from Hendon]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Barnet]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Hillingdon]] to [[:Category:People from Hillingdon]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Hillingdon]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Ilford]] to [[:Category:People from Ilford]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Redbridge]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Islington]] to [[:Category:People from Islington]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Islington]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Kingston upon Thames]] to [[:Category:People from Kingston upon Thames]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Lambeth]] to [[:Category:People from Lambeth]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Lewisham]] to [[:Category:People from Lewisham]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Lewisham]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Leytonstone]] to [[:Category:People from Leytonstone]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Waltham Forest]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Marylebone]] to [[:Category:People from Marylebone]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the City of Westminster]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Paddington]] to [[:Category:People from Paddington]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the City of Westminster]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Richmond, London]] to [[:Category:People from Richmond, London]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Romford]] to [[:Category:People from Romford]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Havering]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Southgate, London]] to [[:Category:People from Southgate, London]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Enfield]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Southwark]] to [[:Category:People from Southwark]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Southwark]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Highgate]] to [[:Category:People from Highgate]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Islington]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Kensington]] to [[:Category:People from Kensington]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Twickenham]] to [[:Category:People from Twickenham]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Wembley]] to [[:Category:People from Wembley]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Brent]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from St Pancras, London]] to [[:Category:People from St Pancras, London]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Camden]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Stepney]] to [[:Category:People from Stepney]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Streatham]] to [[:Category:People from Streatham]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Sutton, London]] to [[:Category:People from Sutton, London]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Sutton]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Tottenham]] to [[:Category:People from Tottenham]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Haringey]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Walthamstow]] to [[:Category:People from Walthamstow]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Waltham Forest]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Wandsworth]] to [[:Category:People from Wandsworth]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Wandsworth]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from West Ham]] to [[:Category:People from West Ham]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Newham]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Westminster]] to [[:Category:People from Westminster]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the City of Westminster]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Wimbledon]] to [[:Category:People from Wimbledon, London]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Merton]]
*[[:Category:Sportspeople from Woolwich]] to [[:Category:People from Woolwich]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the Royal Borough of Greenwich]]
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*[[:Category:Footballers from Acton, London]] to [[:Category:People from Acton, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Ealing]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Balham]] to [[:Category:People from Balham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Wandsworth]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Archway, London]] to [[:Category:People from Archway, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Islington]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Barking, London]] to [[:Category:People from Barking, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Barking and Dagenham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Battersea]] to [[:Category:People from Battersea]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Wandsworth]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Beckenham]] to [[:Category:People from Beckenham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Bromley]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Belvedere, London]] to [[:Category:People from Belvedere, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Bexley]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Bermondsey]] to [[:Category:People from Bermondsey]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Southwark]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Bethnal Green]] to [[:Category:People from Bethnal Green]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Bexley]] to [[:Category:People from Bexley]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Bexley]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Bexleyheath]] to [[:Category:People from Bexleyheath]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Bexley]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Blackheath, London]] to [[:Category:People from Blackheath, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Lewisham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Bow, London]] to [[:Category:People from Bow, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Brentford]] to [[:Category:People from Brentford]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Hounslow]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Brixton]] to [[:Category:People from Brixton]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Brockley]] to [[:Category:People from Brockley]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Lewisham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Bromley]] to [[:Category:People from Bromley]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Bromley]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Bromley-by-Bow]] to [[:Category:People from Bromley-by-Bow]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Camberwell]] to [[:Category:People from Camberwell]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Southwark]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Camden Town]] to [[:Category:People from Camden Town]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Camden]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Canning Town]] to [[:Category:People from Canning Town]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Newham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Carshalton]] to [[:Category:People from Carshalton]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Sutton]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Catford]] to [[:Category:People from Catford]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Lewisham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Charlton, London]] to [[:Category:People from Charlton, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the Royal Borough of Greenwich]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Chelsea, London]] to [[:Category:People from Chelsea, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Chingford]] to [[:Category:People from Chingford]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Waltham Forest]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Chipping Barnet]] to [[:Category:People from Chipping Barnet]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Barnet]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Chiswick]] to [[:Category:People from Chiswick]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Hounslow]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Clapham]] to [[:Category:People from Clapham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Croydon]] to [[:Category:People from Croydon]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Croydon]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Dagenham]] to [[:Category:People from Dagenham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Barking and Dagenham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Deptford]] to [[:Category:People from Deptford]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Lewisham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Dulwich]] to [[:Category:People from Dulwich]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Southwark]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Ealing]] to [[:Category:People from Ealing]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Ealing]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from East Ham]] to [[:Category:People from East Ham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Newham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Edgware]] to [[:Category:People from Edgware]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Barnet]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Edmonton, London]] to [[:Category:People from Edmonton, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Enfield]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Eltham]] to [[:Category:People from Eltham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the Royal Borough of Greenwich]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Enfield, London]] to [[:Category:People from Enfield, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Enfield]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Erith]] to [[:Category:People from Erith]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Bexley]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Farnborough, London]] to [[:Category:People from Farnborough, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Bromley]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Feltham]] to [[:Category:People from Feltham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Hounslow]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Finchley]] to [[:Category:People from Finchley]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Barnet]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Finsbury Park]] to [[:Category:People from Finsbury Park]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Haringey]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Forest Gate]] to [[:Category:People from Forest Gate]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Newham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Fulham]] to [[:Category:People from Fulham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Greenwich]] to [[:Category:People from Greenwich]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the Royal Borough of Greenwich]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Hackney Central]] to [[:Category:People from Hackney Central]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Hackney]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Hackney, London]] to [[:Category:People from Hackney, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Hackney]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Hammersmith]] to [[:Category:People from Hammersmith]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Hampstead]] to [[:Category:People from Hampstead]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Camden]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Hanwell]] to [[:Category:People from Hanwell]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Ealing]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Harrow, London]] to [[:Category:People from Harrow, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Harrow]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Hayes, Hillingdon]] to [[:Category:People from Hayes, Hillingdon]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Hillingdon]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Hendon]] to [[:Category:People from Hendon]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Barnet]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Highgate]] to [[:Category:People from Highgate]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Islington]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Hillingdon]] to [[:Category:People from Hillingdon]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Hillingdon]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Holloway, London]] to [[:Category:People from Holloway, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Islington]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Hornchurch]] to [[:Category:People from Hornchurch]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Havering]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Hornsey]] to [[:Category:People from Hornsey]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Haringey]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Hounslow]] to [[:Category:People from Hounslow]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Hounslow]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Ilford]] to [[:Category:People from Ilford]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Redbridge]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Isleworth]] to [[:Category:People from Isleworth]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Hounslow]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Islington (district)]] to [[:Category:People from Islington]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Islington]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Kensington]] to [[:Category:People from Kensington]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Kilburn, London]] to [[:Category:People from Kilburn, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Brent]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Kingsbury, London]] to [[:Category:People from Kingsbury, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Brent]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Kingston upon Thames]] to [[:Category:People from Kingston upon Thames]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Lambeth]] to [[:Category:People from Lambeth]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Lewisham]] to [[:Category:People from Lewisham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Lewisham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Leyton]] to [[:Category:People from Leyton]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Waltham Forest]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Leytonstone]] to [[:Category:People from Leytonstone]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Waltham Forest]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Marylebone]] to [[:Category:People from Marylebone]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the City of Westminster]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Mile End]] to [[:Category:People from Mile End]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Mitcham]] to [[:Category:People from Mitcham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Merton]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from New Cross]] to [[:Category:People from New Cross]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Lewisham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Orpington]] to [[:Category:People from Orpington]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Bromley]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Paddington]] to [[:Category:People from Paddington]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the City of Westminster]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Park Royal]] to [[:Category:People from Park Royal]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Brent]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Peckham]] to [[:Category:People from Peckham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Southwark]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Plaistow, Newham]] to [[:Category:People from Plaistow, Newham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Newham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Plumstead]] to [[:Category:People from Plumstead]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the Royal Borough of Greenwich]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Poplar, London]] to [[:Category:People from Poplar, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Rainham, London]] to [[:Category:People from Rainham, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Havering]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Roehampton]] to [[:Category:People from Roehampton]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Wandsworth]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Romford]] to [[:Category:People from Romford]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Havering]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Shoreditch]] to [[:Category:People from Shoreditch]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Hackney]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Sidcup]] to [[:Category:People from Sidcup]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Bexley]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Silvertown]] to [[:Category:People from Silvertown]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Newham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Southall]] to [[:Category:People from Southall]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Ealing]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Southwark]] to [[:Category:People from Southwark]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Southwark]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from St Pancras, London]] to [[:Category:People from St Pancras, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Camden]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Stepney]] to [[:Category:People from Stepney]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Stockwell]] to [[:Category:People from Stockwell]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Stoke Newington]] to [[:Category:People from Stoke Newington]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Hackney]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Stratford, London]] to [[:Category:People from Stratford, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Newham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Streatham]] to [[:Category:People from Streatham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Lambeth]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Sutton, London]] to [[:Category:People from Sutton, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Sutton]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Tooting]] to [[:Category:People from Tooting]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Wandsworth]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Tottenham]] to [[:Category:People from Tottenham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Haringey]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Twickenham]] to [[:Category:People from Twickenham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Upton Park, London]] to [[:Category:People from Upton Park, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Newham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Uxbridge]] to [[:Category:People from Uxbridge]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Hillingdon]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Walthamstow]] to [[:Category:People from Walthamstow]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Waltham Forest]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Wandsworth]] to [[:Category:People from Wandsworth]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Wandsworth]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Wapping]] to [[:Category:People from Wapping]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Wembley]] to [[:Category:People from Wembley]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Brent]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from West Ham]] to [[:Category:People from West Ham]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Newham]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Westminster]] to [[:Category:People from Westminster]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the City of Westminster]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Whitechapel]] to [[:Category:People from Whitechapel]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Tower Hamlets]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Willesden]] to [[:Category:People from Willesden]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Brent]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Wimbledon, London]] to [[:Category:People from Wimbledon, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Merton]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Wood Green]] to [[:Category:People from Wood Green]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Haringey]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Woodford, London]] to [[:Category:People from Woodford, London]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the London Borough of Redbridge]]
*[[:Category:Footballers from Woolwich]] to [[:Category:People from Woolwich]] and [[:Category:Footballers from the Royal Borough of Greenwich]]
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*[[:Category:Cricketers from Beckenham]] to [[:Category:People from Beckenham]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from the London Borough of Bromley]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Bermondsey]] to [[:Category:People from Bermondsey]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from the London Borough of Southwark]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Bromley]] to [[:Category:People from Bromley]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from the London Borough of Bromley]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Camberwell]] to [[:Category:People from Camberwell]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from the London Borough of Southwark]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Carshalton]] to [[:Category:People from Carshalton]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Sutton]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from Greater London]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Chelsea, London]] to [[:Category:People from Chelsea, London]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Croydon]] to [[:Category:People from Croydon]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Croydon]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from Greater London]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Enfield, London]] to [[:Category:People from Enfield, London]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from the London Borough of Enfield]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Hammersmith]] to [[:Category:People from Hammersmith]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from Greater London]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Hampstead]] to [[:Category:People from Hampstead]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from the London Borough of Camden]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Harrow, London]] to [[:Category:People from Harrow, London]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Harrow]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from Greater London]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Islington]] to [[:Category:People from Islington]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Islington]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from Greater London]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Kensington]] to [[:Category:People from Kensington]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Kingston upon Thames]] to [[:Category:People from Kingston upon Thames]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from Greater London]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Lambeth]] to [[:Category:People from Lambeth]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Lambeth]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from Greater London]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Lewisham]] to [[:Category:People from Lewisham]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from the London Borough of Lewisham]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Marylebone]] to [[:Category:People from Marylebone]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from the City of Westminster]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Paddington]] to [[:Category:People from Paddington]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from the City of Westminster]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from St Pancras, London]] to [[:Category:People from St Pancras, London]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from the London Borough of Camden]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Wandsworth]] to [[:Category:People from Wandsworth]] and [[:Category:Sportspeople from the London Borough of Wandsworth]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from Greater London]]
*[[:Category:Cricketers from Westminster]] to [[:Category:People from Westminster]] and [[:Category:Cricketers from the City of Westminster]]
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:'''Nominator's rationale:''' per [[WP:OCLOCATION]]. The "Sportspeople from London" categories covered by the city; these have recently been divided further by borough and then by neighborhoods within the borough and THEN by sports. Makes navigation quite confusing and complicated. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 11:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
::'''Updated target categories''': I've changed target categories to their respective boroughs. There were a few for cricketers who didn't have borough targets so I suggest '''triple merge''' them to "Sportspeople from *borough*" and "Cricketers from Greater London" - @[[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]], is this fine? [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 14:50, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic london]], for your opinion on this one. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 21:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
::::Rather than merging to "Cricketers from Greater London", I suggest renaming Cricketers from Carshalton to {{cat|Cricketers from the London Borough of Sutton}} etc. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 22:03, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic london]], and the nomination itself? It is clearly a case of [[WP:OCLOCATION]] but I thought you may know better about categorization of British people. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 22:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge''', as a trivial intersection. This is mostly just by place of birth while they played sports in entirely different locations. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 16:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*:'''Oppose''', the whole point of these is the parent categories such as People from Croydon and Footballers from Greater London would be far too large. There is nothing confusing at all about someone being categorised by the sport they play and the town they are from as long as the tree of each follows a logical path, which these do. [[User:Crowsus|Crowsus]] ([[User talk:Crowsus|talk]]) 20:29, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*::Tagging [[user:Grutness]], [[user:Jevansen]], [[user:Suonii180]] and [[user:Namiba]] who are among those have also invested a great deal of time and effort in these trees and would probably be interested in this bid to blanket undo them conceptually (doubtless the result of this would be used as a precedent for other locations). Perhaps they can make more convincing arguments for retaining than me. [[User:Crowsus|Crowsus]] ([[User talk:Crowsus|talk]]) 20:38, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*:::Lastly, theupmerge proposal is badly flawed as it should be that these nominated categories be upmerged first to the level above, e.g Sportspeople, Cricketers and Footballers from Kensington and Sportspeople, Cricketers and Footballers from Chelsea should all be upmerged to Sportspeople from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea, Cricketers from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea and, you've guessed it, Footballers from the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea. Alternatively those Borough-level cats should also be nominated for upmerging, but that hasn't happened. Interesting to see what the reaction would be if this proposal was mirrored in equivalent American trees and so drew the attention of more editors in that part of the world: I see no reason why the London trees should go but the likes of [[:Category:Sportspeople from Riverside County, California]] with its 3 location subcats and 5 sport subcats should stay (just to be clear, I have no problem with the American ones, they are valid and so are the English ones). [[User:Crowsus|Crowsus]] ([[User talk:Crowsus|talk]]) 20:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*::::Oh, and a couple have been missed (Rugby union players from Kingston upon Thames, Rugby union players from Bromley) and there's a few disambigs in the upmerge to list. PS to give just 1 example in 1 sport from over 30 boroughs, upmerging the footballers from the London Borough of Lambeth and its localities would add 191 articles to Footballers from Greater London. Let's say the average is 150, so in what way does bloating that category by 4,500 aid navigation for anyone? [[User:Crowsus|Crowsus]] ([[User talk:Crowsus|talk]]) 21:23, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*:@[[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]], would you be in favor of changing the target categories to "Footballers by borough" (and so on) in order to avoid making [[:Category:Footballers from Greater London]] (and so on) too big? [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 21:38, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*:* I don't think that "too big" is a problem here, because sportspeople born in London (or a borough of it) have nothing in common with each other anyway. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 22:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*:*:I don't really understand that statement, can you explain? [[User:Crowsus|Crowsus]] ([[User talk:Crowsus|talk]]) 23:26, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*:*:* Categories are primarily useful because they allow to find more information about a broader topic very easily. But people just born in a certain place is not the kind of topic that anyone would likely want to find more information about. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 08:13, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
*'''Rescope/upmerge''' to sportspeople, cricketers, etc by London borough. Locality isn't very helpful, but borough is an established tree for biographies in general so it would make sense to have sportspeople similarly divided. London's boroughs are each as big as a medium-sized city anyway. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small>[[User_talk:Grutness|<span style="color: #008822;">wha?</span>]]</small>'' 02:19, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
*:@[[User:Grutness|Grutness]], I would be fine with changing target categories to boroughs. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 10:38, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
* '''Delete/merge''' per nom. The fact that there are many sportspeople from London, among all places, does not mean it needs to be made into multiple irrelevant categories. Large categories are fine. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 21:54, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' original target to Greater London sport categories as separation into smaller categories can be very useful especially with sports that tend to have a large amount of players such as football. However I wouldn't be against them being merged into boroughs rather than locality as an alternative. [[User:Suonii180|Suonii180]] ([[User talk:Suonii180|talk]]) 22:57, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
*:@[[User:Suonii180|Suonii180]], they are being merged to boroughs. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 18:36, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
*::@[[User:Suonii180|Suonii180]], are you still opposed to the nomination? Just clarifying, the target categories are boroughs categories and not the Greater London categories. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 19:14, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
*'''Merge/rename''' to intersections by borough and sport, e.g. rename [[:Category:Cricketers from Wandsworth]] to [[:Category:Cricketers from the London Borough of Wandsworth]]. [[WP:OCLOCATION]] says "Location may also be used as a way to diffuse a large category into subcategories", and this level strikes me as a useful balance. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 22:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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:<p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br /><small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, [[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span>]][[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span>]] 14:11, 5 February 2024 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:XfD relist --></p>
::@[[User:Qwerfjkl|Qwerfjkl]], I think majority is merge/rename as listed in the nomination. Only the creator of the categories is opposed while another oppose is against merging with a category that is not even the target category. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 20:33, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]], believe me, few things make closing more difficult than the nominator (or indeed anyone else involved) asking me to close a discussion in a certain way. [[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#1d9ffc; color:white; padding:5px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">Qwerfjkl</span>]][[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="background:#79c0f2;color:white; padding:2px; box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px;">talk</span>]] 19:10, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Qwerfjkl|Qwerfjkl]], sorry... was a bit annoyed at the when I posted this reply. Its been relisted twice now when, IMO, it should have been straight forward. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 20:12, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::I understand where you're coming from, though. Sorry for trying to force it. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 20:12, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:Sacred Heart High School (Ville Platte, Louisiana) alumni ====
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:* '''Propose Deleting''' [[:Category:Sacred Heart High School (Ville Platte, Louisiana) alumni]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' [[WP:NARROWCAT]] and [[WP:MFN]]
:[[Sacred Heart High School (Ville Platte, Louisiana)]] is a small school in a small town and this category created in 2015 still only has 1 entry ([[Danny Ardoin]]). Those two articles are directly linked so the category does not aid reader navigation and Mr. Ardoin is already in [[:Category:People from Ville Platte, Louisiana]] so there's no need for a merge. I tried and failed to populate the category, but no objection to recreating it later if a few relevant biography articles ever get published. - [[User:RevelationDirect|RevelationDirect]] ([[User talk:RevelationDirect|talk]]) 11:57, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' for now with no prejudice against recreation if the category can be appropriately populated. <b style="font-family:Courier New;">[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/him) 22:53, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:Tulane Green Wave broadcasters ====
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:* '''Propose Deleting''' [[:Category:Tulane Green Wave broadcasters]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' [[WP:V]] and the spirit of [[WP:C1]], an unpopulated category
:There's not much here:  two redirects which both point to [[List of New Orleans Pelicans broadcasters]] and that list article makes no mention of either [[Tulane University]] or their [[Tulane Green Wave|Green Wave team]]. Maybe the two announcers without articles also did work for a local college, but the current category doesn't aid reader navigation. - [[User:RevelationDirect|RevelationDirect]] ([[User talk:RevelationDirect|talk]]) 11:57, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Delete''', a category with just redirects is not helpful for navigation at all. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 22:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
*:'''Delete''' per nom. [[User:Let&#39;srun|Let&#39;srun]] ([[User talk:Let&#39;srun|talk]]) 19:00, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:North America–Pakistan relations ====
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:* '''Propose merging''' {{Cl|North America–Pakistan relations}} to {{Cl|Bilateral relations of Pakistan}}
:* '''Propose merging''' {{Cl|Caribbean–Pakistan relations}} to {{Cl|Bilateral relations of Pakistan}}
:* '''Propose merging''' {{Cl|Central America–Pakistan relations}} to {{Cl|Bilateral relations of Pakistan}}
:* '''Propose merging''' {{Cl|Africa–Pakistan relations}} to {{Cl|Bilateral relations of Pakistan}}
:* '''Propose merging''' {{Cl|Central Asia–Pakistan relations}} to {{Cl|Bilateral relations of Pakistan}}
:* '''Propose merging''' {{Cl|Europe–Pakistan relations}} to {{Cl|Bilateral relations of Pakistan}}
:* '''Propose merging''' {{Cl|Middle East–Pakistan relations}} to {{Cl|Bilateral relations of Pakistan}}
:* '''Propose merging''' {{Cl|Oceania–Pakistan relations}} to {{Cl|Bilateral relations of Pakistan}}
:* '''Propose merging''' {{Cl|Pakistan–South America relations}} to {{Cl|Bilateral relations of Pakistan}}
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Foreign relations of Pakistan by region}}
: '''Nominator's rationale:''' bilateral relations are... bilateral. These are basically containers of national bilateral categories. This structure was set up just for Pakistan and frankly I don't think it should be developed for other countries. The handful of articles about regional cooperation can be moved to {{Cl|Foreign relations of Pakistan}}. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 11:35, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
::'''Merge''' These relations are only with certain countries in the given regions, e.g. [[:Category:Canada–Pakistan relations]]. –[[User:LaundryPizza03|<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b>]] ([[User talk:LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0d0">d</span>]][[Special:Contribs/LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span>]]) 19:17, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:South Korea–Oceanian relations ====
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:* '''Propose merging''' {{Cl|South Korea–Oceanian relations}} to {{Cl|Foreign relations of South Korea}}
:* '''Propose deleting ''' {{lc|Foreign relations of South Korea by region}}
: '''Nominator's rationale:''' Only one article: [[Korea–Pacific Islands Summit]]. It's a one-line article about a 2023 meeting, which can be categorized in the target category. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 10:44, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
::'''Merge''' There should be categories only for specific countries or international organizations, such as [[Fiji–South Korea relations]]. –[[User:LaundryPizza03|<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b>]] ([[User talk:LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0d0">d</span>]][[Special:Contribs/LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span>]]) 19:18, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge/delete''' per nom. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 22:29, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:Overseas Turkish organizations ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' '''merge'''<!-- Template:Cfd top --> <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> <b style="font-family:Courier New;">[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/him) 20:51, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Overseas Turkish organizations]] to [[:Category:Turkish diaspora organizations]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Duplicate categories. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 08:05, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge''' per nom, and per {{cl|Diaspora organizations}} and the absence of [[:Category:Overseas organizations]]. The others of form "Overseas Fooian organizations" should be renamed. [[User:Perspicax|Perspicax]] ([[User talk:Perspicax|talk]]) 17:37, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge''' per nom. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 22:27, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:British scribes ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''keep'''. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> <b style="font-family:Courier New;">[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/him) 01:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:British scribes]] to [[:Category:English scribes]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' These are medieval scribes; "British" is nonsensically anachronistic here. They are not referred to as "British" in academic literature (the equivalent word would be "Insular"). As an example, see [https://www.medievalscribes.com/ this website]. [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 07:46, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
::I notice after nominating that there are actually two modern scribes in here. These shouldn't share a category; they are fundamentally not the same thing. [[Patricia Lovett]] in particular is best described as a calligrapher. -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 07:56, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
:::'''Alternative'''. I've created a child category which should solve the problem.[[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 14:41, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
::::Also I have restored the british writers parent category. Removing it is unhelpful as it isolates the category from the entire British people by occupation tree. [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 14:43, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Smasongarrison|Smasongarrison]] These people aren't writers, as a category. If it isolates the category from the British people by occupation tree to remove that category, the sensible solution is to add "British scribes" to "British people by occupation", not to miscategorize it. -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 16:41, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::And yet, you reverted my change [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Category:British_scribes&diff=prev&oldid=1203802750] and did not add the "sensible solution". I have added it, but my advice to you is to make categories more helpful rather than less helpful. [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 21:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Smasongarrison|Smasongarrison]] You can look at the time stamps on these and clearly see that the revert came before the comment here; I hadn't read your comment when I made the revert, and your edit summary did not make the reason for your objection clear. It would be very helpful if you would use pings when replying. -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 00:57, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
* This discussion is moot after [[:Category:English scribes]] has been created. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 22:26, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{yo|Smasongarrison|Asilvering}} am I good to close this as keep? <b style="font-family:Courier New;">[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/him) 20:54, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
*:yep [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 00:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:Korean false documents ====
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:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Korean false documents]] to [[:Category:Korean-language documents considered to be forgeries]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Also see {{cl|Japanese false documents}}, both created by [[User:Invokingvajras]]. I'm not sure what name is appropriate for this cat, or if it should even exist. I don't know if claiming "false" is appropriate on Wikipedia, it implies we're passing judgement on what's true and isn't. Open to suggestions. We should also probably take the same action for this as we should the one for the Japanese document category. [[User:Toobigtokale|toobigtokale]] ([[User talk:Toobigtokale|talk]]) 06:03, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge'''' to [[:Category:Document forgeries]]. The third article may well be purged and the category does not need to exist for just two articles. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:44, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
*:I'm ok with that [[User:Toobigtokale|toobigtokale]] ([[User talk:Toobigtokale|talk]]) 09:08, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:Victims in the United States ====
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:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Victims in the United States}}
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Crime victims by country}}
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Victims by country]] to [[:Category:People by country]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' There 's only one "Victims in Foo" category, and it's not helpful for navigation because it combines people who were murdered with people who died in aviation accidents. If kept it needs to be a contain category, as being a victim isn't defining by itself. [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 05:36, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Delete''', or possibly turn the first and third into disambiguation pages, per nom. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:46, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:African victims of crime ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' '''merge'''<!-- Template:Cfd top --> <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> <b style="font-family:Courier New;">[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;he/him) 20:48, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:African victims of crime]] to [[:Category:African people]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Upmerge. There's no need to have a category with only one category in it. Upmerge for now [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 05:34, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge''' per nom. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:48, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:Breitbart London ====
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:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Breitbart London]] to [[:Category:Breitbart News people]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Upmerge for now. This distinction isn't helpful for navigation. There are only two people in this category. [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 05:27, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge for now''', without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:51, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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====Category:Frederick Lions football players====
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==== Category:Alaska Nanooks football ====
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:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Alaska Nanooks football]] to [[:Category:Alaska Nanooks]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Only one page in category. [[User:Let&#39;srun|Let&#39;srun]] ([[User talk:Let&#39;srun|talk]]) 03:04, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge''' per nom. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:55, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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==== Category:Coroners of New York County, New York ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' '''Merge''' [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 03:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)<!-- Template:Cfd top -->
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Coroners of New York County, New York]] to [[:Category:Coroners of New York City]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Upmerge this category. There's not need to diffuse by county yet. [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 17:27, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' Coroner of New York City didn't become a title until the merging of the five boroughs in 1899. Coroners are a county position. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:85:c482:47a0:41f4:7334:858a:c8c1|2601:85:c482:47a0:41f4:7334:858a:c8c1]] ([[User talk:2601:85:c482:47a0:41f4:7334:858a:c8c1#top|talk]]) 21:00, 28 January 2024 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xsign -->
* '''Merge''' per nom. [[User:Omnis Scientia|Omnis Scientia]] ([[User talk:Omnis Scientia|talk]]) 19:30, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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====Category:Local elections in Tanzania====
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==== Category:Tile sets of gigapixel images from Google Arts & Culture ====
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:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Tile sets of gigapixel images from Google Arts & Culture]] to [[:Category:Gigapixel images from Google Arts & Culture]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Upmerge for now. This category only has one category in it, which isn't helpful for navigation. (Also the non-merge parent category [[:Cateogry:Tile sets]] only has this category in it). [[User:Smasongarrison|Mason]] ([[User talk:Smasongarrison|talk]]) 01:11, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Merge''' per nom. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:58, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
*:'''Merge''' per nom. [[User:Let&#39;srun|Let&#39;srun]] ([[User talk:Let&#39;srun|talk]]) 14:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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