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* '''[[:Robert Uhlmann (media executive)]]''' – Recreation permitted. – [[User:Spartaz|Spartaz]] <sup>''[[User talk:Spartaz|Humbug!]]''</sup> 18:38, 19 October 2013 (UTC) <!--*-->
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Was deleted by consensus because it appeared to fail WP:BIO. However the discussion didn't challenge the title. Based on [[WP:BIO]] he should rather be classified as a [[WP:COMPOSER]] since he has been credited for music and/or writing for a writer for 25 songs <ref>http://hitparade.ch/showperson.asp?name=Robert+Uhlmann&order=year</ref>, is credited for three singles featured on the album [[Rice & Curry]] that topped the Swedish chart and came second on the Norwegian and Finnish charts 1998<ref>[[Rice & Curry]]</ref> and also co-produced the Swedish entry to the [[Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2010]] "Allt jag vill ha" that was performed by [[Josefine Ridell]].<ref>{{cite web|author=Niklas Kjellberg/TT Spektra |url=http://www.gp.se/kulturnoje/1.459519-josefine-tavlar-for-sverige-i-minsk |title=Josefine tävlar för Sverige i Minsk – Kultur & Nöje |language=sv |publisher=www.gp.se |date= |accessdate=2012-01-14}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://esckaz.com/jesc/2010/swe.htm |title=Sweden JESC 2010 Швеция Детское Евровидение 2010 |publisher=Esckaz.com |date= |accessdate=2012-01-14}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.escsweden.com/junior.htm |title=junior/lilla mf/mgp nordic |publisher=escsweden.com |date= |accessdate=2012-01-14}}</ref> I suggest he should be listed as a producer/song writer according to [[WP:COMPOSER]] instead of deletion. {{reflist}} --[[User:Rutberg|Rutberg]] [[User:Rutberg|Rutberg]] ([[User talk:Rutberg|talk]]) 13:38, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

:Has he produced any notable compositions?--<span style="background:#FF0;font-family:Rockwell Extra Bold">[[User:Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">Laun</span>]][[User talk:Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">chba</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">ller</span>]]</span> 15:19, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
:: Most notable composition, disregarding earlier mention of his involvement in the Swedish contribution to the [[Junior Eurovision Song Contest]], would be the credit for music/lyrics for [[Calcutta (Taxi Taxi Taxi)]]  that launched [[Jonny Jakobsen]]'s career, selling Platinum in Sweden and Norway<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonny_Jakobsen#cite_note-Sweden.27s_certification-database_1987-1998-7</ref>, placing him on the singles chart for 26 weeks, where as 9 weeks as no. 1<ref>http://swedishcharts.com/showitem.asp?interpret=Dr%2E+Bombay&titel=Calcutta+%28Taxi%2C+Taxi%2C+Taxi%29&cat=s</ref><ref>http://swedishcharts.com/showitem.asp?interpret=Dr%2E+Bombay&titel=Calcutta+%28Taxi%2C+Taxi%2C+Taxi%29&cat=s</ref> on the [[Swedish Singles Chart]] during 1998. --[[User:Rutberg|Rutberg]] ([[User talk:Rutberg|talk]]) 14:55, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
:::I can't say I agree, but that is enough per [[WP:COMPOSER]].--<span style="background:#FF0;font-family:Rockwell Extra Bold">[[User:Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">Laun</span>]][[User talk:Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">chba</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Launchballer|<span style="color:#00F;">ller</span>]]</span> 15:10, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
::::[[WP:COMPOSER]] doesn't trump [[WP:BIO]] and [[WP:GNG]]. To create an article we need sources about him, not just to be able to verify that he composed some music. [[User:Smartse|SmartSE]] ([[User talk:Smartse|talk]]) 23:07, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::I've collected a number of sources that are located in a digital library ([[Retriever (media monitoring)]]). The links are available for 30 days from this date
:::::: * [[Kvällsposten]]: ''"You have written the song together with, among others Robert Uhlmann, who is not is a junior Member in this kind of context. - He is also Malmö Composer and producer. In fact, we have our respective studios next to each other here in Malmö. He has worked with everyone from Dr. Bombay and Smile.dk to Basshunter and Arash. In any case, he and Niklas Edberger made the song with me."''<ref>http://web.retriever-info.com/go/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.retriever-info.com%2Fservices%2Farchive.html%3Fmethod%3DdisplayDocument&a=24564&d=050911201201198504336&i=0&sa=2010058&t=1381823300&x=3496822f4f165a11ee14634159c5190c</ref>
:::::: * [[Expressen]]: ''"Uhlmann have previously shown to be able to balance the delicate line between humor and serious pop craftmanship. Dr. Bombay is one of his projects. Victoria Silvstedt another. Swing Sisters with "Calling disappeared '- the story of an astronaut who gets lost in space - beds for the Eurovision Song Contest's first cartoon-song.''''<ref>http://web.retriever-info.com/go/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.retriever-info.com%2Fservices%2Farchive.html%3Fmethod%3DdisplayDocument&a=24564&d=050910200001222760782&i=0&sa=2010058&t=1381823300&x=44f418e53af26cf9d72ded32a8fac97f</ref>
:::::: * [[Sydsvenskan]]: ''"Behind the singers are seven authors - Johan Bejerholm and Robert Uhlmann are two of them. Both came home to Malmö from Moscow on Sunday night. And even if they thought the Eurovision Song Contest was overwhelming they do not look particularly worn out. They are happy for third place and think it's great that they helped put Azerbaijan on the map - a country that is otherwise rather unknown they mean."'' <ref>http://www.sydsvenskan.se/kultur--nojen/latskrivarna-glads-med-azerbajdzjan/</ref>
:::::Please let me know if I should supply more sources --[[User:Rutberg|Rutberg]] ([[User talk:Rutberg|talk]]) 08:15, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
*It's marginal, and this isn't the most notable person in the world, but I'm leaning towards '''allow recreation''' on the basis of the sources presented.—[[User:S Marshall|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:maroon;">'''S Marshall'''</span>]] <small>[[User talk:S Marshall|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/S Marshall|C]]</small> 19:06, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
*'''Allow recreation''' - From Wikipedia's perspective, what Robert Uhlmann is whatever a summary of the collective of information says he is. Writing a Wikipedia article is simply is a matter of gathering all your research material at one time and then summarizing it without a preconceived approach to where it should lead. There is a sufficient amount of source material on Uhlmann in the Kansas City Star archives[http://www.kansascity.com/archives/] (search "Robert Uhlmann").  Also see
:* {{Citation |author= Jennifer Mann Fuller |publication-date= April 23, 1996 |title= Riding the airwaves to success Robert Uhlmann makes the most of technology for tracking the music. |publisher= [[Kansas City Star]] |page= D7}} (all about Uhlmann)
:* {{Citation |author= Jennifer Mann Fuller |publication-date= November 4, 1996 |title= Big guns rely on ad tracker KC company keeps an eye on campaigners' messages. |publisher= [[Kansas City Star]] |page= A1}} (a quarter about Uhlmann)
:* {{Citation |author= |publication-date= May 29, 1999 |title= Airplay-Detection Field Heats Up With Introduction Of New Service|volume=111|issue=22 |publisher= [[Billboard]] |page= 87|url= |accessdate=}} (some info on Uhlmann)
:* Uhlmann appears to have been involved in a 1996-1997 Kansas City Star widely covered land use dispute with Kansas City, from which there may be biography information for the article.
:The deleted article has other sources from which material can be drawn for the article and there may be additional information in books or magazines. Before you post the article, gather all your source material, then summarize it, using [[template:citation]] for each reference. Again, summarize the source material, don't pick through it to only find producer or composer information. Post all the life event information you find on his and others will come by and edit/revise to improve. The original article suffered from being written in a list format that would have been better presented using [[Template:Prose|prose]]. I suggest avoiding a list format for the article as well. -- [[User:Jreferee|Jreferee]] ([[User talk:Jreferee|talk]]) 14:02, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

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