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= October 23 =

== considering a page about a comedian ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
Can we have a page for Soul Joel Comedian? There are various other entertainers that have a page. Please let me know!

Thank you!

Danielle Wagoner  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Souljoelproductions|Souljoelproductions]] ([[User talk:Souljoelproductions|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Souljoelproductions|contribs]]) 00:33, 23 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:You can add the name to [[Wikipedia:Requested articles]], although be warned that that page has years worth of backlog. If you think Joel is [[WP:N|notable]], though (i.e. he has been covered in multiple [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], such as newspapers or magazines), you can be bold and create the article yourself. Please read [[Wikipedia:Your first article]] before doing so, and good luck! [[User:Someguy1221|Someguy1221]] ([[User talk:Someguy1221|talk]]) 01:13, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

::Please read [[WP:COI|Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest]] guidelines before creating it.--[[User:Unionhawk|Unionhawk]] <sup>[[User talk:Unionhawk|Talk]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:EmailUser/Unionhawk|E-mail]]</sup> <sup>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Unionhawk (2)|Review]]</sup> 12:40, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== Microphone age determination by serial number / manufacturer ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
is there a way I can determine the age of my Neumann U87 Ai ni large diagphram condenser microphone?
SNo.  88933
Thank you kindly
Dan  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/96.53.223.71|96.53.223.71]] ([[User talk:96.53.223.71|talk]]) 00:51, 23 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:[[Image:P question.svg|20px]] '''This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous|Miscellaneous reference desk]]'''.  They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try {{Google wikipedia||searching Wikipedia}} for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps.<!-- Template:HD --> [[User:Someguy1221|Someguy1221]] ([[User talk:Someguy1221|talk]]) 01:09, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

==Images from a webiste==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
I asked this question on another page and got no response so I though I would try here.

Hi. I was wondering if I could upload images from a website under these [http://www.heritage.nsw.gov.au/terms_01.htm] terms and conditions as non free images. The photos cannot be replaced as the sight is now buried making it impossible for me to take my own photos of it. There are schematics of the site and some historical artwork that I would like to us as well. The images come from this [http://www.heritage.nsw.gov.au/07_subnav_02_2.cfm?itemid=5056455] page in the website and are located towards the bottom of it. If the sight is ever excavated I would simply take my own and use those. Cheers.  [[User:Adam.J.W.C.|***Adam***]] ([[User talk:Adam.J.W.C.|talk]]) 01:19, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:No, you can't use them. As the page says, they can be used only for "personal, in-house or non-commercial use". Images uploaded here (unless they are fair use) or at Commons must be free, and that means they should be able to be used for commercial purposes as well. Our policy is that there can be no "restrictions on the right to redistribute, study, modify and improve, and otherwise use the works for any purpose in any medium, even commercially". See [[Wikipedia:Non-free content]]. ≈&nbsp;[[User:Chamal_N|'''C'''hamal]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Chamal_N|<sup><span style="color:#BDB76B;">talk</span></sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Chamal_N|¤]] 02:06, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::I apologize if I am misinterpreting the [[WP:FUI|Fair-use guidelines]], but it seems I have to disagree. [[WP:FUI#Images]] clearly states that images "...with iconic status or historical importance: As subjects of commentary." and which cannot reasonably be replaced with a free images are acceptable. Likewise, [[WP:FUI#Explanation of policy and guidelines]] states that "There are some works, such as important photographs, significant modern artworks, that we cannot realistically expect to be released under a free content license, but that are hard to discuss in an educational context without including examples from the media itself.", and on [[:meta:Images on Wikipedia]], it is stated clearly that on en.wikipedia, images under the category "N[on]C[ommercial]/Permission" can be used as fair use. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Intelligentsium/Sandbox|<span style="color:#013220">Intelligent</span>]]'''[[User_talk:Intelligentsium|<span style="color:Black">sium</span>]]'''</span><sup>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Intelligentsium|review]]</sup> 02:26, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:::My apologies; I've misread the question. I thought Adam was asking about uploading them as free images. As Intelligentsium says, such images can be uploaded as fair use images. I'm not sure if the images in that website have a historical value that would justify using them as fair use though. Can't a photograph of these places and objects be obtained by anyone? ≈&nbsp;[[User:Chamal_N|'''C'''hamal]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Chamal_N|<sup><span style="color:#808000;">talk</span></sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Chamal_N|¤]] 02:37, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your comments. At present it is physically impossible to go out there and take photos as the sight has been buried under a soccer field. The pictures that I would like to use are of the excavation of the sight. Soon after the sight was dug up it was buried once again. There are some plans that were drawn up of the sight as well that I would like to use in the article. [[User:Adam.J.W.C.|***Adam***]] ([[User talk:Adam.J.W.C.|talk]]) 05:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== Please help ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
Hi,


I work for an organization that does not have a Wiki page yet. I tried submitting entries about the owner and the company itself but then again, they always get deleted even after editing the page.

Any advice?

Thanks  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/202.138.169.172|202.138.169.172]] ([[User talk:202.138.169.172|talk]]) 02:34, 23 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:The best advise is [[WP:COI|not to edit pages about your own self or company]]. When writing an article about your own company, it's very easy to insert your own bias into the article, making it come off as an [[WP:ADVERT|advertisement]], which will lead to its deletion. Additionally, it's very easy to overlook the fact that your company doesn't pass Wikipedia's [[WP:N|notability guideline]] (if that's the case). If the company is truly notable, someone else will probably write about it in time. If you choose to disregard everything I've written up to this point, the best additional advise is to find [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] (usually newspaper or magazine articles) that discuss the company in detail, and write the article based on what a person could read from those sources. If an article on a company doesn't cite any such sources, and no one else can find any, it is very likely to be deleted. [[User:Someguy1221|Someguy1221]] ([[User talk:Someguy1221|talk]]) 02:38, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


::What is the reason given for it being deleted? Obviously that reason is what should be addressed. [[User:Bus stop|Bus stop]] ([[User talk:Bus stop|talk]]) 02:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:::What is the name of the organization? Do you have an [[WP:ACCOUNT|account]]? Did you read these pages:
:::*[[Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations]]
:::*[[Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?]]
:::--[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 03:14, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


By the way, this site is called ''Wikipedia'', [[Wikipedia:Don't abbreviate Wikipedia as Wiki|not ''wiki'']]. A wiki is any website using [[wiki]] software; there are thousands of them.<!-- Template:Notwiki -->

[[User:Ojay123|<span style="color:#008000">Ojay123</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Ojay123|Talk]]&bull;[[Special:EmailUser/Ojay123|E-Mail]]&bull;[[Special:Contributions/Ojay123|Contribs]]&bull;[[User:Ojay123/Sandbox|Sandbox]])(Respond on my talk page!</sup> 20:58, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

== archive bot ==
{{resolved}}

Would someone please have a quick look at this [[User_talk:Sir_Floyd]] archive bot I added for a User, it appears to be archiving itself? [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 03:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:I think that was because the bot archiving instructions were under a level 2 header, so the bot simply then regarded it as part of a conversation thread that needed to be archived.  Looking at the bot's instruction page, its default setting is not to archive anything before a level 2 header, but everything thereafter if more than x hours old; at present, the conversation before the "Extra work on an article" header (the first level 2 header on the page) will not be archived. [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 06:02, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, I see now. Thank you v much. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 12:13, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== Who can submit articles? ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
Who can submit articles?  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Autrad|Autrad]] ([[User talk:Autrad|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Autrad|contribs]]) 04:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Anyone, as long as you have a registered account. This is the "free encyclopedia that anyone can edit". See [[Wikipedia:Your first article]] for details. ≈&nbsp;[[User:Chamal_N|'''C'''hamal]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Chamal_N|<sup><span style="color:#5F9EA0;">talk</span></sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Chamal_N|¤]] 05:33, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== montana sextet ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
I wrote a page yesterday about the montana sextet, a band, but it didn't work - what did I do wrong?  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Fish4Trees|Fish4Trees]] ([[User talk:Fish4Trees|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fish4Trees|contribs]]) 08:49, 23 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Do you mean [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=New_article_name_here_montana_sextet&oldid=321228812 this] page? {{user|WikiDan61}} [[Help:Redirect|redirected]] the page to [[Vincent Montana, Jr.]] <span style="font-size:medium; font-family:monospace, monospace;">'''[[User:Goodraise|<span style="color:#2E2E2E;">Good</span>]][[User talk:Goodraise|<span style="color:#2E2E2E;">raise</span>]]'''</span> 08:55, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

::I have nominated the redirect page at [[New article name here montana sextet]] for speedy deletion as an implausible typo, but created a redirect at [[Montana Sextet]].&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 14:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't understand; where is the page I wrote?

== Out of date, much? ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
This article (([[History of the Cabinet of the United Kingdom]] is a bit out of date, wouldn't you say?  There's plenty of existing articles on the various cabinets of each Prime Minister, why is this one not merged or deleted?  [[Special:Contributions/80.193.130.5|80.193.130.5]] ([[User talk:80.193.130.5|talk]]) 12:11, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:The help desk is for asking questions about ''how to use'' Wikipedia, if you would like some advice on how to set about starting a discussion regarding the article, then we will be happy to provide some information on that (just ask), but the help desk isn't the place for discussing content. I suggest you try the [[Talk:History of the Cabinet of the United Kingdom|article talk page]] if you want the article to be [[WP:MERGE|merged]] or if you think the article should be deleted take it to [[WP:AFD]], kind regards [[User:Spitfire|Spitfire]]<sup>[[User talk:Spitfire|Tally-ho!]]</sup> 12:27, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:Thank you for spotting that, and you're welcome to fix it. As it says at the main page, this is the "free encyclopedia that anyone can edit", and we are all volunteers here after all. ≈&nbsp;[[User:Chamal_N|'''C'''hamal]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Chamal_N|<sup><span style="color:#8B008B;">talk</span></sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Chamal_N|¤]] 12:33, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:: [[WP:SOFIXIT|Then Fix it]].  Wikipedia is always a [[WP:WIP|work in progress]] which means that at any given time an article can be out of date or incorrect; 

:: If the information in this article accessibly documented somewhere on wikipedia then redirect the page to point there - otherwise update the article to reflect the latest information. I tagged it as out of date and dropped a note at [[Wikipedia talk:UK Wikipedians' notice board|the UK wikipedians noticeboard]], so perhaps another editor will take this one up sometime soon.  [[User:Excirial|<span style="color:#191970;">'''Excirial'''</span>]]<sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contact me</span>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contribs</span>]])</sup> 12:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

==Adding Info==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
hi, i would like to add an image of a person on his wiki page....there isn't one there now.
how to do this? 

thanks...
bina  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Binapaul|Binapaul]] ([[User talk:Binapaul|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Binapaul|contribs]]) 13:18, 23 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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:Before creating an article, please [[Wikipedia:Searching|search]] Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not ''already exist'' on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain [[Wikipedia:No original research|original research]], must be written from a [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view]], should [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|cite]] [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] which [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verify]] their content and must not contain [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons|unsourced, negative content about living people]]. 

:Articles must also demonstrate the [[Wikipedia:Notability|notability]] of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for [[Wikipedia:Notability (people)|people]], [[Wikipedia:Notability (music)|bands and musicians]], [[Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)|companies and organizations]] and [[Wikipedia:Notability (web)|web content]] and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest|conflict of interest guideline]] strongly recommends against ''you'' creating the article.

:If you still think an article is appropriate, see [[Wikipedia:Your first article]]. You might also look at [[Wikipedia:How to write a great article]] for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the [[Wikipedia:Tutorial]] so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An [[Wikipedia:Article wizard 2.0|Article Wizard]] is available to walk you through creating an article.<!-- Template:Creation --> [[User:Tnxman307|<span style="color:darkorange;">TN</span>]][[User talk:Tnxman307|<b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b>]][[Special:Contributions/Tnxman307|<span style="color:red;">Man</span>]] 13:20, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:: First, you must upload the file trough [[WP:UPLOAD]]. Note that this may NOT be a copyrighted work incompatile with usage permitted under [[CC-BY-SA 3.0]]. Once you have done so, you can use <nowiki>[[File:Example.jpg]]</nowiki> to place an image inside an article. Of course, Example.Jpg i replaced with the images file name. More information regarding the options images have can be found under [[Wikipedia:IMAGE]]. [[User:Excirial|<span style="color:#191970;">'''Excirial'''</span>]]<sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contact me</span>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contribs</span>]])</sup> 13:28, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


By the way, this site is called ''Wikipedia'', [[Wikipedia:Don't abbreviate Wikipedia as Wiki|not ''wiki'']]. A wiki is any website using [[wiki]] software; there are thousands of them.<!-- Template:Notwiki -->

[[User:Ojay123|<span style="color:#008000">Ojay123</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Ojay123|Talk]]&bull;[[Special:EmailUser/Ojay123|E-Mail]]&bull;[[Special:Contributions/Ojay123|Contribs]]&bull;[[User:Ojay123/Sandbox|Sandbox]])(Respond on my talk page!</sup> 20:59, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

== Question ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
Is Kyran Chesney, formerly a Fox News weekend reporter, still actively employed in the TV news realm.  Her husband, Chris Knowles was/is a weather reporter. <Personal information removed> <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.192.148.248|76.192.148.248]] ([[User talk:76.192.148.248|talk]]) 14:12, 23 October 2009 (UTC)</span>

: [[File:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] '''This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the [[Wikipedia:Reference desk|Reference desk]]'''.  They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try {{Google Wikipedia||searching Wikipedia}} for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps.<!-- Template:HD/rd --> [[User:Excirial|<span style="color:#191970;">'''Excirial'''</span>]]<sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contact me</span>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contribs</span>]])</sup> 14:33, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:: {{RD3|Fox News Channel}} -- '''[[User:Phantomsteve|<span style="color:#307D7E;">Phantom</span><span style="color:#55CAFA;">Steve</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Phantomsteve|<span style="color:#307D7E;">Contact Me</span>]], [[Special:Contributions/Phantomsteve|<span style="color:#5599FA;">My Contribs</span>]]) 15:01, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== New page question ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
I recently began a page entitled [[Muqaddimah ibn al-Salah - Introduction to the Science of Hadith]] which can be found via links, but does not show up entering it into the box above and pressing go. In fact, it does not even show up in a search. Did I do something wrong (apart from the possible mistake of naming an article by a transliterated title or giving it such a long title). Thanks. [[User:Supertouch|Supertouch]] ([[User talk:Supertouch|talk]]) 15:51, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:It works for me if I search for the title.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 15:55, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:: Confirmed as working for me - both when searching and pressing go. Are you certain you didn't misspell the search term? [[User:Excirial|<span style="color:#191970;">'''Excirial'''</span>]]<sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contact me</span>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contribs</span>]])</sup> 15:56, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:::Perhaps there is something wrong with my computer? I actually cut and pasted the entire title and still nothing... strange. [[User:Supertouch|Supertouch]] ([[User talk:Supertouch|talk]]) 16:13, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:::: Does the search work if you try looking for another page? What do you see exactly if you search for your artilce (IE: "No results matching your query", a completely empty search page, or something else?) And last, did you [[WP:REFRESH|refresh your browser cache]]? [[User:Excirial|<span style="color:#191970;">'''Excirial'''</span>]]<sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contact me</span>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contribs</span>]])</sup> 16:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)\

:::::A [[WP:PURGE|server purge]] wouldn't hurt either.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 16:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:The "Go" button works for me but "Search" does not. This is a sign that Wikipedia's search function has not indexed the page yet - at least not for me. It can take a few days. The "Go" button should work right away but only if you enter the full exact title (except capitalization can be different) "Muqaddimah ibn al-Salah - Introduction to the Science of Hadith". [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 17:39, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

When I typed in the FULL title it worked, I must have had a typo. Thanks. [[User:Supertouch|Supertouch]] ([[User talk:Supertouch|talk]]) 18:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:Problem solved, apparently the page has been indexed, thanks to whoever responded. [[User:Supertouch|Supertouch]] ([[User talk:Supertouch|talk]])

== [[Harriet Christian]] ==
{{resolved|Forwarded to AFD [[User:Excirial|<span style="color:#191970;">'''Excirial'''</span>]]<sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contact me</span>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contribs</span>]])</sup> 17:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)}}
The above article was newly created a few minutes ago, and after cleaning it up and referencing it i find myself unable to determine what to do with it. The article seems to meet [[WP:N|notability]] guidelines due to coverage, which means that i can also [[WP:V|verify]] the claims made. 

However at the same time i wonder if this article is warranted trough [[WP:BLP1E]] and [[WP:NOTNEWS]]. Part of me think the event is only so marginally notable this does in no way warrant a biographical article. Another option would to integrate this [[2008 Democratic National Convention]] but this sounds so frivolous in relation to that article that i keep wondering if this should simply be removed - yet the coverage is much more extensive then anything some of the half-baked bands need for an article. Any thoughts on wether this should be kept, changed, or just AFD'ed? [[User:Excirial|<span style="color:#191970;">'''Excirial'''</span>]]<sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contact me</span>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contribs</span>]])</sup> 16:10, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:Send to Afd as a BLP1E - want me to do it?&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 16:46, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:: Done. Thanks for the input. [[User:Excirial|<span style="color:#191970;">'''Excirial'''</span>]]<sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contact me</span>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contribs</span>]])</sup> 17:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== how do I contact a contributor? ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
How do I contact a contributor?  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Andy schw|Andy schw]] ([[User talk:Andy schw|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Andy schw|contribs]]) 17:10, 23 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Leave a message on their [[WP:User talk|user talk page]].&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 17:16, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== Hiding the references ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
I vaguely remember seeing pages with tons of cited references that have compressed or collapsed the references so that the page isn't ridiculously long.  Most clearly in my mind is a section that displays only a small part of the references but can be scrolled up and down to see the rest, although I suspect that I've seen a collapsible reference section.  How is this done? [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 18:32, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:I've seen that used on [[wikia]] sites, but never on wikipedia, I don't think its done here. Cheers [[User:Spitfire|Spitfire]]<sup>[[User talk:Spitfire|Tally-ho!]]</sup> 18:37, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:: It could be accomplished using {{tl|Collapse top}} and {{tl|Collapse bottom}}, though any such change would need to be supported by consensus and also the [[WP:MOS|Manual of Style]].  The solution I've given actually causes more problems than it solves, as ref links are broken while the list is collapsed. <span style="font-family: fontin, serif;">[[User:AJCham|<span style="color: #003300;">'''AJ'''</span>]][[User talk:AJCham|<span style="color: #CC6600;">'''Cham'''</span>]]</span> 18:47, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:::If you mean something like [[WP:SDYK]], then the answer is that doing so is against the MOS, and deprecated, per [[WP:NOTPAPER]]. [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 20:22, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

::The applicable guidelines are at [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Scrolling lists]] and [[Wikipedia:Accessibility#Scrolling and collapsible sections]]. The links between the inline cite and the reference do not work with a collapsed box. You can hide the reference list with [[User:Drilnoth/hiderefs.js]], fold it with [[User:TheDJ/foldrefs.js]] or remove it altogether with some CSS. I fail to imagine that a long reference list is really a problem. ---'''''—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<span style="color:gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</span>]]<span style="color:darkblue">&nbsp;</span>'''''<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup> 20:33, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm asking because of [[User:Nyttend/RA|this]] page in my userspace: I'm copying individual lines — most of which have references — from many tables, and although the page isn't much more than half complete, the references section is getting absurdly long.  I know that I could delete the references, but I've kept them because the page is meant to keep track of the state of the original tables, and deleting the references would make it harder to keep track.  Since I don't plan to move this list into mainspace, I don't care about the MOS, and breaking ref links really doesn't matter to me here.  [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 23:24, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::::I've used the collapse templates, and all works fine.  Thanks!  [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 23:27, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== Main page ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
I am working on a grouping of articles which are very intertwined. They are separate pages for the obvious reason of brevity, however, due to this there is repetetion on some of these pages. I am working if, as perhaps a temporary quick fix if there is a precedent for cutting and pasting the intro paragraph of a page being introduced on one page as a heading (and referred to as Main page)? I suppose it would be better to at least rephrase the intro paragraphs as necessary...??? I think I may have just answered my own question, but I am still interested in hearing any responses. [[User:Supertouch|Supertouch]] ([[User talk:Supertouch|talk]]) 18:35, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:There is a template called {{tl|main}} that adds a discrete little header.  You can see it in use in today's featured article [[Scattered_disc#Subdivisions_of_trans-Neptunian_space|here]].  Use this at the top of section that is a summary of a longer and more detailed article.  Also see [[WP:SUMMARY]] for what to do with these intro paragraphs and summary sections.  Hope this helps. &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 19:00, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

: The best solution always depends upon the situation; Since i don't know the situation here are some general examples.

:# One solution is to simply link an article in case an explanation is needed. For example: "NTFS is the standard [[file system]] of Windows NT". If a user doesn't know anything about a file system they can check the respective topic by clicking the link. 
:# A second solution is to create the main / sub article structure. For example, take the [[World War II]] article. The section named background gives sufficient information to understand the topic, but doesn't give each and every detail as that is not relevant in this case. Instead, it points the user to [[Causes of World War II]] for a more extensive analysis. Note that this is only done because the discussion is notable as a separate topic.
:# The last is not a solution, but a self check. Did you really create a correct article grouping? If a (Very) large section of an article is little more then a copy of another topic's information it is often better to merge the two articles. 
: Hope this helps. [[User:Excirial|<span style="color:#191970;">'''Excirial'''</span>]]<sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contact me</span>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contribs</span>]])</sup> 19:09, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

::I appreciate the comments, the link to [[WP:SUMMARY]] was helpful. I still have two specific questions that I don't see answered on that page.
# Regarding references: If I am summarizing a well-referenced main page, must I mention those references from the main page in the summary? The difficulty I am having is that it is somewhat difficult to add references to general concepts that may be the product of numerous sources. It seems that linking to the main page would be sufficient - as a "summary" suggests that the nuts and bolts research will be found on that main page.
# I suppose this question is at least somewhat born of laziness on my part. If the introduction (whether a paragraph or more) would be an appropriate summary (which is what an intro is in reality) can we simply copy that intro from the main page and paste in the place of the summary. It seems that this would not constitute "theft" as this would be rather obvious to the reader. [[User:Supertouch|Supertouch]] ([[User talk:Supertouch|talk]]) 23:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

== Convert MPH to km/h ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
I saw an infobox on [[Suzuki Hayabusa]], in which the speed in miles is converted to kilometers per hour. In the article, it's 190 MPH and 306 kms/h, which is correct to my knowledge. In the infobox however, it is 310 kms/h. Could this be fixed? Kind regards, [[User:Vinvlugt|Vinvlugt]] ([[User talk:Vinvlugt|talk]]) 20:04, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

: {{done}} - While i didn't decipher the entire convert template, i assume the function was rounding the number up. [[User:Excirial|<span style="color:#191970;">'''Excirial'''</span>]]<sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contact me</span>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contribs</span>]])</sup> 20:15, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::Nice, thanx! [[User:Vinvlugt|Vinvlugt]] ([[User talk:Vinvlugt|talk]]) 22:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== Where can I find information on placing links within images? ==
{{resolved|1='''[[User:Floydian|<span style="color:#5A5AC5;">ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ</span>]]'''&nbsp;[[User_talk:Floydian|<sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Floydian|<sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢</sub>]] 21:03, 23 October 2009 (UTC)}}
Title says it all. I'm looking to create an image of southern Ontario showing all its counties (Pretty much [[:File:Ontario_Locator_Map.svg]] with labels), and having it as a navigational template. I want to make it so that if someone clicks over a certain county, it takes them to the article for that county. The question is, on wikipedia, how do you define shapes in images to link...

Sorry if I've just confused you, I confuse myself sometimes. - '''[[User:Floydian|<span style="color:#5A5AC5;">ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ</span>]]'''&nbsp;[[User_talk:Floydian|<sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Floydian|<sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢</sub>]] 20:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

: What you are looking for is an [[mw:Extension:ImageMap|imagemap]]. I warn you though that not every browser supports may support these, and that they are somewhat complex to create. On top of that, i have no clue what the [[WP:MOS|MOS]] thinks of these. [[User:Excirial|<span style="color:#191970;">'''Excirial'''</span>]]<sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contact me</span>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contribs</span>]])</sup> 20:49, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::The friendly people at [[Wikipedia:Graphic Lab]] may be able to help.--<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="background:#002868;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">SPhilbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style="background:#ADD8E6;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">T</span>]]</span> 20:53, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Awesome. It seems to work on wikipedia, so I imagine its not a forbidden things to do. Any idea which browsers don't support it (Seems to work fine for me on firefox and internet explorer)? - '''[[User:Floydian|<span style="color:#5A5AC5;">ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ</span>]]'''&nbsp;[[User_talk:Floydian|<sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Floydian|<sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢</sub>]] 21:03, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::::: There is an old report of it not functioning in [[Opera (browser)|Opera]], though i do not know if it is still valid. My statement was more of a general precaution then a real show-stopper as Firefox, Chrome and Internet Explorer control roughly 95% of the market. [[User:Excirial|<span style="color:#191970;">'''Excirial'''</span>]]<sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contact me</span>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contribs</span>]])</sup> 21:13, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::I've seen clickable maps in use in many places, and never have I heard a hint that they're not permitted.  [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 23:29, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== [[T:TDYK]] ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
Scroll bars occur on the navbox when viewing the T:TDYK page for me but on no other Wikipedia page as far as I can tell; has anyone else noticed this and if this is not meant can someone fix it/tell me how? Thanks in advance :) -- [[User:Casmith_789|Casmith_789]] ([[User talk:Casmith_789|talk]]) 21:17, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:I don't see any scrollbars...perhaps it is an issue with your browser? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Intelligentsium|<span style="color:#013220">Intelligent</span>]]'''[[User_talk:Intelligentsium|<span style="color:Black">sium</span>]]'''</span><sup>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Intelligentsium|review]]</sup> 21:29, 23 October 2009 (UTC) 

: Doesn't happen for me on either [[Internet Explorer]], [[Firefox]] or [[Chrome (browser)|Chrome]]. What browser are you using? And what screen resolution do you have? Or do you use the browser in windowed mode with a small drawing area (Small window space)? [[User:Excirial|<span style="color:#191970;">'''Excirial'''</span>]]<sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contact me</span>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<span style="color:#FF8C00;">Contribs</span>]])</sup> 21:30, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::I'm using Firefox 3, screen resolution 1280x800, full screen. The issue is not that it happens on every page, more that it only happens on the T:TDYK page, and I can't tell why. -- [[User:Casmith_789|Casmith_789]] ([[User talk:Casmith_789|talk]]) 21:38, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Aha, I logged out, and it didn't show up. Must be something to do with DYK checker and my monobook. Thanks for trying to help though :) -- [[User:Casmith_789|Casmith_789]] ([[User talk:Casmith_789|talk]]) 21:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== Reporting Abuse and False Information:  Diamond Ranch Academy ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
What is the process for reporting false information?  Check the listing for Diamond Ranch Academy.  I believe it qualifies under the legal definition of slander.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.190.25.227|66.190.25.227]] ([[User talk:66.190.25.227|talk]]) 21:26, 23 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hi, you can change any false information by clicking 'edit this page'; please add your own sources and references though to show that you are right. I can't find Diamond Ranch Academy; can you remember the exact page name? Thanks! -- [[User:Casmith_789|Casmith_789]] ([[User talk:Casmith_789|talk]]) 21:29, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:We don't seem to have an article titled [[Diamond Ranch Academy]]...perhaps you meant [[Diamond Ranch High School]]? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Intelligentsium|<span style="color:#013220">Intelligent</span>]]'''[[User_talk:Intelligentsium|<span style="color:Black">sium</span>]]'''</span><sup>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Intelligentsium|review]]</sup> 21:32, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== Search option. ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}

when we type the name '''Ilyas hussain Ibrahim''' in Search option it never work again it makes to create... how can the name will work in serach option

pls check the link...  it was create but still in serach option it never work...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyas_Hussain_Ibrahim  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Inzag2009|Inzag2009]] ([[User talk:Inzag2009|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Inzag2009|contribs]]) 21:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:[[Ilyas Hussain Ibrahim]] was created recently and has not been indexed by Wikipedia's search function yet. It can take a few days. Your search "Ilyas hussain Ibrahim" has other capitalization in hussain so it's considered another page name which doesn't exist. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 21:57, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== How do I get my user page and user talk page deleted? ==
{{Resolved|1=er... I think...&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 15:29, 24 October 2009 (UTC)}}
What do I have to put on my user page and my talk page to get them deleted?

What do I have to do to get my user name deleted?

[[User:PennySeven|PennySeven]] ([[User talk:PennySeven|talk]]) 22:53, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:{{tl|db-u1}} for userpage, but user talk pages are not normally deleted.--[[User:Unionhawk|Unionhawk]] <sup>[[User talk:Unionhawk|Talk]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:EmailUser/Unionhawk|E-mail]]</sup> <sup>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Unionhawk (2)|Review]]</sup> 22:56, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

How do I get my user name deleted? [[User:PennySeven|PennySeven]] ([[User talk:PennySeven|talk]]) 22:57, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:You can't actually "delete" your user name. You may simply abandon your account if you no longer wish to edit. See [[WP:RTV]]. Regards, <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">[[User:Decltype|decltype]]</span> ([[User talk:Decltype|talk]]) 22:58, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I wish to delete my user name and edit with my IP address if I ever want to edit again. I do not want to be a sockpuppet of this current user name.[[User:PennySeven|PennySeven]] ([[User talk:PennySeven|talk]]) 23:03, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I suppose I would not be a sockpuppet as long as I never use this user name again? Is that correct?

I don´t want to be banned as an IP sockpuppet of this user name.

[[User:PennySeven|PennySeven]] ([[User talk:PennySeven|talk]]) 23:07, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

::It's really not a big deal, if you don't want to use your account anymore then just don't log in. I as well as many other Wikipedians occasionally make minor edits anonymously. <span style="font-family:Segoe Media Center">[[User:Jeffrey Mall|Jeffrey Mall]]</span> <small>([[User talk:Jeffrey Mall|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jeffrey Mall|contribs]])</small> - 23:15, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:::There's nothing wrong with editing as a sockpuppet, as long as you don't do anything that's prohibited.  Even if you did continue to edit under the account, it wouldn't be wrong for you to edit with your IP as well.  [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 23:20, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I will never edit as a sockpuppet as I do not have to. I only need one IP account for possible future edits. Too many people here don´t like this username and can not stop abusing it. It is really to stop the automatic abuse that this is necessary. 

Thanks for your help. It is strange not to get abused over here.[[User:PennySeven|PennySeven]] ([[User talk:PennySeven|talk]]) 23:31, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:I'm not sure what your concern is but note [[Wikipedia:Changing username]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 23:53, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::I would strongly advise against returning to the articles where you got into conflicts once you switch over to a new identity. &mdash;'''[[User:Akrabbim|Akrabbim]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Akrabbim|talk]]</sup> 00:00, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

I have now decided not to leave. I am not interested in deleting the user name '''PennySeven''' any more and editing with my IP address. I quite like the name '''PennySeven'''. I will stay on Wikipedia '''ONLY''' as '''PennySeven'''.

Official announcement: I have decided to stay on '''ONLY''' as '''PennySeven''' and '''NOT''' start editing with my IP address.

[[User:PennySeven|PennySeven]] ([[User talk:PennySeven|talk]]) 13:44, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

== Room divider rubbish ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
The article [[Room divider]] is mainly rubbish with lots of references. I've removed the spam but I was wondering on what basis to remove all the rest of the stuff saying it is useful in churches, it is useful in schools etc etc. Thanks [[User:Dmcq|Dmcq]] ([[User talk:Dmcq|talk]]) 23:26, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:Probably that Wikipedia is not a collection of [[WP:INDISCRIMINATE|indiscriminate information]]. [[User:Tnxman307|<span style="color:darkorange;">TN</span>]][[User talk:Tnxman307|<b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b>]][[Special:Contributions/Tnxman307|<span style="color:red;">Man</span>]] 23:38, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, I've had a good look through [[WP:ISNOT]] and I think that probably covers it. Thanks very much. [[User:Dmcq|Dmcq]] ([[User talk:Dmcq|talk]]) 10:19, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

== Caps usernames ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
To log in (with the "new" JavaScript event, even when using auto-complete), I need to use FireBug or a similar tool to reference the username input by ID and then edit the value (without triggering the event that turns it all to lower-case). If I don't do this, it will instead try to log me into the non-existent account "[[User:Score_under|score under]]" instead of "[[User:Score_Under|Score_Under]]" (as the JavaScript event transforms the text to lower-case).<br/>
[[User:Score_Under|Score_Under]] - [[User_talk:Score_Under|[talk]]] 23:26, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

:I don't know what this new JavaScript event is and I have not heard of others with problems in usernames with capitals. I never have problems. If your browser autocompletes a username without capitals then maybe you can edit the username before clicking Log in. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 01:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

== 3 Berry Blast from Orange Julius ==
{{resolved|[[User:Corruptcopper|Corruptcopper]] ([[User talk:Corruptcopper|talk]])}}
What is in a 3 berry blast (how much of each too please)
I am 33 weeks pregnant and 3 berry blast from orange julius are all i crave. I go and buy them sometimes 3 times a day. Its getting a bit crazy so i would like to know how to make my own. So please if you could let me know it would be really helpful. Thanks.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.192.27.249|99.192.27.249]] ([[User talk:99.192.27.249|talk]]) 23:51, 23 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: This page is meant for help about Wikipedia - try using Yahoo Answers or some similar service for miscellaneous questions like this. [[User:Score_Under|Score_Under]] - [[User_talk:Score_Under|[talk]]] 23:59, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:
:The help desk is for questions on how to use Wikipedia.  For {{#ifeq:{{#if:Miscellaneous|Miscellaneous-related questions|general knowledge}}|misc-related questions| questions that do not fall into any other category|{{#if:Miscellaneous|Miscellaneous-related questions|general knowledge questions}}}}, such as yours, please use the [[Wikipedia:Reference desk{{#if:Miscellaneous|/Miscellaneous}}|{{#if:Miscellaneous|Miscellaneous reference desk|reference desk}}]]. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Intelligentsium|<span style="color:#013220">Intelligent</span>]]'''[[User_talk:Intelligentsium|<span style="color:Black">sium</span>]]'''</span><sup>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Intelligentsium|review]]</sup> 01:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
:For your convenience, you can type a brief title and click ask below, which will take you to the right desk

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