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= November 4 =

== Changing "edited by (IP address)" to "edited by Adrian-from-london" ==

Hi,

I did an edit on the biofield energy healing article but didn't realise that I wasn't logged in at the time - is it possible to get the edit summary changed, or can you suggest something.

Here's the URL:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Biofield_energy_healing&oldid=394693884

Many thanks, [[User:Adrian-from-london|Adrian-from-london]] ([[User talk:Adrian-from-london|talk]]) 00:55, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:That can't be done.  I have, however, removed your IP address from the history for your privacy. [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 01:03, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:('''e/c''') You can use a [[WP:DUMMY|dummy edit]] to attribute the past edit to yourself in the edit summary. Of course, doing this you'll be publicly revealing your IP address, which not all users would want, but if your concern is taking credit rather than any privacy issue, it's  one way. We used to have the ability to reattribute revisions but not for a long time.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 01:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
::Actually the combination here of hiding the IP address with rev deletion and a dummy edit is very useful, making attribution possible without the privacy issue (well all admins and users with higher permissions would still be able to see the IP, but no one else). I'll remember this. The next time this comes up that can be given as one of the options.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 01:13, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
:::That's teamwork for you - two minds approaching the same problem from opposite directions and getting a best-of-both-worlds solution! [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 01:15, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
::::^5--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 01:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
::::^5 [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 01:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== "Dynamic"-sorting the table at [[The 100 Best Books of All Time]] ==
{{Resolved}}
I would like to use [[template:dynamic list]] to sort the table in the [[The 100 Best Books of All Time]] article.<br />
The entries under the "Author" column of that table are links to articles on authors, so are in the format "'''Firstname Lastname'''".  Is there any way to make that column sort alphabetically ''by last name''?  (Maybe biography-category articles are flagged in some way that the dynamic-list template can use for that purpose, for example?  Or could the template somehow "dynamically sort" that column according instead to some ''hidden'' column containing text in "'''Lastname, Firstname'''" format?) Thanks, [[User:WikiDao|<span style="font-family: Segoe print;color:#700;">'''Wiki'''</span><span style="font-family: Segoe print;color:#007;">'''Dao'''</span>]] &#9775; [[User talk:WikiDao|<span style="font-family: Papyrus;color:#070;">(talk)</span>]] 03:42, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
:See [[Template:Sort]] For example, replace <nowiki>[[Albert Camus]]</nowiki> with <nowiki>{{sort|Camus, Albert|[[Albert Camus]]}}</nowiki>--<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="background:#002868;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">SPhilbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style="background:#ADD8E6;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">T</span>]]</span> 13:52, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
:No, don't use {{tl|sort}} as there's a better template for just this situation.  Use {{tl|sortname}} instead, so that <nowiki>{{sortname|Albert|Camus}}</nowiki> links to {{sortname|Albert|Camus}} but sorts under "C", not "A". [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 13:55, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to be what I'm looking for! :) [[User:WikiDao|<span style="font-family: Segoe print;color:#700;">'''Wiki'''</span><span style="font-family: Segoe print;color:#007;">'''Dao'''</span>]] &#9775; [[User talk:WikiDao|<span style="font-family: Papyrus;color:#070;">(talk)</span>]] 16:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== Tracking  Appropriate Copyright Permissions For Satelite Images Taken Over Air Spaces ==

Cheers,

Itch a bit to see that the appropriate copyright permissions are taken for satelite images of air space reported, posted on or  linked to Wikipedia articles.

Please, in specific where permissions taken or are there international ratifications that allowed the images from the following: 
(Domain selection for Lagos State> GeoHack-Lagos http://toolserver.org/~geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Lagos&params=6_27_11_N_3_23_45_E_type:city(7937932)_region:NG to be taken. 

Reference to link for Domain selecction for Lagos State: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos

Hephzibah Christian Research  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/41.220.68.3|41.220.68.3]] ([[User talk:41.220.68.3|talk]]) 03:55, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I don't see any satelite photographs in the article you cite.  Could you indicate the '''specific''' image you have a question about?  --[[User:Jayron32|<span style="color:#000099;">Jayron</span>]]'''''[[User talk:Jayron32|<span style="color:#009900;">32</span>]]''''' 04:01, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== I have an account, but it probably is under a account address ==

I have an account with you, but it is probably under a different e-mail
address, user name and password than I use now.  How do I update my account to include these changes, and so you won't be able to contact me under my e-mail associated with my account, as that e-mail no longer exists.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.188.248.190|66.188.248.190]] ([[User talk:66.188.248.190|talk]]) 04:00, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:You need to log in to your account, and make the changes by clicking the "preferences" item that appears in the top-of-page menu when you log in.  The changes can only be made while you are logged in.  --[[User:Jayron32|<span style="color:#000099;">Jayron</span>]]'''''[[User talk:Jayron32|<span style="color:#009900;">32</span>]]''''' 04:03, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:I'm not completely sure what you mean but if you don't know the pasword for an account and you cannot receive email at the address stored in the account then access to the account is lost and you have to use another account. If you know the username and password of an account then you can change the email address for that account as described by Jayron32. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 04:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== Power Down Shifting ==

Hello, I recently read the article about powershifting and I have come up with a downshifting technique that would basically be called power down shifting. A quick eplanation of the technique would be keeping the right foot lightly on the accelerator and the clutch pedal is depressed briefly while the shift lever is shifted into a lower gear as the revolutions gradually rise to the proper rev match (in order to do this smoothly it takes lots of practice). I have researched it as best as I could and I am certain that no one has recorded any information on the subject or even heard of it. I would like to put this information on this site but i'm not sure how to go about it. Do I get an editor to help me make this article so it can be good enough to post? Is this technique of mine at all useful to the site? Does this technique have to have a purpose for it to be useful? Also out of curiousity if this gets posted, would it be established that I came up with the technique? Im really looking forward to your reply. Thank you  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Poules S|Poules S]] ([[User talk:Poules S|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Poules S|contribs]]) 04:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:This sounds interesting, but Wikipedia doesn't publish novel ideas.  See [[Wikipedia:No original research]].  This is one of Wikipedia's central, cornerstone policies regarding article content (the other two being [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]] and [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view]].)  What Wikipedia is for is for summarizing existing, published information from [[WP:RS|reliable sources]].  If no one else has ever published a summary of your technique, it really isn't appropriate for Wikipedia.  --[[User:Jayron32|<span style="color:#000099;">Jayron</span>]]'''''[[User talk:Jayron32|<span style="color:#009900;">32</span>]]''''' 04:49, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't thinking of a novel just a  definition identifying that this technique exsists and should be considered like other shifting techniques such as powershifting, heel-and-toe and left foot braking. I dont understand why the idea isn't appropriate for Wikipedia. Is there any way for me to get this technique on Wikipedia?   <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.230.45.251|99.230.45.251]] ([[User talk:99.230.45.251|talk]]) 09:27, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:No there isn't. The use of the word "novel" above did not refer to a fictional book of considerable length, as I think you understood it. This was novel's other meaning: "something new"; a "novel concept"; from the Latin, ''novus'', meaning new. As explained by Jayron32, Wikipedia does not publish new ideas. As an encyclopedia, we are a [[Tertiary source|type of source]] that synthesizes previously published material. We do not include new ideas unless [[WP:IRS|reliable sources]] have already been published on them out in the world, sources directly discussing the topic/idea/thing that is sought to be added. There are quite a few links in the post above and in mine but the one you should read, if no other, is '''[[Wikipedia:No original research]]'''. Thanks.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 12:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== images in categories ==

How do I transfer an image file from one commonscat to another?
[[User:Sardaka|Sardaka]] ([[User talk:Sardaka|talk]]) 09:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:Edit the file page at commons and change the category name in the wiki source. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 09:23, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== A BarrAssociation Honorable ==

Intended Recipient BarAssociation, I have a situation i have crossed on the concernity of i notified a Honorable that some one told me that they staked that person out and almost shot that person and that Honorable sent a Detective to my House the thing about it is that i told the Honorable that i was concerned and i did not want nothing to happen to that person i also added that someone had shot at me before and i did not want nothing like that to happen to that Honorable when the Detective showed up the Detective never asked me not once about my situation that had happened what should i do at this point in time.I am scared at this point in time to even verify my name at this time please leave a comment in the comment box on what i should do.Sincerely Thank You  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.183.132.153|64.183.132.153]] ([[User talk:64.183.132.153|talk]]) 09:39, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:You have asked for help at [[WP:About|Wikipedia]], an online encyclopedia. You cannot contact a Bar Association through this page.
:[[File:Legal no.png|40px]] '''We cannot offer legal advice.''' Please see [[WP:Legal disclaimer|the legal disclaimer]].  Contact your [[lawyer]].<!-- Template:HD --> -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 10:11, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== Uploading images - Prior's Field School ==

Hello. I need help with uploading 2 images please. I have taken them myself and given them a {{tl|cc-by-sa-3.0}} tag. When I tried to upload them, there was a message saying 'the file extension doesn't match the MIME type'. I have read others' comments on this: the images I am trying to upload are of Prior's Field School and an air vent. I have uploaded these previously but, because I hadn't taken the photos myself, the tag was wrong. I have called the new files something different, even though they are shots of the same things (the school and air vent) that I originally tried to show. 

Do I need to delete the old images? Can someone do this for me as I'm struggling? If the old ones are deleted, will I then be able to upload the new ones? [[User:Cghamel|Cghamel]] ([[User talk:Cghamel|talk]]) 11:36, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:(1) The message "the file extension doesn't match the MIME type" is nothing to do with any tagging/licensing issues. The software is comparing the last part of the file name ( ".jpg", ".doc" or whatever ) with the actual contents of the file, and thinks they are inconsistent. When you called the new files "something different", did you change the [[file extension]]?
:(2) The [[WP:red link|red link]]s on your talk page indicate that the old images have already been deleted. I would guess that you should be able to upload new photos to these names; but if that doesn't work then try different names. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 21:08, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== City of Vaughan - new logo ==

The logo for "City of Vaughan" has changed. You have the old logo on the wiki page about Vaughan. Please change logo to:

http://www.city.vaughan.on.ca/mediacentre/new_city_logo.cfm  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/216.208.136.194|216.208.136.194]] ([[User talk:216.208.136.194|talk]]) 13:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Working on it.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 15:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

::{{Done}}&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 15:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== Requesting edits, meeting indifference ==

Here's my situation: I'm trying to work through a possible [[WP:COI|COI]] with a particular subject. That is the [[C-SPAN]] television network; I work part-time with their communications team. I've noticed their articles fall far short of Wikipedia's standards and, so far, I've worked with input and assistance from a few other editors to fix up the [[Q&A (U.S. talk show)]] article. (Before I started, in fact, there were duplicate entries.) Then last week, [[User:WWB_Too/Booknotes|I proposed a revision]] to the article about C-SPAN's former program, [[Booknotes]], and asked for help in a few places: [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Television#Request_for_assistance_re:_C-SPAN.27s_Booknotes|WikiProject Television]], a "request edit" tag on the article's [[Talk:Booknotes|Talk page]], and I contacted two editors who had been helpful before. 

Since then, I've either received no response, or a plea of being too busy. Having carefully followed the [[WP:MOS|MOS]], and being familiar with relevant policies and guidelines,  I am very certain that my draft ([[User:WWB_Too/Booknotes|here]]) is an improvement on the current article ([[Booknotes|here]]). I am almost inclined to move it into place, as it seems that obtaining a prior thumbs up in this area seems to be prohibitively difficult. Rather than any objection or concern, I seem to be meeting indifference. If someone here is willing to look at my draft and weigh in, I'd be most appreciative. And some guidance on whether I should be a little more [[WP:BOLD|bold]], while of course disclosing my affiliation, as I look at improving other C-SPAN articles would be most appreciated. Cheers, [[User:WWB Too|WWB Too]] ([[User talk:WWB Too|talk]]) 14:48, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:I will take a look at this, could you weigh in on the problem above about the POV in the MonaVie article here. 

:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MonaVie

:The explanation of what appears to be statements not supported by the sources is in a post I made to this help section yesterday called "Serious POV in an article locked for edit warring" Thanks. [[User:DavidR2010|DavidR2010]] ([[User talk:DavidR2010|talk]]) 17:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)DavidR2010[[User:DavidR2010|DavidR2010]] ([[User talk:DavidR2010|talk]]) 17:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

::Hi there, I hope you don't mind me indenting your comment, just for ease of readibility. No offense, but I am looking for an editor with more experience than work on just the article you link here; I did have a look around, and while I don't know anything about that subject, I did notice that your first edit was to remove apparently factual, sourced (although negative) information from that article, without providing an explanation. That's rarely a good way to start, and the debate on the Talk page appears to be far too complex, not to mention far along, for me to do much good. Hope you can all come to an agreeable conclusion. [[User:WWB Too|WWB Too]] ([[User talk:WWB Too|talk]]) 17:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:::Some of the reasons you note are pretty good however I am looking to hand it over to third opinions and that you say you don't know anything about the subject I think would help us out over there. The discussion is quite long however I ask simply Could you please take a look at the statements in the lead paragraph and then check the sources of each statement and tell us if you think they are POV or not. Thanks [[User:DavidR2010|DavidR2010]] ([[User talk:DavidR2010|talk]]) 18:05, 4 November 2010 (UTC)DavidR2010[[User:DavidR2010|DavidR2010]] ([[User talk:DavidR2010|talk]]) 18:05, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

The revised article you have made on Booknotes is clearly better however even from an inexperience viewpoint I think you should go ahead and add it however you could also use the edit request template to call for an admin to add it as well. [[User:DavidR2010|DavidR2010]] ([[User talk:DavidR2010|talk]]) 18:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)DavidR2010[[User:DavidR2010|DavidR2010]] ([[User talk:DavidR2010|talk]]) 18:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks, David, I have moved it now, following further discussion there. In fact I did have a "request edit" template on the Talk page for more than a week, but it seems that those requests are being processed very slowly, if at all. As to MonaVie, here is my takeaway: the phrasing itself does appear neutral to me, although the [[WP:CITEKILL|citation overkill]] in the intro section is troubling. Of course, those are usually an artifact of edit warring; I don't know if that's what you are involved in, but the Talk page indicates that you might be. Maybe it's time for a [[WP:WIKIBREAK|Wikibreak]]? [[User:WWB Too|WWB Too]] ([[User talk:WWB Too|talk]]) 20:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

::I could use a wikibreak after the issue is resolved haha.  However from what I can see the POV of the statements in that lead article are not factual and this leads to concerns about agenda pushing and slandering companies through wikipedia (although I admit that the editors involved in the article possibly have of a lack of education on the subject). I don't understand how something can be called similar to a pyramid scam and a CEO can be accused of being involved in false claims of another product unless it was at least proven guilty of this in court. The statements in the lead make it look like the company of MonaVie itself made health claims that they got in trouble over however I cant find any evidence of that in the sources. [[User:DavidR2010|DavidR2010]] ([[User talk:DavidR2010|talk]]) 20:54, 4 November 2010 (UTC)DavidR2010[[User:DavidR2010|DavidR2010]] ([[User talk:DavidR2010|talk]]) 20:54, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, a court of law is not the standard here. The standard is whether a reliable source has asserted that MonaVie made unsubstantiated health claims. Certainly seems that the FDA has said so, and newspapers like the Palm Beach Post have so reported it. It seems to be a significant part of the company's public profile—unless there is a major misunderstanding that other sources can show, some version of that language probably does belong in the lead section. Good luck, [[User:WWB Too|WWB Too]] ([[User talk:WWB Too|talk]]) 22:27, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:There is no source that proves that MonaVie made any health claims at all that is the problem (If so what are they?). The sources refer to claims made on another website http://www.acai-berry.com/ that is not created or run by the MonaVie company. 

::The sources don't prove that the CEO of MonaVie was involved with the false health claims of another company either they just say that he left the company a year before the FDA shut it down. Is it not POV to say he was involved based on that evidence alone?

::However even more interesting to note is that Xango was warned directly by the FDA and yet all mention of that controversy remains out of the leads statements of that article. No mention of it being similar to a pyramid scheme either. Should we not add that to other MLM company articles that they are similar to a pyramid scheme if it is acceptable in the MonaVie article? Why is there so much wiki lawyering going on to preserve this POV in this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MonaVie

:Why cant we just have the truth and common sense in our articles? [[User:DavidR2010|DavidR2010]] ([[User talk:DavidR2010|talk]]) 22:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)DavidR2010[[User:DavidR2010|DavidR2010]] ([[User talk:DavidR2010|talk]]) 22:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== fraudulent amalgamation of Israel/Palestine references with Israel alone ==

Dear Sir:
There used to be a link to UN resolutions on Israel/Palestine alone; this has now been changed to be diluted with UN resolutions on Israel with all of the countries whose lands it occupies. Since the most important of these are the ongoing resolutions on its occupation of Palestine, these should remain split off from the others, which are far less relevant but which make it harder to see the Palestinian resolutions.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.29.28.51|70.29.28.51]] ([[User talk:70.29.28.51|talk]]) 15:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:The best place to discuss this would be on the talk page of the article where the change has been made.  Your preferred version seems to rest on your personal opinion of the relative importance of certain U.N. resolutions, so you may need to be prepared to back it up with citations.  Reaching consensus on issues like this involves assuming [[WP:AGF|good faith]] on the part of other contributors, so "fraudulent" is not the most helpful way to describe their actions.  [[User:Karenjc|<span style="color:red;">Ka</span>]][[User_talk:Karenjc|renjc]] 16:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== Image problem...yet again ==

Images aren't show up...once again. This it is the Flag of Ecuador that is not showing up. Why is this? <span style="font-family:Courier;">[[User:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:red;">'''Velo'''</span>]][[User talk:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:purple;">'''ciraptor'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Velociraptor888|<span style="color:green;">'''888'''</span>]]</span> 16:36, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Fixed <span style="font-family:Courier;">[[User:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:red;">'''Velo'''</span>]][[User talk:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:purple;">'''ciraptor'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Velociraptor888|<span style="color:green;">'''888'''</span>]]</span> 16:40, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Now the Flag of Liechtenstein isn't showing up. Stupid Damn servers! <span style="font-family:Courier;">[[User:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:red;">'''Velo'''</span>]][[User talk:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:purple;">'''ciraptor'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Velociraptor888|<span style="color:green;">'''888'''</span>]]</span> 16:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

This is '''extremley''' annoying! The Flag of Trinidad and Tobago is not showing up this time! We need to fix this silly problem! <span style="font-family:Courier;">[[User:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:red;">'''Velo'''</span>]][[User talk:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:purple;">'''ciraptor'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Velociraptor888|<span style="color:green;">'''888'''</span>]]</span> 16:46, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh. My. ****ing. God. This is really, ''really'', '''really''', '''''REALLY''''' annoying. The Flag of Zimbabwe isn't working this time! STUPID SERVERS! Also, can someone please reply!? <span style="font-family:Courier;">[[User:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:red;">'''Velo'''</span>]][[User talk:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:purple;">'''ciraptor'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Velociraptor888|<span style="color:green;">'''888'''</span>]]</span> 16:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Holy Moly, it looks like ''another'' flag isn't showing up! This time, we have Tunisia. <span style="font-family:Courier;">[[User:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:red;">'''Velo'''</span>]][[User talk:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:purple;">'''ciraptor'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Velociraptor888|<span style="color:green;">'''888'''</span>]]</span> 16:54, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Another flag's broken and it's Iceland! <span style="font-family:Courier;">[[User:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:red;">'''Velo'''</span>]][[User talk:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:purple;">'''ciraptor'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Velociraptor888|<span style="color:green;">'''888'''</span>]]</span> 17:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:We have several flag images for many countries. See for example a file search on "Flag of Ecuador" [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=1&search=intitle%3A%22Flag+of+Ecuador%22&fulltext=Search&ns6=1&title=Special%3ASearch&advanced=1&fulltext=Advanced+search] where I'm currently not seeing two old flag designs in svg format. If you report a file problem then please link the file or article where you see the problem. But these intermittent image problems usually work themselves out. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 17:15, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:Velociraptor888, making the same point in 7 posts in 30 minutes when it is clear that you know that there is a problem with the servers is not the best use of your time or the help desk.  What help can we give?  We can't fix the servers; we can tell you it's a server problem, but you know that already; we can tell you it probably won't last, because the servers get looked after properly when there are problems, but I suspect you know that's the case anyway.  SHOUTING, using bold and italics (or bold italics) and teenage comments like "Oh. My. ****ing. God." aren't going to get people to reply any faster when, frankly, there's nothing to be done and the world isn't about to end.  Calm down, please. [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 18:00, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Ec x 2. It has not been "fixed", some flags still aren't working. <span style="font-family:Courier;">[[User:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:red;">'''Velo'''</span>]][[User talk:Velociraptor888|<span style="color:purple;">'''ciraptor'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Velociraptor888|<span style="color:green;">'''888'''</span>]]</span> 19:46, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:Are you sure it's the server, but not your computer?--<span style="color:Red3; background-color:#FF7F24;font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"> [[User:GreatOrangePumpkin|♫Greatorangepumpkin♫]] </span><span style="color:Black; background-color:#A4D3EE;font-family: 'Gigi'">[[User talk:GreatOrangePumpkin|T]]</span> 19:53, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

::Others are having the same problem - see [[WP:VPT]].&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 20:04, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== Problem with rating ==

hello,

why the ratings of an WikiProject, i.e. Santana, doesn't import the ratings that I gave automatically. But if I'm deleting in "class=stub" the "stub" i.e. and save it, and than editing this page and write again "stub" in "class=" and return to [[:Category:Stub-Class Santana articles]], they display the page there! Can you help me please. Thank you.--<span style="color:Red3; background-color:#FF7F24;font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"> [[User:GreatOrangePumpkin|♫Greatorangepumpkin♫]] </span><span style="color:Black; background-color:#A4D3EE;font-family: 'Gigi'">[[User talk:GreatOrangePumpkin|T]]</span> 19:44, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:If the servers are busy, the contents of a Category page can be out of date - see [[Wikipedia:FAQ/Categories#Why_might_a_category_list_not_be_up_to_date.3F|this question from the FAQ]]. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 21:14, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

::i red this already--<span style="color:Red3; background-color:#FF7F24;font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"> [[User:GreatOrangePumpkin|♫Greatorangepumpkin♫]] </span><span style="color:Black; background-color:#A4D3EE;font-family: 'Gigi'">[[User talk:GreatOrangePumpkin|T]]</span> 21:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== Tracing my father ==

Can you tell me if Harlequins were originally a soccer football club? 
The reason I ask is that I remember my father saying he played football in England, with a team with called Harlequins, I am sure in and about the London area. This would probably be around the 1920/30`s. He played as the goalkeeper. 
If there was a Harlequin football club could you advise me who to contact?
Many thanks
Arthur McKenzie.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.161.100.122|86.161.100.122]] ([[User talk:86.161.100.122|talk]]) 20:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] Have you tried Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Reference desk|Reference Desk]]? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.<!-- Template:RD1 -->&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 20:39, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== Image problem ==
New editor here, having problems with selected images on [[Barrington, Illinois]] page.  Several images that previously worked now appear as broken links but look fine when clicked twice to view the original image.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks! [[User:Sueswim03|Sueswim03]] ([[User talk:Sueswim03|talk]]) 20:22, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:See a couple of posts above -- there is apparently a problem with the server side image scaling that produces image thumbnails. I am sure it will be fixed in due course.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 20:40, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
[[File:Rotated square.PNG|thumb|100px]]
As an example of a problem with images, see File:Rotated square.PNG [[User:Brews ohare|Brews ohare]] ([[User talk:Brews ohare|talk]]) 20:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Vandalism ==

I have tried to contact you three times now, and told each time, no vandalism has occurred.

Your report vandalism page is so obscure and nearly impossible to find.

this is the person and alterations I am reporting

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:Two points - first, calling your fellow contributors "idiots" is not going to improve your chances of being helped; second, formatting your question so that it is intelligible will help - I have tried to reformat it for you, but it is still unclear whose edits or which article(s) you are referring to.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 21:25, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
::Appears to be [[Special:Contributions/DARTH_SIDIOUS_2]]. — [[User:Andrwsc|Andrwsc]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Andrwsc|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Andrwsc|contribs]]) 21:29, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Vandalism report page is [[WP:AIV|here]]. [[User:WikiCopter|WikiCopter]] ([[User talk:WikiCopter|radio]] • [[Special:Contributions/WikiCopter|sorties]] • [[commons:User:WikiCopter|images]] • [[User:AirplanePro|lost]] • [[WP:CVU|defense]] • [[WP:ONAU|attack]]) 21:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
::::But you will have to link to specific [[Help:Diff|diffs]]. I examined a bunch of the edits you posted here and saw no signs of vandalism by the editor; only signs of reverting vandalism by others. If you know almost nothing about a site and everybody experienced there says you are wrong then consider the possibility that they are not all idiots. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:44, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
:This post is apparently by the same person with a dynamic IP [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADARTH_SIDIOUS_2&action=historysubmit&diff=394839447&oldid=394839213 here] (based on range and recentness), who is throwing a tantrum because of Darth's reversions of sterling contributions [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Piracy_in_the_Caribbean&diff=prev&oldid=394846820 like this] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Computer-aided_design&diff=prev&oldid=394838903 this].--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 22:46, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
::The IP might simply be misunderstanding the diff view.  I remember finding it confusing when I started editing.  In the diff view illustrated at [[Help:Diff]], Angela is the person who changed the text from what's depicted on the left into what's depicted on the right.  [[User:Adrian J. Hunter|Adrian&nbsp;'''J.'''&nbsp;Hunter]]<sup>([[User talk:Adrian J. Hunter|talk]]•[[Special:contributions/Adrian J. Hunter|contribs]])</sup> 02:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

:I was reverting vandalism, and I reverted those edits linked by Fuhghettaboutit, because they looked like vandalism. When starting this section, you said that you have tried to contact me three times. But somehow I haven't recieved a single message from you, if you don't count the personal attack on my talk page. If you ''had'' contacted me and corrected me that you weren't doing vandalism, I would have reverted my own edits and tried to settle things. But you didn't. Anyway, I'm sorry if I have wronged you. But everyone does mistakes and so do I, but when I do so, you should contact me calmly and explain the situation instead of personal attacks. '''''[[User:DARTH SIDIOUS 2|DARTH SIDIOUS 2]]''''' <sup>([[User talk:DARTH SIDIOUS 2|Contact]])</sup> 14:52, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== Article Activation ==

I created a new article 3 days ago, and can't find info on when or how the article will become active.  I can access the article from the  "My talk" folder.  How and when will the article become active?

Thanks!
[[User:Restfest|Restfest]] ([[User talk:Restfest|talk]]) 22:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:Articles aren't "activated".  The article that you wrote on your talk page must be moved to its new location.  I can do this for you.  I will also be editing it a bit since some of the sources that you use aren't sufficient.   <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== How to mark an article as needing examples or sample code? ==

The is a {{tl|Reqscreenshot}} template for marking an article as requiring a sample screen shot, but I haven't found anything similar for requesting, e.g., examples, sample code. Are there templates for such purposes? [[User:Chatul|Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul]] ([[User talk:Chatul|talk]]) 23:05, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

:If there is such a template, it should probably show up in one of these places:
:* [[:Category:Request templates]] (nothing obvious jumps right out from the template names, but I did not look at every template's page)
:* {{google custom|en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:|requested|Search Wikipedia's Template: namespace for "requested"}}
:* [[Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Req]]
:I'm surprised I don't see an obvious template for general requests, i.e. a template that accepts an input field for an editor to specify a request that no other request template covers. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 07:38, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
::There is an inline {{Tl|Examples}} template. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 07:40, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm looking for something that boxes the output, similar to {{tl|Reqscreenshot}} but with parameterized text, that I can use in place of the inappropriate {{tl|Reqscreenshot}} template in [[Talk:TSS/360]]. [[User:Chatul|Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul]] ([[User talk:Chatul|talk]]) 18:57, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== A Help desk entry that had no heading ==

whostated duke university  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.18.96.129|68.18.96.129]] ([[User talk:68.18.96.129|talk]]) 23:34, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:If you are asking who started [[Duke University]], see the second sentence of that article. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 07:38, 5 November 2010 (UTC)